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The Rock and Roll Hall Of Fame 2026 inductees were announced, and guess what? You’re pissed! So we are starting our own Hall of Fame. Plus, we are hearing from you through your voicemails, texts, and emails about Tom Waits, Patti Smith, and, of course, this week’s subject, Grace Jones. Welcome to the After Party, Disgos!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hey, discos, need a little more Disgraceland in your life,
just to touch to get you through.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Yeah me too. This is the podcast that comes after
the podcast.

Speaker 1 (00:11):
Welcome to Disgraceland, the after Party. Welcome to the Disgraceland
bonus episode, a little thing we like to call the

(00:32):
after party. This is the show after the show, the
party after the party, the bridge to get you from
one full episode of Disgraceland to the other. The backyard,
to dig into the dirt, our mission to uncover the truth,
to confront the myth, to reclaim the story. On this
bonus episode, all the things that annoy you about the
rock and Roll Hall of Fame. So we're starting our
own rock and Roll Hall of Fame, and we're getting

(00:52):
into your answers to the question of the week from
last week that's spun out of our Grace Jones episode,
and previewing our next new episode on Depeche Mode, your emails, comments, dms,
and as always, a whole lot of Rosie. This is
the podcast for the musically obsessed, the outsiders, the independent
thinkers who.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
Know that the best history is the history that gets buried.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
Disgraceland is where I tell the stories they didn't want
told the kind you'll end up telling someone else. All right, discos,
let's get into it. Greetings, Disgraceland listeners. Happy to be

(01:35):
talking to you today because it was announced this week
that Oasis along with Wu Tang Clan, are being inducted
into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in twenty
twenty six. And I mentioned both of these groups, both
of these nominees up front because I feel like of
all the inductees, these two artists might have the most

(01:56):
appeal to Disgraceland listeners. Actually, Joy Division Slash new Or
was also inducted. I probably should have mentioned them up
up front as well. Phil Collins, Billie Idol, Shade, Iron Maiden,
and Luther Vandros are also going into the Rock and
Roll Hall of Fame this year. The list of artists
nominated who were not inducted, who aren't being inducted the snubs,

(02:21):
if you will, is the following Black Crows, Jeff Buckley,
Pink Shakira, Lauren Hill, Mariah Carey, and Melissa Ethridge. This process,
the nomination process, the inductee process for the Rock and
Roll Hall of Fame is a head scratcher every year.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
It feels like.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
Someone's always upset, and I'm usually one of these people
who's always upset. This constant source of frustration around rock
and Roll Hall of Fame inductees is for me, not
so much who gets in and who gets snubbed. It's
more about what is and what is in rock and roll.
Now some people and no offense, but mainly really old people,

(03:04):
people who came of age listening to rock and roll
sort of before punk rock and before hip hop. A
lot of these folks, not all of them, but a
lot of them, often argue against inductees being nominated whose
styles don't align to the more traditional guitar based rock
and roll of the seventies, the sixties, the fifties, your

(03:24):
Led Zeppelin's Eagles, that sort of thing, you know, more
traditional guitar based rock and traditional R and B and
soul like your Otis Redding's, Aretha Franklin's, etc. So most
of these folks don't think that hip hop or punk artists,
or heavy metal artists like Iron Maiden, than any of
these folks should be.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
In the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 1 (03:45):
Never mind pop artists who have been inducted, like Madonna
or George Michael but I don't necessarily agree with that
at all. My definition of who should and shouldn't be
in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame doesn't so
much to do with genre or style. I don't think
that shouldn't matter. Rock hip hop, pop, R and B

(04:07):
quote unquote, rock and roll, rock and roll. It's not
just two guitars and like a long haired front man
up there singing on stage making records. It's to me,
rock and roll is more just about popular music that
young hip counterculture kids listen to rock and roll from

(04:28):
its earliest days. It's an outdated term now, sure, but
from its earliest days it was all about counterculture and
the best of it.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
No matter how.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
Popular it was, it always adhered to this definition, this
sort of combative anti authority type of thing. And if
you were a combative anti authority type of kid, that's
what you gravitated toward. So if you're listening to Wu
Tang Clan when they first hit, or Nirvana or Madonna earlier,
or the Fujis, yes, these artists were massively pop popular,

(05:00):
but they were also a little bit dangerous, a little
bit subversive, and young. Like I said, young hip kids.
No matter how suburban or normy. They may have been,
or should I say we may have been. We were
listening to cool bands, both mainstream and alternative. Okay, Nirvana
super mainstream, also alternative. Madonna too, super mainstream, also super subversive.

(05:26):
Both those bands, Nirvana and Madonna, despite guitars or pop music,
whatever it is, they were listened to broadly across the
counterculture in the same way that I don't know Elvis
Presley and Aretha Franklin were decades prior. It's the same
thing to me now. I love Phil Collins and Shade,

(05:49):
two artists who are going in this year, but.

Speaker 2 (05:52):
Rock and roll. Come on, they're not rock and roll.

Speaker 1 (05:56):
When I was a kid listening to again Nirvana, Madonnaanah
Wu Tang, Phil Collins and Shade, that was music that
my parents listen to, not me. Okay, you get it.
This is my definition. I know you guys get it,
you're smart, but that's just me. I want to know
what you guys actually think specifically, Okay, I want you.

(06:17):
I want to know who do you think should be
in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame that is
not six one seven nine h six six sixty three
eight call me, leave me a voicemail or send me
a text. Email me at Disgrace lamp Pod, hit me
on the socials at Disgrace Lampod on Instagram, and what
I want to do. Listen, Let's start our own rock
and roll Hall of Fame, our own alternative indie millennial

(06:38):
gen x with awesome classic boomer case of music, our
own utopian rock and roll Hall of Fame. Okay, let's
just use the rock and roll Hall of Fame criteria,
just this one of having to have released your first
music twenty five years ago to be nominated. Okay, that's
that's their benchmark. And I like that benchmark twenty five
years since your first release. And let's induct music that

(07:01):
we listened to when we were skipping school and we
were drinking up by the railroad tracks and we were
cruising around in our Volkswagen Jettas or in our cool
friends uncle's muscle car or.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
You know whatever.

Speaker 1 (07:12):
This should be the criteria by which we are judging
our rock and Roll Hall of Fame inductees. Okay, as
well as music that we bought on little plastic compact
discs and cassettes and tower records that we read about
and spin that we maybe read about for first before
we read it, and Spin we read about them, and
Maximum rock and Roll that we watched on Beavis and
butt Head.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
We watched vis about it to make fun of these artists.

Speaker 1 (07:33):
We watched them on one hundred and twenty Minutes Headbangers Ball,
heard them on Beverly Hills nine O two one oh
or later on Dawson's Creek whatever it is.

Speaker 2 (07:41):
You know the type of music I'm talking about.

Speaker 1 (07:42):
Okay, let's induct the awesome musicians who aren't yet in
the rock and Roll Hall of Fame and create our
own little rock and roll Hall of Fame. I'll go
first my first nominee. Okay, right here, Fugazi. Their influence
is undeniable, and they'd probably insist on tickets for the
ceremony being no more than five bucks and make it
all ages event as conditions for their appearance. So this

(08:03):
one would be subversive and just like I said, completely influential.
They deserve to be in there now. Next thing I
want to do, I want to write this year is
wrong right off the bat, and I want to put
Jeff Buckley and.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
Lauren Hill, who were both snubbed this year.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
I want to put them in our Rock and Roll
Hall of Fame again, both massively influential artists. If Coldplay,
I swear to god, if Coldplay gets in before Jeff
Buckley and if Shakira gets in before Lauren Hill, we
are in trouble people. But that's just my own smart
ass gen X bias. So Joy Division slash New Order.

(08:38):
Despite how much I can't stand the hybrid nature of
the nomination, I get it, I understand it, and I
love both. I mean it's really the same group, just
different singer. I love Joydvision slash New Order. So score
one for the eighties deserve they should be in.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (08:53):
Can we score one for the nineties now though, and
put Jane's Addiction in three all time classic no soh
skip albums from Jane's Addiction plus the band's frontman started
a music festival that defined pop culture in the early
nineteen nineties, and in a lot of ways, it's still
defining pop culture.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
You know why Jaan's Addiction is not in?

Speaker 1 (09:14):
This is my theory. The Hall does not want to
have to deal with Perry Ferrell. Perry Ferrell is a lot, Okay,
He's a handful, and I think They just feel like
he's going to show up with like the Jim Rose
circus in tow and like three methed out edm DJs
trailing behind him when he.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
Goes up to accept his award. That's what I think
is going on here.

Speaker 1 (09:33):
There's no excuse for why Jane's Addiction is not in
the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame compared to the
other artists that are in, even Oasis, who I love,
and I'm happy they're in there, but still Jane's addiction
way just way more influential on pop culture, all right.
In twenty twenty two, a Lotis morris Set declined an

(09:54):
invitation to perform at the Rock and Roll Hall of
Fame induction ceremony, claiming that she didn't want to be
part of an event that reduced women. And this is
the exact reason Alanis Morissett needs to be inducted into
the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. What's the first
rule of rock stardom? What's the first rule of being
a rock star? The first rule of being a rock

(10:14):
star is to be a rock star. Okay, I think
I just made that up, but you know what I'm saying,
We should be celebrating the anti heroes in rock and roll.
We should be celebrating the truly subversive as opposed to
the boot lickers who are campaigning for votes behind the scenes. Next,
Bikini Kill, because if you're going to nominate Melissa Ethridge

(10:34):
and recognize the whole Lilith Fair influence on nineties pop culture,
then you have to recognize the Riot Girl influence on
that same decade.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
And Bikini Kill is the.

Speaker 1 (10:45):
Sonic boom of that moment. New York Dolls, New York Dolls,
New York Dolls. I should have led with New York Dolls.
New York Dolls might be of all the artists I've mentioned, yet,
they might be the most influential.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
Who is not in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
You don't get punk rock, guys without the New York
for Dolls, and without punk rock, you don't get grunge,
and you don't get whatever the hell it is we're
listening to nowadays.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
Okay, New York Dolls need.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
To be in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
full stop. Also, I'm from Boston, so forgive me Jay
Giles band.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
What are we doing? No love for Boston? Why? Why
I'm biased. I know I am, but just listen.

Speaker 1 (11:23):
You know how you got artists from your hometown and
you know they're big, but you're so clouded by the
context of being so close to them your whole life
that you can't tell how big they are. That's what
the Jay Giles Band is from me. On the one hand,
they seem huge. I mean, Peter Wolf was married to

(11:44):
Faye Dunaway, Okay, and at a time when Faye Dunaway
was like, you know, at the absolute you know, pinnacle
of the zeitgeist. So I don't know, I mean, but
I still see, like you know, if you're from Boston,
you know you run into Peter Wolf all the time. Anyhow,
I just think Jay Giles Band, like, just okay, just

(12:05):
try this for a test. Put the Jay Gaales Band on.
Next time you and your friends are hanging out partying,
drinking you know, beer, shitty beer out of red solo
cups and playing quarters or whatever. Put Jay Guiles on,
Put centerfold on or freeze frame or must have got lost,
and try not having a good time.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
You cannot. It's impossible.

Speaker 1 (12:24):
These these songs were stone cold hits, and these hits
like number one hits, by the way, came after the
band already had a decade of blowing faces out touring
across America with the Stones, Thin Lizzie, Stevie Wonder and others.

Speaker 2 (12:39):
Just put Jay Giles in the Rock and Roll Hall
of Fame. Make Peter Wolf happy.

Speaker 1 (12:42):
Okay, Let's make the rock and roll gods happy here
and induct the Replacements and Big Star on the same ballot.
Ram went into the Hall in two thousand and seven.
They wouldn't have even have been a band without the
Replacements or Big Star. And while we're at it, Eric
being rocking an Iced Tea both need to be in.
It's This is like a New York Dolls saying these

(13:03):
guys they need to be in like last week.

Speaker 2 (13:05):
It's hard. I can't imagine.

Speaker 1 (13:07):
Nineties hip hop without either of these hip hop artists,
and and any hip hop that came after these these,
after Eric B and Rock.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
Him and after Iced Tea would not be the same. Okay.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
Their influence is massive, different types of influence completely. I
can make an argument for Tri Tribe cloll Quest as well.
Those those three records were everywhere. They were everywhere everywhere
you went in the nineties. You would hear tribecloll Quest.
Everyone listened to them, not just hip hop kids. The
band truly crossed over. And if we're gonna have the
Beastie Boys in the rock and roll Hall of Fame,
and we absolutely should, we should have a tribe call

(13:40):
Quest as well as well as Iced Tea and Eric
being rock him. So what do you think of our
little gen X millennial great taste in boomer music rock
and roll Hall of Fame that we got going here?
I think it's shaping up pretty well. But then again,
I don't really care because I'm a disaffected, latch key
kid who's just, you know, riddled with apathy and indifference
and whatever. Never mind, No, I do care. I'm kidding,

(14:03):
and I want to know what you guys think.

Speaker 2 (14:04):
Seriously.

Speaker 1 (14:05):
I think that nineties music right now, there's already been
a resurgence, but I think that resurgence is going to
get even greater. I think the influence of nineties on
popular culture it's it's really I think this is the
beginning of its peak. But we got a ways to go,
and I think we're going to start to see more
music that I listened to as a kid in junior

(14:28):
high and in high school and in college. I think
we're going to start to see more of that influence
on modern day pop culture. And I think a lot
more of these artists are going to go into the
Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in fairly short order, hopefully.
But again, I want to know what you guys think.
Six one seven nine oh six six six three eight.
Leave me a voicemail, semi a text, and you might
hear yourself and your answer on next week's after Party

(14:51):
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(15:14):
one that we're having over in the chat, you also
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bonus section of this Yere Bonus episode today, whereas Eth
and I are going to be discussing in more detail
this year's Hall of Fame inductees. We made some picks
a couple weeks back. We're gonna grade ourselves. We're gonna

(15:37):
see how we did. Okay, I'm not gonna give anything
away here, but you're gonna want to check that out.
Go to disgrace lampod dot com to sign up become
a Disgrace Slant All Access member today now discos. Grace
Jones is not in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame,
but she is the newest subject of Disgraceland because she
was not just a multiiphon icon of the nineteen eighties,

(15:59):
she is also a walking true crime. Her story is scary,
it's harrowing, it's surprising. I didn't know a lot of
this going into this story. It's also inspiring, and you
can hear it now if you haven't already, as it
is the latest episode in your feed right before this
here bonus eep that we're doing right now that you're

(16:20):
listening to that I'm creating that you're hearing right now.
Coming up next though in your feed, next our rewind
episode on the Beastie Boys and if you want to
hear how the Beastie is inspired in actual crime wave
and overcame becoming the dick joke that they were trying
to make. Well, you need to listen to this classic
episode of Disgrace Slam and that's going to hit your
feed this coming Sunday. Next week, our next new episode

(16:44):
that's on Depeche Mode. It's gonna be coming your way
on Tuesday. Debauchery, excess, near death experiences in some of
the sexiest music evert that all hits next week. Guys,
I'm gonna have myself a little depeche Mode weekend. Actually,
in preparation, I'm gonna listen Violator on CD, Yes on CD,
because it sounds incredible. It's one of the best sounding

(17:05):
albums of all time. Depeche modes Violator, It's just incredible.

Speaker 2 (17:11):
And what else.

Speaker 1 (17:12):
There's a recent depeche Mode live like concert film. I
think it's called M Mode. Depeche Mode M is it
called M I'm looking here and I can't quite tell, but.

Speaker 2 (17:26):
I've seen it.

Speaker 1 (17:26):
It's easy to get and it's great, and these guys
are super old and they lost nothing nothing. And there's
also the Depeche Mode one oh one, which I think
that's the more classic depeche Mode concert film.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (17:39):
I'm gonna get in someto depeche Mode concert films this weekend.
Delve into some proper rock stardom to get ready for
Tuesday's episode. When you're listening to our new depeche Mode story,
be thinking about their song Personal Jesus. Great song, A
song that upset my mother to no end. That video,
Oh my goodness, it it just drove her nuts. I

(18:02):
still don't know why. When you're listening to depeche Mode
and you're thinking about Personal Jesus, think about not their version,
think about the Johnny Cash version.

Speaker 2 (18:13):
It's such an.

Speaker 1 (18:14):
Unlikely cover song. I remember when that came out, we were.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
Like, what what the fuck?

Speaker 1 (18:21):
It made no sense, But then again quickly it made
all the sense in the world. My point is that
it's a very unlikely cover, and I love unlikely covers,
and I love the conversation around unlikely covers. And that's
gonna be our new question of the week. That's gonna
be we're gonna be talking about next week. So call
me six one seven, nine oh six, six sixt three

(18:43):
eight and let me know what songs you've come across
in your music listening experience that are great unlikely covers.
Marilyn Manson's Uh Sweet Dreams by the Rhythmics comes to mind,
Beck covering rat Bury Beret. There's a whole bunch here.
Let me know some of your favorite unlikely cover songs.

(19:06):
You know which familiar song did you hear covered by
an artist that made you go Six one seven nine
oh six six six three eight. Leave me a voicemail
with your answers. Text me with your answers. Email me
at Disgrace Lampod at gmail dot com with your answers.
Hit me on Instagram and Facebook and elsewhere at Disgrace
Lampod with your answers. I will be back right after

(19:28):
this with you got it your answers to last week's
question of the week. All right, guys, six one seven

(19:53):
nine oh six six six three eight. You know where
I'm at, Iam in the phone booth. It's the one
across the hall. I'm hanging on the telephone with all
your beautiful Disgraceland listeners. This goes last week's question of
the week in relation to our most recent episode on
Grace Jones was which musicians do you love who made
the transition to acting or which actors do you love
who made the transition to music. Let's hear from Amy in.

Speaker 2 (20:15):
The four one four.

Speaker 3 (20:17):
Hey, Jake, this is Amy. I'm calling to tell you
that my favorite actor slash musician is Tom White and
he popped. There's two of them. They're both profees of
Jim Jarmush, who is one of my favorite directors. I
love the work that Tom White has done, and by
love that Bill Die I think it is and other things,

(20:41):
Oh dractul love he was amazing.

Speaker 4 (20:43):
And Dracula.

Speaker 3 (20:43):
He was actually the best actor in the nineties Dracula
because really nobody else is very.

Speaker 5 (20:47):
Good in it.

Speaker 3 (20:48):
I think that answers your question, So have a great night.

Speaker 2 (20:51):
Bye, Amy, Thank you for your message. I love Tom
Waite so much.

Speaker 1 (20:55):
You know, when I was making music back in the day,
my dream was that if we ever got a big
record deal, like a huge record deal. You know, this
is the nineties when they spent millions of dollars on
videos and we had a gigantic you know, if we
were giving a gigantic video budget, my dream is to
hire Tom Waits to act in our video sadly though

(21:16):
it never happened.

Speaker 2 (21:16):
But I am with you, I hear you.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
I love Tom Waits and well for basically everything, but
I love you mentioned a couple good roles, but I
love him in The Outsiders as well. It's a brief,
brief role, Buck Merril. He's also great as the limo
driver in Robert Altman's shortcuts. Basically, anytime the guy comes
on screen, I like you get excited.

Speaker 2 (21:38):
So thank you for your call. Appreciate you.

Speaker 1 (21:41):
Let's check out Abby from the five oh five on
our question of great music memoirs.

Speaker 5 (21:47):
Hey, Jake Tabby call in from the five oh five
talking about great biographies. Of course, Keith richards autobiography is
phenomenal and the all time classic Hammer of Gods led Zeppelin,
and I really also enjoyed Zayan's conversations with Tom Petty

(22:08):
oldies but goodies keep him coming.

Speaker 1 (22:11):
Thanks Abby, thanks for the call. Keith Richard's life fantastic
and all timer. In all the conversation however, that we've
had over this week and last about great music memoirs,
you are the first to bring up Hammer of the Gods,
which what a controversial book when it came out. I
think I was, I don't know, fourteen when I read

(22:33):
that book. I should not have read it at fourteen.
I hope my kids don't read it at fourteen. That's
a great one.

Speaker 2 (22:40):
And I love I love, love love.

Speaker 1 (22:43):
Tom Petty the book he did with Warren Zan's. It's fantastic.
It's so good. Thank you for those recks. Let's hear
from the four to eight.

Speaker 4 (22:54):
Oh hey, Jake, this is Sue and Georgia responding to
your requests for how we listen to podcasts. What podcasts
we listen to. I prefer a storytelling podcast. I want
to be told a story, a good story. My first
was This American Life, and from there I have accumulated

(23:16):
the number. I went to my favorite murder, which is
How I found You several years ago, so Disgrace Plan
and then Hollywood Land through that great storytelling. I enjoy them.
I'm way old. I'm in my seventies, so I don't
know all the bands that you talk about, but I

(23:36):
looked them up and I checked them out. You know,
I had different takes, way different tastes. I'm a child
of the sixties, so a lot of pop anyway, enjoy
your show. Glad to have you on exactly right now
and look forward to future stories. Take care soon.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
Thank you, thank you for your message.

Speaker 1 (23:58):
And yeah, we welcome fans of all music, of music
from every generation. Sue, I want to I want to
hit on this American life and the storytelling type of
podcasting that we do here and that they do it
exactly right and that we all love. And I think
in a way, this American Life it was teaching us

(24:21):
all how to tell stories. That podcast was and iraglass
was before many of us even knew that this is
what we would end up doing. So it's no surprise
to me that our listeners, the great listeners like you,
love this American life. It's it's it's kind of the
big bang of storytelling podcasting.

Speaker 2 (24:39):
It's fantastic.

Speaker 1 (24:40):
Six one seven nine oh six six six three eight.
You can call in like Sue and leave a message.

Speaker 2 (24:45):
You can also text. All right, Let's check out this
text from Miranda in.

Speaker 1 (24:51):
The eight five six, Hey Jake, Miranda from South Jersey here.
I don't know why people do this, but they do it,
so I did. I just came across this website. I
thought you'd appreciate it. Www Dot.

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What should I read? Next dot com.

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I know you're a reader as am I and always
looking for recommendations, and I found the concept interesting. My
personal favorite book is The Lake of Dead Languages by
Carol Goodman. It's a thriller with a wild twist, and
I think you'd like it. Also, I watched Tiller Russell's
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the survivors we're describing it is wild. Thank you for
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Speaker 2 (25:32):
iHeart team up. That is amazing. Eight five six, Miranda,
thank you so much. I love this resource. What should
I read next? It looks cool.

Speaker 1 (25:41):
I can't wait to delve into it a little more fully.
The Lake of Dead Language is by Carol Goodman, a
thriller with a wild twist. Right up my alley. This
sounds awesome, And yes, Tiller's Waco doc on Netflix is
absolutely incredible.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
It's did you use.

Speaker 1 (25:58):
The word harrowing so we used to describe it that
that feels accurate If you didn't, That's how that's what
I'm going to say about that. I'm kind of thinking
about it now. I'm losing my thought here. Back to
the text messages. Trip me up there, Miranda, appreciate you.
Let's check out the four to one two. Hey, Jake,

(26:20):
this is Heather the Yinser and I kind of have
a first world problem. I've been off work the last
several weeks and haven't had a chance to listen to
see if you read any of my reviews on Spotify.
I usually listen to all your podcasts going to and
from work, so that hasn't happened, and I'm about a
month behind. And now I feel like Mickey Mouse and
the fucking Fantasia. There's so many episodes to catch up on,

(26:41):
so much of a good thing. Can you tell me
if you read any reviews from Heather the y Inser
or Coropolis peeps, that's my old Spotify name. I'm dying
to get my hands on a double Elvis T shirt
or hat. Thanks in advance and rock a rolla. Heather
appreciate you as always. No, we did not read one
of your reviews, but you know what, Heather, email me

(27:03):
or just respond here via text. Your shirt size I'll
see what we got, and I will just take you
at your word that you left a review, and I'll
send you something good. Peoples, what what is this? What?

Speaker 4 (27:14):
Wait?

Speaker 2 (27:14):
What's happening? People are getting stuff in the mail? What's Yeah?

Speaker 1 (27:17):
Well, occasionally you guys leave reviews on Apple podcasts, and
if I read the review here on the show and
you hear your review, you get in touch six one
seven nine oh six six six three eight via text
or voicemail and send me your shirt size. Not saying
you get a shirt. You might get a pin, you
might get a sticker. Sometimes I send shirts, sometimes I

(27:38):
send signed books. And the reason I do this is
because the reviews help power discovery of the show. Super important.
Lou two four oh seven on Apple Podcasts, great content,
Enjoy the pod, love the format.

Speaker 2 (27:50):
Hey, Lou, get in touch. We'll get you some merch.
See how easy that was.

Speaker 1 (27:54):
Just go to Apple Podcasts and leave a review for
disgrace sand and hold on, hold on. Some of you
are saying, but wait, I left review and I haven't
gotten anything in the mill yet. Alison, Marie Spencer and
Rob McLean, You've got stuff coming your way shortly. Anyone
else who left a review and heard it read back
on the pod. Get in touch and we'll get you
some merch. If you haven't left review, go for it

(28:15):
and we'll get you some merch.

Speaker 2 (28:16):
All right.

Speaker 1 (28:17):
A two eight text in Hey Jake, this is Arwin
from the eight to eight two answers for this week
Crossover Artists answer. Tom Waits is my favorite crossover artists.
His music and acting they are fantastic. That's two for
Tom Waits, guys. Arwin goes on to say, when do
I listen to podcasts? I often listen twice, once when
I have insomnia and need to listen to True Crying

(28:37):
to fall asleep, and then I listen again sometime in
the next few days because I want to hear the
episode while fully awake. I wonder if anyone else does this, well, Arwen,
I'll tell you. I oftentimes fall asleep when I'm reviewing
the mixes of Disgrace Land, and uh then I wake

(28:58):
up and I finished the review.

Speaker 2 (29:00):
It's the first time admitted that to anyone. Matt there
you go. Don't take that personally.

Speaker 1 (29:07):
Okay, who else we got here? Let's do a couple
more of these texts. The nine oh seven rights in Hey, Jay,
congrats to you and all the team at Double Elvis
for joining with Exactly Right Media. It was Karen and
Georgia the guided me to Disgraceland in the first place.
How exciting to see what happens with my two favorite
podcasts joined forces. Keep doing what you do in Lisa
from the nine oh seven, Lisa, appreciate the support.

Speaker 2 (29:28):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (29:28):
We are psyched on our partnership with Exactly Right and
with Karen and Georgia from my favorite murder Ato three
texts in Hey, fucking phenomenal Patti Smith episode. The way
you told her story was just as badass as she
is rock on. Thank you eight oh three. That was
nice of you to say. Three two three Rights and
Jake Jeff from the three two three The bar has
been raised with the Patti Smith episode. You guys knocked

(29:50):
it out of the park. You mentioned Jim Carroll a
few times. Hopefully you have an episode brewing on Jim.
He's put out some great punk records and not to
mention his book then the film Basketball Diaries. Yes, definitely
have a Jim Carroll episode in the works, or at
least on a list that'll be coming.

Speaker 2 (30:06):
Thanks Jeff, appreciate you guys.

Speaker 1 (30:08):
You knowwhere else is coming me and your emails and
some recommendations on the other side of this break.

Speaker 2 (30:29):
All right, guys, we are back, and I've sort of made.

Speaker 1 (30:30):
A pledge in the last few weeks to do more recommendations,
both here in the after Party music recommendations, we'll do
some film and TV rex as well, but also with
zath Over in his rap party episode in the Hollywood
Land Feed. And we got into a really interesting discussion
this week on great theme songs from films, which is

(30:52):
a harder question.

Speaker 2 (30:53):
To answer than you might think.

Speaker 1 (30:55):
Excuse me, Matt, give the people a little bit of
a taste of that conversation.

Speaker 6 (31:01):
So let me jump on my picks here. My first
one is I'm going to go the route that you
try to avoid I think a little bit here, and
I'm going to choose the song Weird Science by Oingo Boingo.

Speaker 2 (31:11):
That's a great one actually from John Hughes. I would listen.
I would listen to that on purpose. I would this.

Speaker 6 (31:17):
I mean it comes so it's on that it was
written for that movie, the John Hughes movie, but it's
also on Oingo Boingco's Dead Man's Party, which I fucking
love that album. That's God.

Speaker 2 (31:25):
I don't know that record.

Speaker 6 (31:27):
Oh you don't know what has dead Man's Party, which
is awesome. Just Another Day is on that stay. It's incredible,
It's incredible.

Speaker 2 (31:33):
You need that in life, all right? All right?

Speaker 6 (31:35):
I think I don't think it was their last I
think it was like midway through. But for those who
don't know, Oingo Boingo is Danny Elfman's band from the eighties.
This like strange. How would you define them? They're like
an art pop kind of bands.

Speaker 1 (31:48):
Exactly like in the world of Talking Heads, but weirder
and more more kind of dance oriented and just.

Speaker 6 (31:54):
Even more so than Talking Heads.

Speaker 1 (31:56):
Yeah, and weird Science is fantastic. I'm so pissed. I
didn't think of that. That movie is so so.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
Huge in my in my formative years that I bombed.

Speaker 4 (32:04):
I didn't think of that.

Speaker 6 (32:05):
I picked up this really cool box set recently called
Life Moves Pretty Fast. It's like five records and it's
all the songs from John Hughes movies. So it's like
Ferris Bueller, Breakfast Club sixteen, everything wow, and including like
they famously never released an official soundtrack for Ferris Bueller,
which has a bunch of cool shit on it. So anyways,
shout out to that. All right, My next song here

(32:26):
is that thing you do, the theme to the nineteen
ninety six Tom Hanks film about the fictional band The Wonders.
This was written, of course by Adams slashing air. Debatable,
fountains of Wayne, Oh yeah, debatable, oh shit. All right,

(32:47):
So Mike Viola the great, one of the great voices
of all time. In my opinion, my humble opinion, Mike
Viola sings this song.

Speaker 1 (32:54):
And had something it had something to do with the writing,
but it was incredit wasn't credited.

Speaker 6 (32:59):
Totally, and there's some moments that totally feel like Mike
moments that.

Speaker 1 (33:02):
Yeah, that songs great and thank you for reminding me
that I need to show my kids that movie, so
damn good. All right, guys, you're gonna want to hear
that convo with Zeth and I. It's some great theme
song recommendations over in the hollywood Land Rap Party, make
sure you're subscribe to hollywood Land and Apple podcasts, the
iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. We're releasing

(33:23):
content over there. It's it's you know, it's music guys
talking about movies and true crime in Hollywood History, and
hollywood Land is helm by my partner in true crime,
Zeth Lundy. We got three episodes hitting every week over there,
and there's always a music connection to everything that we
talk about. To further fuel or as the manifestation I

(33:45):
should say, of the fuel that is our music in
movie fascination, Zeth and I have another podcast, a video
podcast exclusively video called This Film Should be Played Loud,
which looks at the greatest scores in soundtracks from music history.
The last one was on The Big Lebowski. The next
one is on High Fidelity. Go to disgrace lampod dot

(34:07):
com to sign up to become an all Access member
so that you can watch this Film Should Be Played Loud.
But hollywood Land is available to everybody. Subscribe to Hollywood
Land on Apple Podcasts, the Iheartradiot wherever you get your podcasts.
All right, guys, let's play new song, old song. Speaking
of recommendations, the new song of the week recommendation. The
new song that I am recommending for old heads like

(34:29):
me is end of Beginning by Joe. That's DJO and
I'm not gonna Lie. I hated this song the first
time I heard it, but my kids wore me down.

Speaker 2 (34:40):
They love it now.

Speaker 1 (34:41):
My kids also love Harry Nilsen and Fugazi and Weird
Al and Mister Fantasy, so they got pretty great taste.
Joe the artist is also Steve from Stranger Things, the
actor Joe Keery. So this this recommendation makes perfect sense
for this week because of our Grace Jones episode. We're
talking about actors and who made the transition from acting

(35:02):
to music and vice versa. So Joe Djo end of beginning.
That is my new song recommendation for this week. The
old song that I'm recommending this week. Okay, the old
song is misunderstanding by Phil Collins for a couple reasons. One,
it was just announced that Phil Collins is going into

(35:22):
the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame this year. Two,
as lame as I thought Phil was as a kid,
I have late in life on set Phil Collins appreciation
disease and I love this damn song. I've probably listened
to this song more than any other single song in
the past twelve months, and that's saying something. Now listen,
I get it. Phil Collins is lame. Phil Collins is
shit that your math teacher listened to when he couldn't

(35:43):
find his lame ass. Jimmy Buffett CED's Phil Collins is
the dude who looks like your uncle Rick. If your
uncle Rick was even lamer than he already is. Phil
Collins was in Genesis, and the only thing lamer than
Genesis is Phil Collins. According to your twelve year old
MTV watching eyes, Phil Collins is even lamer than Peter Gabriel.
And that is no easy thing to do. But here's
the thing. What I'm saying, all these years later is

(36:04):
that Phil Collins is the shit, and this old song
needs to be listened to. With new years, new shit
has come to light. Dude, misunderstanding by Phil Collins, Give
it a spin. After end of beginning by Joe, got
a new song you want to recommend to me and
your fellow discos, how about an old song? Six one
seven nine oh six six six three eight, All right, listen,

(36:25):
Speaking of the Hall of Fame, the rock and roll
Hall of Fame, Zeth and I made some predictions and boy,
oh boy, it was a thing. And we get into
that in the exclusive section of this year after Party
coming up, go to disgrace slampod dot com to sign
up to become an all Access member. All right, guys,
we will be back right after this break. All right, guys,

(36:58):
we are back.

Speaker 2 (36:58):
Listen.

Speaker 1 (36:59):
We mentioned so many artists in this episode of the
After Party. A lot of them are featured in Disgraceland
episodes from the past in our archive. We're gonna pick
out a couple here, Jeff Buckley, Madonna, George Michael. Okay,
we have episodes on all three of those artists, and
Matt will have the episode information in the show notes

(37:23):
of this after Party. Help you navigate through our archive
to find those stories. If you got questions on other
stories other artists that we've covered, hit me out. I'll
point you in the right direction. All right, let's recap
Number one this week, our new episode on Grace Jones
is available for you right now. Number two, our rewind
episode is on the Beastie Boys, and that's coming up
for you guys this Sunday.

Speaker 2 (37:44):
Number three.

Speaker 1 (37:44):
Next week's new episode, we are getting Sexy with depeche Mode.

Speaker 2 (37:47):
Four Zeth is going to.

Speaker 1 (37:48):
Give you those Hollywood and true crime vibes in Hollywood Land,
So make sure that you are subscribed to the Hollywood
Land podcast. I'm also giving you my music reres over
in the Hollywood Land Rap Party that's happening every week.
Number five. Currently, this film should be played loud. Our
new video podcast with our new episode on Big Lebowski
is available for you to check out. You gotta be

(38:08):
an All Access member for that. Our next episode is
gonna be on High Fidelity. Number six six, one, seven
nine or six six six three eight. Your voice keeps
us digging into the dark corners of music history. So
keep calling, keep texting with your answers to the question
of the week, or with whatever else you want to
talk about.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
Number seven. Don't forget discos. This isn't just content.

Speaker 1 (38:25):
It's a community, a community of the obsessed. No one
cares about music, books, records and the crime and grime
that ties them all.

Speaker 2 (38:33):
Together like you do. And well that's a disgrace.

Speaker 1 (38:36):
Back on April eighth, nineteen eighty nine, the iconic Grace
Jones was arrested in Kingston, Jamaica. The Clampdown Baby. Here's
what America was listening to on that day. According to
the Billboard Charts, number one the Look Rock set last
week three peak position one weeks on Chart nine, number

(38:58):
two Flame the Bengals last week one, peak position one
weeks on charts, ten weeks on number three Peak Girl
you Know It's True last week and number two, peak
position of two weeks on chart, fourteen weeks on the
number four She Drives Me Crazy Fine Young Cannibals last

(39:23):
week six, peak position four weeks on Chart eleven, number five,
Like About Madonna last week Physic

Speaker 2 (39:43):
Quit talking and start mixing it.
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