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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And we'll take you right up until three pm today. Now.

(00:03):
I talked yesterday with my friend Jonathan Flora. If you
heard the interview in the last hour about you know,
striking up conversations. And one of the things we talked
about was when I first met Deborah Flora, who's now
my show partner from Andy and deb I met her
an event. I went home and I told my husband,
I said, I want to be friends with this woman.
But how do you How do you make friends as
an adult? You know, when you're a kid, you walk

(00:24):
up to somebody the playground and say let's be friends,
and they're like yeah, and then your besties forever. But
when you're an adult, meeting people and having things in
common that bring you together is really really challenging. My
next guest knew about that, and he's created an answer
for that, Tim Hess, Welcome to the show.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
Hi, Mandy, Thanks so much for having me. And you
couldn't describe it better. I definitely ran into that problem
myself when I moved to Colorado from Chicago and I
didn't know anyone.

Speaker 3 (00:54):
I just had a.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
Dream of living near the mountains and getting outdoors, and
I put the part of our meeting people ladder, and
I had to find a solution for that myself.

Speaker 1 (01:05):
Now are you in that, because you've created a thing
called Nearby Grid And we're gonna get into this just
a second, but are you in the tech field? Do
you have a tech background.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
I've always wanted to be in tech, so I did
study philosophy and legal studies in college. But it's really
been the rise of AI that's helped me get into tech.
So I have some mobile gaming apps that I have
guides for, like games like League of Legends and things
like that. But tech has really evolved so much lately

(01:36):
that I've been able to make my dream app because
I have a social media background as well. So it's
a social media platform called nearby Grid that started just
here in Colorado.

Speaker 3 (01:48):
So yeah, that's my background.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
And recently we've been featured on Fox News and the
article has also been reposted by sites like Yahoo and Aol.
And we're really hitting it off here in Denver for
finding local communities and groups and events and having people
meet and discover each other through the platform.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
One of the things I love about this, especially in
the metro the size of Denver, is that if I
meet someone and I find out that they live in
wheat Ridge. We're not going to be friends because I
live in Douglas County, right, so I'm not going to
drive an hour to go see my friend nearby. Grid
kind of solves that problem. Explain how this works.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
Exactly. So it's a geolocation app. You can choose to
put yourself on a map or a grid, and it'll
show you all the closest users, events and groups all
nearby you, sorted by location. So, for example, I have
my paddleboarding group on there, and that's what inspired me
to make the app. We ran into an issue where

(02:49):
we had about ten members, and other apps out there
wanted to charge a monthly fee of about forty.

Speaker 3 (02:55):
Dollars a month.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
But we came up with a better solution, and that's
just have our own app where groups don't have to pay,
make it free for all groups and organizers to use
the app, and host events with unlimited attendees, and make
it even more easily discoverable by just seeing everything on
a local map rather than having to search for the
events you like or to use swipe features like some

(03:19):
social media apps have. Like so I've left and right.
That's really not intuitive, I don't think so. I just
made it really easy where you could see everything visually
right on a map, and we've really hit it off
with I guess around forty plus groups right here in
Denver already using that app.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
Well, I I downloaded the app yesterday. I created my
free membership. I got my own Mandy at Mandy that's
me on the nearby grid app. So if you see me,
that's me because I got my own name. Because it's
so new, I'm very excited about that. But I will
tell you a couple of things. And this is just
based on my own observations on nextdoor. Because I'm older

(03:56):
than you are. I know that you created this with
young people in mind, and I I'm here for that.
I think that's great, But there's just as much of
a need for people over fifty five over sixty to
find community. Sure, if you go to next door, that's
where you see Mom's going, Hey, is there a mommy
group around here? Does anybody want to start a mommy
walking group? Or seniors saying hey, does anybody want to

(04:19):
do a book club for older women? You know, things
like that. So I hope that you make some categories
that are specifically user friendly to the older folks as well.
I mean sometimes it's like, would anybody like to start
a group to give each other rides to doctor's appointments?
I mean, yeah, my mom is Yeah, my mom is

(04:40):
eighty two, and she has a little group of older
women that that's what they do for each other. So
I see so much possibility here. Really, I just think
this is such a great idea. What's the feedback that
you're getting from the people who are already on the app.

Speaker 2 (04:54):
We've had amazing feedback so far. So people are loving it.
They're loving that it's free, and they're loving that by
if you sign up by August thirty first, you get
unlimited for life.

Speaker 3 (05:03):
It's sort of like an early Denver promo.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
But we have some large groups already of forty plus
people and a few groups on our app, and my
powderboarding group is already at one hundred and eighty plus people.
But people are loving like checking out the local groups,
seeing what's around them, and we've had so many outdoors
the activities because it's summer. But I totally agree that
there should be more options, like I guess book clubs,

(05:29):
and we do have like Denver trivia league, which is awesome.

Speaker 3 (05:34):
They joined our app. That's a great indoor activity.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
We've also had a few bars and restaurants join and
they post their events, so you know in advance what
to expect when you go to the bar restaurant for
trivia and nights like that. But there's so many possibilities.
It's really a self serve app. So you can make
your groups.

Speaker 3 (05:53):
For rides to like the dentist's office.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
Or the airport, things like that, and it automatically just
makes a group chat for everyone who's interested.

Speaker 3 (06:00):
It's super easy.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
I was going to ask you how the actual process works.
If I see someone that has the same interest that
I say, I want to start a let's see, I
want to start a mommy walking group, and I see
other moms on there, how does that process work? How
do I reach out to them? What does that look like?
I mean, I don't necessarily want to be inundated with
a bunch of people sending me messages. How do I

(06:23):
control that? Yeah, so the first step is to make
your group. So you would make your mommy walking group,
maybe you would make a name for it, and it
would be maybe specifically in your area, so you would
say Douglas Comedy for example, Mommy walking group. And then
what you could do is you could sort on the

(06:43):
map by people who have similar interests, so if their
parents with kids, you look through the filters and sort
by individuals who are on the map, and then in
a chat with them, you could just click invite to group.
So you don't necessarily have to all these people really
well before you invite them to your group, but you
can see that they have similar interests and then say, hey,

(07:05):
do you want to be part of this group? And
then that's really a way to get new members into
your group right off the bat. And then you can
also host events for your group, and like, anyone who
attends a single event will become a group member and
they'll see your future events too, so it's super easy.
I noticed when I signed up you had options like
what do you want out of the nearby grid app?

(07:27):
And one of them is like dating? Then there's friendship.
I mean, do you ever foresee this being anything like
a dating app? How does it differ from like the
BFF sites that are out there where you're supposed to
be able to find a best friend.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
Yeah, I totally get that, so I built it with
that exact question in mind.

Speaker 3 (07:50):
The app is primarily for friends, and pretty.

Speaker 2 (07:52):
Much everyone who joins the app has friends is one
of their intents on the app, But you can also
set an intent as dating for ale, and then you'll
also see the others who might be interested in you
who have dating as they're in tent. So if you're
on there as a single, it's great for dating. But
if you're on there as a married couple, for example,

(08:12):
you never have to see people who are interested in dating.
I never have to see their profiles at all.

Speaker 1 (08:18):
Well, it's very very cool, and I think that I
hope it grows very very quickly because this is going
to be one of those things that the more people
that are on it, the better it's going to be.
The more options that you have. You've got a good
core in the Denver like in this in Denver proper.
I'm talking to you today because I want people in
the Verbs on this.

Speaker 3 (08:38):
Okay, I like it too, rock Yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
I don't want to drive to Denver. I don't want
to have to drive up by twenty five. I want
people in Douglas County that I can go do stuff with.
So hopefully we can get you more people in the
verbs of all ages. And I love this concept because
we are we are so desperately lonely in our society. People,
especially younger people, have a really hard time just talking

(09:04):
to strangers. So I get that. I think this is
a wonderful addition to the scene. This guy said, mommy
group senior women. What about men, Dude, there's all kinds
of things on this app. What are some of the
groups that you've already got going on, Tim, so I.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
Can list off a whole bunch. We have paddleboarding, a
Nintendo Switch group. We have Workut Buddies, Denver Trivia League,
Summit Sports League for dodgeball.

Speaker 3 (09:30):
We have Up the Creek Ski and Recreation Club.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
We have mile High climbing, badminton, the Manitout Inclined group,
which I attended last week.

Speaker 3 (09:39):
We have tennis and pickleball. We have volleyball, a bowling league.

Speaker 2 (09:43):
We have restaurants and bars like Lady Justice Brewing, Gregor's
Kitchen and Top House, eight Ace, Eat.

Speaker 3 (09:49):
And Serve, Vanishing west Siders.

Speaker 2 (09:52):
And we also have board in groups, hockey fans groups,
local art classes and more.

Speaker 3 (10:00):
Ultimately expanding out here.

Speaker 1 (10:01):
Ultimately, if you don't hear something that you like. If
you if your passion is not represented in that list,
you can start your own group. And that's what this
that's what makes it so great, right. I mean you
could go on and say, say, you love to play
D and D, but you want to get a game
together that's closer to your neighborhood. You can do this
on this app. Whatever you're interested. You're a woodworker, you're
a wood carver, you're just a guy who likes to

(10:22):
stand in your garage and drink beer. Whatever it is,
you can create your own group and you can you
can basically reach out to people with similar interests. That's
what makes this app such a great idea. Tim, I
love this. I'm I'm not only an early adopter. I
am going to be watching you to see how well
this pans out. Are there any like in the future

(10:43):
would you do like a nearby grid event in a
different community where you're just like, look, if you're on
the platform, regardless of your interests, you're invited to come
hang out and meet all these other cool people because
you know, you never know what would overlap him. Is
that something you would do in the future.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
I appreciate that so much that you're enjoying the app
as an early adopter, And yes, I've definitely thought about that.
That's one of the things that I'm actually looking forward
to most about the app is.

Speaker 3 (11:12):
I'm not making any revenue yet because.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
I'm letting everyone get all the unlimited features for free
as they sign up right now. But down the road
as the app generates revenue, I do want to host
nearby great events for people of all interests, and I
think that would be a great way to get people
out and mingling in the community as well.

Speaker 1 (11:30):
I think people are hungry for it, and they want
the opportunity to meet with other people. They just don't
know how to do it anymore. And that's that's what's
so sad. I think I'm going to start a group
called no Phones for two hours, and We're just gonna
have no phones for two hours. I was just on
a cruise tim where no one had the Wi Fi
package and we chatted with everyone. It was glorious.

Speaker 3 (11:53):
I mean, it was just that's amazing.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
Nice to connect with human beings again from all over
the world. It was just it was so good. Okay
to the text, tru asked, is it good for swingers,
I mean, you could start your own group. I don't know.
Are there restrictions on what you can create? I mean
obviously you're not gonna let salation. I mean, well, well
maybe you will. Are there any sort of guardrails on

(12:16):
what kind of groups that people can create?

Speaker 2 (12:20):
Yes, there are guardrails, and there's terms and conditions that'll
specifically mention them when you try to make a group,
and there's filters on the sort of words that you
use when creating a group. So unfortunately, a group like
swingers or anything with that framing wouldn't be allowed because
it's more focused on recreation, getting out into the community

(12:41):
and things like that.

Speaker 1 (12:42):
I mean, they're getting out of community, you could say,
not just kidding, So sorry, Texter, that is not going
to be a thing you can do. Somebody just said
Nearby grid is not fee. It is free. Anyone who
joins Nearby Grid by August thirty one gets unlimited for
life for free as an early adopter. So I don't
know what you did, text, but I signed up for
free yesterday, so I know that that it is free.

(13:04):
So if you have a problem, maybe do you guys
have like a contact page or you know any I
put a link to the web page on the blog
today A yeah, Mandy.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
You can always contact support at nearby grid dot com
and it is free.

Speaker 3 (13:18):
It will always be free.

Speaker 2 (13:21):
There are paid tiers that will come up September first,
but Unlimited for Life really offers a lot of features,
like you can see the seven hundred and fifty nearest people,
you can view the map and grid while you're offline.
There's more filter sets to filter through the people and
events near you, and you can coast or co host

(13:41):
unlimited groups with unlimited attendees. So that's for anyone who
signs up now before August thirty first, and even after
August thirty first, there will always be.

Speaker 3 (13:52):
A free tier.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
Nothing in the way of getting into a group or
event that requires you to pay, unless group itself as
a fee.

Speaker 1 (14:01):
For example, this texter said, listening from Florida sounds awesome,
which brings the question when does this go nationwide?

Speaker 3 (14:09):
So that's a great question.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
We did have Box thirty one Denver, an amazing article
written by Jacob Factor and it was republished by Yahu
and AOL. So we do have one thousand plus users
here in Colorado, but we're approaching two thousand total users.
So our other thousand is nationwide people getting set up

(14:32):
with their community.

Speaker 3 (14:34):
And with that we have.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
Half our groups and events here in Denver, but half
a nationwide, so you can really get anything started in
your community and then just invite people to your group
or event page.

Speaker 1 (14:45):
And I would say, I'm going to start recommending because
I love the next door app just to watch people
complain about everything. It just gives me an immense amount
of joy to see people bitch about everything. But now
when I see those people saying, hey, just but you
have a mommy walking group, but I'm gonna say, hey,
you should start one on nearby app or nearby grid
the app and suggested. I think that's the way you're

(15:07):
going to get the most growth is people saying, hey,
I downloaded this app, I started this group, you should
do it too. So Tim Has, the founder of Nearby Grid.
Nearbygrid dot com is the basic website. You can download
it from your Apple Store or your Android store. It's
available now for free until August thirty first. Tim, I
can't wait to see what this turns into. And I
really appreciate you taking the time to share it with

(15:29):
us today.

Speaker 2 (15:31):
Thank you so much for having me. I can't wait
to see where it goes as well. And I'm so
glad to have you as an early user. I appreciate it, Mandy.

Speaker 1 (15:37):
At Mandy, that's me, Tim Hass, I appreciate you, man.
I'll talk to you again soon, talk soon. Thank you,
all right? That is Tim has This is just a
really cool, cool thing. I love this text message. This
text message says guys starts an app for people to meet,
and all of a sudden, freaks and weirdos want to
start swinger groups losers. Yeah, I don't know about Mandy.

(16:01):
Can I get that swinger's phone number? Please? Ha ha?
I mean really, ha ha? Are you just fly fishing?
You could start a group for fly fishing. You could
start a group for anything except swingers. As we've established,
but it is just so hard to meet people that
you like, and having one thing in common with someone

(16:23):
is such a great way to start a relationship. One
thing I've noticed is I've gotten older, and I've realized
this well, like when you have longtime friends, you're willing
to put up with some of their crap because of
the history of the relationship. But when you're meeting new friends,
you don't have that history to fall back on. And
when they have their crap, and by the way, we

(16:44):
all have our crap, we all do. We all bring
some crap to the situation, right And when when the
newer friends, you know, their crap gets in the way,
you're far less likely to give them, you know, a
little space on that. So but if you have that
core thing that you enjoy together, and maybe you're in
five different groups and you have five different sets of
friends that you do five different things with, next door

(17:07):
is a basket of deplorable karens. Yes, it is, and
it is glorious. I love seeing what people complain about
on next door, Zach, you're young. Do you ever go
on next door? Or is it just all old people complaining?
Which is why I'm there.

Speaker 4 (17:22):
My current setup in my apartment, it's just like a
less homey neighborhood.

Speaker 1 (17:26):
So I'm not on it right now. Oh yeah.

Speaker 4 (17:27):
So when I was in college and it was more
of like you know, on the hill and bolder, more
of like an actual neighborhood, I was on it all
the time and I would get a riot laughing at
the stuff bolder rights would complain about on.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
There derekly funny, hysterically. My favorite is this, like this
actually happened on my next door app? Does anyone know
who this man is? Driving back and forth? And puts
a picture of the guy's truck and the scuttle butt.
Now all that was that does anyone know this man

(18:00):
driving by in his truck? That's the post, the whole post. Immediate,
it's like, well, you need to call the police, Like wait,
what how did we escalate from? Does anyone know this
man in this truck too? Immediately? You need to call
the police.

Speaker 4 (18:14):
Yeah, unless it's like menacingly or he's following me or
that's crazy, that's nuts.

Speaker 1 (18:20):
I know. By the way, we have confirmation. Texter number
one is not a swinger, just curious about the boundaries.
I bet you are curious. Texter dog is yility group.
You could do that if you want to. What if
you don't like people? Is there a group? No, but
you could start one. Could you imagine if there was
a group on nearby grid that was just like people
who don't like other people, and you could all agree

(18:43):
to not show up at the same place at the
same time, and then you could all be alone at
your homes knowing there was other people doing the same thing,
it would create community. And yet not. Man, it seems
like nudism and swingers could be a group, and that way,
it's still outdoor recreation. I mean, I feel like you're
pushing the boundaries there, you know. And one thing about

(19:05):
nudist they're usually the people you don't want to see naked.
I mean, I've heard from the internet anyway. Coming up
in the next segment, I have a lot of stories
on the blog today, but this one I think is
really important. It has to do with something I love
talking about, and that is happiness. I don't love talking

(19:28):
about it as much as Arthur Brooks, though he is
the master when it comes to the study of happiness,
and we'll get into some of the stuff he's found
next

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