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November 16, 2021 37 min

What does courage look like in the face of the impossible? Cindy McCain had a front row seat to history, as wife of Arizona Senator and presidential candidate John McCain. In this conversation, Kate and Cindy discuss:

  • The two-for-one careers that cost both spouses
  • John McCain the Stand-Up-Comedian (and how humor is the best medicine...but also real medicine is probably better)
  • What it was like to grieve on a public stage and her best advice for those experiencing loss

  • Together, we will discover how courage comes in many forms. The big and bold. The small and steady. Those who look pain and fear directly in the eye. Kate ends with a Blessing for the Brave. Perhaps, we can all gain a bit more courage after listening to this one.

    CW: glioblastoma, death of a spouse, addiction

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