06-08-26 FULL SHOW - A Perspective From the Progressive Left - The Mandy Connell Podcast

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rod we call it Anthony Rodriguez. Uh, We're gonna take
you right up until three pm today and there's gonna
be severe weather. I don't know when that do we
know when that's supposed to start?

Speaker 5 (00:47):
Answering it's rolling in the next couple hours.

Speaker 3 (00:49):
Okay, we're at We're going to try and do show
in between EAS alerts.

Speaker 6 (00:54):
So I think our show for the EAS is probably
gonna be okay, like we're talking and like little as
you heard in the news, like a little after like
three in the four o'clock is when it starts to
get what I have.

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Yeah, super cool.

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Yeah.

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So if Rob Dawson wants to pop in, or Chad
Bauer wants to pop in, anyone on the news or
wants to pop in whenever, come on down.

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Should we called Dave Frasier a little Yeah, it's pretty busy.
I don't care.

Speaker 5 (01:20):
He also listens, so he has the number.

Speaker 3 (01:23):
Text him he's listening. Probably, I'm just saying, maybe it's
not because he's busy looking at the severe weather that's
coming in at some point this afternoon. We know people, Anthony.
We don't have to sit and flail. We know people.
Let's do the.

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Blog, shall we?

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A winner.

Speaker 3 (03:32):
Thank you, Nancy, And I know it sounds mean when
I said at the very last headline, it would be
funny if she drowned. But the reason I said that
is because she was wearing twenty four life jackets.

Speaker 5 (03:43):
I'm very glad you added that context right away.

Speaker 3 (03:45):
Yeah, I don't want people to think I'm just an
awful person that hope someone drowns. I mean there's probably
certain people that I would be okay with them drowning.
I mean evil, evil people, not just not like I
would never say that about politicians I disagreed with. I'm
talking about evil people who do evil, horrible things.

Speaker 6 (04:02):
To other people to tease to go watch that video
is at the very end, well, the twenty plus life jackets.
If something were to have gone wrong, what could the
other people like filming could have even done, Like she
was just a ball of life jackets, and if she
would have flipped around and face person into the water,
like how the hell do you save her?

Speaker 7 (04:18):
Quick enough?

Speaker 3 (04:19):
Do not have to ask the question who has twenty
four life jackets? They're at their lake house, probably a company,
they probably are. They're all different though. And we used
to have a house on a lake, and we have
a house on a river, and the lake house that
was where we went skiing. You can't ski on a
river where we have our the river House. We don't

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have the lake house anymore, but we always have like
eight or nine life jackets and various sizes, so when
everybody came out, you had a life jacket for everybody
getting on the boat. But for I mean twenty four,
who has that many life jackets?

Speaker 5 (04:53):
Very entertaining.

Speaker 6 (04:54):
I have for a follow up question, what a great video?
You can go watch the blog Mandy blog dot com.

Speaker 3 (04:59):
There you go, Mandy Block. Lots of video on the
blog today, including the video of Oh you know what,
I forgot to add Jeffrey. Excuse me, I did not
forget to add I forgot to tell you Representative Jeff
Crank coming on the show today. Oh today is two thirty. Yes,

(05:19):
that all happened off the air. My apologies. So we're
going to talk to the gentleman from the Colorado Springs area,
and we're going to talk about some of the stuff
that is coming home. He is, of course running for
re election, and of course is going to come on
and talk about some of the big wins he's had.
And I'm all about big wins. Oh wait, I know, yeah, No,
it's supposed to be next Monday. It was next Monday

(05:41):
else and you were right by the way. But then
a conversation occurred between Eve and I via text message copy.
So all that happened fairly recently, so I just wanted
to bring you up to speed on that we also have.
I'm very interested to meet my two o'clock guest, or
my two thirty guests rather. His name is deep sing Meadesha,

(06:01):
and I followed him on X for the longest time
because he is as far left without being Antifa as
I think you can be. He might be Antifa secretly,
I don't know. But he's also very smart, and he
states his opinions in such a way that they are
very clear but not necessarily like crazy, even though I

(06:25):
vehemently disagree with most of the positions that he espouses
on X. So I thought about this. I was like,
you know, he posts a lot from the left of
people like Michael Bennett and Phil Wiser. So the candidates
he supports are the Democratic Socialists of America candidates, So

(06:46):
why am I having one on the show. First of all,
I'm interested to talk to him. I like to know
how the other team thinks. I like to know the
thought processes that lead them to a physician that is
so completely wrong. I want to know that, and everyone
should want to know that. Whether you're on the left
or the right, you should want to know how the
other side thinks. Life would be a lot better in

(07:08):
this country if we all had a better understanding of
how the other side thinks. Now that's not to say
that once you learn how they think, you are going
to agree with them or they are going to agree
with you conversely, Right, that's not to say, but wouldn't
it be easier for us to negotiate real solutions to
big problems when we can address the fears and concerns

(07:28):
that the other side has, Because ultimately, when I try
to solve a problem, I'm going to try and solve
that problem the best way I know how well. I
have concerns or biases that are kind of baked into
the stew. So I have things that I'm afraid of,
Like if we don't do this, if we don't secure
the border, we are going to allow terrorists from a

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terror state to walk across the southern border and plan
a massive terror attack in the United States of America.
I am afraid of that. How do you solve for
that problem in the southern border. If you are on
the left and believe that we have we should have
open borders, how do you solve for that problem? But
I'm interested to see what Deep thinks.

Speaker 7 (08:09):
We're going to talk.

Speaker 3 (08:09):
About the growing schism within the Democratic Party between the
Democratic socialist wing of which Deep is a part, and
the more mainstream Democrats. So I actually think that in Colorado,
at least in the power positions, it feels like the

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Democratic Socialists are gaining steam in a big way here
among Democrats. So I'm gonna be very interested to see
how he feels about that, and I hope it's going
to be interesting to you guys. It'll be interesting to me.
Did I mentioned we were already over two thousand subscribers? Hey, Rod,
By the way, Deep's gonna be on one, Jeff frank
Gett two thirty.

Speaker 7 (08:53):
I had that backwards.

Speaker 3 (08:56):
Thank you so much, subscribers, Thank you so incredibly very much.
So I'm sure you guys have been watching the La
Mayors race. I think the whole country has been watching
the La Mayors race. And you know that, or you
should know that Spencer Pratt after solidly polling in the
second position for a very long time has now been

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overtaken by another communist. So now we're about to have
a woman who was literally like trained in Cuba. I
don't know if you guys know this about Karen Vass.
Hang on, let me do this really quickly. Karen Bass Cuba.
Let me just pull this up very very quickly to
make sure that I know what I'm talking about. As

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a young woman in her late teens and early twenties,
Bass visited Cuba multiple times with the Vincere Mos Brigade.

Speaker 4 (09:52):
And she.

Speaker 3 (09:58):
She's a communist.

Speaker 9 (10:00):
I mean, she just is.

Speaker 3 (10:02):
She's a complete communist. During the twenty twenty Democratic Vice
presidential vetting promise process, where she was being vetted to
possibly be VP for Joe Biden, she described Castro at
his death as Commandante l hefe. The Spanish phrase, which

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translates in English to commander in chief, has been criticized
as unduly deferential to the communist strong man who presided
over various human rights abuses. She's a communist, and yet
she's about to be joined at the top of the ticket,
not the top of the ticket, but in the runoff.
Because the way the primaries work in Los Angeles and California.

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Everybody runs in the primary and then the top two
vote getters go on to the general election. On election day,
Spencer Pratt was firmly in second place, and Nita whatever
her last name is, was in third place. And since then,
as the votes continue to roll in, the largest number

(11:07):
of votes, by the way, just came in from basically
skid row, where a whole bunch of homeless people, I'm sure,
cast their ballots willingly and without any sort of compensation
of any sort, and they all happen to be voting
for the other Communist that is running for mayor of

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Los Angeles. So Spencer prattnow in third place, and I
fully expect more of those mail in ballots to be
for him. Now, I am not going to pretend that
I am some kind of math wizard who can sit
here and tell you that statistically for all of those
votes to come in for the Communists, that's crazy that
could have never accept I'm not a math wizard. And

(11:50):
I'm seeing a lot of speculation online, and I'm going
to have to say the same thing I have been saying,
which is we've got to get some proof.

Speaker 4 (12:00):
We just do.

Speaker 3 (12:02):
And it's gonna be one of those things that someone
like Nick Shirley, who is running around Los Angeles right now.
Nick Shirley is the young journalist who exposed the medicaid
fraud in Minnesota, which by the way, is now led
to more investigations, including the one in the Denver Gazette
last week and this by David mcgoya. We talked to
David on Friday. If you missed that podcast, you should

(12:25):
go back and listen to it. Because Medicaid fraud. The
one one company that David mcgoya found that was running
this scam called the Program. They've managed to pil for
twenty six million dollars using homeless people as pawns. But

(12:45):
I'm sure there's nothing happening in Los Angeles' election. I
don't have any proof. Somebody's gonna have to go dig
up these homeless people and say, hey, who'd you cast
your ballot for? And they're like, what, No, who'd you
vote for? You should know, right, you should know, buddy,
she'd be able to tell us that. And it's just

(13:06):
a does anybody else just get up and look at
the news and is like, you know, you got your
cup of coffee? Like hermit in that mean, and you're
just like, I'm sure that's none of my business. It's
starting to feel like wow, between I know, we're in
an intelection cycle and things are nuts. Oh by the way,
right before the show, I saw on x a post

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by one mister Kyle Clark. Guess who's picked up the
Republican race in Colorado for a story. If you guessed
Salon dot com, you guessed right. Salon is a lefty
They like to consider themselves an intellectual lefty operation. They
are not not even close that is. And I know

(13:48):
you're like, Mandy. There can't be an intellectual lefty operation
out there is the Atlantic, the Economist. Those are lefty
operations that are that are intellectual. I just want to
read the headline for you to know what people around
the country are seeing about Colorado. It says even in

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purple Colorado, Republicans can't find a normal candidate. The lead
in the GOP governor's primary claims he's an expert at
Cajun karate and the other two aren't much better. Let
me just read this to you. Victor Marx says the

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first time he participated in killing a man, he was
seven years old. He says he was forced into it
by his stepfather, but would also like folks to believe
that he's killed many, many times since then, although he
refuses to say how many people, but of course, only
for the greater good. According to Marx, the US military
empowered him to order stripes that killed seventy ISIS fighters.

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He has also claimed he rescued over forty five thousand
women and children from slavery around the world, like some
from a high stakes action movie. He later pulled that
number off as All Things Possible Ministry's website when called
out on it. He's bragged he's led more than one
hundred and thirty missions in thirty plus nations, but declines
to provide details of these daring rescues. He performs exorcisms

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over the phones, assuring folks that one doesn't need to
be in person to cast out demons, and it just
goes from there, just ohs from there.

Speaker 7 (15:29):
I think I'm just.

Speaker 3 (15:30):
Losing faith in the whole thing. Now I'm beginning to
understand those people. You know, have you've seen those guys
who who?

Speaker 7 (15:37):
Who?

Speaker 4 (15:38):
What?

Speaker 3 (15:38):
Was it an an old oil rig or something? And
they bought the old oil rig and they created their
own country. There just said we're gonna, We're just we're
bowing out. We're just good, We're fine. I've got something
on the blog today, an ap pole that has also
gotten me a little bit down in the dumps. I
guess not. I don't know if I'm down in the dumps.

(16:01):
I think I'm just looking at things and going, huh,
I'm not even sure what to.

Speaker 4 (16:06):
Do with this.

Speaker 3 (16:07):
I'm not even sure. I'm not even sure like what
to what angles to take on this stuff? This from
the AP NORD poll Excuse me Nord poll. Few have
confidence in their financial situation, but those who believe that
the American Dream still holds true are more optimistic than

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those who are not. They asked people who fell into
the following category, you would be able to pay an
unexpected medical expense if the American Dream still holds true,
and if they said yes, it does, forty one percent
said yeah. That's because those people are living in the
American dream. They worked hard, they're making smart decisions, and

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it's working out for them. Once held true, then it
drops down to just nineteen percent who say that the
American Dream still holds true. So once it ont sell true,
but it doesn't anymore. Nineteen percent of those who say
they would be able to pay an unexpected medical expense,
but fifty two percent say yeah, it once held true,

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but no. And if they say it never held true, well,
those are very pessimistic numbers. So it's like, we think
about everything in the United States of America an in
the world that we have that our grandparents could only
dream of. Right now, if I wanted to have something

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prepared for me at a restaurant and someone else will
bring it to me and I can have it handed
me and I can eat whatever I want from a
restaurant while i'm That was unheard of when I started
in my radio career, and now we take it for granted.

Speaker 7 (17:52):
Oh, uber eat stored ash. Yeah whatever.

Speaker 3 (17:55):
The fact that we are all walking around with every
piece of knowledge in the world in our hand, that's
pretty remarkable, and yet we roll down in the dumps.
More people have been lifted out of abject poverty in
the last five hundred years than we're in the previous
five thousand, and yet we're like.

Speaker 7 (18:17):
Ooh, things suck. What is wrong with us?

Speaker 3 (18:21):
Why can't we see the good? Because there is so
much good so many good things are happening, and all
we do and I know I do the show, I
pick the stuff. I'm just saying I'm part of the problem.

Speaker 7 (18:33):
I get it.

Speaker 3 (18:34):
I hear you on the Common Spirit Health text line
at five six six nine. Oh, Mandy, how is Colorado purple?
It is blue?

Speaker 7 (18:42):
Blue, blue, butty blue.

Speaker 3 (18:43):
Sadly, you are correct, there is nothing purple about We're
like navy blue. We're not even light blue. We're like,
how blue can you bleed before you are black? That's
how blue we are in Colorado. We are more blue
than California. It's true, Mandy. It's really difficult for me

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to defend Colorado Republicans with the majority supposedly supporting Victor Marx.
That's at least what the news says regularly. They are
giving my college kids more fuel to support their desires
to go socialist communists. Let me just say this, he
has a plurality of the vote right now. He does
not have a majority. The highest polling I've seen, and
I've not seen any polling from any reliable source that

(19:27):
I am familiar with, has him at forty two percent.
That's the highest I've ever seen. I don't know who
did the poll, So I don't have any I can't
put any stock in it. His fundraising has been outstanding,
but he's been getting people to give him money for
years through his ministry, and I have a feeling a
lot of that is from the same people.

Speaker 7 (19:45):
So yeah, don't lose hope.

Speaker 3 (19:47):
But yeah, this one. I don't even know what to
say anymore. I truly I don't, because it looks like,
I mean, if all things hold, he's going to win
the primary. And then if you think the Daily Show
mockery of Victor Marx was bad, you have no idea

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what the Democrats will unleash on Victor Marx. And they
will wait, They'll wait until September and then they will
flood the airway. You will not be able to get
away with it. They will fly planes over the over
Broncos Stadium on Game Day. I mean, it's going to
be oh wow, wow wow. Civil war is the only

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way to end the indoctrinated commie ideology infecting our society. Sorry,
that's just a dumb idea, and I will say it
every time it's said. It's a dumb, horrible, rotten, no
good idea. Just stop it. We're gonna have severe weather
this afternoon, and I made a comment about, you know,
we'll do some show in between the EAS reports, and
someone just said, can a Rod turn off the automatic

(20:53):
EAS alert? Sometimes when KOA breaks in for weather, the
EAS talks over them. Anyway, the answer is absolutely, one
hundred percent, cannot do. We can lose our FCC license
if anything interferes with the EAS alerts because ultimately, you guys,
KOA is part of what is called the Clear Channel
network of one hundred thousand wat AM radio stations that

(21:17):
are in existence to disseminate emergency information when it is
needed to be disseminated. That is our primary function. The
fact that we get to sit here and talk about
stuff all day, that is our secondary function.

Speaker 7 (21:30):
I appreciate that listener thinking I have that much better.

Speaker 1 (21:32):
I know.

Speaker 3 (21:32):
I yeah, I was like, wow, they think we actually
can are somebody. What's the quickest way, hey rodbye, get fired? Yeah?
Exactly exactly, Mandy. We all want to believe an election
fraud in California, but as Brownie said earlier today, we
need proof. And I hope that that came across in
my conversations. It's like this whole thing just feels super gross, right,

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It feels like, how can this be happening without some
measure of fraud? But feelings are not facts.

Speaker 7 (22:02):
Feelings are just that.

Speaker 3 (22:04):
So until we get proof, until proof is made. So
here's the thing. I don't understand why Californians are okay
with it taking this long to count ballots. At what
point are you not? Why are we an embarrassment in
the United States of America? Why can we not get
this done home to Silicon Valley for Primity's sake. Nobody

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in Silicon Valley can solve this problem, this intractable problem
that forty nine other states have already worked.

Speaker 7 (22:31):
Out, just saying.

Speaker 3 (22:34):
Then there was a text here, La La lah Mandy.
The closest Colorado would come to being a purple state
would be if the Rockies win the NL West Division. Well,
we want an attainable goal. I would do the game
on Saturday, a Rod You went Friday or you went
Sunday Sunday, so we both have these same fan experience

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in terms of wins and losses.

Speaker 7 (22:57):
I mean, yeah, they were up three to one for
a while there.

Speaker 3 (23:00):
They were up in my game too.

Speaker 5 (23:02):
But the Brewers are really good, so really good I will.

Speaker 3 (23:06):
Say this so uh the Brewers picture on Saturday night.
I cannot remember his last name. It's like a long
Polish name. Was something all looking up in a second.
That kid was throwing at one hundred and two point nine,
one hundred and three point one. He was a starter
and went seven innings. They're gonna throw that kid's arm

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out in the next two years.

Speaker 7 (23:28):
Watch it happen.

Speaker 6 (23:30):
I got to see history. Oh no, I mean that's cool,
no good. Kyle Freeland became the all time leader. Kiss
So I saw that. That was yeah, yeah, nice upside.
It was a lovely night to watch a baseball game.
I say that it was, it was, it was.

Speaker 3 (23:49):
It looked hot for the others. Yeah you were lower
yeah level. Yeah, you know in the Hoy poloy down there.
I love this text message, Connell.

Speaker 7 (24:00):
That's me.

Speaker 3 (24:00):
We are fat, dumb and happy and people don't understand
how hard work, as our grandparents would define it. We
want stuff now and we don't want to work for it.
I can't wait until Marx is the GOP candidate. I
can hear it now the clown show. GOP will say
the election was stolen. I'm voting for a Bennett in
the primary, will you please say, go Raiders over the air.

(24:21):
I'll give you a dollar. I would like you to
direct that dollar to step Denver dot Org on my
behalf and you can round up to ten. That would
be fine, Mandy. I was talking in the last segment
about our lack of perspective and gratitude for the fact
that we get to live right now. We get to

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live at one of the greatest times in history, in
my opinion, because the world is changing, yes, and there's
so many incredible things happening, but.

Speaker 7 (24:50):
We're alive for it.

Speaker 3 (24:50):
We're going to get to see it all play out.
For no apparent reason, I'm getting more and more optimistic
about AI. I know should be going in the other direction,
but I was thinking about this and the analogy that
I use with my daughter that you know, fifteen years
ago there wasn't an app store. Well wait a minute,

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twenty years ago, there wasn't an app store at all,
and now trillions of dollars are spent in an app
store and people are making millions and millions with apps
that didn't even have the need to be a thing
until the smartphone popped up. I just I'm excited about it.
But here we go. This texter said the stuff you
listed as an improvement to life is true. I think

(25:36):
the underlying issues are twofold. They are expensive, and one
could argue forced buy a home without solar panels, I
don't need it. Buy a car without touch screens and TVs,
I don't need it. They're just used options, but inflation
has destroyed their affordability. Just my quick thoughts you, sir
or madam. Are you are splitting details of kind of

(25:58):
the proof of what I'm talking about? Unless you work
at iHeart and you're on the fourth floor. When you
go to your kitchen and you turn on the faucet,
water comes out right. When you have to relieve yourself,
you go in a bowl of fresh water and then
you flush it and you never have to think of
it again. It's not going to infect your water, it's

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not going to be in your yard. It's not going
to create a problem. When you need food, you go
to a store where food from all over the planet
is waiting for you. Is some of it expensive? Yes
it is. But you can go buy food instead of

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doing what people had to do for thousands and thousands
and thousands of years, which was on whatever little piece
of land they could, you know, get get a hold of.
They had to farm, and if they didn't grow anything,
they didn't eat and.

Speaker 7 (26:51):
They starved to death.

Speaker 3 (26:54):
You're talking about solar panels and features that are expensive.
I'm talking about recognizing the things that are so fundamental
to making our life easy. So it's so easy that
you're worried about being able to pay for the options
you don't want. That's kind of where we are. Mandy,

(27:14):
can Dave Fraser give us a weather report today? Did
you call Dave Fraser?

Speaker 6 (27:17):
Ay Ron?

Speaker 7 (27:18):
I want to see if he was listening.

Speaker 5 (27:19):
I guess I will thank you, Mandy.

Speaker 3 (27:22):
I will do that. Step Denver, step Denver in Decay.
We'll get ten dollars. Mad love Condall Boyles too, Mandy.
As bad as the Mets are this year, they still
have a better record than the Rockies. Okay, can we
just have I'm one minute because I have a guy
who hates it when I talk about baseball. I'm going
to sit through this season under the assumption that at

(27:43):
some point the Pennor family will step in and go,
you guys better do something significant, or we're out or
whatever or something. I realized that this is. I actually
love the Rocky slogan right now here for the climb.
I love it.

Speaker 7 (27:58):
It's so hopeful and it's good.

Speaker 3 (28:01):
But there better be some climb and right now. Although, ay, Rod,
let me ask you this question. Do you feel like
the product on the field is better than it was
last year? Knowing that you're you guys got shelled in
the later ending, so did we? I think so too.
They are a much better baseball team.

Speaker 7 (28:19):
They are.

Speaker 3 (28:20):
They're better in the field. Jake McCarthy, I love him.
You know, there's so many positives there. It's just not
reflecting on the scoreboard, and that is very frustrating, extremely frustrating. Anyway,
we'll be right back. Dave Frazer, thanks for popping on
with us today.

Speaker 8 (28:39):
Yeah, no problem. I he was listening to you guys
when a Rod said, hey, I'm sure he's listening, and
I was.

Speaker 10 (28:44):
I was expecting the call.

Speaker 3 (28:46):
Well, what is going to happen this afternoon?

Speaker 7 (28:48):
Everybody wants to know.

Speaker 3 (28:49):
I need to know. Now I'm down south. I don't
see anything in my forecast that looks like it's going
to be a problem.

Speaker 8 (28:56):
Yeah, it will be. Things have changed in the last
couple of hours. So if you're looking on if you're
listening to many show and you're along the front range
from Fort Collins to Castle Rock, look off to the
west and you'll start to see these storms kind of
towering up a little bit. But really our focus is
going to be a week cold front came in overnight
into this morning, and if you're up early today, you

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probably felt it a little cooler, you probably felt it
a little more refreshing. But what you may have noticed
in the last couple of hours is.

Speaker 5 (29:23):
The humidity levels have come up, and so that.

Speaker 8 (29:27):
Cold front stalled or stopped right around Castle Rock in
arches out towards like a Kiowa and Elbert and over
towards Bennett and Deer Trail, and so that cold front
has different directions of winds on one side of it
to the other, and that's where we'll keep our eyes
this afternoon for storms to come up. We think the

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threat is hail is number one. Wind and lightning are
always a company in thunderstorms.

Speaker 10 (29:54):
And while there may be a low risk for tornados.

Speaker 8 (29:56):
I'll mention it, but really I always tend to focus
on the hail. That's the one that will do the
most destruction. Of course, lightning is the biggest threat to
us because a lot of us stay, you know.

Speaker 10 (30:05):
Spend time outside.

Speaker 8 (30:06):
So the timing is going to be right around two
o'clock maybe three should.

Speaker 10 (30:10):
Push east of the front range by six and then onto.

Speaker 8 (30:13):
The plains heading to the eastern border around seven to eight.
And those hailstorms can be you know, larger than a
quarter even bigger than that, and.

Speaker 10 (30:22):
Those are the ones that can do damage.

Speaker 8 (30:23):
I've already been asked half a dozen times about vehicles
and plants. If you have a garage, park your car, well,
if you've got plants, bring them in.

Speaker 3 (30:32):
Okay, then I'm gonna call my husband and ask him
to bring my plants in, and then if it doesn't
handle my house, he's going to be really mad at me.
So I hope you're right. I'm just saying that is
kidding here, I'm kidding.

Speaker 8 (30:44):
Here's what you should tell, Here's what you should tell Chuck.
I said the same thing to my wife as I
was leaving. She has a lot of very expensive potted plants,
including she has a high biscus tree, so they're they're
very very heavy. We put them on wheels, so I
said to her, is attention to the thunder. If you
start to hear thunder and the storms are getting closer,

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don't hesitate to protect the plants, because more than likely
any thunderstorm this afternoon can produce hail. If not hearing
the thunder and it seems like it's off in the distance,
and your house happens to wedge its way through no storms,
then don't waste the energy to bring the plants in
all right.

Speaker 3 (31:20):
So they'll all be out by this. So chances are
at three o'clock as I'm driving from the Denver Tech
Center to Oarvada, how bad is my car going to
get nailed?

Speaker 8 (31:30):
The farther north you go from Denver, I think there's
a less risk. Again, I think the risk is just
to the south and east of the city. But anytime
we have thunderstorms, we saw this a week ago, you
can get what I call outflow boundaries. If you watch
me on Fox thirty.

Speaker 10 (31:44):
One, I say it all the time.

Speaker 8 (31:45):
When thunderstorms collapse, they shoot out a gush of cold air.
It's like a mini cold front, and they race across.

Speaker 10 (31:51):
The ground, and those that air can be the focus for.

Speaker 8 (31:54):
Additional thunderstorm developments and computer models even the highest resolution.
Most sophisticated models do not handle that. We have to
track them in real time, so I will be on
guard for that this afternoon. So while I'm saying the
northern front range probably less to sea storm chances doesn't
mean an outflow doesn't kick things up.

Speaker 10 (32:11):
So I would say between two.

Speaker 8 (32:12):
And six Cheyenne Fort, Collins, Loveland, Lungmont, Denver, Castle, Rock
points south and east.

Speaker 7 (32:18):
Be prepared, Dave.

Speaker 6 (32:19):
If only they were an app with pinpoint accuracy local
to the local area, yep.

Speaker 8 (32:26):
And you can use our pinpoint Weather app, guys, because
it does have lightning detection.

Speaker 10 (32:31):
That's going to be your first defense.

Speaker 8 (32:32):
If you start to see your app telling you lightning
is within ten miles, eight miles, five miles, the storms
are getting closer, they will We actually on the app.
You've used it a lot, Mandy, there's a track on
the app, so individual thunderstorms will have an actual track
on them, and you can see what direction it's moving
and if you're in the way of that storm, and
if you are, protect the plants, cover the car, get

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it inside.

Speaker 3 (32:54):
All all that great advice from our favorite meteorologist. Hey,
and we'll talk to you again. On Wednesday.

Speaker 8 (33:01):
Sounds good.

Speaker 3 (33:01):
All right, Dave Fraser, thank you.

Speaker 7 (33:03):
With Box thirty one.

Speaker 3 (33:04):
We'll be right back.

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Speaker 1 (33:18):
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Speaker 3 (33:26):
Three many Connelly sad thing. Welcome, Welcome, Welcome to the
second hour of the show. I am your host, Mandy Connell.
That guy's Anthony Rodriguez. We have in the studio a
man that I've been following on Twitter for some time.
And I don't now, I don't know how Deep sing
Vedisha became. I don't know how he ended up in

(33:49):
my Twitter feed and and Deep, I'm gonna call it
twitter till I die, okay, No, yeah, okay, But I
started following him and I and I realized pretty quickly
that Deep and I are probably he's way far to
my left, but not like the crazy left. And he

(34:09):
presents his positions in a very clear way and in
a way that is sometimes a little bit you get
a little bit confrontational on occasion, but never nasty.

Speaker 4 (34:21):
Oh.

Speaker 9 (34:21):
I enjoyed the confrontation, but I tried not to be
nasty because, like you know, in America, you have to.
We've determined the way we get around our politics is
through speech and debate and voting, and I believe that's
how we got to get done.

Speaker 7 (34:38):
And I don't think we've done that yet.

Speaker 9 (34:40):
So yeah, I try not to get nasty, but every
now and then it's kind of fun to dunecome people.

Speaker 4 (34:44):
It you know, it is.

Speaker 3 (34:45):
But as I always say, I used to fight on
social media, and then one day I realized I don't
get paid to fight on social media. So I stopped
fighting on social media, and my life got so much happier.
So I was like, Okay, I'm done with that. Let
me ask about you first, So tell me and my
audience a little bit about how a nice man like
you of Indian immigrant parents. I read your mom's lovely

(35:05):
eulogy actually seemed like a person I would I would
like to know. Oh she was the best as she
immigrated here from India. Yea, and you are a first
generation American, I'm assuming yes, Okay, how did you end
up a nice man like you? How did you end
up a democratic socialist?

Speaker 9 (35:20):
It's actually really fun story. So I'll actually start with
my parents' story. So both of them unfortunately did pass away.
They both died at sixty five, so pretty young. They
weren't able to see the Golden years. So my father's
family's actually been in the US since nineteen twenty nine.
So my father's also an immigrant for Pajab India. His
great so his grandfather or so my grandfather's eldest brother

(35:42):
came to California nineteen twenty nine for part of the
really early first wave of Pajabi immigrants.

Speaker 7 (35:48):
For your viewers who are not who might.

Speaker 9 (35:49):
Or your audience who might not know where Pajab is,
but job is the northern part of India. It's home
to the Sikh religion, Sikhism, Sikhism or sick that's what
the religion I. So early immigrants ended up in California.
My dad ended up there along with a bunch of
his cousins and siblings and parents and all that kind
of stuff as a teenager.

Speaker 7 (36:08):
So he grew up in the Central Valley.

Speaker 9 (36:11):
He was a farm laborer, so fruit picker, irrigation ditchler,
worked on farms. Then he had an arranged marriage with
my mom, flew back overseas, they met and got married,
flew back here, so my mom went from India to
rural California.

Speaker 7 (36:25):
Oh my gosh, in rural California.

Speaker 9 (36:28):
They're there for a couple of months, and my mom's like,
I don't think we're this is going to work. We
should do something else for opportunity.

Speaker 4 (36:33):
You know.

Speaker 9 (36:34):
It's like a hard life working as a farm labor.
So they go from rural California to New York City.
So they go to New York City. My sister and
I are born there in Queens. My dad's a taxi
driver there. And then all of a sudden they're chatting
with you know, at this time, and this is the
eighties and nineties, you meet a lot of people. This
is the organic way. You got to a house parties,
You meet people, and there's a big uniqu community there.

(36:54):
And they meet this man who ends up becoming basically
closer to me as an uncle than my actual uncles.

Speaker 1 (37:00):
Right.

Speaker 9 (37:00):
He's like, Hey, it's like for the price of a
taxi medallion, we can go to this place called Colorado
and it's in the middle of California and New York.
He flew over it and we could buy a business
and a house. And they're like, okay. He wars them down.
He's like, I come up with me. So they fly
out here when I was like eight months old, and
they end up in Carra Springs, Colorado, and they fall

(37:21):
in love with it. They're like, oh my god, look
at these mountains. And this is like in the early nineties.
So like I was born in ninety two, so this
is like ninety three. They're like, wow, this is like amazing.
It's great. You can buy a house here for two
dollars and fifty cents. They end up like selling the
taxi medallion.

Speaker 7 (37:41):
Coming here.

Speaker 9 (37:42):
My dad first works as a minimum wage worker at
a gas station.

Speaker 7 (37:46):
My mom's like a homekeeper, and they.

Speaker 9 (37:49):
Started Calra Springs and they became like a pillar in
the Indian community there, right. My mom used to take
the phone book in call He Springs and look through
every single year when it came out, and she would
look for Indian names and she would just cold call them.

Speaker 3 (38:01):
Oh my gosh, that's hilarious.

Speaker 7 (38:03):
Yeah, So my mom has an interesting story.

Speaker 9 (38:05):
So she was a citizen. My dad never became a citizen,
but so my mom was a citizen. So she supported
uh Clinton Clinton, the Bush Bush that she was Obama Obama.
Then she loved Bernie Sanders in the primary and then
refused to vote in the general. Yeah, it's it's pretty interesting.
Like my mom like, uh, sometimes Republicans, sometimes we were Democrats.

(38:28):
So I grew up in car Springs, very conservative place.
Not eleven also happened there, So I grew up in
this atmosphere. So I actually grew up kind of conservative
and libertarian. I think you can even like Google finding
me quoting like libertarian scholars, like a high schooler, and
like the local gazette and stuff. So I grew up libertarian.
It was a it's an interesting moment where like we
supported Barack Obama and then the crash happened and Barack

(38:52):
Obama ran on hope and change that. Hey, this economy
is not necessarily working for you. My parents worked seven
days a week. We owned a small mom in popular store.
We were seven days a week. You know these are
you opened at a nine am and you're there toll
day night. And as a like a brown kid, I
would also be there stocking the shelves, cleaning things, helping

(39:12):
out with the family business. It's like a very Asian
American Indian American story in that way, so like kind
of bootstraps and Barack Obama coms says he's going to
run on hope and change, Like, oh, finally. Healthcare was
a big thing for my family right as small business owners.
Health care was so hard to access, and my parents
had a lot of health issues, right, That's why they
ended up passing at sixty five, and they never really
had good healthcare cover.

Speaker 7 (39:33):
So him running on that was a big deal for us.

Speaker 9 (39:35):
He kind of gets in there, kind of folds instantly,
bails out the bankers and all that kind of stuff.
So I became an Occupy Wall Street guy. Okay, so
it became an Occupy Wall Street guy saying, hey, he
bade the banks, but not Main Street. We didn't get
the healthcare we were promised from there from Occupy Wall Street,
which goes nowhere.

Speaker 7 (39:53):
I end up becoming a libertarian big l You were registered.

Speaker 9 (39:57):
I don't think it was register. I was still pretty U.
I was like, this is probably like mons eighteen. Going
to college. I became a fan of like Nicki Haley
and Bobby Jindahl and these other Indian guys in Indian
folks down in the South that were like these libertarian
Tea Party movement. So I did that, and then eventually
in college I studied economics, and I kind of studied

(40:18):
economics and philosophy, thinking I'm trying to figure out what
to do with my life. Ends up becoming more mainstream.
And then in twenty sixteen, Bernie Sanders is there and
like this makes sense to me, Like we need a
new sort of societal contract. Deep, I'm still okay with
Hillary Clinton at this time. We lose against Trump, yeah,
and I think a lot of liberals said, oh, we

(40:38):
lost against Trump for X y Z reasons. I'm like, no,
I think Trump was speaking to some parts of America
that we weren't and why was that. So that's kind
of leads me to keep going left. So joined Democratic
Socis of America and I've been on the progressive left
since joined. This whole time, I'm working on campaigns. I
worked for Udall's twenty fourteen campaign where he lost against
Corey Gardner. Were Obama's campaigns, Bernie, Hillary Clinton's a couple

(41:03):
of local cadidates, stay wide cadidates. Since that time, I
was a teacher, high school math teacher. Eventually went to
law school. Worre's a big law firm, civil rights firms,
starting my legal career clerking at the Colorouse Room Court
okay for Jessice Hearts, and then from there kind of
shift into politics, run a fellowship program, work for the
Colorado House Democrats, and be consulting as a lobbyist.

Speaker 3 (41:23):
So like a big credentials though, I mean's that's actually
I'm actually glad to know all that. That gives me
a lot of perspective of where you're coming from. So
let let me jump in and let's start with healthcare,
because I know that this is a huge issue and
the reality is nobody wants somebody to be unable to
access or have access to a doctor. And I think

(41:45):
we're both in agreement that the system we have now
is not working. But I think the difference is is
that if you're leaning into a public option, I have
to say I now have multiple stories, and I mean
one of them is my best friend who was a
part of the national healthcare system in Northern Ireland, who
had an urgent surgical consult that just never got taken

(42:10):
care of, and had I not crowdfunded eight thousand dollars
so she could pay for a gallbladder removal in an
Irish hospital, she probably would have died of sepsis because
her gallbladder was gangreeness when they actually went in to
take it out. So I have those perspectives about standardized
healthcare while I can still recognize that what we have
now is at working.

Speaker 7 (42:29):
But I don't think I don't think that's the choice.

Speaker 3 (42:32):
I think there's other ways to inject free market principles
into healthcare that benefit the patient and the healthcare system
and doctors. Knowing that there's some things you can't do
that with that, that's when you have to have some fortant,
that backstop that is critical to making sure that nobody
goes broke because they have a heart at that.

Speaker 7 (42:51):
Yeah, I mean, I have a question for you. What
percentage of bankruptcies in America are related to medical.

Speaker 3 (42:57):
Last time I saw it was like eighteen percent.

Speaker 7 (43:00):
Actually two thirds now.

Speaker 9 (43:02):
Words are related to medical issues, whether the it's broader
than that in terms of like sometimes your medical issue
leads you losing your job, which also leads to the bankruptcy.
But two thirds are medically related once and then the
other one third is just Donald Trump just doing over
and over again. I thought you were laughed at that joke,
you know, Yeah, Okay, wait, let me go back to

(43:24):
the healthcare Okay, So I think if there was more
developed economies all around the world that had our style
of healthcare system and they were doing it well, I
think we could have a leg to stand out and
be like, Okay, we can keep tweaking the system.

Speaker 7 (43:39):
Seeing at works.

Speaker 9 (43:40):
But it's actually the opposite when you go all across
the world, whether it's like a little bit of a
right wing government, more traditional or a little bit left
wing and more diverse and different. Every single development country,
whether it's the Asia, Latin America, or Europe, they figured out, hey,
having a lass a fair for prophet system in healthcare
doesn't work because the incentives in healthcare are so different

(44:03):
than making profit that the market kind of breaks that
when you are eighty years old and you know you
need this health care and stuff that you know we
can charge you whatever you want, right, it is a
broken market in that way. So every single country has
sort of figured this out except for America, and in
America I think figured it out. But there's universal health

(44:26):
care in almost every.

Speaker 3 (44:26):
Single healthcare universal health care, but they haven't figured it
out because you can't have fast, you can't have good
and you can't have free, you cannot have all three
of them.

Speaker 9 (44:35):
So America doesn't do any of those right, So we
are the most. We spend the most on healthcare for
the worst results.

Speaker 3 (44:41):
Okay, but that takes me to the third party payer.
You're talking about the market breaks there. The market isn't
being allowed to operate in healthcare. No wait, let me
let me make my point. When you've got a third
party payer system like we do now, we are taking
away any incentive for people to take care of themselves
because they know, if they are are fat and they
don't exercise and they eat garbage all the time, they're

(45:04):
still going to have the same access to healthcare if
they have, you know, with Medicare or whatever. Because a
third party payer has removed their sense of responsibility for
their own health. That's a huge problem. Now, can you
force people to try and be healthy? No, you really can't.
But the reality is there's ways to inject market forces
into healthcare that are totally disconnected. Direct primary care is

(45:26):
a perfect example of that, where you pay a monthly
membership fee. Practices take on as many patients as they
want to, and not a single one more that allows
them to spend time with their patients to actually do
prevented medicine instead of just trying to put a band
aid on whatever you're walking in the office with, you
know right now, combined with a catastrophic health care plan

(45:46):
that kicked in over a certain amount. If you have cancer,
you have a heart attack, you have any of these things.
Now you're talking about injecting free market solutions. And when
you tell someone, look, you've got this. You know you
broke your leg? Deep, sorry, you broke work my arm.
Oh geez, that looks awful.

Speaker 7 (46:02):
I broke it on January sixth oh no, on the
way to the capital. But you know what different capital.

Speaker 3 (46:07):
You have chickstigs, scars.

Speaker 7 (46:08):
So you're good.

Speaker 3 (46:10):
But so you broke your arm, and they say, deep,
we've got you get eleven thousand dollars for this particular injury.
Figure out where you want to pay it. We're giving
you eleven thousand dollars. If you want to go above
that to get the absolute best surgeon in the world, great,
If you want to go below that and pocket the rest,
do what you gotta do.

Speaker 7 (46:26):
Actually, funny thing about this arm. Actually, yeah, so I
broke this arm.

Speaker 9 (46:29):
I was walking to work, ice, snowstorm, walking to work,
freak accident. It's like a hill, so I slip, It's
like a cartoon. I go up at the hour, I
land on the arm. It breaks like oof, call of
the ambulance. Ambulance comes. My wife comes out of the
house too. I like, broke it right outside of contact.

Speaker 7 (46:46):
I come in.

Speaker 9 (46:46):
They hey, which hospital do you want to go to?
Which is such a crazy statement to happen in America
because even the ambulance people know is like, oh, this
is non life funding. We don't have to go right away.
Do you have a preference on a hospital because we
know how your insurance works. I was in pain because
my arm had just snapped in half, so I just
said the closest one. So instead of them driving me

(47:06):
just one extra block to the hospital that was in coverage,
they went to the houspital out of coverage. So I
ended up because of this mistake, paying the out of
pocket maps instead of the in pocket maxim or the
in network maximum.

Speaker 7 (47:21):
Which ended up costing me six thousand dollars and it
was not even that further away.

Speaker 9 (47:25):
I'm like, do I need to wear like a key
orico that you scan and It's like only in America
does this happen exactly the free market, Like even if
I'm buying the arguments from their side, the markets are
efficient and they're able to allocate resources and all that.
It has to happen when consumers are giving the full information,
which in healthcare they're not correct people can actually make

(47:47):
a meaningful decision, which they can. Usually healthcare is being
provided to you at an emergency level, right, You're not
able to be like, oh, you have cancer, Yeah, give
me a couple of weeks to research for that results.

Speaker 3 (48:00):
I mean, you're talking about a true emergency, like what
you experienced. That is a true emergency.

Speaker 7 (48:04):
It's true emergency, whether it's like a cancer diagnosis.

Speaker 5 (48:07):
Maybe.

Speaker 9 (48:08):
Let's say you are a woman who gets pregnant and
you're looking for options about where you want to give birth.
You're kind of forced into like, oh, this hospital's a
little bit further away, webbens. If I go into a
labor right away, do I need to drive a another
fifteen twenty minutes. It's funny, So my wife, she gave
birth at Rose, but on the way we passed three

(48:29):
other birth in hospitals right that were closer, But Rose
was the one we love rose.

Speaker 7 (48:34):
It was great. It was the one in network sure.

Speaker 9 (48:36):
And it's like the market doesn't necessarily work because when
you're looking for ice cream as a consumer, distance does
matter for you, right, Like you're trying to go for like.

Speaker 7 (48:44):
All, don't you drive ice cream?

Speaker 9 (48:46):
Healthcare is not a consumer product, and if you treated
like a consumer product, you're going to end up sort
of like how everything else has Hellier recommend this book
called in Shitification.

Speaker 3 (48:58):
I read it, Oh yes, and it's the and for
every day you read book wonders what it is the
the way a system is designed to purposely get worse
over time. It's not a bug, it's a feature.

Speaker 9 (49:11):
So if you have a healthcare system that is trying
to squeeze every single drop of profit out of this system, right,
that means consumers, I actually.

Speaker 7 (49:21):
Don't care about your health the most I care about profit.

Speaker 9 (49:24):
Doctors, actually I want you to work at forty eight
hour shift because that's what makes sense for me. Uh, Nurses,
It's okay if you don't have this credential, this credential,
we're going to do this. Oh, we can pay with
travel ners every if you want, every single part of
your system to put profit above people.

Speaker 7 (49:39):
This is the system you're going to get in.

Speaker 9 (49:42):
There are I think we can agree that there are
certain areas of the economy where profit probably doesn't make sense.

Speaker 7 (49:48):
Another one, I think the industrial competent.

Speaker 3 (49:51):
I mean, okay, we'll come to that in a second,
because I could talk about that as well. But you
you assume that there is some incentive if the government
takes it over, that the government will put people first.
And I would have you look at Canada right now,
where it seems like they're just killing people to get
them off the national healthcare system. When you were in

(50:12):
the western provinces of Canada, you can't find a doctor,
a primary care doctor because there aren't enough doctors. And
the difference between a hospital system, which I could agree
with you that that is also a monopoly that needed
to be busted up. The hospital systems are out of
control now because of Obamacare. But the reality is government
has its own incentive. Government has every incentive to put

(50:35):
the squeeze on healthcare because it becomes such a massive expense.
When you look at Medicaid in the state of Colorado,
that is a major chunk of our budget, and no
one in that ecosystem has any desire to either save
the taxpayers who are now on the hook for someone
else's health care, or even save the patients. We just
cut spending for care for disabled people because we have

(50:57):
a budget shortage. So to assume that such pressures will
never be brought to bear if the government takes it over,
it's just it's already been just proven.

Speaker 5 (51:06):
I think you know.

Speaker 9 (51:07):
It's one of my comrades brothers an arm A Zorta
mom Donnie talks about this in New York City in particular, right.

Speaker 7 (51:16):
That government.

Speaker 9 (51:18):
People have lost faith in government, right, They're like, my
trash isn't being picked up right now? You can't Sometimes
you're not running our schools appropriately, Like how why would
I trust you with the.

Speaker 7 (51:27):
Big stuff if you get the little stuff wrong?

Speaker 9 (51:29):
I do agree we need to talk about government capacity
and government efficiency. We have let our public services dwindle
so hard that we're not able to solve problems. So
I get everything you're saying that, Like I don't trust
the government, how can I trust that it's going to
do X, Y Z fairly? That you need to build
you need to I think we have underfunded I think

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one America is probably one of the most corrupt countries
in the entire world in terms of our payd place.

Speaker 3 (51:59):
Okay, that thought, I'm the country.

Speaker 7 (52:01):
How you with deep seeing Medasha.

Speaker 3 (52:04):
I put a link to his twitter feed if you.

Speaker 7 (52:05):
Want to follow.

Speaker 3 (52:05):
This is fascinating. We're going, We're going, We're keeping this going.

Speaker 7 (52:08):
We'll be back.

Speaker 3 (52:09):
I want to wrap up the conversation about healthcare with this.
We are now just now finding out that probably all
over the country, there is a staggering level of Medicaid fraud.

Speaker 7 (52:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (52:22):
We are also seeing new investigations into the Medicare advantage plans.
My mom has a Medicare advantage plan. She absolutely loves it,
loves everything about it. But apparently they are rife with
corruption or the possibility of corruption. So what makes you
think that's better just that part of it?

Speaker 7 (52:39):
Can I just ask you a question?

Speaker 9 (52:40):
Sure, would you agree that we should lock up anyone
who's committed maybe fifty million dollars more of Medicare fraud?

Speaker 7 (52:48):
Absolutely? And if it was like five hundred million.

Speaker 9 (52:50):
Dollars, definitely And okay, so you agree that we should
arrest and lock up senator Republican Senator Rick Scott of
Florida because he's only five billion dollars going to care fraud.

Speaker 3 (53:04):
No, well, head, he was the head of Humana when
all of that happened, and that what deep. Yeah, I'm
perfectly fine with that, But again, you kind of glossed
over the fact you went to a private citizen ignored.
I mean, we're talking about billions and billions and billions
probably in fraud. We just got a great and I
don't know if you saw the series in the Denver

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Gazette about one company that has probably built Colorado for
twenty six million dollars and all of the incentives. There's
no incentive in a government program for anyone to look
out for the taxpayer. And that's my issue.

Speaker 9 (53:38):
I believe that you can have a government that is
more responsive to the people, that has that for zones,
for example, when you have those I forgot what they're called.
My lawyer friends are gonna the inspector generals right for
every single agency in the federal government or local government
that's supposed to go after and look for these frauds.
Donald Trump gutted all the inspectors generals, so it's harder

(54:01):
to find these frauds. We're giving the job at the Diress,
you got these things. I agree, people who are scamming
the American people, this is our taxpayer money.

Speaker 4 (54:11):
Right.

Speaker 9 (54:11):
When this is when you are robbing the American taxpayer,
you should be treated as a crime against society.

Speaker 7 (54:19):
On PENT agree with that, right.

Speaker 9 (54:21):
I see oftentimes when it is this Medicare frauds, it
oftentimes is companies. Sometimes it's healthcare providers. And I agree
you need to if we're going to expand Medicare, I
would leave in Medicare for all our universal health care system.
You need to be able to have government efficiency there.

Speaker 7 (54:36):
But I think, but let me ask you this question.
You're assuming can be solved, but you're assuming have gutted.

Speaker 3 (54:44):
Wait, let me just take it down to its most
like most basic points.

Speaker 7 (54:48):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (54:48):
Milton Friedman, my economic hero, use the phrase like he
would talk about, where are these angels that you're going
to get to work in government? Where are these special
magical people that are always going to put the taxpayers
best best needs at heart? Because currently they're overseeing massive
amounts of Medicaid fraud. Currently they're turning a blind eye

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when you have one home healthcare agency that has two
thousand hospice patients and one doctor. You know they're not
doing the job. So where do you find the people
that are going to run this this system that you
think is going to be superior to a system that
is not perfect. It is very imperfect. But in the
free market system, at least there is some measure of

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potential accountability. You have the tor you have the courts,
you have people that can be fired for not performing
at a high level. You have you have various ways,
various levers to rectify the situation. You have no such
levers when government runs everything.

Speaker 9 (55:46):
I don't believe that's true, like a government needs it.
I'm a democratic socialist, right, which would mean you need
a robust political system in a voting body that can
hold its government accountable.

Speaker 4 (55:58):
Right.

Speaker 9 (55:58):
It's not just like you get people on the top
and they have no accountability, they have no checks and balance. Right,
you need to set up a government that would have them.
But let me talk about this poor prophet system real quick,
and how little accountability is and what it does to
our healthcare in America. There's oftentimes not pre screening for
sea sections. Oftentimes Asian women in particular and some Latin

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women have smaller pelvises, and because they have smaller pelvises
in those countries of origin, they oftentimes will actually screen
to say, oh, it looks like you're going to have
like a rough natural delivery, so I think we should
opt for sea section kills will be a safe review.
My wife when she went into labor, she was in
labor for like almost three days. At the end, when
she was pushing, they're like, hey, we don't think you're

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gonna be able to do this. We have to do
emergency C section. So it was like a surreal experience.
We were wake for like twenty four to forty eight hours,
wheeled her in SHESC section and it worked out well.
And after that experience, my wife started talking to our
circle in our community and a lot of Indian America
woman and they're like, Hey, that same thing happened to me.
That happened to me, that happened to me, And I'm like,
that's crazy. I know so many people of the medicare system,

(57:07):
medical system. Let me ask what's going on. Let me
just my research. When I started doing this research, this
is what I found out in the American healthcare system,
private healthcare providers and insurance companies a C section costs
them five times or ten times as much as a
natural delivery, because the natural delivery you're usually out of

(57:28):
the hospital within twenty four to forty eight hours. A
c section you're usually there from anywhere from four to
eight days. Because medical because birth is so expensive, you
will always hit your out of pocket max. So for
the consumer, right, it doesn't really affect me. I'm going
to pay a eight thousand dollars deductive or sorry, eight
thousand dollars out of pocket max. Either way, the medical

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companies and the healthcare providers have determined, hey, we are
writing in this provision here into the insurance protocol that
you have to try for a live birth at all costs,
and only when it's failing do you switch to a
C section.

Speaker 3 (58:05):
And you know cost. I mean you've seen this, you've
seen the information, you've seen the.

Speaker 9 (58:10):
And it's not all healthcare providers do this. Some healthcare
providers are like, no, you can screen for this. Some
healthcare providers the other way. But Unit says, America, of
all the developed countries, is the one that has the
highest maternal mortality rate. Mothers die more in childbirth in
America than any other development country in the world. And

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it's because but here's the thing. Our healthcare companies are
making bank, our doctors are making bank because they prioritize
money over children, over babies, over moms.

Speaker 7 (58:45):
And that's the system that we need to tackle.

Speaker 9 (58:47):
I actually believe that free market economics is really good
in terms of it's really good at achieving its incentives.
We have developed this late stage capitalism, crony capitalism. If
you want that, if you markets are really efficient at
maximizing what they want. Right now, we have told all
our markets, we have told our all economies, all the shareholders,
We've told all the capital in America. Maximize profit at

(59:10):
all costs. If you need to maximize profit above the environment,
do it above human life, do it above children.

Speaker 7 (59:16):
Do it if you want to hit these kids addicted
to social media, to do it. And that's the thing.

Speaker 9 (59:21):
Markets will maximize all the way to the top. And
what happens in economics is the companies that make the
most money people might have incentive to make a new
company to compete against them. But now what we have
is market concentration, where if you're a Facebook and you
start getting a competition from another social media, well I'm

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ten billion dollars.

Speaker 7 (59:43):
I'm gonna buy you and the human.

Speaker 3 (59:45):
We're not even that. I mean, then you're talking about
monopoly stuff. I'm going to run out of town because
we got to take ant of the raakcare. But you know,
oh no, it's okay. The notion that somehow you can
use maternal health and extrapolate that out to everything.

Speaker 7 (01:00:02):
There are.

Speaker 3 (01:00:04):
Pressures in the current system. I hate the current system.
I think the current system sucks. But I'm not looking
for ways to have government which Obamacare was supposed to
get everybody on a health care plan that didn't work.
Obamacare was allegedly going to reduce costs way no, but
that's what government gave us.

Speaker 7 (01:00:22):
This is the problem.

Speaker 3 (01:00:23):
You would have put the same people in charge of
creating a national run healthcare system.

Speaker 7 (01:00:29):
You brought it up earlier.

Speaker 3 (01:00:31):
They can't do anything well, and now you're going to
put them in charge of our health. If you don't
think the government will deny a procedure because you need
it because they don't have the money to pay for it,
that's just naive. The government will absolutely say no, and
they'll say no in a multitude of ways. They will
slow down the approval process for anything. They will you
won't have enough health care resources in order to access

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healthcare health care resources in a timely fashion. We'll continue
this after the break. We'll be right back with deep
sing Pradasha. Let me ask you a philosophical question in
this last segment. Yes, socialism has failed every single time
it's been tried.

Speaker 7 (01:01:04):
Why is that?

Speaker 9 (01:01:06):
Well, I don't think it's actually been tried in the
way that we're aiming for and.

Speaker 7 (01:01:12):
Has failed. Let me talk about China.

Speaker 3 (01:01:15):
I stop there. That is literally the answer of every
socialist everywhere, and I can tick off example after example
after example after example where it has been tried and
it failed.

Speaker 7 (01:01:27):
So it's.

Speaker 9 (01:01:32):
We'll keep this a little bit philosophical, right in terms
of like when I go to Democratic Socialists of America
conferences and stuff, people just call me like a capitalist,
which is kind of funny because I see myself as
a democratic socialist and other people don't write so like socialism, capitalism,
these kind of buzzwords is it's it's people kind of
missed the point. Lauren Belbert was on the floor of

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the House talking about our corrupt system in America and
how the winners keep winning and she called it croading
cap someone else went down to the floor and called
a lake stage capitalism. And it's like, Okay, we seem
like we have a problem. And if we want to
use words like socialism, capitalism to describe them, whatever it is,
what it is. I will say, when you look around

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the world at collectivist societies, whatever you want to call them,
I think they are doing really well. China has a
population over a billion people. They have lifted more people
out of poverty than almost the rest of the world combined.
Their cities are becoming cleaner. They're on the track to

(01:02:34):
have a cleaner energy economy than we are.

Speaker 3 (01:02:37):
More coal fired power plants right now than anywhere else
in the world.

Speaker 9 (01:02:41):
They're also building ten new nuclear reactors, which are also
clean energy as well. They're building Their air is going
to be cleaner than ours.

Speaker 7 (01:02:49):
Their water is going to be cleaner than ours. They're
going to have more.

Speaker 9 (01:02:51):
Healthcare, their kids go to school more than us.

Speaker 7 (01:02:54):
They're going to have more vacation time.

Speaker 4 (01:02:56):
In US.

Speaker 3 (01:02:56):
Social scores, they can be prevented from flying.

Speaker 7 (01:02:58):
They have social scores, high credit reports.

Speaker 3 (01:03:01):
Yeah, but if I have a credit card, and if
I have a five and a credit score, the airline's
not going to check my credit sCOD before running my
credit cards.

Speaker 7 (01:03:07):
Also that they have a lotown it is because you
can have choices.

Speaker 9 (01:03:12):
When dictators talked about efflectivist societies, also they call themsel
If you look at the left wing governments of Europe,
in the scandin Navian countries, they call themselves socialists or
the social democrats, and they.

Speaker 3 (01:03:26):
Get parties, but they do not have a socialist system.

Speaker 7 (01:03:28):
Will say this about all these ideas.

Speaker 9 (01:03:31):
These ideas were created one hundred, two hundred, three hundred
years ago, oftentimes not with an imagination about what the
economy would do, what would go on, the complexity that
would happen, not only in certain nations of states, but
the world. If you want to look at socialism in
terms of the class orientation, about do you want your
government to be for the working class first or do

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you want capitalism which is for capital owners.

Speaker 3 (01:03:59):
For that's not necessarily true capitalist. One thing you're talking
about socialism and capitalism being created as systems. You know,
they should have been able to project out the end
result of whatever they're doing. But that's you're missing the
complete Wait wait, wait, you're missing the complete underpinning of
capitalism versus socialism, and that is human nature. People work

(01:04:20):
for themselves. They work to protect themselves for their and
their families way harder than they're going to work for
anybody else. And I would urge you to talk to
anyone who ever lived on a commune in the sixties,
and they will tell you what true socialism, where everybody
is supposed to come and pitch in together for the collective,
what ends up happening is you have a group of

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people that decide to create this utopian society in a
very small way on a commune, and what happens is
word gets out and here come the slackers and the losers,
and they want to come in and reap the benefits
of that society, but they don't want to do the work.
That is where socialism fails. And at that point you
have to become totalitarianism in order to force the people
to do the crappy jobs that no one wants to

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do for no personal benefit.

Speaker 9 (01:05:05):
I mean, if we're just gonna have these fun hypotheticals,
I can have fun hypothetical too, right well. Late today's
capitalism or capitalism that you're just saying is also failing.
We say, we're trying to look out for people's interests. Right,
Look what's happening in America. Look what's happening in South Korea.
Look at what's happening in Japan. Look at the other
countries that have rippled through capitalism. Germany, people are starting

(01:05:27):
to op out of society almost. They're like, you know what,
I'm not gonna get married. You know what, I don't
want kids anymore. Things are too expensive. So capitalism is
actually leading to a point where I'm not even saying this.
It's the billionaires and the oligarchs and the millionaires who
are like, oh my god, if we don't figure out
if this capitalism things, we might not have kids or
a population anymore. So if capitalism is so wonderful, why
is it failing all across the world. Capitalism is the

(01:05:50):
opposite where greed will always win, free will always win,
the cheaters will always win.

Speaker 7 (01:05:54):
No, you you make the right.

Speaker 3 (01:05:57):
No, you use trying as an example. So I'm Gonnau
whose China. China has got a billion people. They also
enslaved people to work in factories who happen to be
millslim weekers. They don't treat their their people equitably. If
you say the wrong thing, you can still be disappeared.
Just ask the guy who owns Ali Baba. He's not
disappearing people. There are no people in labor here, journals

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using journalists, and he's going to lose.

Speaker 9 (01:06:22):
That's just the reality of decisions. Actually, and he got
them to settle.

Speaker 7 (01:06:26):
He got let me make this way.

Speaker 3 (01:06:29):
We're almost out time. We'll do this again. The reality
is is that socialism has failed over and over and
over and over again because of human nature, because people
like to own stuff, because people are going to work
harder to feed their family than they are going to
work ever to feed someone else's family. You have to
solve that problem before I would ever buy into any

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socialist society ever.

Speaker 7 (01:06:53):
I mean that that we're out of time.

Speaker 3 (01:06:56):
I'm show.

Speaker 7 (01:07:00):
On my Twitter.

Speaker 9 (01:07:00):
I'm gonna have my last word there, subscribe my Instagram, TikTok.

Speaker 7 (01:07:03):
I'm gonna put a video.

Speaker 3 (01:07:04):
We'll do this again.

Speaker 7 (01:07:05):
This has been on all social media.

Speaker 3 (01:07:07):
I've enjoyed the heck out of this. We'll we'll dissect
another topic next time.

Speaker 7 (01:07:10):
Okay, okay, we'll be right back.

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Speaker 3 (01:07:39):
Welcome donc to the third hour of the show. That
was rousing hour. I thoroughly enjoyed that.

Speaker 7 (01:07:45):
I hope you guys did too.

Speaker 3 (01:07:46):
We're gonna have deep on again, talk about it's it's
fascinating to just like hear how someone else looks at
the world. It's fascinating and and so much. I mean,
I hope I gave him stuff to think about out
I'm sure he gave me things to think about. Mandy.
I always learned something from your show. Now I know

(01:08:07):
that to disappear someone means to file a lawsuit against
him in a court of law. While by the way,
I can't believe your guest has ever been to China,
not making it in. China has a much lower standard
of living than in the US. China has lifted the
standard of living for many of their people, but not
remotely as well as capitalism has done for the rest

(01:08:27):
of the world. As a matter of fact, all of this,
you know, prosperity in China is because they have adopted
more capitalist principles into their economy, not in spite of it.
It's actually the reason in any case, I want to
talk just really shortly. By the way, if you haven't
checked the blog today, and you could always check the

(01:08:47):
blog and not subscribe, but why wouldn't you subscribe once
you were already checking the blog?

Speaker 7 (01:08:51):
Did you see the picture of.

Speaker 3 (01:08:53):
The banner that's on the blog today, Anthony, And it
is apparently outside a coffee place in Parker and it
says Victor marks for governor and they spelled governor wrong

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somehow perfect exactly. I know, I know, I totally know.
I have so much good stuff on the blog today.
I'm not gonna have time to do most of it,
so I might just do this tomorrow. But I have
a story on the blog today about an Indian man

(01:09:36):
who decided to accept a challenge made via some sort
of website where crypto canal issue challenges and they pay
people to do certain things. It's a marketplace where users
can post tasks and have to offer cryptocurrency rewards to
people willing to complete them. One particular bounty promised forty

(01:09:58):
solana tokens to any willing to tattoo, and it is
dollar sign.

Speaker 7 (01:10:06):
Booty work on their forehead.

Speaker 3 (01:10:09):
At that time, the reward was valued at about twenty
five hundred and eighty five dollars. An Indian man accepted
the challenge. He visited a local tattoo studio and documented
the entire process. The footage showed the permanent tattoo being
applied to his forehead. He later submitted the video was
proof he had completed the task. For a brief moment,
it appeared the challenge had been successfully completed. Then the

(01:10:33):
controversy began. It seems that they misspelled dollar sign booty
work was supposed to be dollar sign bounty work. He
tattooed booty work on his forehead and the company says

(01:10:55):
they won't pay. Now, if he was in America, he
could sue. But it got interesting after that. So he
took to sort of social media and was like, look,
I've done this incredibly dumb thing and now they're not
paying me. And so according to crypto commenters, they a

(01:11:18):
lot of people. Creator fees linked the newly leaned token
were reportedly directed to a revu. He made his own
crypto coin and it made about seventeen thousand dollars. But
now he has to walk around with the words booty
work on his forehead. This man did not think these
things through. He did not not at all. Hey, Ron,

(01:11:42):
how much would it take money wise? Cash money? What
kind of cash money would you need to tattoo something
on your forehead like booty work? And by the way,
it's bo u t y work. So I mean maybe
not as bad.

Speaker 7 (01:11:56):
How big?

Speaker 5 (01:11:56):
How small?

Speaker 3 (01:11:58):
I mean, let me just say this, it's not going
to be unnoticeable. Maybe from here to here here to
hear on your forehead?

Speaker 5 (01:12:05):
Can I can I get the money and then have
it removed?

Speaker 3 (01:12:08):
You can do whatever you want after you get a tattoo. Yeah, million,
just a cold million. You're always going to have a
faint scar, you know, Mandy. I think it's pretty rich
that during that interview with Welker, Trump asked if she's
seen the video of January sixth, maybe he needs to

(01:12:29):
rewatch it. He's a scumbag thug.

Speaker 2 (01:12:31):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:12:32):
Of course, this Texter who hates Trump is talking about
Trump's interview with Kristin Welker for Meet the Press, an
interview that he stormed out of in a fit of peak,
a big, big fit of peak. And I have that
for you, Rod, Can I have my audio please?

Speaker 10 (01:12:49):
Sir?

Speaker 7 (01:12:50):
All right, and we go.

Speaker 5 (01:12:54):
It was a dirty election. Is happening again right now
in tell.

Speaker 11 (01:13:00):
Right now in California, right now, it's looking.

Speaker 5 (01:13:03):
Look at what's happening in California.

Speaker 11 (01:13:05):
It's four days in California.

Speaker 5 (01:13:09):
It's now.

Speaker 11 (01:13:09):
They're not there dropping fast because it's a rigged election.

Speaker 5 (01:13:12):
Let me tell you, it's four.

Speaker 11 (01:13:14):
Days and they aren't even close to coming up with it.
You know why they're doing that, because they're cheating on
the election.

Speaker 3 (01:13:21):
What do you have evidence?

Speaker 5 (01:13:23):
All I have to do is look.

Speaker 7 (01:13:24):
All have to do is listen, not up there, you guys.

Speaker 3 (01:13:29):
Feelings are not facts. That's the mantra from now on.
Feelings are not facts. Facts are not feelings.

Speaker 5 (01:13:35):
Listen to people and let's see what happens.

Speaker 3 (01:13:37):
That's not evident. Do you think it's appropriate the votes?

Speaker 5 (01:13:41):
Do you think it's appropriate that they have.

Speaker 11 (01:13:43):
An election and five days later they're nowhere close.

Speaker 3 (01:13:46):
To picking up Local officials acknowledge they are slow.

Speaker 7 (01:13:49):
They're urging.

Speaker 11 (01:13:50):
No, they're crooked, urging the votes to be counted quickly.

Speaker 3 (01:13:52):
That's how they crooked.

Speaker 7 (01:13:53):
It's just like your crooked.

Speaker 11 (01:13:55):
Your presen is crooked and meet the presents crooked.

Speaker 7 (01:13:57):
To be fair, I'm not crooked, but really, when you right.

Speaker 11 (01:14:00):
Into their hands out, you're either crooked or you're stupid.
Let you play right into their hands with this rep
You know that these elections are rigged.

Speaker 7 (01:14:09):
Your network knows.

Speaker 5 (01:14:11):
That they're rigged.

Speaker 11 (01:14:12):
You know that I won an election in a landslide
and I got ninety.

Speaker 7 (01:14:17):
Four bad press.

Speaker 11 (01:14:19):
You know why I got that presented because you have
no credibility.

Speaker 3 (01:14:22):
But you've never presented evidence that it was rigged. Let's
keep talking about I want to talk about Tom.

Speaker 11 (01:14:25):
You have more evidence, there's more evidence.

Speaker 5 (01:14:28):
Than ever presented.

Speaker 11 (01:14:30):
Let's talk your elections in this country.

Speaker 5 (01:14:32):
We're like a third world country.

Speaker 11 (01:14:34):
Your elections are crooked, and you're crooked and leave the
press is crookeds.

Speaker 3 (01:14:39):
And I got to tell you, it's like, it's just this,
This is so counterproductive. I feel the same way watching
this as I feel with Scott Bottom's just shouting that
everyone's corrupt. In there's indictments with absolutely no proof. You think,
at this point we have it's something concrete to point two,

(01:15:02):
but yet we don't. As a counterbalance, when I say
we've got to have some proof of problems and elections. Well,
let's talk about what's happening in New Jersey right now.
The New Jersey Republican Party reviewed voter data from all
twenty one counties and found about fifty cases where non
citizens seeking naturalization as to be removed from the voter rules,

(01:15:27):
often stating they were unknowingly registered. Most of the DMV
and most were registered as Democrats. Some had voting records
dating back to two thousand and two thousand and one. Now,
fifty is not a large number. It is not a
large number at all. But the RNC now says, look,

(01:15:49):
we need to start looking through the voter rules. We
need to make sure that the people who are registered
to vote. And I would guarantee you that there are
people in Colorado who are here illegally who are registered
to vote. It's almost impossible because we get my driver's
licenses just like New Jersey to illegal aliens. So there's
I would say there's probably a one hundred percent chance. Now,

(01:16:11):
how many enough to swing an election? I have no idea.
But the argument the RNC is making is these people
self reported, they were the ones that came in because
they're seeking naturalization, and they can't have that on. You know,
they're coming in and saying, wait, I need to be
taken off the voter rolls, So what about the people

(01:16:32):
that are not self reporting? So as crazy as Donald
Trump looked in that and as crazy as the accusations
with no proof make me because without proof, they are
just feelings. And again, feelings are not facts. Facts are
not feelings. So I'm kind of interested to see how

(01:16:54):
this all plays out. And the best way to ensure
election integrity is to get people elected who can do
something about it, who can do something in the Secretary
of State's office to ensure that the voter rules are
as clean as they can be. But instead we have

(01:17:15):
a bunch of people running around making Tina Peters the
issue instead of actually election integrity. Because let me tell
you something, if you have a candidate who is pro
Tina Peters, they are not going to get an independent
vote in this state. They're not going to get the
unaffiliated vote in the general election. It's just not going
to happen because most people recognize Tina Peters committed a crime.

(01:17:38):
She may be well intentioned, but she committed a crime,
multiple crimes. Anyway, when we get back, we've got representative
Jeff Craik. He is popping on the show today to
talk about a couple of things. One some cool stuff
that is coming to his district because ultimately he is
running for reelection. But I also want to ask him

(01:17:59):
his thought on the war in Iran. We haven't gotten
that to that today on the show. The word ceasefire,
we're just gonna have to redefine it in the dictionary
because Israel Iran, they're all at the Hohotis, they are
all redefining the word ceasefire. It's kind of ridiculous that

(01:18:24):
the notion that there was a ceasefire at all at
this point. So I want to ask him about that
and everything else, and we'll do that after this. Keep
it on KOA Representative Jeff Crank from the third Congressional
district in Campuses, el Paso County. What else is your
district encompass, Jeff.

Speaker 4 (01:18:43):
Well, it's literally El Paso County. It's actually the fifth
Congressional district, but yang it is. It is most of
El Paso County. There's a little sliver out east of
El Paso County that is in Lauren Bobert's fourth Congressional district.

Speaker 3 (01:18:59):
That's nice for you because the fourth is huge.

Speaker 4 (01:19:02):
Yeah, no, yeah, I can drive across it in forty
five minutes.

Speaker 3 (01:19:08):
That as a politician who will run for office, that's
got to be nice for you. Let's talk about what
you've been up to the last couple of years. You're
running for reelection, of course, and I think let's talk
about some of the stuff that's been going on with
you as the representative.

Speaker 4 (01:19:27):
Well, I mean, first, the biggest thing, biggest challenge we've
had for our district and really for Colorado over the
last eighteen months. You know that I've since I've gotten
elected was the loss of Space Command US Space Command
in Colorado Springs. And you know, we had some politicians
that wanted to throw fits and use that as a

(01:19:48):
way to kick sand in the face of Donald Trump
and the Trump administration. I chose a different tact, right,
I chose to work with the administration. And we do that,
by the way, and I'll Paso County, our sheriff works
with ICE, our district attorney helps work with ICE. We
we don't try and have a fight with the president

(01:20:10):
on everything down there.

Speaker 7 (01:20:12):
And so.

Speaker 4 (01:20:14):
That's the way I took it, was to represent my
community and so we did that and I worked with
the administration, and you know, about ten days ago or so,
we were rewarded in that and we were you know,
Secretary of the Air Force came out, did a press
conference with me, and we talked about some investments that

(01:20:34):
they're making in Olpaso County that you know, the loss
of Space Command would be about one thousand jobs, about
six hundred civilian jobs and about four hundred military jobs.
But we just announced three different things coming to El
Paso County from Space Force itself. One of those is
a space Operations Center that will be built at Schreber

(01:20:56):
Space Force Space and that alone will be about fifty
seven hundred jobs, twenty five civilian jobs and a total
of fifty seven hundred. And you know, I like to
tell people, you know, I know I'm in Congress. I
know I spent a lot of time in Washington, d C.
Maybe I'm not as good with math as some people
would think because of that, right, because we're not very
good with math here. Last time I counted fifty seven hundreds,

(01:21:18):
a lot better than a thousand. And that's what you get,
is you get a win when you actually work, when
you want to work, with other levels of government. That's
what our citizens expect and that's what we do.

Speaker 3 (01:21:29):
So jess that part of it, the loss of space
Force that was a space Worce command. I should be clear, right,
that felt that was such a what am I trying
to think here? It felt more political than those decisions
are often political. They're always political to some extent.

Speaker 7 (01:21:50):
I mean, they just are.

Speaker 3 (01:21:51):
Do you feel like there was anything else that the
Colorado delegations could have done.

Speaker 9 (01:21:58):
Well?

Speaker 4 (01:21:58):
I mean, first of all, there was a basing study.
There are actually a couple of basing studies, and during
you know, it's kind of a political football during the
first Trump administration and during the Biden administration and back
and forth. And look, there's arguments to both sides. I mean,
I see where Alabama has making the argument they wanted
some redundancy in the system. Right, You've got Northern Command

(01:22:22):
in Colorado Springs, you have currently US Space Command, you
have all of those space assets there. Their argument was
there should be some redundancy in the system so that
you know, if something is taken out or you have
a cyber attack on an installation or something like that,
you have some other things other places. So they made
that case, I didn't agree with it. I still think

(01:22:44):
it belongs in Colorado. But look, I mean to me,
if we sit and fight over that forever, we're going
to miss out on the much bigger pie. And the
bigger pie is Golden Dome. On the chair of the
Golden Dome Caucus in kinds and you know, Golden Dome
and what we're going to spend. We just allocated twenty

(01:23:05):
five billion dollars to Golden Dome in the One Big
Beautiful Bill. There's far more there that we can capitalize
on as a community in Colorado Springs and in the
state of Colorado that there was to sit and fight
over six hundred jobs at Space Command. And so you know,
to me, it's like, you know, I'm just not going

(01:23:25):
to keep fighting over it. I thought as a delegation
we stood firm together in a bipartisan way. But there
were some and you see it right now. You see
it in these TV ads that people are running right now.
And in the Democratic primary, you know, you got Michael
Bennett tell saying that that Phil Wiser didn't sue Donald

(01:23:47):
Trump enough. And then you got Phil Wiser going back
and say, well you didn't you didn't fight him enough.
You approved six of his nominees. That was six too many,
in the words of phil Wiser. So I mean they
want to sit and fight and play political games. Somebody
has to step up and kind of lead and be
the adult in the room.

Speaker 7 (01:24:06):
And I tried to do that.

Speaker 5 (01:24:08):
My community did that.

Speaker 4 (01:24:09):
My community stood with me on it. We filed an
amicus brief against that. Well, we didn't file it. The
color of Springs Chamber of Commerce did, and our community
supported it. Our city council and our County Commission supported
an amicus brief opposing phil Wiser suing because phil Wiser
never came to Colorado Springs and to our city and said, hey,

(01:24:31):
what do you want me to do? He just did
it because it made him feel good. To add to
the lawsuits against the Trump administration.

Speaker 3 (01:24:38):
I we're in agreement on that one. Let me shift
gears a little bit, because today I get up and
I've been following the war in Iran very carefully. A
lot of Republicans are growing increasingly worried that if gas
prices are not or there's not some sort of resolution,
that it could very much hurt Republicans in the mid

(01:24:58):
term elections, But for me it feels a lot more personal.
I have family in Israel and I talk to them often,
and their frustration is Israel is currently fighting for its
existence and we're fighting over oil prices. So there's a
disconnect there. And I would love to hear your thoughts
overall on the war in Iran and what you would
like to see happen here.

Speaker 4 (01:25:20):
Well, look, I supported this president because this is something
that for forty seven years they've waged war against Israel
and the United States, by the way, killing thousands of
American service personnel and civilians throughout those forty seven years
with their terror that they've exported. So I was with

(01:25:41):
the president and look, I've seen some intelligence. We can't
get too much into that, but I can say this.
I think the President acted to say to stop an
attack that was being planned on US service personnel within
the region. Right, we have many military installations where our
US members are serving in that region that are vulnerable

(01:26:04):
to a ballistic missile attack from Iran. They were preparing
an attack, and I think the President did what he
needed to do to protect our men and women in
the military. And I'd make the argument that you know,
if he hadn't done that and there had been an attack,
wouldn't the left right now be trying to impeach him
for that? I mean, this president can't win for anything.

(01:26:26):
But look, I think it's a good thing that we
in a lot of ways, we have a president. He's
not going to make a bad deal just to you know,
make us feel better or do better in the midterms.

Speaker 10 (01:26:37):
I think, look, he knows the.

Speaker 4 (01:26:39):
Political pressure, he understands it, but he wants a deal
that's going to last. And we've had too many deals
that were for political convenience with Iran over the years,
including President Obama and his buy off of Iran with
pallets full of cash. So I think we've got to
give the president. We've got to give him time to

(01:27:01):
do this. And I just tell folks to have some patients.
I have a little more access to intelligence, some of
the military intelligence that's out there, but I don't have
as much as the president does. He knows more about
what's happening in Iran and whether they're serious about negotiating
with us than you or I do, and we have
to just trust that that president would do it. The

(01:27:23):
last thing I'd say is this, I would hope that
if we have a Democrat president. Right now, I tell
people I'm a supporter of the nation of Israel. I
would support our commander in chief if he were a
Democrat in stopping this scourge that has happened for forty
seven years. I wouldn't play politics with it. And I
just wish that we would hold democrats accountable for the

(01:27:44):
same that same belief, because they've all told us how
much they supported Israel, and then when it came time,
they cut baden Ran.

Speaker 3 (01:27:54):
I mean, we could spend the next twenty minutes talking
about the rise of anti Semitism on the left we wlled.
But for me, I'm going to be perfectly frank, anything
short of regime change is going to feel like a failure.
And that is just because, as you said, for forty
nine years, they have exported terror, They have oppressed ninety

(01:28:14):
million people in Iran. They have been launching, you know,
through their proxies, the Huthis or Amas or Hezbolah. They
have been attacking Israel relentlessly for the last forty nine years.
What are your thoughts, do we try to pursue regime
change or would you be satisfied with a deal with
the Mulas, who I have no faith in them actually
living up to any deal that they sign on to.

Speaker 4 (01:28:39):
Well, again, I think we have to trust that the
President has more intel and understands whether they're being genuine
and whether they are really negotiating in good faith or not.
I think there's different factions right that. I mean literally,
that regime was decapitated in the opening days of this war,
well in the opening minutes of the war. It was

(01:29:02):
decapitated and further degraded over the weeks that followed. And
so you know, I don't think you have a unified
government right now that's able to speak with one voice.
I think you have folks and factions within Iran that
are fighting for control. And so again, I think we

(01:29:23):
have to trust that the administration has good intelligence about
who they're dealing with. And I'm willing to give the
president some leeway. Would I prefer to see a different
government in there, of course I would, of course. But
you know, I think it's something that the US government

(01:29:44):
has never made regime change, despite that being my desire
and your desire, and I think President Trump's desire, We've
never made regime change one of the goals now that
is the goal of Israel yet regime change, and it's
the unspoken goal I think that we have, but we've
never made that a written goal. The President's been very clear,

(01:30:07):
you know, to grade their missile capabilities, get rid of
their nuclear capability, and you know, eliminate their ability to
export terror. Those are the things that the President has
said as victory for us. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:30:19):
So I have one more question, and this is about Okay,
so say you get re elected at One of my
frustrations is that we're still not back to regular order.
We're still not passing budgets, although there have been signs
of life in passing budgets. When does that happen? Because
you know, I am a big deficit hawk, and I
don't see any way to begin to manage the deficits

(01:30:44):
that we are running every single year until we know
exactly what's in those budgets.

Speaker 4 (01:30:49):
Yeah, well, it is very frustrating. This is a very
frustrating place. And as you mentioned about regular order, it's
been broken for so long it's kind of the expectation
that we continue to be broken. And look, we got
very very close to regular order this last time because
we did do all of the appropriations bills, and then

(01:31:09):
of course the Democrats decided they didn't want to fund
the Homeland Security piece, and so you know, we've had
to kick that along and find a different way to
do that. It's a difficult problem to have, especially when
you have a one or two seat majority, and I
must say I give Mike Johnson tremendous credit. I think
there's almost no one else in the House of Representatives

(01:31:31):
who could do what Mike Johnson has done. Our appropriations bills,
over and over, with the exception of Defense, have all
decreased spending from the previous year, and I think that's important.
We've got to hold the line on those appropriations bills.
But we still have to deal with some of these

(01:31:53):
entitlement issues and programs, and we did right in the
One Big Beautiful Bill deal with some of the fraud
that's been going on, people sitting and collecting medicaid and
not working when they're able bodied and could go out
and work, people who don't have children, and things like that.
And so there's lots of work that we can do there.
We need to continue to do it, and I think

(01:32:14):
we are going to do it. We're looking at doing
another Reconciliation bill right now that I think would deal
with a lot of the fraud that we're seeing in
you know, in a place like Minnesota and I Frink
in Colorado and other states. And so we have to
do that, but we do have to continue to push
for what you said is regular order and getting back

(01:32:35):
to examining these bills and doing the right things in
them and not just passing what passed the previous year.
The Democrats wanted to do that because they got more spending,
more big government by doing that, and we've got to
stop that.

Speaker 3 (01:32:49):
Well, all that spending is still in the bill, you know,
all the Biden nearest spending is still in the Continued Resolution.
I'm not mad at you. I'm just saying I'm just
mad Representative Jeff Crank. I appreci at your time today,
and I hope we'll talk again soon.

Speaker 4 (01:33:02):
Mandy. Thank you for your time, and I'm sure we will.
Thank you all right.

Speaker 3 (01:33:06):
I have a good one, sir. Always interesting to get his.
He's a thoughtful interview instead of just the here's what
I want to talk about. We're gonna beat those points
to death. Chad Bower with an ar not the weather,
just the letters, is in the studio right now. I was,
I got I'm gonna bake something for Ross. I was
gonna bake it yesterday, but I decided I was tired

(01:33:28):
and I sat down instead. But we've got to have
you in this week to do another.

Speaker 7 (01:33:33):
So now you know, okay, it's got to be. I'm
actually Thursday and Friday. My schedule might be a little different.

Speaker 3 (01:33:40):
So are you going on vacation or someone else going on?
Oh yeah, that sucks. It's like you're not going on vacation.
But we're up and all of your.

Speaker 7 (01:33:47):
Stuff, Mandy.

Speaker 3 (01:33:48):
The last time we did regime change in Iran, it
gave us what the regime is. Uh, what just happened?
Something just updated? Oh, it gave us what the regime
is there now, not exactly, but yeah, but my idea
of regime change and iron looks like this.

Speaker 7 (01:34:04):
Just get the Mullas out.

Speaker 3 (01:34:06):
Maybe you put the shaw Resie in there for a
year until you have free and fair elections and then
the Iranian people are on their own.

Speaker 7 (01:34:13):
That's what that's to me.

Speaker 3 (01:34:14):
What regime change not install a dictator who remains for
forty years. So there you go, and now it's time
for the most exciting segment on the radio of its
kind in loh whoa, yeah, that was nice. I like
that chat like, Okay, what is our dad joke of

(01:34:36):
the day?

Speaker 6 (01:34:36):
Please, if you ever get cold, just stand in the
corner for a room of a room for a while.

Speaker 5 (01:34:41):
They're normally around ninety degrees.

Speaker 3 (01:34:45):
Good times, good times, good times.

Speaker 7 (01:34:48):
What is our word of the day.

Speaker 3 (01:34:50):
It is a noun accouter. Tremont means something that's an
accessory to something else. It goes with it.

Speaker 7 (01:34:57):
Agreed and akut tremont?

Speaker 3 (01:34:58):
Correct? Okay?

Speaker 7 (01:35:00):
Smart?

Speaker 3 (01:35:02):
Yeah, hang on, I can't get my calendar.

Speaker 7 (01:35:04):
Let there we go.

Speaker 3 (01:35:05):
Greenland is the largest island in the world. What is
the second largest? I mean it could be one of
the Arctics there, Well, the Arctic is attached Antarctica.

Speaker 7 (01:35:20):
I don't think it is attached. What about Australia. I
was thinking Australia and we're all wrong.

Speaker 3 (01:35:28):
New Guinea. Oh, the Western Pacific Island is about fifteen
hundred miles long and four hundred miles wide. Isn't Australia
bigger than that?

Speaker 7 (01:35:36):
I thought? But obviously not.

Speaker 3 (01:35:39):
Whatever, I'm gonna look that up when I get home.
I'm gonna use the Internet. All right, Chad Bouer, what
is our Jeopardy capital?

Speaker 6 (01:35:46):
Well, first, very very very very very important for Chad
to win today?

Speaker 5 (01:35:50):
Why that way his record?

Speaker 3 (01:35:53):
Stop it stop?

Speaker 5 (01:35:55):
Yeah right? Yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:35:57):
It was yeah six seven day at the Rockies game
and there wasn't not enough six have references.

Speaker 5 (01:36:00):
I'm just saying, yeah, I would have preferred a lot more.

Speaker 7 (01:36:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:36:05):
The category is let's eat.

Speaker 7 (01:36:07):
Let's eat.

Speaker 5 (01:36:09):
One of these ocular steaks.

Speaker 7 (01:36:12):
Cut in Chad, what is a.

Speaker 3 (01:36:16):
Oh no, what is a rabbi?

Speaker 5 (01:36:20):
That is correct?

Speaker 3 (01:36:21):
I'm must talk myself out of it there for a second.

Speaker 7 (01:36:24):
This pre cooked offering for the soldier.

Speaker 1 (01:36:26):
M R.

Speaker 3 (01:36:28):
What is meals?

Speaker 7 (01:36:28):
Ready to eat?

Speaker 5 (01:36:29):
Yeah? Darn it, Chad.

Speaker 6 (01:36:31):
We have some of them in my house, grilled bread
drizzled with olive oil and topped with chopped tomatoes with
the name what's priscatta?

Speaker 4 (01:36:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (01:36:40):
I thought I did we have the word to eat
in it? No, No, let's considered.

Speaker 6 (01:36:46):
I do like most of those categories, but this is
the one today considered a delicacy. The soft green tamali
tomali tomli is this internal organ of a lobster, Mandy,
what's a liver? And for the sweep this putting made
from the starch of the.

Speaker 3 (01:37:05):
Many.

Speaker 9 (01:37:07):
What is.

Speaker 3 (01:37:09):
POI?

Speaker 7 (01:37:10):
No tang is tapioca?

Speaker 3 (01:37:12):
Oh tapioca?

Speaker 7 (01:37:13):
Why get a chance to guess?

Speaker 3 (01:37:15):
No, No, it's not how that works. I mean you
could have on Jeopardy.

Speaker 7 (01:37:18):
Yes, you could have. Did you know tapioca?

Speaker 1 (01:37:20):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:37:20):
Okay?

Speaker 7 (01:37:23):
Category?

Speaker 3 (01:37:23):
Well, I could come to you. No, it was a
great category. Obviously I flourished in that category.

Speaker 10 (01:37:29):
Five and eight.

Speaker 3 (01:37:30):
He'll never be six to seven. That's okay, though, That
is okay. Now, guys, this week, we've got a couple
of big days planned for you, like tomorrow, whoa, hey, wow,
my calendar just went nuts together. Tomorrow is not one
of them. Just to let you know, Tomorrow is not
a big day on the show. And then Wednesday is
a very big day on the show, and then Thursday

(01:37:51):
we have baseball, and then Friday minor lely big day
on the show. But today's blog was what I was
getting at with the thin subscribers amandyblog dot com.

Speaker 7 (01:38:04):
It has so much good stuff on it.

Speaker 3 (01:38:06):
That we did not get to So you may want
to check that out because we will be getting to
it probably tomorrow because tomorrow we have already established not
a big day on the show. So, Chad Bauer, what about.

Speaker 7 (01:38:16):
Tomorrow Firson now you know, yeah, we can do that.

Speaker 3 (01:38:19):
All right, that's one thing on tomorrow's show.

Speaker 7 (01:38:22):
Okay, check, that's how it goes.

Speaker 3 (01:38:23):
We're gonna make room for KOA Sports. They're coming up next.

Speaker 7 (01:38:27):
Keep it on, KOA

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