November 16, 2025 • 19 mins
Michael might be the first housemate evicted from Big Brother 2025 but he’s definitely not the most forgettable. In this episode, Ben catches up with the self-described “professional pot-stirrer” fresh from the house, bacon in hand and emails exploding, to unpack how it all went so wrong so fast after he copped 13 points in that brutal first nomination and Australia sent him packing.
Michael opens up about being cast to fill the “older villain” box, those MAFS intruder rumours, why he never toned down his opinions for the 24/7 live stream, and how his daughter reacted to seeing him on TV (including her friends now calling him a “DILF”). He also shares his unfiltered take on Holly and Colin’s 'showmance,' why he thinks Holly and Jane are “content machines” the show can’t afford to lose and whether Big Brother has gone soft compared to the old days.
Plus, Ben and Michael talk about who’s really running the game, who’s in the most danger next, and why Michael’s money is still on Emily (and maybe Vinnie) to make it all the way to the end.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's in the news today, but it was actually on
TV Reload the podcast last week Their Life. Yeaday, guys,
welcome back to TV Reload. We are kicking off Big
Brother twenty twenty five with a bang. Last night, Big
Brother shocked the house when he declared Michael, it's time
to go inside the house. He was their professional potsturer
who never held back on people, politics, or anything in between.
(00:23):
His opinions rubbed a few housemates the wrong way. He
copped thirteen nomination points in the brutal first vote, and
his rank the housemates by intelligence task has already become
one of the most talked about moments of the season.
But while Australia was voting him out, I was publicly
tipping him to be the winner, and my social media
has absolutely blown down with people telling me how wrong
(00:45):
I was. Michael reckons he's just a puff of hot
air stirring up trouble, and even the housemates themselves who
nominated him would already be regretting that decision. In today's
episode of the podcast, you will hear Michael open up
about being cast to fill the older villain box those
married at first sight in Truder Rumors why he thinks
that Holly and Jane are content machines and how the
(01:08):
show can't afford to lose them, and what he really
makes of Holly's show. MAT's with Colin. We will talk
about the return of twenty four to seven live streaming,
why he thinks Big Brother has gone a bit soft,
how his daughter even reacted to him being on television,
including her friends who now think he's a bit of
a delf. Anyway, we'll get into that, and his surprising
(01:28):
tip for who is actually going to win Big Brother
twenty twenty five. So, guys, let's get into the chat
and welcome Michael to TV reload. Hello, Hello, Hello, Hey Michael.
How are you.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
I'm good, I'm free.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Yeah, I can imagine or you know what it's like,
right I do, I do? But like, first things first,
I want to ask you how you're feeling waking up
this morning as the first Big Brother housemate evicted for
twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Well, when you say it like that Earth House made
a victor, that feels a bit you know, that feels
a bit shitty. Let's be real, But like I've got
no problems being evicted. I never really thought I was
going to win the show being a forty nine year
old man, but I was hoping not to be first out.
I won't lie. That kind of sucks. But look, there's
a silver ligning. I'm sitting here staring at a plate
full of bacon, checking my emails, talking to you, and
(02:20):
you know what it's like in there. You get cabin fever,
You're revisiting conversations you don't really want to have. Like,
so there is that silver lining.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
I will tell you to make you feel a little
bit better. But my social media is blowing up because
publicly I picked you as the winner of this season
of Big Brother, and I posted last night not me
picking Michael to be the winner of Big Brother and
watching him being eliminated. And I think it's over like
two thousand responses at the moment this morning with people
telling me that I was wrong.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Well you were. I'm sorry. I'll let you down. You
didn't put your money on it.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
I did not, but you did let me down, So
we have I have a little little bone to pick
with you, But that's okay, that's okay.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Of those two thousand come and how many of them
hate me and how many of them love me? Is
it ninety percent hate.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Well, I just think that you've polarized a lot of
people in the country, and I think you and I
are very similar people in some ways. I think there's
some similar attributes. And I just felt if you'd survived
the first week, I could imagine peeling the onion with
you a little bit more, and I could see I
could see more with you.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
I don't know, you know, well, I thought the same,
even people like me are and Coco and people who
would have nominated me in the first week that would
not have been nominating me today. So if I'd have
survived last night, I reckon I could have. I would
have gone five, six, seven more evictions.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
I think you were on the money with that.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Yeah, yeah, but I didn't you know, you know, you
say we've got similar attributes. So if you go in
there and you're opinionated and you've only got two days
before the first nomination, you're going to get nominated three
days later. Everyone realizes I'm just a puffer hot air
that's stirring shit. And I actually quite liked me, and
Coco said that, yeah, she nominated me, and then in
the end was like, wish I hadn't.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
I don't want you to go.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Did the producers temperature check you on being the ale
of the series, because I got this feeling like they
took you to like the petrol station and filled you
up on petrol to be the villain this season. Do
you think there's some truth in that? Or do you
think that who we saw on the show is legitimately
you or it.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Is legitimately me, you know, Watson All. Sorry, Sorry that
offends some people, but that is me. Like I said,
I'm not as convicted in my opinions as I kind
of make out like Live and Let Live. You know,
but you've got to be a certain way on Big Brother.
You know, you've got to hold your own. But no,
I mean they didn't tell me to watch a certain way.
But I was certainly chosen to fill that box. Okay,
you know the say made me a filled a box
(04:34):
and Hollyfield of the Ditsy Box and Colin Field the
lark and Box. You know, I feeled the annoying right
wing older guy box and we all had our little niche.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Well you played it well, you played it well.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Was great. I want to disappoint Big Brother, you know,
because I know that some people went in there and
would have said they were going to do certain things
and haven't.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
And then they slept through the whole series. From the
reaction though, from your eviction, checking your emails which is
now going to need to be put on a T
shirt or made a meme or talking to your friends,
do you think Australia saw you as the person that
your friends and family see you?
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Was? Yeah, my friends and family weren't surprised by anything.
If anything, my daughter was surprised that I was a
little bit toned down.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
He was worried she's going in year twelve next year.
It was like, Dad, I don't want to change schools.
How bad he is just going to get Please don't
think he's supid. So she was the first person I
rang and she was fine. She's like, oh no, Dad,
you were fine. If someone my friends even think you're
a dil, so there you go. So it turned out
it turned into a positive.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Put that on a T shirt instead of the other thing.
I said, you seemed to be an odd choice for
big brother. I'm just going to say this because and
then this morning, when I was saying that to a
few other journalists, they were like, have you read the
article that originally he was supposed to be a maths intruder,
and I that's the first I've heard about it, Like,
maybe it's a rumor, but can you offer me some
(05:53):
perspective on that?
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Well, firstly, I don't think I was a not choice
because in this day and age of diversity, they kind
of needed to kick every body. So they needed to
have an older guy, the older woman, you know, all colors,
all sexualities. They kind of needed that, right.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Well, I might offer you some clarity on that then,
because I think what I'm trying to say is that
you might have been better on a different show.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Well, no, I think Big Brother suited me. So originally
I was sort of sort of steering towards Matt about
a year ago. And you know, with three kids on
the outside, being forced into a bed with a woman
you don't know, it's a little bit daunting.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
So instead you'd prefer to sleep with twelve other complete
strangers in a house.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Yeah, but in separate bed. Yeah, I get separate bed.
Going into a house and talking shit. I mean, that's
that's more me than being forced into a fake relationship
like holy holy in Golin. Yeah, you know this is
basically what maths is. Yeah, don't know when you know?
When I you know, the opportunity to be brother came up,
I went in auditioned, I chatted, and I think they
decided then and there that I would have that I
(06:49):
filled that kind of villainous role, I guess, but no,
they certainly didn't steer me towards being villainous. So I
am who I am and was probably chosen.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Okay, you're a baddie. That's what you are.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
You're a baddy In realized I didn't a lot of Sorry,
people hate me for that, but that is that I
am in my day to day life.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
What about this having a media career, because you know,
something like twenty thousand maybe more. I'm probably deflating that number,
but applied for this season of Big Brother and a
lot of them were turned away being told they had
a media career. Do you think that was a hindrance?
And did you have a conversation about maybe that clause
with producers when you were being casked.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Oh, it was. It was completely open. Everyone knew what
was going on. Nothing was hidden. I mean, it's hard
to hide that I'd run my own media business. Yeah,
people are what you do. I can't say I drive
a truck.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
So well, most men in the country have probably bought
the magazine.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Most of our publications children's magazines. I think I should
have pumped at all through kids mates. Been that demographic
could actually vote as soon as they see my head
dy a gluten for it, right, So.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Well, I would have voted for you. So that's I mean.
I'm still going to rely. I'm going to ask you
some tough questions today. But I enjoy a robust housemate,
and I think that's what you offer. And you know,
I made this public declaration of you, and people came
for me online and I'm still defending it. I like
somebody who's going to go in there and be truthful,
be themselves and stir up a bit of conversation. And
(08:09):
that's what is Big Brother to.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Men who knows what Big Brother has in store. I
could be back in there.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
In two weeks.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Well, this is very true.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
I'll not a clip at all. By the way, Hey, let's.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Start that rumor. We'll start it on my podcast.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
You don't know what Big Brother has in store, so
you know your money. Your money's still good until the
final winner is announced.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
That's all.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
I say that we all thought last night would be
a triple eviction. Maybe they've got to get rid of
sixteen people in the next few weeks. I mean, we're
not doing single evictions once a week, are we.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
I think there's some people in Australia that would have
been happy with all three of you going home. I mean,
I think that the three of you are the most
polarizing people in the house at the moment. But I
want to run this theory past you, because you're a
smart guy. Do you have a feeling that Jane and
Holly's time in the house was more controversial than yours,
therefore louder than yours, and that is the reason why
(08:57):
they're still in there, because they're content machines that maybe
the Big Brother House can't get rid of.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Oh. I think Holly's in there because of her romance
or foxmance or showmance with Colin and just the way
she played it. Plus she's a pretty girl and young
girls might just spoke for her to save her. I
knew it was going to be between Jane and myself.
I don't know what they played at the outside world,
but it is hard to get it. Word in with
those who winging the whole time. I won't, I won't lie.
(09:23):
I when Holly was in the diary room, felt like
all day she'd go in there just a power with
Big Brother and it's all to get more air time. Absolutely,
I didn't go into Big Brother a single time before
I was in calls Wow, you know, to discuss my
feelings or any of this bullshit.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Like, honestly, today it's all a ploy.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Why do you need to go and talk to Big
Brother in your real life? If you're having a tough day,
do you really need to go and sit down and
come on three times a day.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
I'm going to just tell you this right now. I
think I spoke to Big Brother ninety five times a day,
but that's because I'm an insecure nightmare and I needed
to go in there and ask him for validation. He
never gave it to me, which brings me to my
next point. Michael, I think that Big Brother is way
too easy this year. Like, here's the nicest Big Brother ever.
I'm watching him having giving little pep talks to housemates.
(10:09):
Back in the day, Big Brother was scary.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
That's authority worldwide.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
That's what's happened to the world and this is just
an example of it the world. You know, I'll get
in trouble for saying this, but I think the world's
become too tolerant. So you know, fifty years ago when
we're intolerant over everybody, now we're tolerant of absolutely everybody
and no one can do any wrong and everyone wins
a prize.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
And you know, it's all I hope you're okay.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
How are you going? Like amount of wellness checks you have,
you know, going in and you're going to be okay,
You're a you're going to do this?
Speaker 3 (10:36):
Have you ever had suicidal thought? This and that? Like
they really really want to make sure that you're not going.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
To you're not going to purt well. I mean this
is I think that that's great when it comes to
reality TV because you and I we could be thrown
to the wolves and we'd come back leading the pack
where there's going to be people out there that can
talk talk and not walk the walk and come out
of these shows really struggling. And I mean, I'm going
to go back to a conversation that you know we
alluded to before with Holly. Holly might be in there
(11:02):
getting a lot of screen time and stirring up a
lot of stuff. But I am a little bit scared
about what's the reaction going to be from her behalf
when she sees what Australia thinks.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Of her, Like Colin, yeah, you know we'posed as least
intelligent went in and cried and like, I don't know,
like part of me is like man, uh but then
you know, shit, they could be real problems behind that.
So you don't want to you know, you don't want
to be insensitive to it.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Well, I think one of my favorite moments of the
season so far has to be your conversation with melch
Rassina when she asked you about their relationship and how
long it's going to last on the outside and it's
fairly academic to I think to anyone watching the show
that she's using him. Is that? What do you think?
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Absolutely?
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Absolutely, like, yeah, a few people what I could do today.
It's a showman's it's a fox man however you want
to describe it. Yeah, it's completely a strategy and look
it works for Holly. So I hope you know, Holly
in only five minutes from each other, and we're planning
to catch up with the sheep or yeah we lived,
you know, both of the two minutes from Double Bait.
So we will catch up after this. So I hope
me saying all this stuff doesn't make her think I'm
(12:04):
just a you know, horrible person.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
No, I can tell. I can tell you'll be there
for her.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
But I'm going to be honest, like I think, I
think Olly's a great girl. But come on, she's playing
the game, and props to her, you know whatever. If
she wins from this strategy, then I got.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
No problem with it. Absolutely. If she's in there to win,
she's in there to win. I wasn't in there to win.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
I thought I had zero chance of winning, so I
was never going to try and win.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Why bother?
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Well, Holly getting the head of house, which is a
twist that is about to roll out and Australia will
get to watch this. Do you imagine that she is
just too hard to lose in terms of delivering content
and this is a twist to keep her in the
show for as long as possible.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
I know, No, this is a twist to piss everybody off.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Originally I thought I'll choose someone who will you know,
shop for the grocery as well.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
And originally I was thinking.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Of it more more sensibly, and then like a pulp
of blight, and I thought, now, hang, I want to
piss everyone off.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
I want to go out with the back.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
So I thought, who's the one person that no one
in the house will want to save? And it's definitely Holly.
Who's the one person in the house that nobody.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
Wants to listen to be spoken down to?
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Holly like, So she's a natural choice if you're trying
to create maximum mayhem, so perfect.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Do you think there's going to be something that will
keep her inside the house all the way to the end?
You rereck And there's going to be a lot of
twists and turns that are going to make it look
like she's going to get nominated and kicked down, But
she's going to keep on keeping on until right to
the end.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
No, No, she's next. She's next to go as soon
as that opportunity is available, or she'll certainly be nominated
every single week, So that's a matter of time. I
don't actually know how the boats went last night, and.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
How you know how close the boths well the tellyboards.
This is upsetting to Australia. Where's the tellyboard. We want
to know who was next in line? Well, why can't
we be seen?
Speaker 2 (13:44):
I was told it wasn't the landslide, That's all I
was told. It was not pretty close like I got
of the votes or anything. So there was there was
sort of genuine shock even from the Big Brother when
it was announced, Wow, it's going to be Jane L. Holly.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
How about this conversation that I think a lot of
people are talking about. This is the first time I've
seen twenty four to seven live stream, and you guys
were told that before going in, But I get the
feeling it's so addictive by the way, like everyone I
know is talking about it that's watched it once, they
can't stop watching it. Do you Are you all as
conscious of how much Australia is all watching every single
(14:16):
thing that you guys are saying.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Yeah, I think I think we are, and I think
for some people that makes a difference. For me, it
didn't really, I mean it certainly didn't make it make
a difference to me in.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Terms of my overall opinions.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Obviously, I'm not going to talk about I don't know
details about my ex wife or my divorce or my children.
Or whatever.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Yeah, but if I'm a tricked up yeah, in.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Terms of wider opinions, it didn't stop me talking at all.
But I can see people like Vinny younger people kind
of You know, when he's in a conversation with Bruce
and I about something topical, he does sit on the
periphery and wink and nod, and you.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Know he's worried about it. You're saying he's worried about it.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Well, he even said to me like, yeah, no, I
don't want to I don't want to get involved in
this conversation.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
But yeah, you know I kind of agree with that.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
You know, he's worried about not getting on home and
away and neighbors. Oh, I guess neighbors. Right.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
I thought it came back, didn't it.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
I think it's gone again. I mean if it does
come back, then he's getting the first phone call. Right.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
Well, I thought it came back to the UK. Yeah,
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Vinnie is such a great blake, and what a pretty
pretty boy if they're pretty boy in a bad way,
no good look with an electric smile.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
I love him.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
He's great and he cuts a wicked haircut too.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
Well, this is the thing I mean, you know, and
I'm sure plenty of these housemates have still got secrets
to go. I've run out of time, but I just
want to ask you some very quick, rapid fire questions
that are very fast, only four of them. Who is
the smartest person in the house Connor? Well with Connor
and his turettes? Are people ever upset by any of that?
Or are they very accommodating to his illness?
Speaker 3 (15:45):
Not upset with his turette?
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Yeah, set with his flying off the handle which could
be associated with his turets, But no, no one, no
one was offended by his out First, we all was
kind a bit of a giggle and he was happy
for us to have the giggle.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
She was good, Well, he's used to it, he's living.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
We didn't feel like we're a lad to laugh because,
you know, because it is funny. Let's face it, it's
funny that Stuffy says is a hilarious.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Well, we take Hollie off the table. So we're going
to ask you who gets eliminated next.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Wow, Jane, Jane, I think j might go.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Because don't you think that? Like I know a lot
of people online have been calling Lan's tim Chrissie Swan
and maybe Christis one might be in the game for
a while.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Yeah, maybe, but she does rub people up the wrong way.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
Christy did too, didn't you, little bit? Yes, she's opinionated.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Yeah, look, it's so hard to say, like you said,
you said you thought I was going to win, and
you were dead wrong.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
There no one's ever talking to me again about anything
to do with a big brother. They're like, you won,
what's advice do you have? And then they'll look at
my history, my report card down and they'll be like,
all right, remember when he said.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
About four I went in.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
I did this in the wrong order.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
I could talk to you forever. I'm so disappointed. This
is such a small period of time because the first
eliminated housemate I have a history with I Shane was
one of my closest friends in my season. She went first.
Sharon went in season twenty thirteen, and then Jemma six
foot six went after that, and now Michael, it's you.
So like I always think that the first evicted person
(17:08):
has a lot to say, and I'm sure at some
point people will be able to have that conversation with
you in longer form podcasts Because I think you do
have a lot to contribute about this kind of nation.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
I'm the only who can really say how it is right,
So yeah, that's the advantage.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
I'm seeing what's going on now. None of them are not,
so that's good.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Well, the last question I ask is who do you
think is going to win? Big Brother? So what do
you think?
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (17:30):
I think Emily just because she's just she can't be nominated.
I just can't see any way he could dominate her
and Big Brother would accept your nomination.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
She's not done a single bad thing, But.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Is she funny? The people are going to vote for
that in the end, Like, if she makes it to
the end, she'll be in a final three, and then
the final three they're not going to pick the person
who just managed to be lovely.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Yeah, well, I've got to take a punt. She's certainly
going to She's certainly going to get to the end.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
So she's the only person I can see.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Maybe Vinnie, he will definitely get to that final three
because she just won't be nominated. And then when it
comes down the public boat, who knows. She just reminds
me of Reggie Bird night.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
She's the modern day Reggie Bird, But even.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
That when she says things that are offensive, you kind
of go, oh, it's not.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Of I love it. There's other thing. I wasn't gonna
ask this, but it's because it's my podcast. I've never
not asked this questions how I finish it? What is
something from behind the scenes. I don't want to get
you into trouble with you know what you're not allowed
to say, So I thought a fun behind the scenes
question could be what did you think of the house?
Because people are saying, why is there a roof that
looks like a TV set this year? What's your impression
(18:32):
of what it was like to live inside there?
Speaker 2 (18:35):
I think everything was great. I mean obviously they rushing
new food house, the fantastic all the amenities were there,
and just.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
In general, Big Brother, all the crew, production, everything was
top notched.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
I was super coming to media myself, just coming, you know,
going into a production like that pen and how professional
I was was. I was very impressed by the entire thing.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Well, Michael, I think that you are a very memorable housemate.
I think they'll be people looking back at this series
and they will be remembering you over some of the
other people that may go in the middle of this season.
So congratulations on bringing something that people have talked about.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Oh mate, it's my pleasure.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
I'm happy to give it up.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
I've got that many dramas in my business. I was
happy to turn my pone.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Off for a week or three and was there actually
one hundred thousand emails.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
Mostly bullshit media release.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Well, I'm in your audience, mate. Good luck with chatting
to the media today. I hope they're not too mean
to you because of being a robust housemate. But just remember,
you know, for every one person out there that might
say something negative to you online, there's one hundred people
out there that love you.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Okay, I will remember that.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
It's been pretty fine.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
I'll enjoyed the bacon, and I will talk to you again,
I'm sure another time.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Thank you, Cheers anytime.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Yeah, cheers, buddy. Look after yourself.
It's in the news today, but it was actually on
TV Reload the podcast last week Their Life. Yeaday, guys,
welcome back to TV Reload. We are kicking off Big
Brother twenty twenty five with a bang. Last night, Big
Brother shocked the house when he declared Michael, it's time
to go inside the house. He was their professional potsturer
who never held back on people, politics, or anything in between.
(00:23):
His opinions rubbed a few housemates the wrong way. He
copped thirteen nomination points in the brutal first vote, and
his rank the housemates by intelligence task has already become
one of the most talked about moments of the season.
But while Australia was voting him out, I was publicly
tipping him to be the winner, and my social media
has absolutely blown down with people telling me how wrong
(00:45):
I was. Michael reckons he's just a puff of hot
air stirring up trouble, and even the housemates themselves who
nominated him would already be regretting that decision. In today's
episode of the podcast, you will hear Michael open up
about being cast to fill the older villain box those
married at first sight in Truder Rumors why he thinks
that Holly and Jane are content machines and how the
(01:08):
show can't afford to lose them, and what he really
makes of Holly's show. MAT's with Colin. We will talk
about the return of twenty four to seven live streaming,
why he thinks Big Brother has gone a bit soft,
how his daughter even reacted to him being on television,
including her friends who now think he's a bit of
a delf. Anyway, we'll get into that, and his surprising
(01:28):
tip for who is actually going to win Big Brother
twenty twenty five. So, guys, let's get into the chat
and welcome Michael to TV reload. Hello, Hello, Hello, Hey Michael.
How are you.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
I'm good, I'm free.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Yeah, I can imagine or you know what it's like,
right I do, I do? But like, first things first,
I want to ask you how you're feeling waking up
this morning as the first Big Brother housemate evicted for
twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Well, when you say it like that Earth House made
a victor, that feels a bit you know, that feels
a bit shitty. Let's be real, But like I've got
no problems being evicted. I never really thought I was
going to win the show being a forty nine year
old man, but I was hoping not to be first out.
I won't lie. That kind of sucks. But look, there's
a silver ligning. I'm sitting here staring at a plate
full of bacon, checking my emails, talking to you, and
(02:20):
you know what it's like in there. You get cabin fever,
You're revisiting conversations you don't really want to have. Like,
so there is that silver lining.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
I will tell you to make you feel a little
bit better. But my social media is blowing up because
publicly I picked you as the winner of this season
of Big Brother, and I posted last night not me
picking Michael to be the winner of Big Brother and
watching him being eliminated. And I think it's over like
two thousand responses at the moment this morning with people
telling me that I was wrong.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Well you were. I'm sorry. I'll let you down. You
didn't put your money on it.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
I did not, but you did let me down, So
we have I have a little little bone to pick
with you, But that's okay, that's okay.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Of those two thousand come and how many of them
hate me and how many of them love me? Is
it ninety percent hate.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Well, I just think that you've polarized a lot of
people in the country, and I think you and I
are very similar people in some ways. I think there's
some similar attributes. And I just felt if you'd survived
the first week, I could imagine peeling the onion with
you a little bit more, and I could see I
could see more with you.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
I don't know, you know, well, I thought the same,
even people like me are and Coco and people who
would have nominated me in the first week that would
not have been nominating me today. So if I'd have
survived last night, I reckon I could have. I would
have gone five, six, seven more evictions.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
I think you were on the money with that.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Yeah, yeah, but I didn't you know, you know, you
say we've got similar attributes. So if you go in
there and you're opinionated and you've only got two days
before the first nomination, you're going to get nominated three
days later. Everyone realizes I'm just a puffer hot air
that's stirring shit. And I actually quite liked me, and
Coco said that, yeah, she nominated me, and then in
the end was like, wish I hadn't.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
I don't want you to go.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Did the producers temperature check you on being the ale
of the series, because I got this feeling like they
took you to like the petrol station and filled you
up on petrol to be the villain this season. Do
you think there's some truth in that? Or do you
think that who we saw on the show is legitimately
you or it.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Is legitimately me, you know, Watson All. Sorry, Sorry that
offends some people, but that is me. Like I said,
I'm not as convicted in my opinions as I kind
of make out like Live and Let Live. You know,
but you've got to be a certain way on Big Brother.
You know, you've got to hold your own. But no,
I mean they didn't tell me to watch a certain way.
But I was certainly chosen to fill that box. Okay,
you know the say made me a filled a box
(04:34):
and Hollyfield of the Ditsy Box and Colin Field the
lark and Box. You know, I feeled the annoying right
wing older guy box and we all had our little niche.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Well you played it well, you played it well.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Was great. I want to disappoint Big Brother, you know,
because I know that some people went in there and
would have said they were going to do certain things
and haven't.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
And then they slept through the whole series. From the
reaction though, from your eviction, checking your emails which is
now going to need to be put on a T
shirt or made a meme or talking to your friends,
do you think Australia saw you as the person that
your friends and family see you?
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Was? Yeah, my friends and family weren't surprised by anything.
If anything, my daughter was surprised that I was a
little bit toned down.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
He was worried she's going in year twelve next year.
It was like, Dad, I don't want to change schools.
How bad he is just going to get Please don't
think he's supid. So she was the first person I
rang and she was fine. She's like, oh no, Dad,
you were fine. If someone my friends even think you're
a dil, so there you go. So it turned out
it turned into a positive.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Put that on a T shirt instead of the other thing.
I said, you seemed to be an odd choice for
big brother. I'm just going to say this because and
then this morning, when I was saying that to a
few other journalists, they were like, have you read the
article that originally he was supposed to be a maths intruder,
and I that's the first I've heard about it, Like,
maybe it's a rumor, but can you offer me some
(05:53):
perspective on that?
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Well, firstly, I don't think I was a not choice
because in this day and age of diversity, they kind
of needed to kick every body. So they needed to
have an older guy, the older woman, you know, all colors,
all sexualities. They kind of needed that, right.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Well, I might offer you some clarity on that then,
because I think what I'm trying to say is that
you might have been better on a different show.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Well, no, I think Big Brother suited me. So originally
I was sort of sort of steering towards Matt about
a year ago. And you know, with three kids on
the outside, being forced into a bed with a woman
you don't know, it's a little bit daunting.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
So instead you'd prefer to sleep with twelve other complete
strangers in a house.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Yeah, but in separate bed. Yeah, I get separate bed.
Going into a house and talking shit. I mean, that's
that's more me than being forced into a fake relationship
like holy holy in Golin. Yeah, you know this is
basically what maths is. Yeah, don't know when you know?
When I you know, the opportunity to be brother came up,
I went in auditioned, I chatted, and I think they
decided then and there that I would have that I
(06:49):
filled that kind of villainous role, I guess, but no,
they certainly didn't steer me towards being villainous. So I
am who I am and was probably chosen.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Okay, you're a baddie. That's what you are.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
You're a baddy In realized I didn't a lot of Sorry,
people hate me for that, but that is that I
am in my day to day life.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
What about this having a media career, because you know,
something like twenty thousand maybe more. I'm probably deflating that number,
but applied for this season of Big Brother and a
lot of them were turned away being told they had
a media career. Do you think that was a hindrance?
And did you have a conversation about maybe that clause
with producers when you were being casked.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Oh, it was. It was completely open. Everyone knew what
was going on. Nothing was hidden. I mean, it's hard
to hide that I'd run my own media business. Yeah,
people are what you do. I can't say I drive
a truck.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
So well, most men in the country have probably bought
the magazine.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Most of our publications children's magazines. I think I should
have pumped at all through kids mates. Been that demographic
could actually vote as soon as they see my head
dy a gluten for it, right, So.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Well, I would have voted for you. So that's I mean.
I'm still going to rely. I'm going to ask you
some tough questions today. But I enjoy a robust housemate,
and I think that's what you offer. And you know,
I made this public declaration of you, and people came
for me online and I'm still defending it. I like
somebody who's going to go in there and be truthful,
be themselves and stir up a bit of conversation. And
(08:09):
that's what is Big Brother to.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Men who knows what Big Brother has in store. I
could be back in there.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
In two weeks.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Well, this is very true.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
I'll not a clip at all. By the way, Hey, let's.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Start that rumor. We'll start it on my podcast.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
You don't know what Big Brother has in store, so
you know your money. Your money's still good until the
final winner is announced.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
That's all.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
I say that we all thought last night would be
a triple eviction. Maybe they've got to get rid of
sixteen people in the next few weeks. I mean, we're
not doing single evictions once a week, are we.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
I think there's some people in Australia that would have
been happy with all three of you going home. I mean,
I think that the three of you are the most
polarizing people in the house at the moment. But I
want to run this theory past you, because you're a
smart guy. Do you have a feeling that Jane and
Holly's time in the house was more controversial than yours,
therefore louder than yours, and that is the reason why
(08:57):
they're still in there, because they're content machines that maybe
the Big Brother House can't get rid of.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Oh. I think Holly's in there because of her romance
or foxmance or showmance with Colin and just the way
she played it. Plus she's a pretty girl and young
girls might just spoke for her to save her. I
knew it was going to be between Jane and myself.
I don't know what they played at the outside world,
but it is hard to get it. Word in with
those who winging the whole time. I won't, I won't lie.
(09:23):
I when Holly was in the diary room, felt like
all day she'd go in there just a power with
Big Brother and it's all to get more air time. Absolutely,
I didn't go into Big Brother a single time before
I was in calls Wow, you know, to discuss my
feelings or any of this bullshit.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Like, honestly, today it's all a ploy.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Why do you need to go and talk to Big
Brother in your real life? If you're having a tough day,
do you really need to go and sit down and
come on three times a day.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
I'm going to just tell you this right now. I
think I spoke to Big Brother ninety five times a day,
but that's because I'm an insecure nightmare and I needed
to go in there and ask him for validation. He
never gave it to me, which brings me to my
next point. Michael, I think that Big Brother is way
too easy this year. Like, here's the nicest Big Brother ever.
I'm watching him having giving little pep talks to housemates.
(10:09):
Back in the day, Big Brother was scary.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
That's authority worldwide.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
That's what's happened to the world and this is just
an example of it the world. You know, I'll get
in trouble for saying this, but I think the world's
become too tolerant. So you know, fifty years ago when
we're intolerant over everybody, now we're tolerant of absolutely everybody
and no one can do any wrong and everyone wins
a prize.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
And you know, it's all I hope you're okay.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
How are you going? Like amount of wellness checks you have,
you know, going in and you're going to be okay,
You're a you're going to do this?
Speaker 3 (10:36):
Have you ever had suicidal thought? This and that? Like
they really really want to make sure that you're not going.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
To you're not going to purt well. I mean this
is I think that that's great when it comes to
reality TV because you and I we could be thrown
to the wolves and we'd come back leading the pack
where there's going to be people out there that can
talk talk and not walk the walk and come out
of these shows really struggling. And I mean, I'm going
to go back to a conversation that you know we
alluded to before with Holly. Holly might be in there
(11:02):
getting a lot of screen time and stirring up a
lot of stuff. But I am a little bit scared
about what's the reaction going to be from her behalf
when she sees what Australia thinks.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Of her, Like Colin, yeah, you know we'posed as least
intelligent went in and cried and like, I don't know,
like part of me is like man, uh but then
you know, shit, they could be real problems behind that.
So you don't want to you know, you don't want
to be insensitive to it.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Well, I think one of my favorite moments of the
season so far has to be your conversation with melch
Rassina when she asked you about their relationship and how
long it's going to last on the outside and it's
fairly academic to I think to anyone watching the show
that she's using him. Is that? What do you think?
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Absolutely?
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Absolutely, like, yeah, a few people what I could do today.
It's a showman's it's a fox man however you want
to describe it. Yeah, it's completely a strategy and look
it works for Holly. So I hope you know, Holly
in only five minutes from each other, and we're planning
to catch up with the sheep or yeah we lived,
you know, both of the two minutes from Double Bait.
So we will catch up after this. So I hope
me saying all this stuff doesn't make her think I'm
(12:04):
just a you know, horrible person.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
No, I can tell. I can tell you'll be there
for her.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
But I'm going to be honest, like I think, I
think Olly's a great girl. But come on, she's playing
the game, and props to her, you know whatever. If
she wins from this strategy, then I got.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
No problem with it. Absolutely. If she's in there to win,
she's in there to win. I wasn't in there to win.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
I thought I had zero chance of winning, so I
was never going to try and win.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Why bother?
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Well, Holly getting the head of house, which is a
twist that is about to roll out and Australia will
get to watch this. Do you imagine that she is
just too hard to lose in terms of delivering content
and this is a twist to keep her in the
show for as long as possible.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
I know, No, this is a twist to piss everybody off.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Originally I thought I'll choose someone who will you know,
shop for the grocery as well.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
And originally I was thinking.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Of it more more sensibly, and then like a pulp
of blight, and I thought, now, hang, I want to
piss everyone off.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
I want to go out with the back.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
So I thought, who's the one person that no one
in the house will want to save? And it's definitely Holly.
Who's the one person in the house that nobody.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
Wants to listen to be spoken down to?
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Holly like, So she's a natural choice if you're trying
to create maximum mayhem, so perfect.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Do you think there's going to be something that will
keep her inside the house all the way to the end?
You rereck And there's going to be a lot of
twists and turns that are going to make it look
like she's going to get nominated and kicked down, But
she's going to keep on keeping on until right to
the end.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
No, No, she's next. She's next to go as soon
as that opportunity is available, or she'll certainly be nominated
every single week, So that's a matter of time. I
don't actually know how the boats went last night, and.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
How you know how close the boths well the tellyboards.
This is upsetting to Australia. Where's the tellyboard. We want
to know who was next in line? Well, why can't
we be seen?
Speaker 2 (13:44):
I was told it wasn't the landslide, That's all I
was told. It was not pretty close like I got
of the votes or anything. So there was there was
sort of genuine shock even from the Big Brother when
it was announced, Wow, it's going to be Jane L. Holly.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
How about this conversation that I think a lot of
people are talking about. This is the first time I've
seen twenty four to seven live stream, and you guys
were told that before going in, But I get the
feeling it's so addictive by the way, like everyone I
know is talking about it that's watched it once, they
can't stop watching it. Do you Are you all as
conscious of how much Australia is all watching every single
(14:16):
thing that you guys are saying.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Yeah, I think I think we are, and I think
for some people that makes a difference. For me, it
didn't really, I mean it certainly didn't make it make
a difference to me in.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Terms of my overall opinions.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Obviously, I'm not going to talk about I don't know
details about my ex wife or my divorce or my children.
Or whatever.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Yeah, but if I'm a tricked up yeah, in.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Terms of wider opinions, it didn't stop me talking at all.
But I can see people like Vinny younger people kind
of You know, when he's in a conversation with Bruce
and I about something topical, he does sit on the
periphery and wink and nod, and you.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Know he's worried about it. You're saying he's worried about it.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Well, he even said to me like, yeah, no, I
don't want to I don't want to get involved in
this conversation.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
But yeah, you know I kind of agree with that.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
You know, he's worried about not getting on home and
away and neighbors. Oh, I guess neighbors. Right.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
I thought it came back, didn't it.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
I think it's gone again. I mean if it does
come back, then he's getting the first phone call. Right.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
Well, I thought it came back to the UK. Yeah,
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Vinnie is such a great blake, and what a pretty
pretty boy if they're pretty boy in a bad way,
no good look with an electric smile.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
I love him.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
He's great and he cuts a wicked haircut too.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
Well, this is the thing I mean, you know, and
I'm sure plenty of these housemates have still got secrets
to go. I've run out of time, but I just
want to ask you some very quick, rapid fire questions
that are very fast, only four of them. Who is
the smartest person in the house Connor? Well with Connor
and his turettes? Are people ever upset by any of that?
Or are they very accommodating to his illness?
Speaker 3 (15:45):
Not upset with his turette?
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Yeah, set with his flying off the handle which could
be associated with his turets, But no, no one, no
one was offended by his out First, we all was
kind a bit of a giggle and he was happy
for us to have the giggle.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
She was good, Well, he's used to it, he's living.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
We didn't feel like we're a lad to laugh because,
you know, because it is funny. Let's face it, it's
funny that Stuffy says is a hilarious.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Well, we take Hollie off the table. So we're going
to ask you who gets eliminated next.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Wow, Jane, Jane, I think j might go.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Because don't you think that? Like I know a lot
of people online have been calling Lan's tim Chrissie Swan
and maybe Christis one might be in the game for
a while.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Yeah, maybe, but she does rub people up the wrong way.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
Christy did too, didn't you, little bit? Yes, she's opinionated.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Yeah, look, it's so hard to say, like you said,
you said you thought I was going to win, and
you were dead wrong.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
There no one's ever talking to me again about anything
to do with a big brother. They're like, you won,
what's advice do you have? And then they'll look at
my history, my report card down and they'll be like,
all right, remember when he said.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
About four I went in.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
I did this in the wrong order.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
I could talk to you forever. I'm so disappointed. This
is such a small period of time because the first
eliminated housemate I have a history with I Shane was
one of my closest friends in my season. She went first.
Sharon went in season twenty thirteen, and then Jemma six
foot six went after that, and now Michael, it's you.
So like I always think that the first evicted person
(17:08):
has a lot to say, and I'm sure at some
point people will be able to have that conversation with
you in longer form podcasts Because I think you do
have a lot to contribute about this kind of nation.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
I'm the only who can really say how it is right,
So yeah, that's the advantage.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
I'm seeing what's going on now. None of them are not,
so that's good.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Well, the last question I ask is who do you
think is going to win? Big Brother? So what do
you think?
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (17:30):
I think Emily just because she's just she can't be nominated.
I just can't see any way he could dominate her
and Big Brother would accept your nomination.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
She's not done a single bad thing, But.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Is she funny? The people are going to vote for
that in the end, Like, if she makes it to
the end, she'll be in a final three, and then
the final three they're not going to pick the person
who just managed to be lovely.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Yeah, well, I've got to take a punt. She's certainly
going to She's certainly going to get to the end.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
So she's the only person I can see.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Maybe Vinnie, he will definitely get to that final three
because she just won't be nominated. And then when it
comes down the public boat, who knows. She just reminds
me of Reggie Bird night.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
She's the modern day Reggie Bird, But even.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
That when she says things that are offensive, you kind
of go, oh, it's not.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Of I love it. There's other thing. I wasn't gonna
ask this, but it's because it's my podcast. I've never
not asked this questions how I finish it? What is
something from behind the scenes. I don't want to get
you into trouble with you know what you're not allowed
to say, So I thought a fun behind the scenes
question could be what did you think of the house?
Because people are saying, why is there a roof that
looks like a TV set this year? What's your impression
(18:32):
of what it was like to live inside there?
Speaker 2 (18:35):
I think everything was great. I mean obviously they rushing
new food house, the fantastic all the amenities were there,
and just.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
In general, Big Brother, all the crew, production, everything was
top notched.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
I was super coming to media myself, just coming, you know,
going into a production like that pen and how professional
I was was. I was very impressed by the entire thing.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Well, Michael, I think that you are a very memorable housemate.
I think they'll be people looking back at this series
and they will be remembering you over some of the
other people that may go in the middle of this season.
So congratulations on bringing something that people have talked about.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Oh mate, it's my pleasure.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
I'm happy to give it up.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
I've got that many dramas in my business. I was
happy to turn my pone.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Off for a week or three and was there actually
one hundred thousand emails.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
Mostly bullshit media release.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Well, I'm in your audience, mate. Good luck with chatting
to the media today. I hope they're not too mean
to you because of being a robust housemate. But just remember,
you know, for every one person out there that might
say something negative to you online, there's one hundred people
out there that love you.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Okay, I will remember that.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
It's been pretty fine.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
I'll enjoyed the bacon, and I will talk to you again,
I'm sure another time.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Thank you, Cheers anytime.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Yeah, cheers, buddy. Look after yourself.
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