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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We've got a problem in Colorado, and that problem is
is that we do not have a very good charging network,
and that that range anxiety and the fear of not
being able to charge your car keeps a lot of
people get Honestly, that is my big like holding thing
that I'm stuck on right now before I buy an
electric car. Well, my next two guests are trying to
(00:22):
solve that problem and perhaps allowing you to make a
little scratch at the same time and joining me now,
Sam say Ed and John Patterson of ev charge Me,
the Colorado b startup that is trying to create a
peer to peer ev charging network powered entirely by private chargers.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
First of all, guys, welcome to the show.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Thanking to me.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
So who wants to tell the backstory of how this
even came about.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Let's let's hear the lure. Go ahead, John, I'll give
the backstory. Okay, okay, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
My buddy has an electric vehicle and a mile previous
house had solar and we also had a Tesla. So
he was coming over to watch a football game and
I piped up, I said, you know, I've got free
electricity produced from my rooftop solar. Do you want to
charge your car while you're here? So kind of the
next day, I was thinking about that, and I thought,
(01:17):
there needs to be a way to help other people
that either have a level two charger or even better,
have a level two charger and solar, to help them
monetize and make a little money on the side. So
it's like the Airbnb of electric vehicle charging.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
So how did you begin to set thisself up? What
are the standards that someone has to meet?
Speaker 2 (01:37):
And where?
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Let me back that up one second. Where are we
in the process? Are you guys live yet? Are you
letting people sign up? Or are we Where are we
in that process?
Speaker 2 (01:47):
We're so close.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
We've submitted to the app store. Our app currently lives
on the app Store, but it's in the beta version
and it's going to be publicly released any day now.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
So Sam, already, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Tell me what this is going to look like. Say
I have an electric car, I want to sign up
for the program. Walk me through what I can expect
as a homeowner who wants to be part of this network.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
Well, first of all, Mandy, I just loved how you
explain it to the audience speaker and you even said
that this is the issue for you.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Yeah, right, and it's the issue for a lot of Americans.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
And in twenty thirty, we're going to have about forty
million electric vehicles on the road and we do not
have the charge in infrastructure for it. So to qualify
for this, a homeowner when it needs to have a
two hundred and twenty VOULT sixty am charger in their home,
and they buy one of our smart boxes, and that
(02:44):
smart box will monetize that charger so they can make
passive income charging people's cars in their driveway and for
the user, for the EV driver, they can park in
any driveway. Some of these places will be very congested
places like Cherry Cree Tennison Street get palkin and they
get charging.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
So let me ask you a specific question. I don't
have a charger in my house. I assume they were
inside the garage.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
That's right. So our box is intended to be installed
on the exterior of the house near the garage. So
commonly people will just lay their existing level to charging
cable underneath their garage door, and our box just conceals
the end of the charging cable.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Just a tip if you will okay, And then.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Obviously you download our app and you enter your payment
credentials and you can see all the chargers that are
available and currently online, so the hosts can take them
online or offline whenever they want to charge their own
car and not allow appointments to are people looking for
a charge.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
To show up? So let me ask you this.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
If someone comes to my house, I get to set
the rate on what I'm charging. So if I live
in the middle of Las Vegas, New Mexico, on that
highway where there's nothing, and I say, you know, when
I want to charge, I don't know what is the pricing?
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Like, First of all, I.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Love answering that question because I like to respond by saying,
like how much would you put your house up for
on Airbnb or how much would you rent your car
for on curo. It's really worth just providing that platform
to allow.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
People to set their own rates.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
As we continue to gather data around the charging costs,
we want to use AI to help us figure out
what that sweet spot is for both sides.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Of this equation.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
But the person looking for a charge and the person
that is the host looking to make the money.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
So is this going to be like, oh, go ahead,
go ahead, Sam.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
I was just going to say. Another way of saying
is we're really letting the market decide themselves. Right, If
you're in a street where the average price is three
hundred and fifty dollars to stay in an ABMB and
someone list it for two seventy, they got a good deal.
If someone tries this in Mahim for seven hundred dollars,
they're probably not going to get any customers. So we're
going to allow the streets to set the prices.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Are you also going to allow like say I pull
up to someone's house and I'm going to charge my car,
and all of a sudden, someone walks out the front
door and says, would you like some cookies while you're
charging your car?
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Am I going.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
To go to your app and say, yes, I got cookies?
Speaker 2 (05:10):
And I got fueled up?
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Because here's my thinking, Like, I'm old right at this point,
I'm retired, I don't have anything better to do. I'm
hanging around my house anyway, may as well make a
little scratch on the side, and it's a little plate
of cookies gets you more business.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
You can have a boom hit thing going on.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
Well, if you ever retired, then we want you in
our team because I love where your heads at. So yeah,
we call that the lemonade.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Stand on steroids.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
Right, Like if someone was a professional car clean and
we're not talking about someone just washing your car that's
like waxing you doing a really good job, and they're retired,
then that would be an ancillary service that would be
added to when that person parks their car. So now
they can drive somewhere, they can have a two hour lunch,
they can meet a client, meet a friend, catch up,
they can have their they can have a guaranteed parking spot.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
They're charging their car and they're getting their.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
Car washed or they're getting cookies whatever. Yet but yes,
we're very smart as people, and people are always trying
to make an extra buck, and yeah, that's that's absolutely
a possibility.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
People will do that.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
What will be the front end cost for the homeowner
who wants to sign up?
Speaker 2 (06:13):
But what is that process going to be?
Speaker 1 (06:15):
What are I'm assuming there's some kind of subscription that
they have to pay to you.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
Right now, we're selling our box for two hundred and
ninety nine dollars is one off.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
That's it.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
We do a founder's rate which is fifty percent off,
so people will be able to buy the first box
is the first being how many number we decide for
half price, so around one hundred and fifty dollars one off.
And then we only take fifteen percent of every charge,
which is below Turo, Airbnb and Uber to our current
knowledge as we as we're having this interview, but we
(06:47):
only take fifteen percent, so the homeowners taken eighty five
percent of the of the hourly rate.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Now I am a person of a high level of
paranoia just in general.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
I'm just going to let you know.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
And the first thing I thought of is, am I
inviting someone to, under the guise of charging their car,
come rob my home.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
That's a good point.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
And you know we've had these questions when we raise
the initial investment. My answer in terms of on I'd love
to hear your stup, but my answer is generally, every
time I go to the airport, a strangers driving me
to the airport, and I'm borrowing a stranger's car for Turo,
which I've done, and I'm staying in a stranger's home
for Airbnb. If we had this idea fifteen years ago,
it could be a little weird, but peer to peer works,
(07:30):
and we're going to have basic information on the driver
that's driving to the home, same way that when you
jump in an Airbnb, they say hey, Mandy, you say
their name, and then they drive you to their destination.
So we're definitely going to have extra security protocols so
it's not just a quote unquote stranger charging their vehicle.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
I feel like this is a great secondary income stream
for people who are already operating short term rentals as well,
because then you're not necessarily having it in your own yard.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
That's a great point. And when you create a business,
right you're always trying to think of what is our
problem that our product is trying to solve. So to
your point, currently, right now, if you google unauthorized charging
at short term rentals, people are already showing up to
the Airbnb unplugging a washer driver if it's in the
garage down south, and then charging up their cars. Our
(08:21):
marketing guy explained to us that he's got a short
term rental and he would discover an extra three hundred
dollars electric bill at his vacation rental because people are
charging all of their cars. So that's our first go
to market strategy is to try to talk to people
that have short term rentals. And in that scenario where
somebody shows up with an electric vehicle, they can just
(08:42):
have on the welcome binder, download or take a picture
of this QR code, get into the app, and then
you're welcome to charge your car rather than driving off
to the Tesla supercharger, which is fifteen to twenty minutes
away from their family vacation at the Airbnb.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
John Patterson samsay ed, I'd like to be part of
the allocation for the I p O when you guys
go public, So just keep me in mind, keep your
girl in mind.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
I love this idea.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
I won't do it because I don't live in a
place where it would make sense. But this is a
great idea and and uh where can people get involved?
Find out more all that good stuff.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
Big and go on www dot ev charge me dot com.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
And I also put a link on the blog at
mandyblog dot com.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Guys, thank you so much for your time today, Thank you,
thank you. All right, we'll be right back
We've got a problem in Colorado, and that problem is
is that we do not have a very good charging network,
and that that range anxiety and the fear of not
being able to charge your car keeps a lot of
people get Honestly, that is my big like holding thing
that I'm stuck on right now before I buy an
electric car. Well, my next two guests are trying to
(00:22):
solve that problem and perhaps allowing you to make a
little scratch at the same time and joining me now,
Sam say Ed and John Patterson of ev charge Me,
the Colorado b startup that is trying to create a
peer to peer ev charging network powered entirely by private chargers.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
First of all, guys, welcome to the show.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Thanking to me.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
So who wants to tell the backstory of how this
even came about.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Let's let's hear the lure. Go ahead, John, I'll give
the backstory. Okay, okay, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
My buddy has an electric vehicle and a mile previous
house had solar and we also had a Tesla. So
he was coming over to watch a football game and
I piped up, I said, you know, I've got free
electricity produced from my rooftop solar. Do you want to
charge your car while you're here? So kind of the
next day, I was thinking about that, and I thought,
(01:17):
there needs to be a way to help other people
that either have a level two charger or even better,
have a level two charger and solar, to help them
monetize and make a little money on the side. So
it's like the Airbnb of electric vehicle charging.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
So how did you begin to set thisself up? What
are the standards that someone has to meet?
Speaker 2 (01:37):
And where?
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Let me back that up one second. Where are we
in the process? Are you guys live yet? Are you
letting people sign up? Or are we Where are we
in that process?
Speaker 2 (01:47):
We're so close.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
We've submitted to the app store. Our app currently lives
on the app Store, but it's in the beta version
and it's going to be publicly released any day now.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
So Sam, already, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Tell me what this is going to look like. Say
I have an electric car, I want to sign up
for the program. Walk me through what I can expect
as a homeowner who wants to be part of this network.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
Well, first of all, Mandy, I just loved how you
explain it to the audience speaker and you even said
that this is the issue for you.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Yeah, right, and it's the issue for a lot of Americans.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
And in twenty thirty, we're going to have about forty
million electric vehicles on the road and we do not
have the charge in infrastructure for it. So to qualify
for this, a homeowner when it needs to have a
two hundred and twenty VOULT sixty am charger in their home,
and they buy one of our smart boxes, and that
(02:44):
smart box will monetize that charger so they can make
passive income charging people's cars in their driveway and for
the user, for the EV driver, they can park in
any driveway. Some of these places will be very congested
places like Cherry Cree Tennison Street get palkin and they
get charging.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
So let me ask you a specific question. I don't
have a charger in my house. I assume they were
inside the garage.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
That's right. So our box is intended to be installed
on the exterior of the house near the garage. So
commonly people will just lay their existing level to charging
cable underneath their garage door, and our box just conceals
the end of the charging cable.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Just a tip if you will okay, And then.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Obviously you download our app and you enter your payment
credentials and you can see all the chargers that are
available and currently online, so the hosts can take them
online or offline whenever they want to charge their own
car and not allow appointments to are people looking for
a charge.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
To show up? So let me ask you this.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
If someone comes to my house, I get to set
the rate on what I'm charging. So if I live
in the middle of Las Vegas, New Mexico, on that
highway where there's nothing, and I say, you know, when
I want to charge, I don't know what is the pricing?
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Like, First of all, I.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Love answering that question because I like to respond by saying,
like how much would you put your house up for
on Airbnb or how much would you rent your car
for on curo. It's really worth just providing that platform
to allow.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
People to set their own rates.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
As we continue to gather data around the charging costs,
we want to use AI to help us figure out
what that sweet spot is for both sides.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Of this equation.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
But the person looking for a charge and the person
that is the host looking to make the money.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
So is this going to be like, oh, go ahead,
go ahead, Sam.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
I was just going to say. Another way of saying
is we're really letting the market decide themselves. Right, If
you're in a street where the average price is three
hundred and fifty dollars to stay in an ABMB and
someone list it for two seventy, they got a good deal.
If someone tries this in Mahim for seven hundred dollars,
they're probably not going to get any customers. So we're
going to allow the streets to set the prices.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Are you also going to allow like say I pull
up to someone's house and I'm going to charge my car,
and all of a sudden, someone walks out the front
door and says, would you like some cookies while you're
charging your car?
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Am I going.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
To go to your app and say, yes, I got cookies?
Speaker 2 (05:10):
And I got fueled up?
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Because here's my thinking, Like, I'm old right at this point,
I'm retired, I don't have anything better to do. I'm
hanging around my house anyway, may as well make a
little scratch on the side, and it's a little plate
of cookies gets you more business.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
You can have a boom hit thing going on.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
Well, if you ever retired, then we want you in
our team because I love where your heads at. So yeah,
we call that the lemonade.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Stand on steroids.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
Right, Like if someone was a professional car clean and
we're not talking about someone just washing your car that's
like waxing you doing a really good job, and they're retired,
then that would be an ancillary service that would be
added to when that person parks their car. So now
they can drive somewhere, they can have a two hour lunch,
they can meet a client, meet a friend, catch up,
they can have their they can have a guaranteed parking spot.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
They're charging their car and they're getting their.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
Car washed or they're getting cookies whatever. Yet but yes,
we're very smart as people, and people are always trying
to make an extra buck, and yeah, that's that's absolutely
a possibility.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
People will do that.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
What will be the front end cost for the homeowner
who wants to sign up?
Speaker 2 (06:13):
But what is that process going to be?
Speaker 1 (06:15):
What are I'm assuming there's some kind of subscription that
they have to pay to you.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
Right now, we're selling our box for two hundred and
ninety nine dollars is one off.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
That's it.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
We do a founder's rate which is fifty percent off,
so people will be able to buy the first box
is the first being how many number we decide for
half price, so around one hundred and fifty dollars one off.
And then we only take fifteen percent of every charge,
which is below Turo, Airbnb and Uber to our current
knowledge as we as we're having this interview, but we
(06:47):
only take fifteen percent, so the homeowners taken eighty five
percent of the of the hourly rate.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Now I am a person of a high level of
paranoia just in general.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
I'm just going to let you know.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
And the first thing I thought of is, am I
inviting someone to, under the guise of charging their car,
come rob my home.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
That's a good point.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
And you know we've had these questions when we raise
the initial investment. My answer in terms of on I'd love
to hear your stup, but my answer is generally, every
time I go to the airport, a strangers driving me
to the airport, and I'm borrowing a stranger's car for Turo,
which I've done, and I'm staying in a stranger's home
for Airbnb. If we had this idea fifteen years ago,
it could be a little weird, but peer to peer works,
(07:30):
and we're going to have basic information on the driver
that's driving to the home, same way that when you
jump in an Airbnb, they say hey, Mandy, you say
their name, and then they drive you to their destination.
So we're definitely going to have extra security protocols so
it's not just a quote unquote stranger charging their vehicle.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
I feel like this is a great secondary income stream
for people who are already operating short term rentals as well,
because then you're not necessarily having it in your own yard.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
That's a great point. And when you create a business,
right you're always trying to think of what is our
problem that our product is trying to solve. So to
your point, currently, right now, if you google unauthorized charging
at short term rentals, people are already showing up to
the Airbnb unplugging a washer driver if it's in the
garage down south, and then charging up their cars. Our
(08:21):
marketing guy explained to us that he's got a short
term rental and he would discover an extra three hundred
dollars electric bill at his vacation rental because people are
charging all of their cars. So that's our first go
to market strategy is to try to talk to people
that have short term rentals. And in that scenario where
somebody shows up with an electric vehicle, they can just
(08:42):
have on the welcome binder, download or take a picture
of this QR code, get into the app, and then
you're welcome to charge your car rather than driving off
to the Tesla supercharger, which is fifteen to twenty minutes
away from their family vacation at the Airbnb.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
John Patterson samsay ed, I'd like to be part of
the allocation for the I p O when you guys
go public, So just keep me in mind, keep your
girl in mind.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
I love this idea.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
I won't do it because I don't live in a
place where it would make sense. But this is a
great idea and and uh where can people get involved?
Find out more all that good stuff.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
Big and go on www dot ev charge me dot com.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
And I also put a link on the blog at
mandyblog dot com.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Guys, thank you so much for your time today, Thank you,
thank you. All right, we'll be right back
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