April 30, 2026 • 47 mins
Like the Foo Fighters Taylor Hawkins’ death, the details around the Doors Jim Morrison’s death are mysterious. Was a debonair jetset Count responsible for the singer’s death along with the death of Janis Joplin and possibly others? We get into this incredible story along with your voicemails, text, dms and more in this bonus episode.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hey, discos, need a little more Disgraceland in your life,
just to touch to get you through. Yeah me too.
This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome
to Disgraceland, the after Party. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode,
(00:31):
a little thing we like to call the after party.
This is the show after the show, the party after
the party, the bridge to get from one full episode
of Disgraceland to the other. The backyard, to dig into
the dirt, our mission to uncover the truth, to confront
the myth, to reclaim the story. On this bonus episode
was a mysterious count responsible for the deaths of Jim
Morrison and Janis Joplin. Who's Gerdo? And the Mary Tyler
(00:53):
Moore Show, What New Song recommendations and more old song
Italian Disco Don't Blame Me? Plus your voicemails, text emails,
calm dms, and as always a whole lot of Rosie.
This is the podcast for the musically obsessed, the outsiders,
the independent thinkers who know that the best history is
the history that gets buried. Disgraceland is where I tell
the stories they didn't want told, the kind you'll end
up telling someone else. All right, this goes. Let's get
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into it, all right, disc goes. Listen, my hair is
on fire. This morning, as I'm putting together this after
party bonus episode for you, I woke up thinking about
Taylor Hawkins and the fact that we still don't have
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an official cause of death for the iconic drummer, as
discussed in our recent episode on the Foo Fighters. And
so I made myself an espresso, I popped on my
noise canceling headphones, crawled back into bed with my laptop though,
and I googled famous rock stars with unknown causes of death,
and surprise, there are literally none, zilch, not a zero.
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But I don't want to beat a dead horse. I
want to beat an entirely different horse, actually horse as
an h as an heroin. So somehow that Google search
that led me into this Jim Morrison wormhole. Now I know,
well trodden territory over here for us at disgrace in
a new horse on a beaten path, so to speak.
But really what I found is fascinating. I think I
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knew I think I knew this. I think I knew
that there was never an autopsy for Jim Morrison. And
I'm pretty sure, I knew that it was close casket,
and that the burial happened super quick after Jim died,
and that his family had little to do with the
final arrangements. And none of these facts are all that
revelatory or shocking on their own, and they're all used
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as fodder for the conspiracy theorists who claimed that Jim
Morrison faked his own death, that the heroin overdose never happened,
and that Jim you pretended to off himself so that
he could or pretended to die, I should say, so
that he could live in peace. He's outside of the
glare of fame and retire and live the quiet life
of a poet in the French countryside or whatever, and
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no longer have to live the loud, drunk, drug addicted
rock star life that he was living. But here's the thing,
I didn't really realize until now, Or maybe I did
and I just forgot, or I just let this fact
exist in plain sight and I ignored it, or maybe
I just bought the line of bullshit that had been
fed to me, to all of us anyways, until now,
that Jim Morrison died from a heroin overdose. Because here's
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the thing. Jim Morrison didn't use heroin, or at least
many of his friends were counted over the years about
how Jim hated the drug and that he actively spoke
out against using heroin in the company of his friends,
and that he hated the fact that his girlfriend Pamela
Corson aka Pamela Morrison she wasn't really his wife common
law wife somehow, sometimes I went by Pamela Corson, sometimes
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by Pamela Morrison. I'll probably probably refer to her as
both in the course of this episode. Anyhow, he hated
that his girlfriend pam actively used heroin and that this
was a subject her heroin use was a subject, a
common subject of disagreement between the two between the couple.
This is pretty interesting. So Jim Morrison supposedly dies of
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a heroin overdose, but he didn't use heroin. Obviously, this
doesn't prove anything. Doesn't prove that Jim Morrison, I guess,
didn't die from heroin, they didn't take heroin, that they
didn't die into Paris bathtub. Jim Morrison could of course
just tried heroin and died. Of course, his official cause
of death heart failure. The sort of understood to be
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cause of death for Jim Morrison heroin overdose, but for
a guy who didn't use heroin anyhow, following this line
of thinking, following this little bit of research I was
doing this morning, if he were to do this, it
would inevitably bring you to a fascinating character from the
late nineteen sixties and early seventies jet set, a friend
not of Morrison's, but of his girlfriend Pam's, and also
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a friend of Graham Parsons and a friend of Janis Joplin,
Keith Richards and Marianne Faithful and Miss Mercy from the GTOs,
and a whole lot of other famous rock stars who
regularly used heroin. This guy was their buddy, their pal,
their friend, and some of these folks died from heroin.
That friend was a French aristocrat, an actual count, a
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handsome jet setting playboy in his early twenties named damn It, Matt,
I lost your text messages. Okay, this guy's name. I
texted Matt this morning at like seven thirty in the morning.
Because Matt, Matt's French, or at least understands French better
than I do. To get a correct pronunciation, I want
to butcher it here and then Matt, you can you
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can correct me. I'm only going to say his name
once or twice here, Count Jean des bruteul bruteul Okay,
the Count, all right, listen, I've read about the Count before.
I nearly forgot about the Count though. Okay, the Count
came up in research for our Jim Morrison season of
The twenty seven Club that we that we produced a
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couple of years back, and I made a mental note
to do more research on the Count eventually, which I
never did until now by accident. Now, the Count, the
Count here is shadowy. The Count is glamorous. The Count
is like Jim and Janie and Jim's girlfriend Pam dead.
The Count was also Jim's girlfriend's boyfriend. And the Count
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was the supplier of high grade heroin to the stars
in the sixties and the seventies. And the Count may
have not only inadvertently killed Jim Morrison, but also Janis
Joplin as well. So check this out. The Count was
a good looking, rich aristocrat in his early twenties. His
family had a literal fortune. His father's businesses were located
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in Africa, so the young Count had diplomatic connections in Morocco.
Morocco in the nineteen sixties was a hotbed of drug trafficking,
specifically the trafficking of hashish and heroin, to drugs that
many many rock stars were hyper fixated on in the
late nineteen sixties and early nineteen seventies. Now not only
was the Count tied into diplomats and drug traffickers in Morocco,
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he was also, as part of the jet set, tied
into many individuals from the Paris Again he was French
and London. Again, he was a count high societies. Now
in nineteen sixty seven, the Count enrolled at UCLA, all
right in California, in Los Angeles, Okay, But UCLA did
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not have access to good drugs at the time, so
the Count fixed that he started moving pounds of hashish
through the Moroccan consulate into Los Angeles to his campus apartment. Now,
the hash and apparently the Count's good looks and money
attracted young women. One of them was a girl named
Pamela Corson. A woman named Pamela Corson, and the two
began seeing each other. And even though pam was seeing
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the new singer for the Doors, one of the hottest
bands at the time, his name being, of course, Jim Morrison.
Now Jim hated the Count, and Jim he hated the
Count's heroin. But Pam she dug the Count, and you know,
to be honest, she liked this heroin too. Jim got
drunk and yelled, Pam got high and took off with
the Count Amrrakesh to Europe to hang out with Brian
Jones and Jimmy Hendricks. Pam and the Count would eventually
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end up back in Los Angeles, and Pam would end
up back with Jim. But the Count kept slinging his
heroin the whole time, and in the fall of nineteen seventy,
the Count had a particularly strong batch of heroin. He
hooked up his friend Janis Joplin. He also hooked up
a musician named Mercy Fontino. I'm probably pronouncing that incorrectly.
She goes by Miss Mercy. She was from the GTOs, Yes,
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Frank Zappa's GTOs. Okay. Miss Mercy felt herself slipping into
a drug coma when she used the Count's heroin, and
somehow she pulled herself out of it and survived this
bad batch. Now, this survival of the Count's bad batch
of Heroin happened on the exact same day that Janis
Joplin did. Not so the Count's bad batch. Okay, On
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that day, October fourth, nineteen seventy, the Count hooked up
Janis Chropplin with Heroin, just like he did Miss Mercy
from the GTOs. Miss Mercy survived. Janis Joplin died on
October fourth, nineteen seventy. Miss Mercy lived and she gave
the rest of her batch of Heroin to her friend
Graham Parsons. Somehow Graham survived too, until he didn't in
overdosed and died later in nineteen seventy three. But back
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to that weekend in nineteen seventy, the weekend that Janis
Joplin died. Over that weekend, nine other people who weren't
rock stars also died in the Los Angeles area from
heroin overdoses. Jimmy Hendricks had already died that year. Now
Janis Joplin was gone, and Jim Morrison was aware of
all of it. Okay. He was nursing his beer at
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Bernie's Beanery in Hollywood, and he told his friends that
they were drinking with Number three. Jim Morrison didn't know it,
but his joke was dead on. Jim had one more
album to deliver to the record label. The album was
Once that album was done, Jim split to Paris to
meet Pam, who was already there hanging out with you
guessed it, the Count. Pam was in bad shape. She
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and the Count were consumed with heroin. They were sunk
deep into the Paris underground with a whole assortment of
low life, high class junkies and deadbeats. Paris was drowning
in that French connection, intensely pure heroin, the same heroin
William Freakin would put at the center of his incredible
film The French Connection. This was the heroin that the
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Count was dealing, and now the Count was counting Rolling
Stones as his customers, namely Grand Parsons's buddy Keith Richards.
Those two were also in France at the time at Nelcott,
while Keith was hiding out from British tax collectors and
making the Stones heroin induced masterpiece exile on Main Street.
Through his connections with the Rolling Stones, the Count started
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seeing Mary Anne Faithful and the two wound up in
Paris in July nineteen seventy one where the Count went
to work slinging that friend connection heroin again in France
at the time in nineteen seventy one, You've got the Count,
Marianne Faithful, Pamela Corson, Jim Morrison, Keith Richards, Grand Parsons,
and the French connection. Now, on the night of July third,
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mary Anne Faithful says that she was with the Count
in bed and they got a call in the middle
of the night from Pamela Corson again, Jim Morrison's girlfriend,
who at that moment was freaked out. Pamela absolutely needed
to see the Count, Okay. Now, Maryann Faithful, she was
stoked at this. She was psyched because she wanted to
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meet the singer of the Doors. But the Count said
that that wasn't gonna happen and he split to go
rescue pam and he left mary Anne behind because Jim
Morrison was dead from heroin. The Count's heroin, according to
Marianne Faithful, anyways, from heroin that was most definitely yes,
the Count's. But here's the thing. Jim Morrison didn't use
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heroin right, right, but he did use cocaine and the
French connection. Heroin was also called cotton candy because of
its light color a lot of heroin depending on how
it's cut, how its process is brown. The French connection
stuff was like a pinkish white. Jim Morrison, according to
those in the know, mistook his girlfriend's heroin for cocaine
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and snorted too much of the incredibly pure drug and died.
Jim Morrison's girlfriend, who was also the girlfriend of the
most infamous heroin dealer in the music industry, who himself
the Count, died less than a year later of an overdose.
Maybe some suspect the Count did himself in over his guilt,
other suspect murder. We don't know. I'm looking to find
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out sooner or later, though I'm telling you right now. Anyways,
back to our story. Pamela Morrison. She overdosed and died
a couple of years later, a couple of years after
the Count. And nearly everyone connected to this dude, everyone,
nearly everyone connected to the fucking Count guy, Pamela Morrison,
Janis Joplin, Some say Jimmy HENDRICKX, Jim Morrison, Graham Parsons
dead dead dead dead dead Mary unfaithful. She survived, and
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she flat out accused her ex the Count of killing
Jim Morrison. The details around Jim Morrison's cause of death
are hazy, just like they are for Taylor Hawkins's death.
Completely different context, of course, but still you can see
some sort of rock and roll historical parallel here. We
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don't know, we don't know how Taylor died, and I
don't think we know how Jim died. Really. Officially he
died of heart failure, unofficially of a heroin overdose. But again,
there was no autopsy. Did I say that earlier? I
probably should have. There is no autopsy, and there was
no history of Jim using heroin. There was, in fact,
a history of Jim hating heroin. The story this story,
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not just the story of Jim Morrison's death, but the
story of the Count. It is fascinating and it is
coming in a full episode of the Disgrace m podcast soon,
probably in a Doors episode. I did one sat satirical
episode on Jim Morrison. I'm gonna do a Doors episode,
and this is gonna be my angle, and this is
gonna be most of the story, to be perfectly honest,
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because this is just the surface and most of what
I just told you, I researched this morning. By researched,
I mean I read one People Magazine article. Incredibly, this
is all everything I just gave you is from a
People magazine article. Pretty much, not everything, but a good
portion of it. There's but there's a ton more out there,
and there's a lot more research I'm gonna do, and
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I'm gonna put together an incredible story for you guys
in a full episode of Disgrace Slam that'll be coming
in a couple months. I guess it'll be a Doors episode,
all right. But before that, we're gonna dive a little
bit deeper into the count and more specifically into the
shady details behind Jim Morrison's death and the claims that
he wasn't a heroin user. In today's exclusive episode of
the After Party. Go to disgracelampod dot com. Sign up
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exclusive and ad free content just like this US on
a weekly basis. All right, this week in the feed,
as we've been discussing our new episode on the Foo
Fighters now coming up right after this ONUS episode here
right after this in the rewind slot on Sunday, our
episode on b York and the dranged psychopath who wanted
(15:16):
her dead, who attempted to murder the Icelandic princess, who
set off an international scramble by the FBI in New
Scotland yard to save Byorke's life. You don't want to
miss this episode. And then next week on Tuesday, Tuesday
May fifth, we're releasing a new episode on Ian Watkins
for Lost Profits. And when you're listening to that episode,
(15:39):
be thinking about what story from music history has upset
you the most, because this might be it. This might
be the most upsetting story from any rock star we've covered.
This Ian Walkins story is so damn upsetting, not only
because of the horrendous crimes that this lost prophit singer
(15:59):
committed by also because some of these crimes could have
been prevented. So how upset were you when you learned
about the Ian Watkins crimes? But you know it can
be anything. What's the most angered you've ever been, most
angry you've ever been from news that you heard from
music history? Six one seven nine oh six six six
(16:19):
three eight voicemail texts let me know at disgrace lampod
on the Socialist disgrace lampod at gmail dot com. All right, guys,
I want to talk to y'all. I want to hear
your thoughts on Taylor Hawkins and the Foo Fighters and
everything else that we got going on to Disgraceland. Unlikely
cover songs, more music, memoirs, whatever, new songs, old songs.
We're digging into all of it and more with your voicemails, texts, emails,
(16:40):
dms and more coming up right after this. All right,
(17:02):
me and Debbie Harry, we have escaped Ted Bundy'svolkswagen and
we are in the phone booth. It's the one across
the hall. Hanging on the telephone six one seven nine
oh six six six three eight. Beth in the six
four six tell us about one of the Taylor Swift
creeps that you got living in your hometown.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Hey, this is Beth from the six six to two,
originally from the six four to six calling about a
few things. One the scandalous DJ from your Taylor Swift
episode lives in Mississippi and works in the supermarket after
having a failed attempt being a morning DJ show of
(17:38):
conservative talk morning show. He's got a baby now and
is just living a very quiet life.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Also on the.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
New York nightlife scene back in the nineties. Bear Jones
used to be this club promoter and you would call
his everybody got a card and you would call the number,
which was a voicemail or an answering machine, and they
would let you know where the party was that night.
And he went on Bear Jones, I think he died
in two thousand and eight, but he went on, I think,
(18:08):
to be a gossip columnist for the Daily News, and
was on the circuit, the media circuit, in the night
life circuit through at least two thousand and six and
more stuff on in Access. I just can't get enough
of it. And thanks for all the good work you
guys do, and stay punk, love it bye all.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Right, Beth, thank you very much, love love the Taylor
Swift recon there, thank you. And in excess. As for
in Excess, we got a two parter a on in Access,
two parts in the archive, parts one and two. Bear
Jones that phone that phone thing you just shared. I
didn't know about this at all, and I was hanging
out in New York in the nineties, assuming nineties is
when you're talking about it. I don't know if you
(18:48):
said that or not, but this reminds me of this
whole Black Keys thing they got going on now. The
record hangs, and I'm not sure how people are getting
invited to that, but this sounds like a good way
to do it. Anyways, I would like to get invited
to one of these, So let me know if anyone
has some Black Keys hook ups, let me know. All right,
let's check out D in Dallas.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
Hey, Jake, it's d from Dallas again, and I just
heard you a little blurb at the closing of your
most recent podcasts that I listened to on Disgraced Land,
and you questioned whether or not Billy Gordon had actually
actually seen a shapegister. I one hundred percent agree, and
(19:33):
I have a theory on exactly who it is. I
believe that he actually saw a shapegister, and it's somebody
that we all know. My gift is that it's Maynard.
Last name not required. You know how I'm talking about.
(19:53):
And right now you're thinking to yourself, you know what,
if there are aliens, and Maynard probably is one of them,
along with Trent, probably also an alien to neither one
of them. Age I don't understand, except that like they're
(20:16):
not from this world. None of Tool's music makes sense.
You could show someone on paper and like, hey, this
is it would say no, that that does not work.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
But you know why, let's alien d uh shape shifting
into Maynard from Tool, Right, that's what you're saying. And uh,
Trent Reznor as well, I don't know. I don't know
about that. I need more of this Maynard from Tool,
(20:48):
Trent Reznor Alien theory? Do you hit us back? All right,
let's check out. Let's see JC in the six five
to one.
Speaker 5 (20:58):
Hey, Jake j C in the six five I have
won Minneapolis Saint Paul Lucky Longtime Disco was lucky enough
to find you guys. In January twenty nineteen, I tell
everybody I know about your shows.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
You asked about a stranger peculiar.
Speaker 5 (21:12):
Unlikely cover song. I'm gonna nominate Whosker Dude doing Love
is all around the theme of the Mary Tyler Moore Show.
They even did it on the Today Show. Oh there's
a film, you can go find it. Hey. Lastly, I'm
been a big fan of lot of your shows. You
turned me on. We've done some discussion about Manson and
chaos and all that. I think you should package up
(21:34):
all your Manson episodes that we you do with Beetles, Stones, etc.
I think that'd work out great man, Hey, thanks for everything.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Who's Kerdoo and Mary Tyler Moore? I didn't know this.
I did not know. This is Mary Tyler Moore set
in Minneapolis. That would make sense. That would make sense.
I like your idea about packaging all of our Manson
episodes together. For those who don't know, we had this
long history with the Helter Skelter story here Gray Santa.
All the new listeners started way back and I don't
(22:03):
know season two or three or something like that, maybe four,
when we did the Beach Boys episodes, which is the
traditional Helter Skelter story that you may have probably heard.
It's one of the biggest true crime books of all time,
and the connection to the Beach Boys Dennis Wilson gave
us our in later. A couple of years after that,
I realized that Helter Skelter had it all wrong, and
(22:26):
therefore I had it all wrong. We released a couple
other episodes that are updates. We did a Charles Manson
episode based on the music that he made and his
life and how it related to the killings, and we
did a two parter on Mama cass Elliott because she
was intimately involved with the players who get swept up
(22:47):
in and around the Helter Skelter story and what I
believe is the truth that disrupts the Helter Skelter story.
So anyways, there's about what four or five and then
if you count the Sharon Tate hollywood Land episodes we've done,
there's probably about seven Manson related episodes that we've done.
And I like JC in the sixty five ones suggestion
about packaging them all together. Maybe we'll do that, I
don't know, maybe make a nice little, uh animated book
(23:12):
or something. I don't know. All right, let's go to
the five to three.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
I don't know what you just said, but all of
a sudden, I feel nostalgia for micro machines.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Just kidding, I got all the legal stuff.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
This is actually in reference to my very first listen
of hollywood Land long time just Graceland listener. This is
my first hollywood Land listen with Sigourney Weaver and then
the after show and I just my heart fluttered when
Bob from Twin Peaks was mentioned, because he is just
(23:46):
the absolute my hands are shaking right now.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
He is so scary.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
And that scene where he's crawling over the back of
the couch these there's nothing scarier. There's no blood, gore,
tense scene in movies that are like suspend anything. Nothing
is this terrifying?
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Is that moment when.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
He's creeping over that fucking joke?
Speaker 4 (24:07):
Anyway.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
I just was really happy to hear somebody else was
traumatized by Bob as well.
Speaker 5 (24:13):
So rock rolla.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
That's what you say, right see that people be like
the five oh three. Check out Hollywood Land. Get in there,
get in there, and get after it. You will not
be disappointed. Okay, there's a whole other world of content
happening in the Hollywood Land feed right now. That is
Disgraceland adjacent. It's Hollywood and true crime. It's not music
and true crime. You're not going to be disappointed. Be
(24:37):
like the five oh three, six one seven nine oh
six six six three. You guys want to leave me
a voicemail. I want to hear about the most disturbed
news you've ever heard from music history, the most upset
that any news, or any research or any story from
the world of music has made you. Six one seven
nine h sixty sixty sixty three. I don't want to
get into that next week with you, but in the meantime,
let's do some text. Let's talk about this week's episode
(24:58):
on the Foo Fighters, This one from the seven seven eight,
who writes in, hey, just listen to the Foods Hawkins
Grol episode. I never connected the dots together about insurance battles,
but regarding the lack of an official cause of death,
this explains everything. And yeah, looking now at a whole
different wave of Gen X drummers who have quit or
taken hiatus to deal with health. Wow, mind blown. I
(25:22):
think this is my favorite episode so far, and the
first time I felt compelled to text thanks for all
you do. Thank you seven seven eight. I appreciate the
kind words, appreciate the nice message. But with the nice
you got to take the not so nice as well.
So let's go to the nine to one seven nine
one seven writes in, and here we are listen here
it goes nine one seven. You don't want to hear
about Dave Grohl's problems. I don't want to hear a
(25:44):
hypocrite who lied to everyone by putting on a persona
that is not truthful. The audacity to only apologize because
he got caught shows that he doesn't give a shit
about being faithful to his family. He only cares that
his carefully crafted image has been ousted as fake to
its core. What a great example to the already fucked
up manisphere. You are sucking his dick. This entire episode,
(26:07):
like what he did is just personal family issues. No,
it's uncovering decades of lies. He is now not only
a piece of shit rock star that sleeps around with
young women while having a family which consists of only women,
but he now depicts a guy with questionable morals willing
to lie for his own benefit if he can easily
lie about having an affair to only show remorse once
(26:28):
word got out, What else about his image is he
feeding us as a quote genuine connection with a genuine
nice guy unquote is bullshit? Just made up to sell
more records, stay relevant, make the maximum profit. It goes
against everything Kurt Cobaine and Ravana stood for a legacy
his modern day persona depends on to stay standing on
(26:49):
the shoulders of giants. Love the show by the way,
I love the way the nine to one seven ends
it there, and I love the passion. Listen, I get it,
I really truly do. I'm not sucking his dick, though.
Come on, man, that's that's a little harsh. I addressed
all the issues with Dave Grohl. I might not have
(27:09):
the same take you have. Here's the thing is thatth
and I talked about this in more detail in the
exclusive section of this after party coming up. You gotta
be an all access member for that. But for those
who aren't, I'm gonna I'll address it here too, a
little bit not and not so much detail. Honestly, when
the news of Dave Grohl's infidelity broke, I was pissed,
and my wife and I were talking about it, and
(27:32):
I was really I was really upset, much much more
upset than you would think by listening to the way
I spoke about it in the episode, and my wife
and I were talking about this and the reason this
one was so upsetting, and maybe this is this is
why the Texter is so upset, is because Dave grole.
(27:56):
At least for me, I don't want I don't want
to I don't want to presume this is why the
time was upset. I take that back, but at least
for me and for my wife and for a lot
of people I know, Dave Grohl's like one of us.
He's roughly our age, comes from the same scene that
we come from, the hardcore scene, nineties gen X, and
he's he really when he started to come out, step
(28:19):
out into the spotlight and he was doing all these
interviews and the Food Fighters first launch, he was just
ultra real, ultra charismatic in a lot of ways. I
don't mean to glorify, you know, a rock star here,
but he was. He was like the best version of us.
He was funnier than us, he was more talented than us,
he was more charismatic, you know what I'm saying, And
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he just he spoke like we did, and he seemed
to like the same things and care about the same
things that we did. And he sort of carried a
version of that of that personality, that persona with him
the entire run of the Foo Fighters. And yeah, I
know there's people who are up there it's all an act.
He's full of shit. He's never been a nice I
don't buy that. I know people who know him, know
people who who know him well, I know people who
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have have met him just you know, one offs etcetera.
And they all say the same thing, that he really
is a great guy. I've never met him, but anyways,
it just stung. It just hit. It just it hit
more than now to the caller's criticism, the texters criticism,
which is it's valid, I didn't express a lot of
the anger that I felt in the full episode. You
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might have heard it back in some of the disgrace
and after party episodes when it when this news broke,
but in the full episode this week, I did not.
I did not express my anger toward Dave in that moment.
And here's why we talk about rock stars every single
week that are that that have infidelity in their life,
(29:47):
that are shitty in relationships to their wives, and and
oftentimes we don't even mention it. And yeah, that's on me.
It's my job, I guess to bring this stuff up.
But it's so common in the music industry, cheating on
your wife, cheating on your girl. What, It's so fucking common.
It's just boring. It's like, yeah, no shit. So I
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didn't want to be entirely hypocritical about it. And even
though it upset me, I didn't want to just dive
into it. Now if Dave girl operated in a really
different way. Maybe I would have treated this differently, but
he does seem Look, he's with his wife, they're trying
to work it out, you know what I mean. And
(30:29):
I didn't get into this to be all fucking tabloidy
and sensationally and all that shit like that's not what
I do. Like it comes up, it comes up, we'll
deal with it. And this is a really interesting not interesting.
This is a really not interesting, I should say, uh
example of this, and it's it is I thought of,
you know, what would his daughter? What do his daughters
think about this? Some dude on a microphone like op
(30:49):
hining on Dave Grohl's infidelity with their mom. And it's
finally whatever, it's all out there. You can go elsewhere
to get it. I do get your criticism, but that's
just my point of you on how I treated this situation.
Take it as you will. All right, Let's go to
the nine to two on the same subject. Listen, the
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opinions from the listeners here are not necessarily my own,
and I'm not suggesting that they are, and they're solely
the opinions of the texters and the callers. Okay, let's
see here. Nine O two says, hey, love the show
bias up front. I'm a big Foos fan, But regarding
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the Rolling Stone article, the text was talking about the
Rolling Stone article that I mentioned in the episode. Unlike
a lot of fans, I didn't really find it that scandalous.
It had some interesting insight, and I've always thought it
very possible that no one was lying. I think Taylor
did vent to his friends and probably even talk to Dave,
but he and Dave were best friends. If they needed
to talk, they probably didn't have an official meeting with
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management to formally express concerns. They probably just talked, and
who knows what they did or didn't agree to. So
the timeline I think is important. Taylor collapsed on the
plane in December twenty twenty one, and it seems like
Chad and Matt that's Chad Smith from the Chili Peppers
and Matt Cameron from Pearl Jam's Soundgarden. We're saying that he,
Taylor and Dave Grohl talked after that. This is all
(32:14):
in the article, okay, and I'm just going to say
it here. Dave Grohl's management denies this, Okay, they deny
what Chad and Matt had said, all right, the caller
is saying. This caller goes on to say, at that
point in twenty twenty two, after Taylor Hawkins collapsed on
a plane in December twenty twenty one, tour dates were
already announced and tickets were sold. And Taylor was a
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consuming professional, and I don't think he would have been
down with canceling already scheduled shows. If they Taylor and
Dave agreed to something, it most likely would have gone
into effect after those existing commitments. I also think it's
possible Taylor was not aware if he had something seriously
medically wrong with him, because I do not believe that
if he said to Dave, we have so down or
I could die, the Dave would have taken that lightly.
(32:56):
Taylor could have downplayed it accidentally or on purpose, even
if he did know. I agree with you here. I'm
not saying that Dave grol knew Taylor Hawkins was in
some sort of medical decline, health decline, what have you?
And Dave was like, you must play these shows, damn you.
I don't think that's what was going on. Coler was
on to say, I'll also say the Foo Fighters had
in recent years started factoring their age into their schedule.
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They played a lot, but only went out for two
to three weeks at a time before taking a two
to four week break, and they had to stop playing
consecutive nights, which you can see if you look into
their past tour dates. Anyway, I really like your thoughts
about entering uncharted territory with rock bands, and the insurance
angle is a good one interesting episode. The band has
just started dipping their toes back into talking about difficult
subjects lately, so maybe at some point we'll learn more.
(33:41):
That's from the nine oh two. Appreciate you nine oh two.
I agree a lot. I agree with a lot of
what you're saying here, and I just want to state
that again, Taylor's depiction, as voiced in that Rolling Stone
article of the events with Dave Grohl around his workload
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with the food Fighters, as depicted in the Rolling Stone
article by Chad Smith and Mack Cameron, are adamantly denied
by food fighters and food Fighters management. So there we
go two seven zero rights And hey, Jake, this is
Kate from the two seven zero here in western Kentucky,
having worked in healthcare and varying positions from pharmacy to billing,
(34:24):
to urgent care to dispatch. I honestly think that the
combination of over exertion, perhaps not being fully transparent with
his doctor about any non prescription drug usage, self medication
with prescription medications, and probably an underlying undiagnosed genetic factor,
that that is the official cause of death for Taylor Hawkins.
It's likely listed as natural causes, maybe death by misadventure
(34:47):
with underlying causes, but it's been covered up to keep
the insurance company from refusing to pay. The insurance company
is the biggest villain in the whole story. That's who
will refuse to pay out on death if they can
find a loophole. So nothing nefarious, just an attempt to
make sure insurance actually pays. Anyway, that's my nearly four
am thought, working Overnights and Ambulance Dispatch, Rock a rolla
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Baby two seven zero. Appreciate you. You know what's up?
Six four six real quick? Hey, hope you're doing well.
I was wondering if you're interested in maybe doing a
Donnie Hathaway show six four six. We are where we were,
I should say, because we did. There's a Donnie Hathaway
episode in the archive for you guys. Thanks for your calls,
Thanks for your text six one seven nine oh six
(35:29):
six six three eight. You guys want to come at
me with this week's question of the week on the
event from music history that just pissed you off the most,
that's what we want to know. Six one seven nine
oh six six six three eight. Get at us. You
might hear yourself on next week's after party. I'll be
back right after this with your emails, DMS and some
music in perhaps the television recommendation. All right, we are back.
(36:03):
Thanks for joining us in another after party. Man, you
know we just this cool thing just happened. I'm in
the middle of recording and Chad from Canada called. People
don't usually call when I'm recording. I have a bank
of voicemails and texts that accumulate that I just go
in and I grab and I play. The phone just
(36:25):
started ringing. It's not actually a phone. I mean, it
is a phone, but it's online. I don't know how
to answer it, and I figured it out and I
just started talking to this guy, Chad, and all of
a sudden, I was recording a phone call. Our conversation.
It was all cool, it's all great, and then my
fucking pro tools just died. Chad, I was planning on
playing the whole thing. Dude, call us back. Maybe we'll
(36:49):
figure out a way to do this live. That'd be fun,
wouldn't it take the calls live. I could get into that.
I could get into that. I suppose I'd have to
tell you at what time I'm recording. I record on Wednesdays,
Eastern Standard Time, usually in the usually in the late mornings,
recording a little later today. Anyways, six one seven nine
(37:10):
oh six six six three eight, you want to leave
me a voicemallion, I want to send me a text.
We're back and I want to real quick. I want
to talk. I want to play a little new song,
old song. Okay. The new song of the week that
I'm recommending is might See You There from Weird Nightmare.
This is the Mets Dude, me Etz, That Mets Alex
Atkins again, me Etz, not the eighty six me Ets
(37:34):
who broke my heart in campine Win these days. Anyways,
I dig this tune by Weird Nightmare from the Mets
Dude again. It's called might See You There comes highly
recommended from our friend Brett from MEF and Good Music.
Brett has great taste. I listen to everything that he
sends me anyway. Might see you there by. Weird Nightmare,
modern rock pop alt, kind of Lemons, lemonhead Z, kind
(37:57):
of Blake baby Z, kind of eighties nineties Boston college
rocky is what I'm saying, and I highly recommend it.
Old song recommendation for this week. I Need You Tonight
by Punkin Machine. Okay, not in excess, Yes, punkin Machine,
p U n ki n punkin Machine. I'm back on
(38:17):
my eighties Italian disco bullshit. Here, guys find disco guitars
that sound better than the disco guitars in this track
that weren't recorded by Nile Rodgers. Okay, this shit rules
and it will improve your springtime vibes immeasurably. I Need
You Tonight by Punkin Machine. My eight year old asked,
how does he get his voice to sound like that? Dad?
(38:38):
And I wanted to say cocaine, but I didn't. But
now you know a little bit more about how awesome
this song sounds. All right, Disgray Sam pod at gmail
dot com on the email machine. This one comes from
Tyler Whitmore suggestion for rewind episodes. I like the pod
and started listening back when you did the My Favorite
Murder crossover. Glad that you landed with exactly right media.
(38:58):
I hadn't listened in a minute, as I think I
wasn't subscribed between some earlier seasons. And my suggestion is
that if you are releasing an episode or mixing in
rewind episodes per week, it might be useful to label
them as rewinds it maybe provide any updates to the
story if any exists. This is the format that My
Favorite Murder uses, and I think it's pretty nice. I
(39:19):
was slightly confused because I was listening to that Selena
episode and thought it was a new episode as it
was a recent release. But I read the description and
it says released November twenty twenty. Also in that episode
they mentioned that there was a parole hearing set for
twenty twenty five, so it would have been cool after
the episode if you gave an update. Now. I understand
(39:39):
if you don't want to copy what My Favorite Murder
is doing, or if you have your own system, but
I think other listeners would enjoy this. Thank you for
listening all right. That comes from Uh who did I
say that come from? Came from Taylor Whitmore. Taylor, I
love your suggestion. I love it so much. We're gonna
do it all right from now on, starting this Sunday,
(40:03):
there will be a parenthetical in the title of each
of the Rewind episodes that says rewind and it should
be clear to everybody that this is a previously released
piece of content. That doesn't mean you shouldn't listen to it. People, Okay,
our shit is evergreen, all right, So make sure just
because we're putting Rewind in there, you're not being like,
I don't need to listen to this and came up.
(40:23):
But no, no, I don't care if you heard that
Byork episode back when it was released. It's coming again
and you should listen to it this weekend. You're not
going to be disappointed. And Taylor, to your point on
the updates, I never thought of that, but uh yeah,
we'll figure out a way to do that. We'll figure
out a way. I'll figure out a way. I'll probably
talk to Karen and Georgia see how they do it,
(40:45):
and see how they get themselves ready for any of
the updating, and we'll incorporate that into our rewind releases
as well. Thank you for the suggestion. Julio Escovar right saying, Hey,
Jake or whoever checks the email. My name is Julio
Sesar Escovar. I'm a journalist with over twenty years of experience,
and I was the director of a rock radio station
in Colombia when Taylor Hawkins died. Plus I was at
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the festival Estero Picnic waiting for them to perform when
we all saw the announcement on the Food's Instagram account.
It all was very chaotic, with little or any information
at all, and we did a special broadcast from Estero
Picnic with some of the attendees who were at the festival.
People in Colombia love the Foo Fighters, so it is
a moment in history that we will always remember. I
(41:29):
just wanted to let you know that I agree with
everything you said in the FOOS episode on Taylor's death.
All the best, Julio c ESCOVARPS. I'm a big, big
fan of Disgraceland. Julio, thank you very much. I appreciate
the perspective from Columbia from somebody who was there when
this happened, and I know that the listeners appreciate it
as well. Disgracelampod at gmail dot com. Guys, you want
(41:50):
to get at me via email at disgracelam pod. On
the socials over on Instagram, James Buckley writes in Unexpected
Covers a most excellent push Mode narrative Jake, as far
as Unexpected Covers, Tori Amos taking on Slayer's Raining Blood
was definitely a hard hit in the left field. All
the best, James Buckley. Damn man, I've never heard that.
(42:12):
I've never heard Tori Amos doing Slayer. That's just incredible, incredible.
I was listening to Cornflake earlier other day. I think
as one of you guys recommended it. I'm not sure
or reminded me of it. I've known that song forever.
It's a great song. Love Tori Amos. All right, guys,
I'm gonna get out of here. I'm gonna go head
(42:33):
out into the exclusive part of the after party. Okay,
that's the room in the back back. You gotta know
where that part of the party is. You gotta know
how to get into it. You can go to disgrace
lampod dot com to figure that out. Gotta pay a
little bit more, but not much, and I'll be talking
to Zeth in there. Zeth, as you may or may
not know, is my partner in true crimes. He likes
to call himself. He's also not a real doctor, though
(42:55):
he's sometimes referred to as doctor Lundy. Zeth Helm's the
Hollywoodland feed for us, which if you're not subscribed, I
invite you come on in the waters. Great this is
These are Hollywood and true crime stories, just like our
music and true crime stories. We're talking Drew Barrymore this
week got our Drew Barrymore episode archive episode that's out
(43:16):
in addition to the scripted episode on Drew Barrymore. In
the Rap Party, we're talking and we hate this term
Nepo babies, but we're doing some recommendations of From my standpoint,
away was great music by and this is all kicked
off by the Drew Barrymore stuff, great music from musicians,
from the parents of famous people basically, and I had
(43:39):
a couple of good ones in there. And then Zeth
gave us some film recommendations again from quote unquote Nepple babies,
and we talk about why we hate that term. In
the Hollywood Land Rap Party, screening Room from Hollywoodland is
happening end of this week and the movie that we're
talking about is A Gun Crazy from nineteen ninety two
by Tamra Davis, who was once married to a beastie
(44:01):
boy Mike Die I believe, starring Drew Barrymore. That's what
we'll be watching this week. So if you want to
get in on the conversation with us there, check out
the screening room. Just go to Hollywood Land and subscribe
if you're not subscribed already. Anyways, more from me and
Zeth right now in the all access portion of the
Disgraced Land after Party, I'll the back in the flash.
(44:31):
All right, we are back. Thank you for joining me
in another after party episode. So many artists mentioned in
this episode from our archive. Jim Morrison got a classic
Jim Morrison episode. Check that out if you haven't heard it.
I guarantee you. If you have not heard it, you
will be surprised, very shocked by the time you get
to the end of that episode. I guarantee it. We
don't have a Janis Joplin episode, though I need to
(44:54):
fix that. Definitely have a Jimmy Hendrix and Graham Parsons
episodes Taylor Swift in Excess. It's all there. It's all there.
You'll find it. Let me know if you need help
navigating the archive. Matt'll have some episode notes for some
of these classic episodes in the show notes of this
after party for you as well. All right, let's recap
number one. This week our Foo Fighters episode is available
for you to listen to right now. Number two. We
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are rewinding with a classic episode from the Disgraceland archive
this week with our episode on B York. Number three.
Next week Ian walkins from Lost Profits and is Unspeakable
True Crimes. Number four. Zeth is giving you those Hollywood
and true crime vibes in the Hollywood Land feed. Make
sure you are subscribed. I'm gonna give you some music
Rex over there in the Hollywood Land Rap Party. Number five.
(45:38):
This film should be played loud. Our new video podcasts
I didn't even mentioned this today. My goodness got a
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to our Patreon listeners. Go to disgracelamdpod dot com or
to Patreon to sign out. Number six six one seven
nine oh six six six three eight. Your voice keeps
us digging into the dark corners of music history. So
keep calling, keep texting, with your answers to this week's question,
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the week, or with whatever else want to talk about.
Number seven, don't forget, just goes. This isn't just content.
It's a community, a community of the obsessed. No one
cares about music, books, records, and the crime and crime
that ties them all together like you do. And well
that's a disgrace, all right. On July fourth, nineteen ninety four,
Dave Girl marked his independence with a bang and released
the first Food Fighters album. Here is what America was
(46:19):
listening to on that day, according to the Billboard Charts.
Number one Waterfalls TLC last week one peak position one
weeks on chart six, number two one more Chance, stay
with the Notorious Big last week just peak position day
(46:42):
two weeks on chart, last week four, to your friend,
number three, don't take it personal chart just one of
them days, Monica last week six two peak position two,
last week's on charts twelve position and number four, Water Runs,
Dry Voice two men last week six peak position number two,
last week's twelve position, number.
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Oh right now, what's up chat? How are you man,
Hey, discos, need a little more Disgraceland in your life,
just to touch to get you through. Yeah me too.
This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome
to Disgraceland, the after Party. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode,
(00:31):
a little thing we like to call the after party.
This is the show after the show, the party after
the party, the bridge to get from one full episode
of Disgraceland to the other. The backyard, to dig into
the dirt, our mission to uncover the truth, to confront
the myth, to reclaim the story. On this bonus episode
was a mysterious count responsible for the deaths of Jim
Morrison and Janis Joplin. Who's Gerdo? And the Mary Tyler
(00:53):
Moore Show, What New Song recommendations and more old song
Italian Disco Don't Blame Me? Plus your voicemails, text emails,
calm dms, and as always a whole lot of Rosie.
This is the podcast for the musically obsessed, the outsiders,
the independent thinkers who know that the best history is
the history that gets buried. Disgraceland is where I tell
the stories they didn't want told, the kind you'll end
up telling someone else. All right, this goes. Let's get
(01:17):
into it, all right, disc goes. Listen, my hair is
on fire. This morning, as I'm putting together this after
party bonus episode for you, I woke up thinking about
Taylor Hawkins and the fact that we still don't have
(01:39):
an official cause of death for the iconic drummer, as
discussed in our recent episode on the Foo Fighters. And
so I made myself an espresso, I popped on my
noise canceling headphones, crawled back into bed with my laptop though,
and I googled famous rock stars with unknown causes of death,
and surprise, there are literally none, zilch, not a zero.
(02:02):
But I don't want to beat a dead horse. I
want to beat an entirely different horse, actually horse as
an h as an heroin. So somehow that Google search
that led me into this Jim Morrison wormhole. Now I know,
well trodden territory over here for us at disgrace in
a new horse on a beaten path, so to speak.
But really what I found is fascinating. I think I
(02:25):
knew I think I knew this. I think I knew
that there was never an autopsy for Jim Morrison. And
I'm pretty sure, I knew that it was close casket,
and that the burial happened super quick after Jim died,
and that his family had little to do with the
final arrangements. And none of these facts are all that
revelatory or shocking on their own, and they're all used
(02:45):
as fodder for the conspiracy theorists who claimed that Jim
Morrison faked his own death, that the heroin overdose never happened,
and that Jim you pretended to off himself so that
he could or pretended to die, I should say, so
that he could live in peace. He's outside of the
glare of fame and retire and live the quiet life
of a poet in the French countryside or whatever, and
(03:07):
no longer have to live the loud, drunk, drug addicted
rock star life that he was living. But here's the thing,
I didn't really realize until now, Or maybe I did
and I just forgot, or I just let this fact
exist in plain sight and I ignored it, or maybe
I just bought the line of bullshit that had been
fed to me, to all of us anyways, until now,
that Jim Morrison died from a heroin overdose. Because here's
(03:32):
the thing. Jim Morrison didn't use heroin, or at least
many of his friends were counted over the years about
how Jim hated the drug and that he actively spoke
out against using heroin in the company of his friends,
and that he hated the fact that his girlfriend Pamela
Corson aka Pamela Morrison she wasn't really his wife common
law wife somehow, sometimes I went by Pamela Corson, sometimes
(03:55):
by Pamela Morrison. I'll probably probably refer to her as
both in the course of this episode. Anyhow, he hated
that his girlfriend pam actively used heroin and that this
was a subject her heroin use was a subject, a
common subject of disagreement between the two between the couple.
This is pretty interesting. So Jim Morrison supposedly dies of
(04:19):
a heroin overdose, but he didn't use heroin. Obviously, this
doesn't prove anything. Doesn't prove that Jim Morrison, I guess,
didn't die from heroin, they didn't take heroin, that they
didn't die into Paris bathtub. Jim Morrison could of course
just tried heroin and died. Of course, his official cause
of death heart failure. The sort of understood to be
(04:40):
cause of death for Jim Morrison heroin overdose, but for
a guy who didn't use heroin anyhow, following this line
of thinking, following this little bit of research I was
doing this morning, if he were to do this, it
would inevitably bring you to a fascinating character from the
late nineteen sixties and early seventies jet set, a friend
not of Morrison's, but of his girlfriend Pam's, and also
(05:03):
a friend of Graham Parsons and a friend of Janis Joplin,
Keith Richards and Marianne Faithful and Miss Mercy from the GTOs,
and a whole lot of other famous rock stars who
regularly used heroin. This guy was their buddy, their pal,
their friend, and some of these folks died from heroin.
That friend was a French aristocrat, an actual count, a
(05:25):
handsome jet setting playboy in his early twenties named damn It, Matt,
I lost your text messages. Okay, this guy's name. I
texted Matt this morning at like seven thirty in the morning.
Because Matt, Matt's French, or at least understands French better
than I do. To get a correct pronunciation, I want
to butcher it here and then Matt, you can you
(05:46):
can correct me. I'm only going to say his name
once or twice here, Count Jean des bruteul bruteul Okay,
the Count, all right, listen, I've read about the Count before.
I nearly forgot about the Count though. Okay, the Count
came up in research for our Jim Morrison season of
The twenty seven Club that we that we produced a
(06:07):
couple of years back, and I made a mental note
to do more research on the Count eventually, which I
never did until now by accident. Now, the Count, the
Count here is shadowy. The Count is glamorous. The Count
is like Jim and Janie and Jim's girlfriend Pam dead.
The Count was also Jim's girlfriend's boyfriend. And the Count
(06:27):
was the supplier of high grade heroin to the stars
in the sixties and the seventies. And the Count may
have not only inadvertently killed Jim Morrison, but also Janis
Joplin as well. So check this out. The Count was
a good looking, rich aristocrat in his early twenties. His
family had a literal fortune. His father's businesses were located
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in Africa, so the young Count had diplomatic connections in Morocco.
Morocco in the nineteen sixties was a hotbed of drug trafficking,
specifically the trafficking of hashish and heroin, to drugs that
many many rock stars were hyper fixated on in the
late nineteen sixties and early nineteen seventies. Now not only
was the Count tied into diplomats and drug traffickers in Morocco,
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he was also, as part of the jet set, tied
into many individuals from the Paris Again he was French
and London. Again, he was a count high societies. Now
in nineteen sixty seven, the Count enrolled at UCLA, all
right in California, in Los Angeles, Okay, But UCLA did
(07:32):
not have access to good drugs at the time, so
the Count fixed that he started moving pounds of hashish
through the Moroccan consulate into Los Angeles to his campus apartment. Now,
the hash and apparently the Count's good looks and money
attracted young women. One of them was a girl named
Pamela Corson. A woman named Pamela Corson, and the two
began seeing each other. And even though pam was seeing
(07:54):
the new singer for the Doors, one of the hottest
bands at the time, his name being, of course, Jim Morrison.
Now Jim hated the Count, and Jim he hated the
Count's heroin. But Pam she dug the Count, and you know,
to be honest, she liked this heroin too. Jim got
drunk and yelled, Pam got high and took off with
the Count Amrrakesh to Europe to hang out with Brian
Jones and Jimmy Hendricks. Pam and the Count would eventually
(08:17):
end up back in Los Angeles, and Pam would end
up back with Jim. But the Count kept slinging his
heroin the whole time, and in the fall of nineteen seventy,
the Count had a particularly strong batch of heroin. He
hooked up his friend Janis Joplin. He also hooked up
a musician named Mercy Fontino. I'm probably pronouncing that incorrectly.
She goes by Miss Mercy. She was from the GTOs, Yes,
(08:38):
Frank Zappa's GTOs. Okay. Miss Mercy felt herself slipping into
a drug coma when she used the Count's heroin, and
somehow she pulled herself out of it and survived this
bad batch. Now, this survival of the Count's bad batch
of Heroin happened on the exact same day that Janis
Joplin did. Not so the Count's bad batch. Okay, On
(09:04):
that day, October fourth, nineteen seventy, the Count hooked up
Janis Chropplin with Heroin, just like he did Miss Mercy
from the GTOs. Miss Mercy survived. Janis Joplin died on
October fourth, nineteen seventy. Miss Mercy lived and she gave
the rest of her batch of Heroin to her friend
Graham Parsons. Somehow Graham survived too, until he didn't in
overdosed and died later in nineteen seventy three. But back
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to that weekend in nineteen seventy, the weekend that Janis
Joplin died. Over that weekend, nine other people who weren't
rock stars also died in the Los Angeles area from
heroin overdoses. Jimmy Hendricks had already died that year. Now
Janis Joplin was gone, and Jim Morrison was aware of
all of it. Okay. He was nursing his beer at
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Bernie's Beanery in Hollywood, and he told his friends that
they were drinking with Number three. Jim Morrison didn't know it,
but his joke was dead on. Jim had one more
album to deliver to the record label. The album was
Once that album was done, Jim split to Paris to
meet Pam, who was already there hanging out with you
guessed it, the Count. Pam was in bad shape. She
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and the Count were consumed with heroin. They were sunk
deep into the Paris underground with a whole assortment of
low life, high class junkies and deadbeats. Paris was drowning
in that French connection, intensely pure heroin, the same heroin
William Freakin would put at the center of his incredible
film The French Connection. This was the heroin that the
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Count was dealing, and now the Count was counting Rolling
Stones as his customers, namely Grand Parsons's buddy Keith Richards.
Those two were also in France at the time at Nelcott,
while Keith was hiding out from British tax collectors and
making the Stones heroin induced masterpiece exile on Main Street.
Through his connections with the Rolling Stones, the Count started
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seeing Mary Anne Faithful and the two wound up in
Paris in July nineteen seventy one where the Count went
to work slinging that friend connection heroin again in France
at the time in nineteen seventy one, You've got the Count,
Marianne Faithful, Pamela Corson, Jim Morrison, Keith Richards, Grand Parsons,
and the French connection. Now, on the night of July third,
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mary Anne Faithful says that she was with the Count
in bed and they got a call in the middle
of the night from Pamela Corson again, Jim Morrison's girlfriend,
who at that moment was freaked out. Pamela absolutely needed
to see the Count, Okay. Now, Maryann Faithful, she was
stoked at this. She was psyched because she wanted to
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meet the singer of the Doors. But the Count said
that that wasn't gonna happen and he split to go
rescue pam and he left mary Anne behind because Jim
Morrison was dead from heroin. The Count's heroin, according to
Marianne Faithful, anyways, from heroin that was most definitely yes,
the Count's. But here's the thing. Jim Morrison didn't use
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heroin right, right, but he did use cocaine and the
French connection. Heroin was also called cotton candy because of
its light color a lot of heroin depending on how
it's cut, how its process is brown. The French connection
stuff was like a pinkish white. Jim Morrison, according to
those in the know, mistook his girlfriend's heroin for cocaine
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and snorted too much of the incredibly pure drug and died.
Jim Morrison's girlfriend, who was also the girlfriend of the
most infamous heroin dealer in the music industry, who himself
the Count, died less than a year later of an overdose.
Maybe some suspect the Count did himself in over his guilt,
other suspect murder. We don't know. I'm looking to find
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out sooner or later, though I'm telling you right now. Anyways,
back to our story. Pamela Morrison. She overdosed and died
a couple of years later, a couple of years after
the Count. And nearly everyone connected to this dude, everyone,
nearly everyone connected to the fucking Count guy, Pamela Morrison,
Janis Joplin, Some say Jimmy HENDRICKX, Jim Morrison, Graham Parsons
dead dead dead dead dead Mary unfaithful. She survived, and
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she flat out accused her ex the Count of killing
Jim Morrison. The details around Jim Morrison's cause of death
are hazy, just like they are for Taylor Hawkins's death.
Completely different context, of course, but still you can see
some sort of rock and roll historical parallel here. We
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don't know, we don't know how Taylor died, and I
don't think we know how Jim died. Really. Officially he
died of heart failure, unofficially of a heroin overdose. But again,
there was no autopsy. Did I say that earlier? I
probably should have. There is no autopsy, and there was
no history of Jim using heroin. There was, in fact,
a history of Jim hating heroin. The story this story,
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not just the story of Jim Morrison's death, but the
story of the Count. It is fascinating and it is
coming in a full episode of the Disgrace m podcast soon,
probably in a Doors episode. I did one sat satirical
episode on Jim Morrison. I'm gonna do a Doors episode,
and this is gonna be my angle, and this is
gonna be most of the story, to be perfectly honest,
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because this is just the surface and most of what
I just told you, I researched this morning. By researched,
I mean I read one People Magazine article. Incredibly, this
is all everything I just gave you is from a
People magazine article. Pretty much, not everything, but a good
portion of it. There's but there's a ton more out there,
and there's a lot more research I'm gonna do, and
(14:33):
I'm gonna put together an incredible story for you guys
in a full episode of Disgrace Slam that'll be coming
in a couple months. I guess it'll be a Doors episode,
all right. But before that, we're gonna dive a little
bit deeper into the count and more specifically into the
shady details behind Jim Morrison's death and the claims that
he wasn't a heroin user. In today's exclusive episode of
the After Party. Go to disgracelampod dot com. Sign up
(14:54):
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exclusive and ad free content just like this US on
a weekly basis. All right, this week in the feed,
as we've been discussing our new episode on the Foo
Fighters now coming up right after this ONUS episode here
right after this in the rewind slot on Sunday, our
episode on b York and the dranged psychopath who wanted
(15:16):
her dead, who attempted to murder the Icelandic princess, who
set off an international scramble by the FBI in New
Scotland yard to save Byorke's life. You don't want to
miss this episode. And then next week on Tuesday, Tuesday
May fifth, we're releasing a new episode on Ian Watkins
for Lost Profits. And when you're listening to that episode,
(15:39):
be thinking about what story from music history has upset
you the most, because this might be it. This might
be the most upsetting story from any rock star we've covered.
This Ian Walkins story is so damn upsetting, not only
because of the horrendous crimes that this lost prophit singer
(15:59):
committed by also because some of these crimes could have
been prevented. So how upset were you when you learned
about the Ian Watkins crimes? But you know it can
be anything. What's the most angered you've ever been, most
angry you've ever been from news that you heard from
music history? Six one seven nine oh six six six
(16:19):
three eight voicemail texts let me know at disgrace lampod
on the Socialist disgrace lampod at gmail dot com. All right, guys,
I want to talk to y'all. I want to hear
your thoughts on Taylor Hawkins and the Foo Fighters and
everything else that we got going on to Disgraceland. Unlikely
cover songs, more music, memoirs, whatever, new songs, old songs.
We're digging into all of it and more with your voicemails, texts, emails,
(16:40):
dms and more coming up right after this. All right,
(17:02):
me and Debbie Harry, we have escaped Ted Bundy'svolkswagen and
we are in the phone booth. It's the one across
the hall. Hanging on the telephone six one seven nine
oh six six six three eight. Beth in the six
four six tell us about one of the Taylor Swift
creeps that you got living in your hometown.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Hey, this is Beth from the six six to two,
originally from the six four to six calling about a
few things. One the scandalous DJ from your Taylor Swift
episode lives in Mississippi and works in the supermarket after
having a failed attempt being a morning DJ show of
(17:38):
conservative talk morning show. He's got a baby now and
is just living a very quiet life.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Also on the.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
New York nightlife scene back in the nineties. Bear Jones
used to be this club promoter and you would call
his everybody got a card and you would call the number,
which was a voicemail or an answering machine, and they
would let you know where the party was that night.
And he went on Bear Jones, I think he died
in two thousand and eight, but he went on, I think,
(18:08):
to be a gossip columnist for the Daily News, and
was on the circuit, the media circuit, in the night
life circuit through at least two thousand and six and
more stuff on in Access. I just can't get enough
of it. And thanks for all the good work you
guys do, and stay punk, love it bye all.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Right, Beth, thank you very much, love love the Taylor
Swift recon there, thank you. And in excess. As for
in Excess, we got a two parter a on in Access,
two parts in the archive, parts one and two. Bear
Jones that phone that phone thing you just shared. I
didn't know about this at all, and I was hanging
out in New York in the nineties, assuming nineties is
when you're talking about it. I don't know if you
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said that or not, but this reminds me of this
whole Black Keys thing they got going on now. The
record hangs, and I'm not sure how people are getting
invited to that, but this sounds like a good way
to do it. Anyways, I would like to get invited
to one of these, So let me know if anyone
has some Black Keys hook ups, let me know. All right,
let's check out D in Dallas.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
Hey, Jake, it's d from Dallas again, and I just
heard you a little blurb at the closing of your
most recent podcasts that I listened to on Disgraced Land,
and you questioned whether or not Billy Gordon had actually
actually seen a shapegister. I one hundred percent agree, and
(19:33):
I have a theory on exactly who it is. I
believe that he actually saw a shapegister, and it's somebody
that we all know. My gift is that it's Maynard.
Last name not required. You know how I'm talking about.
(19:53):
And right now you're thinking to yourself, you know what,
if there are aliens, and Maynard probably is one of them,
along with Trent, probably also an alien to neither one
of them. Age I don't understand, except that like they're
(20:16):
not from this world. None of Tool's music makes sense.
You could show someone on paper and like, hey, this
is it would say no, that that does not work.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
But you know why, let's alien d uh shape shifting
into Maynard from Tool, Right, that's what you're saying. And uh,
Trent Reznor as well, I don't know. I don't know
about that. I need more of this Maynard from Tool,
(20:48):
Trent Reznor Alien theory? Do you hit us back? All right,
let's check out. Let's see JC in the six five
to one.
Speaker 5 (20:58):
Hey, Jake j C in the six five I have
won Minneapolis Saint Paul Lucky Longtime Disco was lucky enough
to find you guys. In January twenty nineteen, I tell
everybody I know about your shows.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
You asked about a stranger peculiar.
Speaker 5 (21:12):
Unlikely cover song. I'm gonna nominate Whosker Dude doing Love
is all around the theme of the Mary Tyler Moore Show.
They even did it on the Today Show. Oh there's
a film, you can go find it. Hey. Lastly, I'm
been a big fan of lot of your shows. You
turned me on. We've done some discussion about Manson and
chaos and all that. I think you should package up
(21:34):
all your Manson episodes that we you do with Beetles, Stones, etc.
I think that'd work out great man, Hey, thanks for everything.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Who's Kerdoo and Mary Tyler Moore? I didn't know this.
I did not know. This is Mary Tyler Moore set
in Minneapolis. That would make sense. That would make sense.
I like your idea about packaging all of our Manson
episodes together. For those who don't know, we had this
long history with the Helter Skelter story here Gray Santa.
All the new listeners started way back and I don't
(22:03):
know season two or three or something like that, maybe four,
when we did the Beach Boys episodes, which is the
traditional Helter Skelter story that you may have probably heard.
It's one of the biggest true crime books of all time,
and the connection to the Beach Boys Dennis Wilson gave
us our in later. A couple of years after that,
I realized that Helter Skelter had it all wrong, and
(22:26):
therefore I had it all wrong. We released a couple
other episodes that are updates. We did a Charles Manson
episode based on the music that he made and his
life and how it related to the killings, and we
did a two parter on Mama cass Elliott because she
was intimately involved with the players who get swept up
(22:47):
in and around the Helter Skelter story and what I
believe is the truth that disrupts the Helter Skelter story.
So anyways, there's about what four or five and then
if you count the Sharon Tate hollywood Land episodes we've done,
there's probably about seven Manson related episodes that we've done.
And I like JC in the sixty five ones suggestion
about packaging them all together. Maybe we'll do that, I
don't know, maybe make a nice little, uh animated book
(23:12):
or something. I don't know. All right, let's go to
the five to three.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
I don't know what you just said, but all of
a sudden, I feel nostalgia for micro machines.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Just kidding, I got all the legal stuff.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
This is actually in reference to my very first listen
of hollywood Land long time just Graceland listener. This is
my first hollywood Land listen with Sigourney Weaver and then
the after show and I just my heart fluttered when
Bob from Twin Peaks was mentioned, because he is just
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the absolute my hands are shaking right now.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
He is so scary.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
And that scene where he's crawling over the back of
the couch these there's nothing scarier. There's no blood, gore,
tense scene in movies that are like suspend anything. Nothing
is this terrifying?
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Is that moment when.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
He's creeping over that fucking joke?
Speaker 4 (24:07):
Anyway.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
I just was really happy to hear somebody else was
traumatized by Bob as well.
Speaker 5 (24:13):
So rock rolla.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
That's what you say, right see that people be like
the five oh three. Check out Hollywood Land. Get in there,
get in there, and get after it. You will not
be disappointed. Okay, there's a whole other world of content
happening in the Hollywood Land feed right now. That is
Disgraceland adjacent. It's Hollywood and true crime. It's not music
and true crime. You're not going to be disappointed. Be
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like the five oh three, six one seven nine oh
six six six three. You guys want to leave me
a voicemail. I want to hear about the most disturbed
news you've ever heard from music history, the most upset
that any news, or any research or any story from
the world of music has made you. Six one seven
nine h sixty sixty sixty three. I don't want to
get into that next week with you, but in the meantime,
let's do some text. Let's talk about this week's episode
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on the Foo Fighters, This one from the seven seven eight,
who writes in, hey, just listen to the Foods Hawkins
Grol episode. I never connected the dots together about insurance battles,
but regarding the lack of an official cause of death,
this explains everything. And yeah, looking now at a whole
different wave of Gen X drummers who have quit or
taken hiatus to deal with health. Wow, mind blown. I
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think this is my favorite episode so far, and the
first time I felt compelled to text thanks for all
you do. Thank you seven seven eight. I appreciate the
kind words, appreciate the nice message. But with the nice
you got to take the not so nice as well.
So let's go to the nine to one seven nine
one seven writes in, and here we are listen here
it goes nine one seven. You don't want to hear
about Dave Grohl's problems. I don't want to hear a
(25:44):
hypocrite who lied to everyone by putting on a persona
that is not truthful. The audacity to only apologize because
he got caught shows that he doesn't give a shit
about being faithful to his family. He only cares that
his carefully crafted image has been ousted as fake to
its core. What a great example to the already fucked
up manisphere. You are sucking his dick. This entire episode,
(26:07):
like what he did is just personal family issues. No,
it's uncovering decades of lies. He is now not only
a piece of shit rock star that sleeps around with
young women while having a family which consists of only women,
but he now depicts a guy with questionable morals willing
to lie for his own benefit if he can easily
lie about having an affair to only show remorse once
(26:28):
word got out, What else about his image is he
feeding us as a quote genuine connection with a genuine
nice guy unquote is bullshit? Just made up to sell
more records, stay relevant, make the maximum profit. It goes
against everything Kurt Cobaine and Ravana stood for a legacy
his modern day persona depends on to stay standing on
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the shoulders of giants. Love the show by the way,
I love the way the nine to one seven ends
it there, and I love the passion. Listen, I get it,
I really truly do. I'm not sucking his dick, though.
Come on, man, that's that's a little harsh. I addressed
all the issues with Dave Grohl. I might not have
(27:09):
the same take you have. Here's the thing is thatth
and I talked about this in more detail in the
exclusive section of this after party coming up. You gotta
be an all access member for that. But for those
who aren't, I'm gonna I'll address it here too, a
little bit not and not so much detail. Honestly, when
the news of Dave Grohl's infidelity broke, I was pissed,
and my wife and I were talking about it, and
(27:32):
I was really I was really upset, much much more
upset than you would think by listening to the way
I spoke about it in the episode, and my wife
and I were talking about this and the reason this
one was so upsetting, and maybe this is this is
why the Texter is so upset, is because Dave grole.
(27:56):
At least for me, I don't want I don't want
to I don't want to presume this is why the
time was upset. I take that back, but at least
for me and for my wife and for a lot
of people I know, Dave Grohl's like one of us.
He's roughly our age, comes from the same scene that
we come from, the hardcore scene, nineties gen X, and
he's he really when he started to come out, step
(28:19):
out into the spotlight and he was doing all these
interviews and the Food Fighters first launch, he was just
ultra real, ultra charismatic in a lot of ways. I
don't mean to glorify, you know, a rock star here,
but he was. He was like the best version of us.
He was funnier than us, he was more talented than us,
he was more charismatic, you know what I'm saying, And
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he just he spoke like we did, and he seemed
to like the same things and care about the same
things that we did. And he sort of carried a
version of that of that personality, that persona with him
the entire run of the Foo Fighters. And yeah, I
know there's people who are up there it's all an act.
He's full of shit. He's never been a nice I
don't buy that. I know people who know him, know
people who who know him well, I know people who
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have have met him just you know, one offs etcetera.
And they all say the same thing, that he really
is a great guy. I've never met him, but anyways,
it just stung. It just hit. It just it hit
more than now to the caller's criticism, the texters criticism,
which is it's valid, I didn't express a lot of
the anger that I felt in the full episode. You
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might have heard it back in some of the disgrace
and after party episodes when it when this news broke,
but in the full episode this week, I did not.
I did not express my anger toward Dave in that moment.
And here's why we talk about rock stars every single
week that are that that have infidelity in their life,
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that are shitty in relationships to their wives, and and
oftentimes we don't even mention it. And yeah, that's on me.
It's my job, I guess to bring this stuff up.
But it's so common in the music industry, cheating on
your wife, cheating on your girl. What, It's so fucking common.
It's just boring. It's like, yeah, no shit. So I
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didn't want to be entirely hypocritical about it. And even
though it upset me, I didn't want to just dive
into it. Now if Dave girl operated in a really
different way. Maybe I would have treated this differently, but
he does seem Look, he's with his wife, they're trying
to work it out, you know what I mean. And
(30:29):
I didn't get into this to be all fucking tabloidy
and sensationally and all that shit like that's not what
I do. Like it comes up, it comes up, we'll
deal with it. And this is a really interesting not interesting.
This is a really not interesting, I should say, uh
example of this, and it's it is I thought of,
you know, what would his daughter? What do his daughters
think about this? Some dude on a microphone like op
(30:49):
hining on Dave Grohl's infidelity with their mom. And it's
finally whatever, it's all out there. You can go elsewhere
to get it. I do get your criticism, but that's
just my point of you on how I treated this situation.
Take it as you will. All right, Let's go to
the nine to two on the same subject. Listen, the
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opinions from the listeners here are not necessarily my own,
and I'm not suggesting that they are, and they're solely
the opinions of the texters and the callers. Okay, let's
see here. Nine O two says, hey, love the show
bias up front. I'm a big Foos fan, But regarding
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the Rolling Stone article, the text was talking about the
Rolling Stone article that I mentioned in the episode. Unlike
a lot of fans, I didn't really find it that scandalous.
It had some interesting insight, and I've always thought it
very possible that no one was lying. I think Taylor
did vent to his friends and probably even talk to Dave,
but he and Dave were best friends. If they needed
to talk, they probably didn't have an official meeting with
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management to formally express concerns. They probably just talked, and
who knows what they did or didn't agree to. So
the timeline I think is important. Taylor collapsed on the
plane in December twenty twenty one, and it seems like
Chad and Matt that's Chad Smith from the Chili Peppers
and Matt Cameron from Pearl Jam's Soundgarden. We're saying that he,
Taylor and Dave Grohl talked after that. This is all
(32:14):
in the article, okay, and I'm just going to say
it here. Dave Grohl's management denies this, Okay, they deny
what Chad and Matt had said, all right, the caller
is saying. This caller goes on to say, at that
point in twenty twenty two, after Taylor Hawkins collapsed on
a plane in December twenty twenty one, tour dates were
already announced and tickets were sold. And Taylor was a
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consuming professional, and I don't think he would have been
down with canceling already scheduled shows. If they Taylor and
Dave agreed to something, it most likely would have gone
into effect after those existing commitments. I also think it's
possible Taylor was not aware if he had something seriously
medically wrong with him, because I do not believe that
if he said to Dave, we have so down or
I could die, the Dave would have taken that lightly.
(32:56):
Taylor could have downplayed it accidentally or on purpose, even
if he did know. I agree with you here. I'm
not saying that Dave grol knew Taylor Hawkins was in
some sort of medical decline, health decline, what have you?
And Dave was like, you must play these shows, damn you.
I don't think that's what was going on. Coler was
on to say, I'll also say the Foo Fighters had
in recent years started factoring their age into their schedule.
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They played a lot, but only went out for two
to three weeks at a time before taking a two
to four week break, and they had to stop playing
consecutive nights, which you can see if you look into
their past tour dates. Anyway, I really like your thoughts
about entering uncharted territory with rock bands, and the insurance
angle is a good one interesting episode. The band has
just started dipping their toes back into talking about difficult
subjects lately, so maybe at some point we'll learn more.
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That's from the nine oh two. Appreciate you nine oh two.
I agree a lot. I agree with a lot of
what you're saying here, and I just want to state
that again, Taylor's depiction, as voiced in that Rolling Stone
article of the events with Dave Grohl around his workload
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with the food Fighters, as depicted in the Rolling Stone
article by Chad Smith and Mack Cameron, are adamantly denied
by food fighters and food Fighters management. So there we
go two seven zero rights And hey, Jake, this is
Kate from the two seven zero here in western Kentucky,
having worked in healthcare and varying positions from pharmacy to billing,
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to urgent care to dispatch. I honestly think that the
combination of over exertion, perhaps not being fully transparent with
his doctor about any non prescription drug usage, self medication
with prescription medications, and probably an underlying undiagnosed genetic factor,
that that is the official cause of death for Taylor Hawkins.
It's likely listed as natural causes, maybe death by misadventure
(34:47):
with underlying causes, but it's been covered up to keep
the insurance company from refusing to pay. The insurance company
is the biggest villain in the whole story. That's who
will refuse to pay out on death if they can
find a loophole. So nothing nefarious, just an attempt to
make sure insurance actually pays. Anyway, that's my nearly four
am thought, working Overnights and Ambulance Dispatch, Rock a rolla
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Baby two seven zero. Appreciate you. You know what's up?
Six four six real quick? Hey, hope you're doing well.
I was wondering if you're interested in maybe doing a
Donnie Hathaway show six four six. We are where we were,
I should say, because we did. There's a Donnie Hathaway
episode in the archive for you guys. Thanks for your calls,
Thanks for your text six one seven nine oh six
(35:29):
six six three eight. You guys want to come at
me with this week's question of the week on the
event from music history that just pissed you off the most,
that's what we want to know. Six one seven nine
oh six six six three eight. Get at us. You
might hear yourself on next week's after party. I'll be
back right after this with your emails, DMS and some
music in perhaps the television recommendation. All right, we are back.
(36:03):
Thanks for joining us in another after party. Man, you
know we just this cool thing just happened. I'm in
the middle of recording and Chad from Canada called. People
don't usually call when I'm recording. I have a bank
of voicemails and texts that accumulate that I just go
in and I grab and I play. The phone just
(36:25):
started ringing. It's not actually a phone. I mean, it
is a phone, but it's online. I don't know how
to answer it, and I figured it out and I
just started talking to this guy, Chad, and all of
a sudden, I was recording a phone call. Our conversation.
It was all cool, it's all great, and then my
fucking pro tools just died. Chad, I was planning on
playing the whole thing. Dude, call us back. Maybe we'll
(36:49):
figure out a way to do this live. That'd be fun,
wouldn't it take the calls live. I could get into that.
I could get into that. I suppose I'd have to
tell you at what time I'm recording. I record on Wednesdays,
Eastern Standard Time, usually in the usually in the late mornings,
recording a little later today. Anyways, six one seven nine
(37:10):
oh six six six three eight, you want to leave
me a voicemallion, I want to send me a text.
We're back and I want to real quick. I want
to talk. I want to play a little new song,
old song. Okay. The new song of the week that
I'm recommending is might See You There from Weird Nightmare.
This is the Mets Dude, me Etz, That Mets Alex
Atkins again, me Etz, not the eighty six me Ets
(37:34):
who broke my heart in campine Win these days. Anyways,
I dig this tune by Weird Nightmare from the Mets
Dude again. It's called might See You There comes highly
recommended from our friend Brett from MEF and Good Music.
Brett has great taste. I listen to everything that he
sends me anyway. Might see you there by. Weird Nightmare,
modern rock pop alt, kind of Lemons, lemonhead Z, kind
(37:57):
of Blake baby Z, kind of eighties nineties Boston college
rocky is what I'm saying, and I highly recommend it.
Old song recommendation for this week. I Need You Tonight
by Punkin Machine. Okay, not in excess, Yes, punkin Machine,
p U n ki n punkin Machine. I'm back on
(38:17):
my eighties Italian disco bullshit. Here, guys find disco guitars
that sound better than the disco guitars in this track
that weren't recorded by Nile Rodgers. Okay, this shit rules
and it will improve your springtime vibes immeasurably. I Need
You Tonight by Punkin Machine. My eight year old asked,
how does he get his voice to sound like that? Dad?
(38:38):
And I wanted to say cocaine, but I didn't. But
now you know a little bit more about how awesome
this song sounds. All right, Disgray Sam pod at gmail
dot com on the email machine. This one comes from
Tyler Whitmore suggestion for rewind episodes. I like the pod
and started listening back when you did the My Favorite
Murder crossover. Glad that you landed with exactly right media.
(38:58):
I hadn't listened in a minute, as I think I
wasn't subscribed between some earlier seasons. And my suggestion is
that if you are releasing an episode or mixing in
rewind episodes per week, it might be useful to label
them as rewinds it maybe provide any updates to the
story if any exists. This is the format that My
Favorite Murder uses, and I think it's pretty nice. I
(39:19):
was slightly confused because I was listening to that Selena
episode and thought it was a new episode as it
was a recent release. But I read the description and
it says released November twenty twenty. Also in that episode
they mentioned that there was a parole hearing set for
twenty twenty five, so it would have been cool after
the episode if you gave an update. Now. I understand
(39:39):
if you don't want to copy what My Favorite Murder
is doing, or if you have your own system, but
I think other listeners would enjoy this. Thank you for
listening all right. That comes from Uh who did I
say that come from? Came from Taylor Whitmore. Taylor, I
love your suggestion. I love it so much. We're gonna
do it all right from now on, starting this Sunday,
(40:03):
there will be a parenthetical in the title of each
of the Rewind episodes that says rewind and it should
be clear to everybody that this is a previously released
piece of content. That doesn't mean you shouldn't listen to it. People, Okay,
our shit is evergreen, all right, So make sure just
because we're putting Rewind in there, you're not being like,
I don't need to listen to this and came up.
(40:23):
But no, no, I don't care if you heard that
Byork episode back when it was released. It's coming again
and you should listen to it this weekend. You're not
going to be disappointed. And Taylor, to your point on
the updates, I never thought of that, but uh yeah,
we'll figure out a way to do that. We'll figure
out a way. I'll figure out a way. I'll probably
talk to Karen and Georgia see how they do it,
(40:45):
and see how they get themselves ready for any of
the updating, and we'll incorporate that into our rewind releases
as well. Thank you for the suggestion. Julio Escovar right saying, Hey,
Jake or whoever checks the email. My name is Julio
Sesar Escovar. I'm a journalist with over twenty years of experience,
and I was the director of a rock radio station
in Colombia when Taylor Hawkins died. Plus I was at
(41:08):
the festival Estero Picnic waiting for them to perform when
we all saw the announcement on the Food's Instagram account.
It all was very chaotic, with little or any information
at all, and we did a special broadcast from Estero
Picnic with some of the attendees who were at the festival.
People in Colombia love the Foo Fighters, so it is
a moment in history that we will always remember. I
(41:29):
just wanted to let you know that I agree with
everything you said in the FOOS episode on Taylor's death.
All the best, Julio c ESCOVARPS. I'm a big, big
fan of Disgraceland. Julio, thank you very much. I appreciate
the perspective from Columbia from somebody who was there when
this happened, and I know that the listeners appreciate it
as well. Disgracelampod at gmail dot com. Guys, you want
(41:50):
to get at me via email at disgracelam pod. On
the socials over on Instagram, James Buckley writes in Unexpected
Covers a most excellent push Mode narrative Jake, as far
as Unexpected Covers, Tori Amos taking on Slayer's Raining Blood
was definitely a hard hit in the left field. All
the best, James Buckley. Damn man, I've never heard that.
(42:12):
I've never heard Tori Amos doing Slayer. That's just incredible, incredible.
I was listening to Cornflake earlier other day. I think
as one of you guys recommended it. I'm not sure
or reminded me of it. I've known that song forever.
It's a great song. Love Tori Amos. All right, guys,
I'm gonna get out of here. I'm gonna go head
(42:33):
out into the exclusive part of the after party. Okay,
that's the room in the back back. You gotta know
where that part of the party is. You gotta know
how to get into it. You can go to disgrace
lampod dot com to figure that out. Gotta pay a
little bit more, but not much, and I'll be talking
to Zeth in there. Zeth, as you may or may
not know, is my partner in true crimes. He likes
to call himself. He's also not a real doctor, though
(42:55):
he's sometimes referred to as doctor Lundy. Zeth Helm's the
Hollywoodland feed for us, which if you're not subscribed, I
invite you come on in the waters. Great this is
These are Hollywood and true crime stories, just like our
music and true crime stories. We're talking Drew Barrymore this
week got our Drew Barrymore episode archive episode that's out
(43:16):
in addition to the scripted episode on Drew Barrymore. In
the Rap Party, we're talking and we hate this term
Nepo babies, but we're doing some recommendations of From my standpoint,
away was great music by and this is all kicked
off by the Drew Barrymore stuff, great music from musicians,
from the parents of famous people basically, and I had
(43:39):
a couple of good ones in there. And then Zeth
gave us some film recommendations again from quote unquote Nepple babies,
and we talk about why we hate that term. In
the Hollywood Land Rap Party, screening Room from Hollywoodland is
happening end of this week and the movie that we're
talking about is A Gun Crazy from nineteen ninety two
by Tamra Davis, who was once married to a beastie
(44:01):
boy Mike Die I believe, starring Drew Barrymore. That's what
we'll be watching this week. So if you want to
get in on the conversation with us there, check out
the screening room. Just go to Hollywood Land and subscribe
if you're not subscribed already. Anyways, more from me and
Zeth right now in the all access portion of the
Disgraced Land after Party, I'll the back in the flash.
(44:31):
All right, we are back. Thank you for joining me
in another after party episode. So many artists mentioned in
this episode from our archive. Jim Morrison got a classic
Jim Morrison episode. Check that out if you haven't heard it.
I guarantee you. If you have not heard it, you
will be surprised, very shocked by the time you get
to the end of that episode. I guarantee it. We
don't have a Janis Joplin episode, though I need to
(44:54):
fix that. Definitely have a Jimmy Hendrix and Graham Parsons
episodes Taylor Swift in Excess. It's all there. It's all there.
You'll find it. Let me know if you need help
navigating the archive. Matt'll have some episode notes for some
of these classic episodes in the show notes of this
after party for you as well. All right, let's recap
number one. This week our Foo Fighters episode is available
for you to listen to right now. Number two. We
(45:15):
are rewinding with a classic episode from the Disgraceland archive
this week with our episode on B York. Number three.
Next week Ian walkins from Lost Profits and is Unspeakable
True Crimes. Number four. Zeth is giving you those Hollywood
and true crime vibes in the Hollywood Land feed. Make
sure you are subscribed. I'm gonna give you some music
Rex over there in the Hollywood Land Rap Party. Number five.
(45:38):
This film should be played loud. Our new video podcasts
I didn't even mentioned this today. My goodness got a
brand new one for you on high fidelity that's available
to our Patreon listeners. Go to disgracelamdpod dot com or
to Patreon to sign out. Number six six one seven
nine oh six six six three eight. Your voice keeps
us digging into the dark corners of music history. So
keep calling, keep texting, with your answers to this week's question,
(45:58):
the week, or with whatever else want to talk about.
Number seven, don't forget, just goes. This isn't just content.
It's a community, a community of the obsessed. No one
cares about music, books, records, and the crime and crime
that ties them all together like you do. And well
that's a disgrace, all right. On July fourth, nineteen ninety four,
Dave Girl marked his independence with a bang and released
the first Food Fighters album. Here is what America was
(46:19):
listening to on that day, according to the Billboard Charts.
Number one Waterfalls TLC last week one peak position one
weeks on chart six, number two one more Chance, stay
with the Notorious Big last week just peak position day
(46:42):
two weeks on chart, last week four, to your friend,
number three, don't take it personal chart just one of
them days, Monica last week six two peak position two,
last week's on charts twelve position and number four, Water Runs,
Dry Voice two men last week six peak position number two,
last week's twelve position, number.
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Five, to.
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Quit talking and start mixing. Hello, I was trying to
reach the disgrace.
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Then maybe I have the wrong number.
Speaker 1 (47:24):
No, no, you got him. This is Jake. Who's this
Jake Brennan.
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Wow, it's Chap home from up in By.
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Vancouver, BC.
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