07-28-26 FULL SHOW - The Vibrancy In Denver Is Magic - The Mandy Connell Podcast

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Welcome, Welcome, Welcome to a Tuesday edition of the show.
I'm your host, Mandy Connell. That guy excuse me or now,
as Grant's grandfather says, I don't think I should get
that when I have a frog in my throat, it
was it was causing a problem. Hey, Rod, he's right
over there playing sounds m E ponomy. There you go,

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yep mm hm. Now we've got a big show planned today.
Of course, we've got an exciting visit by Chad Bower
later with and now you know so in the meantime,
let's jump on the blog. Shall we find the blog
at mandyblog dot com. That's Mandy blog dot com. When
you get there, the big first story right on.

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The headlines page.

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It just the headline says seven twenty eight twenty six
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and here are the headlines you will find within.

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ships and equipments of sea that's going to pass.

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Flat Today on the blog, Chad bower in at you
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city just decides to not fight crime, and then there
are the overdoses. Scrolling fees are the new taxes, and
they are high in Colorado. No socialism is not on
the rise. Have you noticed how fleeing the US goes

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watch CNN erupt rather than talk about Fauci's diaries Scrolling
the sad tale of Cracker Barrel.

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Is your lawn.

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a concert tonight? Ryan Reynolds goes incognito at comic Con.
Marrero sucks so bad and I don't know why he's
not fired. This is what AI should be used for.
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are on sale. Democrats are in league with foreign billionaires

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on data centers. Congrats Matthew Smith. Did the CE people
really end the bronze age? The IMF says, Mila is
doing a good job. Republicans are a clown car. Vic
is the driver. The call of this squirrel invasion is magic,
did Griswolds sleep on campaign finance complaints? Cats love bags?

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John Cena is a wonderful human being. Koa is all
over Broncos training camp. Those are the headlines on the
blog at Mandy blog dot com.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
Tick tech to a winner.

Speaker 4 (02:50):
All right, as you can see, we have oodles and
oodles of stuff to do, but let's start at the bottom. Anthony,
tell me about our training camp coverage and when does
training camp start? For those who are Bronco fans but
not like rabid know all the dates.

Speaker 6 (03:05):
Bronco fans, Yes, indeed, it's that time of year, so
everyone is starting to report veterans and rookies over the
next couple days, which is called an acclamation period to
get all ready to rock and roll for the official
started training camp, which for all of us fans, media
all alike, all coming out together this Friday, July thirty first,
the first day of the next couple of weeks. So

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we're going to be out there at the crack pre crack,
pre crack pre crack a dogree crack yeah the crack
yeah five A m are going to be out there
with all kinds of coverage. You're truly going to be
given updates multiple times an hour throughout the throughout the
first couple hours, all the way through up until like noon,
and then all of.

Speaker 5 (03:48):
Our social coverage as well.

Speaker 6 (03:49):
So every single day the Broncos are on that field,
you're truly along our alongside, our whole team are going
to be bringing you all the the awesome coverage. And
first Broncos preseason game They've got three, They're all on
Fridays this year, which is it's fun a little interesting.
The first preseason game, I believe comes up. I'm checking now,

(04:11):
Broncos first game on Friday, August fourteenth.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
Who are they playing Jacksonville?

Speaker 5 (04:17):
At?

Speaker 2 (04:17):
Is that right?

Speaker 5 (04:18):
Atlanta?

Speaker 3 (04:19):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (04:19):
At Atlanta? Where did I see Jacksonville?

Speaker 4 (04:21):
But I almost looking at the half prized tickets today.
Half Pride tickets went on sale at ten am this morning.
I'll look at the break, but I'm guessing they're all
gone for Broncos games. But I just think that's kind
of cool that they do that in the first place. Hey,
Rod did misspeak when he said our whole team because
I will not be a training camp, and everybody asked,
aren't you mad?

Speaker 5 (04:41):
You know?

Speaker 4 (04:41):
And I was like, nah, because there's a thing at
training camp. There's a quiet time between noon and two
thirty or something, and that's exactly when my show happens.
So I couldn't do it anyway. But no, I won't go.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
It's fine. I'm just gonna take a vacasions. Get about
you guys. You guys, Just forget about you guys.

Speaker 4 (05:00):
I'll suck anyway. Yeah, I'm gonna be on vacation next week.
For the listener who asked yesterday, I kept forget forgetting
to respond. They texted in like three times on the
Common Spirit Health text line and I never got to
their question.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
I am not going to Europe yet.

Speaker 4 (05:16):
That is in October, and I'm going to Alaska next
week and I cannot wait.

Speaker 2 (05:21):
I'm going with my kids and my grave kids, and
I can't wait. It's gonna be amazing.

Speaker 4 (05:26):
Calling Victor Mark's minister Marks in the news is a
bit disingenuous. I don't refer to Kawa with tags. I mean,
he calls himself the head of a ministry, so minister
would maybe be appropriate. And I know Pastor and reverend
have some there's like a there's requirements, I think, so

(05:47):
we did stop calling himself past her about the same
time that he took the claim of saving forty five
thousand women and children off his website about that same time,
right there, Mandy, prayers for the Broncos getting it together?
Quite an undertake?

Speaker 2 (06:00):
No, wait just a second, did you sleep through last season? Like,
what kind of comment is that?

Speaker 5 (06:06):
I'm not going to.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
Turn this into did you hear this?

Speaker 4 (06:08):
Wait a minute, Prayers for the Broncos getting it together?

Speaker 5 (06:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (06:11):
Quite and wait, quite an undertaking?

Speaker 2 (06:14):
That's crazy?

Speaker 5 (06:15):
Double check?

Speaker 2 (06:17):
Ah.

Speaker 5 (06:17):
Yes, they were in the final four last year. Yeah,
one went away from the Super Bowl yep, and at.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
Their quarterback not gone down.

Speaker 4 (06:25):
You could argue that they would have made it to
the super Bowl where they probably would have lost.

Speaker 5 (06:29):
And you can hear it here.

Speaker 6 (06:31):
First, I am picking them to go Oh yes, you're
going now win.

Speaker 5 (06:39):
Not quite.

Speaker 6 (06:39):
I am picking them to go this year to the
super Bowl. They are my they are my pick to
go to the super Bowl.

Speaker 4 (06:44):
Are you going to lay a little future's money down
on there?

Speaker 5 (06:47):
Ew?

Speaker 4 (06:48):
What's what's the odds on that? I don't know, find
out what future is now?

Speaker 5 (06:53):
So the super Bowl or win the super Bowl.

Speaker 4 (06:54):
I'm gonna go win Super Bowl because the odds are
going to be longer on that. So the see fifty bucks,
ay Rod, Yeah, fifty bucks.

Speaker 5 (07:05):
I bet one.

Speaker 6 (07:05):
I'm in a sports book for fun, and I bet
on the day of the Super Bowl for fun, usually
on prop bets. Other than that, no betting on sports
for me.

Speaker 2 (07:15):
I don't.

Speaker 5 (07:15):
I don't bet at all, and fancy football, but that
doesn't go.

Speaker 2 (07:19):
Gambling is not my thing anyway.

Speaker 4 (07:21):
Okay, guys, I have some really big stories, but I
wanted to kind of get that training campus stuff in
because we are going to have a covered walled wall
in the meantime, though, we've got to talk about some stuff.
So my big frustration with Denver and my no nope,
let me walk that statement back. My big frustration with

(07:41):
Denver's recovery from the COVID shutdowns and everything else is
that leadership in this town is completely ignoring the elephant
in the room. And that elephant has like a ski
mask on and his arm robbing people. Okay, now I
realized that crime has dropped. I get it, it really has. Statistically,

(08:03):
things look much better. All those statistics can be managed.
Just want to throw that out there. Crimes can be
put into a lower category just so the statistics could
I've already lived in one of those cities before. But
the city council and the City of Denver, it's like,
just when I think they're actually concerned about their recovery

(08:23):
or lack of recovery and the amount of office making
season Denver, which is only going up, entire office buildings
being foreclosed on. I mean, they look at this and
they're coming up with all the wrong solutions. How do
I know. Let me just bring you this story. Man
caught on camera throwing rock through window of Denver business. Now,

(08:49):
I am not a police officer. Although I do watch
an inordinate amount of police shows.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
I realize they're not exactly accurate.

Speaker 4 (08:56):
But I feel like if I were a police officer
and there was a video like this video that clearly
shows the face of the man who hurled a rock
for no reason through the front door of a business,
I would think, I mean, call me crazy this. Maybe
I'm just crazy, I don't know, but you think that
that would be a pre good lead on catching the

(09:17):
person who did that. A video of the crime where
the perpetrator's face is completely seeable.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
Oh yeah, you'd think that that would you know?

Speaker 4 (09:29):
You'd be a bless all that crime put that in
the win column. And yet from our friends at Fox
thirty one KDVR, Minyo says she called Denver police immediately
to file a report, and says they came out to
collect evidence, but told her a day later the case
had been closed already with no charges issued. DPD confirmed

(09:50):
a Fox that there was no active investigation into the incident,
but says, and this is the part where I burst
out laughing. DPD confirmed Fox thirty one that there was
no active investigation into the incident, but says, anyone can
report information about the suspect to Metro Denver crime stoppers.

(10:10):
Why would you even make the call? Why would you
even This is why people start to take things into
their own hands. This is why the gilantism starts to
seem like a good idea. I got an email from
someone today about the just absolutely tragic story of Lamumba
Sayer's senior and his son, Lamumba Sayers Junior, who was

(10:35):
murdered and because the case was unsolved, and I don't
know what exactly this situation was. For some reason, I
recall in the early part of the story being covered
that there was some question that no one would no
one would work with police to help solve that crime

(10:56):
and put hold the murder accountable. And Lamumbo Sayer Senior
ends up kill telling the guy that he believed with
some certainty was the guy who killed his son and
it was like a gangbanger situation, not his son, but
the other guy. And that's the kind of vigilantism that
takes hold when you've got a video of the guy
throwing the rock, whose face is clearly visible, and DPD

(11:19):
spends fifteen minutes investigating why, of course crime stats have
gone down, people have stopped when you know nothing is
going to happen.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
What is the point?

Speaker 4 (11:30):
Why would you waste your time reporting something to the
police when you know they are going to do absolutely
nothing about it. I mean, come on, manby without facial recognition,
just having a face is not a good lead for
crime solving. Guess what, guys, this guy is clearly an
urban outdoorsman. How about spend some time on the street,

(11:53):
show that picture around, find the guy, arrest him, hold
him accountable. Give this business own some confidence that she's
not gonna have to deal with this over and over
and over again.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
From the same guy.

Speaker 4 (12:07):
You want to know why we have so many vacancies
in downtown Denver because when something does happen to your business,
no one freaking cares. No one cares. And I would
love to know from some of the officers that are
working from DPD. Are you guys just told to stand down?
Are you so overwhelmed with the crime we're not supposed
to be having that you don't have time to investigate

(12:29):
something this obvious? How is that happening? Who's making that decision?
I'd really like to know. It's absolutely insane. Mandy in
Westminster had piece of equipment vandalized on camera. No charges
will be filed. Cost me five thousand for repairs. Exactly

(12:50):
why would you call? Why would you call? Come on, Mandy?
I live in Douglas County and called Douglas County Sheriff
on aug I don't know what that word is. On
a bunch of kids that were throwing rocks and cars
one time and I told them we were filming it.
They yelled at me, question, why are you filming them?

(13:12):
I just I don't even know what I don't even
know what to.

Speaker 5 (13:14):
Do with that.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
I don't know what to do with that.

Speaker 4 (13:17):
Many top of the news just said an Aurora that
stats for crime are down, but nine to one one
calls and arrests are up. Does this mean there is
more crime but less prosecution. I feel like I'm missing
something here. There's a couple of different reasons for that.
If they're actually arresting people, then maybe the actual criminals

(13:39):
are being put in jail. Perhaps they're getting more nine
to one one calls for things that don't require a
law enforcement solution, like a mental health situation, a situation
where people are arguing or creating a problem but not
actually you know, you can give them a warning and
send them all their way kind of stuff. I will

(14:00):
take a drop in crime as long as it's real.
But again, you can make statistics say whatever you want. Mandy,
vibrant Denver equals steel doors and bulletproof glass windows. I
hate to say it, but man, you're not wrong.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
Hi, Mandy.

Speaker 4 (14:17):
Will you listen to KOA on iHeart app at least
once fall in Alaska? Just to check in and be
able to say you listen to KOA in Alaska? Probably not,
And not that I don't love my radio station, and
not that I won't miss the people who work here
while I'm gone, But when I'm on vacation.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
I am I am unplugged. It's glorious.

Speaker 4 (14:38):
And here's what I've discovered. I'm gonna be on vacation.
We're flying out Friday, going to Vancouver, Canada. I won't
be back until August eighth. And you know what I've
learned that I won't look at the news at all
during that time, and when I come back, it'll be
the exact same crap, different day. I didn't miss anything.
It's amazing and it's refreshing. Mandy Vigilantism needs to to

(15:00):
take care of that blank blank. You're just gonna send
that every day now, Yeah, just gonna send the same
thing every day.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (15:12):
Anyway, that's not all though. That's not the end of
this story. Because Denver is so blind to what actually
is creating problems in downtown Denver that they are doing
things that are completely counterintuitive, completely counterintuitive. The Denver City

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Council is actually considering codifying into law a policy of
the Denver Police Department about low level traffic stops. Now,
low level traffic stops include things like pulling someone over
for a tailwight that's out or one of those things,
and what they say is those are not very effective

(15:53):
at stopping actual crime, and they disproportionately fall upon and
people of color, so black and brown people. I think
you can work to address the second issue without completely
undoing the first issue, because, and I know this is
anecdotal evidence, I have more than one friend over my

(16:16):
lifetime that has gotten a DUI. Okay, people do dumb things,
they make mistakes. Luckily, nobody ever hurt anyone, and everybody
got pulled over for some asinine, low level reason. But
you know what they did by pulling someone over because
they didn't use their turn signal or they drifted to
a stop sign. If that person is drunk behind the wheel,

(16:39):
that police officer has now got cause to pull them
over and see if someone is drunk behind the wheel.
And in the case of multiple of my friends, the
answer was yes, and they got arrested, but they didn't
have a chance to hurt themselves or someone else. So
these low level police stops, again, if they are disproportionately
following on people of color, I'd like to know more

(17:00):
about that statistic. I'd like to know more about the
reasoning for those stops. I'd like to know. Just curious,
but to take that off the table is just taking
another tool of the police taking it away. They're actually
the Denver City Council is considering permanently limiting certain types
of those low level traffic stops. Members of the Budget

(17:22):
and Policy Committee on Monday were brief down a proposal
by District six council member Paul Cashman that would codify
in existing Denver Police Department police policy into city ordinance.

Speaker 2 (17:33):
Now, the committee didn't.

Speaker 4 (17:34):
Take action on this, but this is not the business
of the city council. If it's a policy already, the
situation has been addressed the way that the Denver Police
have decided they want to address it. Whether I agree
with it or not, they're the ones that have to
execute and follow the policy.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
There's a reason for it.

Speaker 4 (17:53):
If you want to have a conversation about that, that's great.
But why would city council micro manage the Denver Police
when this city council, there are many members on this
city council, although there are fresh faces on this city council,
they've allowed Denver to become dangerous and violent with incredibly

(18:13):
high levels of property crime.

Speaker 2 (18:16):
It's been on their watch.

Speaker 4 (18:18):
They haven't been to the capital raising Caine. Whenever they
tried to lower the limits for things like car theft,
they weren't there banging down the governor's door. So there's
responsible for what happens in Denver?

Speaker 2 (18:29):
Is anybody else?

Speaker 4 (18:30):
And instead of going wow, you know what, people have
the perception because if you follow do better Denver, and
I still do. On social media, she is still posting
stuff all the time of the hellish conditions that we
allow people to live in on the streets in Denver.

(18:52):
It's absolutely horrific. Mandy caught individuals in the act of
attempting to steal my car. Perpetrators fled an iPhone behind
no arrest. Well, you know what, when Phil Wiser's governor,
he's going to make sure that after the third or
fourth car theft, somebody's gonna go to jail. Mandy cops
know the Soros DA will just kick it, so why

(19:13):
waste their time? I think there's probably a lot of
truth in that, a lot of truth, and I don't
in that respect. I can only imagine how frustrating it
is to go out and try and be a good
police officer and do your job and put yourself into
harm's way to take the scumbags off the street only
to watch the District Attorney's office just let them go.

(19:35):
But here's the thing. Where's the Denver police unions on this?
Why aren't they out in front of this. Why aren't
they out talking about these idiotic policies that prevent police
from doing their jobs. Where are the police officers standing
up and saying.

Speaker 2 (19:48):
Hey, this isn't working. How about that?

Speaker 4 (19:52):
But then again, now the Colorado has done away with
qualified immunity for police officers, why would anyone want to
be an active officer in this date? Seriously, we're going
to take a quick time out and then when we
get back I have one more set of stats for
you on Denver and it's also not good keep it
on KOA. So I just used the Google real quick,

(20:13):
I tell, okay, technically, I use chat and I asked
chat GBT what percentage of low level traffic stops result
in criminal charges? And this is one of those areas
where we don't have good data because of the way
things are reported, Like you could arrest someone on an
outstanding warrant, which is great, but I'm looking for like

(20:34):
how many guns did we find? How much you know,
how many narcotics did we find? And I grabbed this
statistic from Chicago. Chicago said they have a four point
five percent of their low level traffic stops resulted in
any arrest whatsoever. And I was like, okay, well what
is that number. How many arrests are we talking about?

(20:56):
That number breaks out to thirteen one hundred and ninety two. Now,
some of those are going to be outstanding warrants, but
they could be outstanding warrants for murder.

Speaker 2 (21:04):
I don't know. They also found guns.

Speaker 4 (21:07):
They were covered twenty two hundred and one guns, they
were covered narcotics, and I have a texture on the
common spirit health text line. Who made this great point, Mandy? Remember,
as a retired cop, want to point out that Ted
Bundy and Timothy McVeigh were apprehended by low level traffic stops?

Speaker 2 (21:25):
Yeah, yeah, exactly, Mandy.

Speaker 4 (21:31):
I stopped flashing my lights to let people know there's
a cop for that reason. What if they're drunk or
have an outstanding warrant? And I just warned them. Fine point, Mandy.
You have to watch Worst Neighbor Ever, the episode fear
Thy Neighbor on Netflix. What happens when police were ignore
broken windows to the extreme must watch. I will I'm
about to fly, so I will download that on my tablet. Mandy,

(21:54):
So what the residents voted for these clowns, They get
what they deserve.

Speaker 2 (21:58):
See.

Speaker 4 (21:58):
I understand that emotion, I really do. But the problem
is is that as Denver falls apart, it then seeps
into all of the suburbs where we live, and I
don't want that. There's far more crime in Douglas County.
It feels like than there used to be now in
Douglas County.

Speaker 2 (22:16):
Where I live.

Speaker 4 (22:16):
If you are at the Walmart and there's people shoplifting
and they call the cops, the cops show up. I
know this because like four or five different occasions in
the last year and a half two years, I've pulled
up to Walmart to see a group of police officers
putting bracelets on some shoplifter who had a cart full
of like laundry detergent or something. So that they show up.

(22:39):
But it still feels like more crime in this area.
And then stories like this, Mandy, my credit card was
compromised for thirty two hundred bucks one perpetrator all vehicle
equipment purchases, tires, et cetera.

Speaker 2 (22:52):
Before I called the cops.

Speaker 4 (22:54):
I spent three days doing my own research with Visa
and the vendors. When I spoke with the cop, gave
him a spreadsheet of the four uses of the card
with the criminal's name, address, phone number, email, and vehicle.
Then I requested a police report six and twelve months later,
mostly information free. Then eighteen months later, police report said

(23:16):
not able to proceed. So I mean, what, how?

Speaker 2 (23:22):
How? How is that? I mean, you guys, we've all
watched law and order for years. If you're a police
officer out there, let us help you.

Speaker 4 (23:29):
Let us do what this nice man did, create a spreadsheet,
do all the legwig for you.

Speaker 2 (23:34):
Then you just got it. You know, here you go.
Here's why?

Speaker 4 (23:38):
Make me understand that I have the utmost respect for
law enforcement.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
I always have.

Speaker 4 (23:43):
I grew up in a family where we didn't have
any law enforcement officers, but my dad knew all the
police and sheriffs and everything else.

Speaker 2 (23:50):
But this kind of stuff is making me insane, absolutely nuts.

Speaker 4 (23:57):
Is it just a matter of being so incredibly understand
that you can't do the job.

Speaker 2 (24:03):
I really want to know, because this is when the
wheels really start to fly off.

Speaker 4 (24:09):
This is when we end up like New York City
where the Guardian Angels became a thing because the cops
weren't doing their jobs on the subway and it finally
took Rudy Giuliani to get some teeth into the New
York Police Department again before people felt safe. And now
again the subways where you go to get pushed onto
the train tracks in New York, it's insane, Mandy, excellent
comments observations on the Denver City Council. I'm gonna tell

(24:31):
my city council woman to listen to it via podcast.
Thank you for your clear logic and passion. I appreciate it.
Ron I guarantee you she will not do that.

Speaker 2 (24:40):
Whoever it is. Maybe there's a couple.

Speaker 4 (24:42):
There's a handful of Denversity Council and by handfly, I
mean like four that are not horrible.

Speaker 2 (24:48):
The rest of them are, Mandy.

Speaker 4 (24:51):
If it hasn't been mentioned, Denversity Council voted to lower
penalties on many crimes, i e. Relieving oneself on the
sidewalk lowered from a maximum of three hundred and sixty
five days to ten days. Of course, most will never
be prosecuted, so we'll be just like San Francisco. Speaking
of that, let me get these stats in for the
end of the segment and then we will stop our
let's beat up on Denver because they make it so

(25:11):
easy part of the show.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
This according to a woman that I follow gen Xten
on X she's.

Speaker 4 (25:19):
Pulled the numbers for Denver fatal overdoses January through July,
and the compared to her comparison or compared to her
last update in May, today's counts of fatal overdoses in
Denver through April are thirty percent higher, meaning after the

(25:43):
five twenty six the me's office classified thirty eight additional
deaths from January to April as odes as overdoses. If
that ratio holds, we'll add fifty two to the count
for May, June, and July, bringing the death toll for
the first six months of the year to about three
hundred and ninety sixty nine in one month in preliminary

(26:07):
data is unprecedented. The previous highest final count was sixty
three that was reached in both March and May. Of
twenty twenty five, people are just dying on the streets
of Denver or in the hotel rooms that Denver pays for.
So we're not going You know what's weird. Do you
remember how for many many years during the first Obama

(26:29):
administration especially, and then when Joe Biden started putting Kamalina
Harris in charge of everything, and she literally did nothing
on any of it, but she ran around and what
was the phrase she used instead of results, she talked about,
We've got to.

Speaker 2 (26:44):
Get to the root cause. We have to go to
the root cause of the issue. It's all about the
root cause.

Speaker 4 (26:51):
Well, people are dying of drug overdoses at maybe a
record pace, So shouldn't we look at the root cause
of those over those deaths, which is they were addicted
to drugs and it was only a matter of time.
I mean, drug addiction truly is death on the installment plan.
As Bob Kotey of step Denver used to say all

(27:12):
the time, all the time. Mandy Timothy McVeigh was captured
due to a low level traffic stop for improperly displayed registration.
But whatever Denver, exactly, Mandy like gold bracelets kind of
strange to reward a shoplifter. No, the kind that are
connected with another piece of metal that you can't get off.

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Those are the ones I'm talking about when is Denver
just going to get it get together?

Speaker 2 (27:41):
When are they getting it? When is that going to
happen when Mandy?

Speaker 4 (27:48):
Of course, police officers show up in Douglas County. They
have nothing better to do than protecting the white privileged neighborhoods.
You mean the neighborhoods where people all have jobs and
work really hard hard and make good choices to spend
their money wisely. If that's white privilege, then I'm fine
with it.

Speaker 3 (28:07):
Lol.

Speaker 4 (28:08):
You don't understand the Democratic Party is trying to destroy
our judicial system. Their commis see this is exactly yesterday
I had a column on the blog about the Democratic
Socialists of America. I have a great column today from
Scott Rasmussen a recent poll about socialism that I'm gonna
get into in the next segment. But the Democratic Socialists
of America want to abolish prisons. They want to abolish prisons.

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They want to completely defund the police with absolutely no
no explanation on what they're going to do when someone,
a brute force person overpowers and harms another person, because
that's what they want. Here's what they're going to do.

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Here's my theory, and I think it's a pretty darn
good one, so you may want to make a note
of this. My theory is they want crime to skyrocket
so then they can get people to go for gun
control based on making us all safer.

Speaker 2 (29:08):
And then once they have all of.

Speaker 4 (29:09):
Our guns, they're off to the races and they become totalitarian.

Speaker 2 (29:13):
It's not me making it up.

Speaker 4 (29:14):
It's what's happened over and over and over and over again.
But I'm totally sure it'll be different this time. Keep
it on, Kowa. This popped up on social media on
the break so real quick. According to vivint, utilizing FBI
property crimes to tistics during peak travel seasons, the six
riskiest US vacation and travel destinations for property crime, burglary.

Speaker 2 (29:38):
And vehicle fat are in this order.

Speaker 4 (29:41):
Number one Honolulu, Hawaii, Number two, Seattle, Washington, Number three, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, Number.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
Four, Denver, Colorado. We're number four. We're number four. We're
number four. Anyway, that's not good, you guys, That is
not good.

Speaker 4 (30:01):
Okay, let me talk to you about some good news
about socialism.

Speaker 2 (30:05):
Now. I'm not gonna say anything nice about socialism.

Speaker 4 (30:08):
It's just not although, can you guys please do me
a favor whenever, if it ever happens, if you're ever
talking to someone who is pro socialism and they look
at you and go.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
We already have socialism. How about our roads? How about
our schools?

Speaker 4 (30:23):
How about the fire department, how about the police department.
I just want you to stop them right there and say,
which one of those do you think is working the best?

Speaker 2 (30:32):
Right now? Which one?

Speaker 4 (30:34):
Especially in Colorado? Like, oh, our schools, I don't think so.

Speaker 2 (30:39):
I don't think so.

Speaker 4 (30:40):
Have you been down I seventy East out in the
plains lately, holy crap, or any of the other complete
garbage roads in this state. And they're gonna use that
to explain why we need more of it. Please throw
that back in their faces asap.

Speaker 2 (30:56):
Now.

Speaker 4 (30:56):
The good news is a recent This is from a
column by Scott Rasmussen of Rassmussen Polling. The most recent
Nepolitan News survey found that thirty one percent of voters
nationwide have a favorable opinion of the term socialism. We've
gotten pretty much the same result in survey after survey
after the past decade. Every time we're asked, the percentage

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with a favorable opinion of socialism has remained between thirty
and thirty five percent, and then he goes on to
talk about why does it feel like it's everywhere now,
like it's an unstoppable wave. Well, the root cause of
this problem is that we live in a ten to
ten eighty nation. Ten percent on the country is on
the political left, is engaged in a bitter war with

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ten percent on the political right. Both sides think that
only their agenda can save their nation from the evil
of the other ten percent, And sitting around in the middle,
just hanging out the eighty percent. What are the eighty
percent doing, dude, They're just keeping their heads down, try
not to make eye contact. They're busy living their lives,
raising families, do jobs, being part of the communities, and

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they're just not that dialed in.

Speaker 2 (32:06):
And the problem is.

Speaker 4 (32:07):
Is that the ten percenters on both sides of the
political aisle make two huge mistakes.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
First, they assume.

Speaker 4 (32:14):
That election results reflect public opinion in a healthy political system.
That might be true, but we don't necessarily have a
healthy political system.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
Listen to these stats.

Speaker 4 (32:27):
In reality, only about one out of ten New York
City residents voted for Ziron Mamdani. Think about that one
in ten, An even smaller share of the electorate voted
for the Democratic socialist candidates who won recent Democratic primaries
for the city council.

Speaker 2 (32:45):
So don't look at a.

Speaker 4 (32:46):
Low turnout election from a very blue city and think
that that is in any way, shape or form able
to be extrapolated across the country.

Speaker 2 (32:52):
Because it just isn't.

Speaker 4 (32:56):
To paraphrase a quote attributed to George Bernard Shaw, the
political class in America are two nations separated by common language.
Socialism means something in the world of Bernie Sanders and AOC,
but it means something much different among the nation's voters.
Among voters who have a favorable view of socialism, seventy
four percent also have a favorable view of free markets.

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Not only that, but only a third thirty four percent
of those who say they like socialism think more regulation
and government involvement are good for the economy. Those are
completely incoherent unless they have no idea what socialism actually is.
The ten percenters fighting over socialism are fighting as if
they understand it. They're just not paying attention to what

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voters think it means. Among all voters, just fifty one
percent believe that socialism is a system of higher taxes
and extensive control of the economy by a central government.
If the ten percent paid attention of voters, they'd realize
just how little public support there is for socialism. Just
six percent of voters reckgnize the reality of true socialism

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and have a favorable opinion of it. Another six percent
recognize that reality and have a somewhat favorable opinion of socialism.
So in the real world, it's about messaging, and the
best way to fight back is to point back at
the people who want it with two questions. Number one,
would you say that the government run institutions in the

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United States of America or at the city and state level,
are the finest operations in the country? And number two,
where has socialism done anything but destroy economies, destroy standards
of living, and lead to totalitarianism? And if they need
the most recent example, just send them to Nicaragua. No,
I mean literally send them to Nicaragua.

Speaker 2 (34:47):
We'll be right back. Keep it on KOA.

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Speaker 3 (35:06):
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Speaker 4 (35:10):
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That guy over there, that's Anthony Rodriguez, and together we'll
take you right up until three pm, when we will
hand the station over to our friends on KOA Sports.
So I have a report that came out last week

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from the Common Sense Institute and it answered a question
I had since a red ranking by CNBC on TeX's
friendliness and Colorado ranked very very very high, which on paper,
you look at our taxes and you go, wow, that's
really low. But then, and this is the question I had,

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I said, what about fees? Because many many, many years ago,
when Taber started really limiting the ability of politicians to
just inflict more financial pain on us through taxes, politicians
started passing taxes, but they call them fees, and they

(36:14):
got sued over it, and the Colorado Supreme Court, in
a stunningly stupid and idiotic decision, decided that fees are
not the same as taxes. So since then, politicians of
both parties, want to be clear, mostly the Democrats, but
of both parties have used that fee to raise our

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taxes without asking us. Because if you're new to this show,
and new to Colorado, and you don't quite know what
the taxpayer Bill of Rights is.

Speaker 2 (36:41):
That's TABOR.

Speaker 4 (36:43):
All TABER does is limit the size of government growth
and limit the size of budgetary growth to inflation times
population growth.

Speaker 2 (36:51):
That's it.

Speaker 4 (36:52):
And it says, we the voters, get to decide on
whether or not we want to raise taxes on ourselves.

Speaker 2 (36:58):
So they just started calling it everything a fee.

Speaker 4 (37:01):
And here comes the common Sense Institute doing God's work,
Colorado voters.

Speaker 2 (37:06):
This is from the introduction.

Speaker 4 (37:08):
Approved TABOR to limit government revenue growth by requiring voter
approval for revenue increases above a new constitutional cap. Because
fees are generally exempt from tabor's revenue limit, governments have
increasingly relied on them to raise additional revenue. Fee collections
have grown rapidly, outpacing the state's general fund for most

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of the last two decades. Per Colorado resident fee revenue
has more than tripled since two thousand and eight, reaching
four thousand, six hundred and ninety two dollars in twenty
twenty five, with no signs of slowing.

Speaker 2 (37:44):
Our income rate.

Speaker 4 (37:45):
Our income tax rate is among the lowest in the country,
but that hides the fact the state's significant reliance on
fee revenue. If all of Colorado's fee enterprises were instead
funded by the state income tax, our income tax would
have to rise to fourteen point twenty two percent to

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generate the same amount of revenue collected in twenty twenty five.

Speaker 2 (38:13):
You heard me right.

Speaker 4 (38:15):
Even if you excluded higher education enterprises, the state income
tax would still have to increase to seven point nine
seven percent, eighty one percent more than the current rate
of four point four percent. Since twenty eighteen, voters have
approved three income tax cuts, totaling point three to eight
percentage point reduction.

Speaker 2 (38:36):
During that same period, fee based.

Speaker 4 (38:39):
Revenue from non higher education enterprises has increased by an
amount equivalent to a one point eight percentage point increase
in the state income tax. We vote for less, we're
paying more. That's not even the most irritating part.

Speaker 2 (38:57):
Listen to this.

Speaker 4 (38:57):
This UM's first year of event, that's fiscal year of
nineteen ninety four, fee based enterprises generated about seven hundred
and forty two million. By twenty twenty five, their revenue
had increased by I hope you are sitting down when.

Speaker 2 (39:14):
I say this next number.

Speaker 4 (39:16):
They had increased by almost thirty seven hundred percent to
twenty eight point two billion dollars, while the state's population
growth plus inflation totaled one hundred and eighty five percent
over the same time period. So revenue increased by over

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thirty seven hundred percent, but the tabor equation only increased
one hundred and eighty five percent over the same time period.
In nineteen ninety six, taber exempt revenue accounted for forty
six percent of the total state spunding.

Speaker 2 (39:55):
Let me try that again.

Speaker 4 (39:56):
Forty six percent of total state spending and five thousand,
two hundred and fifty four dollars per Colorado in twenty
twenty five dollars. By twenty twenty five, that figure had
increased to seventy seven percent, reaching ten thousand, six hundred
and twenty eight.

Speaker 2 (40:15):
Dollars per Coloradin.

Speaker 4 (40:18):
Come on, we passed Prop One seventeen, which required new
enterprises projected to generate revenue above a threshold to receive
voter approval. That passed in twenty twenty. Since then, the
legislature has directly established ten new enterprises, which together have
generated a total of ninety eight millions since their inception.

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They this is why they don't care about Tabor's revenue
caps anymore.

Speaker 2 (40:48):
They don't care.

Speaker 4 (40:51):
They don't care, and they know that the idiotic Colorado
justices have given them plenty of just go right ahead,
keep raising people's taxes against their expressly expressed wishes. Taber
passed by a healthy margin. That was Colorado voters saying,

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don't take more of my money without asking. Oh, politicians,
they are slick, they are slick. And yes, by the way,
this is a bi partisan problem. Now, under the last
six years, has it exploded. Yes, Total fees increased to
twenty five point eight billion in fiscal year twenty twenty

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four to twenty eight point two billion in twenty twenty five.
That was almost ten percent growth, ten percent. It was
driven across gains across fee categories. Now here's the dirty
little secret about fees. They hit poor people the hardest because,

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you know, you can be in a lower tax bracket
and you can file your income taxes and you're gonna
get a lot of that money back, if not more
money than you paid it. Those are taxes you have
an opportunity to, you know, get take advantage of tax
breaks and things of that nature, earned income tax credits,
things of that nature.

Speaker 2 (42:13):
But if you're poor.

Speaker 4 (42:15):
And you order something from Amazon, you're paying the thirty
same thirty cent fee.

Speaker 2 (42:19):
It has gone up because of inflation.

Speaker 4 (42:23):
You're paying the same fee that the rich guy living
down the street is paying. All of these fees are
regressive for that reason. It's so gross. It's just so
incredibly gross.

Speaker 2 (42:38):
Mandy, you can vote.

Speaker 4 (42:39):
Greg Lopez made the ballot for governor. Yeah, we're gonna
be talking a lot about the election after Labor Day.
I learned in my many, many years on the radio
that no one pays attention in the summer, and frankly,
I like a break. You like a break. So we'll
be talking to all the all. Well, no, we're not
going to talk to all the options, but we're gonna
talk to some of the options. Mandy, can the Federal

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Supreme Court way in on taxes versus fees considering Obamacare
passed the Supreme Court because penalties and fees were deemed taxes.
Doesn't that have legal standing against Colorado's definition of taxes
versus fees?

Speaker 2 (43:15):
I don't think so.

Speaker 4 (43:16):
Because this is a uniquely Colorado law, and the Colorado
Supreme Court, you know, in their dumb ass, bastardized definition
of fees and taxes when levied by government. I don't
think there's any recourse there. And because of that ruling,
because and because of this report, taper's been rendered pretty useless.

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It was designed to stop the growth of government.

Speaker 2 (43:41):
It hasn't worked.

Speaker 4 (43:43):
It was designed to control politicians and their ability to
extract more of our money out of our pockets. And
with this fee situation, it obviously hasn't worked. And now
I'm wondering, and I'm being genuine about this, would the
budget have been allowed to grow at that rate? If
everything if we didn't have tabor? Hear me out, If

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we didn't have TABOR, so politicians had to get creative
and hide the new ways they have for dipping into
our pockets.

Speaker 2 (44:11):
Would they have been.

Speaker 4 (44:12):
Bold enough to explode the size of government the way
they have. One of the reasons that Democrats hate TABOR
is because it reminds people those who pay attention. Somebody
hit me up on the Common Spirit Health Tech text
line and said, Mandy, I was on Reddit. Let me
see if I can find it. First of all, Reddit

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is not real life. I think out of all of
the places where people make comments, Reddit is the absolute worst.

Speaker 2 (44:42):
It truly is.

Speaker 4 (44:43):
It's just it's horrible. It's a cesspool, an absolute cesspool.
But that being said, they're asking specifically if there's anything
that we can do about this issue, and I don't
know the answer. I really don't, unless, of course, there

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would be some other challenge to this fee situation.

Speaker 2 (45:07):
And here's the thing.

Speaker 4 (45:08):
When faced with the evidence of how fees have been
used to fund the government, how in the world can
you argue that something like an Amazon delivery fee where
the government has nothing to do with any of that
except the roads that the Amazon driver rides on which
they're doing a garbage job taking care of. When does
the taxpayer get to look at the government and say, hey,

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you're taking all this money for fees, but then you're
diverting it to pay for illegal immigrant housing and computers and.

Speaker 2 (45:36):
Homeless hotels and other stuff.

Speaker 4 (45:38):
You're diverting the tax dollars that you told me were
fees that they were going to pay to fill the potholes.
When do we get to say that to our government?
I mean, ultimately, the only way to do it is
to completely change government. But Republicans have really gone into
there have been times when they have loved the opportunity
to charge a fee. I should have gotten examp because

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I looked it up like six weeks ago.

Speaker 2 (46:02):
But I don't know.

Speaker 4 (46:04):
Mandy didn't Accounty get sued for cutting fees that didn't
match what they used the money for.

Speaker 2 (46:08):
I don't know about that.

Speaker 4 (46:11):
I'd love to know if your county was part of that,
getting sued for creating fees that that didn't match what
the money was supposed to go for.

Speaker 2 (46:18):
But see, here's the thing.

Speaker 4 (46:19):
Is it just in the language or is it actually
what they're spending money on?

Speaker 2 (46:24):
Because when I.

Speaker 4 (46:25):
First moved here, they just jacked up the cost to
register your car.

Speaker 2 (46:31):
It is so stupid expensive to.

Speaker 4 (46:33):
Register a car here. It is so dumb that money
was going to go to pay to.

Speaker 2 (46:39):
Fix the roads. Well, where where is that money? What
did we do with that? I'd like to see receipts.

Speaker 4 (46:46):
I'd like to see a spreadsheet you can put in Excel,
just to make it easy for me. On one column
you have the money brought in from those fees, and
the other column is a list of receipts of where
you spent that money that you lied and told was
gonna go pay for this. When is that gonna happen.
I have a story on the blog today about that

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I've really I put on the blog simply because people
didn't listen the last time, and they need to listen
this time because what's happening, specifically is that Wait a minute,
let's get into that story in just a moment. Let
me finish my thought on this other stuff, because it's important.
More money is being sucked out of your pocket and

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my pocket. Colorado has at this point, our inflation is
in check, but we have a slower recovery than our
competing states around us.

Speaker 2 (47:39):
It's just factual, and yet no one is.

Speaker 4 (47:42):
Asking why, especially like a state like Utah that has
similar terrain. They have skiing, they have all of that stuff.
Why are they booming while we are limping along? We've
got to ask these questions. And I'm hoping as we
move forward, and I'm hoping that we're gonna have the
opportunity to have candidates on the show to talk about
their vision for Colorado, both Democrat and Republican. I'm especially

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interested in the Democratic candidates because I'd really like to
know how they're going to make it all work, because
all of the things that have been told to me
since I've been here in twenty thirteen have turned out
to be lies. And I don't even mean like you know, oh,
they were just wrong. No, when you're wrong again and
again and again and again, at what point do we

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say we're not going to listen to you anymore. I
think that's where I am. I'm just throwing that out there.
Here's an update. Remember when voters were told that the
ballot initiative Healthy School Meals for All. Remember how they
were going to tax the rich and it was going
to provide free breakfast and lunch for all public school
students in the state, as well as paying cafeteria staff more. Yep,

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they funded the program through a tax that most people
didn't pay. It was an a tax increase on households
making more than three hundred thousand dollars a year. And
it was told, hey, you know what, We're going to
tax the rich, and the rich are going to pay
for all these school lunches. Well from Denver Gazette. Because
initial estimates fell short of the actual costs, the program

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ran into fiscal challenges right from the start and had
never been deployed in its entirety. A pair of ballot
measures approved by the voters last year allows the state
to keep additional revenue and interest from our tabor refunds
to pay for it. Now, see, what they did was
tell you that they were going to tax the rich

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and then they were going to pay for the lunches.
But what ended up happening was they didn't make enough
money from the rich to do it. So now they're
taking money from you and a Rod and everybody else
who didn't necessarily pay that income tax hit, but now
you're going to pay it. There's so many things that
are about to be on that ballot. The idiotic prop

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nn so stupid if you really think all that money
is going to go to education. I've got a bridge
in Brooklyn that I'd love to sell you because you
are that gullible. How many times do they have.

Speaker 2 (50:09):
To lie to you?

Speaker 4 (50:09):
How many times do you have to get snooker before
you start to wise up?

Speaker 2 (50:14):
Mandy?

Speaker 4 (50:14):
What about the legalization of marijuana going to build schools?
All of that money was stolen to I do think
it's worth asking the question, where's the spreadsheet on that?

Speaker 2 (50:25):
Where is it? Mandy? Why register?

Speaker 4 (50:29):
If they won't pull you over? That is a very
good point. If you're driving around Denver, no need to
get your tags done. They won't pull you over for
your low level offense.

Speaker 2 (50:41):
Mandy.

Speaker 4 (50:43):
That's why I register my vehicles in South Dakota way cheaper. Okay,
So I had this story on the blog maybe last week.
I don't know if it was last week or it
was last week, about the Montana loophole. Listen to this,
you guys. So people who buy ultra luxury cars, cars
that cost one hundred thousand, well now one hundred thousand
dollar cars, a big truck, I'm talking, you know, Lamborghinis

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and stuff like that. They buy the car and then
they register it in Montana. You can start an LLC
in Montana for like paperwork in a couple hundred bucks.
So then they register the car to the company in
Montana and avoid paying all of.

Speaker 2 (51:20):
The sales taxes here in Colorado.

Speaker 4 (51:22):
And it's perfectly legal as long as they're incorporated in Montana.
If you want to know why rich people are rich,
it's because they can pay people to come up with
these strategies to avoid ridiculously high taxes. And I'm sure you,
sir or madam, registering your vehicles in South Dakota is
the same, Mandy. Don't you mean the ocean front property
in Arizona you'd like to sell them? Correct, Mandy, These

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fees sound like tariffs, except tariffs are a function of
the federal government and fees are completely different. They're just
taxes in another name, as are tariffs. I'm not a
fan of tariffs anyway. So that's what's going on. It's all,
it's just, it's just it's just ridiculous, you guys, absolutely ridiculous. Hey,

(52:13):
if you're headed downtown to the ac DC show or
the Megan is it Meghan Maroney? Is that her name?
Do you know her name? Is that it Meghan Maroney?
She's playing at Ball Arena. Ac DC is playing at
Mile High And I'm sure it's not gonna be as
loud as a Christopher Nolan movie. But take your ear
plugs if you're going to ac DC. I'm just saying,

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seen him multiple times and we're all.

Speaker 2 (52:38):
Old, Mandy.

Speaker 4 (52:39):
The Bell Policy Center, Ug, yes, ug, yes ug. The
thing about the Bell Policy Center, they're a left wing
think tank.

Speaker 2 (52:52):
The people that.

Speaker 4 (52:52):
Give the Bell Policy Center money somebody had to make
that money in the capitalist system that the Bell pol
Center really doesn't like at all.

Speaker 2 (53:03):
They don't like success. They don't like you know, people
achieving at a high level.

Speaker 4 (53:08):
And I always think to myself, like, who's giving them money?

Speaker 2 (53:13):
Who? Because poor people don't give to.

Speaker 4 (53:15):
A policy center, You guys, that's not where they donate
their money. I'm not saying they don't make charitable donations,
but they're not gonna be donating to a policy center.

Speaker 2 (53:24):
This is not gonna happen. So who are these rich people?

Speaker 4 (53:28):
My guess is this? I wonder you know what. I'm
going to run this through chat GBT on this break.
I have a theory about who donates to the Bell
Policy Center and where they got their money. One thing
I learned about being in Louisville, Kentucky. So Louisville has
a ton an absolute crap ton of really incredibly wealthy,

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inherited money people, and they're all super left wing because
they didn't make a single dollar. They just got it
free from someone else, and they apparently think that's what
happens for everyone. I'm gonna check and see if that's
what's happening here when we get back. Let's move in
a completely different direction for a moment. Can we just
talk about Cracker Barrel because Cracker Barrel just announced they fired.

Speaker 2 (54:12):
The CEO who decided to do the.

Speaker 4 (54:15):
Ridiculous boring rebrands for their restaurants and created a huge backlash.
But that is not where they need to be paying
attention because every time we go to Ohio, we eat
at a Cracker Barrel, same one, and the last two
times that I've been, it's like we're focusing on putting

(54:35):
lipstick on a pig, but the pig itself is the problem.
And I say this as someone who absolutely loved Cracker
Barrel for.

Speaker 2 (54:44):
My entire adult life.

Speaker 4 (54:45):
My first restaurant job was at Cracker Barrel, so I
love the place. But man, when you see something you
love kind of falling apart, you just feel like you
need to do something to intervene.

Speaker 2 (54:58):
And that's what I'm doing next. Get right here on KOA.

Speaker 4 (55:01):
Now, we got to talk about something really important for
just a moment, and that is what is almost certain
to be the.

Speaker 2 (55:07):
Death of Cracker Barrel.

Speaker 4 (55:09):
And it pains me to say this. Cracker Barrel was
my first restaurant job. They opened one up. My hometown
is one of those hometowns that was forever reshaped when
the Interstate Highway came through it, and now my hometown
is where two interstate highways meet US ninety and I

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seventy five. And when I was a junior in high school,
it was announced we were getting a Cracker Barrel.

Speaker 2 (55:36):
Y'all.

Speaker 4 (55:36):
It was like it was like they were moving the
capitol of Florida to my hometown. When we found out
we were getting Cracker Barrel, that's what a big.

Speaker 2 (55:43):
Deal it was.

Speaker 4 (55:44):
It was still like fifteen years before we got an
olive garden. Okay, that's the size of the town we're
talking here.

Speaker 2 (55:49):
So it was a really big deal and I was
super excited. I was in high school.

Speaker 4 (55:52):
I went and got a job at Cracker Barrel, my
very first restaurant job, and I was a hostess because
I was only seventeen and you couldn't be a server
unless you were eighteen.

Speaker 2 (56:02):
I don't know why, though they didn't have alcohol. Now.

Speaker 4 (56:06):
I loved working there. It was such a great experience.
It was my first experience with really good corporate training.
They brought in all these phenomenal Crackerberry employees from all
over the country to train everybody about the Cracker Barrel
way and customer service and smiling and asking people. You know,
It's like, it was just a great place to work,

(56:26):
and it was a really good foundation for me learning
how to give great customer service in a restaurant environment.
And I took still to this day probably use some
of the tools that I learned there. So it pains
me to say and maybe I just went to a
bad Cracker Barrel.

Speaker 2 (56:41):
I don't know. First of all, when you go to
Cracker Barrell, now.

Speaker 4 (56:44):
If you don't have gray hair, you do not fit
in with that crowd, Okay. And I am not saying
anything about our season citizens. I am not not one
little bit. This is not disparaging. But when your entire
restaurant is full of people who are closer to the
exit of life than they are the entrance, that's a problem.

(57:07):
But let's talk about the food for just a minute.
One of the people that I became friends with were
friendly with when I worked at Crackerbeil was the woman
whose sole job was making the biscuits.

Speaker 2 (57:18):
That was all she did.

Speaker 4 (57:19):
She just made biscuits all day, and the biscuits were
ridiculously good, so flipping good for breakfast anything with Hash
Brown castrole. But this last two visits to Cracker Barrel.

Speaker 2 (57:31):
Even the hash brown cast role wasn't good.

Speaker 4 (57:35):
It was coldish, kind of really crunchy on top, really
crunchy on top. Let me know when the EAES warning
is over. I'm just talking for the people on the
stream right now, it's over.

Speaker 2 (57:45):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (57:46):
So now that the AAS report interrupted my biscuit story.
So one of my favorite prep cooks, all she did
was make biscuits when Chuck and I were in Crackerbail,
not this last time, but the time before that. So
like eight months ago, the waitress told us the biscuits
it's came in frozen now and you can tell they
were not good at all. And it's like, guys, making

(58:08):
good biscuits is really hard to master. But once you
master it, making good biscuits is not hard. It's super easy.
The problem is it's a payroll expense. So it's very
frustrating when you see something that has always just been
so incredibly good and they're spending money in the wrong
places and they're not making sure that their product is

(58:29):
where it needs to be, like in a perfect world.
And I love the Cracker Barrel Old Country store. I
have bought more useless crap out of the old Country
store than I care to even think about. I have
purchased clothing at Cracker Barrel.

Speaker 2 (58:45):
Yeah, but if.

Speaker 4 (58:48):
They needed to get rid of that to make the
whole thing work and just focus on the food, Like,
why not start there unless they're making more money off
the store than they are at the restaurant. I didn't
think about that until just now. Mandy Cracker Barrel rules.
Where where is the ruling Cracker Barrel where? I'm just
worried Mandy's special weather walking on you?

Speaker 2 (59:11):
So is I'm back?

Speaker 5 (59:12):
Now?

Speaker 2 (59:12):
Right? Am I back? Am I back? I'm back, I'm back.

Speaker 4 (59:17):
I'm just curious. So how's the Cracker Barrel in Denver?
It's too far for me to drive it's on the
other side. I don't drive far for breakfast. I don't
wait in line for breakfast. I don't drive far for breakfast.
By the time I get up and get moving, I
am hungry. And nobody needs to see what happens when
I am hungry.

Speaker 2 (59:35):
You do not need to do.

Speaker 4 (59:36):
It, Okay, So ay, Rod, My favorite video that you
sent me today is Ryan Reynolds walking around as Gray
Deadpool at Comic Con. Now, let me just say this,
I have no idea who Gray Deadpool is. I have
no clue, no idea, but he's wearing a full costume,
and all I could think of, did you think about
this a rod? How great must that have been for

(59:57):
Ryan Reynolds to just be a guy in a cost
instead of Ryan Reynolds walking around.

Speaker 6 (01:00:02):
That had to be cool for him too, Absolutely fantastic.
And by the way, he coined it as his Canadian tuxedo.

Speaker 5 (01:00:09):
Oh alt denim, al denim.

Speaker 6 (01:00:12):
Or for the nerds out there that are gonna see
Spider Man this week, people are saying, oh, maybe as
in it looks.

Speaker 2 (01:00:18):
Like jeans, as in Jean Gray, a.

Speaker 5 (01:00:21):
Character that could be in the Marvel movie this week.

Speaker 2 (01:00:25):
I don't know what any of that meant. I have
no idea what.

Speaker 5 (01:00:27):
She's an X Man? It's fine?

Speaker 2 (01:00:28):
Oh wait, is she the one? Didn't she die?

Speaker 5 (01:00:30):
Though it's a new it's there.

Speaker 6 (01:00:32):
They're restall, reinstalling, restarting the entire X Men thing. Anyway, Yeah, awesome,
And imagine the hundreds and hundreds of people that saw
that video and go, oh my god.

Speaker 5 (01:00:46):
Winter a bitual Ryan Reynolds.

Speaker 2 (01:00:47):
If we didn't even sell it.

Speaker 4 (01:00:50):
Oh no, there's one of my favorite stories about the
former Queen of England, the late Queen Elizabeth god Rest
her soul.

Speaker 2 (01:00:56):
I was a huge Queen Elizabeth fan.

Speaker 4 (01:00:58):
There was a story about tours who were in Scotland
and they were hiking and they got lost, and they
wandered on to Balmoral, which was their property in Scotland,
and they encountered this smallish woman wearing a scarf around
her head and big glasses and they started chatting with
her and this woman.

Speaker 2 (01:01:14):
Said, oh, where are you? You know, where are you from?

Speaker 4 (01:01:16):
They said, oh, we're from the United States, but we're
a little bit lost. We were trying to hike and
we are not quite sure where we are. And we
heard that the Queen lives around here. And the woman said,
oh she does.

Speaker 2 (01:01:27):
And they're like, oh, my gosh. You know the Queen.
She said, I do. And they said how is she?
What is she like?

Speaker 4 (01:01:32):
She said, I think she's lovely. They had no idea
it was the Queen of ang Eye.

Speaker 6 (01:01:36):
I unfortunately had one of these I've shut up, who
were you talking to?

Speaker 5 (01:01:40):
Leave? Not talking to you? Just hanging around for a while.

Speaker 6 (01:01:43):
I think it was at a Broncos home game and
I was just hanging out next to the fields, chatting,
just you know, doing my thing, shooting some video and
there's a group of guys just just hanging near me
for a while, and I mean for a while, and
later I was like, oh, that was Wou Tang clan.

Speaker 2 (01:02:01):
Saw Blue Tang forever.

Speaker 4 (01:02:04):
Except when a rod doesn't recognize them at the Broadcoast game.

Speaker 2 (01:02:07):
Yeah, I was like, oh, that's fantastic.

Speaker 4 (01:02:11):
Oh, I have a good story about meeting a famous
person and not knowing they were famous that I'll share next.

Speaker 2 (01:02:15):
Keep it on Koa.

Speaker 4 (01:02:16):
I've got a bunch of other stuff on the blog,
but I want to make sure I get this in
today because I think.

Speaker 2 (01:02:21):
This is a huge story, huge story. There's two stories here.

Speaker 4 (01:02:26):
One, Democrats are increasingly leaning in on anti data center sentiment. Now,
I've been doing a very interesting thing in one of
my hometown Facebook groups. My town in Florida is still
pretty I mean it's a small city, big town, but

(01:02:50):
there's a lot of storm and drawing on this website,
on this Facebook group about data centers. So I keep
throwing in new information and more information and more facts,
and it's fair. It's just it's been fast to see
people respond with the same talking points, but not be
able to explain why they aren't paying attention to the
newest information on data centers.

Speaker 2 (01:03:12):
It's just there is this wall.

Speaker 4 (01:03:15):
Of misinformation about data centers that is flying around social media.
How is it getting there? The American Energy Institute, which
is a pro oil and gas, pro energy website, to
be clear, they dug in to who is paying for
the network of activist groups that are running these campaigns

(01:03:35):
against data centers, And though I would have bet my
money on China, it is not. In December, more than
two hundred and thirty left wing activist organizations, many affiliated
with the groups highlighted in this report, sign a letter
demanding Congress impose a national moratorium on the approval and
construction of new data centers, calling the industry quote one

(01:04:00):
of the biggest environmental and societal threats of our generation.
Lots of local chapters have organized protest and they're doing
public pressure campaigns, all of this stuff. But who is
funding those organizations? So an analysis from Americans for Public Trust,

(01:04:23):
which is a nonprofit watchdog that tracks foreign money influencing
American politics, They've identified several foreign individuals and charities that
are bankrolling a network of left wing activist organizations that
fund protests, climate activism, litigation, and more. Hans jord Weiss Vice.
He's a Swiss billionaire. His funds are channeled through the

(01:04:45):
Vice Foundation and Burger Action Fund. Chris Hone He's a
British hedge fund manager known for funding climate and social advocacy,
The Quadrature Climate Foundation, the k R Foundation, Denmark based
green Energy, Thione Thropic Organization, and the Oak Foundation.

Speaker 2 (01:05:03):
Many many, many.

Speaker 4 (01:05:04):
Of these organizations are directly tied to the renewable energy industry.
Why would they care about data centers? Data centers are
undoing the lie that renewable energy can run our economy.
We had a guy calling or a text in yesterday.
You know, we're in an energy emergency and I'm not
going to sit in a hot house for data centers.
I'm like, you're not sitting in a hot house for

(01:05:26):
data centers. You're sitting in a hot house because renewable
energy is unreliable energy and they know it. They know it,
so in order to get us to do the switch,
they have to like, look over here, look over here.
So we don't start talking about the fact that data centers,
who absolutely need consistent power twenty four hours a day,

(01:05:47):
seven days a week, three hundred and sixty five days
a year, something we as energy consumers should also demand.
By the way, it's exposing green energy as the lie
that it is. Right now, they lay out forty billion
dollars from foreign sources that are funding the anti data

(01:06:08):
center movement. So yeah, I mean, all I ask is
that before people reflexively say no, let's have a conversation
about the things that you are concerned about. I posted
on my local hometown Facebook page, and I'm causing a
problem in I posted. I said, look, some of these

(01:06:30):
data centers could be run by natural gas turbines that
the same decibel level as a blow dryer. And this
guy was like, oh, yeah, I've never seen anything like
that before.

Speaker 2 (01:06:41):
Yeah, I'll believe it when I see it.

Speaker 4 (01:06:43):
So I send in the spec sheet for the energy
system that we talked to the guy last week about,
like it's happening, send him information about closed loop systems.
You can even use the power of government to expressly
or that any wastewater be carried off site to a

(01:07:04):
facility designed to handle it. There's so many issues that
can be mitigated, but we're not talking about the problems,
and I think that's because a lot of people have
just decided they saw something on TikTok.

Speaker 2 (01:07:15):
They saw a story that people.

Speaker 4 (01:07:17):
Are getting cancer, and they didn't look any further. They
just stopped looking. And now they don't want to solve
the problems or mitigate the risks. They just want to
reflexively say no because that's what they're seeing and everybody
wants to be part of the cool kids team. The
problem with that, and this is the big, massive, huge problem,

(01:07:38):
is that everything in the world is going to run
through data centers, and if we don't build them, our
entire economy will lag behind. All you have to do
is look at Europe and see everything they've done from
promising and swearing to go to net zero, so now
they have the highest electricity prices in the world in

(01:08:00):
the modern world.

Speaker 2 (01:08:01):
They're in Europe.

Speaker 4 (01:08:02):
We can be like that, or we can figure out
how to manage this, address concerns that people have and
allow the process to take place with all of those
safety features in place. We cannot stop data centers. That's
not going to stop, but we can do it better
and we can address concerns and we can let people

(01:08:23):
have some sense that everyone has been heard, but some
people don't want to be heard. They just don't want
data centers. We'll be right back, keep it on KWA.

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together we will take you right up until three pm
when the men of Kawa Sports take over. And in
the meantime we have lots and lots and lots of
stuff to talk about. We were talking about data centers
before the break, and this is it's so strange to

(01:09:23):
me that people have been so easily trans fixed by
this issue and how quickly they've been demagogue. It's just
been fascinating to watch, really fascinating to watch, and not
in a great way. But I'll continue talking about it.

(01:09:44):
Somebody just sent me an article from Let's see here.
Oh wait, oh, Dan, I can't find it. Oh here
it is this startup wants to put a data center.

Speaker 2 (01:09:55):
In your backyard. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:09:59):
Launched in twenty eighteen, Span produces smart electrical panels that
can provide granular breakdowns of household energy usage, for example,
how much electricity a refrigerator consumes. The new solution, which
it calls Xtra, reportedly uses built in intelligence of spans
smart electrical panels to tap additional electrical service capacity from

(01:10:23):
the existing grid. The company says it does not expect
these many data centers to replace traditional large scale facilities,
but rather to provide a low cost, low latency solution
that can scale quickly. I'm telling you guys, they're not
going away, not at all, so we better figure out
how to manage it before it runs us over.

Speaker 2 (01:10:46):
Hey, I thought this was interesting.

Speaker 4 (01:10:48):
Did you see this story on the c people a
rod Because people who do not know the Odyssey was
based on real people and real events. This is pretty
well accepted, not breaking new ground here or throwing out
a conspiracy theory. And it was contemporaneous with the fall
of the Bronze Age, and the Bronze Age was a
time of great cooperation and economic growth, and the world

(01:11:12):
was happy and peaceful and then it all went down
in a handbasket. And throughout the movie The Odyssey, they
referenced the sea people are the people, the people that
are coming from the sea, and the people were coming
from the sea, were coming in.

Speaker 2 (01:11:24):
And they were marauding.

Speaker 4 (01:11:26):
They were just racking, just sacking and pillaging and doing
everything that They were not good people. But were they
real and did they really cause the Bronze Age collapse?
Do you find any of this stuff interesting now that
you saw the movie, A rider're like, huh, what did
happen after the Bronze Age?

Speaker 2 (01:11:42):
Is that stuff that?

Speaker 4 (01:11:43):
Because that was one of the things that I thought
of There was a reference to it in the in
the show and then like two hundred years of darkness
after the fall of the Bronze Age, and I thought
to myself, is that accurate? And it is two hundred
years of not good times at all, war, pestilence, drought, famine,
all of the bad things for two hundred years.

Speaker 5 (01:12:04):
Yeah, it's super interesting.

Speaker 6 (01:12:06):
Especially it's like the legend grew over time because it
took a lot of time for people to find out
about what was going on.

Speaker 5 (01:12:12):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:12:13):
Well, it's also.

Speaker 4 (01:12:14):
The fact that it was still an oral tradition back then,
so you had to have storytellers who told the story
over and over and over and over again. And that's
where the Odyssey came from. It's just a very long
poem that is a series of stories that people would
go and I mean they didn't have they didn't have TV,
they didn't have any entertainment other than musicians that would

(01:12:35):
play court jesters or clowns that would perform. And these
people who made their living going from you know, with
sort of tavern to tavern, sort of sharing.

Speaker 2 (01:12:47):
These epic tales.

Speaker 4 (01:12:48):
Sometimes they took days to tell them all, so you
go like a serial format.

Speaker 2 (01:12:53):
It was just really remarkable.

Speaker 4 (01:12:54):
But History dot com, I guess has been peppered with
questions because they decided to answer them. Were the Sea
Peoples responsible for the end of the good times of
the Bronze Age? Well, the answer is yes and no.
As it usually is, you don't have just one reason
for this. Well, the Sea Peoples were eventually defeated in

(01:13:18):
the early twelve to seventy BC range, but around twelve
oh eight BC.

Speaker 2 (01:13:24):
More action was required.

Speaker 4 (01:13:27):
Pharaoh Maritupta and his army contested the Sea Peoples in
the Western Devil Delta of the Battle of Parreer.

Speaker 2 (01:13:34):
After a six hour battle.

Speaker 4 (01:13:36):
The Egyptians prevailed, largely thanks to their skilled archers and chariotry.
The victory was recorded in the Great Karnak Inscription in
the Karnak Temple complex in Luxor, Egypt. So the Sea
Peoples suffered their final defeat around eleven seventy seven by
Pharaoh Ramses the third. So the Sea Peoples advanced on

(01:13:57):
Egypt and they were defeated they by the Egyptian military.
Now here's something interesting. Who were the Sea peoples? The
answer is ooh, We're not sure, but listen to this.
Rather than forming a singular army, Sea Peoples were described
as migrants who attacked Anatolia, Cyprus, Syria, parts of Egypt

(01:14:19):
for grain and other food. The Syrian trading city of
Ugarit was completely destroyed by the Sea Peoples around twelve
hundred BC. The coastal invasions are estimated to have lasted
for a century a century.

Speaker 2 (01:14:32):
So who were they?

Speaker 4 (01:14:33):
Well, they were people whose own means of making a
living were destroyed by drought. And drought was many, many,
many years long, so it caused famine. It stopped trade.
It weakened major kingdoms, and that prompted the kind of

(01:14:54):
mass migration to other areas that sort of created this
stew of immigrants. It led to the rise of the
Sea peoples. So the Bronze Age came to a halt,
not just because of the Sea peoples. They're thought to
pay a significant role, a role we don't know exactly how,
but they were just one of several contributing factors. And

(01:15:15):
the reality is this, when you look down at the
Mayan ruins or the Aztec ruins in South and Central
America and Mexico, they have no idea why those civilizations
just disappeared, but it's more than likely that it was
some kind of climate change, that there was something happening
that changed the climate in such a drastic way that

(01:15:37):
they were unable to continue to live in those areas.

Speaker 2 (01:15:41):
The only reason I bring this up.

Speaker 4 (01:15:43):
Is because climate change has been happening since the beginning
of time and stopped. It's time to stop pretending we
can change that and start looking at real ways to
mitigate that. As we enter a horrible drought year, brow
that's what we should be thinking of. Perhaps that's where
we should be going instead. Of wasting our time trying

(01:16:06):
to change things that we cannot change. One of the
most powerful sub stories in the Odyssey is the story
of how, oh my gosh, this king, what's the king's
name is? His name just went right out of my
head a right, Agamemnon. Agamemnon's death is the punctuation mark
on one of the most powerful stories in the Odyssey,

(01:16:29):
when you put superstition above common sense. But nonetheless, the
sea people's they are real, they were part of the
Bronze Age, but they were sort of created by all
these other factors. I'm just saying, perhaps we should pay
attention invasions. Just throwing that out there, take a quick

(01:16:50):
time out, We'll be right back. Jimmy Sangenberger has a
column in today's Denver Gazette about the campaign violent campaign
finance violations that are being investigated by the Colorado's Secretary
of State's office against Victor Marx now.

Speaker 2 (01:17:05):
Vic has been accused of over of.

Speaker 4 (01:17:09):
Taking over the limit donations, and that happens, it does happen.
Campaigns are given the chance to do what's called cure
the situation, meaning they have to not only refund the
amount to the donors. They then have to demonstrate those
refunds to the Secretary of State's office. And Jimmy asked

(01:17:32):
the question in this column if Secretary of State Jannet
Griswold's Elections division slow walked it, he doesn't use the
words slow walked it. I'm gonna use the word slow
walked it. Slow walk the investigation into the campaign finance
violations in order to ensure that Mark's had the best
chance of winning because he is so incredibly beatable. Now,

(01:17:55):
although I don't disagree with the strategy, it would be
appalling if that was at all case. What I'm more
likely to think is that maybe it's just another example
of the incompetence of her office. I don't know, but
his campaign filed an intent to cure on June eighth,
claiming to have refunded the excess or reassigned donations to donors' spouses.

(01:18:17):
And that's in the case of with if a donor
made a donation that exceeded the campaign limits because they
were making a donation for them and their spouse, you
can't do that. The division requested proof on June eleventh,
and the campaign has not answered or provided documentation. No
word on which member of the crack team that Vic

(01:18:38):
has assembled is going to be blamed for this. I'm
sure it'll be another independent contractor someone that's not accountable
at all. No buck stops here in that campaign. Now,
Jimmy goes further to talk about the timeline of when
the complaints were filed by Darcy sheningg and when exactly
action was taken.

Speaker 2 (01:18:59):
The problem is is that.

Speaker 4 (01:19:00):
There doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason on
when the Secretary of State's office actually investigates this stuff.
By the way, it's complaint tallies fifty eight ninety five
dollars and ninety three cents in refunds, far short of
the seventy eighty six hundred and thirteen fifteen cents in
excess contributions, So we don't know if it's been fully cured.

Speaker 2 (01:19:26):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:19:27):
If the Marx campaign had the money. I mean, I'm
sure he has. Now he's been having these big rallies
full of people. I've been invited to multiple of them.
Y'all are very sweet, but no, no, no, I.

Speaker 2 (01:19:42):
Have no desire to go.

Speaker 4 (01:19:44):
Same reason I don't think I would go to a
Trump rally because they're all just such raw, raw cheerleader
events and no substance and no not going to do it,
have no desire to do it. Now if at Griswold,
Secretary of State's office, which I've been following, if you
don't follow Mike O'Donnell on X, he is a very

(01:20:07):
kind man. I'm gonna get him on the show after
I get back from vacation to talk about the work
that he's doing right now. He is combing through the
voter rolls right now looking for anomalies. Anomalies like twenty
eight people registered for the same address at a soup kitchen.
I mean, guys, I've said it before, I'll say it again.

(01:20:30):
I know it's horrible and heartless and mean, but if
you're living on the streets, I'm not sure I want
you casting a ballot to make decisions about other people's lives.
I don't mean to be a jerk about it, but
your opinion on how to direct the country, the city,
and the state, I'm not sure you make good choices.
Maybe we should just leave that to those people who

(01:20:52):
are not in that much of a pickle. Again, it
would be an outstanding campaign strategy, but also appalling at
the same time, regardless of who did it, if that
were the case. So we'll have to wait and see
what comes of this. We'll have to wait and see
if fixed campaign is actually giving the money back. Unfortunately,

(01:21:16):
no one cares about campaign finance violations, literally no one.
I bet you could go back and you could find
for every major politician, probably including Donald Trump, probably I know,
Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, all of these people have had
quote campaign finance violations, but it doesn't mean anything. They

(01:21:39):
pay a fine, they move on, there's no penalty, and
the voters don't seem to care. The voters are like,
it's probably an accident. He seems nice, It's okay. He
said he didn't mean it, and it was a contractor.

Speaker 2 (01:21:50):
Didn't you hear him? He said it.

Speaker 4 (01:21:53):
Anyway, we're gonna take a quick time out when we
get back. Not only do we have another episode of
and now you know with Chad Bower, have you noticed
that there are these stories that pop up every once
in a while, and it's some whack a doodle left
winger who made some grand pronouncement.

Speaker 2 (01:22:11):
It's not safe to be in the United States anymore.
I'm moving to another country. And then they get to
the other country and they're like, holy crap, this sucks.
I want to come home.

Speaker 4 (01:22:25):
I have one of those stories today, and it's it's
a two for really, it's a two for reminding transgender
people of how good they have it here and reminding
them of how bad it is everywhere else. Coming up next,
keep it on Kowa, Ladies and gentlemen, that song means
that our hero Chad Bower bringing in useless information that

(01:22:46):
you didn't know that you needed. Actually, I take that
back as your useful less very useful.

Speaker 2 (01:22:51):
I'd like to see you. Oh jeez, I'm sorry, Chad.

Speaker 5 (01:22:56):
That's okay.

Speaker 4 (01:22:56):
By the way, yes, our weather is affecting our our
signal right now.

Speaker 2 (01:23:01):
I mean you're getting a lot of people saying you guys.

Speaker 4 (01:23:03):
Are all in and out on Yeah, it's it looks
like we're being invaded for independence to day. So we're
gonna have some severe weather yes here, but it should
be okay.

Speaker 2 (01:23:14):
Sorry about that, Chad. Whatever do you have for us.

Speaker 4 (01:23:17):
Today in your in your useful pantheon of useful information?

Speaker 8 (01:23:22):
Well, the other day I was sitting in the drive
through as I want to do, and after wondering I
wonder when drive through restaurants first started. So I've tried
to figure it out and I did, so do you
know it's not a chain that did it? But can
you tell me approximately what year the first drive through?
Not drive in or drive up, but the drive through restaurant?

Speaker 5 (01:23:45):
When did that?

Speaker 4 (01:23:45):
Okay, so it's obviously post automobile that's got to be
a big thing. So now are we talking about like
you drive it in park and you speak in the
little speaker, or you're talking about actual drive through go around,
pick up your food for the window the ladder.

Speaker 8 (01:23:58):
Yes, because okay, the actual drive in restaurants so started
back in the twenties.

Speaker 2 (01:24:02):
Yeah, I'm going to say nineteen sixty four.

Speaker 5 (01:24:09):
I say seventy six. Actually it was nineteen forty seven.

Speaker 8 (01:24:12):
Whoa, Yeah, it was a place called Red's Giant Hamburg
because they couldn't fit the.

Speaker 5 (01:24:21):
Er on the sign.

Speaker 2 (01:24:22):
I mean, that's how big it was. That's how big
it was, really big.

Speaker 8 (01:24:25):
It was on Route sixty six in Springfield, Missouri.

Speaker 5 (01:24:28):
And so that was Stingfield.

Speaker 2 (01:24:29):
It's a hell of a town. So I do that everything.

Speaker 5 (01:24:32):
That's the first one.

Speaker 8 (01:24:33):
And what do you think the first chain restaurant that
had a drive through, and it was the following year
in nineteen forty eight, and they were the first ones
to use the two way intercom for drive through orders.

Speaker 4 (01:24:46):
I'm going to guess white Castle In and out Burger,
so dang it, yes.

Speaker 2 (01:24:52):
Stupid In and out Burger. It took In and out
Burger that long.

Speaker 4 (01:24:56):
If they were the first ones with a drive through,
it took them that law to get to Colorado.

Speaker 5 (01:25:01):
It did crazy.

Speaker 8 (01:25:03):
And one thing they also did is that when they
when you drove through there, they gave out lap mats,
which is just brown wax paper because is to prevent
customers from getting stains on their clothes or cars when
they were eating in the car, you know, because there's
a new thing. So actually gave you like a map,
and eventually they began publishing a map of Los Angeles

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because this was when it was only in Los Angeles
at the time, and they actually put a map of
LA and all the different locations. And because there's no
obviously no GPS, people used the map as a regular map,
and of course they knew where to find their favorite
In and Out.

Speaker 4 (01:25:41):
That is some slick marketing. Well done. In and Alburger,
well done, and.

Speaker 8 (01:25:45):
When you think of drive through, I mean McDonald's is
you know, one of the ones you think of, right,
But it took them until the seventies to do this.
Any idea how the McDonald's drive through got started.

Speaker 2 (01:26:00):
I'm trying to think.

Speaker 4 (01:26:00):
I mean, I remember when we got a McDonald's with
a drive through, and I was like six years old,
so that was nineteen seventy five.

Speaker 2 (01:26:07):
Did somebody, I don't know, how did it get sorted?

Speaker 5 (01:26:10):
The playplace was too busy?

Speaker 8 (01:26:11):
Well, the original plan was there were you know, because
a lot of everybody, almost everybody else was doing it.

Speaker 5 (01:26:16):
It's like, you know, why aren't we doing this?

Speaker 8 (01:26:18):
So the Dallas regional manager decided, we're going to do this,
and we're going to do the first one in Oklahoma City.
But they it took a little longer than they thought
it was and in the meantime, a franchisee out in
Sierra Vista, Arizona, was having a problem because a lot
a big put They had an army base nearby and
a big part of their customer base was the soldiers.

(01:26:42):
But apparently there was a rule that the soldiers could
not get out of their vehicles and they were wearing
their fatigues when they were not on base, right. So
this guy said, you know what they're talking about, this
drive through thing, I'm going to do it here, and
so he started it. Put a sliding window on the
wall so the could drive right up. You'll keep wearing

(01:27:02):
their fatigues and get their food, and business immediately increased
forty percent.

Speaker 2 (01:27:07):
Of course it was. I mean, here's the thing.

Speaker 4 (01:27:10):
When I was in sales, I had a towel in
the backseat of my car that I draped over myself
when I went to a drive through, because when you're
in sales, you're driving around all the time, right, So
I was just I had like, do you have that
in your car? Do you have your lap matt in
your car?

Speaker 2 (01:27:26):
Chad?

Speaker 5 (01:27:27):
I don't do you Just like you just throw caution.

Speaker 2 (01:27:29):
To the wind and eat it bean burrito and hope
it doesn't drip down your shirt.

Speaker 8 (01:27:33):
I have a mess of napkins in my in my
console just in case. How many is a messigan, I
would say at least a dozen.

Speaker 2 (01:27:42):
There you go, that is correct.

Speaker 4 (01:27:43):
So a Texter just pointed out Mandy Louisiana has drive
through dacre bars and that from see Okay, so when
I was in college, there was still a drive through
bar in Perry, Florida. So when we were driving to
go to Pensacola or Panama City, we would drive through
the drive through bar where you could literally ordered like
a margarita and drive.

Speaker 2 (01:28:03):
Away with it. It was still a thing.

Speaker 4 (01:28:05):
So that was nineteen eighty eight because they got grandfathered
in when they changed a bunch of laws as old
bar and Perry that was so apparently also extremely racist.

Speaker 2 (01:28:15):
I didn't know that until much later.

Speaker 5 (01:28:16):
Unbelievable.

Speaker 8 (01:28:17):
Now, what percentage of of a of a restaurant that
has a drive through? What percentage of the revenue do
you think is through that drive through window?

Speaker 4 (01:28:25):
Wow, I'm going to say seventy two percent.

Speaker 8 (01:28:28):
Booms between seventy and eighty depending on the restaurant.

Speaker 4 (01:28:32):
Wow, I am so talented and guessing, and god, I'm guessing.

Speaker 8 (01:28:37):
So what do you think There's something that actually became
a part of cars because of drive throughs? Cup holders Boom,
Yeah and yeah, yep. Because people needed a place to
put down their drinks, and so cup holders became, you know,
in the eighties and into the nineties. They became very
pretty much standard in every car. So you got cup holders,

(01:28:59):
no ash trace and lighters anymore.

Speaker 4 (01:29:01):
Now now we've been car shopping because we've got to
buy a third car that daughter's gonna use, and I
have been doing the cup holder count. It's like, wow,
look at the cup holders in this thing. You got
them up top, you got them down load. There's cup
holders everywhere. Like how many beverages do we need in
our cars?

Speaker 3 (01:29:16):
So?

Speaker 2 (01:29:16):
Okay? What else about drive foods? There? What Chad?

Speaker 8 (01:29:19):
They every year there's a company that does a survey
and now actually sends out humans to test this on
the speed and accuracy of the drive through various chains.
What fast food chain you think is the fastest way?

Speaker 5 (01:29:36):
That is last?

Speaker 4 (01:29:38):
Last, No, they're flow, They're not fast. I am going
to say McDonald's. I'm going to say McDonald's. McDonald's is
number eight, number one.

Speaker 8 (01:29:46):
They bring number one for several fifty year in a row,
an average of two hundred and fifty seven seconds in line.

Speaker 5 (01:29:54):
Taco Bell really, oh yeah, the fast strike.

Speaker 2 (01:29:57):
Okay, Chad, let's be real.

Speaker 4 (01:30:00):
Taco Bell has like seven ingredients and it just wraps
them up in a different way for all of their products.
Their line has nothing on it, So of course they
better be fast. But you think they could go ahead
and roll up my burrito so the back end doesn't
come out and drip the beans on my lap.

Speaker 2 (01:30:15):
You think they could.

Speaker 4 (01:30:16):
Slow down just a little bit, Chad and make that happen.
Is that too much to ask?

Speaker 8 (01:30:21):
Apparently it is, if I guess. Yeah, KFC is the
second fastest. They also include like coffee shops in this,
so Tim Horton's, the Canadian chain, third, RB's, Wendy's, Duncan
and Burger King and McDonald's.

Speaker 5 (01:30:37):
Those are your top eight. And as far as speed goes.

Speaker 4 (01:30:40):
Yeah, I've not found Chick fil A to be especially sped.

Speaker 5 (01:30:43):
You guys are going the wrong one there.

Speaker 4 (01:30:45):
So here's the thing about Chick fil A. No, no, no,
here's the thing about Chick fil A. Because they're so organized.
They are moving a huge number of people through their lines,
but they're so efficient in the way they do it
that you're sitting in line and you're like, this is
a marvel. Look at all these people that they're moving
through the line. So efvisially, you don't notice that it's
taking you three minutes, three and a half minutes to get.

Speaker 2 (01:31:04):
Your food, Just saying and I'm not mad at Chick
fil A.

Speaker 8 (01:31:07):
I'm just saying, and their customer satisfaction is the highest
my pleasure. Yes, they of course, because they're friendlier apparents,
so they so even though I'm little slower, you don't mind.

Speaker 2 (01:31:17):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (01:31:18):
It's kind of like when you go to Disney and
you're standing in line for a ride, and they have
the entire experience throughout the ride, so you don't really
care that you're in line for forty five minutes because
you get to watch the whole backstory of Spider Man
and all that stuff. It's just managing people's experience while waiting.

Speaker 8 (01:31:36):
And now pretty much every fast food joint you go
to it's it's got the AI when you order.

Speaker 5 (01:31:42):
Yeah, they've done. They did.

Speaker 8 (01:31:43):
This company also did a survey on that. You know,
I analyzed it. Humans are still better. They're about four
percent more accurate. Yeah, you have than the AI have.

Speaker 5 (01:31:55):
AI go. Welcome to Wendy's. We are so happy you're
in line.

Speaker 6 (01:31:58):
Let us know when you're ready, and we go, okay
one second, and they go, all right, let me know
when you're ready.

Speaker 4 (01:32:02):
Oh no, I want the first guy back.

Speaker 2 (01:32:07):
I want the first guy.

Speaker 4 (01:32:08):
Yeah, well, well it's not like Clara the Ai that
answer something fatty stop eating a taco bell. Okay, I
already established that when I was in sales, I would
do this, just letting you know.

Speaker 6 (01:32:20):
Ok well, some people want the diarrhea bug to lose
some pounds. Okay, God, he's.

Speaker 2 (01:32:24):
One one stomach flew away from his gold weight. People.
Don't be mad. Don't be mad, Mandy.

Speaker 4 (01:32:29):
Remember the cup holders you bought at the store and
then wedged where.

Speaker 2 (01:32:32):
The door window rolled down. Yes, And I also remember.

Speaker 4 (01:32:36):
Dumping my coffee onto my lap as I rolled up
my window manually, you know, cranking.

Speaker 2 (01:32:42):
It up and then oh geez, I've forgotten about that, man.

Speaker 5 (01:32:46):
I mean I drive in though. Can we get like
Sonic to still rollerblade? Does anyone do that?

Speaker 4 (01:32:50):
They don't do that anymore, I mean they don't. I
haven't seen a Sonic. I don't go to Sonic very often.

Speaker 5 (01:32:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:32:55):
When I first moved here, like six years ago, they
were still some of them were still on the road,
but I haven't seen any in the past few years.

Speaker 2 (01:33:02):
Want to go.

Speaker 4 (01:33:05):
I think the new ones don't even have that, Like,
they don't have the park and somebody's gonna bring it
to you feature. There were like just they're one hundred
percent focused on the drive through.

Speaker 2 (01:33:14):
These are like they just.

Speaker 4 (01:33:15):
Built one in my husband's hometown and it doesn't have
the parking spaces. It's just all drive through, and that
it has a small dining room in side. So I
think they're getting away from that model. It's got to
be kind of labor intensive, you know what I mean, Like,
what's your job. I'm on roller skates at Sonic and
I deliver food on roller skates.

Speaker 5 (01:33:31):
It's got to be a liability issue, right, uh huh.

Speaker 4 (01:33:34):
Of course, as a door dasher, there is no such
thing as a fast food restaurant anymore. None of them
are fast one at a time. All the food was
pre made and they just grabbed and bagged it and
you were gone.

Speaker 2 (01:33:45):
Not anymore.

Speaker 4 (01:33:46):
All orders are made to order, which I think is
a good thing.

Speaker 5 (01:33:50):
You don't want to sit for two hours, exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:33:54):
I have.

Speaker 4 (01:33:55):
I've now become a person who when they hand me
my bag if I'm in a drive through, I will
take a fry and if they are cold, I will
be like, I need new fries.

Speaker 2 (01:34:03):
Place. I'm now that person.

Speaker 8 (01:34:05):
I don't care because it used to be Back in
the day, there was the trick that you ordered your
fries with no salt so you knew they would make
them fresh.

Speaker 5 (01:34:12):
Yeah, and then you put salt on them.

Speaker 4 (01:34:14):
You can actually just say I'll wait for hot fries,
and they will always give you hot fries.

Speaker 2 (01:34:20):
It's true. Yeah, here's a little thing. You know what, Chad?
Is there anything else?

Speaker 1 (01:34:24):
No?

Speaker 5 (01:34:24):
That is all the info I have.

Speaker 4 (01:34:26):
Wow, Chad, there was so much there that I didn't
know about.

Speaker 5 (01:34:30):
But what was the one specific thing you really didn't
know about.

Speaker 4 (01:34:34):
I really didn't know that In and Out was the
first one to.

Speaker 2 (01:34:36):
Have a drive through.

Speaker 5 (01:34:37):
Well, Mandy, now you know close.

Speaker 4 (01:34:40):
Thank you, Chad Bower Younger in the air, it's up
in the rain. I do want to get this story
in before the end of the show, So hang out
for a moment, if you could, Chad. And because you're
my next victim for of the day, I mean my
competitor for of the day. But I've got to get
this story in. So there is now a trans woman
led the US because tear Wait a minute, oh that's

(01:35:03):
the name of the Let me find this person's name.
Michelle arc from California left the United States after, she
said it become increasingly volatile for transgender people. Arc said
that she had faced abuse on the street and while
using women's restrooms, and decided to flee the US after

(01:35:24):
a hareming incident in which she feared she'd been run
over by a truck. So she left to go to
the Netherlands. Because the Netherlands seems accepting. Everything goes there, right, Well,
here's the problem. The Netherlands has a massive refugee crisis
going on right now, and this transgender person was put
into a refugee camp with about two thousand asylum seekers

(01:35:47):
from around the globe. Imagine her shock when she was
put in with people from at Tretria, Somalia, and Syria
who don't necessarily buy into the whole trans thing. She
told a local news outlet, the situation I have in
the US as a transperson not good, right, But.

Speaker 2 (01:36:06):
Here I will be hurt or killed. It does give
you some perspective.

Speaker 4 (01:36:11):
Now, don't get me wrong, I don't want anything bad
to happen to this person, but this kind of story
happens over and over and over again, over and over again,
and yet we're still to believe that the United States
is the worst person in the world if you are not,
you know, straight and white and male.

Speaker 2 (01:36:28):
It we really have it pretty good here.

Speaker 4 (01:36:29):
I'm just saying, now, what's fascinating about this? Since May twentieth,
the Central Agency for the Reception of asylum Seekers has
limited access inside the refugee camp. Others must wait outside,
and the violence has gotten so bad that the Red
Cross will not go into the refugee camp anymore. I mean,

(01:36:54):
you guys, the Red Cross that eight volunteers felt unsafe
on the site, so they were removed. Violence there cannot
be controlled between.

Speaker 2 (01:37:06):
Here and there.

Speaker 4 (01:37:06):
There's a bunch of Moroccans or Bulgarians or whatever that
think queer people should be beaten, said the trans woman,
who is now trying to get back home.

Speaker 2 (01:37:16):
And I hope she makes it. I truly do.

Speaker 4 (01:37:21):
Hot fries means they took the cold fries and dropped
them in the fire for thirty seconds. I don't care
they're hot. Mandy, we have Sonic here in Missouri. No
roller skates, but they do bring your food to you.
Mandy asked Brownie. He gets diet coked from Sonic. Chad,
do you know who started or invented two window drive
up fast windows where you pay at the second window

(01:37:42):
and you got your food at the other one.

Speaker 2 (01:37:44):
That was day from Wendy's.

Speaker 6 (01:37:46):
Got a boy, Dave, this isn't food, but I looked up.
Do you guys know what's your guess what year they
did the start of the drive through weddings in Vegas?

Speaker 4 (01:37:55):
Gosh, uh huh, I bet that was like nineteen I'm
gonna go, nineteen fifty seven.

Speaker 5 (01:38:02):
Nineteen eighty one, nineteen fifty one. Whoa, Yeah, they even
have prices.

Speaker 6 (01:38:08):
I lost according to Price Juice, was around one hundred
and fifty dollars.

Speaker 2 (01:38:13):
Wow.

Speaker 8 (01:38:15):
They even have your funeral homes now where you can
view do viewings in your car? Oh what Yeah, there's
not very many of them, but there are some out there.

Speaker 5 (01:38:23):
So would the cremated ones be like you order it
well done?

Speaker 2 (01:38:26):
Or look?

Speaker 4 (01:38:27):
Oh stop, Anthony, what is wrong with you?

Speaker 2 (01:38:33):
Mandy?

Speaker 4 (01:38:33):
Our local Walmart tried roller skates for price checks until
the first kid got plastered by the price checker coming
around the corner.

Speaker 2 (01:38:39):
Yeah, I can't do.

Speaker 5 (01:38:40):
So ind the bag of it's not well done enough.

Speaker 2 (01:38:43):
Yeah, Mandy.

Speaker 4 (01:38:44):
That trans woman must be racist because she went to
a plate that she thought was ninety five percent white
instead of going to a place like Thailand that is
very accepting of trans people. That is an excellent point.
That is a really really good point, very good point.

Speaker 2 (01:39:00):
Mandy.

Speaker 4 (01:39:00):
I'm like Chuck. I hate the McDonald's self order kiosk.
I had to start over three times that from Steve.
Steve will say the same thing to you that I
said to my husband. That is like such an old
man complaint. Figure out the kiosks. You can do it,
you can do it.

Speaker 2 (01:39:15):
You can do it, Mandy.

Speaker 4 (01:39:18):
Taco bellt rolls their burritos with one end open and
one end clothes.

Speaker 2 (01:39:21):
You're eating from the wrong end. I know that. What
do you do?

Speaker 4 (01:39:25):
What do you do when you've got the one end
open that you're eating and all of a sudden the
bottom end flops open like your baby blew it?

Speaker 2 (01:39:33):
Stiper, Well, that's what I'm talking about.

Speaker 5 (01:39:36):
Better.

Speaker 6 (01:39:37):
Also, Santiago's wrap at least one of the ends, please.

Speaker 4 (01:39:41):
Yeah, I don't like the open end on both sides. WHOA,
that's actually pretty common in Mexico. Oh, even though Mexicans
can roll a burrito better than anybody else in the
entire world. You've watched those little Mexican ladies rolling burritos fast.

Speaker 2 (01:39:54):
It's like dang ladies.

Speaker 5 (01:39:55):
I am an extra.

Speaker 4 (01:39:57):
I'm pretty good unless I overstup and and it's just
not good. And now it's time for the most exciting
segment on the radio of its kind.

Speaker 5 (01:40:10):
Could he referred to American refre er flairs? Well done,
take friends.

Speaker 3 (01:40:14):
With that.

Speaker 2 (01:40:16):
Of the day. Well done, well done, Chad Bower. Okay,
what is our dad joke of the day? Please?

Speaker 5 (01:40:21):
Do I have an insult?

Speaker 4 (01:40:22):
First I did, but I closed the window and now
I can't find it again.

Speaker 5 (01:40:26):
Myness. Okay, Well, what do you call an old lady
wearing camo?

Speaker 4 (01:40:31):
An old lady wearing cam what old lady?

Speaker 5 (01:40:35):
Any old lady?

Speaker 4 (01:40:36):
Jacob, I'm wearing camos, so you don't see anyway? Go
ahead with gramouflage, Oh, grandma flage. I am going to
use that joke with my nephews the next time I
have on a camouflage shirt.

Speaker 5 (01:40:46):
You're welcome.

Speaker 4 (01:40:46):
Look it's gramouflage. I mean my grandson's today's.

Speaker 2 (01:40:51):
Word of the day. Please kerk what clerk ku dg e.

Speaker 5 (01:41:00):
I'm not familiar with that clue.

Speaker 4 (01:41:03):
It doesn't sound like it sounds like cudgel. So I mean,
is it something you used to hit people?

Speaker 6 (01:41:09):
No, it is a haphazard or makeshift solution to a problem,
and especially to a computer or programming problem.

Speaker 2 (01:41:17):
Why, I don't know. I don't know how to do that.

Speaker 4 (01:41:20):
Yeah, yeah, anyway, many been listening to you too long?

Speaker 2 (01:41:25):
Went woo right along with you on the drive through Weddings.

Speaker 4 (01:41:28):
Janay's trivia question us founding father John Adams believed Independence
Day should be celebrated on July second, not July fourth.

Speaker 2 (01:41:37):
Why is that? I know this answer without.

Speaker 5 (01:41:39):
Looking so somebody's birthday?

Speaker 2 (01:41:41):
Probably?

Speaker 4 (01:41:42):
No, the actual vote on the resolution took place on
July second. They didn't sign the document until July fourth,
So there you go.

Speaker 2 (01:41:51):
My granddaughter eats burritos. Starting in the middle.

Speaker 4 (01:41:54):
Sir or madam, you are raising a psychopath.

Speaker 2 (01:41:56):
Anyway. What's our jeopardy category?

Speaker 6 (01:41:59):
Well, first I must get the updated standings in because Chad.

Speaker 5 (01:42:03):
Is still at the top.

Speaker 6 (01:42:04):
But Mandy, you are seventy two and thirty four, also
known as your win percentage being sixty seven?

Speaker 2 (01:42:11):
Person, have you been waiting? Of course? Have you been
waiting to use that choke?

Speaker 3 (01:42:17):
No?

Speaker 5 (01:42:17):
I just got kak today.

Speaker 6 (01:42:18):
The category in the backyard out in the back backyard.
This type of fence named for its thin post.

Speaker 5 (01:42:29):
Trap, Chad, what is picket?

Speaker 2 (01:42:31):
Correct?

Speaker 6 (01:42:33):
This glass enclosed building for growing plants?

Speaker 2 (01:42:37):
Mandy, Mandy, Mandy? What's a greenhouse?

Speaker 5 (01:42:40):
Also correct?

Speaker 6 (01:42:41):
It has six letters, a roof and no walls or
maybe manny Tad?

Speaker 2 (01:42:47):
Mandy, what's a pa?

Speaker 5 (01:42:51):
Chad? What is a gazebo?

Speaker 2 (01:42:53):
Correct?

Speaker 5 (01:42:54):
Oh day, kids love to get on these.

Speaker 6 (01:42:58):
Fragg Nard painted a slightly older girl on one.

Speaker 5 (01:43:06):
Frag. That's what it says, fragg Anard.

Speaker 6 (01:43:11):
I don't know what is a swing?

Speaker 5 (01:43:14):
Swing?

Speaker 2 (01:43:14):
Dull?

Speaker 6 (01:43:15):
And finally, a small outbuilding for storing fuel.

Speaker 5 (01:43:19):
As a verb, it means to practice music. I didn't
know that last part. Anybody, anybody dueler, I have your idea?
What is wood shed? Yeah, Chad, listen.

Speaker 2 (01:43:34):
What practicing music is called a wood shed? What is that?

Speaker 5 (01:43:38):
That's what it said? Yeah, that's Nutty's I think.

Speaker 2 (01:43:41):
Congratulation.

Speaker 4 (01:43:43):
Yes, thank you, solid win, Chad, solid win. Congratulations. It
won't happen again anytime soon.

Speaker 2 (01:43:50):
Just letting you know.

Speaker 4 (01:43:51):
Tomorrow we have a baseball shortened show, but we're going
to talk to Drew Holden because he's got a great
piece on Doctor Anthony Fauci and the made nature of
so much of COVID. As doctor Anthony Fauci heads to
Capitol Hill in the morning to face off against Ran Paul.

Speaker 2 (01:44:07):
This is going to be a banner day.

Speaker 4 (01:44:09):
But in the meantime, we're going to send it over
to our friends KOA Sports. The guys are coming up next.
Keep it right here on KOA

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