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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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(00:21):
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Speaker 2 (00:43):
Well, let me ask you this because I feel like
there's a lesson in every story, and there's something that
you can take from every story and learn from every story.
And sometimes what we think is reality isn't reality. And
it's important for people to know the truth. And it's
important for people to learn from other people's experiences because
(01:06):
it could potentially happen to you. So a few years ago,
we had a former president, Donald Trump, and it was
very controversial when you took a picture with him, and
you got a lot of backlash, a lot of hate,
all conds of negative energy.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
But when we met you, you explained to us the story.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
And when you explain to us the story, it was
so crazy because it just goes to show you how
something can be changed and the narrative can be painted
and people just run with half of what they see
and they don't even understand it.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Can you explain that infamous moment?
Speaker 4 (01:44):
Well, first of all, if I listened to my wife,
it wouldn't have been no infamous moment.
Speaker 5 (01:50):
First lesson, that's the first lesson.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Lesson number one.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
That's number one. But here's what happened. Before he got
I had sworn in. He had appointed Ben Carson to
the head of HUD, and HUD is housing in urban Development.
Speaker 5 (02:11):
It's the only black on the cabinet.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
So I said, let me go up there and meet
Ben Carson. So when I got to Trump Towers, I
went in, sat down to meet with him, and he said,
why are you here. I said, I want to meet
Ben Carson because I have an idea. He got Ben
Carson on the phone, being Ben Carson talked right away.
(02:35):
I told him the idea I had. I wanted to
take some of these schools that they had destroyed and
shut down in black neighborhoods, and I wanted to take
them and turn them into what I call Vision centers,
where we would create financial literacy after school programs, you know,
and get these young cats off the streets so they
(02:55):
have something to do, and then give the parents some
financial literacy. He fell in love with the idea. I
leave the building. I'm on the elevator. Donald Trump say
I'll ride down with you. I said, I beat damn.
So he gets on the elevator. He riding down with him. Now,
(03:16):
before I got on elevator, I told the reporters I'll
be back over and tell you why I'm here. I
walk up to the reporters. He walks in front of me.
He the president, to be right, So he walks.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
In front of me. Now I'm standing there. First word
out his mouth.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
Was we gonna repeal and replace Obamacare.
Speaker 5 (03:35):
I didn't say shit about that. I didn't mention none
of that. Then, oh, what you're talking about? Man?
Speaker 4 (03:43):
You know what I'm saying. I'm sitting here going I'll
beat damn. And all I heard was my wife going,
don't go up there yet. So when he left, I
stood up and told the reporters what the deal was.
By the time I got to my car, because this happen,
and on my sixtieth birthday was that weekend, my wife
(04:04):
had a nice trip for me. All I had to
do was go get on that damn boat, like she said,
That's all my ass had to do. But oh, knew
I'm gonna go up here for black people before.
Speaker 5 (04:17):
I got in the car. I couldn't believe it. I
couldn't believe it.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
Man. I was a coon, I was a jigaboot, I
was a spook. I was an Uncle Tom. And that
shit hurt me to the core because all I do
when I wake up is walk out the door as
a black man, to represent the black culture, to be
(04:46):
something that some young person can look at.
Speaker 5 (04:48):
And go, yeah, I do it that way.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
My whole hustling grind has been for black people.
Speaker 5 (04:54):
And so it kind of hurt me.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Man.
Speaker 5 (04:57):
And so his.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
Fast forward turns out the Vision Centers was the only
initiative Ben Carson had his entire run. They changed the
name of it from Vision Centers to Vision Centers. You
can go online look them up. They opened up three
of them, all the ideas I had given them, they
(05:21):
enabled it. Then they asked me to come take a
picture with being Carson in front of the schools, and
I said na, because y'all had ate my ass up
so bad before. Y'all ain't getting no more pictures of me.
My family got attacked and all this here.
Speaker 5 (05:38):
But that was a.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
Hurtful moment for me because I went up there to
get housing and benefit for black people and then they
turned on me like that, you know, But I always
know how to hang in there. You know. It's kind
of like, I know it's a lot of hip hop
casts in here, but old school music still registers very
deep in my I'm an R and B guy. So
(06:01):
there's a song that Temptations had out, and I had
to sing it to myself. I know you won't leave me,
but I refuse to let you go. If I have
to beg and plead for your.
Speaker 5 (06:14):
Sympathy, I don't mind, because you mean that much to me.
So I just hung in there with black people.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
I just stayed in that with y'all's asked because I
knew eventually y'all was gonna have to get all right.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
Well, some of y'all didn't. But it's cool though, But.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
I want to ask you about that because when you
reach levels of success, especially now, you're gonna get some
level of hate online. You're gonna get some level of
hate on YouTube, You're gonna get critics, and it has
it has an effect on your on your psyche.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
So how would you how would you coach people through?
Speaker 2 (06:53):
What advice would you give to the young people that
haven't experienced that yet. But they might be in sports,
they might be in music, they might be entrepreneur, they
might be online at some point when that comes, what
do you do to just keep going?
Speaker 4 (07:06):
It's interesting because I was talking to Walker Flocker backstage
and he came up to me and said, hey, man,
you don't know what you mean to me. I've never
met the brother before and he was saying, you don't
know what you mean to me.
Speaker 5 (07:20):
He said, Man, I follow you. I listened to you. Man.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
He said, man, you changed from just a comedian to
a real man, and you made me start looking at
some things I want to do. And then we shook hands.
He was fitting to walk away and he turned around.
He said, you know what else I like about you? Man?
You ain't vengeful. You're not vengeful. And that kind of
stuck with me, so I said, how you mean? He said, man,
(07:45):
you could come back at so many people. But I
don't never see you going out to attack people because
I learned a long time ago from a minister. He said,
stay on the wall. When they throwing rocks at you,
stay on wall. If you come down off the wall
to address haters and small people see they eye level
(08:07):
with you.
Speaker 5 (08:08):
Now. Now they can.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
Throw the rocks and they hurt. But if you just
stay on the wall, what can they do.
Speaker 5 (08:14):
And you gotta.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
Understand some young people about haters. Haters are not decision makers,
power brokers, or shakers and movers. They have no determining
factor on your life, where you headed, or what God
planned for you.
Speaker 5 (08:28):
Stop giving haters power.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Stop it.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
Don't even talk to they ass I don't give it. Look, man,
I'm sixty five. I don't give a damn what you
say about me.
Speaker 5 (08:39):
You ain't.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
You're not stopping nothing. Look what God has for you,
it is yours. All God's plans for you, his purpose.
If you just open up yourself to them, he gonna
make all of them come true. But if you stop
and keep addressing haters, you will never be open to
(09:00):
your purpose and your mission in life.
Speaker 5 (09:02):
So my directive is to stay on the wall.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
When they attacked me for whatever, I stay on the
wall because they do it all the time, man, especially people.
Speaker 5 (09:12):
I thought I was cool with other celebrities.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
You know, they got little stuff to say, But then
I look at their career and they.
Speaker 5 (09:19):
Have time to say little stuff. They have time. See.
Let me tell you something, man, People is busy. They
ain't got time.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
Denzel ain't got time talk about me, Magic.
Speaker 5 (09:35):
Johnson ain't got time talking about Tyler Perry.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
Ain't got time talk about me because they building their empire. Man,
let me tell you something, man. One time I was
sitting to respond to something on the blog. Tyler Perry
called me and said, hey, man, what you getting ready
to do. I said, I'm going on CNN with Anderson
Cooper and I'm straighten this whole thing out in them blogs.
Speaker 5 (09:57):
He said, no, you're not. He said.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
You know why, He said, listen to me, Steve. When
they talk about you, it's a blog. If you open
your mouth, it's a press conference. You got to know
who you are. So I say to all people out there,
know who you are and know where God taking you.
Speaker 5 (10:17):
Get up on the wall and stay there. That's powerful Erness.
What's up?
Speaker 1 (10:29):
You ever walk into a small business and everything just
works like the checkout is fast, or seats are digital,
tipping is a breeze and you're out the door before
the line even builds odds are they're using Square. We
love supporting businesses that run on Square because it just
feels seamless. Whether it's a local coffee shop, a vendor
at a pop up market, or even one.
Speaker 5 (10:50):
Of our merch partners.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Square makes it easy for them to take payments, manage inventory,
and run their business with confidence, all from one simple system.
One of the things we love most is seeing neighborhood
businesses level up. Disnes's West Indian Spired writing our community
that started with a small takeout counter. Now with Square,
they've been able to expand into a full sit down
(11:12):
restaurant and even started catering events across the city. That's
the kind of growth that inspires us, and it's powered
by Square. Square is built for all types of businesses,
from the corner bagel shop that turned into a local chain,
to the specialty market with thousands of unique items, to
the stylists who's been holding you down for years. If
(11:32):
you're a business owner or even just thinking about launching
something soon, Square is hands down one of the best
tools out there to help you start, run, and grow.
It's not just about payments, it's about giving you time
back so you can focus on what matters most ready.
To see how Square can transform your business, visit Square
dot com backslash, go backslash eyl to learn more that
(11:56):
Square dot com backslash, go backslash eyo, don't wait, don't hesitate.
Let's Square handle the back end so you can keep
pushing your vision forward.
This episode is brought to you by P and C Bank.
A lot of people think podcasts about work are boring,
and sure they definitely can be, but understanding a professionals
routine shows us how they achieve their success little by little,
day after day. It's like banking with P and C Bank.
It might seem boring to save, plan and make calculated
(00:21):
decisions with your bank, but keeping your money boring is
what helps you live or more happily fulfilled life. P
and C Bank Brilliantly Boring since eighteen sixty five. Brilliantly
Boring since eighteen sixty five is a service mark of
the PNC Financial Service Group, Inc. P and C Bank
National Association Member FDIC.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Well, let me ask you this because I feel like
there's a lesson in every story, and there's something that
you can take from every story and learn from every story.
And sometimes what we think is reality isn't reality. And
it's important for people to know the truth. And it's
important for people to learn from other people's experiences because
(01:06):
it could potentially happen to you. So a few years ago,
we had a former president, Donald Trump, and it was
very controversial when you took a picture with him, and
you got a lot of backlash, a lot of hate,
all conds of negative energy.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
But when we met you, you explained to us the story.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
And when you explain to us the story, it was
so crazy because it just goes to show you how
something can be changed and the narrative can be painted
and people just run with half of what they see
and they don't even understand it.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Can you explain that infamous moment?
Speaker 4 (01:44):
Well, first of all, if I listened to my wife,
it wouldn't have been no infamous moment.
Speaker 5 (01:50):
First lesson, that's the first lesson.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Lesson number one.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
That's number one. But here's what happened. Before he got
I had sworn in. He had appointed Ben Carson to
the head of HUD, and HUD is housing in urban Development.
Speaker 5 (02:11):
It's the only black on the cabinet.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
So I said, let me go up there and meet
Ben Carson. So when I got to Trump Towers, I
went in, sat down to meet with him, and he said,
why are you here. I said, I want to meet
Ben Carson because I have an idea. He got Ben
Carson on the phone, being Ben Carson talked right away.
(02:35):
I told him the idea I had. I wanted to
take some of these schools that they had destroyed and
shut down in black neighborhoods, and I wanted to take
them and turn them into what I call Vision centers,
where we would create financial literacy after school programs, you know,
and get these young cats off the streets so they
(02:55):
have something to do, and then give the parents some
financial literacy. He fell in love with the idea. I
leave the building. I'm on the elevator. Donald Trump say
I'll ride down with you. I said, I beat damn.
So he gets on the elevator. He riding down with him. Now,
(03:16):
before I got on elevator, I told the reporters I'll
be back over and tell you why I'm here. I
walk up to the reporters. He walks in front of me.
He the president, to be right, So he walks.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
In front of me. Now I'm standing there. First word
out his mouth.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
Was we gonna repeal and replace Obamacare.
Speaker 5 (03:35):
I didn't say shit about that. I didn't mention none
of that. Then, oh, what you're talking about? Man?
Speaker 4 (03:43):
You know what I'm saying. I'm sitting here going I'll
beat damn. And all I heard was my wife going,
don't go up there yet. So when he left, I
stood up and told the reporters what the deal was.
By the time I got to my car, because this happen,
and on my sixtieth birthday was that weekend, my wife
(04:04):
had a nice trip for me. All I had to
do was go get on that damn boat, like she said,
That's all my ass had to do. But oh, knew
I'm gonna go up here for black people before.
Speaker 5 (04:17):
I got in the car. I couldn't believe it. I
couldn't believe it.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
Man. I was a coon, I was a jigaboot, I
was a spook. I was an Uncle Tom. And that
shit hurt me to the core because all I do
when I wake up is walk out the door as
a black man, to represent the black culture, to be
(04:46):
something that some young person can look at.
Speaker 5 (04:48):
And go, yeah, I do it that way.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
My whole hustling grind has been for black people.
Speaker 5 (04:54):
And so it kind of hurt me.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Man.
Speaker 5 (04:57):
And so his.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
Fast forward turns out the Vision Centers was the only
initiative Ben Carson had his entire run. They changed the
name of it from Vision Centers to Vision Centers. You
can go online look them up. They opened up three
of them, all the ideas I had given them, they
(05:21):
enabled it. Then they asked me to come take a
picture with being Carson in front of the schools, and
I said na, because y'all had ate my ass up
so bad before. Y'all ain't getting no more pictures of me.
My family got attacked and all this here.
Speaker 5 (05:38):
But that was a.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
Hurtful moment for me because I went up there to
get housing and benefit for black people and then they
turned on me like that, you know, But I always
know how to hang in there. You know. It's kind
of like, I know it's a lot of hip hop
casts in here, but old school music still registers very
deep in my I'm an R and B guy. So
(06:01):
there's a song that Temptations had out, and I had
to sing it to myself. I know you won't leave me,
but I refuse to let you go. If I have
to beg and plead for your.
Speaker 5 (06:14):
Sympathy, I don't mind, because you mean that much to me.
So I just hung in there with black people.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
I just stayed in that with y'all's asked because I
knew eventually y'all was gonna have to get all right.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
Well, some of y'all didn't. But it's cool though, But.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
I want to ask you about that because when you
reach levels of success, especially now, you're gonna get some
level of hate online. You're gonna get some level of
hate on YouTube, You're gonna get critics, and it has
it has an effect on your on your psyche.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
So how would you how would you coach people through?
Speaker 2 (06:53):
What advice would you give to the young people that
haven't experienced that yet. But they might be in sports,
they might be in music, they might be entrepreneur, they
might be online at some point when that comes, what
do you do to just keep going?
Speaker 4 (07:06):
It's interesting because I was talking to Walker Flocker backstage
and he came up to me and said, hey, man,
you don't know what you mean to me. I've never
met the brother before and he was saying, you don't
know what you mean to me.
Speaker 5 (07:20):
He said, Man, I follow you. I listened to you. Man.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
He said, man, you changed from just a comedian to
a real man, and you made me start looking at
some things I want to do. And then we shook hands.
He was fitting to walk away and he turned around.
He said, you know what else I like about you? Man?
You ain't vengeful. You're not vengeful. And that kind of
stuck with me, so I said, how you mean? He said, man,
(07:45):
you could come back at so many people. But I
don't never see you going out to attack people because
I learned a long time ago from a minister. He said,
stay on the wall. When they throwing rocks at you,
stay on wall. If you come down off the wall
to address haters and small people see they eye level
(08:07):
with you.
Speaker 5 (08:08):
Now. Now they can.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
Throw the rocks and they hurt. But if you just
stay on the wall, what can they do.
Speaker 5 (08:14):
And you gotta.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
Understand some young people about haters. Haters are not decision makers,
power brokers, or shakers and movers. They have no determining
factor on your life, where you headed, or what God
planned for you.
Speaker 5 (08:28):
Stop giving haters power.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Stop it.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
Don't even talk to they ass I don't give it. Look, man,
I'm sixty five. I don't give a damn what you
say about me.
Speaker 5 (08:39):
You ain't.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
You're not stopping nothing. Look what God has for you,
it is yours. All God's plans for you, his purpose.
If you just open up yourself to them, he gonna
make all of them come true. But if you stop
and keep addressing haters, you will never be open to
(09:00):
your purpose and your mission in life.
Speaker 5 (09:02):
So my directive is to stay on the wall.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
When they attacked me for whatever, I stay on the
wall because they do it all the time, man, especially people.
Speaker 5 (09:12):
I thought I was cool with other celebrities.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
You know, they got little stuff to say, But then
I look at their career and they.
Speaker 5 (09:19):
Have time to say little stuff. They have time. See.
Let me tell you something, man, People is busy. They
ain't got time.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
Denzel ain't got time talk about me, Magic.
Speaker 5 (09:35):
Johnson ain't got time talking about Tyler Perry.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
Ain't got time talk about me because they building their empire. Man,
let me tell you something, man. One time I was
sitting to respond to something on the blog. Tyler Perry
called me and said, hey, man, what you getting ready
to do. I said, I'm going on CNN with Anderson
Cooper and I'm straighten this whole thing out in them blogs.
Speaker 5 (09:57):
He said, no, you're not. He said.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
You know why, He said, listen to me, Steve. When
they talk about you, it's a blog. If you open
your mouth, it's a press conference. You got to know
who you are. So I say to all people out there,
know who you are and know where God taking you.
Speaker 5 (10:17):
Get up on the wall and stay there. That's powerful Erness.
What's up?
Speaker 1 (10:29):
You ever walk into a small business and everything just
works like the checkout is fast, or seats are digital,
tipping is a breeze and you're out the door before
the line even builds odds are they're using Square. We
love supporting businesses that run on Square because it just
feels seamless. Whether it's a local coffee shop, a vendor
at a pop up market, or even one.
Speaker 5 (10:50):
Of our merch partners.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Square makes it easy for them to take payments, manage inventory,
and run their business with confidence, all from one simple system.
One of the things we love most is seeing neighborhood
businesses level up. Disnes's West Indian Spired writing our community
that started with a small takeout counter. Now with Square,
they've been able to expand into a full sit down
(11:12):
restaurant and even started catering events across the city. That's
the kind of growth that inspires us, and it's powered
by Square. Square is built for all types of businesses,
from the corner bagel shop that turned into a local chain,
to the specialty market with thousands of unique items, to
the stylists who's been holding you down for years. If
(11:32):
you're a business owner or even just thinking about launching
something soon, Square is hands down one of the best
tools out there to help you start, run, and grow.
It's not just about payments, it's about giving you time
back so you can focus on what matters most ready.
To see how Square can transform your business, visit Square
dot com backslash, go backslash eyl to learn more that
(11:56):
Square dot com backslash, go backslash eyo, don't wait, don't hesitate.
Let's Square handle the back end so you can keep
pushing your vision forward.
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