07-30-26 FULL SHOW - Xcel Won't Come Close To Its Goals - The Mandy Connell Podcast

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
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Speaker 3 (00:26):
Welcome Local, Welcome to a Thursday edition of the show.
I'm your host, Mandy Connell. That guy over there, Anthony Rodriguez.
We're gonna take you right up until three p m.
When we hand the station over to KOA Sports. Got
a full show today, looking forward to it. And we
have so much stuff on the blog that we have
to get to, So join me there at mandyblog dot com.

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That's mandyblog dot com. And when you get there, look
for the headline. It's the seven thirty twenty six blog.
Xcel won't come close to its goals. Click on that
and here are the headline you will find within your me.

Speaker 6 (01:02):
Even with office half of American all with ships and
clipmans a sea that's going to press plat.

Speaker 3 (01:07):
Today on the blood green energy goals are unachievable. Tovah
Feldsche joins me today. Woopsie, I'm gonna close that out.
Vic blows up Club twenty Mayor Johnston's incompetence impacts public safety.
Ran Paul says Fauci could be prosecuted. What did Republicans
accuse Faucie of? Never forget how absurd the Fauci cult was?

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Did this guy or my show about Fauci's diary? It
takes a flowchart to buy a gun. Now Saudi Arabia
is officially in the war on Iran. Now Senator Fetterman
loves killing Hilmas leaders is moving municipal elections to fall.
The right answer the lie of front Range rail promises,
why does this look like AI? Do we have to

(01:50):
make the more terrifying looking robots? The world's biggest K
pop band won't be categorized by race. Sixty Minutes hired
a bunch of new journalists and some dog selfies. The
people making AI are kind of scared of AI. Were
you at the Megan Maroney Show on Monday? Hawk v
Drone guy trying to live forever, finds out he won't

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our gop ones ruining marriages. A rod has spider Man rankings.
A Colorado, a co owner of the Seattle Storm, yells
at teen girls, how did you mess a giant cat
on a scooter. Those are the headlines on the blog
at mandyblog dot com. Tick tech tow a winner. Thank you, Nancy.
I did have a few stumblest you know. That's okay though,

(02:36):
that is okay, a rod. Did you happen to watch
the video that I posted that I said, does this
look like AI? It is a video that SpaceX put
out of one of their rockets, Yes, landing in the ocean.
You sent that to me, I'm sorry, I thought I
think I already had that. That's what I thought. I

(02:56):
was like, gosh, that really does it look real? But
is it? And now I'm genuinely I don't know.

Speaker 5 (03:03):
We never know anymore.

Speaker 3 (03:04):
But I mean SpaceX is not exactly like you know,
Bob's social media account, and they do have to They
can't put something out that is false because now they
are a publicly traded company. Their laws about that. They
can't put a video out that was AI because then
it would create an impression among potential stockholder. You can't
do that.

Speaker 6 (03:24):
I believe it's real. Yeah, we must believe in the
e It is cool though to.

Speaker 3 (03:29):
The text is that I love your daily blog. It's
like getting a spark notes of your show. That is
exactly what it is. Although in my day it was
cliff Notes. You know, back then, when you didn't want
to read the book, you had to get the cliff Notes,
not the spark notes version.

Speaker 6 (03:43):
But in this instance you still have to read the book,
which is the Mandy Connell Show.

Speaker 3 (03:46):
Yes, exactly. I don't care if you read the book. No,
I do care if you read the book. I am
one subscriber away from thirty five hundred subscribers on it. Yeah, free,
totally free. You can do that today and make my day.
I'm super excited about our guest today. First of all,
I am excited to have a tell Tovah Feld shoe
and I don't know if it's shot or shoe. I

(04:07):
have to ask her. She's one of those actresses that
I bet you're like, you don't know her name, but
then you see her and go, oh her her. She
stars in the show I think is one of the
best shows on television. It's called Nobody Wants This. It's
on Netflix. It is a romantic comedy drama. Y it's

(04:29):
just so good. And she stars as the overbearing Jewish
mother in the in the in the show, and she
she just absolutely crushes it, just across the board. She's
so good. She's got a new movie coming out about herself. Ayron,
nobody has called to make a movie about me? Have
they no.

Speaker 5 (04:50):
Rights? Is shoes just haven't worked out? Ah? Okay, yeah,
the price point isn't where we would want it.

Speaker 3 (04:55):
Okay, good.

Speaker 5 (04:56):
And I don't like who they are planning to.

Speaker 3 (04:58):
Wait, who's gonna play me?

Speaker 7 (05:00):
Oh?

Speaker 8 (05:00):
You me?

Speaker 3 (05:01):
Who's gonna play you?

Speaker 6 (05:02):
There's been a couple a couple options thrown around. Matt Damon.
You know, it's kind of lukewarm on that. I don't
like his his filming schedule with The Odyssey, Tom Hollands
a little too busy for me at this juncture.

Speaker 5 (05:15):
And uh, neither of those two have my hair.

Speaker 6 (05:18):
So you know, until I throw someone at, who's actually
got the acting child?

Speaker 3 (05:21):
Your word on who's going to play me?

Speaker 9 (05:23):
Uh?

Speaker 6 (05:24):
Barbara streisand I had heard thrown around a few times.
I did pass along your request. No, Galgado is not available.
And and Hathaway also business, Oh thank you.

Speaker 3 (05:38):
To the text who said my dog just subscribed to
your blog. I appreciate you and your pop.

Speaker 6 (05:43):
Also, Chelsea Handler had some swear words and the response
when she was asked if she wanted to be in
the film.

Speaker 3 (05:51):
Mandy, are you already in vacation on vacation? I am
in my mind, Mandy, my space husband says the SpaceX
video is real. Now I have questions about where one
gets a space husband. Is it a husband that you
got from space? Is it a husband that you need
more space from? Or is you just a giant space answer?

(06:11):
I could take it anywhere. Oh, yes, there you go
from Mandy. Nobody wants this is fantastic. I'm telling you
it is a great show and Tobe feld show is
just brilliant in it. We're going to talk to her
about her new movie. You can see the trailer on
the blog at mandyblog dot com. But first we got
to remind you once again that Vic is blowing off

(06:35):
all debates.

Speaker 8 (06:35):
Now.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
I don't know if you heard his little video I
put it on on my blog today where he decided
his strategy is he's only going to do one debate
and this is have you heard this yet?

Speaker 6 (06:49):
A rod?

Speaker 8 (06:50):
I have?

Speaker 3 (06:50):
Okay, dang it. I wanted to get your first reaction
face because that would have been well awesome. So Vic
has sent out an announcement saying he's only going to
do one day and it is going to be a
debate with no moderator, and he's invited Phil Wiser to
I don't know, come to the COLMN. I'm guessing it's
going to be at the compound because Victor Marx is

(07:12):
nothing if not about control, and this is what he's
trying to do here. And what makes this so comical
is that everybody in the establishment and knows hows are
how things are done. They are not going to seede
control to this man and allow him to dictate how
all future elections will go. So here's what I predict,

(07:34):
I particular, there will be a series of debates between
Phil Wiser and Greg Lopez, and I predict that Vic
will say no to all of them because, as you
saw in the only debate he did in the primary,
he sucks at debating. Sucks. The best thing to come
out of the debate was on this show me exactly.

Speaker 6 (07:52):
There is a much better idea right there for the taking.
For Vic show up to every single debate he is
asked to, and for every single question on.

Speaker 4 (08:03):
The Advisive Council, I respectfully declined and sub based upon
my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution.

Speaker 5 (08:10):
It's right there.

Speaker 6 (08:11):
Timely, come on, Vic, you can you can send me
a check right now for that idea that.

Speaker 3 (08:21):
That yep, well, that's the only way he'd make it
through another debate. So he thinks that Phil Wiser is
going to is going to concede to this ridiculous, absolutely idiotic.
Although I have to say, if I was Phil Wiser,
I'd probably do it. Make it our neutral ground because

(08:41):
Phil Wiser is going to wipe the floor with Victor Marx,
just wipe the floor with him, you know. And anyway,
but that's not what I'm talking about. I'm just talking
about the fact Vig has already announced he's not doing
any debates except this fake debate that won't happen. We're
no moderators. I also heard there's gonna be arm wrestling.
What would a debate, non debate put on by VIC

(09:04):
look like. There would be armor practice, target practice. Yes,
there would, of course have to be a demon removal
that's going to go. We don't call it an exorcism.
They're they're just demon adjacent. Like they're an exorcism. A
demon is inside of you, soci of the demons that

(09:26):
are attached to you, like little Remorra just hanging on.
I don't know, I don't know, I have no idea.
And when Phil Wiser refuses to do a moderator moderator
list debate, Vic will claim that he's a coward, won't
debate him. Exactly, right, Texter, you are correct. Mandy Vick

(09:47):
is making a big announcement on the Victor Marx Public
Relations Show also known as Jeff and Bill. I'm guessing
Lieutenant governor. I gotta tell you, guys, Greg Lopez has
the best lieutenant governor candidate as of this moment, and
she is out freaking standing like he might have made

(10:07):
a mistake because she outperforms him. She's absolutely fantastic. So
Greg Low Peasant film Wiser will do a whole series
of debates. They'll just pretend like Victor Marx doesn't exist.
And what's fascinating is in this little video that I
put on the blog today of Vic talking about why
he's not doing any debates, I want you to just

(10:30):
recognize that he's trying to take control of the entire
electoral system as we know it. Now you can argue
that debates are only there for a very small number
of people. But I'm going to say this, after the
various debates, not just the Republican Governor's debate, there was
also the Senate debate. I mean, there's all of these
debates that happen for the weeks after all over every

(10:55):
form of social media. I saw clips of those debates. Now,
are the clips always fair to the peace debates? Absolutely not.
People accidentally walk into sound bite moments, and that happens
on the right and on the left, so it's not
really you know, but it does move the needle. And
the fact that Victor said that was his strategy in
the primary where he lied and said he had this

(11:18):
massive lead on you know, all this polling, but then
he barely won over a candidate that raised a fraction
of the amount of money that he raised, so he
barely eats out of the primary. Let me just say this,
If I eke out of the primary and I'm going
up an incredibly well funded opponent in a state that

(11:38):
has proven its willingness to vote for politicians just like
him over and over and over again, I'm not doing
the same thing I did in the primary. I'm looking
for an entirely new strategy. It's almost like he doesn't
want to win. That's weird, or does he really believe
he's just going to coast into this race on vibes,

(12:01):
not engaging with the listeners outside of his little planned
rallies where everybody that loves him is there cheering him
on like little you know supporters do. That's what's gonna
get it done. I don't think so. Not in Colorado certainly.

Speaker 1 (12:16):
No.

Speaker 3 (12:18):
So the big worry here if I'm a Republican, you
gotta worry that the Republicans may end up a minority
party if he doesn't get enough of the vote. And
I anecdotally, I was chatting with a friend of mine
yesterday and she said to me, anecdotally, I'm talking to
a lot of Republicans who are voting for Greg Lopez,
and I just thought same, there's a lot of people

(12:40):
that just will not vote for Victor Marx. So here
we go, Mandy, I'm not the person for Marx, but
what's wrong with doing everything differently? How it is isn't
so hot? Can you text her? Tell me what real
things Victor Marx has suggested that he's going to actually do.

(13:02):
Because I've looked at his website, which I honestly believe
was written by AI, that reads like AI very much,
so a lot of platitudes, no real answers. So I
sometimes you, guys, different is not always better. Sometimes different

(13:23):
as a disaster. So just because you don't like what's
happening now, reflexively voting for something else is not necessarily
the right choice. Now in some cases, it might be
in some cases, and I'll use Argentina as an example.
When Javier Milay started running around with his chainsaw talking

(13:43):
about slashing government or Argentina, he was doing the exact
opposite of what Argentina had been doing for some decades.
He was gonna do the exact opposite. But he wasn't
just willing nilly. It wasn't just about the chainsaw. There
was a lot of details about how unleashing the free
market can help Argentina, how cutting government spending could deflate inflation.

(14:05):
He gave details and specifics. So voting for that different
was a smarter choice just voting for someone because they're
not someone else. I mean, anyway, cardboard cutout during COVID,
Victor's best representation during COVID. What anyway? Now we're going

(14:29):
to talk to Wayde Harley, though he is the executive
director of Club twenty. Club twenty, for those of you
who might be new to Colorado or newer, Club twenty
is an organization of twenty counties on the Western Slope
and they kind of banded together many many many years
ago because, as you can imagine, those big eyeh mountains
keep a lot of politicians from the front range from
making it to the western Slope. So Club twenty has

(14:52):
been a long time organization that I would say a
vast majority of politicians in Colorado seeking office appeared in
front of not just to talk to those voters, but
also to hear what the western Slope needs are. It's
it's a very solid organization. And uh Vic decided he
would not come, and he told Wade Harley that he

(15:17):
had a previous commitment that couldnot be changed. Why didn't
you just say I'm not doing any debates? So we're
gonna talk to Wade at twelve thirty about that.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
Now.

Speaker 3 (15:27):
I have a bunch of other stuff on the block.
I mean a bunch, so a rod When you saw
the video that someone made of Anthony Fauci writing in
his diary that is exactly what I described yesterday exactly.
So yesterday, if you missed it, I talked about doctor
Anthony Fauci and what his diary really was. It was

(15:49):
not a diary, you know. It was a journal that
he kept on his government computer. But I said yesterday
on the show, I just had this vision of Anthony
Fauci on his bed with is fur covered diary like
little girls have, with a little lock and key and
then a big pen with a plume on the end.
And then a rod sends me a picture or a
video of this guy. Somebody made it with AI and

(16:11):
that's exactly what it is. I want to know what
platform this guy used to do this, because I want
to learn. That was my idea. I should be getting
the glory right now, Ay Ride, I'm not because I'm
tech not savvy. It's perfect, though, absolutely perfect for those
who sent me emails or text messages over the last

(16:32):
couple of days saying, okay, is there anything that can
be done about doctor Anthony Fauci yesterday taking the fifth Now,
there's one aspect of this that I saw yesterday on
a clip on CNN, and I couldn't find it this morning,
and it was an attorney who was talking about the

(16:54):
fact that when you accept a pardon, you then lose
your right to claim the Fifth Amendments because you have exchange.
You've been given a pardon in exchange. Well, in this case,
the Biden administration didn't ask anything, but you essentially cannot
be held accountable for any of that. So therefore you
don't necessarily have the right or the ability to claim

(17:15):
the Fifth Amendment. Now will that hold here because no
such quid pro quot was offered by Joe Biden or
the auto pen whoever signed it, I don't know, but
he could be held in contempt. We'll see. I just
I wish that I weren't so cynical about this, but
I've been at this a very long time. What worries me, though,

(17:38):
is that unless and until or until and unless we
start seeing some very powerful people being held to account,
our trust in institutions in this country is going to
continue drip drip, dripping away, and that you reach a
certain point where people lose all faith in institutions, where
there's a very quick period of time where corruption begins

(18:02):
to run rampantly, because why should we the suckers out
here the taxpayers, the minions, HOI POLOI that we are.
Why should we continue to follow the rules when it
is clear that no one in authority follows them. Now
you can make the argument that while they're still prosecuting
people who are not in authority, it's true. But once
corruption takes hold and no one trusts institutions, it is

(18:25):
not a it's not a very far, you know, walk
to the fall of a great nation. And I keep
hoping that the politicians in DC will understand that. I
keep hoping that people will start to begin to understand
that if they don't do something, they're going to oversee

(18:47):
the complete downfall of the United States of America. It's
going to be on their watch. It's kind of crazy.
One of the most frustrating things that I saw from
the things yesterday we talked about it. The Democrats were
all like, well in the world, who was spending our
time looking backwards? As already over well ran Paul gave

(19:07):
the Democrats access to all the documents that were going
to be presented in the hearing yesterday. Not one of
them tried to access the materials because you had to
have a password. Not one Democrat on that committee took
the time to look up the documents that were going
to be presented about doctor Anthony Fauci, not one. I

(19:31):
understand being political, I understand the partisan system that we
live in, but wouldn't you have some level of intellectual curiosity.
I'd like to believe that, But I'm also very aware
that once people make up their minds about something, the
last thing they want to do is admit it. And
then finding out that they were wrong and millions that

(19:53):
people died. Yeah, but people lost their homes, they lost
their life livelihoods. More children died of suicide than died
of COVID. And then what they have to think about
the fact that maybe, just maybe they bear some responsibility.
Perhaps that's it. Maybe I'll give them grace. They just
can't bear to be faced with the actual consequences of

(20:16):
their horrific and selfish decision making. Yeah, I'll go with that.
When we get back. Club Twenties executive director Wade Harley
joins me next. Club twenty It's an organization of twenty
counties on the Western Slope, and I've got the executive
director Wayne Harley in with us right now. Wave, let's start.
I'm gonna let you flesh out a little bit about
what Club twenty does more than just a group of

(20:36):
twenty counties, because it's been a long tradition.

Speaker 5 (20:39):
It's the twenty go ahead.

Speaker 10 (20:42):
Yeah, well, it's a long history.

Speaker 9 (20:43):
Club twenties, the twenty counties of Western Colorado started in
nineteen fifty three, started around lobbing Denver in the state capitol,
over roads and been involved with political issues such as water,
everything that's pertinent and specific to Western Colorado. And we
host governor's debates, you know, since the nineteen seventies, or well, senator, governor,

(21:05):
all of our legislators and Democrats, attorney generals, all those
we host debates every year and it's the kickoff to
the campaign season here in Colorado.

Speaker 3 (21:15):
So when you found out, and you found out, you said,
Sunday night, I was chatting with Wade before we came
on the air. You found out Sunday night the Victor
Marx had said he was not going to be participating
in the Club twenty debate. Tell me about that process.

Speaker 9 (21:30):
Cool. Yeah, they sent a very nice email, kind of perfunctory,
but you know, we're unable to attend the September nineteenth
Club twenty debates. I wrote back and said, you know,
this is not the end of the discussion. We're very
disappointed and we want to talk about it. We want
you to reconsider, look at who Club twenty is, what
the history is, what the tradition is, and we want

(21:50):
you to reconsider, and we'd like to hear whether or
not you'll participate in the debates by Wednesday close of business.
And mister Marx called me personally and told me he
is not their strategy.

Speaker 10 (22:02):
They looked at it again.

Speaker 9 (22:04):
He called me personally and said they will not be
participating in the Club twenty debates. And I said, well,
like I told you, this is going to be an
out loud conversation your choice not to participate in these debates.
And I said, I'm gonna, you know, scream.

Speaker 10 (22:19):
It to the hilltops.

Speaker 9 (22:20):
I have to protect Club twenty and our prediction in
our traditions and all that.

Speaker 10 (22:25):
And he said, well, it's part of a strategy.

Speaker 9 (22:27):
So I said, well that if that is your political calculus,
that's fine, but we'll let everybody know that the Republican
nominee for governor has a better place to be than
Mesa County, Western Colorado. Club twenty because he you know,
and he doesn't want to answer questions about water, agriculture,
rural hospitals, transportation.

Speaker 10 (22:47):
And I'm just going to let everybody know.

Speaker 3 (22:49):
So Phil Wiser has already agreed to the debate.

Speaker 9 (22:52):
Oh god, yeah, he and there's they agreed a year
ago that You're like, what's the date, what time? What
times I need to be there? You know, what are
the issues? What do you think the question be? Now
he's been in for a long time.

Speaker 3 (23:03):
So will the debate? How does the debate move forward?
Because I asked you off the air about Greg Lopez,
because Greg Lopez is now qualified for the ballot as
an independent, and how does Greg Lopez get into this debate?

Speaker 9 (23:15):
Yeah, we have a real problem because that can be
precedent setting kind of things. And so what we decided
through the years at Club twenty we have rules for this.
If a candidate for a major office in Colorado can
show that they have fifteen percent support in a legitimate poll,
can be internal.

Speaker 10 (23:31):
We just want to look at the methodology.

Speaker 9 (23:32):
But if they can cross that fifteen percent barrier, they
have made themselves relevant to the campaign.

Speaker 10 (23:38):
Club twenty cannot make candidates relevant. That's not our role.

Speaker 9 (23:42):
But if the Congressman Lopez can get to that level,
we will give him the microphone, all right.

Speaker 3 (23:48):
So I asked that because there's a lot of people
who don't pick up the phone for polls. I always
pick up the phone for poles because I want things
to go the way I want them to go. So
Greg has to get to fifteen percent to be part
of these debates. I would have asked when he said,
it's part of my strategy. So is that strategy ignoring
the twenty counties that make up the Club twenty audience

(24:09):
I'm genuine? Or is he just not doing debates at all?
What do you think? Speculative?

Speaker 9 (24:13):
I don't know, and I don't want to climb into
a Canada's head. But what they did say was it
was time, resources, money, those kinds of things that they
have to evaluate where their best place to put their
resources and their political calculus. Came back and said Western
Colorado loved twenty, you know, as the Republican nominee was
not where they wanted to be.

Speaker 10 (24:33):
I would love to know, you know. And then I
asked them, where are you going to be? What did
you accept? What invitations did you accept?

Speaker 9 (24:40):
And when did you accept it because he's known about
these debates since February.

Speaker 10 (24:44):
He's known the dates.

Speaker 9 (24:46):
And they said, you know, they didn't feel it was
necessary to tell me what their calculus was. So all
I can do is let the people in Western Colorado
and hopefully the people throughout Colorado know that was the
calculus they came up with, which, again, I think kindergarten
math would have gotten me to a different conclusion. But
I think the voters need to put that calculus in.

(25:07):
Why does he not want to come to Western Colorado?
We bring four hundred and fifty people from twenty two
different counties, plus people from Denver. Everybody in there. Brother's
going to be there and it's fun. Where else is
he gonna need to be? They won't tell me, But
a man, if someone could figure out what invitation he
thought was better and where he needed to be, that

(25:31):
will answer a lot of questions for me, that's for sure.

Speaker 3 (25:33):
Well, I mean, wait, don't take it personally, you can't.
Here's the thing. I was pretty sure, and I just
said this to Wade off the air. I was almost positive,
like I was probably ninety seven point eight nine to
three percent positive that Victor Marks was not going to
debate in the general election. I just wasn't sure how
he was going to get there. So the combination of

(25:55):
you trying to force his hand and then he puts
out that stupid video yesterday announcing that these going to
do a moderator list debate, which here we again off
the air. We're trying to figure out what that even
looks like, just two guys standing on a stage yelling
at each other, or or just hey, is it gonna
be one of those things where there's no you go no,
you go no, no, it's your no. It doesn't make

(26:16):
any sense. And I don't think he knows that Phil
Wiser is going to say no, so he's off the
quote hook. But man, Wade, you guys have been a
part of the political process since the nineteen seventies on
this stuff. If there's any way, and I don't think
there is, but if there's any way this strategy is successful,
this would be devastating for the entire network of operations

(26:39):
around the state that are designed to serve voters in
that area. I don't think that we can understate that.

Speaker 9 (26:45):
Yeah, it would hurt Action Colorado Progressive fifteen, it would
hurt the Centennial Chamber of Commerce. It would hurt you know,
it would help hurt Weald County, that would hurt Older County.

Speaker 10 (26:55):
You know that you have a right.

Speaker 9 (26:58):
You know, when you decide to run for you've got
to tell people where you stand. And you got it's
got to be more than I'll protect your water. I mean, well,
how are you going to protect my water? You know
those kinds of things. I mean, we have the right
to know. I mean, we know we have an electricity crisis,
we have a budget crisis, we have a roads crisis.
We have it all and the bill is coming Doe.

(27:19):
We have a right to know how you're going to
how you're going to.

Speaker 10 (27:22):
Address these problems. So I have a right to know
how I want to vote.

Speaker 9 (27:25):
It's it's not hard, but when you decided to be
governor or to run for governor, you in a way
are deciding to participate.

Speaker 10 (27:32):
In this process. And you could be an outside candidate
and you can, you know, do your own calculus and
all that stuff.

Speaker 9 (27:39):
That's fine, but it doesn't mean we're not going to
hit you're we're going to kick you in the shins.

Speaker 3 (27:44):
Waite Harley, the executive director of Club twenty I wonder
if the founders of Club twenty way back in the
nineteen fifties thought to themselves, we're going to do this
to argue about roads. And I hope in seventy years
we're still arguing about roads, because here we are still
arguing about roads. It's Wade, it's good to see you again.
Good to see you.

Speaker 10 (28:03):
Thanks for having me.

Speaker 3 (28:04):
All right, that is Wade Harley for a Club for Growth.
We will be right back. I have some really good
stuff all over the blog. If you have not gone
to the blogmandyblog dot com. I need one more subscriber
to get thirty five hundred, and I will tell you
I love looking at my little growth chart on substack.
So many of you are reading the blog. It's just

(28:24):
it warms my heart. It makes me feel good. I'm
not gonna lie. It's free too. I mean I just
mentioned that. So Saudi Arabia is officially in the war now,
and this should be getting I think more play in
the news than it is now. Whenever good things happen
in this situation, I notice they're kind of getting a
little bit glossed over. Not by every station. I pulled

(28:47):
this from our friends at Fox thirty one KDVR. The
fighting in Iran has entered a new phase, and now
we have an unlikely partner. Now I say unlikely partner,
even though this country is a long time ally of ours,
but in this war, we are allied with Israel first.

(29:07):
So it's a little shocking that now Saudi Arabia has
joined the Fray. There are really good reasons for Saudi
Arabia to join the Fray, but they joined the free
On our side, Saudi Arabia has publicly joined military escalations
against the Houthis. Now there's a few things going on
in Saudi Arabia that are pushing this forward. Number One. Obviously,

(29:28):
the issues traversing the Strait of Hormuz have severely impacted
their oil revenues, and Saudi Arabia has been trying to
diversify its economy, but it's a freaking desert, so what
really can they do. But they did build a pipeline
to take their oil to a different location, but the
Houthis are now shooting at tankers going to that strait.

(29:52):
So you have the Iranians blocking the Strait of Hormuz
and you have the Houthis, who are just an arm
of the Iranian government now blocking the other straight that
Saudi Arabia needs. So Saudi Arabia needs this taken care
of now. So they've launched attacks on the Hoofias in
order to try and open up that straight, And Saudi

(30:14):
Arabia is openly saying, we are fighting with the Americans,
and therefore we are fighting with Israel. I kind of
think that's a big deal. And maybe it's happened before
and I just didn't pay attention. I don't know, but
I think this is kind of significant because what has
got to happen in the Middle East is all of

(30:35):
these other Arab nations. He realized that Iran is the problem,
and it's not just for Israel. Do you think have
you seen the border wall between Egypt and Gaza. Have
you seen it? It's seven layers of wall and fencing
and the wire at the top with the things on it,

(30:56):
and it's seven layers because they don't want the Palestinians
coming into Egypt. So these are all problems. It's Hamas,
it's the Hoofies, it's Hezbollah. They are all the problem
and they would not be able to continue to exist
without Iran. If they did continue to exist, they would

(31:17):
be seriously defanged, disarmed, and defunded. They would then just
be a little fractured militias that would actually be I mean,
you know, we can handle that. So Saudi Arabia jumping
into this I think is very very significant. I don't
know what happens next, but their economy is in a
bad way, so I'm glad that they have finally decided

(31:38):
to take part. Can we just talk about Senator John
Fetterman for a moment. Did you see him in a
suit yesterday at the Fauci hearings? Hey, Rod dulled up
for the Fauci hearings.

Speaker 5 (31:49):
It looks good.

Speaker 3 (31:50):
It looked really good. So drop Site News is a
news site that is decidedly anti Israel, and one of
their reporters was trying to do a walk and talk
with John Fetterman, and John Fetterman made a reference to
drop Site News and then goes like, yeah, I'm with
drop Site, and Fetterman went off on this guy, went

(32:13):
off on the guy, and at one point he's like,
I love killing a moss. I love it. And I
was like, ah, I'm not saying I'm sweet on John Fetterman,
but I gotta tell you I like him more and more.
I cannot wait to see what Pennsylvania voters do with
this guy, because the Democrats in Pennsylvania are like, yeah, no,

(32:34):
we don't want him anymore. Too much of a truth teller. Now,
Apparently the stroke he had just flipped the truth teller
switch in his brain, and that makes him very unpalatable
to the Democrats. We'll see if the Pennsylvania voters agree
or disagree. But he was fantastic and I love it
when any politician who gets accosted. I too, have done

(32:58):
a walk and talk. I think I did a great
job with viak Ramaswami. You know, I would think you
would want to be respectful and ask pertinent questions. But
maybe those were respectful and pertinent to drop site news.
I don't love politicians using the F word and stuff
like that, but I do like them giving the business.
You know, do it a little ropeo dope without the

(33:22):
body language. And Fetterman did it beautifully here, yes, Anthony, Well.

Speaker 6 (33:26):
Yeah, since he was wearing a suit, someone else had
to take up the mantle of doing something that a
congress person shouldn't do.

Speaker 5 (33:34):
Use that language, Yeah, but.

Speaker 3 (33:36):
It's now becoming more common. And I know, I trust me.
I know I'm not making excuses. I'm saying it is
becoming more common. But I think that's a reflection of
society more so than a guiding star for society. Considering
how little everyone likes Congress now, I don't think that

(33:58):
anybody looks to them as any kind of Let's be
more likable, and let's be more relatable. Candy relatable, Anthony relatable.
We gotta win back white men. I know what he'll
do it, Grand Plattner.

Speaker 1 (34:10):
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Speaker 3 (34:26):
Watty, Andy Coronal keeping no sad thing. Welcome, local, Welcome
to the second hour of the show. I'm Mandy Connell.
That guy right there is Anthony Robert ga And in
case you were wondering, Anthony has taken the time to

(34:48):
do Oh geez, Louise, do I have a guest right now?
Why do is she coming out?

Speaker 7 (34:52):
Louck?

Speaker 5 (34:52):
Do you do?

Speaker 10 (34:53):
I do is a zoom?

Speaker 5 (34:55):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (34:55):
I'll let her in right now, dag namit. Sorry about that,
but in the meantime I will Uh, hang on, you guys,
let me douse Sarah. Sarah Montobano's coming on with us
from the Independence Institute. She just did a great, and
I mean great, great, great story about a kind of

(35:16):
boring but very important topic. And joining me now from
the Independence Institute is Sarah Montabano. Sarah, Oh, sorry about that,
Sarah Montobano. First of all, Sarah, how long have you
been with the Independence Institute? Oh Jesus, get it together, Hi.

Speaker 7 (35:36):
Sarah, him Mandy, how are you?

Speaker 3 (35:40):
Obviously I wish we had had video of that entire
last like ninety seconds of what has happened, because it
was a little bit of a train wreck. So, Sarah,
you are with the Independence Institute, and what is your
area of expertise for II.

Speaker 7 (35:56):
Yeah, I've been with them since about the beginning of
this year, and I'm working on energy and environment issues
for Independence.

Speaker 3 (36:03):
So this column that you just did about Excel meeting
their green energy plans, I will tell you I have very,
very healthy, low blood pressure. This one made me kind
of mad because by the time I got to the end,
I realized, to your point, we'll get into the details
here shortly, Excel is not even close to meeting the

(36:24):
emission standards that have been passed along by the legislature,
and yet, if I'm not mistaken, the taxpayers have been
charged for it. That's right, that's right.

Speaker 7 (36:35):
So taxpayers are going to have to pay either way
for these clean heat plans. That Clean Haate Plan was
passed by the legislature and it requires a certain amount
of emissions reductions by certain years. And this article I
think is really interesting because there was a twenty twenty
five goal and we've already badly missed this.

Speaker 3 (36:55):
So these are specifically emissions goals. And I need you
to kind of explain one thing to me, because what
we're talking came out here is the Clean Energy Plan,
Clean Heat Energy Plan, and from what I'm seeing, and
please correct me if I'm wrong, it appears that Excel
is trying to meet goals that will only be met
if they completely change every consumer's habits in Colorado and

(37:17):
we all give up our very efficient natural gas furnaces
for electrified systems. Am I reading that right?

Speaker 7 (37:26):
That's how we read it too, that there really isn't
a way to get to these emissions cuts from natural
gas without switching to electrification.

Speaker 3 (37:35):
And that's all pretty clear.

Speaker 7 (37:37):
Through the filings, but when you actually like dig into
what their own the company's own consultants have said about this,
they said it's very unlikely last year when this was passed,
that they'd be able to meet the twenty twenty five goal.
They missed that, And a lot of this discussion is about, well,
how do we get consumers onto heat pumps instead of

(37:58):
gas furnaces. How do we you know, subsidize and rebate
those kind of things so that we increase adoption and
to meet some of these emissions targets. There's a lot
of healthy skepticism in their reports that they would even
be able to do that if there was any amount
of money they could actually do to get enough consumers
off of natural gas to meet this.

Speaker 3 (38:19):
Wait a minute, so that's from the company's own report,
So that's from the horse's mouth. Why didn't the PUC.
Why does the PUC continue to approve rate increases to
allegedly accomplish these goals when it's very clear they're not
just not lowering emissions. They actually went up year to year,
so we're actually moving in the exact opposite direction. At

(38:41):
what point does the PUC say, wait a minute, we
gave you all this money for this result, and you
failed miserably.

Speaker 7 (38:48):
I have to assume the PUC or someone in their
staff are reading all of these right like this was
submitted straight to the PUC. It's a great question where
does it actually end because at the same time that
Excel is reporting on this clean Heat plan, they're also
asking the PUC for natural gas infrastructure rebates because shocker,

(39:10):
I know, they actually still have to pay for the
natural gas infrastructure for the consumers that are using that,
and if they don't actually do upgrades on that, it's
going to start falling apart and getting even more expensive
to run. So we kind of have consumers on a
catch twenty two here. Either the Clean Heat Plan is
going to move consumers onto electricity so fast that you

(39:31):
don't need to invest in your gas infrastructure, or you
still will need your gas infrastructure and you need to
be investing on that. And the PUC is on both
sides kind of starting to realize that this is going
to get expensive, especially this year when affordability is really
the word that every politician, every elected official, every appointed
official wants to claim as their own.

Speaker 3 (39:54):
Well, I mean, Sarah, all we have to do is
look at Europe to see what happens when you move
away from reliable energy, renewables and a big part of
our energy issues right now. I love the way that
everyone's trying to blame data centers for, you know, energy
emergencies that we just had over this last week of
really really hot weather, when the reality is out, we've

(40:14):
we've offloaded too much of our reliable energy to renewable
sources that are not working in certain times, and those
happen to be the same times that we need the
most energy. It's fascinating to watch the discussion around all
of this happen. But my question, if you've been studying
energy policy for a long time, I have this question.
Has there ever been energy policy put forward that required

(40:36):
a concrete plan at the time of adoption with realistic
options to get you from point A to point B
when it comes to energy emissions or is it all
just this nebulous we will cut emissions by thirty percent.

Speaker 7 (40:53):
You've seen something that like that, send it to me,
because I certainly haven't seen it. The legislature just locked
down these targets of you know, four percent cuts from
natural gas by twenty twenty five twenty two percent by
twenty thirty and from twenty fifteen levels by the way,
so we're actually farther away from that goal than getting

(41:14):
closer to it. So I really I feel like there's
a huge disconnect because the PUC is supposed to be
working for consumer interests, it's supposed to be kind of
mediating the legislature's intent here, But the POC has handed
Excel Energy a really incoherent mandate here from the legislature,
and I really don't see that there's a way to

(41:35):
do it. And I'm not Excel Energy's biggest fan and
in most cases, but I really do feel a little
bit sorry for them that they have to try to
make the impossible possible.

Speaker 3 (41:45):
Well, but there's a perverse incentive here in that Excel
makes more money on infrastructure projects for green energy and
things of that nature. So it's not in their best
interest to ask, how are we supposed to get there?
They're just going to keep building crap like they're trying
to do, and they're going to keep making I mean,
it's just what we've We've created this this incentive loop

(42:06):
in our energy at the same time we have monopolized
it in such a way that, No, the only person
that doesn't have a voice is the rate payer. You know,
that's what the PUC is supposed to do, and they're
just abdicating their responsibility. So what what has Excel said
since you've read these reports and I haven't, do they
have any kind of projections on when or how they

(42:30):
may make these because they're not going to change in
US enough consumer behavior, it's not going to happen. I'm
not giving up my gas furnace unless they're going to
buy me a new one, pay to retrofit my house,
and then you know we can talk. But even then,
at our altitude sometimes you know, electric doesn't work as well.

Speaker 7 (42:50):
Right, So the way that the legislation is laid out
is there's a cost cap. So EXCEL modeled what would
happen if they actually only spent what the you know,
the legislature actually intended them to spend, and they would
only hit three percent reductions for that twenty thirty target,
So they would be so far under it's ridiculous if

(43:10):
they stuck to that cost cap. On the other side
of that, if they actually met the twenty thirty goals
for emissions reductions, they'd be spending between one and one
point four billion dollars per year, which is well more
than half even at the low end of what they
would be spending from their natural gas system. So they

(43:30):
would be just funneling those profits, those revenues right back
into electrification. And they're really skeptical that, you know, it
would be I think what they said is that it
would be an unprecedented, nearly overnight transformation of the heating
appliance market in Colorado, and they're skeptical that that would happen.
That even high incentives, even paying you lots and lots

(43:53):
of money to retrofit your house, they're skeptical that they
would even be able to get to get adoption to
the levels where they could meet those targets at all.

Speaker 3 (44:03):
So why are we even here, Sarah?

Speaker 9 (44:06):
Why?

Speaker 3 (44:07):
I mean, don't get me wrong, these are all rhetorical,
irritating questions that I'm just going to throw into the
ether here. But at what point do our legislators go, Hey,
maybe we should ask follow up questions like what is
realistic in terms of reductions? What can we control? Because
it seems to me that they've given Excel an edict
that is completely out of the control of Excel, and

(44:29):
now Excel is like, well, we can't do this, Well,
this is just all. I realized that much of this
legislation is just so members of the Colorado legislature can
tell everybody how green they are. I swear to God,
I think that's what it is. But at what point,
when the reality is so far away from the aspirations,
at some point we have to start making adjustments.

Speaker 7 (44:52):
I would hope that that would be soon, and my
fear is that this won't happen until the costs really
start to be felt on rate perriers. If I had
any advice for the legislature on this issue, I would
say that it's it's essentially that there are some free
market forces still. Consumers still have choices, and they still
have preferences for their home heating, and you should allow

(45:14):
them to have that happen, because if a heat don't
make sense for my household, there's nothing stopping me from
going out and buying one and installing it. You don't
need to pump subsidies and rebates into this market, and
you certainly don't need to funnel it through Excel Energy,
and Excel is not victimless or not lameless in this either.

(45:35):
They're not a bystander to this because they've been very
much on the forefront of green energy mandates and charging
ahead with these plans. But it's simply a distortion of
what the free market is, at least in this energy space.

Speaker 3 (45:52):
Agreed Sarah Montabano with the Independence is to a great job.
It's a very informative and infuriating column. But I appreciate
your work very much. Thank you so much, Mandy. All right,
have a good day. That's Sarah Montalbano. Read her work.
I put a link on the blog today at mandyblog
dot com. You know, I've been thinking about this a
lot lately. Anyone, when do you do win your thinking time?

(46:13):
When do you do your thinking that you need to do?
Just like you're thinking about things that you need to
think about.

Speaker 5 (46:18):
Oh, any course of the two three hours. I'm on
the road every day, But are.

Speaker 3 (46:21):
You Do you have music or something on it at
the same time?

Speaker 6 (46:23):
Sometimes I will turn it off. I was talking to
Hannah more like you recently. What a lot of silent driving?

Speaker 5 (46:28):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (46:28):
And I was talking to Hannah. She is the wonderful
marketing uh director behind Fix to twenty four to seven,
and she's just super and we were talking about the
fact that we both like to drive in silence. That's
my thinking time when I really ponder things. I have
been rolling around in my head trying to figure out
a way to put real choice in the energy market.

(46:49):
But the infrastructure part is the hard part, because I
am not one who thinks that you should be able
to mandate that someone else can use Excel's power poles,
you know what I mean. So it's like, how could
we and check some kind of competition into the energy
field and pun intended and because what we've got now
is so unsatisfactory. And the reality is is that we

(47:10):
don't have free market forces at all, not since the
legislator legislature started making edicts about you know, you have
to lower your emissions, you have to do this. But
apparently there's no teeth in those because if there were
teeth in them, then perhaps XL would have been a
little more aggressive when the bill was making its way

(47:32):
through the legislature and saying, look, we can't meet those goals.
We can't do it. But see again, there is that
perverse incentive where XL makes money every time they build
green infrastructure, So whether or not it's effective doesn't matter
to XL. That's how they're making money. They don't make
money on the providing power part. They make money all
the other stuff, the building out of these things that

(47:55):
apparently don't work. And when you put a goal of yeah,
we're gonna we're gonna get all these people to buy
heat pump. By the way, somebody texted in and said, Mandy,
I didn't think that heat pumps were effective at high altitude.
They have gotten much much better, but their capacity and
efficiency drops about twenty percent due to the thin air,
and the higher it gets, the less efficient they are.

(48:19):
So you know, they're not right for everybody, and everybody
should be able to choose what they want. But that's
not at all what's happening here. So it's been very,
very very frustrating, Mandy. They can pry my wood burning fireplace,
insert and wood pellet stove out of my toasty, warm,
dead hands, preach, I'm right there with you. Or as
I learned yesterday from one of our twenty four year

(48:40):
old salespeople, clock it. I got this clock it. I
learned that yesterday Iron Aaron's waving me off. No, you
don't think so closed.

Speaker 5 (48:48):
No, no, God please, no, oh maybe my.

Speaker 3 (48:51):
Guys, I gotta do it to que That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (48:55):
No, you're just old, no at old no, no, no, no, no,
no no.

Speaker 3 (49:00):
Welcome to the elderly side of things.

Speaker 5 (49:02):
Anthony Clockett is just stupid.

Speaker 3 (49:04):
Yeah Clockett, Anyway, this Texter, I'm a master electrician with
more than thirty years in the trade. You would think
I would be cheering all this electric push. However, all
electricians in every lineman I talk to are all on
the same page. This is a terrible idea. We tried
it in the seventies and eighties and realized it was
a failure then, and the grid is essentially the same

(49:25):
as it was then. There you go. That's the problem
because right now we're being told that we have energy
emergencies because it gets super hot and everybody wants to
use their AC. So what happens when everybody is completely
electrified all over the place. We don't have the grid
in place to make that happen. We just don't. I'm

(49:48):
actually super worried about the grid, and I'm not even
being facetious. So in thinking about how to diversify our
electrical systems. I then started thinking about grid security. I
think that as we move forward, it makes no sense
to not marry power lines anywhere, because there's going to
be a security aspect to it, not the least of

(50:12):
which is that a bear could crawl up your power
line polls and then knock everybody's power out while electrocuting
itself to death. That happens. Maybe I listened to you
and Ross while I'm driving advocation quiet driving might be
against your best interest. I get it, I get it.
But see, here's the thing, you guys. For three hours
a day, I hear my own voice in my head

(50:33):
because I got headphones on, and by the time I
leave here, the last thing I want to hear is
another human voice. I just don't. I just need I
need quiet, and I do my best thinking there. I
always think of the Founding Fathers. Not that I'm comparing
myself to a Founding father, but the Founding fathers had
to get on horseback and ride to Philadelphia. You know,

(50:53):
much good thinking they did in then, lots nothing to
do but probably sing some sea shanties, maybe some you know,
songs with risky lyrics, maybe some hymns. I don't know
and think. I just wonder where people do their thinking.
Where do you in the audience? Where do you do
your thinking? Time five sixty sixth nine oh five six

(51:15):
sixth nine oh text me. I don't know why, but
Clockett grinds my gears. I won't do it on the
show anymore, but I am going to do it to
my daughter Mandy. At one time, my parents had a
house in the Stately neighborhood that was built between the
late seventies and the mid eighties, and they did not
install natural gas lines when the neighborhood was built. Guess
what they installed in the nineteen nineties. Yep, Mandy, is

(51:39):
there a natural electric fireplace that looks as good as
my gas one? Electric fireplaces have come a long way,
but there's still electric fireplaces. Okay. I don't hate electric fireplaces.
I think they are time and place. They can be wonderful,
great way to add yourself a fireplace if you live

(52:01):
in an apartment or something. You could take it with
you when you go.

Speaker 8 (52:05):
Look.

Speaker 3 (52:05):
I don't hate them, but that's kind of like when
someone says, oh my god, I made this mash cauliflower
and it tastes just like mashed potatoes. It may be delicious,
but it does. But it does not taste like mashed potatoes. No,
it tastes like mash cauliflower. It does not taste like
mashed potatoes.

Speaker 5 (52:22):
You're on the right track, and then you have to
tive a.

Speaker 3 (52:24):
Nope. I'm just throwing that out there. Both can be good,
but they're not.

Speaker 5 (52:29):
The same, not the same.

Speaker 3 (52:31):
Another right one best thinking on the toilet says this texture.
Too many people take their phones in the toilet though,
And by the way, multiple people are saying, I do
my thinking during my stinking time.

Speaker 5 (52:44):
Yeah, I like that.

Speaker 3 (52:45):
Yeah, do my thinking. Well, I'm thinking.

Speaker 5 (52:48):
Don't be on there too long. It's not good for you.

Speaker 3 (52:50):
It's not good. We're actually seeing a huge problem with
hemorrhoids in young people because they're sitting on the can
too long scrolling their phones. Do your business, get up
and then go sit down somewhere, squad. I will say
this when when I had a small, small child at home,
there were times when I spent longer than I needed

(53:10):
to in the restroom just to have like a moment
of quiet, just a moment. A lot of you apparently
everybody poops and thinks walking and thinking three to four
miles a day, I too, walk in silence. That's another
good amount. That's not that far. That's like an hour.
That's an hour of walking. That's an hour for me. Yeah,

(53:33):
I walk two miles and a half an hour every day,
so that's yeah, Mandy. You can very high voltage power lines.
They would have to be insulated, and that would contribute
to the transmission being inefficient. Overhead lines are non insulated
for a reason. Ray, I just read an article fairly recently.
I'll see if I can find it. But you seem
like a guy who would already know about this. So

(53:55):
they are. They're now moving towards using super cooled wires
that are insulated with cooling. I'll have to find it.
I don't want to say what I think I know
because I might be totally wrong. This text is honest.
I try to avoid thinking. Though I don't respect you
for not thinking, I do respect your honesty text, Mandy.

(54:17):
Thinking time is great when you drive. When I drove truck,
I would drive to Salt Lake a few times a week.
There were times I would drive most of the way
in silence. Average eleven hour drive time. Me too, Me too,
As I said once if I ever had a gravestone,
and I don't necessarily want one, but I'll probably have
one because Chuck wants one, and you know, on my gravestone,

(54:38):
I just wanted to say she was entertained by her
own mind. I will say I do think that the
more we are all attached to our phones, the worse
we are at thinking. Mandy Verlain and I vacation with
no radio good times. How wait, do you just drive
the whole vacation stone no music or anything. I don't know.

Speaker 5 (55:00):
It's a whole lot of road games.

Speaker 3 (55:01):
Yeah, best thinking exercising at five point thirty every morning
when it's quiet. I do do when I walk on
the treadmill. When I walk outside, I don't have any noise.
But when I walk on the treadmill, I watch podcasts.
So I do do that.

Speaker 5 (55:18):
Yeah, always watching something.

Speaker 3 (55:21):
It's been so smoky this summer. I've been on the
treadmill a lot, a lot more than outside. And my gug,
it's been hot. Good gravy. Anyway, got a lot of
other stuff on the blog today, including a story and
I know that Chad has had it in the news
earlier today about the city of Denver, and I'm just

(55:42):
gonna say it. This is not what Chad said, but
I'm gonna say it. It's time to start calling it
what it is. The complete mismanagement of Denver's budget by
Mayor Mike Johnston and the Denver City Council is why
we don't have people to go out and investigate a
crime scene. Denver Police Chief Ron Thomas told city council

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members on Wednesday that city budget issues have forced the
department to leave key civilian positions unfilled across crime labs,
Record and Identification Bureau, and Fleet Maintenance Division. So here's
what's happening. Crimes are committed and normally when the crime

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lab is fully staffed, which it is not remotely fully staffed,
it's budgeted for forty five positions. Only twenty seven of
those are filled. Two years ago, the budget was budgeted
for sixty positions. Oh, I'm sorry, that's the Records inn
ID Bureau in the crime lab. Now we have police officers,
and I know that police officers do go through training

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to learn how to treat a crime scene. But crime
scene investigators that's their job, that's their gig. The bureau
says nine News was the subject of a report that
nine News that found its Leyton Prince unit had a
case backlog of three hundred and thirty six a turnaround
time of eighty days. Eighty days come on that did

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delay the release of someone in custody long enough that
the department misses illegal deadline and has to let them go.
We've had a story a few weeks ago about how
the fire department is being told nobody's doing overtime. They
don't have enough firefighters because they just don't have the money.
At what point do we start looking at the mayor

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and the city council and saying, did you really need
to blow all that money on illegal immigrants? Did you
need to blow all that money putting homeless hope people,
the oldest people in hotels so they can die of overdoses.
The city of Denver is being just grossly mismanaged financially.
And you know the worst part is the same kind
of people will get elected. I saw a I went

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by on social media and I shuddered in horror as
the possibility seemed real, and that was could the new
rising socialist movement in Denver elevate Lisa calder Own to
the mayor's office. Are we about to be Seattle? Is
that what's about to happen? Were you elect a socialist

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mayor who's so devoid of any sort of economic knowledge
that they continue to run things into the ground. They
just fired the Seattle police chief, by the way there
why because he was what's the word I'm looking for,
trying to enforce the law. I mean, that's I'll read

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this from Fox News. Seattle Mayor Katie Wilson reportedly relieved
and battled police Chief Sean Barnes of his duties Wednesday night,
following mounting criticism over his absence from the city and
the department's delayed public response to a mass shooting, a
run in with reporter, and questions over his frequently being
out of the city. I mean, I love Seattle, love it,

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but I cannot imagine working in Seattle as a police
officer where they allowed an entire city block to be
taken over by a bunch of dirty foot hippies and
made a you know, cough free zone. Get back to
Mayor Johnston. At what point does the news media start

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to say, why do we have this massive budget shortfall?
Are there areas mayor city council where you could have
allocated dollars in a better way. Because this is exactly
what they always say, isn't it when they say, well,
you know, to prive this tax increase, they weren't going
to have to cut firefighters. I had police officers and

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all of that stuff. Well, how about you do your
jobs better and we don't have to worry about that.
I'm so happy I don't live in Denver for real, Mandy.
Thinking cancer sounds like a great slogan for an AI company.
Oh that's that's that is a slogan in the future.

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That would be really really good. How about thinking is overrated?
I like that one too, best thinking toilet dreams, shower work,
your show. Oh thank you, thank you so much, Mandy.
Thinking leads to overthinking. Oh contraire, my friend. Let me
explain to you the genius of an allotted thinking time. Say,

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for instance, I'm driving home as I will this afternoon.
Takes me about anywhere between thirty five and forty five
minutes to get home, depending on traffic. In that thinking time,
I may ponder a great variety of issues. They could
be personal, they could be professional, They could be political,
they could be how can we make the free market
a part of the energy system in this country? Because

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I gotta tell you, does anybody in this audience not
agree with the statement that if there was just a
pure market for like tricity and there were actual companies
competing for our business. Do you think the grid would
be in bad shape? Of course not. Do you think
we would be laboring under power emergencies? Of course not.

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But government is so enmeshed in the delivery of power
that it makes it almost impossible to get anything done anything.
So you have your thirty five to forty minutes allotted
for thinking, and then you can roll over these big
ideas and all of that stuff. And at the end
of that time, I open my car door in my garage,

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I get out usually chuckle, let's jinx out. So she
comes out to the car to yell at me until
I give her my afterwork treat that I give her
every day when I get home. And the thinking part
of the hard thinking, the overthinking, that's done. And if
something intrusive pops up during the day, I'm like, oh,
I will address that in my next period of thinking,

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which maybe the next morning when I drive to the office.
So having sort of mentally scheduled thinking time is actually
an antidote to overthinking. I don't know, you know, I've
never been I have friends that I know are true overthinkers,
like think something to death until they have funked it

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so much and so long that it no longer makes sense,
but they're still going to think about it. I am
not that person, but I'm telling you a designated thinking
about at time is a little mental game that I
play with myself, and it actually works. Mandy, the Hickenlooper
commercial diverts all blame for Colorado's issues from him and
local government and places it all on Trump somehow. Well,

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tomorrow at one o'clock, I've got somebody from the Common
Sense Institute on about their most recent study that showed
how much money government in Colorado adds to the price
of a new home, and they compare it to states
around us. It is not shocking at all if you've
been paying attention. But it really makes me want to

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have the political media that we'll talk to the politicians,
or rather that the politicians will talk to. I want
them to start asking questions about this. If you could
lower the cost of a new home by this many
thousand dollars. Would you do it the whole say yes, great,
repeal these provisions, make them go away. That's the part
you guys, added to the cost of a new home.

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I just I don't see that happening though, Mandy, thinking
there's an app for that, that's a good one. That'd
be great, Mandy. Back in the late nineteen hundreds, kids,
we didn't have AI or easy access to the Internet.
We had to think out solutions to problems on our own. Ah,

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the good old days. It now takes a float chart
to buy a firearm in Colorado. I saw this today
and I honestly started laughing. Here's how to apply for
an SSF eligible ability card in Adams County. They were
kind enough to make a flow chart. Nope, we got

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a flow chart now. It starts on the top left.
Step one customer application. I just wish you to listen
to this for just a moment. Step one customer application.
The process begins on the CPW website, where the customer
creates a profile and submits a simple application. The profile
is continuously accessible and updatable, which is crucial due to

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the extended timeline of the overall process. Number two, after
that sheriff's office visit. The customer presents a completed CPW application,
results of a name based background check, and a government
issue photo ID to the sheriff's office. Fees are collected,
as well as the fee for cpw's program administration and operations.

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Step three Review and Card issuement. The sheriff reviews the documentation,
determines eligibility, and issues the eligibility card. The information is
entered into the five Arms Safety System. Step four. By
the way, this is just to buy a gun, not
to garry concealed. No, just a buy a weapon, certain weapons,

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semi automatic not all. Number four Course Enrollment and Exam.
The customer enrolls in and takes a firearms safety course
from a shaff fairetified instructor. Upon course completion, the customer
takes a required exam and the instructor enters pass fail
results into the FSS. The FSS then generates a certificate

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of completion to the customer. Number five Firearm purchase. The
customer selects a firearm for purchase at a Federal Firearms
licensed dealer, who then initiates the purchase process. Number six
Firearm Dealer Verification. The FFL confirms the required information, including
the successful completion of the course and the passing of

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the exam, and enters the information into the insta check
system for final review before you can buy a fire. Now,
what's funny about this is that if you recall correctly,
they are very specific, specific rights that are outlined in
the Bill of Rights. Hang on, let me pull this

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up and oh, hang on, our keyboard over here is
a little sticky. There's like the space bar doesn't function correctly.
You may have varted the Bill of Rights, and of
course in the Bill of Rights, you've got the fifteenth Amendment.
That is the only amendment that is designed or the

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only thing in the Constitution that actually refers to the
right to vote. Fifteenth Amendment. It's not the only thing
that it grants the right to vote for all male citizens,
regardless of their ethnicity or prior slave status. It's in
the constitution. That's why people on the left stay it's
incredibly important that we don't put any kind of barriers
in the way of people voting. Now, they believe that

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asking someone who has an identification is a barrier. It's
a very low barrier. Just hey, here's my ID. That
everyone has and I'd like to vote, And there you go.
That's too high a barrier for them. But then we
jump forward in the Bill of Rights and we can
go to the Second Amendment. That amendment apparently doesn't have

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the same I don't know protection needed when it comes
to our right to exercise the rights under the Second Amendment,
which is owning a firearm. Now, I would argue that
an uninformed idiot with a right to vote is as
dangerous as an uninformed idiot with a firearm. May not

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be as immediate, but the potential for damage with that
vote is far more than the potential for damage from
one armed idiot. I fully expect by the way, I
think this is going to go down in absolute flames.
The US Supreme Court as it is currently constructed, has
shown over and over and over and over again they

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are not in a mood for any idiocy that limits
the citizen's right to own a firearm, including a series
of poll taxes and hoops that Colorado has sent up
specifically to dissuade people from buying guns. That is the
only reason we're doing this, because everything they've done so far,
every gun law they've passed that they told us we

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need to do this because we got to keep Colorading safe.
None of them made us any safer. None of us
have stopped gangbangers from shooting each other and children. None
of it has worked. The reality is is that I
think the Supreme Court, when this does eventually get to
the Supreme Court, will absolutely whack this and clarify once

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again for Democrats that the right to bear arms is
the right to bear arms, whether they like it or not,
whether or not they think a certain kind of gun
is super scary. Look how scary that gun is. We've
got to be in it. We got a scary, just scared,
scariest thing ever. I don't care if they think it's scary.

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I really don't. And for those of you that are
like the second of that that never wanted us to
have have I out of that firearms, Well, the Second
Amendment let us have the same kind of guns that
the government had back then. In theory, I can argue
that the Second Amendment means I should get to own
a tank. I already can own cannons. By the way,
that is the thing you can own. You can buy

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them on eBay. I mean, I'm not telling you too
I'm just saying, if you want, if you've got a
little extra money running around, you can buy yourself a
cannon when we get back. Right now, we are seeing
the full court press to bring the front range rail
to Fruition. We already know, because those of us who
pay attention to such things, that everything they're saying to
you is going to be wrong. How do I know

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with such certainty? Well, Randal Loo tools written a column
about it, reminding us of the promise of fast tracks,
the boondoggle that brought us light rail. We'll get into
that next.

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the best role on one of my favorite shows. Nobody
wants this Tovah Feld show, so she's coming up at
the bottom of the hour. In the meantime, I'm going
to rip through some of these stories. I've got some
good stuff on the blog today. One of them is
a column by Randall O'Toole. And Randall O'Toole is one
of the best guys on mass transit that you will read,

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especially on Colorado. He's the director of the Independence Institute
Transportation Center. He's even written a book called Romance of
the Rails, Why passenger trains we love are not the
transportation we need. And he's got this great column about
co Co co Coo of course, the snappy new name
for the Front Range passenger rail that Jared Polus is

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all hot and bothered about. That I believe has a
zero percent chance of ever seeing Jared Polus ride unless
it is the very first day. What he does so
as a photohop. So he reminds us of the promises
that were made about fast tracks. Fast tracks. Of course,

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back in two thousand and four, Denver's Regional Transit District
said the only solution to increasing traffic congestion was fast tracks,
which was supposed to cost coincidentally, four point seven billion dollars.
You know what's funny, Do you know how much the
Front Range passenger rail is going to cost? Did you
guess four point seven billion dollars. You are correct, It's

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almost like that number. They're like, uh, I might see
I think we should say this is gonna cost Ah,
I don't know how about four point seven billion dollars.

Speaker 5 (01:12:09):
Okay, I got that.

Speaker 3 (01:12:11):
That number sounds familiar and I don't know where it's from.
So four point seven billion dollars. Back in two thousand
and four, that was gonna be for one hundred and
forty eight miles of new rail transit lines in the
Denver Metro Advocates promised that we just build this and
by twenty sixteen they would take more than two hundred
and forty thousand cars off the road each day. How

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did that work out? How did these grandiose promises turn out?

Speaker 7 (01:12:38):
Well?

Speaker 3 (01:12:38):
Thank you for asking. Fast tracks suffered eighty percent cost overruns.
Some of the lines are still unfinished. Longma, We're looking
at you, but we're not going to take a train
to you. A review of ridership numbers reveals that as
of twenty nineteen, ourtd's new trains took no more than
eight thousand cars off the road ode per day in

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a region where people drive ten million trips per day,
removing eight thousand had zero effect on congestion, and as
a matter of fact, congestion is worse, way worse than
it was in two thousand and four. Now, the district
is telling us about front range passenger trains that after
spending four point seven billion dollars, it will spend another

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one hundred million per year operating ten trains a day
each way between Fort Collins and Pueblo. Each train is
likely to hold only about five to six hundred passengers
at most. That's ten to twelve thousand cars off the
road per day, not enough to have an impact on congestion.
The district also promises that people will be able to

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take the trains to proco games or other events at
Mile High Stadium. The district will own only about five
train sets that can potentially bring about twenty five one
hundred to three thousand people to the stadium, not enough
to fill more than a small fraction of these seventy
six thousand seats for football games and eighty five thousand
seats for concerts. The district also claims that trains produce

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eighty percent less pollution than driving. That's based on trains
in New York City, not ones in peers to the
front range area. Generating the electricity powering Denver's light rail
produces more greenhouse gases per passenger mile than the average suv.
Let me repeat that for you. Generating the electricity powering

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Denver's light rail produces more greenhouse gases per passenger mile
than the average suv. So does New Mexico's rail Runner,
which is a diesel powered inner city train like the
front Range rail would be. So we're being sold the
exact same lies, same lies, different year. The question is

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why would we Why would we believe them? Why would
we these experts. So they're going to trot out with
all of these numbers and all these predictions and oh
how great everything's going to be. At what point do
the voters go, Yeah, now, dog, we don't believe anymore.
We're done. No, we're not going to do this. What
I would love is for the polling on this to

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have two questions. Question number one, do you support the
creation of the front range rail system?

Speaker 4 (01:15:25):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:15:26):
Yes, I love it. It's just going to be so good.
It's going to make us just like Europe. In Europe,
you know, you can get on a train and go anywhere,
just anywhere. It's amazing. It's going to make Colorado just
like Europe. And then the follow up question is when
do you plan to use the train the first time?
I bet the answer is, well, I don't know. I

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have no idea, huh. Anyway, so please don't fall for
this that they're gonna come and they're going to ask
us a firm more and more money. And every time
a texture just hit me with this, Coco prefers to
be called t bone. That, my friends, is a phenomenal

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Seinfeld reference. Well played, Mandy. They pulled that number out
of their cho cho hole. Yes, yes they did. They
absolutely did, Mandy. This is just like the I twenty
five expansion. They took our tax dollars to build an
HOV lane that we then have the privilege of paying
for if we want to use it. It says Teresa. Actual,

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I don't know. I'm sure you didn't mean to throw
Teresa in there. Actual traffic on twenty five is not
changed since zero point one percent of drivers actually use
the ho V lane. It's insane, you know what. I
don't have to be in heavy traffic very often because
of my schedule, so I am often like if I
am coming around four to seventy when I come back
from Rechen Revolution, because they're in Nervada, I hop on

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four to seventy and I just swing down that way
and I use the express lane in that situation. And
as I'm driving by everyone who's not driving very quickly
because they probably have to make that drive every single
day and to pay the tolls would be ridiculous, I
just drive by them and I'm like, you're welcome, You're welcome,
You're welcome, You're welcome. One car off the road. It

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is a little insane, the express lane thing. It's really
kind of absurd, Mandy. The FRPR district is so jerrymander
that it will pass. Yes it will. And you know what,
I don't care if they pass it. They can do
what they want. But what I'd like to see happen
is the rest of us who are not in that
district that's going to vote on this. We should be

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able to vote to keep our tax dollars out of it.
Oh sorry, you guys are running short. No general fund
dollars for you, as a matter of fact, no dollars
that don't come from anywhere but that district.

Speaker 9 (01:17:53):
Mandy.

Speaker 3 (01:17:53):
If I ride the train, I will be able to
use these cool roundabouts. Don't hate the roundabout peoples make
traffic so much better once everybody understands how a roundabout works,
which I think we might need, similar to our zipper
merge education from a few years ago, which I feel
is fairly successful. Because driving to my house there's three

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major construction projects. All three of them have a zipper
merged situation. And I will say this, people in Colorado
are starting to understand the zipper merge, and I think
we can get the roundabout thing too. I believe in
us Colorado, you know we love the K pop. Well,
I have to talk about this story because I will
tell you I now have a new favorite K pop band.
They're not new, but my fandom is, and it's BTS BTS.

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If you don't know what k pop is, it's Korean
pop music and it is massively popular worldwide. K pop
has taken pop music by storm. They have all these
girl groups and guide groups and the music is catchy
as all get out and BTS is probably the biggest
of the biggest. They're like the og the of k pop. Well,

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the Grammys have taken notice of the rise of K
pop and this is what happens when left wing people
run awards operations. The Recording Academy announced that it had
new categories for the twenty twenty seven Grammy Awards. One

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of them is for Asian Pop music. BTS came out
on Wednesday. All seven BTS members. You know who they are, rms, Uga, Jahove, Gimian,
the Yu kuk Jin. You know them, I mean we
all know them. They put a note out on Instagram
that said they would not be submitting their comeback album

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or its songs for Grammys, and this is what they said.
We hope our music can be heard and loved for
what it is, rather than being divided by region or language.
According to the rule book, the category recognizes releases across
K pop, jpop, C pop, and beyond, but it put
all Asian pop music into that category.

Speaker 7 (01:20:07):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:20:07):
The Recording Academy has responded by saying artists can submit
in any category and they would love it if they
submitted in the Best Song or Best Album category. But
he added a reminder. The head of the recording agency said,
I do want to clarify something that seems to be
getting lost in the conversation. The Asian Pop category was

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created to celebrate the depth, diversity, and extraordinary growth of
pop artistry coming out of Asia. More categories means more
artist work is recognized. It's never to divide, but to
expand who is recognized by our fifteen thousand Grammy voters.
He added that they could submit into any category. But
here's the thing, you guys, we don't have black pop music.

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We don't have that. I mean, we have pop music
and that's a big category. We don't divide it by
any other ethnicity except this one. So though I have
never in my life, I mean, I'm sure I've heard
a BTS song, but I don't. I'm not gonna get
a T shirt or anything. I did learn the hard
way many years ago not to talk about K pop
on Twitter. It was Twitter at the time. I don't

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remember what the story was, but there was some kind
of kpop story and I put it on Twitter and
I made fun of it, and the BTS army came
for me. It was it was a harrowing three or
four days on Twitter trying to navigate. And here's the thing.
They came for me in the nicest possible ways. It
wasn't like you suck, like you get in a political conversation.
They were like, why don't you like BTS? They're so great?

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Can we recommend some songs so you could really get
a feel for what they're all about. But like hundreds
of messages like that, it was insane. I have never
invoked any group of people in that way, and I've
posted some stuff that's kind of you know, if you
don't follow me on Twitter or my best sarcasm is

(01:22:01):
on Twitter, it's no X of course at Mandy Caddle,
you should follow me there. I will never forget that.
I was like, I am never talking about K pop
on Twitter again because that was just a little much,
and again in the nicest possible way, nothing nasty about it,
nothing mean, nothing mean. But I respect them for wanting
to compete in the pop category, just the pop category,

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because their music is great pop music.

Speaker 9 (01:22:25):
Like it or not.

Speaker 3 (01:22:26):
I mean, you don't have to like it. It is great,
catchy pop music. There are songs that my daughter plays
for me because my daughter's seventeen, and she'll go, oh,
you got to hear this song by so and so,
And now that she's a little bit older, I can
say things like I really like the singer's vocals, but
I think the production does the song of disservice. And
we have like a really complex conversation about pop music

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and lasting pop music, and you know, there are songs
that are going to be kind of perennial pop music
favorites and they're gonna be around for a really long time.
And sometimes I'll listen to one of her pop music
songs and say, that's not one of them. It's fun.
It's like bubblegum. You know it's here today, gone tomorrow,
and you'll hear it again in twenty years and go,
oh my gosh, I forgot about that song. But bts,

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I'm in the army now I'm gonna have to get
some kind of memorabilia something I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:23:16):
I'm good.

Speaker 3 (01:23:16):
I might even go to a concert. I will not
go to a concert. I learned my lesson at the
Olivia Rodrigo concert about going to concerts where there's a
lot of young women who just stand there and scream
like it's the Beatles. The Olivia Rodrigo concert actually gave
me tonightas after twenty something years in radio, oh my gosh,

(01:23:39):
I just realized something. Next year I will have been
in radio for most of thirty years. Did take a
little dip out to sell insurance. But wow, man, dang,
I'm having all these age markers that are messing with
my head. I gotta, I got, I've got to comport myself.
When we get back. Actress Tove fell Show is joining us.

(01:24:01):
She's got a movie coming out. She's going to be
in Crested Butte this weekend. I'm super excited to have
her next in Crested Butte because there is going to
be the Colorado premiere of a new film called Tova
and it is directed and produced by David Serrero, and
it is about a legendary actress. And I shut her
to say, if you're not a Broadway person, maybe Tovah
felts You. Is one of those actresses that you see

(01:24:23):
and go, oh, I like her. You can't remember her name,
but you like her. She is also one of the
stars of one of my favorite shows out right now
on Netflix called Nobody Wants You, and she just sucks
up the oxygen on the show when she appears. And
now she joins me to talk about this new film,
Tovah Felt You and David Serrero, welcome to the program.

Speaker 11 (01:24:46):
Thank you so I thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:24:48):
So I have to ask, because I is it weird, Tova,
that there's a movie about you and yet you're still
walking and talking and performing and acting. So it's not
It's like, you know, I hope someday when I'm long
dead and married, someone will do a lovely biography of me.
But you're still here. So is this weird at all

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to be doing a film about yourself?

Speaker 5 (01:25:11):
Totally weird?

Speaker 11 (01:25:12):
It's wonderful. I'm totally wonderful. When David asked me, I
asked to do a documentary about.

Speaker 12 (01:25:18):
My work and my philanthropic philanthropic work as well, I
actually said, are you talking to me? Because I was
so concerned to make sure that the documentary has universal.

Speaker 11 (01:25:31):
Appeal, which I hope it does.

Speaker 12 (01:25:32):
It's really a documentary about sticking to something, following through,
not giving up, about resilience, and about the quest for excellence.
You know, there are different people have different visions in
their lives, and somewhere in my life and my older brother,
doctor David Felt You, the vision in the Felt You
Household was to be excellent, to give it your best shot,

(01:25:57):
to do the best you could, and the rest would
follow as long as you good relationships with other people.

Speaker 11 (01:26:02):
So I was thrilled there's a documentary.

Speaker 12 (01:26:04):
I have five grandchildren and a standing marriage of fifty years,
so I'm glad there's a piece of me that's going
to be around forever.

Speaker 11 (01:26:11):
And before I'm under any granite, any.

Speaker 12 (01:26:15):
Granite, granite stone that says hopefully, that says I was
a decent human being.

Speaker 3 (01:26:21):
I want to ask you, David, what inspired you? Obviously
you're aware of Tova's long career in her philanthropic work,
but what made you say it's time to make this
movie right now?

Speaker 4 (01:26:30):
Well, it's always a question, you know, of destiny, when
you meet the right person at the right time, and
I felt that, you know, of course I was aware
of Hutova is.

Speaker 10 (01:26:38):
She's a legend.

Speaker 4 (01:26:39):
She's an American treasurer, and she's one of the major
part of the evolution of American theater.

Speaker 1 (01:26:47):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:26:47):
So when you have these legends, you have to question them,
you have to learn from them, you have to celebrate them.
And this movie really is a celebration. So all I
needed was a yes, you know, the three Magic Laters,
And after I said let's do it, let's feel more.

Speaker 5 (01:27:04):
Right away because it was afraship would change your mind,
you know, so.

Speaker 8 (01:27:09):
This might happened.

Speaker 4 (01:27:10):
But she's definitely a treasure and a pleasure to work
with in such an honor to do this movie.

Speaker 10 (01:27:17):
Definitely.

Speaker 3 (01:27:17):
Well, obviously you're well respected because there are some big
names in this film. You've got Dustin Hoffman, You've got
Kristen Bell, who, of course you work with on the
show that I referenced. Nobody wants this but Toba. Throughout
the process, did you ever see something that David put
together and just went, oh, no, that's not right, that's wrong.
We have to we have to fix that. How involved
were you with the actual process of making this film?

Speaker 12 (01:27:38):
Well, I think David's footage was his footage, and he
obviously shot the whole thing. He asked if I had
anybody that I wanted to participate. The first shock was
that I invited these people. I played Dustin Hoffman's wife
in the film Tuner by Daniel Rohrer with Leo Woodall,
whosi who really carries the pictures magnificent? And I asked

(01:28:01):
my colleagues Dustin and Kristen and Adam and my friend
Katie Kouric and Isaac you know, various scar Isaac and various.

Speaker 11 (01:28:12):
Other marvelous actors with whom I have worked. I just
didn't expect them to all say, yes, we were. I
was thrilled. You know, Goldemeyer says.

Speaker 12 (01:28:20):
Goldomeer was the Prime Minister of Israel, and I had
the honor of playing her on Broadway in a piece
by William Gibson, who also wrote The Miracle Worker, called
Goldess Balcony, and it became the longest running one woman
play in the history of Broadway in a hundred years.

Speaker 11 (01:28:35):
But anyway, she says, some people love you, and some
people love you and show up. Well, they showed up
and it made all the difference.

Speaker 12 (01:28:45):
And then David, in his inimitable he probably could work
for the un and finally bring about Middley's piece. David
in his inimitable way and in his incredible what they
say in Germany's kinder Struga that he has manners and decency.
He ran parts of the film in front of me,
of course, and said, you know, is everything okay? And

(01:29:05):
because he is multi lingual, French is his first language,
he speaks English and other languages. There were certain few parts,
very few that didn't quite mesh for the American for
the American dialect, let us say, and he corrected them.

Speaker 11 (01:29:21):
It was very simple. It was a joyous process.

Speaker 12 (01:29:24):
And then I found out he checked with Dustin, he
checked with he checked with the major stars to make
sure that they were happy and happy about being represented.
And the response has been incredibly positive. And then David
was completely in charge of the editing. So if you
enjoy this film and you enjoy the cuts in it,

(01:29:44):
that's David Serrera.

Speaker 4 (01:29:47):
But I want to add that it's also a very
big testament of Dova. When you see all these big
names that usually go through different lawyers, different publicists before
they say yes or anything.

Speaker 5 (01:30:00):
And here they were like for Tova coming my house tomorrow.
You know, it was really really like that.

Speaker 4 (01:30:06):
And also when you know you're making a movie about
Tovah felt you is who I considered one of the
biggest legend of Broadway. I mean, you have to take
her advices and and her corrections, and you know, because
this is also how you grow as a director, is
to really get yourself from this extraordinary individual.

Speaker 3 (01:30:30):
So I would like to ask you, Tova, you've been
how long your careers? What over? I don't want to
say too long, because of course, but it's like a
fifty year career. You've kind of done everything.

Speaker 11 (01:30:42):
How long is your career too long?

Speaker 3 (01:30:45):
Apparently?

Speaker 12 (01:30:47):
Fellowship and acting where they played for my for my
master's degree in theater, and for me to have what's
called journeyman roles, very small roles in different plays. Actually
eleven plays, I had twenty two parts at eleven plays.
My roles were so small, and sirrah No alone the

(01:31:07):
play by rostand. I would come on as an actress, exit,
come on as a boy poet, exit, come.

Speaker 8 (01:31:13):
On as a nun.

Speaker 12 (01:31:13):
I had three of those in one show.

Speaker 11 (01:31:17):
In all events.

Speaker 12 (01:31:18):
I was at the Guthrie in Minneapolis, Minnesota's right after
Sarah Lawrence and became financially independent as a fellowship student.

Speaker 11 (01:31:26):
The McKnight's three m paid for everything. I never asked
my parents for a dime. And then at the end
of two seasons at.

Speaker 12 (01:31:33):
The Guthrie, they were putting together a Broadway musical of
sirrah No, and I was asked to join that company
and I would make my Broadway debut in May of
nineteen seventy three. And before that, I was really a
spear carrier and I had fourteen lines in the Red
Dress and understudied leading ladies at the Guthrie. And within
eighteen months of that debut, unexpectedly and thrillingly, I was

(01:31:57):
on the marquee of the Eugeno Neil Theater where Books
the Mormon now plays in a play by y called
Yental by Isaac Krishev. A singer would then win the
Nobelt Dries in Literature and a piece that Barbara Streisan
would then make into the movie yentl.

Speaker 3 (01:32:13):
It's my understanding that the author of that book preferred
your performance as Yental over Barbara streisand's is that accurate? Mandy?

Speaker 11 (01:32:22):
You do your research.

Speaker 3 (01:32:23):
I like to know things. I like to know things,
so you know, you know you are a New York
based actor, and I feel like every New York based
actor has appeal appeared on Law and Order. But I'm
going to be Honestva, I loved your character on Law
and Order. I was very invested in Law and Order
back in the day, and when your character came on,

(01:32:44):
I knew you were going to give him a fight.
And I always thought to myself, if I ever got
in trouble, I'm calling her like she is going to
be She's not even a real lawyer, but I feel
like she'd be able to handle it. What's the difference
since when you started to how the industry is now,
how it is being a New York actor at this
stage in the game.

Speaker 11 (01:33:02):
Oh, my dear Mandy.

Speaker 12 (01:33:03):
It's a huge difference, both wonderful and astonishing. We were
basically expected to do everything, to sing, to dance. I
actually happen to speak five languages because I have wonderful
parents and had a wonderful education.

Speaker 11 (01:33:18):
But everything I've played, everything from Catherine Happened to.

Speaker 12 (01:33:21):
Three Queens of Henry the Eighth and only lately. And
this system includes people of color. It includes my beloved
Adam Brody, who plays my son. Within the last ten years,
silo ing has begun, and silo ing is. If you
see Atova felt you you figure, well, she's Orthodox, she's

(01:33:43):
Israeli and she's European. I am neither Orthodox. I'm a
pro shudo eating juice. And if you don't believe me,
just watch. Nobody wants to say I am not Orthodox
and I'm family has been in this country from Vienna
and from Germany and Russia and England for undred and
twenty five years.

Speaker 11 (01:34:01):
We arrived in nineteen oh one.

Speaker 12 (01:34:03):
So I had been playing tremendous Jewish matriarchs for the
last really, I would say for the last decade, and
not all the time, but eighty percent of the time.

Speaker 11 (01:34:14):
And I had a much wider splay order for my work.
I was much more of a Chinese menu in the
old days.

Speaker 12 (01:34:22):
However, I have been invited to play doctor Ruth west Timer,
doctor luthuest Timer is so optimistic even the NSFL sentences
went up. I doctored with the sex therapist Ruth Bader
Ginsburg and Golden Ear.

Speaker 11 (01:34:35):
So when you're asked to do those three things, plus
I've played Leona Helmsey, a billionaire, a real.

Speaker 12 (01:34:41):
Estate very controversial real estate figure who was a very
big rival of Donald Trump's back in the sixties and
the seventies. In all events, the menu for the matriarchs
I've been asked to play ain't been bad. You know,
it ain't been bad. And I'm happy to represent. I mean,
I'm an American like you. I love my country. I

(01:35:04):
love my country. But if I need to defend my
particular birthright, let us say with my particular religious what
I was the religion I was born into. It's a
pleasure to do so, particularly in this troubled world.

Speaker 3 (01:35:22):
I have to tell you, I was talking to my
husband about how excited I was to interview you today,
and he said, I was telling him about nobody wants
this because I watched it on a plane of Japan
season one, and then as soon as season two came out,
I watched I binge watched the whole thing, and the
thing I told him that I loved about that show.
I said, You've got to know about the Sharcuterie Tray arc,

(01:35:42):
like the whole arc of the story. There was so
much told. And the fact that you just called yourself
a Protido eatings you just really warms my heart to
know because that whole entire segment or that episode with
that was so wildly entertaining. David, I want to ask
you one more question before we go, and that's simple.
You when in his director and producer, did you have

(01:36:02):
a vision of what you wanted to show people about
Toba felt you when you started this and what was
that vision if you had it?

Speaker 4 (01:36:11):
Well, you're absolutely right, Well we say in your question
is the answer because if you have a vision of
the movie, that means you can see.

Speaker 5 (01:36:18):
The movie before.

Speaker 4 (01:36:20):
And that's what I love about documentaries is that it's
the most human theatrical experience because you cannot do two
takes of it. If you have your filming that someone
who goes in front of the grave of his parents
and says to the grave everything he had in his mind,
you cannot do two takes.

Speaker 7 (01:36:38):
Of it, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:36:39):
So I love the spontaneity that we can find in it.
So basically I plunged myself into her world, into her story,
and the world of Toba is one of the most
beautiful world ever and you want.

Speaker 5 (01:36:55):
To cherish it.

Speaker 4 (01:36:56):
And yeah, and her story, you know, is lessons and
that you can succeed your life, not just your career,
but succeed your life.

Speaker 5 (01:37:06):
And that that's what she brings.

Speaker 4 (01:37:08):
She brings joy around the world, and she's the definition
of work ethices and exactly like you, my dear Mandy.

Speaker 12 (01:37:18):
May I say before you go sure we Tova debuts
today at five point thirty the Drink starts and six
thirty The Dinner starts at three four sixty six Wildcat
Trail and Crestibute three four sixty six Wildcat Trail in
Crestibute and one of the most exquisite mountain homes I've
ever been in in my entire life, which has its

(01:37:38):
own venue attached to its land. So I come enjoy
the fire pit and the glory of this home and
come celebrate Tova with us.

Speaker 3 (01:37:48):
Well, I can't wait to see it. I hope it's
on a streaming platform very very soon. I'm in Denver
obviously can't make it a crust of but tonight Buttova
Felt You. Thank you so much. When is the next
season and nobody wants this coming out? You better tell
me it's been renewed or I'm going to have to
write a stern email.

Speaker 12 (01:38:03):
Season three is coming out October November, and then according
to the powers that be, we are hoping to start
season four. Yeah to get the official but we were
hoping to start season four end of February. We start
filming it and it will be done sometime in Maju.

Speaker 3 (01:38:20):
The show is an absolute delight. I'm sure that Tova,
the movie by David Serrera about Tovah Felt You, is
also a delight. Thank you both so much for being
here today, and best of luck. I'm going to keep
my eyes peel on streaming, David, so let me know
when I can see it there.

Speaker 4 (01:38:32):
Absolutely, you would have a private link just for you.

Speaker 11 (01:38:36):
And you're a star, oh, totally a researching star of
bless you.

Speaker 3 (01:38:41):
Well, it's just because I said you were better than Barbara.
I get it. It's fun to she's a friend.

Speaker 8 (01:38:46):
Be careful.

Speaker 3 (01:38:48):
Thank you so much, guys, thank you here you too,
Bye bye. All right, that was awesome.

Speaker 8 (01:38:56):
I just tuned in. Was that Arnold Schwartzmaker, No, that was.

Speaker 3 (01:38:59):
David Serrera, the friend direct her. I mean we all
just like we could just all I should have someone
with an accent on every every show looks like some
other accent. Because really, Rick, if you hear an accent,
you immediately go, oh, they must be smart.

Speaker 8 (01:39:14):
They do so well they do.

Speaker 3 (01:39:15):
They're just like, oh, they're not American roobs. They must
be smart. A lot of times they're not.

Speaker 8 (01:39:19):
Just like, when I put glasses on, that's your al
three ego. If people think I'm smart because I'm wearing glasses.

Speaker 3 (01:39:25):
Yeah, that's Rick Luis. By the way, I didn't actually
introduce you there. No, that was Tova Fel to you.
She's one of those actresses that you don't know her name,
but then you see her and go oh her. But
she's part of Nobody Wants This, which is a show
on NETS week.

Speaker 5 (01:39:39):
The guy we're hearing right now, the guy from the
Rick Lewis Project, you.

Speaker 3 (01:39:42):
Know what it is, and the Rick Lewis Show.

Speaker 6 (01:39:44):
Oh I know, Okay, okay, I have sixty seconds. How
good did Ryan really do?

Speaker 8 (01:39:49):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:39:50):
Tell us the truth.

Speaker 13 (01:39:50):
We'll be talking about this after the three o'clock, but
I'll tell you this. He he did surprisingly well.

Speaker 5 (01:39:59):
P So you have a low bar.

Speaker 13 (01:40:02):
Yeah, there's a low bar. He hasn't he hasn't performed
flannel every day.

Speaker 3 (01:40:06):
How good can he be? I mean, he's not Eddie Vedder.

Speaker 7 (01:40:08):
You know.

Speaker 8 (01:40:09):
Well, here's another little thing.

Speaker 13 (01:40:10):
He did wear flannel to this performance, and it was
like a hundred degrees outside.

Speaker 3 (01:40:15):
That is Ryan's that's his body, that's his uniform, you.

Speaker 1 (01:40:19):
Know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:40:20):
So he's got a look like Elton John has his thing.
Ryan Edwards has plannel.

Speaker 8 (01:40:24):
That's right.

Speaker 3 (01:40:25):
It's a little different.

Speaker 8 (01:40:26):
He owns it.

Speaker 3 (01:40:27):
Not totally different anyway, But.

Speaker 8 (01:40:30):
Listening after three and he did he did good? Nice,
did good?

Speaker 3 (01:40:34):
All right, And now it's time for the most exciting
segment on the radio. Oven's gun. Now you yell in
the world, then you can tell Rick's the drummer Ryan
Ryan crushes in the world like it's like job, you

(01:40:57):
didn't break job, all right, but Ryan x level. Oh yeah,
he's really he's really the he's the he's the he's
like the typical the conversation time. What is our dad
joke of the day? Please?

Speaker 5 (01:41:12):
Did you hear the news about twelve inch rulers?

Speaker 7 (01:41:15):
No?

Speaker 5 (01:41:15):
What, You're not making them any longer.

Speaker 3 (01:41:20):
I thought you were going to say, something's afoot?

Speaker 9 (01:41:22):
Get it?

Speaker 3 (01:41:24):
Thank you, secondary dad joke? Thank you very much. What
is our wounded to day?

Speaker 6 (01:41:29):
Please?

Speaker 5 (01:41:29):
It's an adjective, okay, sultry.

Speaker 3 (01:41:32):
Sultry means kind of sexy, kind of serious, kind of
kind of humid.

Speaker 5 (01:41:42):
You think of, is it humid, very hot and humid?

Speaker 3 (01:41:44):
Yeah, okay, remember the scene and Body Heat. Remember the
movie Body were William Hurt and Kathleen Turner in the
bathtub and they're dropping ice cubes in. I was like,
that is the first time in a movie you've ever
captured what it's like being in Florida in August in
it stands up to this day. I thought maybe a
year and a half ago. I downloaded it for a

(01:42:05):
trip and I was like, dude's still so good, so good,
Kathleen Turner, were so hot anyway.

Speaker 8 (01:42:10):
Really hot.

Speaker 3 (01:42:11):
Today's trivia question, what is the largest flying bird species
in North America. I'm gonna get the condor. Those things are.

Speaker 6 (01:42:20):
Huge, aero dactyl, paradactyl. Let's pretend it still exists.

Speaker 3 (01:42:24):
The pterodactyl is incorrect, Rick, I know part of the game. Yeah,
this part of the game largest asking No, I'm asking you.
I went with condor, and I am correct. I'm just
gonna give it to you the condor. Condor is having
a wingspan of ten feet. They're massive. There used to

(01:42:46):
be one on a on a light pole in a
target parking lot in Florida, and it took off over
my head one time, and I swear to god, I
thought it was a pterodactyl. I was like, I'm being
attacked by a dragon or a condor.

Speaker 8 (01:42:58):
You don't see him around here, do you.

Speaker 3 (01:43:00):
I don't know if we have condors here.

Speaker 8 (01:43:02):
I don't think so.

Speaker 3 (01:43:03):
I'm not sure. I'm not in the bird watching phase
of life just yet. I got a couple more years
before I hit that, so I've already got binocular going
to Alaska tomorrow, so of course we have to happen anyway.
What's our jeopardy category.

Speaker 11 (01:43:17):
On the Advisive Council?

Speaker 5 (01:43:19):
Thank you? Okay, just kidding. Category is the idioms go
that away?

Speaker 3 (01:43:23):
The idioms go that away?

Speaker 5 (01:43:26):
I like these.

Speaker 6 (01:43:28):
This phrase describes a plane flying load to evade enemy detection.

Speaker 3 (01:43:34):
What is under the ring?

Speaker 5 (01:43:35):
Yes and correct yes, meaning somewhat liberal.

Speaker 6 (01:43:39):
This three word phrase describes how you've moved from the median.

Speaker 5 (01:43:46):
I think politics. I know for the median three I
don't know one left of center.

Speaker 8 (01:43:54):
Oh, okay, that's what It's a little obvious.

Speaker 6 (01:43:58):
I know while tu being down river, you do this,
which can also be a rhyming idiom for accepting a situation.

Speaker 8 (01:44:06):
Quick.

Speaker 6 (01:44:09):
Yeah, there's a member of genus genus corvus in this phrase.
That means in a straight line. Wait what just just
think bird like? What you're you talking about?

Speaker 3 (01:44:23):
What is as the crow fly?

Speaker 5 (01:44:25):
Correct?

Speaker 8 (01:44:26):
Good?

Speaker 6 (01:44:26):
One. Tennyson gave a poem about a fairy trip. This
title now an idiom for dying. I've never heard this one.

Speaker 3 (01:44:36):
Tennyson poem about a fairy I I got nothing, I
crossing the bar oh, I've never heard that.

Speaker 8 (01:44:47):
I don't think it's a tough category.

Speaker 3 (01:44:48):
You got it's Oh I won, god barely.

Speaker 8 (01:44:53):
It was Oh I got to and that first one
I had can.

Speaker 3 (01:44:58):
Jump in quick enough. You're gonna be around for ka sports.
I'm guessing because you brought trail mix. Didn't just come
in for this.

Speaker 8 (01:45:05):
I bring trail mix. I think I bring snacks for
Dave Logan.

Speaker 5 (01:45:08):
You know what, are you letting her kick your ass again?

Speaker 8 (01:45:10):
She didn't kick as it was a fair fight.

Speaker 3 (01:45:12):
It was actually it was a fair fight. One.

Speaker 5 (01:45:15):
But it was a fair fight.

Speaker 3 (01:45:16):
No, no, it's not. And ask kicking as five to zero.
This was two to one. He did a fine job,
Dave Logan.

Speaker 8 (01:45:22):
It's a win.

Speaker 3 (01:45:24):
It's a moral victory for Rick though. Okay, yeah, day,
there's a chair right there for you for of the day,
anytime you're ready to play. But we'll make room for you.

Speaker 8 (01:45:35):
Oh you know what, we're out of time.

Speaker 3 (01:45:37):
Yeah, all right, I'll be back tomorrow and I'm gonna
have short timers real bad, so you might have to
tune in for that. Keep it right here on ko

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