Bonus Episode: Underrated and Influential Women From Music History, Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Nominees, and our Inductee Picks

Why are women criminally absent from most of Rolling Stone Magazine’s list of 100 Greatest Artists? Your voicemails and texts on who you think the most badass women from music history are. Plus, our take on which Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame nominees are getting inducted this year.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hey discos, need a little more Disgraceland in your life,
just to touch, to get you through. Yeah me too.
This is the podcast. It comes after the podcast. Welcome
to Disgraceland, the after Party. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode,

(00:30):
a little thing we like to call the after party.
This is the show after the show, the party after
the party. The bridge to get you from one full
episode of Disgraceland to the other. The backyard, to dig
into the dirt, our mission to uncover the truth, to
confront the myth, to reclaim the story. On this bonus episode,
we discuss criminally underrated female rock stars. Get your thoughts

(00:51):
on the most influential women from music history. Pretty you.
Next week's episode on the Libertines, Pete Daherty and the
murder he is a led by some to have been
a part of. And in the exclusive section, we dive
into this year's Rock and Roll Hall of Fame nominees
and let you know who we think is going to
be inducted. Plus we'll get into your emails, comments, dms,

(01:12):
and as always a whole lot of rosie. This is
the podcast for the musically obsessed, the outsiders, the independent thinkers,
who know that the best history is the history that
gets buried. Disgraceland is where I tell the stories they
didn't want told, the kind you'll end up telling someone else.
All Right, discos, let's get into it, okay. In this

(01:36):
week's episode of Disgraceland, we cover the incredible early career
of Chrissy Hind from The Pretenders, a woman who charged
through all of the obstacles that were set before her
and didn't stop until she got what she wanted, which
wasn't just rockstardom, it was really she wanted to be free.
She wanted freedom, She wanted freedom from her suburban surroundings,

(01:59):
want something bigger from this life, and liberation through art
through rock and roll, which I don't care what era
we are talking about. Guys, it is no easy task. Now,
if you haven't heard our full episode on Chrissy Hin,
you're about to get some spoilers here, so I encourage
you to go back just one story in the feed

(02:20):
and check that episode out. But if you have already
heard it, then you know that Chrissy Hind from the
Pretender's their singer, that she was also nearly a member
of the Clash. She was also nearly a member of
the Sex Pistols and of the Damned. This blew my mind.
Another fun fact her and Pretender's guitar player James Honeyman

(02:43):
Scott discovered the violent femmes Chrissy Hine. As we outline
in our story, overcame violent attacks in London, bullets at
Kent State, and way more to eventually create The Pretenders.
The Pretenders. The Pretenders a great rock and roll band

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with a front woman who sported one of the most badass,
indelible and identifiable images in rock history. Seriously, in the
nineteen eighties, when The Pretender started hitting the charts for real,
showing up on MTV with their early hits back on
the Chain Gang Middle of the Road, I ask you this,
in all sincerity, who was cooler than Chrissy Hine at

(03:26):
that time? Who? No one, no one, That's who. She
had those low black bangs, super dark eyeliner. She's like
a bizarro world Debbie Harry and Ohio Tom Petty by
way of London. Chrissy Hind Anyways, for the Pretenders defined
effortless cool and artistry, and in this week's full episode

(03:49):
on Chrissy, I asked the question who is the coolest,
most badass influential female musician from rock and roll history?
And this is a this is not an easy question,
super hard question. We're going to try to answer it
today with your voicemails, your text and your emails coming up.
But before that, I thought we'd look at what the

(04:09):
experts think, because guys, newsflash, the experts, they usually don't
know shit. Before we dive in, I should mention though,
that I'm putting this episode together here in Austin, Texas
at suth By Southwest, where most of the great music
I saw over this these last few nights was or
days and nights, I should say it was from women.
I saw an intimate set with Nora Jones and Annie

(04:33):
from Saint Vincent performing. They were performing together, it was amazing.
I saw a scorching set kind of by accident at
the San Jose Hotel by Saana Sana and I suffer.
I don't even like saying this, but I suffered severe fomo.
And suffering severe fomo, I should say I could have
gone to see Elenis Morrissett, and I didn't. Went back
to my hotel and then I was talking to all

(04:55):
my friends the next day who went and they were
all blown away. It was an incredible show. I've since
Rolling Stone had clips on Instagram and I fucked up.
I should have gone, should have gone to the Atlantis show,
but I did not. But anyways, all to say, this
week's question of the week is top of mind to
say the least okay anyway to who the so called

(05:19):
experts believe is the quote unquote greatest, most badass influential
female musician from rock history. Now, of course there's no
lists that indicates such, but there are many lists that
we could consult that are vaguely related to this that
we could consult for this exercise. There's lots of lists

(05:39):
ticking off the accolades of women in rock and women
from music history and their contributions to culture. But I
think it makes more sense to look at lists of
both men and women, of both women and men. For example,
Rolling Stone, they're kind of the authority. Like it or not,

(06:00):
there's no more spin. Really, Cream doesn't compete. Alternative press
is just too narrowly focused. Mojo. I didn't look at
Mojo though, but Mojo Mojo's kind of an authority as well.
But Rolling Stone's kind of the authority. Okay, so Rolling
Stone Magazine is a list of one hundred greatest artists
from rock and roll history that they put together in

(06:23):
twenty ten. Okay, there's one woman in the top ten
on this list of one hundred. There's one woman. She
comes in at number nine. Then we have to go
way down to number thirty six for the next woman
on the list, and it's Madonna. Only two more women
are in the top fifty. That's Janis Joplin at forty

(06:44):
six and Patty Smith at forty seven, which is way
too low. For Patty Smith, way too low. She should
be higher than Janis, I believe. Now. Unbelievably, Tina Turner
doesn't even make the by herself. Okay, she makes it
as a member of her abusive psychopathic husband's duo, Ike

(07:07):
and Tina Turner. And they're at number sixty one, which
is way too low both for the duo, for Ike
Turner individually and for Tina Turner individually. Eda James is
at sixty two. It feels like, you know, they kind
of bunch the women together here. They've got Jana said
forty six and Patti Smith at forty seven, and they've
got Tina Turner at sixty one and Eda James at

(07:30):
sixty two. It's almost like they get down the list
and they're like, go, shit, we forgot there. We don't
any chicks on here, man, what are we gonna do?
And then they just bunch a couple. They just bunched
a couple together, back to back anyhow. Tina Turner is
at sixty one, Eda James is at sixty two, The
Charelle's seventy six, Martha and the Vendels eighty six, Diana

(07:51):
Ross and the Supremes at eighty seven, Chrissy Hin and
the Pretenders. They don't even sniff this list. This list blows, okay.
Aretha Franklin is the artist at number nine that I
didn't mention earlier. I didn't mention the name of the artists.
She's the only woman in the top ten, and I

(08:12):
think she should be in the top ten for sure.
Top ten is tight, I gotta say here. It is
numbers eight through one, in reverse order, Little Richard, James Brown,
Jimmy Hendricks, Chuck Berry, Rolling Stones at four, Elvis Presley
at three, Bob Dylan at two, in the Beatles at one.

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We could spend all episode discussing those top three Elvis three,
Bob Dylan, two Beatles at one and what the right
configuration is. But I'm not going to do that. We're
having a different conversation right now. It's hard, though, to
argue with the list overall. The top nine okay again,
Aretha in reverse order, Aretha, Little Richard, James Brown, Jimmy

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and Chuck Berry, the Rolling Stones, Elvis, Presley, Bob Dylan,
and the Beatles. Number ten, by the way, is Ray Charles.
I actually think Ray Charles is too low. I think
he could be higher. I think Ray Charles should be
higher than Little Richard. WHOA. I'm not gonna get into why.
That's another This is I'm not going to derail this conversation.
I want to keep it focused. Okay, but Madonna the

(09:21):
next most influential female artist, Madonna way down at thirty
seven as well. That's just wrong. First of all, forget
about Madonna for a second. We don't get actually don't
forget about Madonna, because we don't get Madonna without Patty Smith.
I would say we don't even get Madonna without the
go gos hear me out. Patty Smith busted down doors

(09:44):
that we didn't even know we're there, okay, and you're
gonna hear about that in our Patty Smith episode coming
up in a couple weeks, like two weeks, I think
three weeks, three weeks April, early April. But Patti Smith
should be higher, man, way higher, like Top twenty and
the Go Gos. Now I know, the Go Gos are
basically contemporaries of Madonna. They kind of hit around the

(10:06):
same time Go Gos broke through on MTV just a
little bit earlier. But most importantly, Go Gos broke through.
They wrote their own songs. They were the first group
of female musicians to have a number one record with
songs they themselves wrote. Okay, and this is after everybody

(10:30):
told them that they couldn't do this, basically told them
they couldn't write their own songs. It's insane that they're
not on this list at all. It makes absolutely no sense,
and so does the exclusion of the Pretenders, because in
a way, Chrissy Hyde defied what rock and roll looked

(10:51):
and sounded like for a minute there in the nineteen eighties.
I mean, really, she really did. I was there, I remember, okay,
But like I said, what do the experts know typically nothing.
When Chrissy Hind, however, was inducted into the Rock and
Roll Hall of Fame with The Pretenders five years before
this Rolling Stone list came out, Okay, so look, they

(11:12):
go ahead, they make the list, Christy Hines in the
Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, and they leave her
off the list. It doesn't make any sense. I'm not
saying take off, you know, the Cherell's or Diana, but
I mean, come on, anyhow, when she's inducted in two
thousand and five, Chrissy was cool enough to recognize that

(11:35):
the Hall of Fame like this Rolling Stone list is
fucking lame and called it out as a lame example
of establishment backslapping and said that it has nothing to
do with rock and roll. And they're absolutely right. Despite
how hard they try, they will forever be the antithesis
of rock and roll. That said, if they want to
induct me as the first podcaster, I will fucking buy

(11:56):
my own my own travel fair kidding, no, not anyhow,
she was right, Patti Smith is right. Excuse me, Christy
Hein was right. Patti Smith was right too about a
lot of things. But Christy Heines, who were talking about
and she was right. And anyways, I'm looking forward to
hearing your takes, not only Christy Hine, but on our
question of the week on the greatest female musicians from

(12:18):
music history, and that's going to come up in a minute.
All right, we're going to get to that. Your voicemails,
your texts, your emails, going to hear from you guys. Now,
speaking however, of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame,
the nominees we're announced a couple of weeks ago. We
get a lot going on over here, a double Elvis sick.
You probably might not be able to tell, maybe you can,
but there's been a lot going on. And we didn't

(12:41):
even mention the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame nominations,
which we typically have some fun with. The is a
brief little conversation in the Patreon chat, but we haven't
spent much time on the subject, but we will be.
We will be spending time on it today in the
exclusive section of this after Parties, Eth and I are
going to be discussing what we think of this year's
nominees and who we think is going to get inducted.
It's it's just a wild list. It's it's it's almost

(13:05):
impossible to predict who gets in or why they're even nominated,
and we all kind of have our own ideas of
what warrants nomination, never mind an induction. Anyways, that's going
on in the exclusive section of this after party coming up.
Go to disgrace landpod dot com to sign up to
become an all access member. You want to get in
there with the other discos in the Patreon chat chop

(13:27):
it up about wild stories from music history, whatever's going
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this conversation Zeth and I are going to be having
as well as ad free content. Okay, but before before
all that, before we get into the exclusive section, and
before your voicemails and texts and emails, a quick rundown

(13:49):
of what is happening in Disgraceland this week. This week,
like I said, we've got our Chrissy Hind episode that
it's available for you, all right, We've got coming up
next right after this here bonus episode, we have our
rewind episode which we do every week, which you guys know,
dip into the archive of over two hundred and ges
I don't know sixty five episodes by now, and we

(14:11):
pull one out of a hat this week. It's Waylon Jennings.
We got Waylon Jennings, the original Outlaw Well, I don't
know about the original, but he's kind of the avatar
for Outlaw Country. Whaylon Jennings is coming up in a
rewind slot this week right after this, and then next Tuesday,
brand new episode on mister Kate Moss. That would be
Pete Doherty of the Libertines. It's hard to describe this

(14:34):
Pete Doherty story. I believe that it's one of the
most underreported stories in rock and roll, the story of
the rock star Pete Doherty and the death of the
playwright Mark Blanco, first reported as a suicide, then an accident,
and suspected by many to be a murder. Now when

(14:55):
you're listening to this episode, be thinking about how Mark
Blanco died, and let me know if you think he
died by accident as authorities claim, or if he was
murdered and by who or whom? Which is who are
home murdered? By whom? Do you believe Pete Dharty had
anything to do with his death? Let me know six

(15:17):
one seven nine oh sixty six sixty three eight. Call
me and text me with your answers. Email Disgrace Lampod
at gmail dot com and you might hear your answer
on next week's Disgraceland bonus episode. Coming up your answers
to this week's question of the week on Chrissy Hein
on which female artists are the most influential from rock

(15:38):
and music history. Coming up your answers to this week's
question of the Week on Chrissy Hine. I try to
say that, like Terry Gross, I didn't do it well. Anyways,
back in the flash, all right, we are back guys.

(16:13):
Oh man, what a couple of days. Awesome couple days.
I'll talk about it more later. I want to get
into your stuff here. I've been talking too much. Six
one seven nine six six six three eight voicemail and
text question of the week. We're trying to answer which
female artists for music history are the most badass, the
most influential, the most consequential. Let's check out this voicemail

(16:36):
from the four to one four.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
Hey, Jake, this is Amy from Milwaukee. I'm calling to
respond to who's the most badass woman in rock? That
is Nina Hagen. Nina Hagen is beyond amazing. She has
been around, she's still here, she's still performing, and she
is amazing. She's the godmother of punk rock and she

(17:00):
will be forever.

Speaker 1 (17:02):
Nice. Wait a minute, Wait a minute, Amy, Wait a minute.
I just did about a week and a half worth
of research on Patti Smith, and I was told that
Patty Smith is the Godmother of punk. I actually think
Patti Smith has a different title. We're going to get
into that in the Patty Smith episode. But I want
to know more about Nina Hoggen. I know a little
bit about her, not much, and I'm super interested to

(17:24):
know what kind of crimey, little juicy true crime details
there might be from Nina Hoggin's past that might warrant
an episode on her and a way for me to
kind of dive in and learn more about her myself
and hopefully bring her a story to all the discos.
Get at me, Amy, get back. If you don't want
to call, just send me a text. Let me know

(17:44):
what you know about Nina Hoggen. All right, six one
seven nine oh six six six three eight. The two
five one calls in with this message.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
Hi, Jake, this is Andrew from Brooklyn.

Speaker 3 (17:56):
Most badass female musician, gotta be Wendy oh Williams.

Speaker 1 (18:02):
Thank you, bye bye, no, thank you. Andrew, appreciate the call.
Wendy O. Williams. I hear you. Supremely badass. Another one
that I'm not super familiar with, and I'm excited to
start researching. We've got her on the list for an
episode coming up in a couple months, So Wendy o'
Williams will be coming your way in Disgraceland shortly. Andrew,
thank you for the call. Let's dig into the seventy four.

Speaker 3 (18:26):
Hey, Jake is Clint seventy four Western Pennsylvania in response
to your baddest ass female rock rock and roll gotta
be John Jets. He's been true to her roots from
the time she started out as a miner in the seventies.
She's been through the been through the wringer, stuck to
her attitude, stuck to her rock and roll. Gotta be

(18:47):
John jet bro All right, Hey, thanks bouchee. You do
a great job.

Speaker 1 (18:51):
Appreciate you out there. Western Pennsylvania. Can't argue with Joan
jet I hope you dug our Runaways episode. Also Clint
let me know if you've seen the Light of Day
fun fun fact. The Light of Day Jon Jet Michael J.
Fox film came out in the eighties. The first show
I ever played on tour with my band was in Ohio, Cleveland,

(19:15):
Ohio at the Euclid Tavern where they filmed Light of Day.
We drove straight from Queen's Castor and I can still suit.
All crammed into one van and it was got to say,
it was a lot of fun. There's about four people there,
but hey, we didn't care. We thought we were like
Black Flag in the eighties, out there grinding. We kind
of were in our own little way. Anyway, Shout out
to the Euclid Tavern and jone Jet Light a Day.

(19:36):
Pretty good movie. Haven't seen it since it came out.
I don't know seven eight one. Let's check out what
they get to say.

Speaker 4 (19:43):
Put up Jacobs, your boy, just checking in.

Speaker 2 (19:47):
I just wanted to call you and tell.

Speaker 4 (19:49):
You I was having a shit morning and.

Speaker 2 (19:52):
I was listening to the bonus.

Speaker 4 (19:54):
Episode What Music do Serial Killers Listen To? And the
part about John Wayne g you running out of this
clown outfit listening to Betty Hill, I mean, thank you,
thank you so much bro, like you just put a
smile on my face and beat like you better.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
I hope all is well.

Speaker 4 (20:13):
Keep up the good work and just fucking disco.

Speaker 1 (20:18):
Ish my man, love this call. I think you just
you just play the Benny Hill music and you just
you can't help but feel good. He can't help but laugh, Matt, Matt,
give us a little Benny Hill. See now we all
feel a little better, don't we. We do. It's just
it's magic. I don't know what it is. It's so dumb,

(20:40):
especially when you're thinking of John way Gacy running around
listening to listening to it and his clown get I yeah, yeah,
this is just kind of the gift that keeps on giving.
Six one seven nine oh six six six three eight guys,
voicemail and text, don't forget hit me about next week's
question of the week. We're gonna be getting into this
topic of Pete Daugherty and the murder mystery again, underreported story.

(21:02):
And I've been coming across a lot of these lately
where it's just like it's the type of story where
I don't think it's unfinished. I think there's a lot
left to be uncovered there. Super true crime uh. And
again the question is, after you hear our episode, do
you think that do you think that Mark Blanco that

(21:23):
his death at that party with Pete from the Libertines
was an accident or do you think he was murdered?
Hit me up with let me know six one seven
nine oh six six sixty three eight voicemail. You can
also text me if you want. You don't feel like
talking into the talkie talk box, you can just send
a text. Lots of people text We got the five
four to one here texting in Hey, Jake Tom from

(21:44):
the five four to one here. Excellent job on the
Chrissy Hind episode. She's one of my all time favorites
and the most badass. But there are many others. Here
are a few, Jon Jet Brody Doll from The Distillers,
Kathleen Hannah Bikini Killed, Carrie Brownstein Sleader, Kimmy, Kim Gordon's
Sonic Youth, so many more, but I'll leave it leave
it there a piece. Yeah, Kim Gordon from Sonic Youth

(22:07):
might be tops on my list. Supremely badass, cool thing
the way she's talking to Chuck d in that song
that was originally written for l Cool j but he
wouldn't do it. Just so awesome. And Carrie Brownstein. Yeah,
I was walking into a hotel one night in New
York and it was really late, and I noticed that

(22:30):
I was sort of walking in with Carry Brownstein, and
I wanted to say something, but I didn't because it
would have been fucking weird. It was like two in
the morning. But she just looks so badass. She looked
like way more rockstar than she does on Portlandia course,
but even on stage she just kind of had this
aura to her that was just super fucking cool, and

(22:52):
I was just kind of like, yeah, respect you go,
all right, I dig that. Brodie Doll Yeah, badass, super
badass and awesome by the way, too great, great, just
a fucking great musician. Love the distillers, tough to fuck with,
Kathleen Hannah. Here you got a great list. Great list.
Tom in the five four to one appreciate you nine

(23:14):
oh four write and it never receive the shirt. Listen
nine oh four that shirt's coming. I shouldn't say shirt,
it's merch. It's merch. I know I mentioned you a
couple of weeks back on the Bonus episode, but here's
the deal. I've nailed these out once a month. I
can't be going to the post office every week, or
even every two weeks. If I'm lucky, I get there
once a month. I try to get there once a
month so it will come. Some of you might be listening,

(23:36):
and I know you're like, what do you mean? Who
did you miss? What? What are you sending?

Speaker 5 (23:40):
Well?

Speaker 1 (23:40):
I send merch to people who leave reviews for Disgraceland
that I end up reading. Not everyone who leaves a review.
But if you leave a review on Apple Podcasts or
Spotify and I select it and I read it here
in the podcast and you get in touch with me,
if you text me six one seven nine oh six
six six three eight like the nine oh four here,
and I read your review, and you text me and

(24:01):
you give me like a shirt size or something, then
I will send some awesomeness your way as a little
thank you. All right now, not everybody leaves a review
gets one, but most, well not most, A lot of
people do. Your chances aren't none, is what I'm saying.
I just asked you to be patient. It's a common
speaking of reviews. We got this one on Apple podcast
from DW one five five DW DW gives five stars, says,

(24:26):
amazing shows. I love these podcasts. I've listened to every
available episode of both Disgraceland and Hollywoodland, and I just
want to say how important these shows have become to me.
I was recently interviewed for a spotlight in my company's
newsletter and social media, and I knew they were going
to ask me for podcast, movie, or music recommendations because
it was mentioned in the pre interview email, but during

(24:46):
the actual interview, podcast never came up. So when she
asked at the end if I had anything else to add,
I made a point to mention how big a fan
I am with these shows. If you're on the fence
about listening, stop reading this and just hit play. It's amazing, yo,
DW one five point five DW hit us up man
six one seven nine oh six six six three eight.
I said, man, but I don't know if you're a

(25:07):
man or a woman. Whatever you are, get at us,
and we will get you some merch for that wonderful
positive review. G Ward two on Spotify and and Nancy
Wilson of Heart are the best female rockers in my mind.
Just listen to Barracuda and then of course, Janis Joplin.
I look forward to every episode from Disgray Sand and
Hollywood Land, The After Party, et cetera. Keep them coming

(25:27):
from Jeanette, Jeanette get in Touch with a six one
seven nine oh six six six three eight. Jeanette's kind
of combining a review there with the question of the
week with her answer you can do that, can do
whatever you want. Five three zero Texan biggest badass female
another one, clearly Wendy O Williams. That's what they're saying.
Lots of people with the wen Wendy O Williams. You
guys are gonna love this episode. Nine four nine text

(25:49):
in in regards to our conversation last week about serial
killers and the music that they listened to. John Wayne
Gacy listened to Elton John. How do I know this?
I was a pen pal of his game. He had
a questionnaire he would send to people who wrote to him,
and when he sent me the questionnaire, I said I'd
complete one if he would too, And he did. One

(26:09):
of the questions on It was about music that we
both listened to and Elton John as a favorite. Oh
my wow, I'm just yo nine for nine. Thank you. Also,
I hope you're good nine four nine. Appreciate you. I
was talking to a friend the other night and I

(26:31):
decided you mentioned pen pals. I decided I'm going to
become pen pals with Tom Hanks because it's not hard.
I know how to do this. I don't know Tom Hanks,
but I know how to become a pen pal of his.
And I'm not going to give it away. But a
friend of mine does know Tom Hanks a little bit,
doesn't know him. I don't want to oversell his connection

(26:51):
to him, but he basically my friend of mine's in
a band and Tom's a fan of his band, and
they hung out about a year ago. So the whole
nature of my my pen pal correspondents that I'm gonna
take up with Tom Hanks. I'm just gonna talk shit
about my friend that he knows. And uh, I'm very

(27:12):
excited about this. Actually, I have to get a couple
of props together. I don't want to give too much away,
but I'm looking forward to this. It's gonna be fun.
Six one seven nine oh six six six three eight
at Disgrace Lampod on the socials as well, if you
want to hit me up there on Instagram or TikTok.
That's really where I'm gonna respond to you. Maybe Facebook,
probably not X. It's hard. It's hard to keep all

(27:35):
the correspondents going on all the damn channels. Man Lee
Wright saying, Hey, Jake, I hope you check out the killing.
It's intense and fantastic. Be well, Lee, were we talking
about that last week? The killing? Because the killing has
been on my mind? And I mentioned it because I
it's one of Patti Smith's favorites, and that came up
in the in the research. I think so, I think so.

(27:56):
I haven't checked it out yet, but I'm excited too.
I got to get through Love Story first. I gotta
get through John John and Carolyn Bissett got pretty rocky
this last week for Carolyn. God, this show is trash,
but I love it. I do. I just fucking love it.
But I'm excited to get into the killing. Not gonna lie.

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Karen Curtin sends us an email. She says, thanks, many,
many thanks for profiling Towns van Zant. He was a
genius and a poet for his in Our Times. If
you haven't seen it, I recommend the twenty eighteen film
Blaze directed by Ethan Hawke, based on the life of
Blaze Foley. Towns van Zant is portrayed by Charlie Sexton,
brilliant female rocker series Me and Bestie are headed to

(28:41):
London next month to see Susie Quatro, Detroit's finest. She's
gonna perform and she can still bring it. I scrolled
through back episodes of Disgraceland and didn't see an episode,
just a suggestion. She was a force of nature, a
relatively new listener bringing more converts to your podcast, Case
and SLC Case writing down here, Nina Hoggin from that

(29:04):
earlier correspondence and Susie Quatro because neither are on our list,
and I'm gonna put them on there. Guess who I
saw a couple of days ago, just you know, walking
on the street. One Charlie Sexton. Who you bring out?
Who you can imagine looks cool af still to this day.
Guys been on the scene since I don't know, he's

(29:25):
like seventeen, He's always looked badass and cool. And yeah,
I did see Blaze. It's amazing, it's incredible. It's actually
what made me want to do the Towns van z
Ant episode. We will do a Blaze FOLI episode at
some point in addition to Susie Quatro and thanks for
getting adis Karen Kurtin appreciate you. Disgrace Lampod at gmail
dot com. Guys, you want to email me like Karen,
you want to get in touch about anything, go for it.

(29:46):
I'm gonna be back in.

Speaker 6 (29:46):
The flash all right.

Speaker 1 (30:01):
I'm back back in the saddle today. I started putting
my thoughts together for this episode when I was in
Austin at south By Southwest, and I'm recording today. I'm
back home, and I had a great time. I really did.
I think I had the best time at south By
Southwest that I've had in about a decade. I've been

(30:21):
going to south By Southwest, I think since two thousand
and three, when I was in bands and playing solo
and hanging out and just but you know, at a
certain point it just got to be like work. And
I won a couple of years ago, and I really
didn't want to go, and I was trying to remember
the last time I was excited to go to south

(30:42):
By Southwest and I couldn't. I was telling my wife
before I went, I was like, you know, I'm really
excited this time, she was like, what cause it's it's
for those who haven't gone. It sounds I'm sure it
sounds great, but it is overwhelming, and it has become
like this bohemoth of an event that just you got
to kind of like it can suck you in. It's

(31:03):
like a it'll suck you in like a like a
washing machine and just spinning around and come out all
wet and twisted up. It's just it's just it can
do that to you. I guess age or something. I
know how to do it now. And I just I
saw a bunch of friends I haven't seen in a
really really long time, and I just realized how how

(31:25):
long it's been since since I got out there, and
just you know, kind of did the thing. And I
did the thing, and I had a great time reconnecting
with people I saw. I did a little performance with
some friends that you'll hear about soon. We've got a
big announcement we're gonna make in relation to that big, big, big, huge,
the huge kind of once in every couple of years
kind kind of announcement and connected, like I said, with

(31:48):
a bunch of friends, saw some good live podcasts, saw
some good live music, went to the Awards show, supported
some of my friends. It was just great. It's fun.
It's a blast travel sucked on the way back, but
I didn't care. I was watching The Big Lebowski on
the plane last night. Was supposed to watch it last week,
didn't get to it. Got to it on the plane, though,

(32:09):
and I didn't have playing tears, you know, that's the thing.
I had playing laughs though I was laughing my ass off.
Guy next to me knew why, and he understood. He understood.
I think he was like a pro ballplayer or something.
Guy was huge. He just looked like a baseball player.
I don't know what that I'm talking about, though. He
could have been anything, could have been a fireman. Anyhow.
He was telling me that his dad this is his

(32:30):
favorite movie, and I told him my son in the
theaters when it came out, And then I fell old
because I realized I probably could have been this guy's dad,
and he's a full grown man. Anyhow, the movie. I
was watching it not just because it's fantastic and I
love it. I was watching it because Zeth and I
are profiling it and this film should be played loud,
and we are going to film that tomorrow. That podcast

(32:52):
the fourth installment of our video podcast This film should
be played loud, which you can hear exclusively on the
page Treon app, where we focus on the great, tremendous
culture defining music from our favorite movies. Big Lebowski, like
I said, is our fourth installment. We've previously covered Boogie Nights,

(33:16):
Train Spotting, and Goodfellas, and if you want to watch
any of those, I gotta say, first, they're fucking hysterical. Second, uh,
super informative. You're gonna get information on this music that
you probably didn't know or have relative to the movie,
of course, but just in general. And they're just really fun.
I just I just have this such a best such

(33:38):
such the best time. I have the best time. I
have such a great time making these and putting them
together with Zeth. And really I've said this before, the
convergence of of music and movies coming together. It's it's,
you know, aside from my kids and family and all
that stuff, it might be my favorite thing on the planet.

(33:58):
It's really tremendous.

Speaker 4 (34:01):
You know.

Speaker 1 (34:01):
If God was like, hey, you can have one thing
to entertain yourself with for the rest of your life,
it can only be one thing. Is it going to
be like records. Is it gonna be books, There's gonna
be movies. It will be movies and music. I would
just be like, give me, give me movies with great soundtracks.
That's what I want. Great Neil drops. That's the thing.
And now we're bringing that thing to you. Guys. You
got to be a Patreon member though, go to disgracelaindpod

(34:23):
dot com to sign out to cop that super easy.
You're also gonna get ad free listening all kinds of stuff.
And I mentioned this, I do this with Zeth. I
do a lot with Seth. Zeth's in the exclusive section
of this podcast coming up in a minute, and Zeth
is sort of behind the he's helming nuts sort of.
He is absolutely helming the Hollywood Lamb podcast feed these days.
We have the archive episodes in there that hit once

(34:45):
a week, and then we build we build a little
theme around that for the week, and in what we're
calling the Rap Party episode with Zeth in the screening
Room episode as well, and the Rap Party talks about
the subject of that week's full episode, and the Screening
Room hits on that and previews whatever film. We're all

(35:05):
gonna be watching together that weekend, and then we're gonna
come back top of the week in the wrap party.
You know, keep it all going again, move on to
the next movie subject. That's how we do. And there's
a true crime angle to all of it. It's important,
so it makes it different. It's what makes it special.
It's what makes it Hollywood Land. It's what makes it
double Elvis. We're not just giving you the same same
rote Hollywood history that you've heard eaxillion times you can

(35:26):
get anywhere else. We're giving it to you through the
lens of true crime and the transgression of the actors, actresses, directors,
movie moguls, whomever. Okay, that's Hollywood Land. Make sure you
subscribed on Apple Podcasts, iHeartRadio, app Spotify, wherever. All right,
get that for you. It's gonna make you feel better,
trust me.

Speaker 4 (35:44):
All right.

Speaker 1 (35:44):
You know what time it is now? It is time
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(36:09):
coach my kids baseball team. I just love it. I still,
in the back of my head feel like I can play.
I can't, but I feel like I can. And I
tried joining like a men's softball team, but I didn't
really try that hard and I never kind of got
through the sign ups. And it's just why are there?
Why is there? Like Podcaster Softball League? Okay, all right,

(36:33):
why why does this exist? You know, we need to
start this and it can be a travel league. It's
not hard. We all come together. We do a little
tournament like once twice a year. Got the Double Elvis
Disgracesland team, the Stuff you should know team, the Tenderfoot team.
And here's why I'm at this event south By Southwest.

(36:55):
And like every time I get to see my fellow podcasters,
it's always in these sort of just like strictly industry things,
which is cool. I'm not complaining. I'm not complaining, but
I'm saying we need other other events, okay, or perhaps
maybe at these events we create this super fun thing
to do, like the Eagles, the band Eagles. I fucking

(37:15):
hate the Eagles. Man. You don't what I'm talking about.
They used to have their own little softball tournament. There
used to be the Rock and Jock MTV era of
softball tournaments. Remember that, That's what I'm talking about. Gotta
do something like that for podcasting. I know I have
friends out there who listen to this show, who make podcasts.
Get in touch and let me know what you think.
I'm lamenting the fact that this does not exist, which

(37:37):
I guess that technically makes this a rant, but I
don't know. It's sportsy. It's ranty, and that's why it's
here in the sports ran Matt, how did I do?
Did I nail the sixty second sports rant and under
thirty seconds or the thirty second sports rant and under
sixty seconds? I can't remember what the hell we're talking
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(37:59):
candy like flavor explosion and satisfy your sweet tooth with
the zero sugar treat once again. You can get in
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hour Energy dot com or Amazon today. Listen to the
exclusive section of this after party. It's not gonna listen
to itself, all right, me and Zeth talking about this
year's rock and roll nominees and who we think is

(38:21):
gonna get inducted in a couple weeks. If you are
not an all access member of Disgrace, sand now is
the time www dot disgraysampod dot com to sign up
and get in here back in flash. All right, guys,

(38:44):
we're back, and I mentioned so many artists today. I'm
gonna keep it short though I can. Tina Turner, The
Go Gos, Madonna, those are the archive episodes you want
to listen to if you have not listened to them yet.
Matt from Double Elvis. We'll have the episode information in
the show notes section of this bonus episode so that

(39:06):
you can easily navigate your way. Like I said to
Icontina Turner, The Go Gos, and Madonna, three of my
favorite episodes right there. I put those episodes up against
any other episode in the history of podcasts. Okay, I
love those three episodes. You're gonna love them too. If
you haven't heard them, go check them out, all right.
Threecap shallby this week, we got our new episode on

(39:27):
Chrissy Hine from The Pretenders. That's available for you right now.
We are rewinding into the archive tomorrow with our rewind
episode on Waylon Jennings. Next week we get into our
new episode on Pete Doherty and the murder mystery surrounding
Mark Blanco that's coming on Tuesday. Z that's over in
that Hollywood Land feed right now with his Hollywood and
True crime takes. Get over there and subscribe if you

(39:49):
were not subscribed already. Number five, This film should be
played loud. Our new video podcast is available on Patreon,
Disgrace lampod dot com to sign up. We've got a
new episode coming on The Big Lebowski next week. Number
six six one seven nine O six six sixty three eight.
Your voice, it keeps us digging into the dark corners
of music history. So keep calling, texting with your answers
to this week's question of the week, or with whatever

(40:10):
else you want to talk about. Nina Hagen, Susi Quattro
duly noted guys all right, Wendo Williams as well. Number seven.
Don't forget this goes. This isn't just content, it's a community,
a community of the obsessed, and no one cares about music, books, records,
and the crime and grime. It ties them all together,
like you do. And that is a disgrace, all right.
On May fourteenth, two thousand and five, that was the

(40:32):
day that the Pretenders, along with Chrissy Hine, of course,
were inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
And here's what America was listening to on that day,
according to the Billboard Charts. Number one Hall of Back
Girl Gwen Stefani last week one, peak position one weeks
on Chart seven. Number two Hate It or Love It

(40:53):
The Game featuring fifty cent last week two, peak position
two weeks on on chart fourteen.

Speaker 5 (41:01):
Just number three, Oh Sea Hotra featuring Vudabs last mile five,
peak position to three weeks on chart Can't Eat Number four,
Lonely Little Acon last week four, peak position four weeks
on Chart twelve.

Speaker 1 (41:20):
Number five Just a Little Bit fifty seven last week
fteen keeap position for five weeks. Quit talking and start mixing.