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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I am an unabashed lover of cruises that are like
little tasting menus of destinations that you can go back
to you later. You can find the places you'd like
to revisit and not go back to the places you don't.
But one of the things I love about cruise ships
is that you're in close quarters with a lot of
other people. And when you are trying to grab breakfast
at the buffet before excursion day and it's a madhouse,
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you will look for any two seats, any port in
the storm. You will sit down next to people you
do not know, and inevitably you will strike up a conversation.
And this happened over and over and over again on
the ship, and I started to realize that one of
the reasons it happened over and over and over again
on the ship is because a lot of people don't
buy the Wi Fi package, so they don't have their phones.
(00:42):
So here you are just sitting You may have your
phone because you used to take pictures of the random
whale that's going to come off here, but you're not
on your phone. And what ends up happening is you
start chatting with the people around you. I talk to
people from Britain, I talk to people from Whales, and
I talk to people from Ireland. I talked to two
incredible women from a On who I asked, I said, oh,
(01:02):
do you still have family in Iran? And that started
an entire conversation where they went on and on and
on about how grateful they were to the United States
and Israel for trying to destroy the regime which had
made them flee their home country many many years prior.
But when you talk to people, you find out interesting
stories and things that they love, and I absolutely love it.
And I decided to talk about this when I got back,
(01:25):
about the fact that we are so used to picking
up our phones and moments of boredom that we no
longer have these random conversations with people. And then my
friend Jonathan Flora, who's got a substack, happened to write
a column on exactly that thing. So my friend Jonathan
Flora is joining us to talk about it. But I
(01:46):
got to talk about the story of how you met
my husband first, Jonathan, because he is like you, he
will talk to everyone, and real quickly I met Jonathan's
husband Deborah, who you guys of course know because she
fills in for me, and she's my show partner on
the Mandy and deb Show. I met Deborah at an
event and I just I loved her. I went home
(02:07):
and told my husband, I said, I met this woman
and I want to be her friend. How do you
even do that as an adult?
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Like?
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Do you just like doing the kids playground?
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Like?
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Will you be my friend? I just I was super awkward.
And then I realized I lost her card. So now
not only have I met this woman I want to
be friends with, I've lost her card. Big disaster. I'm like, ah, whatever, okay, fine.
Fast forward like two weeks later, Chuck and I are
having breakfast at a place that we have breakfast at
a lot and in walks a guy with an Ohio
University shirt on, and Chuck gives him a nod. Ohio
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University fans all must connect when they see each other
in public. They must. It's in the charter of the school.
You must say hello to other Bobcats. So as we
were getting ready to leave, Chuck said, I'm gonna go
talk to the guy in the OU shirt. I said, fine,
I'm going to the truck. I walk out, I get
in the truck. Because this is a regular occurrence. It
could be ours. I don't know how long it's going
to take. Chuck comes down to the truck and goes, hey,
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remember that woman that the other night. I was like, yeah,
I goes, that's her husband. So I leap out of
the truck and I run in and I'm like, oh
my god, I love your wife. Please tell me how
to get in touch with her. But that was Jonathan,
and that just came about because my husband struck up
a conversation with someone who hadn't Ohio University shirt, something
Jonathan Flora does as well, and that is what she
(03:19):
wrote this column about. What inspired this column at this moment, Jonathan.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Well, you know, it's just because I do this all
the time, and that's a great example what Chuck did.
In fact, as I was thinking today, I think I
know what my next column is. I've got a few
that are percolating and it's going to be Do you
ever notice how T shirts are history books?
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Oh? Yeah, T shirt has a story behind it. It
tells something.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
It's a it's a personality sign of who I am,
what I like like. One of the stories I also
mentioned in that column was I'm in a bar in Nashville,
and I've got mcguffee lane on probably twelve people have
heard of McGuffey.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Lane outside of Ohio.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
They were Ohio midway in Indiana and this person talks
to me. We start talking and I go, yeah, I've
got a buddy of mine back in Colorado that he
actually lived in Athens.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
What's his name, Chuck? Chuck used to work for me
back in the day. So the rule got real small,
real cricks. Of course, we had to take a selfie
and send it to us. But you know, to me,
it is something that's going on in society.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Like you said, we're buried in our palm of our
hand with that apparatus called the phone. People, I mean,
people will walk into other people with that phone, and
there are so many stories that we're missing. If you
will just stand up and just say hey, you know,
and next thing you know, you're chatting about something. It
could be thirty seconds to talk about nothing. It could
(04:44):
be that story that I've shared a million times in
my son when he was a little weird in Walmart
and this guy was talking to me. I noticed this
wicked gash scar across his hand, and I have no
problem asking anybody anything. How'd you get that Vietnam sixty
eight walking point and Va came out machety. I grabbed that,
pulled it aside and shot him with my sidearm. I
(05:06):
look down at Benjamin, who's like six ago. Dude, we're
standing next to a hero.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
I look back up. The guys tear them out. Yeah,
I was trying.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
So you never know what somebody's carrying with them, what
kind of story they've got to tell. But it's like
you when you said Chuck had be gone for hours.
My wife knows that too. She can go to the restroom,
she comes out. I know three generations where they're going,
they were married before this woman, and where their kids are.
I mean, it's easy to do.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
But you know, here's the thing, Jonathan, I think that
so many people are afraid of being invasive. They're afraid
of asking the wrong question, they're afraid of saying the
wrong thing. And to that, I just respond, people love
to talk about themselves, and if you go in and
you are intellectually curiosity curious about other people. We've had
(05:57):
this British couple on the cruise ship, so we're just
chatting back and forth. It's a pleasant, and this guy
tells and this may have been like a soft hit
on us, I don't know, but he's like, yeah, my
brother in law told me I should get a shirt
with an upside down pineapple and I got it. But
he was wearing it under hit because that's like the
code for swingers. And he was very proud to show
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us his his pineapple shirt. He was wearing it for
that one day to take a picture off the ship
to send to his brother in law who told him
he should do this. But it was just a really
funny story, and it told me a lot about his
brother in law, who sounded like a cheeky monkey, you know.
And his wife was just eye rolling the entire time,
and it was it was just those funny, little stupid
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moments that are so insignificant but greatly increase your happiness
in life, you know what I mean, Just knowing that
there's other people out there that are funny and kind
and you can have those very quick interactions and you
walk away in a better mood because of it.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Absolutely, and this is much for you as candy for them.
And often life presents the unexpected story like the one
I was talking about. There was this guy in the airport,
and just something seeing something stirred in me. It just
I mean, it wasn't like he's wearing a shirt or
a hat or did some funny just something compelled me
to want to go over.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
So I go and stand next to him and try.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Not to be too creepy, al right, like, okay, you know,
I don't have my upside down pineapple shirt on, you know,
whatever it might be. And he starts telling me he's
on the way to San Antonio the bury, his son
was just committed suicide. I just let him talk and talk,
and all I could do was not And at the
end he actually, you know, gave me a kind of
(07:40):
a hug and said thanks, I really needed that.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
And I go, dude, I'll just be thinking about you
and praying about you.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
And so it was a therapy session for like five minutes.
And there's other times where just something funny happens. They're
either wearing something or off cracking joke. Worst thing that
can happen. They give you the stink guy.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
And you walk away exactly. You know, what, how'd you
like to be his wife?
Speaker 3 (08:01):
Yeah, you know, the bigger issue than just this moment
right now.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
But most people. There's this great poem I forget by
the guy.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
But Walt Garrison was their running back to the Dallas
Cowboys back in the sixties, tough as nail guy, and
he does this poem called people are Funny Critters. And
if you watch that, it's like about a minute and
ten seconds long. He recites the entire poem. I go,
that's humanity right there. He covered like every kind of
(08:29):
spectacle and spectrum of who we are. And people are
are funny critters. And as writers, you know they're a
great source of material.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
But ultimately, Jonathan, one of the problems I think we
have is that we are so physically disconnected from one
another that we've forgotten how to be decent people because
we're projecting that everyone else is a horrible person, that
everyone else is a jerk, that everyone else is an
a hole. And when you go into the world expecting
(08:58):
that and then you get kind of back. You get
a guy who just wanders over to you in your
worst moment and ask if you're okay. It goes a
long way to restoring your faith in humanity. Overall, every
pleasant interaction it's like a little little boost for our engine.
You know what I mean, it's a little more gas
in the tank of humanity. And I think that now
(09:18):
that we all have our phones, we're missing all of
these funny, incidental comments, stories, whatever that we would otherwise
be having. And I don't know, other than just saying
get off your damn phone, which you do pretty well
in this in this column, I don't know what else
to do unless we just are become those people that
(09:39):
start conversations with everyone even if they're on their phone.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Yeah. Absolutely, I've done this before in elevators whatever.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Two people on phones, they probably don't know each other,
and I'm like, might just talk to each other instead
of texting? You get a little chuckle next to you know,
we're talking. Yeah, I agree with you. You know, whether
people are in a bad mood or they're just like,
I don't want to be bothered, t how to want
to bother somebody else.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Some people are waiting to get bothered, you know. With that.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
But the generation of our children and even the generation
before that, they don't even know how to talk to
their friends in person, let.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Alone a stranger.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
That art form is gone, and we just need to
try to find a way to bring that back and
that's what I love what you and Devora do on
your show, your acts of kindness. I wave to people
now on the freeway because of you, guys.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
I learned that a long time ago.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
There's times you just wanted to chase that person down
and you'll you'll risk getting in a wreck so you
can flip them off or do whatever.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
By the time I go, what a jerk do that?
I'm over it. Yep.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
And then when you let somebody else and it would
be saying, okay, you should have emerged way back there.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Whatever you wave, you see, they wave back. Life's good.
Just put a little bit more out there.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
You brought up younger generations. I read an article yesterday
actually on the way home, but they're now I'm trying
not to laugh about this because it really is kind
of a tragic situation that or this is necessary. There
are no classes for gen z to teach them to
have a telephone conversation because they don't have telephone conversations
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and they're so freaked out by the concept of talking
to someone that they don't know on the phone. You
want to know one of the reasons we have such
an anxious generation, as Jonathan hate so aptly named this
generation because they don't have enough human interaction, and I
mean real face to face human interaction where you begin
to understand a couple of things. Number One, most people
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are pretty dang good and pretty cool and pretty happy
to have a conversation with you. And number two, you
might not be for everyone, and that's okay, you know.
To your point, it's like, you know, if you're gonna
get cursed out by someone who because you're kind to them,
you're not their kind of person, and that's okay, But I'm.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Probably never gonna see him again the rest of my.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Life, exactly, you know, exactly.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
But you brought up a great point. We had.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
One of our kids was talking and there's something going
on with the relationship and we're like.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Well, you just need to talk to him because I
do be texts every morning. That's not talking.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Correct.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
They don't get the concept that texting is not it's communicating,
but it's not talking. And then there's nothing like in
person talking to besides face timing.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Well, yes, I mean in person talking is bar superior
as a means of getting along. I just love the
column Jonathan Wright. How old are you publishing?
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Now?
Speaker 1 (12:25):
What are you writing every week.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
I get I get it, maybe a couple out a week.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
Right now, I'm neck deep in our nine to eleven
special that I can't wait for Devor Night to talk to.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
You about novel on nine to eleven. But so it
slowed me down a little bit. But I'm not pretty
weekly or maybe sometimes twice a week.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Well, I will share those because Jonathan, unlike me, he
writes interesting and fun stuff, not just you know, stuff
that will make your head explode and your blood boil.
You can find his subjects.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Of WNBA's doing that to me. Now, I listened to
your last hour.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
If they want to be on the show today, I
can't wait to talk about this. I want to add
something to your thing though, talking about guys coming in. Yeah,
if you're in the G League, which is the next
level to the NBA, average salaries forty thousand a year,
average salary to WNBA. Now, because of Kate Lenclark five
hundred thousand dollars a year, you think people are going
(13:18):
to men are going to jump from the G League
to the WNBA make ten times what they're making right now.
If that door gets open and we're watching the WNBA
destroy themselves in real.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Time, right in front of us. Did you sorry I
still jump in your combo?
Speaker 1 (13:31):
No, we were talking about the last hour of people
missed it. I've got a great column by my friend
David Strom on the blog today at mandyblog dot com
about it. No, the WNBA is exactly what happens when
women run everything. I hate to say it, but you
got a bunch of like angry people who are down
with the patriarchy and white women or whatever. I can't
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even they are. They're consuming themselves and it's sad because
women have fought so long to have this opportunity. They
finally have an opportunity to make decent money. The league
is healthier than it's been and they're going to destroy
it because they're all self interested jerks. But anyway, Jonathan Flora,
good to see you again, my friend. I'll see you soon.
(14:12):
Tell your wife is thanks for having me. I still
love her as much as that first time I met her.
All right, Jonathan, I'll talk to you later, right,
I am an unabashed lover of cruises that are like
little tasting menus of destinations that you can go back
to you later. You can find the places you'd like
to revisit and not go back to the places you don't.
But one of the things I love about cruise ships
is that you're in close quarters with a lot of
other people. And when you are trying to grab breakfast
at the buffet before excursion day and it's a madhouse,
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you will look for any two seats, any port in
the storm. You will sit down next to people you
do not know, and inevitably you will strike up a conversation.
And this happened over and over and over again on
the ship, and I started to realize that one of
the reasons it happened over and over and over again
on the ship is because a lot of people don't
buy the Wi Fi package, so they don't have their phones.
(00:42):
So here you are just sitting You may have your
phone because you used to take pictures of the random
whale that's going to come off here, but you're not
on your phone. And what ends up happening is you
start chatting with the people around you. I talk to
people from Britain, I talk to people from Whales, and
I talk to people from Ireland. I talked to two
incredible women from a On who I asked, I said, oh,
(01:02):
do you still have family in Iran? And that started
an entire conversation where they went on and on and
on about how grateful they were to the United States
and Israel for trying to destroy the regime which had
made them flee their home country many many years prior.
But when you talk to people, you find out interesting
stories and things that they love, and I absolutely love it.
And I decided to talk about this when I got back,
(01:25):
about the fact that we are so used to picking
up our phones and moments of boredom that we no
longer have these random conversations with people. And then my
friend Jonathan Flora, who's got a substack, happened to write
a column on exactly that thing. So my friend Jonathan
Flora is joining us to talk about it. But I
(01:46):
got to talk about the story of how you met
my husband first, Jonathan, because he is like you, he
will talk to everyone, and real quickly I met Jonathan's
husband Deborah, who you guys of course know because she
fills in for me, and she's my show partner on
the Mandy and deb Show. I met Deborah at an
event and I just I loved her. I went home
(02:07):
and told my husband, I said, I met this woman
and I want to be her friend. How do you
even do that as an adult?
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Like?
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Do you just like doing the kids playground?
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Like?
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Will you be my friend? I just I was super awkward.
And then I realized I lost her card. So now
not only have I met this woman I want to
be friends with, I've lost her card. Big disaster. I'm like, ah, whatever, okay, fine.
Fast forward like two weeks later, Chuck and I are
having breakfast at a place that we have breakfast at
a lot and in walks a guy with an Ohio
University shirt on, and Chuck gives him a nod. Ohio
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University fans all must connect when they see each other
in public. They must. It's in the charter of the school.
You must say hello to other Bobcats. So as we
were getting ready to leave, Chuck said, I'm gonna go
talk to the guy in the OU shirt. I said, fine,
I'm going to the truck. I walk out, I get
in the truck. Because this is a regular occurrence. It
could be ours. I don't know how long it's going
to take. Chuck comes down to the truck and goes, hey,
(02:59):
remember that woman that the other night. I was like, yeah,
I goes, that's her husband. So I leap out of
the truck and I run in and I'm like, oh
my god, I love your wife. Please tell me how
to get in touch with her. But that was Jonathan,
and that just came about because my husband struck up
a conversation with someone who hadn't Ohio University shirt, something
Jonathan Flora does as well, and that is what she
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wrote this column about. What inspired this column at this moment, Jonathan.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Well, you know, it's just because I do this all
the time, and that's a great example what Chuck did.
In fact, as I was thinking today, I think I
know what my next column is. I've got a few
that are percolating and it's going to be Do you
ever notice how T shirts are history books?
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Oh? Yeah, T shirt has a story behind it. It
tells something.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
It's a it's a personality sign of who I am,
what I like like. One of the stories I also
mentioned in that column was I'm in a bar in Nashville,
and I've got mcguffee lane on probably twelve people have
heard of McGuffey.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Lane outside of Ohio.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
They were Ohio midway in Indiana and this person talks
to me. We start talking and I go, yeah, I've
got a buddy of mine back in Colorado that he
actually lived in Athens.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
What's his name, Chuck? Chuck used to work for me
back in the day. So the rule got real small,
real cricks. Of course, we had to take a selfie
and send it to us. But you know, to me,
it is something that's going on in society.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Like you said, we're buried in our palm of our
hand with that apparatus called the phone. People, I mean,
people will walk into other people with that phone, and
there are so many stories that we're missing. If you
will just stand up and just say hey, you know,
and next thing you know, you're chatting about something. It
could be thirty seconds to talk about nothing. It could
(04:44):
be that story that I've shared a million times in
my son when he was a little weird in Walmart
and this guy was talking to me. I noticed this
wicked gash scar across his hand, and I have no
problem asking anybody anything. How'd you get that Vietnam sixty
eight walking point and Va came out machety. I grabbed that,
pulled it aside and shot him with my sidearm. I
(05:06):
look down at Benjamin, who's like six ago. Dude, we're
standing next to a hero.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
I look back up. The guys tear them out. Yeah,
I was trying.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
So you never know what somebody's carrying with them, what
kind of story they've got to tell. But it's like
you when you said Chuck had be gone for hours.
My wife knows that too. She can go to the restroom,
she comes out. I know three generations where they're going,
they were married before this woman, and where their kids are.
I mean, it's easy to do.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
But you know, here's the thing, Jonathan, I think that
so many people are afraid of being invasive. They're afraid
of asking the wrong question, they're afraid of saying the
wrong thing. And to that, I just respond, people love
to talk about themselves, and if you go in and
you are intellectually curiosity curious about other people. We've had
(05:57):
this British couple on the cruise ship, so we're just
chatting back and forth. It's a pleasant, and this guy
tells and this may have been like a soft hit
on us, I don't know, but he's like, yeah, my
brother in law told me I should get a shirt
with an upside down pineapple and I got it. But
he was wearing it under hit because that's like the
code for swingers. And he was very proud to show
(06:18):
us his his pineapple shirt. He was wearing it for
that one day to take a picture off the ship
to send to his brother in law who told him
he should do this. But it was just a really
funny story, and it told me a lot about his
brother in law, who sounded like a cheeky monkey, you know.
And his wife was just eye rolling the entire time,
and it was it was just those funny, little stupid
(06:39):
moments that are so insignificant but greatly increase your happiness
in life, you know what I mean, Just knowing that
there's other people out there that are funny and kind
and you can have those very quick interactions and you
walk away in a better mood because of it.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Absolutely, and this is much for you as candy for them.
And often life presents the unexpected story like the one
I was talking about. There was this guy in the airport,
and just something seeing something stirred in me. It just
I mean, it wasn't like he's wearing a shirt or
a hat or did some funny just something compelled me
to want to go over.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
So I go and stand next to him and try.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Not to be too creepy, al right, like, okay, you know,
I don't have my upside down pineapple shirt on, you know,
whatever it might be. And he starts telling me he's
on the way to San Antonio the bury, his son
was just committed suicide. I just let him talk and talk,
and all I could do was not And at the
end he actually, you know, gave me a kind of
(07:40):
a hug and said thanks, I really needed that.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
And I go, dude, I'll just be thinking about you
and praying about you.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
And so it was a therapy session for like five minutes.
And there's other times where just something funny happens. They're
either wearing something or off cracking joke. Worst thing that
can happen. They give you the stink guy.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
And you walk away exactly. You know, what, how'd you
like to be his wife?
Speaker 3 (08:01):
Yeah, you know, the bigger issue than just this moment
right now.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
But most people. There's this great poem I forget by
the guy.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
But Walt Garrison was their running back to the Dallas
Cowboys back in the sixties, tough as nail guy, and
he does this poem called people are Funny Critters. And
if you watch that, it's like about a minute and
ten seconds long. He recites the entire poem. I go,
that's humanity right there. He covered like every kind of
(08:29):
spectacle and spectrum of who we are. And people are
are funny critters. And as writers, you know they're a
great source of material.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
But ultimately, Jonathan, one of the problems I think we
have is that we are so physically disconnected from one
another that we've forgotten how to be decent people because
we're projecting that everyone else is a horrible person, that
everyone else is a jerk, that everyone else is an
a hole. And when you go into the world expecting
(08:58):
that and then you get kind of back. You get
a guy who just wanders over to you in your
worst moment and ask if you're okay. It goes a
long way to restoring your faith in humanity. Overall, every
pleasant interaction it's like a little little boost for our engine.
You know what I mean, it's a little more gas
in the tank of humanity. And I think that now
(09:18):
that we all have our phones, we're missing all of
these funny, incidental comments, stories, whatever that we would otherwise
be having. And I don't know, other than just saying
get off your damn phone, which you do pretty well
in this in this column, I don't know what else
to do unless we just are become those people that
(09:39):
start conversations with everyone even if they're on their phone.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Yeah. Absolutely, I've done this before in elevators whatever.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Two people on phones, they probably don't know each other,
and I'm like, might just talk to each other instead
of texting? You get a little chuckle next to you know,
we're talking. Yeah, I agree with you. You know, whether
people are in a bad mood or they're just like,
I don't want to be bothered, t how to want
to bother somebody else.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Some people are waiting to get bothered, you know. With that.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
But the generation of our children and even the generation
before that, they don't even know how to talk to
their friends in person, let.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Alone a stranger.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
That art form is gone, and we just need to
try to find a way to bring that back and
that's what I love what you and Devora do on
your show, your acts of kindness. I wave to people
now on the freeway because of you, guys.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
I learned that a long time ago.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
There's times you just wanted to chase that person down
and you'll you'll risk getting in a wreck so you
can flip them off or do whatever.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
By the time I go, what a jerk do that?
I'm over it. Yep.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
And then when you let somebody else and it would
be saying, okay, you should have emerged way back there.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Whatever you wave, you see, they wave back. Life's good.
Just put a little bit more out there.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
You brought up younger generations. I read an article yesterday
actually on the way home, but they're now I'm trying
not to laugh about this because it really is kind
of a tragic situation that or this is necessary. There
are no classes for gen z to teach them to
have a telephone conversation because they don't have telephone conversations
(11:11):
and they're so freaked out by the concept of talking
to someone that they don't know on the phone. You
want to know one of the reasons we have such
an anxious generation, as Jonathan hate so aptly named this
generation because they don't have enough human interaction, and I
mean real face to face human interaction where you begin
to understand a couple of things. Number One, most people
(11:34):
are pretty dang good and pretty cool and pretty happy
to have a conversation with you. And number two, you
might not be for everyone, and that's okay, you know.
To your point, it's like, you know, if you're gonna
get cursed out by someone who because you're kind to them,
you're not their kind of person, and that's okay, But I'm.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Probably never gonna see him again the rest of my.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Life, exactly, you know, exactly.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
But you brought up a great point. We had.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
One of our kids was talking and there's something going
on with the relationship and we're like.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Well, you just need to talk to him because I
do be texts every morning. That's not talking.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Correct.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
They don't get the concept that texting is not it's communicating,
but it's not talking. And then there's nothing like in
person talking to besides face timing.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Well, yes, I mean in person talking is bar superior
as a means of getting along. I just love the
column Jonathan Wright. How old are you publishing?
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Now?
Speaker 1 (12:25):
What are you writing every week.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
I get I get it, maybe a couple out a week.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
Right now, I'm neck deep in our nine to eleven
special that I can't wait for Devor Night to talk to.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
You about novel on nine to eleven. But so it
slowed me down a little bit. But I'm not pretty
weekly or maybe sometimes twice a week.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Well, I will share those because Jonathan, unlike me, he
writes interesting and fun stuff, not just you know, stuff
that will make your head explode and your blood boil.
You can find his subjects.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Of WNBA's doing that to me. Now, I listened to
your last hour.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
If they want to be on the show today, I
can't wait to talk about this. I want to add
something to your thing though, talking about guys coming in. Yeah,
if you're in the G League, which is the next
level to the NBA, average salaries forty thousand a year,
average salary to WNBA. Now, because of Kate Lenclark five
hundred thousand dollars a year, you think people are going
(13:18):
to men are going to jump from the G League
to the WNBA make ten times what they're making right now.
If that door gets open and we're watching the WNBA
destroy themselves in real.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Time, right in front of us. Did you sorry I
still jump in your combo?
Speaker 1 (13:31):
No, we were talking about the last hour of people
missed it. I've got a great column by my friend
David Strom on the blog today at mandyblog dot com
about it. No, the WNBA is exactly what happens when
women run everything. I hate to say it, but you
got a bunch of like angry people who are down
with the patriarchy and white women or whatever. I can't
(13:52):
even they are. They're consuming themselves and it's sad because
women have fought so long to have this opportunity. They
finally have an opportunity to make decent money. The league
is healthier than it's been and they're going to destroy
it because they're all self interested jerks. But anyway, Jonathan Flora,
good to see you again, my friend. I'll see you soon.
(14:12):
Tell your wife is thanks for having me. I still
love her as much as that first time I met her.
All right, Jonathan, I'll talk to you later, right,
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