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Timestamps:
0:00 – Intro
2:09 – Inflation & the U.S. affordability crisis
5:12 – Bitcoin vs. Gold
6:27 – Wall Street’s role in bitcoin and nation-state adoption
10:59 – Bitcoin as payments vs. store of value
12:56 – Stablecoins relationship to bitcoin
16:52 – Censorship, de-banking & financial freedom
21:16 – Banks & bitcoin reserves
22:42 – Media coverage of bitcoin and how to fix broken incentives
27:36 – “Bitcoin Is For Everyone”
33:20 – How to measure inflation
35:47 – The money printer mountain
37:26 – Who is Satoshi? Does it matter?
38:45 – Selling the book and closing remarks
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