July 29, 2026 • 53 mins
Mandy Connell is on a mission to hold those in power accountable for their actions, and today's episode is no exception. She's joined by Drew Holden, a journalist who's been digging into the COVID-19 pandemic and the role of Dr. Anthony Fauci in it. Together, they're discussing the media's handling of the pandemic and the lack of scrutiny given to Dr. Fauci's actions.
This episode is a must-listen for anyone who's been following the COVID-19 pandemic and its aftermath. Mandy and Drew dive into the world of Dr. Fauci's diary, which has been released, and the implications it has on our understanding of the pandemic. They also discuss the media's role in perpetuating misinformation and the consequences of their actions. From the origins of COVID-19 to the media's handling of Dr. Fauci's actions, this episode covers it all.
One of the key points of discussion is the media's failure to hold Dr. Fauci accountable for his actions, particularly when it comes to the origins of COVID-19. Mandy and Drew discuss how the media was quick to dismiss any theories that suggested the virus may have originated from a lab in Wuhan, China, instead of exploring the possibility. They also talk about the consequences of this lack of scrutiny, including the damage it caused to people's lives and the economy.
If you're interested in learning more about the COVID-19 pandemic and the role of Dr. Fauci in it, this episode is a must-listen. Mandy and Drew's conversation is informative, engaging, and thought-provoking, and it's a great starting point for anyone looking to understand the complexities of the pandemic.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:30):
I'm your host for the next one and a half hours,
Mandy Connell. That guy over there, Anthony Rodriguez, and together
we will be making our way up until a Rocky
spaseball game at one point thirty. They are playing the
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Speaker 2 (00:47):
Suck it, Stephan Tubbs.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Stephan is a huge Padres fan, and I don't know
if he's listening right.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Now, but suck it, Stephen Tubbs.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Anyway, they're going to start that game at one thirty,
and well they're going to start the pregame at one thirty.
And in the meantime, I have a giant blog and
a full report on the ridiculous, absolutely absurd.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
I plead, the fifth third I plead, the fifth I plead,
the fith I plead, the fifth I plead.
Speaker 5 (01:18):
The fifth wait wait, wait yait, I plead, the fifth.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Wait a minute, Anthony can I ask you a question?
Speaker 5 (01:24):
I plead the fifth.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
H that's gonna make working with you a lot harder.
Speaker 5 (01:29):
Yeah, I pleaded, I plead the fifth.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Let's talk about the blog by finding it at mandyblog
dot com. Mandyblog dot com. Okay, you remaining like five
people who are still going to Koa's website to find
the blog. You have until Friday to bookmark the page
because I'm done cross posting. The ease with which I
can do a blog on substack has made me extremely
(01:53):
bitter about the fifty fresh layers of hell that I
have to do on the iHeart platform to do a blog.
So yeah, Friday.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
It's it. It's over.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
We will not be cross posting anyway. You're gonna have
to go to mandyblog dot com anyway. Find the blog
on mandyblog dot com. Look for the headline that says
seven twenty nine twenty six I forgot to put the
word blog.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Well you hop Yeah, I've.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Already ruined my chances with a Nancy right now, seven
nine twenty six fuci on the hill today. Click on that,
and here are the headlines you will find within play.
Speaker 5 (02:26):
Man Nurse Eric All with ships and clipments a scene
that's going to pass flat.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Today on the blog Baseball Eats the Show at one
thirty late edition, Fauci took the fifth on Capitol Hill Today,
Drew Holden remembers the media love affair with Fauci. Can
the Broncos win the Super Bowl? Gun stores are breaking records,
crime and Aurora is down. Denver neighbors rat each other out.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
You do have a choice.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
In November, bidennw he kept classified materials. The Broncos new
facility is crazy nice. Maybe it is the avocado toast,
after all, how did they get like this? Are you
ready for a twenty two hour flight? Another actor? Maybe
a super creep snoop on the stoop and used for
racist joke. No Chinese robots for us, no crumble. Just
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know our national blood supply is very low. Kentucky Governor
McConnell must speak or step down. What's dumber than a
land acknowledgment. Kyle Clark begins the slow drip on Vic.
Remember when fracking was going to kill us? The lie
of city owned grocery store prices. Vic's afraid of debating
Phil some zippy history, one spoiled pop Seinfeld versus Palestinian protesters.
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Is Kevin going to leave himself at home? Those are
the headlines on the blog at Mandy Blog, Tic tech
toe on.
Speaker 6 (03:52):
The Avisive Council, I respectfully decline to answer, based upon
my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
Look, Nancy uh played the fifth Wow Wow?
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Well the wine Yogi retweeted something and tagged me in
and it was a funny joke at Nancy's expense. And
I let her know I cannot make fun of Nancy
as long as she has the power to decide how
well I've done reading the blog, So I will not
be making fun of Nancy today.
Speaker 5 (04:22):
She's I'm gonna be sucking up tochi. Oh man ah
got fauci.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
He did get fuchie.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Okay, so you guys, this morning I get up. I
already had the Heir DVR on my television on c Span,
already had it recorded and everything. But this morning I
got up and I was making myself coffee. I get
up at about five forty five. And I got up
at five forty five, Feed the dog, do that kind
of stuff. I'm making myself some coffee. And as I'm
making coffee, I was like this dude's gonna say a thing.
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He's not going to answer a single freaking question. He
is going to plead the fifth, even though he's already
been given a preemptive pardon by the auto pen and
he's not going to say anything. And so at six
point thirty when the hearing started, I listened to Ran
Paul make his opening comments. I listened to the Democrat
make his opening comments, and then we get to doctor
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Anthony Fauci and he takes the fifth and it was absurd.
It was so absurd the entire thing. First of all,
I don't expect much out of congressional hearings. My expectations
are so like if they were on the ground, they
would be even with the ground. They wouldn't even be
on top of the ground. They would be just like
(05:36):
flush with the ground. That's how low my expectations for
congressional hearings actually are. And yet I found myself getting
so angry, so incredibly angry, because Republicans were asking very
pointed questions, and they were asking very pointed questions about
(05:58):
doctor Fauci's trying to cover up the actual origin of COVID,
how he enriched himself. I didn't really know about that
until I read it in the Fauci Diaries.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Listen to this racket.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Doctor Anthony Fauci, the head of the National Institute of Health,
which gives out grants. That's an important part of this story.
Doctor Anthony Fauci got his colleagues who work at places
like Duke University. He got a guy at Duke University
to submit him for an award with a million dollar prize.
He gave the guy the materials so he could nominate
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doctor Fauci for an award that was worth a million
dollars to doctor Fauci. And then what do you think
that guy got in return? He got eight hundred thousand
dollars of our taxpayers for a grant. Now, isn't a
valid grant. I have no idea it could be. It
could be the most groundbreaking, you know, hypothesis that needs
to be ferreted out that's ever existed. I don't care
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because as soon as doctor Fauci does that, it becomes
in my mind quit pro quo. And aren't we supposed
to all think that quit pro quo is bad? One
of the things that I said. I said this a
couple of weeks ago, and some guy brought me an email,
really taking me to task in a very kind way.
He was really taking me to task though, because I said,
at least President Trump and his family are grifting in
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the open, we can see exactly what exactly the grift is.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Like, there's no hidden grift.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
It's all just like, here we go, we're gonna grift
this thing as much as we can. I love that
this is a completely different kind of grift.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
This is the kind of grift.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
At the same time, this man in his by the way,
they keep calling it Fauci's diary, and I you know, honestly,
in my mind, I kind of had already gotten a
picture of like one of those fur covered diaries with
the little lock and the little key that you get
a seven year old girl. And he probably had a
pen with a big pew on the end. There's a
fluffy like poof there you go. That's what I envisioned
(08:03):
doctor Anthony Fauci writing this diary.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
But that's not it at all.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
He kept a contemporaneous journal of events on his government computer. Now, Anthony,
I realized that I'm not supposed to ask you any
questions because you're gonna respond.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
With the fifth.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
But in iHeart, when you do something on an iHeart computer,
what does that mean in terms of who can see it?
Speaker 4 (08:28):
Well, typically you got to go in and then you
on the divisive council.
Speaker 6 (08:31):
I respect for the decline to answer based upon my
rights under the Fifth Amendment of the Constitution.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
It's going to be a long hour and a half
with that. No, I actually just did the ethics training
again again. By the way, a rod, when you go
to do the ethics training.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
You can totally hit the fast forward button, just hit
the you can just hit the next button.
Speaker 5 (08:53):
Just do it.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Just make sure you do the same little scenarios that
they've had in there for the last ten years. I'm
sure you'll remember the answers. In any case, it is
a government computer. He is a government employee. That means
it is available to look and get a Freedom of
Information Act request, just as people did. And now they're
(09:16):
releasing it. And he brags about the fact that he
got Mayor Bildeblasio to close schools and he said he
was gonna do it anyway from seeing me on TV.
But I really talked him into it. But then the
same doctor Fauci is the one that's.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Like, I, I didn't what shutdowns? You're trying to blame
that on me? What?
Speaker 1 (09:38):
What was the best this morning was I went and
looked at the media accounts of the media members like
Jake Tapper, who doctor Fauchi bragged in his diary about
becoming friends with.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Oh we had dinner with Jake and his wife. Oh
we're friends. We're friends.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
He texts me after I'm on TV to tell me
what a great job I've done.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Ah.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
This is so incredibly frustrating because it's so incredibly important.
It's important that we know what went wrong. It's important
that we do a deep dive and really investigate the
horrible decision making that occurred at the CDC when it
came to COVID, the nonsense that they inflicted on us.
(10:24):
You guys, they let elderly people with dementia die alone.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Do not let them off the hook.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
I got a comment from Tony and if you are ever,
if you're a reader of the blog or my Facebook page,
Tony is a regular force there. He is very liberal,
and Tony had this The faucibs is a total snore fest.
He's right to claim the fifth as truly idiotic. Republicans
like Mace and Paul expose their basic lack of science
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once again.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
What he may not know is that ramp Paul is
actually a doctor.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
He does eye surgeries in third world countries for people
who have cataracts on the side for free. So yeah,
he's kind of got a better handle than you might think. Anyway,
he continues, Paul's daddy bought him his doctorate, and it
shows he went to medical school. Why should Fauci answer
crap that has no purpose except trying to set a
perjury trap and get him charged. So he has to
(11:23):
spend thousands of dollars to defend against a DJ who
tried to prosecute someone for seashell arrangements. I'm sorry, Tony,
did you miss the Biden administration? Did you miss the
grandmother who was prosecuted for walking through the open doors
of the Capitol on January sixth, saying a prayer and
then walking out again.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Do not try and claim some kind of moral high ground.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Give me a break, Give me a break, good lord.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Anyway.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
So I am just, I am thoroughly disgusted, Just disgusted
because there are real questions that need to be answered
in a significant way. There need to be guardrails put
on the process before we allow one stupid, little, mealy
mouthed Italian doctor to shut down everything in the world,
damaged children permanently, and almost completely destroy our economy.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
I'm not gonna forgive these people.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
I'm not gonna forget my favorite restaurant closed down during COVID.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
And I know what you're thinking, Oh, that all big deal.
It's one restaurant.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
But the owner of that restaurant, the loan that he
had gotten was attached to his house. So not only
did he lose his restaurant, he lost his home. I
am not letting these people off the hook. And doctor
Anthony Fauci was a self aggrandizing piece of garbage instead
(12:52):
of an esteemed scientist. Remember when this pompous a hole
stood up with I am the science, no or not,
you're a liar. One of the things we learned from
Anthony Fauci's diaries is that he learned in January of
twenty twenty that there was no basis for the quote
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wet market. He knew it came from a lab. He
absolutely knew it came from a lab, and he lied
about it because he wasn't supposed to be doing gain
a function, he wasn't supposed to be funding gain a function,
and he was doing all of those things and at
the same time he was covering up this lie. All
of a sudden, everyone in the media, and by the way,
(13:34):
Drew Holden is joining us at one o'clock. Drew's written
a fantastic column about the complete abject failure of people
in the media to do anything that they should have
been doing, which is ask a lot more questions instead
of sucking up and sending nice text messages.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Tony, you crushed it. You're so great.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
This story is one thing, the one thing that I
actually will use this story for a very long time.
I when I do speaking engagements occasionally people will ask
me things like, hey, where do you think things really
went wrong? You know, where do you think things really
went off the rails? And I always tell them there
are two things that are inherently corrupting, and I think
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you have to be a person of extremely good and
strong character before you achieve either of these things for
them not to corrupt you. One of them is power
and the other one is fame. Both of those things
will rot your soul. If you are not a person
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of good character and strong morality. And I don't think
anybody's going to argue that most of these clowns in
DC are people of good character and strong morality. So
here you have doctor Anthony Fauci, who's pretty much labored along,
toiled along in anonymity for all these years, making a
ton of money, but nobody really knew who he was,
and all of a sudden, Jake Tapper is sending him
(15:07):
messages about how great he did on television. Oh MG,
it absolutely went to his head, absolutely corrupted him. And
we the American people, the American children, elderly people who
were left to die alone when they didn't understand why,
people who were arrested for paddle boarding. Do you remember
(15:29):
the guy in the ocean in California who was arrested.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
They sent the coastguard to get him out of the
water where he.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Was completely alone, to arrest him for being outside during COVID.
Do not do not forget what they did to this country.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Do not let them off the hook.
Speaker 7 (15:52):
Now.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
I don't know what happens next. I really don't, because
you can't charge anything Anthony Fauci for any of the
stuff he did because Joe, by his auto pen gave
him a pardon. So what happens now? Is there a
way to strip him of his like nine hundred thousand
dollars a year retirement.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
I'd be fine with that. I mean, god, he's made
a lot of money anyway. He doesn't need to be
he doesn't need it. It's fine, it's fine.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Super super frustrating, super incredibly like slam my head against
the desk kind of frustrating, because what about all the
unanswered questions?
Speaker 2 (16:31):
How was one man? Or he and Deborah Burks. Here's
what I would do.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
I'm just gonna let you know how vindictive I can be,
Like don't I don't want to say, don't cross me.
I'm just saying, don't cross me. Because what I would
do is I would bring in Deborah Burks. I would
charge her. I don't know if any of it was
her fault, but I bet you Debora Burks will tell
you exactly what happened with doctor Anthony Fauci in this
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cover up. I bet she, if she's facing chargers, she
would be happy to tell you the full story of
what happened behind the scenes.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Charge everybody who didn't get a pardon. That's what I
would do.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Charge everybody, just like they charged everybody on January sixth,
regardless of whether or not they were just in an
open room through an open door.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Now charge everybody.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Everybody that had anything to do with COVID decision making
needs to face some kind of charges, and.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Then we'll call it today. That's why I'm not.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
A politician, because that's how I I would just go
scort stove. By the way, somebody on X this morning
was I was going back and forth with and they said,
they said, as soon as doctor Falci took the fifth
Rampaul should have started reading his diary entries.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Could you imagine that would have been epic, so good,
so incredibly good.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
So it was a waste of three hours and nothing happened.
So it was basically a typical typical day for Congress.
Nothing happened. Nothing is significance. I will tell you this,
I've made a conscious decision. Like Josh Holly, he put
on a show, and he put on a show for
social media, and you're gonna see it everywhere. I'm not
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going to play any of that stuff because once doctor
Fauci said, I what did he say?
Speaker 2 (18:16):
I'm sorry, I forgotten Arod.
Speaker 6 (18:17):
What did he say again on the advisive counsel, I
respectful the decline to answer based upon my rights under
the Fifth Amendment of the Constitution.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Mm hm. As soon as he said that, everything else
was just nonsense and foo for all. What was really
gross to me was the way that democrats. I you know,
here's the thing in these partisan hearings. One side is like,
you're the worst person ever. The other side's like, oh
my gosh, you love puppies and kittens, don't you.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
It's so stupid.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
But dear Democrat after Democrat after Democrat who still ask
nominees for Trump's cabinet if they believe that Joe Biden
won the twenty twenty election, to hear them say things
like this backward looking committee hearing, Why are we spending
time when we have other things that are pressing right now?
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Why are we looking back? I wanted to punch every
single one of them in the face. Like I didn't
because I'm not a violent person, but man, I wanted to.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
When we get.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Back, this is gonna shift gears on you. I have
a question that came up today has to do with
your underwear. I'll explain after this. We've got Drew Holden
coming up. Next, we're gonna do a quick review, not next,
excuse me.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
At one o'clock.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
We're gonna do a quick review of the fawning coverage
by the mainstream media about COVID that was so disgusting.
And when you go back, you really should look at
Drew's post because he gathered up a bunch of posts
on X with these headlines.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
OMG, you guys just so bad.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Someone wanted to know why I pointed out the Italian
doctor Anthony Fauci, which is a fair question. This morning,
as I was angry as you can tell, someone just
told me my anger was unbec I said, your lack
of anger is unbecoming. If you're not mad about this,
what kind of person are you? Why does this not
infuriate you? I just don't know. Anyway, I have a question.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
I've packed.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Oh, by the way, the Italian thing. I saw a
post on X that said doctor Anthony feltch She's one
of the most important Italian Americans ever, and I was like, oh, yeah, okay,
Like we're not supposed to attack him because he's Italian.
I don't think so. If I were Italian, I'd be
embarrassed anyway. So we're going on vacation Friday. My short
timers hasn't really kicked in that much yet, but Chuck
(20:37):
is an early packer, meaning like a week before and
we've had house guests on and off for three weeks,
and some of them were coming back. They've been driving
around the Western United States. Some of them were coming back.
So we kind of had to get it done a
little ahead of times. So last weekend we all packed
like I'm packed for Alaska, just after a few and
a throw, like throwing a few last minute things, and
I'm ready to go. That being said, it has led
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me to a situation where I am left with only
what I call the B team of my underwear drawer.
The A team is packed for Alaska, and now I
got the B team drawers.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
And I don't even know why I have these underwear
in my drawer.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
But then I was talking to my trainer about this,
she goes, Oh, yeah, I totally do that too.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
You got a you got a team underwear.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Those are your go tos, These are the you're my studies,
you're not there every days. And then you've got the
everything else is in the laundry. So I got my
B Team underwear and I'm stuck with my B team underwear.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
You have this, do you not? Anthony?
Speaker 4 (21:35):
I'd like to say that this is TMI and I disagree,
but I one thousand percent everyone.
Speaker 5 (21:41):
My initial thought was I don't need to Yeah, I
know I do.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
I'm going to tell you what kind of underwear they were.
Speaker 5 (21:47):
I mean doing that.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
I'm one hundred percent with you, and it doesn't feel right,
and I feel like you are going to notice, and
I feel like you need to get your drawers in order.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Well, I do have one good pair of lefl for
the flight on Friday, because you can't fly an uncomfortable underwear.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
You just can't do it.
Speaker 5 (22:04):
Wait, have we discussed did you already say you do
or do not? Do your laundry on a cruise ship.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
I do halfway through because they always offer a deal.
They offer a deal halfway through.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
They they give you a full big bag twenty nine
ninety nine whatever. It's a seven day cruise, but we're
gonna be gone for like nine days.
Speaker 5 (22:21):
Total, anything seven or less.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Bring enough clothes, No, I bring I bring enough underwear
and socks for the entire trip, like, I am not
gonna get caught without underwearing socks. I could rewar a shirt,
you know, pants whatever, No big deal caught?
Speaker 2 (22:34):
What was that?
Speaker 5 (22:35):
And why do you need to do any laundry?
Speaker 1 (22:37):
We usually do it just so we don't have as
much laundry to get done at home, and they usually
give us a great deal because of our cabin class.
Speaker 4 (22:44):
So I challenge you to not do laundry and just
enjoy yourself and have no chores to do.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
No no, no, no no no no no no. You think
I'm doing laundry, No no no. I give it to the steward.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
How it works and it comes back clean.
Speaker 5 (22:58):
I'm aware how that works.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
And therefore boy to being Baba boom.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
But just one last thing, to just bring enough clothes,
I know. We also don't want to pack too much,
et cetera, et cetera. Mandy sightseeing or fishing in Alaska?
I am not going fishing this time. The last two
times we've gone, we've gone fishing, but we're not going
this time because we're going with our kids and our
grandkids and we're doing a cruise.
Speaker 5 (23:17):
Are you glacier?
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Can'tnot wait? Of course?
Speaker 5 (23:20):
Of course, yeah, we're planning ours for next year. We
are doing all the things.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Underwear, and you aren't even trying to get lucky, says
this texter.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Ah, Mandy, stay angry. You're saying what the reasonable people
are thinking.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Thank you, Mandy.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
If you have an A team and B team underwear,
it means that you don't own enough underwear. But I
do like I own enough underwear to get me through
a ten day vacation.
Speaker 5 (23:41):
Everyone has their favorite pairs, That's.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
What I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
And now all my A teams are already packed, So
now I got B team, So if I look uncomfortable
for the next few days, that's why I got the
wrong ones. Mandy, you should pack the B team underwear
instead and then throw it away as you go so
you don't have to pack our laundry home.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
I will tell you that there are a couple pairs.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
That I have put on from the B team in
the past couple of days that got immediately taken off
and thrown away.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
I was like, I don't even know why I have these.
I'm never gonna wear these.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
You get to a point in life where you also
just start to throw away. That's everything that's not a
team and just buy more a team.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Well, the problem is is that my AA team, like
the top notch, my go to you know, ride or
they don't make them anymore.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
They don't make those kind anymore.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
And when I saw that they were no longer regularly displayed,
I bought all of them that I could find. This
was like six years ago, So I am you know,
I'm like in a precarious place right now where I
can't replace the old ones because.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
They don't make them anymore. So why do they change underwear?
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Why in the world would anybody who makes underwear go,
you know what, we need to screw all the people
who really love that particular pair of underwear by never
making them again and only making things that are really
uncomfortable in that they hate.
Speaker 5 (24:56):
Didn't you know the laws of life?
Speaker 4 (24:58):
They change everything that you love dearly of course, Like
I have my favorite pair of joggers that are by
the same company, and I've bought them over the course
of like three different times in my life, and all
three or even though they're the same exact they're all
somehow different.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
I will say, one of my favorite clothing brands, I
bought a newer pair of the same shorts I've had
from them multiple times.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
These shorts are crap.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
They are absolute garbage, and I send them back and
I send them back and when I filled out my
return online, they were like, oh reason for return, I'm like,
whatever you guys did to cut costs, to keep the
costs low. Yes, you have destroyed these shorts that I've
been wearing for ten years, and I don't want them anymore.
Speaker 5 (25:35):
The fit changes, the material changes, just not for me.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
It's also the zippers and the buttons, like the finishes
on it.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
They try to go cheap, and then it sucks Mandy.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
I save old dundays and when I go on a
long trip they go but one way only. I don't
need to throw them away. I just need to get
through the next couple of days. To the texter who said,
who in the hell where's underwear anymore? Me, I'm just
not one of those people that's ever gonna be comfortable.
You know why, Because what if I get into an accident?
Isn't that what your mom always told you when you
were young, put on clean underwear, what if you get
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into an accident.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
It didn't occur to me until much much later.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
To ask if I'm in an accident, is that really
my biggest concern? If I am in such a bad
accident they are taking me to the hospital.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Do I really think the.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Hospital staff at the emergency room are gonna go, oh,
did you see her underwear?
Speaker 2 (26:27):
I don't think so, Mandy. Would you say your panties
are in a bunch the VT underwear? For sure? For sure?
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Mandy just got commando n not gonna do it, no way,
rosh and this Eanxer says, Mandy, as long as you
don't need medical attention, you'll.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Be fine, Mandy or a rod.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Don't you hang on to shirts or some piece of
clothing from years back that may be very worn out,
but still keep it for the memory, even if your
spouse wants you to throw it out. I am not sentimental,
but my husband, I'm gonna throw him under the bus
a little bit. Has t shirts from like decades ago
that haven't fit him for decades. So yeah, I understand that.
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I just disagree with that strategy. Just throwing that out there.
By the way, I told my daughter that I was
going to talk about this on the show, and she said,
that's not neurotypical. Mom, Well, Hey, it's my show about
your drip. Oh that's right, I gotta work on my drip.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
I ate that topic.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
We're going to be right back. Keep it on, Koa Mandy.
America bought Colorado and much of the West from France.
Why do we need a land acknowledgment? Oh, thank you
text for asking me a question about something else on
the blog today. Just when you thought the Denver City
Council couldn't get dumber, they were like, hold my beer.
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The Denver City Council is actually considering and it's like
a serious thing. They're really they're really gonna do this.
Denversity Council would start meetings with a statement recognizing the
forced labor of enslaved Africans and their descendants.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Under a new.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
Proposal, The proposed labor acknowledgment is forcing Denver's elected officials
into a public debate over how governments should reckon with
one of the country's original sins, and whether statements are enough.
Speaker 6 (28:35):
With this.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
You guys, No, I'm sorry the TEXTU who said know
whether Wednesday Dave's out of town?
Speaker 2 (28:40):
I should have mentioned that. Sorry about that.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Every time the Denversity Council opens its mouth, it just
like honestly, like the dumbest stuff comes out, and I just.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
I can't.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
Now if you're as much of a fan of land
acknowledgments as I am, those things like we would like
to acknowledge that the land that the KOA transmitter is
on belonged to some random Indian tribe, like a really
long time ago before another Indian tribe murdered them all
and took it over, Like I that's my land acknowledgement.
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That's that's what my That's why they don't let me
do them. They're like, Mandy, no, you don't get to
do the land acknowledgments.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
This is just as dumb. What what is the point
there's Oh no, I know the point. I know the point.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
The point is so that the people on the Denver
City Council can sit there in their whiteness and they
can say, we acknowledge that the government has used the
forced slave labor, and that we acknowledge that we're acknowledging,
we acknowledge, we're the best acknowledgers.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Look at us acknowledge. The only reason.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
They're doing it is so that they can feel morally
superior to their other peer cities where they do.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Not acknowledge the things? Why are they not acknowledging the things?
Let's acknowledge away.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
Whenever I hear a land acknowledgement, I am and I've
only been in two situations in the last two years
where I was at an event people were speaking. I
knew it was going to be a certain kind of
event when the person speaking got up and was like, Hi,
my name is SO and So.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
I use they them protalent.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
I'm like, ah, but whenever they get to the park,
we would like to acknowledge that this land actually belonged
to blah blah blah, this Indian tribe, whatever.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
I just want to stand up and say give it back, then.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Give it back, because if you know it's on stolen ground,
and yet you continue to stay on that stolen ground,
doesn't that make you worse than the people who initially
stole it. I'm just throwing that out there. Anyway, Hey,
if you want to buy a gun, you better do
it in the next day. Gun stores are seeing a
huge run because starting Saturday, a whole new bunch of
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rules kick in. I'm calling them the gun poll taxes,
because now Colorado Democrats have made buying a weapon so
miserable that you're not gonna want to do it, and
that was the absolute design.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Now, you guys, there are some.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Cases right now going up through the Ninth Circuit Court
of Appeals, the Fourth Circuit, the Tenth Circuit that are
they're essentially throwing out magazine bands, They're throwing out assault
weapon bans, and surely they're gonna start throwing out stuff
like this. I'm assuming that they're actually I know it's
already being litigated, but yeah, starting Saturday, buying a gun
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in Colorado is now fifty fresh layers of hell.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Mandy.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
You have to acknowledge that Colorado was built primarily by
a long history of African slave labor.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
No, it wasn't. Were their slaves in Colorado.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
Absolutely Did our economy depend on slaves in Colorado?
Speaker 2 (31:57):
Absolutely not.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
And where there are states in the South where the
economy was absolutely dependent on slave labor one hundred percent,
Colorado is not one of them. A place can have slaves,
And the word primarily is completely wrong in Colorado, completely wrong.
And I'm no like, I'm no super Colorado historian, but
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I have looked things up here, and yes, we have
had some situations the sand Creek mass are absolutely terrible.
We've had a very robust branch of the KKK in
Colorado many many moons ago. We have had our issues,
but primarily built by a long history of African slave labor. No,
that is simply inaccurate. It's wrong, Mandy, not stolen, conquered. See,
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I was making fun of the land acknowledgment people.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
That's I mean that I was. But you're right, Texter,
you're right. When we get back, Drew Holten is going
to join us.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
He has done a spectacular column on his substack about
we're gonna go back in time and we're gonna reflect
on exactly how the media treated doctor Anthony Fauci. And
I'll give you the rest of the story about following
these news media luminaries today on x as they ignored
Fauci on Capitol Hill.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
We'll do that next. Keep it on KOA.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
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Speaker 5 (33:25):
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Speaker 2 (33:38):
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Speaker 1 (33:47):
Welcome, Welcome, Welcome to the second and final hour of
the show today. We get eight by Baseball at one thirty.
But in the meantime I have a fantastic guest coming
up next. We just we're angry together off the air,
so we're going to be angry on the air. But
I have to clarify something I was wrong. If you
wanted to buy a long gun or any of the
guns now on the special Democrats Hate Them list in Colorado,
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you've missed your window to avoid the incredibly onerous new
gun poll taxes that go into effect on August first,
because they go in to effect when you pick up
the gun, and with our already ridiculous three day waiting period,
you have now missed the window, and buying a gun
in Colorado just got a whole lot harder. We'll talk
more about that later when angry people figure out exactly
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how bad it is.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
But here to another angry person.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Who buy his own account is the guy who tries
to kind of you do, keep it together, chill out,
It's gonna be fine. That's Drew Holden from the outstanding
sub Stack Holden, Court and Drew, welcome back to the show.
Speaker 7 (34:49):
First of all, Mandy, that's my pleasure. Thanks so much
for having me.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
So you have what turned out to be one of
the best columns of the week about doctor Anthony Fauci,
because you went back in time to remind us of
a few things, and you specifically honed in on the
and I've called it medium malpractice. What happened during COVID
was nothing short of an abdication of the responsibility of journalism.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
By many, many, many, many media outlets.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
They took whatever the government told them and just regurgitated
it without question. They called people who dared to question
the government line conspiracy theorists.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
We were going to murder our grandmothers. There was so
much disdain.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
Talking heads on news outlets said that if people didn't
get a vaccination, they shouldn't get medical care. I mean,
it was nuts, and you gathered up a bunch of
it in one column, And for that I am.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
Grateful my pleasure.
Speaker 8 (35:45):
I won't say I was happy to do it right,
because my blood pressure has definitely not forgiven me for
just the level of anger and frustration.
Speaker 7 (35:53):
I think I have had for these last couple of days.
But I think it's necessary.
Speaker 8 (35:57):
I think it's important, and I talked about the all
the time, but I feel we're starting to forget just
how bad some of this stuff was.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Well, some people have, and I've been reminding my audience.
In the first hour, they let older people with dementia
die alone. They shut down church services, They arrested a
guy who was paddleboarding by himself.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
They shut down schools in what we still don't know
the kind.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
Of damage that that did to the children who were
out of that environment for two years. I mean, the
list of atrocities that were committed in the name of
protecting the citizenry is way too long for my taste.
Speaker 7 (36:36):
Yes, I could not agree more.
Speaker 8 (36:37):
I did you know it took me six parts of
a substack series, each of them like fifteen hundred to
three thousand words to even try and scratch and surface
on it. I mean, it is unthinkable the damage we
already know, right, It is almost impossible to comprehend just
how much damage has been done to people, to kids,
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to families, to our social fabric.
Speaker 7 (37:00):
And we're only six years on.
Speaker 8 (37:01):
We're only going to learn more from here, and I
think that should fill everyone with a real sense of dread.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
Not to mention, I got to tell you, like I
have always thought of the United States of America as
a land full of people who were capable and strong
and not easily scared. You know, going back to that
Japanese comment after the bombing of Pearl Harbor, you know,
there's a gun behind every blade of grass. We were
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the tough guys, and man, we all not only accepted
totalitarianism on a dime, many many, many people became totalitarians themselves.
But I want to talk specifically. I don't want to
let the time go away and the Rockies are going
to eat us here in a little bit. I want
to make sure we know what happened with the media
in this entire process, because the media at its finest
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is consistently asking the questions to hold power to account,
regardless of party regards, listen, whatever, that when the media
is doing its job the best, that is what they
are doing.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
And oh crap, they didn't do any of it this time.
Speaker 8 (38:08):
Yeah, yeah, I mean I think we lose sight of
it sometimes because the media is such a punching bag
and such a talking point on you know, particularly for conservatives.
Speaker 7 (38:16):
But these folks are constitutionally protected.
Speaker 8 (38:18):
They have all sorts of special legal harvouts and allowances
in order to bring the American people, the news that matters,
and in order to hold government and other powerful actors
to account for their misbehavior, for the appearance of their misbehavior,
for all sorts of things that matter.
Speaker 3 (38:34):
Right.
Speaker 8 (38:35):
And yet for many years during COVID, that switch that
defenders of democracy, that protectors of ordinary that you know,
afflicting the comfortable and comforting the afflicted, all of that
put to the side in order to push a narrative
about that Doctor Anthony Fauci wanted people to believe about
all things COVID. And I think to me, you know,
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there's all sorts of bad things about the lockdown about
I've seen that that we need to get to the
bottom up.
Speaker 7 (39:01):
But so much of it is about the origins. It's
about how COVID came to be.
Speaker 8 (39:07):
It's about how millions of people around the world died
from a disease.
Speaker 7 (39:11):
And it's about whether or not all of that could
have come from a lab in Wuhan, China, and whether or.
Speaker 8 (39:19):
Not your taxpayer dollars could have helped not only fund
the lab but make what became COVID more dangerous, more transmissible.
And that, to me, it should have been the defining
media story of twenty twenty or twenty twenty one, and
instead the media fought tooth and nail to bury it.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
I will say that when I look back now and
a textter just sent this, in hindsight is always twenty twenty.
The public health officials did the very best they could
with the information they had in hand. I wonder if
you'll ever get tired about this topic. But the fact
is they didn't. We now know that in January of
twenty twenty, according to doctor Anthony foul She's own personal
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government created on his government equipment diary, that he knew
that the wet market lie was a lie.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
He knew it was not likely.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
That they already understood at that point that that was
an unlikely story. How many resources were diverted to cover
that story up. How many scientists that should have been
looking at other things we're spending time trying to figure
out a way to make it about the wet market
because doctor Anthony Fauci asked them to. He didn't want
it to come out because then he would have had
to answer questions that you just laid out, are we
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funding gain a function research? Did we help create a
virus that then escape from a.
Speaker 7 (40:37):
Lab and it's not even just Fauci's diary too many.
Speaker 8 (40:41):
I think this is the other point that gets lost
a little bit in the multi year kind of retrospective
on all of this stuff.
Speaker 7 (40:47):
There was an.
Speaker 8 (40:48):
Active debate online in medical communities, in scientific research communities
in twenty twenty about what the origins of COVID were,
and the media and Twitter and Facebook took their thumb
and pressed it heavily on the scale to say, Nope, sorry,
that entire side of this conversation. We are not going
to allow you to communicate in our direct messages on
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Twitter about we will not allow you to post, we
will not allow you to talk about it. And the
legacy media had a feedback loop with these social media
companies to say this is a conspiracy theory. And then
the companies took that and said, oh, it's a conspiracy theory.
We won't allow people to send it across our platforms.
We're going to cut back on misinformation and disinformation, which
fed into a feedback loop, and then the media is reporting, well,
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look what the social media companies are doing. They recognize
this as a conspiracy theory to everyone but Donald Trump
and conservatives and Tom Cotton understand that this is a
conspiracy theory, and by wrapping that bow around this very plausible,
very colorable, very potential idea, I think they crushed the
search for truth about whether or not it was the case.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
But I think they were willing participants in crushing the
truth and a case information.
Speaker 2 (41:57):
So here we have Joe.
Speaker 1 (41:59):
Biden bumbling around like mister magoo for four flipping years
when he's president, and the mainstream media is like, dude, he's.
Speaker 2 (42:07):
Awesome, look at how virile he is.
Speaker 1 (42:09):
But now every time Trump gets a bruise, it's like,
oh my god, look how elderly he is. It is
hand can say he closes his eyes during a three
hour funeral. They're like he's dying, and I'm just like,
shut up.
Speaker 2 (42:22):
And I think that's what happened.
Speaker 1 (42:24):
They were very willing to just step back and show
no intellectual curiosity. That's the birth that gets me, because
these are not necessarily stupid people.
Speaker 8 (42:33):
Yeah right, And I think that's the thing that really
kills me, Mandy, is that, like, I don't believe. I know,
there are a lot of people say, well, they did
this deliberately to cover up for China, to cover up
for Biden or to cover up price or whatever. I
actually don't think that that's the case. Like I actually
think the media is so gullible when it comes to
an expert that they respect and in some cases revere,
saying something that they forget how to do their jobs.
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They forget what the merits of journalism actually look like,
and they are willing to set to the side when
it confirms so conveniently and so naturally to their narrative.
Speaker 1 (43:05):
I'm talking to Drew Holden. He's got a great substack
called Holden Court. If you are already a subscriber in
Mind at Mandy blog dot com, you can go ahead
and zip on over to Holden Court and subscribe over there.
You know, the point is is about the expert class.
There is a a characteristic of the left, and that
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is they love experts. Like they always think if you
are credentialed, degreed, the more degrees you have, the more
they're going to give you credence. And so when you
put doctor Fauci up, there's a he's a scientist, he's
a doctor, they immediately just like, oh, yes, we have
to listen to him. But even then it's only as
long as they feel like it's on their side because
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the same doctors on the right who said, you know,
you look at the way that the media treated the
Brownstone Institute. They were a group of doctors who consistently
posted information that turned out to all be true, right,
I mean, they were right about everything, but they were.
Speaker 2 (44:03):
Treated as parias.
Speaker 1 (44:04):
They were the wrong kind of credentialed official because they
didn't tow the company line.
Speaker 2 (44:08):
So for me, it feels even more nefarious.
Speaker 1 (44:10):
It's like, just because they're telling you what you want
to hear, you've dropped any pretense of journalistic integrity and
digging in to find out if it's actually true.
Speaker 7 (44:20):
Yeah, I think that's exactly what we still happen.
Speaker 8 (44:22):
And I think it's you know, you think about kind
of like the I talk a lot about the blinkered
media right where you have these newsrooms of people, all
of whom most of whom have master's degrees that cost
a whole lot of money, and they respect all of
the types of people who went to the same types
of institution that they did, yeap, who are saying the
same things as them. It's almost like a culture thing,
more so in some cases than there's an educational thing,
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and I think they latched onto this narrative that Fauci
and I think got so much of it, As so
many stories.
Speaker 7 (44:51):
Do these days, So much of it came down to Trump, right.
Speaker 3 (44:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (44:54):
The issue was that Fauchi wasn't just a doctor, he
wasn't just the AIDS hero or whatever.
Speaker 7 (44:59):
He wasn't just the one leading us through COVID. It
was that he was doing the right thing and Trump
was doing the wrong thing.
Speaker 2 (45:04):
He was trying to lead that monkey down the right road.
Speaker 8 (45:06):
Yeah, yeah, exactly exactly, And so the idea that he
could be one wrong, I think just simply did not
occur to the media to investigate. Two More importantly, the
idea that he could have nefarious motives, right like trying
to prevent media from digging.
Speaker 7 (45:23):
Into his ties to a lab and Ruhan.
Speaker 8 (45:26):
Doing breaking research into bat coronaviruses. That's only a few
miles when we first our cases of the wet market.
The idea that any of that could be could be
part of the could be part of his calculus. The
media was just unbelievably resistant to look at. And I
think that's a byproduct of not having anyone who doesn't
think just like the standard operator at the New York
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Times thinks about the way the world works well.
Speaker 1 (45:48):
And then they became we now know from Fauci's diaries,
and somebody asked on the text line, I may have
missed it, but how did Alchi Fauci's diaries come to light?
They were written on a government computer and somebody foid
them and uh.
Speaker 2 (46:03):
And Ran Paul has an entire website so you can
go and read them all. They read like a like
a middle school girl.
Speaker 1 (46:10):
I made this point earlier that in his diary he
talks about becoming friends with Jake Tapper. So you have
people and I, as a talk show host, I am
friendly with politicians, but I would never be a friend
to a politician because I think it compromises my ability
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to criticize when they need to be criticized. I may
like them, I may think they're really cool, and if
they were out of office, maybe we'd be pals. But
these journalists put no such barricades up. They sucked up
to him, they told, you know, texting him after a
TV performance to tell him how great he did. I
think there's another factor here that is probably just as important,
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and that is doctor Fauci, this little nerd scientist that
nobody ever paid attention for, all of a sudden and
this is one of the headlines you put on your
column today. There's a petition to make doctor Anthony Fauci
People Magazine Sexiest Nana Alive. That is intoxicating, That is corrupting,
That that entire, that entire fame wave.
Speaker 2 (47:14):
For somebody like him, is you don't want to give
that up once you have it.
Speaker 7 (47:21):
I think that's exactly right.
Speaker 8 (47:22):
And I think you know, he at a moment of difficulty,
of the moment of crisis in our country, he became
just this towering presence across intellect apparently you know, sexiness
factors and all sort of and like that the leading
political thinker, the leading medical thinker, the leading kind of
therapist and comforter.
Speaker 2 (47:44):
Science drew the science.
Speaker 7 (47:47):
Yeah, and I think you're right.
Speaker 8 (47:48):
I think that is like, we don't elevate people to
that role in a in a republic because it is
very dangerous to do so, because there's no way it
doesn't go to their head in a way that is
incredibly destructive to everything else around them.
Speaker 2 (48:00):
So after reading your column I read it yesterday and
after I read it. So today this.
Speaker 1 (48:05):
Morning, as the hearing is going on, I'm trolling X
to see what all of these journalists have to say
about these proceedings.
Speaker 2 (48:14):
Let's just say it was quiet, Drue, it was quiet
on the home front.
Speaker 1 (48:17):
Jake Tapper, who apparently he and Anthony Falgie their pals.
They hang out, they go to dinner, didn't have a
single thought about the hearings while they were going on,
not a single one. He did give us a list
of Sylvester Saloon movies in case you wanted that. So
that's on Jake's saying, I haven't looked recently. He may
have posted something else, but even now there's this eye
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roll of Oh here we go again, Oh here, we'll
have to cover this again, the crazy right wingers. Here's
the thing about Senator ran Paul. Senator ran Paul has
been entirely consistent this entire time, and yet now he
has enough evidence to prove that he is right. Who
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among us would not have done what he did today?
Who among us would not have been just taken the
lap and said I'm gonna make you admit that you
were wrong and I was right, and I'm actually here
for it.
Speaker 8 (49:12):
Yeah, and also to hopefully be able to actually hold
doctor Fauci accountable.
Speaker 7 (49:16):
Right. I think the other important.
Speaker 8 (49:18):
Reason for having this hearing, for hauling Fauci's but in
front of all that, like in front of the US
government and putting Himo the question, is that it's an
untested legal theory about whether or not you can challenge
Biden's outgoing pardon for doctor Fauci.
Speaker 2 (49:34):
Well, the autopen pidon pardon.
Speaker 7 (49:36):
Yeah, right, right, right, thank you, the autopen, the autopen pardon.
Speaker 8 (49:40):
But by by forcing him back in from the committee,
by forcing this back in the public eye, I think
it helps gather evidence and energy and steam behind doing
something to hold Fauci accountable. And I think, you know what,
Tapper's not interested in it. I don't think Chuck Todd
is particularly interested in it. But I think there are tens,
tens and tens of millions of Americans who would love
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to see the man who did so much harm to
this country held accountable.
Speaker 3 (50:06):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (50:06):
I've had people texting what about the careers that were
damaged of those who dared to question Fauci? How about
all the people that got fired from their companies over
the vaccine mandate? How about all the people in the
military who had to cycle out of the military because
they wouldn't get the vaccine. There's so many things that
it baffles me that people would want to not know
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that you would just just say, yeah, didn't matter. Because
here's the thing about pandemics. They happen like every hundred years,
they really do, and they're going to happen again, and
we're not going to be in any better position if
we can't have an honest conversation about what went wrong,
so we could put guardrails up so somebody like doctor
Anthony Fauci never has enough power again.
Speaker 2 (50:51):
To do what he did to this country.
Speaker 8 (50:54):
Absolutely, absolutely, it's vital that we do that. The only
thing we can do now is do that and try
and hold him to account.
Speaker 1 (50:59):
That's I don't even know what what what what accountability
is there? Can we claw back his retirement because that
would make me happy. God knows he got enough prize
money from the prizes he got his buddies to nominate
him for that part.
Speaker 2 (51:12):
Just gross.
Speaker 7 (51:15):
Yeah, hopefully, hopefully.
Speaker 8 (51:16):
I mean, he makes an enormous amount of money on
the public dole and we were talking about it before
we started recording, but he makes almost a million dollars.
Speaker 7 (51:22):
I think in his pension that he gets from his
previous roles, like, there has to be some way to
prevent that from happening.
Speaker 1 (51:31):
Here's my thinking, and this is just me some aggressive
and kind of jerk. What if we suit him civilly?
What if I got my favorite restaurant owner who not
only lost his restaurant, but the loan he had attach.
Speaker 2 (51:46):
To his restaurant was his home. He lost his home too,
So why not a civil case?
Speaker 7 (51:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (51:52):
I mean again, not a legal extual, but there should
be right And I think the only way any of
these things are possible is byeping this in the public
eye as much and as long as possible until we
start to get inroads on those things.
Speaker 2 (52:05):
Amen to that.
Speaker 1 (52:05):
Drew Holden is my guest, and he has a phenomenal substack.
It's Drew Holden, It's Holden Court at substack Drew Holden
dot substack dot com. I put a link today on
my blog at mandyblog dot com so you can find
it there.
Speaker 2 (52:19):
I highly recommend it.
Speaker 1 (52:20):
Good to see Drew, and uh thanks again keep up
the great work man, because I your substack. I have
like four substacks that I read every day, and yours
is one of them. Now, so you were in well
fine company, my friend.
Speaker 7 (52:33):
Well, thank you, Mandy. I appreciate that.
Speaker 5 (52:35):
I will keep going.
Speaker 8 (52:36):
I have a couple more threads and columns and things
than the work, so I don't think there has been
a bigger story than this one, and so there shouldn't be.
Speaker 1 (52:43):
There shouldn't be. All right, dreamn I'll talk to you
again soon. Thanks for coming today. We've got a bunch
of other things on the blog today, tons of things
on the blog today, and we're out of time because
the Colorado Rockies are about to beat the Sandy Padres
Stucke Kevin Dubs. He's the only Padres fan I know,
(53:04):
so I can only taunt him from the radio. We'll
be back tomorrow. We got a full show tomorrow, full
show to Friday, and then I'm on vacation. So right now,
keep it on KOA
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Speaker 1 (00:30):
I'm your host for the next one and a half hours,
Mandy Connell. That guy over there, Anthony Rodriguez, and together
we will be making our way up until a Rocky
spaseball game at one point thirty. They are playing the
San Diego Padres.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Suck it, Stephan Tubbs.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Stephan is a huge Padres fan, and I don't know
if he's listening right.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Now, but suck it, Stephen Tubbs.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Anyway, they're going to start that game at one thirty,
and well they're going to start the pregame at one thirty.
And in the meantime, I have a giant blog and
a full report on the ridiculous, absolutely absurd.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
I plead, the fifth third I plead, the fifth I plead,
the fith I plead, the fifth I plead.
Speaker 5 (01:18):
The fifth wait wait, wait yait, I plead, the fifth.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Wait a minute, Anthony can I ask you a question?
Speaker 5 (01:24):
I plead the fifth.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
H that's gonna make working with you a lot harder.
Speaker 5 (01:29):
Yeah, I pleaded, I plead the fifth.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Let's talk about the blog by finding it at mandyblog
dot com. Mandyblog dot com. Okay, you remaining like five
people who are still going to Koa's website to find
the blog. You have until Friday to bookmark the page
because I'm done cross posting. The ease with which I
can do a blog on substack has made me extremely
(01:53):
bitter about the fifty fresh layers of hell that I
have to do on the iHeart platform to do a blog.
So yeah, Friday.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
It's it. It's over.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
We will not be cross posting anyway. You're gonna have
to go to mandyblog dot com anyway. Find the blog
on mandyblog dot com. Look for the headline that says
seven twenty nine twenty six I forgot to put the
word blog.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Well you hop Yeah, I've.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Already ruined my chances with a Nancy right now, seven
nine twenty six fuci on the hill today. Click on that,
and here are the headlines you will find within play.
Speaker 5 (02:26):
Man Nurse Eric All with ships and clipments a scene
that's going to pass flat.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Today on the blog Baseball Eats the Show at one
thirty late edition, Fauci took the fifth on Capitol Hill Today,
Drew Holden remembers the media love affair with Fauci. Can
the Broncos win the Super Bowl? Gun stores are breaking records,
crime and Aurora is down. Denver neighbors rat each other out.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
You do have a choice.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
In November, bidennw he kept classified materials. The Broncos new
facility is crazy nice. Maybe it is the avocado toast,
after all, how did they get like this? Are you
ready for a twenty two hour flight? Another actor? Maybe
a super creep snoop on the stoop and used for
racist joke. No Chinese robots for us, no crumble. Just
(03:17):
know our national blood supply is very low. Kentucky Governor
McConnell must speak or step down. What's dumber than a
land acknowledgment. Kyle Clark begins the slow drip on Vic.
Remember when fracking was going to kill us? The lie
of city owned grocery store prices. Vic's afraid of debating
Phil some zippy history, one spoiled pop Seinfeld versus Palestinian protesters.
(03:42):
Is Kevin going to leave himself at home? Those are
the headlines on the blog at Mandy Blog, Tic tech
toe on.
Speaker 6 (03:52):
The Avisive Council, I respectfully decline to answer, based upon
my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
Look, Nancy uh played the fifth Wow Wow?
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Well the wine Yogi retweeted something and tagged me in
and it was a funny joke at Nancy's expense. And
I let her know I cannot make fun of Nancy
as long as she has the power to decide how
well I've done reading the blog, So I will not
be making fun of Nancy today.
Speaker 5 (04:22):
She's I'm gonna be sucking up tochi. Oh man ah
got fauci.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
He did get fuchie.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Okay, so you guys, this morning I get up. I
already had the Heir DVR on my television on c Span,
already had it recorded and everything. But this morning I
got up and I was making myself coffee. I get
up at about five forty five. And I got up
at five forty five, Feed the dog, do that kind
of stuff. I'm making myself some coffee. And as I'm
making coffee, I was like this dude's gonna say a thing.
(04:53):
He's not going to answer a single freaking question. He
is going to plead the fifth, even though he's already
been given a preemptive pardon by the auto pen and
he's not going to say anything. And so at six
point thirty when the hearing started, I listened to Ran
Paul make his opening comments. I listened to the Democrat
make his opening comments, and then we get to doctor
(05:14):
Anthony Fauci and he takes the fifth and it was absurd.
It was so absurd the entire thing. First of all,
I don't expect much out of congressional hearings. My expectations
are so like if they were on the ground, they
would be even with the ground. They wouldn't even be
on top of the ground. They would be just like
(05:36):
flush with the ground. That's how low my expectations for
congressional hearings actually are. And yet I found myself getting
so angry, so incredibly angry, because Republicans were asking very
pointed questions, and they were asking very pointed questions about
(05:58):
doctor Fauci's trying to cover up the actual origin of COVID,
how he enriched himself. I didn't really know about that
until I read it in the Fauci Diaries.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Listen to this racket.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Doctor Anthony Fauci, the head of the National Institute of Health,
which gives out grants. That's an important part of this story.
Doctor Anthony Fauci got his colleagues who work at places
like Duke University. He got a guy at Duke University
to submit him for an award with a million dollar prize.
He gave the guy the materials so he could nominate
(06:34):
doctor Fauci for an award that was worth a million
dollars to doctor Fauci. And then what do you think
that guy got in return? He got eight hundred thousand
dollars of our taxpayers for a grant. Now, isn't a
valid grant. I have no idea it could be. It
could be the most groundbreaking, you know, hypothesis that needs
to be ferreted out that's ever existed. I don't care
(06:58):
because as soon as doctor Fauci does that, it becomes
in my mind quit pro quo. And aren't we supposed
to all think that quit pro quo is bad? One
of the things that I said. I said this a
couple of weeks ago, and some guy brought me an email,
really taking me to task in a very kind way.
He was really taking me to task though, because I said,
at least President Trump and his family are grifting in
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the open, we can see exactly what exactly the grift is.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Like, there's no hidden grift.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
It's all just like, here we go, we're gonna grift
this thing as much as we can. I love that
this is a completely different kind of grift.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
This is the kind of grift.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
At the same time, this man in his by the way,
they keep calling it Fauci's diary, and I you know, honestly,
in my mind, I kind of had already gotten a
picture of like one of those fur covered diaries with
the little lock and the little key that you get
a seven year old girl. And he probably had a
pen with a big pew on the end. There's a
fluffy like poof there you go. That's what I envisioned
(08:03):
doctor Anthony Fauci writing this diary.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
But that's not it at all.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
He kept a contemporaneous journal of events on his government computer. Now, Anthony,
I realized that I'm not supposed to ask you any
questions because you're gonna respond.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
With the fifth.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
But in iHeart, when you do something on an iHeart computer,
what does that mean in terms of who can see it?
Speaker 4 (08:28):
Well, typically you got to go in and then you
on the divisive council.
Speaker 6 (08:31):
I respect for the decline to answer based upon my
rights under the Fifth Amendment of the Constitution.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
It's going to be a long hour and a half
with that. No, I actually just did the ethics training
again again. By the way, a rod, when you go
to do the ethics training.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
You can totally hit the fast forward button, just hit
the you can just hit the next button.
Speaker 5 (08:53):
Just do it.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Just make sure you do the same little scenarios that
they've had in there for the last ten years. I'm
sure you'll remember the answers. In any case, it is
a government computer. He is a government employee. That means
it is available to look and get a Freedom of
Information Act request, just as people did. And now they're
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releasing it. And he brags about the fact that he
got Mayor Bildeblasio to close schools and he said he
was gonna do it anyway from seeing me on TV.
But I really talked him into it. But then the
same doctor Fauci is the one that's.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Like, I, I didn't what shutdowns? You're trying to blame
that on me? What?
Speaker 1 (09:38):
What was the best this morning was I went and
looked at the media accounts of the media members like
Jake Tapper, who doctor Fauchi bragged in his diary about
becoming friends with.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Oh we had dinner with Jake and his wife. Oh
we're friends. We're friends.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
He texts me after I'm on TV to tell me
what a great job I've done.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Ah.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
This is so incredibly frustrating because it's so incredibly important.
It's important that we know what went wrong. It's important
that we do a deep dive and really investigate the
horrible decision making that occurred at the CDC when it
came to COVID, the nonsense that they inflicted on us.
(10:24):
You guys, they let elderly people with dementia die alone.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Do not let them off the hook.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
I got a comment from Tony and if you are ever,
if you're a reader of the blog or my Facebook page,
Tony is a regular force there. He is very liberal,
and Tony had this The faucibs is a total snore fest.
He's right to claim the fifth as truly idiotic. Republicans
like Mace and Paul expose their basic lack of science
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once again.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
What he may not know is that ramp Paul is
actually a doctor.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
He does eye surgeries in third world countries for people
who have cataracts on the side for free. So yeah,
he's kind of got a better handle than you might think. Anyway,
he continues, Paul's daddy bought him his doctorate, and it
shows he went to medical school. Why should Fauci answer
crap that has no purpose except trying to set a
perjury trap and get him charged. So he has to
(11:23):
spend thousands of dollars to defend against a DJ who
tried to prosecute someone for seashell arrangements. I'm sorry, Tony,
did you miss the Biden administration? Did you miss the
grandmother who was prosecuted for walking through the open doors
of the Capitol on January sixth, saying a prayer and
then walking out again.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Do not try and claim some kind of moral high ground.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Give me a break, Give me a break, good lord.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Anyway.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
So I am just, I am thoroughly disgusted, Just disgusted
because there are real questions that need to be answered
in a significant way. There need to be guardrails put
on the process before we allow one stupid, little, mealy
mouthed Italian doctor to shut down everything in the world,
damaged children permanently, and almost completely destroy our economy.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
I'm not gonna forgive these people.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
I'm not gonna forget my favorite restaurant closed down during COVID.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
And I know what you're thinking, Oh, that all big deal.
It's one restaurant.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
But the owner of that restaurant, the loan that he
had gotten was attached to his house. So not only
did he lose his restaurant, he lost his home. I
am not letting these people off the hook. And doctor
Anthony Fauci was a self aggrandizing piece of garbage instead
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of an esteemed scientist. Remember when this pompous a hole
stood up with I am the science, no or not,
you're a liar. One of the things we learned from
Anthony Fauci's diaries is that he learned in January of
twenty twenty that there was no basis for the quote
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wet market. He knew it came from a lab. He
absolutely knew it came from a lab, and he lied
about it because he wasn't supposed to be doing gain
a function, he wasn't supposed to be funding gain a function,
and he was doing all of those things and at
the same time he was covering up this lie. All
of a sudden, everyone in the media, and by the way,
(13:34):
Drew Holden is joining us at one o'clock. Drew's written
a fantastic column about the complete abject failure of people
in the media to do anything that they should have
been doing, which is ask a lot more questions instead
of sucking up and sending nice text messages.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Tony, you crushed it. You're so great.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
This story is one thing, the one thing that I
actually will use this story for a very long time.
I when I do speaking engagements occasionally people will ask
me things like, hey, where do you think things really
went wrong? You know, where do you think things really
went off the rails? And I always tell them there
are two things that are inherently corrupting, and I think
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you have to be a person of extremely good and
strong character before you achieve either of these things for
them not to corrupt you. One of them is power
and the other one is fame. Both of those things
will rot your soul. If you are not a person
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of good character and strong morality. And I don't think
anybody's going to argue that most of these clowns in
DC are people of good character and strong morality. So
here you have doctor Anthony Fauci, who's pretty much labored along,
toiled along in anonymity for all these years, making a
ton of money, but nobody really knew who he was,
and all of a sudden, Jake Tapper is sending him
(15:07):
messages about how great he did on television. Oh MG,
it absolutely went to his head, absolutely corrupted him. And
we the American people, the American children, elderly people who
were left to die alone when they didn't understand why,
people who were arrested for paddle boarding. Do you remember
(15:29):
the guy in the ocean in California who was arrested.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
They sent the coastguard to get him out of the
water where he.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Was completely alone, to arrest him for being outside during COVID.
Do not do not forget what they did to this country.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Do not let them off the hook.
Speaker 7 (15:52):
Now.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
I don't know what happens next. I really don't, because
you can't charge anything Anthony Fauci for any of the
stuff he did because Joe, by his auto pen gave
him a pardon. So what happens now? Is there a
way to strip him of his like nine hundred thousand
dollars a year retirement.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
I'd be fine with that. I mean, god, he's made
a lot of money anyway. He doesn't need to be
he doesn't need it. It's fine, it's fine.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Super super frustrating, super incredibly like slam my head against
the desk kind of frustrating, because what about all the
unanswered questions?
Speaker 2 (16:31):
How was one man? Or he and Deborah Burks. Here's
what I would do.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
I'm just gonna let you know how vindictive I can be,
Like don't I don't want to say, don't cross me.
I'm just saying, don't cross me. Because what I would
do is I would bring in Deborah Burks. I would
charge her. I don't know if any of it was
her fault, but I bet you Debora Burks will tell
you exactly what happened with doctor Anthony Fauci in this
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cover up. I bet she, if she's facing chargers, she
would be happy to tell you the full story of
what happened behind the scenes.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Charge everybody who didn't get a pardon. That's what I
would do.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Charge everybody, just like they charged everybody on January sixth,
regardless of whether or not they were just in an
open room through an open door.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Now charge everybody.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Everybody that had anything to do with COVID decision making
needs to face some kind of charges, and.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Then we'll call it today. That's why I'm not.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
A politician, because that's how I I would just go
scort stove. By the way, somebody on X this morning
was I was going back and forth with and they said,
they said, as soon as doctor Falci took the fifth
Rampaul should have started reading his diary entries.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Could you imagine that would have been epic, so good,
so incredibly good.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
So it was a waste of three hours and nothing happened.
So it was basically a typical typical day for Congress.
Nothing happened. Nothing is significance. I will tell you this,
I've made a conscious decision. Like Josh Holly, he put
on a show, and he put on a show for
social media, and you're gonna see it everywhere. I'm not
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going to play any of that stuff because once doctor
Fauci said, I what did he say?
Speaker 2 (18:16):
I'm sorry, I forgotten Arod.
Speaker 6 (18:17):
What did he say again on the advisive counsel, I
respectful the decline to answer based upon my rights under
the Fifth Amendment of the Constitution.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Mm hm. As soon as he said that, everything else
was just nonsense and foo for all. What was really
gross to me was the way that democrats. I you know,
here's the thing in these partisan hearings. One side is like,
you're the worst person ever. The other side's like, oh
my gosh, you love puppies and kittens, don't you.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
It's so stupid.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
But dear Democrat after Democrat after Democrat who still ask
nominees for Trump's cabinet if they believe that Joe Biden
won the twenty twenty election, to hear them say things
like this backward looking committee hearing, Why are we spending
time when we have other things that are pressing right now?
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Why are we looking back? I wanted to punch every
single one of them in the face. Like I didn't
because I'm not a violent person, but man, I wanted to.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
When we get.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Back, this is gonna shift gears on you. I have
a question that came up today has to do with
your underwear. I'll explain after this. We've got Drew Holden
coming up. Next, we're gonna do a quick review, not next,
excuse me.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
At one o'clock.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
We're gonna do a quick review of the fawning coverage
by the mainstream media about COVID that was so disgusting.
And when you go back, you really should look at
Drew's post because he gathered up a bunch of posts
on X with these headlines.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
OMG, you guys just so bad.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Someone wanted to know why I pointed out the Italian
doctor Anthony Fauci, which is a fair question. This morning,
as I was angry as you can tell, someone just
told me my anger was unbec I said, your lack
of anger is unbecoming. If you're not mad about this,
what kind of person are you? Why does this not
infuriate you? I just don't know. Anyway, I have a question.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
I've packed.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Oh, by the way, the Italian thing. I saw a
post on X that said doctor Anthony feltch She's one
of the most important Italian Americans ever, and I was like, oh, yeah, okay,
Like we're not supposed to attack him because he's Italian.
I don't think so. If I were Italian, I'd be
embarrassed anyway. So we're going on vacation Friday. My short
timers hasn't really kicked in that much yet, but Chuck
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is an early packer, meaning like a week before and
we've had house guests on and off for three weeks,
and some of them were coming back. They've been driving
around the Western United States. Some of them were coming back.
So we kind of had to get it done a
little ahead of times. So last weekend we all packed
like I'm packed for Alaska, just after a few and
a throw, like throwing a few last minute things, and
I'm ready to go. That being said, it has led
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me to a situation where I am left with only
what I call the B team of my underwear drawer.
The A team is packed for Alaska, and now I
got the B team drawers.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
And I don't even know why I have these underwear
in my drawer.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
But then I was talking to my trainer about this,
she goes, Oh, yeah, I totally do that too.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
You got a you got a team underwear.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Those are your go tos, These are the you're my studies,
you're not there every days. And then you've got the
everything else is in the laundry. So I got my
B Team underwear and I'm stuck with my B team underwear.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
You have this, do you not? Anthony?
Speaker 4 (21:35):
I'd like to say that this is TMI and I disagree,
but I one thousand percent everyone.
Speaker 5 (21:41):
My initial thought was I don't need to Yeah, I
know I do.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
I'm going to tell you what kind of underwear they were.
Speaker 5 (21:47):
I mean doing that.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
I'm one hundred percent with you, and it doesn't feel right,
and I feel like you are going to notice, and
I feel like you need to get your drawers in order.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Well, I do have one good pair of lefl for
the flight on Friday, because you can't fly an uncomfortable underwear.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
You just can't do it.
Speaker 5 (22:04):
Wait, have we discussed did you already say you do
or do not? Do your laundry on a cruise ship.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
I do halfway through because they always offer a deal.
They offer a deal halfway through.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
They they give you a full big bag twenty nine
ninety nine whatever. It's a seven day cruise, but we're
gonna be gone for like nine days.
Speaker 5 (22:21):
Total, anything seven or less.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Bring enough clothes, No, I bring I bring enough underwear
and socks for the entire trip, like, I am not
gonna get caught without underwearing socks. I could rewar a shirt,
you know, pants whatever, No big deal caught?
Speaker 2 (22:34):
What was that?
Speaker 5 (22:35):
And why do you need to do any laundry?
Speaker 1 (22:37):
We usually do it just so we don't have as
much laundry to get done at home, and they usually
give us a great deal because of our cabin class.
Speaker 4 (22:44):
So I challenge you to not do laundry and just
enjoy yourself and have no chores to do.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
No no, no, no no no no no no. You think
I'm doing laundry, No no no. I give it to the steward.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
How it works and it comes back clean.
Speaker 5 (22:58):
I'm aware how that works.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
And therefore boy to being Baba boom.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
But just one last thing, to just bring enough clothes,
I know. We also don't want to pack too much,
et cetera, et cetera. Mandy sightseeing or fishing in Alaska?
I am not going fishing this time. The last two
times we've gone, we've gone fishing, but we're not going
this time because we're going with our kids and our
grandkids and we're doing a cruise.
Speaker 5 (23:17):
Are you glacier?
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Can'tnot wait? Of course?
Speaker 5 (23:20):
Of course, yeah, we're planning ours for next year. We
are doing all the things.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Underwear, and you aren't even trying to get lucky, says
this texter.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Ah, Mandy, stay angry. You're saying what the reasonable people
are thinking.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Thank you, Mandy.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
If you have an A team and B team underwear,
it means that you don't own enough underwear. But I
do like I own enough underwear to get me through
a ten day vacation.
Speaker 5 (23:41):
Everyone has their favorite pairs, That's.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
What I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
And now all my A teams are already packed, So
now I got B team, So if I look uncomfortable
for the next few days, that's why I got the
wrong ones. Mandy, you should pack the B team underwear
instead and then throw it away as you go so
you don't have to pack our laundry home.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
I will tell you that there are a couple pairs.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
That I have put on from the B team in
the past couple of days that got immediately taken off
and thrown away.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
I was like, I don't even know why I have these.
I'm never gonna wear these.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
You get to a point in life where you also
just start to throw away. That's everything that's not a
team and just buy more a team.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Well, the problem is is that my AA team, like
the top notch, my go to you know, ride or
they don't make them anymore.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
They don't make those kind anymore.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
And when I saw that they were no longer regularly displayed,
I bought all of them that I could find. This
was like six years ago, So I am you know,
I'm like in a precarious place right now where I
can't replace the old ones because.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
They don't make them anymore. So why do they change underwear?
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Why in the world would anybody who makes underwear go,
you know what, we need to screw all the people
who really love that particular pair of underwear by never
making them again and only making things that are really
uncomfortable in that they hate.
Speaker 5 (24:56):
Didn't you know the laws of life?
Speaker 4 (24:58):
They change everything that you love dearly of course, Like
I have my favorite pair of joggers that are by
the same company, and I've bought them over the course
of like three different times in my life, and all
three or even though they're the same exact they're all
somehow different.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
I will say, one of my favorite clothing brands, I
bought a newer pair of the same shorts I've had
from them multiple times.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
These shorts are crap.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
They are absolute garbage, and I send them back and
I send them back and when I filled out my
return online, they were like, oh reason for return, I'm like,
whatever you guys did to cut costs, to keep the
costs low. Yes, you have destroyed these shorts that I've
been wearing for ten years, and I don't want them anymore.
Speaker 5 (25:35):
The fit changes, the material changes, just not for me.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
It's also the zippers and the buttons, like the finishes
on it.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
They try to go cheap, and then it sucks Mandy.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
I save old dundays and when I go on a
long trip they go but one way only. I don't
need to throw them away. I just need to get
through the next couple of days. To the texter who said,
who in the hell where's underwear anymore? Me, I'm just
not one of those people that's ever gonna be comfortable.
You know why, Because what if I get into an accident?
Isn't that what your mom always told you when you
were young, put on clean underwear, what if you get
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into an accident.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
It didn't occur to me until much much later.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
To ask if I'm in an accident, is that really
my biggest concern? If I am in such a bad
accident they are taking me to the hospital.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Do I really think the.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Hospital staff at the emergency room are gonna go, oh,
did you see her underwear?
Speaker 2 (26:27):
I don't think so, Mandy. Would you say your panties
are in a bunch the VT underwear? For sure? For sure?
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Mandy just got commando n not gonna do it, no way,
rosh and this Eanxer says, Mandy, as long as you
don't need medical attention, you'll.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Be fine, Mandy or a rod.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Don't you hang on to shirts or some piece of
clothing from years back that may be very worn out,
but still keep it for the memory, even if your
spouse wants you to throw it out. I am not sentimental,
but my husband, I'm gonna throw him under the bus
a little bit. Has t shirts from like decades ago
that haven't fit him for decades. So yeah, I understand that.
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I just disagree with that strategy. Just throwing that out there.
By the way, I told my daughter that I was
going to talk about this on the show, and she said,
that's not neurotypical. Mom, Well, Hey, it's my show about
your drip. Oh that's right, I gotta work on my drip.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
I ate that topic.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
We're going to be right back. Keep it on, Koa Mandy.
America bought Colorado and much of the West from France.
Why do we need a land acknowledgment? Oh, thank you
text for asking me a question about something else on
the blog today. Just when you thought the Denver City
Council couldn't get dumber, they were like, hold my beer.
(27:58):
The Denver City Council is actually considering and it's like
a serious thing. They're really they're really gonna do this.
Denversity Council would start meetings with a statement recognizing the
forced labor of enslaved Africans and their descendants.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Under a new.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
Proposal, The proposed labor acknowledgment is forcing Denver's elected officials
into a public debate over how governments should reckon with
one of the country's original sins, and whether statements are enough.
Speaker 6 (28:35):
With this.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
You guys, No, I'm sorry the TEXTU who said know
whether Wednesday Dave's out of town?
Speaker 2 (28:40):
I should have mentioned that. Sorry about that.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Every time the Denversity Council opens its mouth, it just
like honestly, like the dumbest stuff comes out, and I just.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
I can't.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
Now if you're as much of a fan of land
acknowledgments as I am, those things like we would like
to acknowledge that the land that the KOA transmitter is
on belonged to some random Indian tribe, like a really
long time ago before another Indian tribe murdered them all
and took it over, Like I that's my land acknowledgement.
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That's that's what my That's why they don't let me
do them. They're like, Mandy, no, you don't get to
do the land acknowledgments.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
This is just as dumb. What what is the point
there's Oh no, I know the point. I know the point.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
The point is so that the people on the Denver
City Council can sit there in their whiteness and they
can say, we acknowledge that the government has used the
forced slave labor, and that we acknowledge that we're acknowledging,
we acknowledge, we're the best acknowledgers.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Look at us acknowledge. The only reason.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
They're doing it is so that they can feel morally
superior to their other peer cities where they do.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Not acknowledge the things? Why are they not acknowledging the things?
Let's acknowledge away.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
Whenever I hear a land acknowledgement, I am and I've
only been in two situations in the last two years
where I was at an event people were speaking. I
knew it was going to be a certain kind of
event when the person speaking got up and was like, Hi,
my name is SO and So.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
I use they them protalent.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
I'm like, ah, but whenever they get to the park,
we would like to acknowledge that this land actually belonged
to blah blah blah, this Indian tribe, whatever.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
I just want to stand up and say give it back, then.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Give it back, because if you know it's on stolen ground,
and yet you continue to stay on that stolen ground,
doesn't that make you worse than the people who initially
stole it. I'm just throwing that out there. Anyway, Hey,
if you want to buy a gun, you better do
it in the next day. Gun stores are seeing a
huge run because starting Saturday, a whole new bunch of
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rules kick in. I'm calling them the gun poll taxes,
because now Colorado Democrats have made buying a weapon so
miserable that you're not gonna want to do it, and
that was the absolute design.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Now, you guys, there are some.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Cases right now going up through the Ninth Circuit Court
of Appeals, the Fourth Circuit, the Tenth Circuit that are
they're essentially throwing out magazine bands, They're throwing out assault
weapon bans, and surely they're gonna start throwing out stuff
like this. I'm assuming that they're actually I know it's
already being litigated, but yeah, starting Saturday, buying a gun
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in Colorado is now fifty fresh layers of hell.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Mandy.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
You have to acknowledge that Colorado was built primarily by
a long history of African slave labor.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
No, it wasn't. Were their slaves in Colorado.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
Absolutely Did our economy depend on slaves in Colorado?
Speaker 2 (31:57):
Absolutely not.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
And where there are states in the South where the
economy was absolutely dependent on slave labor one hundred percent,
Colorado is not one of them. A place can have slaves,
And the word primarily is completely wrong in Colorado, completely wrong.
And I'm no like, I'm no super Colorado historian, but
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I have looked things up here, and yes, we have
had some situations the sand Creek mass are absolutely terrible.
We've had a very robust branch of the KKK in
Colorado many many moons ago. We have had our issues,
but primarily built by a long history of African slave labor. No,
that is simply inaccurate. It's wrong, Mandy, not stolen, conquered. See,
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I was making fun of the land acknowledgment people.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
That's I mean that I was. But you're right, Texter,
you're right. When we get back, Drew Holten is going
to join us.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
He has done a spectacular column on his substack about
we're gonna go back in time and we're gonna reflect
on exactly how the media treated doctor Anthony Fauci. And
I'll give you the rest of the story about following
these news media luminaries today on x as they ignored
Fauci on Capitol Hill.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
We'll do that next. Keep it on KOA.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
The Mandy Connell Show is sponsored by Bell and Pollock
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Speaker 5 (33:25):
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Speaker 2 (33:38):
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Speaker 3 (33:42):
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Speaker 1 (33:47):
Welcome, Welcome, Welcome to the second and final hour of
the show today. We get eight by Baseball at one thirty.
But in the meantime I have a fantastic guest coming
up next. We just we're angry together off the air,
so we're going to be angry on the air. But
I have to clarify something I was wrong. If you
wanted to buy a long gun or any of the
guns now on the special Democrats Hate Them list in Colorado,
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you've missed your window to avoid the incredibly onerous new
gun poll taxes that go into effect on August first,
because they go in to effect when you pick up
the gun, and with our already ridiculous three day waiting period,
you have now missed the window, and buying a gun
in Colorado just got a whole lot harder. We'll talk
more about that later when angry people figure out exactly
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how bad it is.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
But here to another angry person.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Who buy his own account is the guy who tries
to kind of you do, keep it together, chill out,
It's gonna be fine. That's Drew Holden from the outstanding
sub Stack Holden, Court and Drew, welcome back to the show.
Speaker 7 (34:49):
First of all, Mandy, that's my pleasure. Thanks so much
for having me.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
So you have what turned out to be one of
the best columns of the week about doctor Anthony Fauci,
because you went back in time to remind us of
a few things, and you specifically honed in on the
and I've called it medium malpractice. What happened during COVID
was nothing short of an abdication of the responsibility of journalism.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
By many, many, many, many media outlets.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
They took whatever the government told them and just regurgitated
it without question. They called people who dared to question
the government line conspiracy theorists.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
We were going to murder our grandmothers. There was so
much disdain.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
Talking heads on news outlets said that if people didn't
get a vaccination, they shouldn't get medical care. I mean,
it was nuts, and you gathered up a bunch of
it in one column, And for that I am.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
Grateful my pleasure.
Speaker 8 (35:45):
I won't say I was happy to do it right,
because my blood pressure has definitely not forgiven me for
just the level of anger and frustration.
Speaker 7 (35:53):
I think I have had for these last couple of days.
But I think it's necessary.
Speaker 8 (35:57):
I think it's important, and I talked about the all
the time, but I feel we're starting to forget just
how bad some of this stuff was.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Well, some people have, and I've been reminding my audience.
In the first hour, they let older people with dementia
die alone. They shut down church services, They arrested a
guy who was paddleboarding by himself.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
They shut down schools in what we still don't know
the kind.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
Of damage that that did to the children who were
out of that environment for two years. I mean, the
list of atrocities that were committed in the name of
protecting the citizenry is way too long for my taste.
Speaker 7 (36:36):
Yes, I could not agree more.
Speaker 8 (36:37):
I did you know it took me six parts of
a substack series, each of them like fifteen hundred to
three thousand words to even try and scratch and surface
on it. I mean, it is unthinkable the damage we
already know, right, It is almost impossible to comprehend just
how much damage has been done to people, to kids,
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to families, to our social fabric.
Speaker 7 (37:00):
And we're only six years on.
Speaker 8 (37:01):
We're only going to learn more from here, and I
think that should fill everyone with a real sense of dread.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
Not to mention, I got to tell you, like I
have always thought of the United States of America as
a land full of people who were capable and strong
and not easily scared. You know, going back to that
Japanese comment after the bombing of Pearl Harbor, you know,
there's a gun behind every blade of grass. We were
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the tough guys, and man, we all not only accepted
totalitarianism on a dime, many many, many people became totalitarians themselves.
But I want to talk specifically. I don't want to
let the time go away and the Rockies are going
to eat us here in a little bit. I want
to make sure we know what happened with the media
in this entire process, because the media at its finest
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is consistently asking the questions to hold power to account,
regardless of party regards, listen, whatever, that when the media
is doing its job the best, that is what they
are doing.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
And oh crap, they didn't do any of it this time.
Speaker 8 (38:08):
Yeah, yeah, I mean I think we lose sight of
it sometimes because the media is such a punching bag
and such a talking point on you know, particularly for conservatives.
Speaker 7 (38:16):
But these folks are constitutionally protected.
Speaker 8 (38:18):
They have all sorts of special legal harvouts and allowances
in order to bring the American people, the news that matters,
and in order to hold government and other powerful actors
to account for their misbehavior, for the appearance of their misbehavior,
for all sorts of things that matter.
Speaker 3 (38:34):
Right.
Speaker 8 (38:35):
And yet for many years during COVID, that switch that
defenders of democracy, that protectors of ordinary that you know,
afflicting the comfortable and comforting the afflicted, all of that
put to the side in order to push a narrative
about that Doctor Anthony Fauci wanted people to believe about
all things COVID. And I think to me, you know,
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there's all sorts of bad things about the lockdown about
I've seen that that we need to get to the
bottom up.
Speaker 7 (39:01):
But so much of it is about the origins. It's
about how COVID came to be.
Speaker 8 (39:07):
It's about how millions of people around the world died
from a disease.
Speaker 7 (39:11):
And it's about whether or not all of that could
have come from a lab in Wuhan, China, and whether or.
Speaker 8 (39:19):
Not your taxpayer dollars could have helped not only fund
the lab but make what became COVID more dangerous, more transmissible.
And that, to me, it should have been the defining
media story of twenty twenty or twenty twenty one, and
instead the media fought tooth and nail to bury it.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
I will say that when I look back now and
a textter just sent this, in hindsight is always twenty twenty.
The public health officials did the very best they could
with the information they had in hand. I wonder if
you'll ever get tired about this topic. But the fact
is they didn't. We now know that in January of
twenty twenty, according to doctor Anthony foul She's own personal
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government created on his government equipment diary, that he knew
that the wet market lie was a lie.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
He knew it was not likely.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
That they already understood at that point that that was
an unlikely story. How many resources were diverted to cover
that story up. How many scientists that should have been
looking at other things we're spending time trying to figure
out a way to make it about the wet market
because doctor Anthony Fauci asked them to. He didn't want
it to come out because then he would have had
to answer questions that you just laid out, are we
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funding gain a function research? Did we help create a
virus that then escape from a.
Speaker 7 (40:37):
Lab and it's not even just Fauci's diary too many.
Speaker 8 (40:41):
I think this is the other point that gets lost
a little bit in the multi year kind of retrospective
on all of this stuff.
Speaker 7 (40:47):
There was an.
Speaker 8 (40:48):
Active debate online in medical communities, in scientific research communities
in twenty twenty about what the origins of COVID were,
and the media and Twitter and Facebook took their thumb
and pressed it heavily on the scale to say, Nope, sorry,
that entire side of this conversation. We are not going
to allow you to communicate in our direct messages on
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Twitter about we will not allow you to post, we
will not allow you to talk about it. And the
legacy media had a feedback loop with these social media
companies to say this is a conspiracy theory. And then
the companies took that and said, oh, it's a conspiracy theory.
We won't allow people to send it across our platforms.
We're going to cut back on misinformation and disinformation, which
fed into a feedback loop, and then the media is reporting, well,
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look what the social media companies are doing. They recognize
this as a conspiracy theory to everyone but Donald Trump
and conservatives and Tom Cotton understand that this is a
conspiracy theory, and by wrapping that bow around this very plausible,
very colorable, very potential idea, I think they crushed the
search for truth about whether or not it was the case.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
But I think they were willing participants in crushing the
truth and a case information.
Speaker 2 (41:57):
So here we have Joe.
Speaker 1 (41:59):
Biden bumbling around like mister magoo for four flipping years
when he's president, and the mainstream media is like, dude, he's.
Speaker 2 (42:07):
Awesome, look at how virile he is.
Speaker 1 (42:09):
But now every time Trump gets a bruise, it's like,
oh my god, look how elderly he is. It is
hand can say he closes his eyes during a three
hour funeral. They're like he's dying, and I'm just like,
shut up.
Speaker 2 (42:22):
And I think that's what happened.
Speaker 1 (42:24):
They were very willing to just step back and show
no intellectual curiosity. That's the birth that gets me, because
these are not necessarily stupid people.
Speaker 8 (42:33):
Yeah right, And I think that's the thing that really
kills me, Mandy, is that, like, I don't believe. I know,
there are a lot of people say, well, they did
this deliberately to cover up for China, to cover up
for Biden or to cover up price or whatever. I
actually don't think that that's the case. Like I actually
think the media is so gullible when it comes to
an expert that they respect and in some cases revere,
saying something that they forget how to do their jobs.
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They forget what the merits of journalism actually look like,
and they are willing to set to the side when
it confirms so conveniently and so naturally to their narrative.
Speaker 1 (43:05):
I'm talking to Drew Holden. He's got a great substack
called Holden Court. If you are already a subscriber in
Mind at Mandy blog dot com, you can go ahead
and zip on over to Holden Court and subscribe over there.
You know, the point is is about the expert class.
There is a a characteristic of the left, and that
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is they love experts. Like they always think if you
are credentialed, degreed, the more degrees you have, the more
they're going to give you credence. And so when you
put doctor Fauci up, there's a he's a scientist, he's
a doctor, they immediately just like, oh, yes, we have
to listen to him. But even then it's only as
long as they feel like it's on their side because
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the same doctors on the right who said, you know,
you look at the way that the media treated the
Brownstone Institute. They were a group of doctors who consistently
posted information that turned out to all be true, right,
I mean, they were right about everything, but they were.
Speaker 2 (44:03):
Treated as parias.
Speaker 1 (44:04):
They were the wrong kind of credentialed official because they
didn't tow the company line.
Speaker 2 (44:08):
So for me, it feels even more nefarious.
Speaker 1 (44:10):
It's like, just because they're telling you what you want
to hear, you've dropped any pretense of journalistic integrity and
digging in to find out if it's actually true.
Speaker 7 (44:20):
Yeah, I think that's exactly what we still happen.
Speaker 8 (44:22):
And I think it's you know, you think about kind
of like the I talk a lot about the blinkered
media right where you have these newsrooms of people, all
of whom most of whom have master's degrees that cost
a whole lot of money, and they respect all of
the types of people who went to the same types
of institution that they did, yeap, who are saying the
same things as them. It's almost like a culture thing,
more so in some cases than there's an educational thing,
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and I think they latched onto this narrative that Fauci
and I think got so much of it, As so
many stories.
Speaker 7 (44:51):
Do these days, So much of it came down to Trump, right.
Speaker 3 (44:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (44:54):
The issue was that Fauchi wasn't just a doctor, he
wasn't just the AIDS hero or whatever.
Speaker 7 (44:59):
He wasn't just the one leading us through COVID. It
was that he was doing the right thing and Trump
was doing the wrong thing.
Speaker 2 (45:04):
He was trying to lead that monkey down the right road.
Speaker 8 (45:06):
Yeah, yeah, exactly exactly, And so the idea that he
could be one wrong, I think just simply did not
occur to the media to investigate. Two More importantly, the
idea that he could have nefarious motives, right like trying
to prevent media from digging.
Speaker 7 (45:23):
Into his ties to a lab and Ruhan.
Speaker 8 (45:26):
Doing breaking research into bat coronaviruses. That's only a few
miles when we first our cases of the wet market.
The idea that any of that could be could be
part of the could be part of his calculus. The
media was just unbelievably resistant to look at. And I
think that's a byproduct of not having anyone who doesn't
think just like the standard operator at the New York
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Times thinks about the way the world works well.
Speaker 1 (45:48):
And then they became we now know from Fauci's diaries,
and somebody asked on the text line, I may have
missed it, but how did Alchi Fauci's diaries come to light?
They were written on a government computer and somebody foid
them and uh.
Speaker 2 (46:03):
And Ran Paul has an entire website so you can
go and read them all. They read like a like
a middle school girl.
Speaker 1 (46:10):
I made this point earlier that in his diary he
talks about becoming friends with Jake Tapper. So you have
people and I, as a talk show host, I am
friendly with politicians, but I would never be a friend
to a politician because I think it compromises my ability
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to criticize when they need to be criticized. I may
like them, I may think they're really cool, and if
they were out of office, maybe we'd be pals. But
these journalists put no such barricades up. They sucked up
to him, they told, you know, texting him after a
TV performance to tell him how great he did. I
think there's another factor here that is probably just as important,
(46:52):
and that is doctor Fauci, this little nerd scientist that
nobody ever paid attention for, all of a sudden and
this is one of the headlines you put on your
column today. There's a petition to make doctor Anthony Fauci
People Magazine Sexiest Nana Alive. That is intoxicating, That is corrupting,
That that entire, that entire fame wave.
Speaker 2 (47:14):
For somebody like him, is you don't want to give
that up once you have it.
Speaker 7 (47:21):
I think that's exactly right.
Speaker 8 (47:22):
And I think you know, he at a moment of difficulty,
of the moment of crisis in our country, he became
just this towering presence across intellect apparently you know, sexiness
factors and all sort of and like that the leading
political thinker, the leading medical thinker, the leading kind of
therapist and comforter.
Speaker 2 (47:44):
Science drew the science.
Speaker 7 (47:47):
Yeah, and I think you're right.
Speaker 8 (47:48):
I think that is like, we don't elevate people to
that role in a in a republic because it is
very dangerous to do so, because there's no way it
doesn't go to their head in a way that is
incredibly destructive to everything else around them.
Speaker 2 (48:00):
So after reading your column I read it yesterday and
after I read it. So today this.
Speaker 1 (48:05):
Morning, as the hearing is going on, I'm trolling X
to see what all of these journalists have to say
about these proceedings.
Speaker 2 (48:14):
Let's just say it was quiet, Drue, it was quiet
on the home front.
Speaker 1 (48:17):
Jake Tapper, who apparently he and Anthony Falgie their pals.
They hang out, they go to dinner, didn't have a
single thought about the hearings while they were going on,
not a single one. He did give us a list
of Sylvester Saloon movies in case you wanted that. So
that's on Jake's saying, I haven't looked recently. He may
have posted something else, but even now there's this eye
(48:40):
roll of Oh here we go again, Oh here, we'll
have to cover this again, the crazy right wingers. Here's
the thing about Senator ran Paul. Senator ran Paul has
been entirely consistent this entire time, and yet now he
has enough evidence to prove that he is right. Who
(49:02):
among us would not have done what he did today?
Who among us would not have been just taken the
lap and said I'm gonna make you admit that you
were wrong and I was right, and I'm actually here
for it.
Speaker 8 (49:12):
Yeah, and also to hopefully be able to actually hold
doctor Fauci accountable.
Speaker 7 (49:16):
Right. I think the other important.
Speaker 8 (49:18):
Reason for having this hearing, for hauling Fauci's but in
front of all that, like in front of the US
government and putting Himo the question, is that it's an
untested legal theory about whether or not you can challenge
Biden's outgoing pardon for doctor Fauci.
Speaker 2 (49:34):
Well, the autopen pidon pardon.
Speaker 7 (49:36):
Yeah, right, right, right, thank you, the autopen, the autopen pardon.
Speaker 8 (49:40):
But by by forcing him back in from the committee,
by forcing this back in the public eye, I think
it helps gather evidence and energy and steam behind doing
something to hold Fauci accountable. And I think, you know what,
Tapper's not interested in it. I don't think Chuck Todd
is particularly interested in it. But I think there are tens,
tens and tens of millions of Americans who would love
(50:02):
to see the man who did so much harm to
this country held accountable.
Speaker 3 (50:06):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (50:06):
I've had people texting what about the careers that were
damaged of those who dared to question Fauci? How about
all the people that got fired from their companies over
the vaccine mandate? How about all the people in the
military who had to cycle out of the military because
they wouldn't get the vaccine. There's so many things that
it baffles me that people would want to not know
(50:29):
that you would just just say, yeah, didn't matter. Because
here's the thing about pandemics. They happen like every hundred years,
they really do, and they're going to happen again, and
we're not going to be in any better position if
we can't have an honest conversation about what went wrong,
so we could put guardrails up so somebody like doctor
Anthony Fauci never has enough power again.
Speaker 2 (50:51):
To do what he did to this country.
Speaker 8 (50:54):
Absolutely, absolutely, it's vital that we do that. The only
thing we can do now is do that and try
and hold him to account.
Speaker 1 (50:59):
That's I don't even know what what what what accountability
is there? Can we claw back his retirement because that
would make me happy. God knows he got enough prize
money from the prizes he got his buddies to nominate
him for that part.
Speaker 2 (51:12):
Just gross.
Speaker 7 (51:15):
Yeah, hopefully, hopefully.
Speaker 8 (51:16):
I mean, he makes an enormous amount of money on
the public dole and we were talking about it before
we started recording, but he makes almost a million dollars.
Speaker 7 (51:22):
I think in his pension that he gets from his
previous roles, like, there has to be some way to
prevent that from happening.
Speaker 1 (51:31):
Here's my thinking, and this is just me some aggressive
and kind of jerk. What if we suit him civilly?
What if I got my favorite restaurant owner who not
only lost his restaurant, but the loan he had attach.
Speaker 2 (51:46):
To his restaurant was his home. He lost his home too,
So why not a civil case?
Speaker 7 (51:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (51:52):
I mean again, not a legal extual, but there should
be right And I think the only way any of
these things are possible is byeping this in the public
eye as much and as long as possible until we
start to get inroads on those things.
Speaker 2 (52:05):
Amen to that.
Speaker 1 (52:05):
Drew Holden is my guest, and he has a phenomenal substack.
It's Drew Holden, It's Holden Court at substack Drew Holden
dot substack dot com. I put a link today on
my blog at mandyblog dot com so you can find
it there.
Speaker 2 (52:19):
I highly recommend it.
Speaker 1 (52:20):
Good to see Drew, and uh thanks again keep up
the great work man, because I your substack. I have
like four substacks that I read every day, and yours
is one of them. Now, so you were in well
fine company, my friend.
Speaker 7 (52:33):
Well, thank you, Mandy. I appreciate that.
Speaker 5 (52:35):
I will keep going.
Speaker 8 (52:36):
I have a couple more threads and columns and things
than the work, so I don't think there has been
a bigger story than this one, and so there shouldn't be.
Speaker 1 (52:43):
There shouldn't be. All right, dreamn I'll talk to you
again soon. Thanks for coming today. We've got a bunch
of other things on the blog today, tons of things
on the blog today, and we're out of time because
the Colorado Rockies are about to beat the Sandy Padres
Stucke Kevin Dubs. He's the only Padres fan I know,
(53:04):
so I can only taunt him from the radio. We'll
be back tomorrow. We got a full show tomorrow, full
show to Friday, and then I'm on vacation. So right now,
keep it on KOA
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