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May 28, 2026 โ€ข 52 mins

When climate wins happen, we often credit the market. Or the policy. But is philanthropy the most underappreciated force in the climate fight? And can less than 2% of global giving actually change anything?


Behind the headlines, people like Jennifer Kitt of Climate Lead are identifying where finite resources can be spent in order to make a real difference, and helping to grow the pie. Tom Rivett-Carnac, Christiana Figueres, and Paul Dickinson sit down with her to ask: what does well-targeted philanthropic money actually unlock? Who decides where it goes? And why, when it works, do we so rarely notice? From the coalition that quietly accelerated the EV transition by decades, to the $30,000 grant that helped take climate responsibility all the way to the World's Court.


The uncomfortable truth is that climate action is becoming reliant on the generosity of a wealthy few. The good news is that this money is growing; the bad news is that it needs to grow much, much more. So how much would it take to start solving some of tomorrow’s problems today? And are there risks in expecting a small and privileged group to fund a movement that belongs to everyone?


Learn More:

๐ŸŒฑ Learn more about Climate Lead and and their work advising philanthropists new to climate giving

โš–๏ธ Catch up on the ICJ advisory opinion on climate obligations of states

โšก Explore the Drive Electric Campaign, the global NGO coalition whose story Jennifer tells in the episode 

๐ŸŒ Learn more about ClientEarth and the legal battles Tom references

๐Ÿ“Š Track progress on climate transitions with the Systems Change Lab, referenced by Jennifer in the episode

๐Ÿ“บ Read about the Trump AI video throwing Stephen Colbert in a dumpster, posted and reposted by the White House the day after the Late Show ended, via The Hill


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Producer: Ben Weaver-Hincks

Edited by: Miles Martignoni 

Planning: Caitlin Hanrahan 

Exec Producer: Ellie Clifford


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