November 7, 2025 • 17 mins
Episode Synopsis: Leo Suter. Inside Britbox's New Crime Drama ‘Lynley’
In this episode of TV Reload, Ben Norris chats with British actor Leo Suter, star of Britbox brand-new detective drama Lynley, which premieres today on Britbox Box.
Best known for his breakout roles in Vikings: Valhalla and Sanditon, Leo takes on the iconic role of Detective Inspector Thomas Lynley. A sharp, aristocratic investigator whose personal struggles are as complex as the crimes he solves.
Leo opens up about the challenge of reinventing a beloved literary detective for a new generation, the psychology behind Lynley’s calm intensity, and the on-set chemistry that brings this gripping reimagining to life.
Set against the backdrop of the English countryside, Lynley promises a blend of style, suspense, and emotional storytelling that fans of Broadchurch and Happy Valley will devour.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's in the news today, but it was actually on
TV reload the podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
US deep their line.
Speaker 1 (00:04):
Welcome back to TV RIALO. My name is Benjamin Norris
and I am your host today and I'll be chatting
to British actor Leo Sutter, who is stepping into a
familiar territory a genre that I absolutely love, mystery, murder
and moody countrysides. Known for his role in Vikings Valhalla,
which is a completely different role to this, Leo stars
as the sharp, quietly complex detective investigator Thomas Linley in Linley,
(00:29):
the brand new crime series premiering today on Bingebox. The
series reimagines the beloved detective novels by Elizabeth George, introducing
viewers to a world where class divides, loyalty and obsession
collides in the hunt for justice. A bit of a
mouthful that, but I can tell you what this series
is amazing and Leo was fantastic. In our chat, Leo
(00:50):
opens up about reinventing the literary icon for the modern audience,
his take on the detective's emotional depth and what drew
him to such a layered character driven by mystery. Anyway, guys,
sit back and relax and enjoy my chat with Leo.
It was a delight to be able to catch up
with him. Hey Leo, how are you?
Speaker 3 (01:09):
I'm good? Thanks man.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Have you spent much time in Australia? Is it weird
talking to Australians at the moment.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
It's weird in that it's morning here and evening there,
so that's a bit of a head twist. But yeah,
I have been to Australia once. Oh, on a family
holiday in two thousand and five, which I remember because
I'm a keen cricket fan and that I don't know
if you remember. It was when England won a fantastic
Ashes series, but I was in Australia when it happened,
(01:37):
which was ironic.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
I'm not a huge sports fan, so I don't know.
Was that at the Gabba?
Speaker 2 (01:42):
No, it was in England. It was in England, but
I was in Australia.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
So you've really well and tarily caught me out on
the fact that I have no idea about cricket, but
I am from Australia and we love cricket, So.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
There we go, there we go. It's great to chat
with you.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Do you know what's really funny was that before I
was talking to you, I was obviously watching the show.
So I watched the first episode, which is fantastic, so congratulations.
But I then was debriefing about the books with my mother,
who had read the books, and I had no idea
that these characters are so beloved by so many people.
Had you heard of these books and the character before
(02:16):
this project came across your desk.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
No, so when it came across the desk, I had
not really heard of Lindley before that. I think I'm
quite a young Lindley and so when these came out originally,
well when the TV show came out twenty years ago,
I was still a bit young, I think. But yeah,
as you say, my goodness, at.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Once, I sort of did a bit of not much digging.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
It's clear that Elizabeth George's characters had this huge fan base,
and the show ran for six seasons on the BBC,
and I think there were protests when it got pulled.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
So definitely aware of a big fan base.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
And actually, my wife just passed her driving test and
no thanks in small part whatever that expression is her
TESTA loved Lindley was a huge Lindley super fan. I
don't know how she leaned on that to get away
with a few miners.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
I'm sure not. I'm sure not, but it was it
was funny.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
I love that your wife has crashed and done a
really bad parallel park but she's allowed on the road
because you've got.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Yeah, exactly, exactly doesn't sound dodgy at all.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
You know as well, because the characters sort of when
you read books, I don't know if you're the same
as a lot of people, you get like a visualization
as to what these characters look like, and I think
for a lot of people it's a bit of a
bit of a glow up. Because I then sent the
photo of you, but it was a photo from Vikings
to my mum and she was like, Oh, I guess
they're going for a different angle here.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Lindley's really growing his hair and his beard.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
I remember it being in the book where they're like
six pack or eight pack or whatever the hell that.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Was, Yeah, and a wolf skin over his head.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
That would be very strange to go around solving crimes
dressed as that. Probably not very inconspicuous. The criminals would
see you coming, absolutely, you know.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
I love asking actors about the moment that the character lands,
because you know, you get off of these roles, you
do a lot of research and then you can start
reading the scripts. But there's like a moment which a
lot of actors talk about where they're like, Okay, that's
who this person is to me. Can you talk to
me a little bit about that? Like what was that moment?
Speaker 3 (04:29):
That is a very good question.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
I mean, so for the interview stage, the audition phase
and all the chemistry testing were scenes with Habers in
the car and in the pub where she's really nerdling him,
trying to get under his skin about his private school
education and oxfordness. So those scenes definitely were forefront in
(04:52):
my mind coming into the show because those are the ones.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
That they hired you off the back of.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
But in terms of a moment, costume is always a
big thing when you actually put on the clothes of
this character. And we tried several coats, and Detective's got
to have a good coat. It's almost a character in
itself of the genre. And I didn't think any of
(05:16):
the coats were quite right, and so I went into
Dublin because we filmed it in Ireland and as a
sort of filming treat. I bought myself a tweed coat,
which I really liked, and I also, in the back
of my mind thought there's a bit of Linley in this.
And I wore that coat to work the next day
and our director the plan worked like clockwork. The director said,
(05:40):
hang on a minute, where'd you get that coat?
Speaker 3 (05:42):
And I told him and I said, that's Limley's coat.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
So we got the I got the coat, and I
think that was that was a very good moment because
it is.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Yeah, it really was a crossover.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Of Leo and Lindley and that moment of alchemy where
you begin to play the character.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Did they reimburse you for the cash? Like did you
buy the jacket? And they go, that's now part of
the costume department. He's I don't know how much. I
don't want to say how much the jacket was. Here's
fifty bucks for the hundred.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
I don't know they gave me. They gave me a
tenor for it.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Yeah, I think I could buy a couple of Tasco
meal deals, but for my for my coat, and then
it was theirs.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
I've got a friend in Australia who's an actress and
she bought some clothes once that they incorporated into her
role on Neighbors.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Oh yeah, I'm not sure.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
If you're familiar with Neighbors here. But the problem was
that she went and then wear the clothes after it
had been worn by this particular character, and she was
a bit mean on the show. And she said that,
you know, whenever she wore it, she felt like after
everyone had seen her in those clothes on TV, she
kind of felt like she slipped into that character. I
don't know if you're now wearing that jacket and then
all of a sudden trying to solve, you know, around.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
Asking questions, Yeah, what are you doing? Well?
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Actually, do you know what the coats they The only
other one they had was a size smaller.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Oh, and that was like a spare. But then at
the end of filming.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
They said, by God, take it with you because we
can remake remake them.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
So I gave my brother the one size down. So
there's two.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
The two of us could roam the streets of London
Liley detectives in our tweet. Coats hasn't happened yet.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
I love that. I just want to see you both
turn up to a family function wearing the same jacket.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
We should have coordinated. God damn it.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
I guess as well. You know with this story, you're
the chemistry between you two is so important, and you
talk about the fact that you know, even in the
audition process, getting that right is a part of how
you get hired. But then how do you maintain that
kind of a relationship because there's a tension there that
I can imagine would be kind of hard to manufacture.
I mean, you're an actor, so that's your job. But
(07:52):
was there any particular tips to try and keep that
sort of friction available to both of you?
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Yeah, as you say, that's friction is totally scripted that
these people murdle each other, because I think in real
life working with Sofia was such a treat and she
is the warmest, kindest, infectiously generous person, and so that
that's so nice because then it means you're working with
(08:20):
someone who you really get on with, which allows you
to try different things, throw ideas around and not feel
precious about anything.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
It was amazing because I.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Had it was the same crew who had worked on
Vikings of Mahala with me in dubbing, so I knew
all of these guys and we become friends.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Over the course of four or five years.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
But Sofia coming into that environment within two days, she
knew everyone's name and was like totally in the group,
which was so impressive and wonderful. So yeah, I know,
we just had a giggle all the time, which was
probably not right for the Lindley Haver's dynamics.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
So when the camera's role, we had to turn on
the animosity.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
But when the cameras were off, especially in our sexy.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
Sports car, we were just having a having a blast.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
I love that car. I'm not even a car person,
and I was looking at it. When you said to her,
get out of get out of the car. If you're
eating that, I would have been the same.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Come on, get her grit. This is a this is leather.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Absolutely, but even the dashboard anyway, No one cares about
me talking about a car.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
But there is a good anecdote about the car. I
told it someone else. But underneath my it's such cool
sexy car, driving it cool sexy. But underneath the car,
underneath my seat, I had a leaf blower because the
windscreen d mister didn't work, So every time they called
cut I would get out of the leaf blower de
(09:45):
miss in a very unsexy way.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Once it was.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Down, we could call action film and then yeah, so
Linley the leaf Blower was my.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Little I hate leaf blowers. I want like I don't
know if you ever saw a cape Blanchett was wearing
a he showed once that said I hate leaf blowers,
and I was like, where where did she get that from?
I live in a suburb in Melbourne, which is like
we're in an apartment in Tuak. I don't know if
people listening in Australia will understand that, but it's quite
a built up area and it's quite a wealthy area,
so everyone has their own fucking leaf blower, so we
(10:17):
get like a symphony of them at some points of
the day. As a podcaster who works at home, not ideal,
but I do like the idea of a portable one
in the car.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Yeah, this one was very discreet. Yeah, I'll send it
to you.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Amazing. When it comes to this show and you're going
to think back on this for a very long time,
what's going to be that moment that you enjoyed making
this the most? Because you mentioned Ireland, and I think
one of the selling points for these shows and a
lot of you know, British made shows as well. Is
the scenery and how beautiful it looks. What is going
to be the thing that you think back to as
(10:52):
a highlight.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Oh, there's so many moments.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
And actually we filmed this almost exactly a year ago,
so each day you know how your phone does on
this day a year ago.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
I'm getting these wonderful flashbacks.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Will you and lock in having a Murphy's beer somewhere.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
I couldn't possibly say, yeah, I'm showing Sophia her first
Guinness in Dublin.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
That was nice.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
There's nice moments at the end of episodes where Lindley
and Habers look at the horizon and say deep, deep
things about life, and those were nice, nice.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Moments to film.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
And also, yeah, because you get through the episodes quite
quickly and it's quite grueling, so by the end of
it all you're pretty exhausted by the end, and that
those final days of filming are pretty special when you're
really all just leaning on each other for support and
getting over the line and then having a great satisfaction
(11:47):
when the thing is done.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
It's interesting. And when I've spoken to a lot of
people that have made crime dramas about the reading of
the scripts and for you as an actor working out
who the killer is. Now. I bragged just recently to
someone who was making a crime drama about how I
watched their first episode and I guessed who the killer was.
Felt very, very impressed with myself and the actor was
(12:09):
impressed as well. Let me tell you, but I really
was thrown in the first episode, and I want to know,
without giving away who it is in the first episode,
how long did it take for you to work out
who was responsible that is?
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Yeah, that's what's so good about it that there's so
many twists and turns and it's never quite as simple
as you think. I thought the twist in the episode
was really really satisfying, but as well, that's the thing is,
when you're making it, you had to have to be
really careful about the details to make sure that the
(12:44):
threads all do connect.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
So I remember early on figuring.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
That out with director Ed what Lindley knows and can't
know and can say but can't say.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
When did I figure it out? Oh? On the day
I was in shock when I finally scarlet who the
murderer was. Cuffdom.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
I always think that's so fascinating because like when I
was talking to this other actor about this other show,
they were like, they didn't want to read like I
think they were saying that they didn't want to read
who the person was in the last few pages, so
they would learn all of the lines around the whole thing,
and then they'd have like a real you know, gotcha
moment when they'd actually just be given the pages right
there and then and he he's like, it's you.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Oh, that's where you go.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
That's right. No, I had read the script.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
I didn't know who done it, okay, but hopefully I
kept kept those cards close to my chest. I've done
a show before. I did a show Clik where it
was for six episodes long, and there was some awful
thing that happened in the first episode, and the producers
held back what actually happened in episode six. They told
us ostensibly because they wanted to keep the surprise. I
(13:50):
think in fact, they just haven't written.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
It yet and we're figuring out so you can you
can spin it how you want. But yeah, and then
in the end it was a surprise.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
I love that. I loved that. I mean, you do
have to keep your cards close to your chest with
this sort of stuff and without it sort of being
a spoiler to this either hashtag no spoilers. When do
we find out if we're going to get a season two? Like,
when do you find out that we're going to make
more of this? How are you going to get back
to Ireland?
Speaker 3 (14:11):
That is a good question.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Well, yeah, I've got to keep the coat coat looking
good and free of moths. I don't know, is the
honest answer, and we shall time will tell watch this space.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
I don't know yet.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
I've got a good feeling about it because it sort
of hits all the right marks of this sort of
genre at the moment, but it also there is a
little bit more of a grit to it. It's probably
not as glossy in some ways as a lot of
the competitive shows I think that are doing very similar things.
There's a because there's not serial killer, there's a bit
of a serial killer vibe to it. There's a bit
more of a seriousness in some way to it.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
So do you know what?
Speaker 2 (14:48):
And actually this is just harkening back to one of
your earlier questions. Another point where everything click was when
our director Ed played me the music that was going
to be.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
The title credits.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
And it's got this cool sort of electric guitar drive
to it, which to your point, there of not too
There's like this, there's an energy to it, even though
it's the beautiful English countryside. There's a bit of an
electronic guitar gives it a yeah listening.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
To the theme. So I was telling a producer and
executive producer of one of these shows in Australia about
how I loved the score and then they were like,
oh really, and I was like, no, I really loved
the score. I'd ripped the score and had it as
a CD in my car and I was driving around
with Now I sound like the weirdest person, Please don't
hang up. Well, but I was like, I love the
(15:43):
scores of shows and when this started as well, in
episode one, I think the music is so beautiful and
so well done and very it does set the tone
for the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Yeah, well that was That would be definitely a moment
when you hear the theme tune you're like, Okay, cool.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Go and sit down. It means go and sit down
and enjoy it. You know, I have to let you go,
but I want to ask you just something before you leave,
something that I ask every one, and that is a
secret from behind the scenes of this show. We have
actually got some good secrets.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
But I've got a really good one.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
In episode three, Lindley discovers a body and then he
has to.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
Cool the emergency services. But he's got no signal.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
So I took out my prop phone call which doesn't
have a SIM in it, called nine nine nine Green,
put it to my ear and was about to be like, ah,
there's no signal, but there was signal and with no SIM,
I don't know what the deal was. I went through
to the Irish Switchboard and they asked, what department?
Speaker 1 (16:41):
What is your problem?
Speaker 3 (16:42):
Are you okay there's no signal. I'm telling you there's
no signal. Play along.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
So that was quite funny and obviously didn't make the cut,
but will be in a blooper real somewhere of me
apologizing to the Irish Switchboard that I was an actor
in a TV show and sorry to waste her time.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
To waste your time, good day, sir Leo. Can I
just say how much I really enjoyed the first series.
I can't wait to watch the rest of it. I
hope people listening to this chat here in Australia and
potentially around the world. I hear your stories and are
inspired to watch it and get on board and hopefully
we're talking about this, you know again, in twelve months.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
Yes. Man, well, it's been really nice talking to you.
And yeah, I hope people like the show because we
love making it, so yeah, stuff.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Don't hold it against me that I know nothing about
the cricket. I don't even know what a gather is.
So anyway, I've got to let you go, but thanks
so much for your time. I really appreciate it, enjoyed
all the best.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Man.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Cheers bye, yeah, cheers bye,
It's in the news today, but it was actually on
TV reload the podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
US deep their line.
Speaker 1 (00:04):
Welcome back to TV RIALO. My name is Benjamin Norris
and I am your host today and I'll be chatting
to British actor Leo Sutter, who is stepping into a
familiar territory a genre that I absolutely love, mystery, murder
and moody countrysides. Known for his role in Vikings Valhalla,
which is a completely different role to this, Leo stars
as the sharp, quietly complex detective investigator Thomas Linley in Linley,
(00:29):
the brand new crime series premiering today on Bingebox. The
series reimagines the beloved detective novels by Elizabeth George, introducing
viewers to a world where class divides, loyalty and obsession
collides in the hunt for justice. A bit of a
mouthful that, but I can tell you what this series
is amazing and Leo was fantastic. In our chat, Leo
(00:50):
opens up about reinventing the literary icon for the modern audience,
his take on the detective's emotional depth and what drew
him to such a layered character driven by mystery. Anyway, guys,
sit back and relax and enjoy my chat with Leo.
It was a delight to be able to catch up
with him. Hey Leo, how are you?
Speaker 3 (01:09):
I'm good? Thanks man.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Have you spent much time in Australia? Is it weird
talking to Australians at the moment.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
It's weird in that it's morning here and evening there,
so that's a bit of a head twist. But yeah,
I have been to Australia once. Oh, on a family
holiday in two thousand and five, which I remember because
I'm a keen cricket fan and that I don't know
if you remember. It was when England won a fantastic
Ashes series, but I was in Australia when it happened,
(01:37):
which was ironic.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
I'm not a huge sports fan, so I don't know.
Was that at the Gabba?
Speaker 2 (01:42):
No, it was in England. It was in England, but
I was in Australia.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
So you've really well and tarily caught me out on
the fact that I have no idea about cricket, but
I am from Australia and we love cricket, So.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
There we go, there we go. It's great to chat
with you.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Do you know what's really funny was that before I
was talking to you, I was obviously watching the show.
So I watched the first episode, which is fantastic, so congratulations.
But I then was debriefing about the books with my mother,
who had read the books, and I had no idea
that these characters are so beloved by so many people.
Had you heard of these books and the character before
(02:16):
this project came across your desk.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
No, so when it came across the desk, I had
not really heard of Lindley before that. I think I'm
quite a young Lindley and so when these came out originally,
well when the TV show came out twenty years ago,
I was still a bit young, I think. But yeah,
as you say, my goodness, at.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Once, I sort of did a bit of not much digging.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
It's clear that Elizabeth George's characters had this huge fan base,
and the show ran for six seasons on the BBC,
and I think there were protests when it got pulled.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
So definitely aware of a big fan base.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
And actually, my wife just passed her driving test and
no thanks in small part whatever that expression is her
TESTA loved Lindley was a huge Lindley super fan. I
don't know how she leaned on that to get away
with a few miners.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
I'm sure not. I'm sure not, but it was it
was funny.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
I love that your wife has crashed and done a
really bad parallel park but she's allowed on the road
because you've got.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Yeah, exactly, exactly doesn't sound dodgy at all.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
You know as well, because the characters sort of when
you read books, I don't know if you're the same
as a lot of people, you get like a visualization
as to what these characters look like, and I think
for a lot of people it's a bit of a
bit of a glow up. Because I then sent the
photo of you, but it was a photo from Vikings
to my mum and she was like, Oh, I guess
they're going for a different angle here.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Lindley's really growing his hair and his beard.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
I remember it being in the book where they're like
six pack or eight pack or whatever the hell that.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Was, Yeah, and a wolf skin over his head.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
That would be very strange to go around solving crimes
dressed as that. Probably not very inconspicuous. The criminals would
see you coming, absolutely, you know.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
I love asking actors about the moment that the character lands,
because you know, you get off of these roles, you
do a lot of research and then you can start
reading the scripts. But there's like a moment which a
lot of actors talk about where they're like, Okay, that's
who this person is to me. Can you talk to
me a little bit about that? Like what was that moment?
Speaker 3 (04:29):
That is a very good question.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
I mean, so for the interview stage, the audition phase
and all the chemistry testing were scenes with Habers in
the car and in the pub where she's really nerdling him,
trying to get under his skin about his private school
education and oxfordness. So those scenes definitely were forefront in
(04:52):
my mind coming into the show because those are the ones.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
That they hired you off the back of.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
But in terms of a moment, costume is always a
big thing when you actually put on the clothes of
this character. And we tried several coats, and Detective's got
to have a good coat. It's almost a character in
itself of the genre. And I didn't think any of
(05:16):
the coats were quite right, and so I went into
Dublin because we filmed it in Ireland and as a
sort of filming treat. I bought myself a tweed coat,
which I really liked, and I also, in the back
of my mind thought there's a bit of Linley in this.
And I wore that coat to work the next day
and our director the plan worked like clockwork. The director said,
(05:40):
hang on a minute, where'd you get that coat?
Speaker 3 (05:42):
And I told him and I said, that's Limley's coat.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
So we got the I got the coat, and I
think that was that was a very good moment because
it is.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Yeah, it really was a crossover.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Of Leo and Lindley and that moment of alchemy where
you begin to play the character.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Did they reimburse you for the cash? Like did you
buy the jacket? And they go, that's now part of
the costume department. He's I don't know how much. I
don't want to say how much the jacket was. Here's
fifty bucks for the hundred.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
I don't know they gave me. They gave me a
tenor for it.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Yeah, I think I could buy a couple of Tasco
meal deals, but for my for my coat, and then
it was theirs.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
I've got a friend in Australia who's an actress and
she bought some clothes once that they incorporated into her
role on Neighbors.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Oh yeah, I'm not sure.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
If you're familiar with Neighbors here. But the problem was
that she went and then wear the clothes after it
had been worn by this particular character, and she was
a bit mean on the show. And she said that,
you know, whenever she wore it, she felt like after
everyone had seen her in those clothes on TV, she
kind of felt like she slipped into that character. I
don't know if you're now wearing that jacket and then
all of a sudden trying to solve, you know, around.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
Asking questions, Yeah, what are you doing? Well?
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Actually, do you know what the coats they The only
other one they had was a size smaller.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Oh, and that was like a spare. But then at
the end of filming.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
They said, by God, take it with you because we
can remake remake them.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
So I gave my brother the one size down. So
there's two.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
The two of us could roam the streets of London
Liley detectives in our tweet. Coats hasn't happened yet.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
I love that. I just want to see you both
turn up to a family function wearing the same jacket.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
We should have coordinated. God damn it.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
I guess as well. You know with this story, you're
the chemistry between you two is so important, and you
talk about the fact that you know, even in the
audition process, getting that right is a part of how
you get hired. But then how do you maintain that
kind of a relationship because there's a tension there that
I can imagine would be kind of hard to manufacture.
I mean, you're an actor, so that's your job. But
(07:52):
was there any particular tips to try and keep that
sort of friction available to both of you?
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Yeah, as you say, that's friction is totally scripted that
these people murdle each other, because I think in real
life working with Sofia was such a treat and she
is the warmest, kindest, infectiously generous person, and so that
that's so nice because then it means you're working with
(08:20):
someone who you really get on with, which allows you
to try different things, throw ideas around and not feel
precious about anything.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
It was amazing because I.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Had it was the same crew who had worked on
Vikings of Mahala with me in dubbing, so I knew
all of these guys and we become friends.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Over the course of four or five years.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
But Sofia coming into that environment within two days, she
knew everyone's name and was like totally in the group,
which was so impressive and wonderful. So yeah, I know,
we just had a giggle all the time, which was
probably not right for the Lindley Haver's dynamics.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
So when the camera's role, we had to turn on
the animosity.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
But when the cameras were off, especially in our sexy.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
Sports car, we were just having a having a blast.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
I love that car. I'm not even a car person,
and I was looking at it. When you said to her,
get out of get out of the car. If you're
eating that, I would have been the same.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Come on, get her grit. This is a this is leather.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Absolutely, but even the dashboard anyway, No one cares about
me talking about a car.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
But there is a good anecdote about the car. I
told it someone else. But underneath my it's such cool
sexy car, driving it cool sexy. But underneath the car,
underneath my seat, I had a leaf blower because the
windscreen d mister didn't work, So every time they called
cut I would get out of the leaf blower de
(09:45):
miss in a very unsexy way.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Once it was.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Down, we could call action film and then yeah, so
Linley the leaf Blower was my.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Little I hate leaf blowers. I want like I don't
know if you ever saw a cape Blanchett was wearing
a he showed once that said I hate leaf blowers,
and I was like, where where did she get that from?
I live in a suburb in Melbourne, which is like
we're in an apartment in Tuak. I don't know if
people listening in Australia will understand that, but it's quite
a built up area and it's quite a wealthy area,
so everyone has their own fucking leaf blower, so we
(10:17):
get like a symphony of them at some points of
the day. As a podcaster who works at home, not ideal,
but I do like the idea of a portable one
in the car.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Yeah, this one was very discreet. Yeah, I'll send it
to you.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Amazing. When it comes to this show and you're going
to think back on this for a very long time,
what's going to be that moment that you enjoyed making
this the most? Because you mentioned Ireland, and I think
one of the selling points for these shows and a
lot of you know, British made shows as well. Is
the scenery and how beautiful it looks. What is going
to be the thing that you think back to as
(10:52):
a highlight.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Oh, there's so many moments.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
And actually we filmed this almost exactly a year ago,
so each day you know how your phone does on
this day a year ago.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
I'm getting these wonderful flashbacks.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Will you and lock in having a Murphy's beer somewhere.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
I couldn't possibly say, yeah, I'm showing Sophia her first
Guinness in Dublin.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
That was nice.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
There's nice moments at the end of episodes where Lindley
and Habers look at the horizon and say deep, deep
things about life, and those were nice, nice.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Moments to film.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
And also, yeah, because you get through the episodes quite
quickly and it's quite grueling, so by the end of
it all you're pretty exhausted by the end, and that
those final days of filming are pretty special when you're
really all just leaning on each other for support and
getting over the line and then having a great satisfaction
(11:47):
when the thing is done.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
It's interesting. And when I've spoken to a lot of
people that have made crime dramas about the reading of
the scripts and for you as an actor working out
who the killer is. Now. I bragged just recently to
someone who was making a crime drama about how I
watched their first episode and I guessed who the killer was.
Felt very, very impressed with myself and the actor was
(12:09):
impressed as well. Let me tell you, but I really
was thrown in the first episode, and I want to know,
without giving away who it is in the first episode,
how long did it take for you to work out
who was responsible that is?
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Yeah, that's what's so good about it that there's so
many twists and turns and it's never quite as simple
as you think. I thought the twist in the episode
was really really satisfying, but as well, that's the thing is,
when you're making it, you had to have to be
really careful about the details to make sure that the
(12:44):
threads all do connect.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
So I remember early on figuring.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
That out with director Ed what Lindley knows and can't
know and can say but can't say.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
When did I figure it out? Oh? On the day
I was in shock when I finally scarlet who the
murderer was. Cuffdom.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
I always think that's so fascinating because like when I
was talking to this other actor about this other show,
they were like, they didn't want to read like I
think they were saying that they didn't want to read
who the person was in the last few pages, so
they would learn all of the lines around the whole thing,
and then they'd have like a real you know, gotcha
moment when they'd actually just be given the pages right
there and then and he he's like, it's you.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Oh, that's where you go.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
That's right. No, I had read the script.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
I didn't know who done it, okay, but hopefully I
kept kept those cards close to my chest. I've done
a show before. I did a show Clik where it
was for six episodes long, and there was some awful
thing that happened in the first episode, and the producers
held back what actually happened in episode six. They told
us ostensibly because they wanted to keep the surprise. I
(13:50):
think in fact, they just haven't written.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
It yet and we're figuring out so you can you
can spin it how you want. But yeah, and then
in the end it was a surprise.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
I love that. I loved that. I mean, you do
have to keep your cards close to your chest with
this sort of stuff and without it sort of being
a spoiler to this either hashtag no spoilers. When do
we find out if we're going to get a season two? Like,
when do you find out that we're going to make
more of this? How are you going to get back
to Ireland?
Speaker 3 (14:11):
That is a good question.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Well, yeah, I've got to keep the coat coat looking
good and free of moths. I don't know, is the
honest answer, and we shall time will tell watch this space.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
I don't know yet.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
I've got a good feeling about it because it sort
of hits all the right marks of this sort of
genre at the moment, but it also there is a
little bit more of a grit to it. It's probably
not as glossy in some ways as a lot of
the competitive shows I think that are doing very similar things.
There's a because there's not serial killer, there's a bit
of a serial killer vibe to it. There's a bit
more of a seriousness in some way to it.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
So do you know what?
Speaker 2 (14:48):
And actually this is just harkening back to one of
your earlier questions. Another point where everything click was when
our director Ed played me the music that was going
to be.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
The title credits.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
And it's got this cool sort of electric guitar drive
to it, which to your point, there of not too
There's like this, there's an energy to it, even though
it's the beautiful English countryside. There's a bit of an
electronic guitar gives it a yeah listening.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
To the theme. So I was telling a producer and
executive producer of one of these shows in Australia about
how I loved the score and then they were like,
oh really, and I was like, no, I really loved
the score. I'd ripped the score and had it as
a CD in my car and I was driving around
with Now I sound like the weirdest person, Please don't
hang up. Well, but I was like, I love the
(15:43):
scores of shows and when this started as well, in
episode one, I think the music is so beautiful and
so well done and very it does set the tone
for the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Yeah, well that was That would be definitely a moment
when you hear the theme tune you're like, Okay, cool.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Go and sit down. It means go and sit down
and enjoy it. You know, I have to let you go,
but I want to ask you just something before you leave,
something that I ask every one, and that is a
secret from behind the scenes of this show. We have
actually got some good secrets.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
But I've got a really good one.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
In episode three, Lindley discovers a body and then he
has to.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
Cool the emergency services. But he's got no signal.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
So I took out my prop phone call which doesn't
have a SIM in it, called nine nine nine Green,
put it to my ear and was about to be like, ah,
there's no signal, but there was signal and with no SIM,
I don't know what the deal was. I went through
to the Irish Switchboard and they asked, what department?
Speaker 1 (16:41):
What is your problem?
Speaker 3 (16:42):
Are you okay there's no signal. I'm telling you there's
no signal. Play along.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
So that was quite funny and obviously didn't make the cut,
but will be in a blooper real somewhere of me
apologizing to the Irish Switchboard that I was an actor
in a TV show and sorry to waste her time.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
To waste your time, good day, sir Leo. Can I
just say how much I really enjoyed the first series.
I can't wait to watch the rest of it. I
hope people listening to this chat here in Australia and
potentially around the world. I hear your stories and are
inspired to watch it and get on board and hopefully
we're talking about this, you know again, in twelve months.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
Yes. Man, well, it's been really nice talking to you.
And yeah, I hope people like the show because we
love making it, so yeah, stuff.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Don't hold it against me that I know nothing about
the cricket. I don't even know what a gather is.
So anyway, I've got to let you go, but thanks
so much for your time. I really appreciate it, enjoyed
all the best.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Man.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Cheers bye, yeah, cheers bye,
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