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July 3, 2025 89 mins

I sat down with Jeanne Lim, co-founder and CEO of beingAI, to explore the future of human-AI relationships. Jeanne traces her journey from launching Sophia the Robot at Hanson Robotics to creating AI beings designed to engage in deep, Socratic dialogue rather than simply serve as obedient productivity assistants. We discuss her beliefs about consciousness, free will, wisdom, and spirituality, and how these ideas will shape the development of AI.

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Learn more about Sophia the Robot: https://www.hansonrobotics.com/sophia/

Learn more about beingAI: https://beingai.com/about/

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Outline:

[0:00] What is an “AI being”?

[7:01] Creating “Sophia” at Hanson Robotics

[15:47] Neural nets and large language models

[20:17] Designing AI psychology

[26:59] Who’s getting replaced by AI?

[36:41] Critical thinking, wisdom, and consciousness

[46:33] Free will vs determinism

[52:02] Oneness, individuality, and diversity

[55:20] Is AI just a consensus machine?

[1:01:34] Can AI act as individuals?

[1:06:49] Virtual worlds may be the key to AGI

[1:14:13] Reasons for optimism about AI

[1:21:48] Can we avoid centralization of AI?

[1:25:40] Advice for young people facing an AI future

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Watch the video version on YouTube: https://youtu.be/zLvwLPe_dvs

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