08-13-26 FULL SHOW - A Different Choice For Senate - The Mandy Connell Podcast

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All things are normal again because Anthony Rodriguez is back
from his multi day stint covering training camp.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
Now, let me ask you.

Speaker 1 (00:06):
This multi day that's cute.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
I know, but I didn't want to go too for exactly.
You're not wrong, I am.

Speaker 1 (00:15):
I'm so excited about the Broncos season that I already
asked for the tickets that I want for this year
because I figure they're going to be in hot demand.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
Just a little.

Speaker 1 (00:23):
What are your thoughts after being out there every day
for training camp providing incredible content for our social media channels?

Speaker 2 (00:30):
By the way, Oh, where was it likely to begin?
I so much?

Speaker 1 (00:33):
Well, well, we can talk about this and it's on
the blog today. We're going to get to the blog
in just a second. Bo's not playing this Friday, and
I'm just going to say this. Preseason games are not
for starters. Were covering from an ankle injury.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
Can I be more specific than that? Yes, Sean Payne
did not say this. This is how I read into it.
They planned this week one being out for bow a
month ago, so he said yesterday. What he didn't say,
and what I and I think many others are reading
into is where there is the week one tomorrow in Atlanta.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
What does Atlanta have? The half league also has.

Speaker 3 (01:04):
Turf, Yeah, what's not good for the ankle turf?

Speaker 2 (01:08):
Yeah, So I think that factors in. I don't hate it.

Speaker 3 (01:11):
I think that they're getting a lot of really really
good work in in practice. And he's gonna play. He
already said he's good to go. He would play in
the regular season if this were that time. He's gonna
play in the final two regular season games. I'm not
concerned about it. He and the offense have looked good.
They also are going against what I am now predicting
is gonna be the best, not top.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
Five, not top three.

Speaker 3 (01:31):
From what I have seen and the depth on this team, Mandy,
they're gonna have the best defense in the NFL this year.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
They're gonna be even better than last year. And that's saying.

Speaker 3 (01:41):
Something given how everyone including me, was panicking about losing
John Franklin Myers in free agency. They have guys Man
Malcolm Roach, Andyjazerrique, guys are gonna step up for him.
And that was the one big question on defense. That's
not a concern. The offense looks phenomenal. We obviously want
to get Jalen waddle back in healthy.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
I'm hope.

Speaker 3 (02:00):
I think he'll be back maybe middle of next week
and then maybe play in that next preseason game.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
It's not a concern yet.

Speaker 3 (02:06):
They don't play regular season game for a month from
I think tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
But Pat Bryant looks good.

Speaker 3 (02:12):
They added the rookie running back Joanah Coleman, looks fantastic
in that room, kind of help in case Dobbins goes
down again. Overall, there are there are really not many
questions with this team.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
Lots to be excited about, is what I'm talking about.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
Yes, and I think I've told you before.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
As of now, to go big picture, my super Bowl
prediction is Rams and Broncos. But as of now, until
I see that Broncos offense go from really good to
maybe great or elite, I have the Rams beating the
Broncos right now in the Super Bowl. But I love
to be wrong, but the Broncos are.

Speaker 2 (02:45):
Going to be there. It's going to be a great year.
I think it is going to be a great year.
They look good about that, all right.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
So let's jump to the blog. Shall we find the
blog at mandyblog dot com. That's mandyblog dot com. Got
any like four more subscribers to get to thirty six hundred.
That would be fantastic. That happened today. So if you're inclined,
please subscribe to the blogmandyblog dot com. Look for the
headline right there at the front. One of the things
I like about this new blog site is there's no

(03:10):
doubt where today's blog is.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
It's right there, right there at the top. Look for
the headline.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
This says eight thirteen to twenty six blog a different
choice for Senate. Click on that and here are the
headlines you will find within.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
You're Me Anything's hosting office, half of American Allerships and clipments.
A sea that's going to press.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
Plant today on the blog, Bob j is running for
the US Senate. The American Book of Fables When calling
the police doesn't matter. All sides are ruining entertainment now
no Bo. This Friday, dougco will vote to increase the
Board of County Commissioners. Colorado is not adding new jobs.

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Colorado's gun laws are under attack in the courts. Could
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This gives breakneck speed new context. It's a buyer's market

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for sure. Trump can't charge for early access to policy decisions.
Maybe Elon will buy CNN. We need some sort of
defense against drones, Rockies fans get it, kid. We spend
more on education for worse results. Trump's cabinet seems to
get along. Kurt Skiller only hit his intended target to
lawyers argue, Carolyn Levitt is leaving her White House post

(04:33):
snoop on the stoop, claims another scalp. Now there's ai
for bad relationships. The SBLC is seeing charges filed. Jenna
bush Hager knows she's got privilege. Mike McGlinchey isn't ready
to score. And now what animal is most likely to
kill you in Colorado? And someone suggested Elon must buy Britain.
Those are the headlines on the blog at Mandy blog

(04:56):
dot com. Tick Tech two a winner, Thanks Nan, see
so the big stories on the blog today.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
I have a question and.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
I want to I'm just gonna kind of jump into this.
I'll tell you who's coming on the show today. We've
got an independent Forward Party member, Bob ch who is
running for US Senate. Now, normally when you have an
independent fringed party candidate, and I have to say that
that the Forward Party has not become a major party

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in Colorado yet, I do believe that their infrastructure is
such that they will. But normally I might not talk
to independent candidates. But Bob Chu has some money behind
him and he's got some interesting ideas. The Forward Party
is very interesting. They're really going after disaffected people of

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both parties. They have people in the Forward Party from
both sides of the aisle, and their whole thing is, look,
we're tired of politics. We just want to solve the problems.
And I got to tell you that is a very
very appealing argument for me, very appealing because so many
of the problems we have in this country are solvable problems.

(06:09):
The immigration situation is a solvable problem. I think if
you went to any you know, PCA meeting or a
corner bar where there was a bunch of people sitting
around chatting at the bar, and you said, hey, how
does this sound to you?

Speaker 2 (06:22):
Guys?

Speaker 1 (06:22):
Why don't we secure the border, which we've obviously done
much better under Donald Trump, And now let's figure out
a way to deal with the people that are here illegally.
And they would all be like, okay, let's figure it out,
and they could sit down with a piece of paper
and they could work it out. But Congress can't. Even
Congress can't do its job. Congress is so politically inert

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because they're all worried about how it's going to affect
them or their party.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
So, Mandy, my pet.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
Monkey, just subscribe to your blog. You're welcome. We'll make
sure your pet monkey opens the blog and reads it
every day. I don't want a bunch of antem subscribers.
I want people who actually subscribe and read it, and
their brains get bigger. Your monkey will get considerably smarter
just by reading the blog. Nonetheless, Bob, she's gonna join

(07:13):
us at one o'clock. This texter said, the Forward Party
is Democrat. They have Democrats, they have Republicans. They are
definitely more moderate and they are not rock rib conservatives.
But if they can get elected and solve problems in
a reasonable fashion, I don't care.

Speaker 2 (07:29):
I really don't. I don't care.

Speaker 1 (07:32):
I don't care if you are running on the idiot party,
if you have great ideas and you can actually work
to get things done in a productive way, if you
and I'm gonna ask Bob to this, Bob, what happens
when a big continuing resolution bill comes to the US
Senate and you're our US senator? Do you vote for it?
Because I got to tell you, guys, I am so sick,

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absolutely sick of politicians not doing their jobs in the
most basic way. And the most basic function of our
federal government is the budget, and they can't get it done,
and they, oh, we're gonna pass this temporary continue No,
it's never temporary. We're still we are still doing all

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of the spending that was part of the Biden administration,
all of Joe Biden's stuff, well not all of it,
some of it's been peeled out, but a vast majority
of that spending is still in there.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
Nothing is changed. It doesn't matter who you.

Speaker 1 (08:27):
Vote for, because the spending is gonna be the same.
I had a story on I don't know if it
was today's blog or yesterday's blog. I cannot remember. Oh no,
it's a column on yesterday's blog. You know what, I'm
gonna go pick I'm gonna go pick it up. I'm
gonna I'm gonna, I'm gonna find it because it's very funny.
First of all, it's very very funny, but it's essentially

(08:48):
about young people who believe they want socialism. They don't
actually want socialism. No, what they want is no responsibilities.
And the column and why Young Liberals Hate Capitalism and
why They're wrong is written by Ivonna, who goes by
Lady Liberty, and it starts with this. Every generation eventually

(09:10):
receives its first adult paycheck, studies the deductions, looks at
the rent, looks back at the deductions, and briefly concludes
that Karl Marx may have had a point. For the
average young American liberal. This revelation often occurs on a
thirteen hundred dollars phone while waiting for a stranger to
deliver a twelve dollars coffee from six blocks away. She
does not hate capitalism. She hates invoices. She hates that

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apartments cost money, jobs require attendance, attractive neighborhoods are already occupied,
and nobody has yet created a government program that will
pay her to make politically conscious ceramics in a sunlit
Brooklyn Loft. What she wants is not socialism. She wants
capitalism with the consequences turned off. And the rest of
the column is fantastic. You should go read it. It was
on yesterday's blog at the very bottom. The reason I

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bring this up is because I realize something, and it's
fairly obvious that I realized, and I'm a little disappointed
that I didn't point it out sooner. And that is
simply that young people have somehow been sold this bill
of goods that corporations are the problem, right. Corporate greed
is why everything's so expensive, and it's been a masterful effort.

(10:19):
The reason that everything is so expensive is that under
the Biden administration, everything got fifteen percent more expensive.

Speaker 2 (10:27):
Because of inflation.

Speaker 1 (10:29):
Inflation, by the way, which has almost nothing to do
with a private economy, almost nothing. We have inflation and
continued and ongoing inflation because the government keeps spending more
than they bring in every single year. That means that
the Federal Reserve, in order to continue to facilitate this overspending,
buys the bonds and prints more money. When they print

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more money, what happens to the money. You already have
the best explanation I've ever heard of inflation, and I've
given on the show before, but it's worth repeating because
even young people can understand this. Let's go back to
the Roman Empire. Okay, and for a woman I know
way too much about followed the Roman Empire. I know
that's a dude thing normally, but it's fascinating because the
parallels are so clear. Back in the Roman Empire, when

(11:15):
they started doing the bread and circuses, meaning they started
giving people first, they started giving people wheat. They were like, oh,
you know what, you guys don't have any food. We're
gonna give you some wheat. Here you go, here's your wheat. Well,
then the people were like, wow, what are we gonna
do with this damn wheat? And the government was like,
you know what, that's too much to ask you to
make your own bread.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
We're gonna give you bread.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
And while we're at it, we're gonna you create these spectacles,
these gladiator battles to keep you busy and entertained so
you don't worry about how everything else is going.

Speaker 4 (11:43):
Well.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
Eventually, the Roman Empire, which was on the gold standard,
started to run out of gold. So each of their
monetary pieces, these gold coins that they had, they would
bring in the gold coins, they would melt them down
and they would mix them with another metal or two
well be able to make more money.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
But every time.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
They did that, they reduce the amount of gold that
was in those gold coins, meaning the gold coins had
less value. That is inflation. Every time they take the
same pool and make more money out of it, you
have devalued the value of that coin, and pretty soon
there was no gold left in those coins and they

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were essentially worthless. That is what we've done to the
dollar over the last few years. Now, what I'd love
to see is I'd love to see Republicans start to
get some clear messaging about this. Because it's one thing
to sit on the radio, or sit in your house,
or sit online and make fun of these young numbskulls
who are like socialism is great because they're just too
dumb to know because they're so poorly educated about it.

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It's one thing to sit back and laugh at their stupidity.
But they are turning into a formidable voting block, and
they are going to put people into office, into positions
where they can influence your life if we don't get
a better message on how capitalism is far superior to socialism. Now,
something else has to happen at the same time, and

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that is Donald Trump has to stop distorting capitalism even more.
The problem with capitalism as I see it right now
in our society is that too many manipulations of the
free market have been allowed to occur over the last
one hundred years, too many interventions by government, spurred on

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by big business that knows they can handle it. I'm
gonna use Sarbanes Oxley as an example. The Sarbanes Oxley
Bill was passed ostensibly to make CEOs responsible for false information,
and by the way, it covers so much more than this.

Speaker 2 (13:46):
That bill is ginormous.

Speaker 1 (13:47):
It's a mess. It has added so much in regulatory
cost to businesses. But nonetheless, Sarbains Oxley was actually supported
by big business. Do you know why? Because they can comply.
They've got teams of lawyers and accountants, they've got people
on payroll to handle their compliance costs, and they knew
it would crush the competition. That is a perfect example

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of how capitalism gets distorted by government. Now, there are
things that we need to make happen when it comes
to free markets and overall capitalism. You need to make
sure that if people get flat out ripped off, they
have recourse. You know, people need to be able to
get their money back or release attempt to get their
money back.

Speaker 2 (14:27):
They need recourse.

Speaker 1 (14:28):
But we've gone so far beyond that, so far, and
now capitalism is distorted. The barriers to entry are incredibly high.
Here in Colorado, the licensing for some industries is absurd,
absolutely absurd. And now you've got the Democratic Socialists of

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America and their entire talking point, their entire messaging is simply,
you know what, you'd be successful if it wasn't for
corporate greed. We're going to text the hell lot of
rich people and you're going to get the benefit. We're
going to take away from those robber barons who have
taken away your money, even though they totally haven't. We've
taken away your money because what you've done, You've done

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all the right things. You went to college, you took
on a bunch of college debt. They leave out the
part that you've got a dumbass degree that has no value,
but those people are holding you down. That message is
very appealing to someone with one hundred thousand dollars in
student debt and no way to pay it back because
they have a degree that no one will hire them with.

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So they're working at a coffee shop or a restaurant
or a target, and they're hearing these messages of the
DSA that it's not their fault, they did everything right.
It's the fault of all those evil corporations.

Speaker 2 (15:45):
Who are just trying to hold them down.

Speaker 1 (15:49):
The reality is much different, and that is out of
control government spending, which, by the way, the Democratic Socialists
of America want to make even worse, is a huge
part of every problem that we are facing. Manipulations in
the free market by the Federal Reserve have so distorted
our view of what a reasonable mortgage rate is and

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ran up the price of homes so high because people
don't buy houses on their price, they buy them on
their payment. So when you have very very low interest rates,
you can afford to pay more because you're trying to
shoot for that payment, right, and you got a low
interest rate, So housing prices went through the roof.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
Now, as a homeowner, am I bummed about that?

Speaker 4 (16:30):
No?

Speaker 2 (16:30):
I am not. I am not at all bummed.

Speaker 1 (16:33):
About that, but it has created another barrier entry for
these young people to be able to just buy a home.
So we've got to find out how to make sure
that these people who are getting sucked into the world's
dumbest narrative because they were so poorly educated, because they
went to college and got advanced degrees taught by communists,

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we have to figure out a way to break through
with the messaging and say, you guys are trying a
road that has already been traveled, and it was an
abject disaster every single time it has been tried. Every
single time.

Speaker 2 (17:13):
The common Spirit Health.

Speaker 1 (17:14):
Text line is five six six. I know you can
text us anytime. This textor said Mandy. The Dems and
the da actually this said Mindy, But I'll forgive you Mandy.
The Dems in the DSA, and the young folks all
want medicare for all. I'm seventy two on Medicare now.
I figure I've paid over one hundred thousand dollars in
premiums into Medicare over my career. When we start moving
everybody to medicare, who's going to pay the one hundred

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thousand dollars for every human in the country that from
Steve So. I didn't put this on the blog today
because I haven't had a chance to read all of it.
But a group of Yale University people researchers came out
with our research paper today that said Medicare for all
would save a trillion dollars a year and it would save.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
Hundreds of thousands of lives wives.

Speaker 1 (18:01):
It's that kind of nonsense coming from the same kind
of nonsense people who educated the same kind of people
who are now in the DSA that we have to
have an argument against now. Our current healthcare system is
a disaster. We all know this, but it's a disaster
because of Obamacare. It wasn't great before. But does anyone
in this listening audience other than those of you who

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have your premiums paid by a subsidy so paid by
me and a rod and everybody else. Is this better
for anyone?

Speaker 2 (18:30):
No, it's not.

Speaker 1 (18:31):
And yet Yale University wants me to believe that somehow
injecting more government into that system is the way to go. Eh,
it's ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (18:42):
Oh thank you.

Speaker 1 (18:43):
My pet monkey is now reading your blog. He's slinging
pooh at it. Well let him know I'm slinging pooh
back every day from the blog. Hi, Mandy, I truly
love what you do for the public. The answer is
to follow the US Constitution. If there's some way we
could compel our so called leaders, the US Constitution would
take care of almost all these problems. But there's no
political power in enforcing the Constitution because the Constitution is

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a document of limits on government. And I hate to
say it, there are a lot of Republicans who are
very happy to use their power in government to do
whatever they want. Mandy. This country could benefit by utilizing
a more amish mentality. I'm not giving up electricity for
anybody not doing it.

Speaker 2 (19:29):
Good morning, Mandy.

Speaker 1 (19:30):
I'm glad you have finally realized that Republicans and Democrats
spend the same. I've said that a million times on
the show. You guys, I've said it a million times
that the Republicans have absolutely no moral high ground on
spending anymore. They may have in the past during the
New Gingrich years, but they certainly are not now anywhell finish.
I'm glad you finally realize that Republicans and Democrats spend

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the same. The difference is Republicans cut taxes, which add
to the deficit. That's why only Democrats have had reduced deficits.
Author is describing a minority of liberals. The majority like capitalism, however,
not the Republican version because their brand eliminates competition. That's
why democratic socialism is becoming popular with the far left.
I must tell you you are so wrong. I'll explain

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how wrong next. Good morning, Mandy, blah blah blah. The
difference is Republicans cut taxes, which add to the deaf
sit talking about both parties spending, and then they went on.
The author in this describing young people who want capitalism
without invoices is describing a minority of liberals, says this texter.
The majority like capitalism, however, not the Republican version because

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their brand eliminates competition. That's why democratic socialism is becoming
popular with.

Speaker 2 (20:43):
The far left. That is not accurate by the latest
polling data.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
In twenty twenty five, Gallup asked voters how they felt
about capitalism and how they felt about socialism. Back in
twenty sixteen, fifty six percent of Democrats that a favorable
opinion of capitalism, sixty percent had a favorable opinion of socialism.

Speaker 2 (21:06):
In twenty twenty.

Speaker 1 (21:07):
Five, it's even more dire. Forty two percent have a
favorable opinion of capitalism, while sixty six percent have a
favorable opinion of socialism. It is a majority of Democrats.
And I've been, really I've been thinking about stuff lately
and just thinking about stuff, and I'm gonna throw out
this theory. I think that one of the reasons that

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the left in this country, and I'm specifically talking about
the highly over and poorly educated people with lots of
degrees behind their names and a lot of so student
debt to go with it, are so inclined to always
want to believe the experts. There's two reasons here in
my mind, and this is just me wildly speculating.

Speaker 2 (21:51):
Number one is.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
If experts are not truly experts, then they have wasted
their time trying to become one of them. Meaning if
the college professors that they give so much high esteem
or turn out to be wrong and turn out to
get things terribly, terribly wrong, well what does that say
about their own credentials? I think it's a they can't

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even begin to wrap their heads around what that would mean.
They have invested their entire young adult lives in wanting
to be part of the credential class, and what if
they find out the credential class doesn't have.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
A clue what they're talking about.

Speaker 1 (22:28):
This is why one of the reasons the news media
is so desperate to continue propping up doctor Fauci. Number one.
They all were BFFs with him during COVID and they're
not about to say, holy crap, did we get that wrong.
There's a second part of this. I think because they
put so much faith in experts because of point number one,
they are willing to outsource their decision making to the experts.

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They are perfectly willing to let someone that they believe
is more credentialed, more knowledgeable, more whatever, make their decisions
for them. And I think that's a big that's a
big appeal for young people when it comes to socialism,
although they don't realize that with socialism, your choices are
so dramatically limited that it doesn't really matter what you

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want because you don't get it anyway. I can't wait
for Zoron Mamdannie to get his grocery stores open in
New York City. I cannot wait. I cannot wait for
the first couple of days where people go in and
buy everything that is artificially lowly priced so they can
turn around and sell it out of profit. I can't
wait until socialism meets capitalism. I can't wait because they're

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being sold a bill of goods. Like you, Texter, who
really believed that democrats like capitalism.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
No, they don't.

Speaker 1 (23:46):
Look at Elizabeth Warren, for God's sake, She's made her
entire career of railing against capitalism. You know why, because
she's from the expert class. She's never created a job
or a product, or made a payroll, or ever invented
or innovated or done anything remarkable. And yet she'll sit
there and rail against the people who do. They're so

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invested in making sure that we know that, because they
are highly educated by the expert class, that they somehow
have more value to society than those roofs that didn't
go to college but had the nerve to start a
business instead, those evil, greedy, corporate overlords. They skip right
to the end of the story. They ignore the part

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where Jeff Bezos and his wife Mackenzie at the time
were working on Amazon out of their garage. They skipped
over all of that. They just see the end result
and they decide that they, the educated class, deserve to
have the end results without any of the work that
it took to get there. So yeah, no, Democrats do
not love capitalism. I truly don't know what you're talking about.

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I really don't, because they don't. Someone else texted in
might be the same person. Hang on one second, let
me double check me. Look I have that. Oh yeah,
same person. I should have known. I did. Please explain
how paying each health insurance ceo twenty two million annually
combined with health insurance companies combined spending of eight hundred

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and eighty eight million annually. That's not an accurate number,
by the way, I already looked it up. It's completely fabricated.
That's one trillion going into rich people's pockets each year.
That would be eliminated if Medicare for all. Guys, what
are we seeing right now with Medicaid? How many billions
of dollars of fraud? Not only that, I read an

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article a couple of weeks ago about the National Health
Service because I looked up this is the other part
about Medicare for All that no one is talking about.
Look up the salaries of doctors in the National health system,
they make less than half what doctors in the United
States make less than half. So if you have a
doctor wh's advocating for Medicare for all, ask them, well,

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are you willing to take a fifty percent pay cut
because you're not going to make the same money. The
government's not going to pay you that kind of money.
No way, They're not going to be able to afford it.
And the notion that somehow the government, who has demonstrated
time and time and time again that when you're playing
at the table with other people's money, you don't really

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take good care of it, How in the world are
they going to run a more efficient system than a
company that is trying to maximize their profits. Now they're not.
The system that we have is not perfect. I will
be the first to admit it, but there are other
ways to fix it. The problem with what we're doing
is that we're trying to fix the end cost. It's
exactly the same as the example I gave with Jeff Bezos.

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People seeing the end result, the yacht, the money, the
buying of they see all that, and they don't see
the beginning of it.

Speaker 2 (26:46):
They don't see the first part.

Speaker 1 (26:48):
Well, the reality is is there's so much waste in government.
To think that Medicare for All would not be subject
to the exact same kind of waste is absurd. It's
absolutely nuts. We had a story this week and I
didn't even put it on the blog because it's so typical.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
Somebody did an audit and in.

Speaker 1 (27:07):
The state of Colorado, thousands of cell phones were purchased
and plans are paid for every single month that no
one uses. They just don't use them. Four hundred thousand
dollars worth just wasted. You know why, because that money
isn't their money. That money doesn't belong to the government.
Employee's in charge of that. Why take care of that.

(27:29):
It's somebody else's money, it's your money, it's my money,
so why pay attention to it. Medicare for All would
accomplish the following things. Number One, people like me would
still buy private insurance because I still want to get
good and timely healthcare, just like in Europe. A vast
majority of people in Europe that have means, they all

(27:51):
have private insurance. They go to private doctors, they go
to private hospitals. They get taken care of it in
a timely fashion. But you roops. You guys running around
calling for medicae for all. You can wait in line,
you can wait for care, you can try and see
a doctor.

Speaker 2 (28:05):
I'm not gonna do that.

Speaker 1 (28:07):
There will always be a two tiered system because that's
just how it is. That's how rich people will always
get better care, better service, better whatever, because they can
pay for it. So you think there's gonna be this
utopia where everybody gets free health No, and by the way,
medicare is not free. There are co pays, there are

(28:31):
coinsurance that you should buy. There's all of that stuff.
And the notion that somehow people are gonna get quote
free health care that they don't have to pay anything
for is insane. It will never ever happen, and if
it does, it will be an unmitigated disaster. Not to mention,
do you guys realize that the United States of America,
with our free market healthcare system as it stands, we

(28:54):
have accounted for about fifty percent of the major buy
medical and pharmaceutical innovation over the last forty years.

Speaker 2 (29:04):
Fifty percent.

Speaker 1 (29:05):
Do you know how much of the world's population we
are four percent, five percent tops. Where would we be
without a profit mode of incentivizing research that has helped us.
You know, so I don't even know solve how many problems. So, yeah,

(29:25):
we have seen our research and development spending drop over
the last few years. Now China does more research and
development than we do. But without the United States and
our innovations, the world would be sicker and the world
would be way, way worse off. Mandy, the left has
everyone saying Medicare for all. It messed it would be

(29:47):
Medicaid for all with far fewer doctors. They were probably
sneaking by calling it Medicare under age sixty five, which
will be more like Medicaid. If they did Medicare for all,
the only way that they would probably try to make
it work would be what Hillary Clinton tried to do.
Remember hillary Care back in the day I do. I

(30:08):
wasn't even really paying attention to politics back then, but
during the Obamacare debate, I went back and learned about
hillary Care, and hillary Care's main component was it outlawed
private coverage because they know they know that people will
go around the system. One of the reasons I love
talking about Pinnacle Advanced Primary Care and Kaufman Emergency Care

(30:28):
is because they're going around the existing system in a
way that works really well for the patients, really well. Mandy,
My mother in law returned to her Swedish homeland in
the eighties after an abusive marriage. Because she was an
American citizen who lived and worked in the US for years,
she had both Medicare and Social Security. Anytime she needed

(30:51):
surgery or treatment, she would return to the US to
receive medical care.

Speaker 2 (30:55):
Here.

Speaker 1 (30:56):
Under the Swedish healthcare system, she would have gone blind
and lost. It's the use of her leg and shoulder
waiting for surgery.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
Exactly, Mandy.

Speaker 1 (31:05):
The thing that makes me laugh or scoff, depending on
who I'm talking to, is what is the concept of
corporate greed? Where exactly does that money go to that
corporations are earning? Most of it goes to the shareholders,
which by the way, are sixty to seventy five percent
of working Americans who are invested in four oh one
k's iras, pensions, or just outwardly in the market. How

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is this never brought up?

Speaker 2 (31:29):
You just brought it up beautifully, Thank you, Dexter.

Speaker 1 (31:33):
Hey, Mandy, I've said this forever. You cannot name an
individual market that the government is involved in that isn't
highly skewed to the ridiculously expensive. That is one hundred
percent correct. When you look at the things that see
the highest levels of insurance or excuse me, inflation over
the last thirty years, inevitably they are areas with the
greatest government intervention, higher education, medicine. Anytime government has its

(31:57):
fingers in the pie, nothing is made less expensive. I've
gone over, many, many, many times here on the show,
multiple ways that we can inject real market influences to
the healthcare system. And I'm not talking about emergency care.
I'll say it right now. I can do it in
three minutes, and I've done it so many times. Healthcare

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needs to be divided into two categories.

Speaker 2 (32:20):
Emergency care.

Speaker 1 (32:21):
You have a heart attack, you get hit by a bus,
you go and you have insurance for that and that alone.
And then you have what I like to call scheduled care.
Scheduled care works like this. Imagine if your insurance company.
You called your insurance companies said I got to have
a hip replacement. They said, great, We're going to give
you eight thousand dollars to get your hair replaced. You
can spend it wherever you want. If you don't spend
it all. You can keep the rest of the money.

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You just have to submit the bills and we will
give you the entire eight thousand dollars, just we have
to make sure that you actually have the surgery and
they're not trying to rip us off. Now, you have
a bunch of hip providers, people orthopedic surgeons. All they
do is hip replacements. They then go in the free
market and they say, you know what, I know you're
gonna get eight for that hip replacement. We'll do it
for seventy five hundred. You get to keep the five

(33:04):
hundred bucks. All of the costs are absolutely predictable. Anything
that you have to schedule. Maybe you buy a health
insurance plan like the one that they have at Pinnacle
Advanced Primary Care, where you're a member in a medical
practice and you're paying any extra little cost here and there.
That's how you handle all of your basic scheduled care.

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And then you have what used to be called a
catastrophic plan that kicked in after five thousand dollars kicked
in eighty some ninety percent, and that's just for emergency care.
But it doesn't cover you at your visits. It doesn't
cover any of that stuff and checked real competition, and
that is how you bring down the cost of health care.
What we're doing now is going to health insurers who

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have no control over the cost of health care and
telling them that they have to make it work, while
we're not asking hospitals or hospital systems to do anything
to lower the cost of health care. You know what,
I love walking into a doctor or to a hospital
knowing that the doctors are absolutely phenomenal. But do I

(34:12):
really need marble floors? Do I really need the nicest
fixtures in the world in the bathrooms. Hospitals spend a
lot of money on that stuff. They have no incentive
not to. Until we fix that problem, we will never
bring down the cost of health care. And Medicare for
all will seem very, very appealing to people who are
currently priced out of the system. It may be the

(34:35):
year that we talk to a lot of independence in
Colorado that are running for office, because there are a
lot of people who have sort of realized that maybe
they're maybe we need options. I'm trying to think of
the best way to say this. I'm going to try
and say it delicately. I think Republicans are going to

(34:57):
have a really hard time getting elected.

Speaker 2 (35:00):
So what do people who.

Speaker 1 (35:02):
Care about things that normally would have been Republican things
like debt deficit spending, where do they go? My next
guest is hoping to offer an alternative, and that's Bob Chu.
He is running as an independent. He is affiliated with
the Forward Party. And Bob, I want to ask you
this because I said it earlier, and after I said it,
I thought, I don't know if that's accurate. The Forward
Party has yet to achieve major party status yet in Colorado?

Speaker 2 (35:26):
Is that accurate?

Speaker 4 (35:29):
That is accurate?

Speaker 5 (35:30):
They are a minor party, right, a recognized minor.

Speaker 1 (35:34):
Party, so I and I do I do believe that
they will be. I out of all of the third
parties that have popped up over the years, I feel
like the Forward Party has a solid structure and an
infrastructure built, and I do think that they have the
best chance to move forward to become a major party
out of all the minor parties that I've been aware of.

(35:56):
How did you get involved with the Forward Party? Tell
me a little bit about yourself and tell my audi
so a little bit about you.

Speaker 4 (36:03):
Well, First, thank you for having me on your show.

Speaker 5 (36:06):
I am running for the United States Senate because Colorado
needs an independent problem solver who will fight to make
life more affordable, defend democracy in our constitution, and put
the country on sound fiscal footing before the two major
parties completely destroy opportunity for the next generation.

Speaker 4 (36:29):
I believe in America.

Speaker 5 (36:30):
I am running to fix today's problems and prevent tomorrow's crisis.
My campaign is centered on one goal, restoring American dream
for all generations. This means ensuring every American has the
opportunity to receive a quality education, find meaningful work, raise

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a family, live in a safe and affordable community, obtain
high quality, affordable healthcare, and enjoy a better quality of
life and a standard of living than the generation before them.
Mandy I served on a nuclear submarine and I later
built a global business, creating hundreds of jobs. I believe

(37:17):
we can fix our dysfunctional government by moving beyond partisan
narratives and the constant political fighting. Instead, let's focus on practical,
data driven solutions that get to the root causes of problems.
My campaign is about bringing people together to tackle difficult

(37:38):
problems honestly and preserve the American dream for generations to come.
That's fundamentally why I got in the race Ford Party
has values, they don't have a platform, so I'm free
to come up with my own platform and policy items.

Speaker 1 (37:56):
Let me stop you there, Bob, because nothing I don't
disagree with everything you just said sounds fantastic, but I'm
going to be honest. I've heard that exact same thing
from candidates for the last twenty five years. What I'm
looking for and what my listeners are looking for is
let's talk about your plans. Let's talk about those values.
Let's talk about those ideas that you have that you
would like to drive forward. Let's get into some specifics.

(38:16):
And you know that I am very focused on debt.
I have no confidence in Democrats or Republicans to manage
or even even pass a budget at this point. That's
I mean, that's how.

Speaker 2 (38:28):
Bad it is.

Speaker 1 (38:28):
Right, So, what is the bobch plan to tackle spending, debt, deficit?
What would you want to see happen?

Speaker 5 (38:37):
Well, first, I don't want to get to policy wonkish
here on this show. My website bobche twenty twenty six
dot com has detailed policy positions on these and other issues,
and under the national debt issue, it's got a.

Speaker 4 (38:56):
Fifteen page paper about what.

Speaker 5 (38:58):
I want to do about it. But let's talk about
why this is important. National debt is crowding out our
ability to take care of the basic needs of our citizens.
The interest on that debt is now fifteen percent of
our overall budget. It's driving up interest rates, which drive

(39:20):
up the cost of houses through mortgage rates, auto loan rates,
student loan rates. It's making life more unaffordable, and someday
it's going to come crashing down on us. Let's not
wait for that crash. Let's deal with it now.

Speaker 2 (39:38):
Okay, So how do you deal with it?

Speaker 5 (39:40):
Well, the debt's about equal to our GDP not quite
forty trillion.

Speaker 4 (39:46):
Dollars, and over the next twenty.

Speaker 5 (39:49):
Five thirty years, a whole lot of money is going
to pass from one generation to another, like one hundred
and thirty trillion dollars. Need to reform how that money
is taxed when it's passed from one generation to another.
We have a current scheme, but it doesn't generate very

(40:09):
much revenue. If we can earmark that revenue for national
debt reduction from the get go, it will start to
whittle down our debt. I think we'll see an immediate
drop in interest rates, which will make life more affordable
for the average American in very short order.

Speaker 4 (40:33):
Separately, we deal with.

Speaker 5 (40:35):
The deficit spending, and I've got a separate plan for
that too.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
So that sounds like a state tax.

Speaker 5 (40:40):
So fundamentally, the two major parties will not deal with
this issue because the solutions are not popular or easy.

Speaker 4 (40:50):
They're hard for real courage for real solutions.

Speaker 1 (40:55):
It sounds like you're talking about it as state tax.

Speaker 4 (40:59):
Yeah, we got to chain how we do that.

Speaker 5 (41:01):
Let's again, let's not get too wonk Ash here on
the show, but.

Speaker 2 (41:05):
I do want to get Wonkash.

Speaker 1 (41:06):
I'm not trying to be disrespectful, but you know there
are things that these things that when you bring up
in a state tax, that tells me a lot about
the way you view, you know, an American's dollars. Let
me just give you my view on a state planning.
In a state taxes every dollar that I have accumulated
in my estate that I want to live to leave

(41:27):
to my children. A lot of that is directly related
to the hours of my life that I have given
up working for someone else, and decisions that I've made
and all of those things. What right does the government
have to take that after I'm dead.

Speaker 5 (41:40):
I have thought about this for three or four years,
and the debt is such a big problem that we
need a big solution.

Speaker 4 (41:52):
There are no.

Speaker 5 (41:53):
Easy solutions, all right. To me, this is the least solution.
You're going to die.

Speaker 4 (42:02):
You earned it.

Speaker 5 (42:03):
You can spend it as you want, all right, but
then you're going to die, and then it's going.

Speaker 4 (42:09):
To go wherever.

Speaker 5 (42:11):
Okay, we're all created equal, and the wealth is being
concentrated in a smaller and smaller fraction of our society.
The top twenty percent of us hold one hundred and
thirty trillion in wealth.

Speaker 4 (42:28):
Okay, I have no problem if.

Speaker 5 (42:31):
Eighty trillion of that goes to the airs and whatever,
but let's let the other go to reduce our national debt.
My generation got us into this mess, and I feel
a civic responsibility to offer a real solution so that
the next generation doesn't.

Speaker 4 (42:51):
Get crushed by it.

Speaker 6 (42:53):
Okay, Yeah, that's integrity.

Speaker 2 (42:56):
Okay, I see that. I hear that.

Speaker 1 (43:00):
I have a much different view of that. And I
don't even have that much wealth for me. I've always
attached that to It goes to the people who you
didn't spend time with over their lifetimes because you were
working for that money and you were accumulating that wealth.

Speaker 2 (43:13):
Well, let's move on. Let's move on. Let's not get
bogged down.

Speaker 1 (43:15):
What are some of the other issues that are very
important to you as you're running for the Usnate.

Speaker 4 (43:20):
Well, the affordability issue.

Speaker 5 (43:23):
Now, I've looked at a lot of elements that are
making life unaffordable, and most of them are due to
government actions. So if government's the cause of unaffordability, government
can fix on affordability. And some examples, the tariffs drove

(43:44):
up cost of building materials, okay, our national debt drives
up cost of mortgage interest rates. Regulation around building codes
to make homes more energy efficient and fire resistant. Those
are all good things, but they add up words of
twenty five percent to the cost of a new home.

Speaker 4 (44:07):
Let's be honest with.

Speaker 5 (44:09):
The real causes and decide how we're going to address
those root causes. Localities zone things for bigger houses because
it's more tax revenue. Okay, So let's just be honest
with ourselves as to what's driving on affordability. Transportation, the
war in Iran, obviously, to tariffs and other factors, the weather,

(44:33):
we can't control the weather driving up food costs. All right,
let's find the root causes energy. Colorado pays a lot
more for energy than the surrounding states, and it's because
we've rushed the transition to greener, renewable energy sources. We

(44:56):
need all of the above approach to energy. I lived
eight worked and slept twenty yards from the core of
a nuclear reactor for weeks on end when I was
underwater on a nuclear submarine.

Speaker 4 (45:12):
Forty years later, I don't have cancer. I don't even
glow in the dark. Okay.

Speaker 5 (45:20):
Anyways, nuclear power can be done safely, and it's a
reliable source of energy. So let's embrace an all the
above approach and be honest with ourselves the elements that
are driving unaffordability.

Speaker 1 (45:35):
So a lot of that stuff that you just mentioned
is a local issue. Zoning is a local issue. The
regulatory structure in Colorado that drives up the home prices,
that's a local issue. Now, on the nuclear issue, as
a member of the US Senate, you could clear the
decks a little bit to make more space, or make
sure that regulations are not excessive that drive up the

(45:56):
cost of any kind of nuclear generation and I'm all
for that, but it was like, there's a lot of
issues there that would be locally driven. How does that
play into a US Senate race.

Speaker 5 (46:06):
Well, you're right, it doesn't, all right, But you know,
recently the House and the Senate passed an affordable housing
bill and a lot of noise was made about private equity.

Speaker 4 (46:19):
Owning homes and we're going to limit that.

Speaker 5 (46:21):
Well, private equity owns a very tiny fraction of homes.
So again there's the narrative that sometimes people get all
worked up about in that drives policy that doesn't fix
the problem. Okay, let's look at what's really driving things
that fix the problem at the national level.

Speaker 4 (46:41):
Again, it's our national debt.

Speaker 5 (46:43):
It's driving up interest rates, driving up the cost of mortgages,
and tariff policy driving up the cost of materials.

Speaker 4 (46:53):
So let's be honest with ourselves. I'm an engineer.

Speaker 5 (46:57):
Engineers study and fix problems, not a politician.

Speaker 1 (47:01):
So but here's the problem. You are a politician if
you're running for office. Now you're jumping into that phrase.
So I want you to think like a politician and
answer this question.

Speaker 2 (47:09):
You can elected. The US Senate.

Speaker 1 (47:11):
The House passes another continuing resolution with just giant poor,
you know, packed with crap and garbage that's been in
there for years.

Speaker 2 (47:17):
Do you vote against it?

Speaker 5 (47:22):
I've been working with a number of independent veterans running
across the country for the US Senate.

Speaker 4 (47:27):
There's six of us, all right, and four.

Speaker 5 (47:31):
Of us have come together and we've come up with
a governing platform, and one of those things is that
we're going to pass budgets on time. Another is that
we're not going to use reconciliation to jam through trillion
dollar packages of legislation. We're going to restore sixty votes

(47:52):
for federal judges and Supreme Court judges, and if enough
of us get elected, we will have outsized power to
make some of these changes real.

Speaker 1 (48:03):
So what would be the first thing that you would
want to tackle? Say you get elected, you're an independence,
so you don't necessarily you're not going to have chairmanships.
You know, your committee assignments are going to be more challenging.
What areas would you seek out to have influence?

Speaker 5 (48:19):
Well, first of all, ask Joe Manchin and he's now deceased.

Speaker 4 (48:27):
Joe Lieberman.

Speaker 5 (48:28):
They became independence and they retained outsized power for that
one vote that they had because they were able to
be the unbiased, non party controlled swing vote. Okay, so
comes down issue by issue what's important. You got to

(48:53):
focus both on short term problems as I mentioned, things
like affordability, but we also have to focus on our
long term issues such as getting to a closer balanced
budget and solving our national debt. Those are it's competing priorities.

(49:15):
The fundamental thing, though, is listening to Colorado voters, not
party politics, not party narratives. That's where being an independent
really comes into play.

Speaker 4 (49:28):
I can listen to the voters.

Speaker 5 (49:30):
I can vote what is in their best and not
the interest of the party bosses.

Speaker 1 (49:34):
So you've been traveling the state, I'm assuming as you're campaigning,
as all good candidates do. What are people telling you?
What are you seeing as you're out there talking to people?
Because Colorado, I feel like Colorado we have a very
loud and vocal progressive majority. But I'm not sure if
every rank and file Democrat necessarily agrees with melk Heros

(49:56):
or are the more extreme parts of the Democratic Party.
Are you meeting with Democrats that agree with you or
are you meeting with Republicans that agree with you? What
do you who are you talking to out there, Bob.

Speaker 4 (50:07):
So I'll give you a couple of examples. The first, broadly,
I've been going to a lot of.

Speaker 5 (50:12):
County fairs and handing out my little pamphlet and chatting
briefly with people, and.

Speaker 4 (50:20):
They are so enthused to know that there is a
veteran running as an independent.

Speaker 5 (50:27):
And by the way, he's an engineer and he built
a business and created jobs. They're all in for that.
I would say about ninety percent of the people that
I've been meeting at county fairs are very welcoming positive.
Not all of them have said they're vote for me,
but they're more than happy to look into me. Recently,

(50:50):
I had a meet and greet down in Jefferson County
with people who are very engaged and all and we
discussed policy.

Speaker 4 (51:03):
And details and they came away.

Speaker 5 (51:06):
Some of them were right leaning and some of them
were left leaning. Several of them said they had in
the past supported Hickenlooper, but they were looking for something different.

Speaker 4 (51:18):
So I am resonating with the vast middle.

Speaker 5 (51:23):
You know, fifty two of Colorados are not registered Republican
or Democrat, so the majority of us are independent minded.
We just have to have the courage to move beyond
the party.

Speaker 4 (51:38):
Narratives, the fear that, oh, if you vote for an independent,
the other guy's going to win. We can't have that,
all right.

Speaker 5 (51:46):
We got to move beyond the fear and take the
plunge and tell America that we Coloradoans are ready for
an independent voice that represents them, not the party ball.

Speaker 1 (52:00):
So let me ask you a couple I'm thinking of
about the national issues that are sort of swirling around
right now. Of course, the number one is where are
you on the Iran War?

Speaker 4 (52:12):
Well?

Speaker 5 (52:12):
Donald Trump went off half cocked, went on his gut
instincts like he does with just about everything, didn't.

Speaker 4 (52:22):
Have a real plan in place.

Speaker 5 (52:25):
All I can say is Iran is a bad actor.
Iran is the main cause of discontent. Iran is the
worst enemy of the Palestinians because it's made them pawns
in its quest for regional dominance. It kills thousands of

(52:46):
its own people. It's hell been on getting nuclear weapons.
So Iran is a bad actor. But we went about
it obviously in a very unthought about way. We didn't
get a global coalition the way George Bush did back
in ninety ninety one, when Saddam Hussein invaded Kuwait.

Speaker 4 (53:09):
That's the playbook you gotta follow.

Speaker 5 (53:12):
And he didn't get any kind of consensus from Congress
or the American people before launching this ill advised adventure.

Speaker 2 (53:23):
So what do you do now?

Speaker 5 (53:26):
Well, if I were in the Senate, it's time to
invoke the War Powers Act and pair this back. I
will say that the blockade seems to which is pretty
much non kinetic at this point, seems to be the
one thing that gets the Iranian regime's attention. So given

(53:48):
where we are today, that's the chess piece that we
have to play.

Speaker 1 (53:55):
Bob you Oh sorry, Bob, we're out of time. Obviously,
we'll talk again before the election. Bob is the independent
candidate for the US Senate. He is affiliated with the
Forward Party but running as an independent. If you want
to find out more information about Bob, go to Bob
Chew and that's chew like you schew your food. Bob
che twenty twenty six dot com. I also put a

(54:18):
link on the blog to his website. Bob, I appreciate
the time I'm interested in. I'm going to do a
deep dive on all of your policy positions and the
next time you come on, you better be ready for
a nerdy wonky policy conversation because that's what we're gonna have.

Speaker 4 (54:30):
All right, all right, thank you, Mandy.

Speaker 2 (54:32):
All right having you to day, sir, thank you for that.
We will be back.

Speaker 1 (54:36):
I saw a couple of stories in the past few
days that have given me some concern. Now, the stories
themselves are pretty innocuous. There's nothing crazy in these individual
stories that most people would say, oh, we should be
concerned about this, but they're both indicative of a problem
that we have. And so just in Denver, it's across

(54:58):
the country because after the defund the police crowd got
their way. We now have police departments all over the
country that are severely understaffed, and that means that sometimes
when you call the cops, no one shows up. Case
in point so in Aurora, they have a community garden.

(55:19):
And if you know what a community garden is, it's
basically a patch of land and you get a couple
of raised beds or whatever you all contribute, I don't
know how much money or whatever, but then you can
grow a garden. And if you live in a townhouse
or you don't have a big yard, or you know,
you don't have anywhere to garden. It's a really nice place.
You can grow tomatoes and whatever you want to grow.
I love a community garden. By the way, they have

(55:39):
a community garden. And a guy shows up and starts
ripping up beehives, the start breaking cinderblocks, he's ripping out crops.
This all happened at the Denver Garden Denver Urban Garden
site near East sixteenth Avenue in Yosemite Street. So they
see this guy in there destroying their garden, busting up
their plants to in their food, and they called police

(56:03):
and the police didn't show up. Now I have no
idea what the Aurora pad he was doing. Maybe they
were out actually fighting violent crime.

Speaker 2 (56:11):
Maybe I don't know.

Speaker 1 (56:13):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (56:13):
That's not the point of the story.

Speaker 1 (56:15):
The point of this story is it took more than
three hours for the police to show up. And now
the people involved went to Denver seven and they're like, dude,
with this guy wrecked our garden. The cops didn't show up,
And I'm like, Okay, thought to myself, I wonder and
I'm not recommending this. I am not advocating for this,
and I want to be clear, I am nearly asking

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the question, and the question is what if they had
called and said, hey, this guy was destroying our community garden,
so we're holding him at gunpoint until the police get
here to arrest him. Do you think they would have
shown up faster? Story number two. I saw this on
libs of TikTok actually, and it's out of shy. Excuse me,

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Casper Wyoming. There's a small restaurant called Sweet Zoe. Sweet
Zoe posted a picture on their social media of four
people sitting at a table, and they posted this. Please
keep comments respectful. We're sharing this because small businesses deserve
respect too. Casper, we need your advice. Today at Sweet

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Zoe's a family came in ate and drank about one
hundred and thirty dollars worth of food, then left without paying.

Speaker 2 (57:26):
As a small local restaurant, this really hurts.

Speaker 1 (57:29):
The food is not just food, it's labor, ingredients, bills
and the hard work of our team.

Speaker 2 (57:34):
We don't want drama. We just want the.

Speaker 1 (57:36):
Bill taken care of. If this was a mistake, please contact.
Doesn't make it right to our restaurant owner, friends, what
do you do when people dine and dash?

Speaker 2 (57:45):
Now, the irony here.

Speaker 1 (57:48):
Is that the Casper Police Department is criticizing the owner
for publicly posting pictures of the thief, saying, quote, it's
not the most appropriate tactic.

Speaker 2 (58:00):
Do you know why the owner didn't call.

Speaker 1 (58:02):
The Casper Police Department Because in twenty twenty four the
police decided not to arrest another group who stole from
the restaurant, So why bother calling the cops? First of all,
I don't blame these people. I think it's a great idea.
Years and years years ago, I worked on a hot
talk radio station, so we had a client that is

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still open in Florida called Fairvilla Megastore. Fairvilla Megastore at
the time was the largest seller of let's just say
adult type movies. This was before the internet when you
could get them on your phone, you actually had to
go buy the DVDs. Fairvilla Megastore was that and they
sold all manner of sexy time accout, tremlts, okay, I think, toys,

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things of that nature. Fairvilla Megastore's policy when they caught
a shoplifter was to make the person hold the item
that they were stealing. They took a pitch sure of
them and they hung it on the wall right next
to the door on their shoplifter Wall of shame. So
not only did you got busted for shoplifting, you also
got busted and had your photo taken with some well,

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let's just say, embarrassing items. I'm all for shame. I
think shame is an excellent tool. I think shame is
wonderful in situations like this. Well, let's get back to
the point of me bringing this up. When people perceive
that no one is coming to help them, they are
going to help themselves. And this is how vigilante justice

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really gets started. I'm not advocating for vigil anti justice,
but I got to tell you, guys, this is one
of the reasons that I have a concealed carry permit holder.
I'm not waiting for the cops to show up when
they may or may not show up.

Speaker 2 (59:49):
I don't know what the cops are busy doing.

Speaker 1 (59:51):
I have no idea. We have no idea what the
Aurora police were doing when they didn't respond to a
call for help from a guy who, by the way,
I forgot this part of the story. The guy had
been arrested a week before for criminal mischief and all
this stuff, and of course he was back out again
to cause more problems. I don't know why the cops
aren't showing up, but one of the things that people

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who advocate for self protection with firearms have always said is,
you know, seconds count when the cops are minutes away. Unfortunately,
the cops are what hours away now, They're incredibly understaffed.
They got real crime to fight. I guess this is
concerning though. These kinds of trends don't lead to good places.

Speaker 2 (01:00:34):
They lead to people.

Speaker 1 (01:00:36):
Taking matters into their own hands, and sometimes that does
not go well. It doesn't go well for the criminals,
it doesn't go well for the people who then have
to defend themselves in court. It's just not a good scene.
I believe in self defense, Don't get me wrong. I
will always defend myself. You try to attack me or
my family, and it's you or me, you're going down.
As far as I'm concerned, and I have no problem

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saying that. I hope I never have to test that theory.
By the way, not looking for trouble, but this is
a trend that we need to pay attention to. You know,
one of the first stories that I remember when I
first got here, I think I was still on k
HOW in mornings when this happened, and I'm sure you
guys remember it too. This guy took a ton of

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pot edibles, got super whacked out, and murdered his wife.
But the part that sticks with me about this is
that she was on the phone with nine to one
one for almost thirteen minutes and they got to hear
him murder her because the cops were more than thirteen
minutes away.

Speaker 2 (01:01:38):
Never I will never forget that.

Speaker 1 (01:01:40):
You think back to when New York City was an
absolute toilet bowl of a place to go, and that's
when we have the rise of the Guardian Angels.

Speaker 2 (01:01:48):
They didn't just come out of nowhere.

Speaker 1 (01:01:49):
They came because people were no longer feeling safe on
the subway and they knew that the cops weren't going
to do anything, so they took matters into their own hands.
I'm concerned that that is where we are headed now.
As police forces are still understaffed. They are not only
the understaffed most police forces, and this is Denver's police force. Here,

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they have not upped the level of staffing the approved
level of staffing, even as population has exploded, so we
don't even have a full compliment of police officers, and
they're not even enough of them in the first place.
So what happens People start taking care of.

Speaker 2 (01:02:28):
Their own business.

Speaker 1 (01:02:30):
And though this is pretty innocuous, these two stories, that
is what I thought of. I mean, maybe I'm maybe
I'm looking too much into this, Mandy. The cops are
outsolving real crimes, like using flock cameras to accuse innocent
people of stealing stuff. God forbid, if a car gets stolen,
your house gets broken into, they just take a report

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and give you a case number.

Speaker 2 (01:02:53):
Yeah, Mandy, many years ago.

Speaker 1 (01:02:55):
We cut some people robbing my folk speed store and
followed them to their house and called the cops. They
told my dad they would be there in an hour.
My dad said, that's okay, I got a gun and
hung up the phone. Cops were there in five minutes.
I mean, I'm not saying that. If you need action now,
you know what to do, douggo. Voters will have the
chance to increase the Board of County Commissioners this fall.

(01:03:17):
The initiative to go from three commissioners to five commissioners
has made the ballot and the signatures have been verified,
so there will be an opportunity to expand the County Commission.
Normally I would be entirely against this, but the reality
is is that Douglas County has had the same number

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of commissioners three since they had a county Commission, and
Douglas County has grown enormously since then. And Douglas County
and many counties in Colorado are like this.

Speaker 2 (01:03:50):
But I think.

Speaker 1 (01:03:51):
Because Douglas County is a suburb of the Denver metro
and it does have some sort of you know, booming
towns like Rock and Parker, but it also has vast
expanses of urban excuse me, of rural areas within Douglas County,
I think it's really hard to say that three politicians

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who are elected from those urban areas are doing a
good job representing the entire county. And frankly, the current
counselor or commission has demonstrated how easy it is to
manipulate the situation by by really the way that they
treated Laura Thomas in the last not this group. Kevin
van Winkl was not on the commission then, but they

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basically disenfranchised everyone that Laura Thomas represented by locking her
out because she would not go lockstep with whatever they
wanted to do. And generally speaking, I don't care what
you think about Laura Thomas. It doesn't matter that it's
Laura Thomas. It could have been you know, John Smith,
could have been anybody. But if you've got three, it's
really easy to get those two to work together to

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completely triangulate against the third person. And a county the
size of Douglas County I think could stand better representation
because right now I don't feel represented by anybody on
the board.

Speaker 2 (01:05:09):
I truly don't. They don't care what I say.

Speaker 1 (01:05:12):
They've demonstrated that over and over again by curtailing a
public comment. I just I've never voted for bigger government.
I really haven't, and yet I find myself in a
position now of going, you know what, let's find out
because back in nineteen seventy six, Weld County, another conservative county,
went to five county commissioners, and I'm going to reach

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out to some of them and say, Okay, obviously, nineteen
seventy six was fifty years ago. I get it, but
what are the benefits of five commissioners over three?

Speaker 2 (01:05:42):
I'd like to know.

Speaker 1 (01:05:44):
We shall see, And of course, the three that are
currently on there are going to be like, no.

Speaker 2 (01:05:48):
Don't do it. It's you know, we shall.

Speaker 1 (01:05:51):
See, we shall see. Anyway, coming up to the next segment, gosh,
it's thirty two o'clock. How that coming up at two thirty,
I have the author of a book. Okay, So I
get this book in the mail and it's beautiful, and
I have no idea why someone sent me this beautiful book.

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It's called the American Book of Fables. It's outstanding. So
I take it home. I have no idea where this
came from. Then I realize that it's from my friends
at Hillsdale College, and we're going to interview the guy,
doctor Matthew Meehan, who wrote a new book of fables,
kind of based on Aesop's Fables, only he injected American

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things into those fables and he did a beautiful job.
We're going to talk to him at two thirty. But
when we get back, I just have to have a moment.
I saw this yesterday. And if you don't have little children,
and you haven't had little children over the past few years,
you may not be aware of the cartoon called Paw Patrol.
Paw Patrol. We watched a lot of Paw Patrol when

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the key was little. By the way, my daughter started
our senior year of high school today, how is that
even possible? Is like two weeks ago we were watching
Paul Patrol. Paw Patrol has a new movie out, Paw Patrol.
The entire framework of Parpatol. It's a little cartoon where
you have a little a little dog that's a cop.

(01:07:19):
You have a little dog that's a fireman. You have
a little girl dog that's a pilot. You got another
little dog that's a firefighter, or yeah, a construction guy.
And they got a new movie out, and some on
the left are coming out against Paw Patrol, the sweetest
little show about helping people and doing the right thing

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and being a good person. It's been called copaganda. Now
both sides are ruining everything. We'll talk about it next.

Speaker 2 (01:07:52):
I forgot to say, well, gome, welcome, Welcome.

Speaker 1 (01:07:55):
I want to talk about entertainment for just a moment
because a few things have bubbled up lately that I'm
just I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:08:01):
Sign of kind of at my wits end.

Speaker 4 (01:08:03):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:08:04):
I realize that Hollywood is dominated by left wingers and
there is some absolute garbage clap trap out there that
is so full of woke nonsense that I cannot stand it.

Speaker 7 (01:08:14):
What.

Speaker 1 (01:08:16):
We've reached a point now where it seems like whenever
anything comes out, someone is there from the right or
the left to tell us why it's horrible and wrong.
Now there are certain things that I can look at
the trailer and go I have no interest in seeing that, But.

Speaker 2 (01:08:31):
I don't care if you see it. I don't care.

Speaker 1 (01:08:34):
I don't have to ruin it for anybody else. Case
in point I have two cases in point here now.
Paw Patrol, as I was mentioning before the break, is
a cute little cartoon. Five little dogs, and they all
have a job, and they run around solving problems and
taking care of people. Let me read you a segment

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of a column or a story in The Economist. They
may look like a pack of cutesy, anthropomorphized dogs. No
job is too big vals their heartwarming motto no pups
too small, don't be fooled.

Speaker 2 (01:09:13):
Some say the cartoon heroes of.

Speaker 1 (01:09:15):
Paw Patrol are covert outriders for authoritarian capitalism. Keep trying,
everybody makes mistakes a win, some character urges in their
latest outing Paw Patrol, the Dino movie The haters have
a slogan too, defund the Paw Patrol. Yeah for the
blissfully uninitiated. The show is set in an idyllic but

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slightly creepy creepy adventure bay where children drive and puppies talk.
Led by a lavishly quaffed ten year old boy, a
group of heroic pups respond to mild emergencies, setting off
down a fun slide at their HQ. It is utterly formulaic,
with incessant catchphrases. Paw Patrol is on a roll and

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appalling earworm use a children's story which is only enjoyed
by children, wrote C. S. Lewis, is a bad children's story.
He would have not liked Paw Patrol. I just want
to say, as a mom, I had to watch a
lot of kid cartoons. Some of them I never want
to see again. Cayu, I'm looking at you. That show,

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Oh oh boy, that show not good. No bueno for Cayu.
But there are other shows that I would willingly watch.
My favorite kid show of all time, Jack's Big Music Show.
They only made one season and it was an incredible
Actually they might have made two seasons incredible, and then
they canceled it for some reason, I could watch that all.
I watched that right now, Blue has an audience that

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spans every age. Apparently I do not watch Blue. I
just know about Blue and the phenomenon that Bluey has
become Blue.

Speaker 2 (01:10:54):
Of course a.

Speaker 1 (01:10:55):
Blue Australian dog, so you get cool accents there. Paw
Patrol was a cute show. I could sit and watch
pap Patrol with Little Q when she was little. Poptrol
is innocuous. It's about doing the right thing, choosing to
be a good neighbor. I mean, all of these horrible
things that have to be stopped, right, I mean, this
is what passes for high level criticism on the left, copaganda,

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authoritarian and capitalism. Are you kidding me? But let's not
think the left has has a monopoly. I'm dumb criticisms.
I've talked about this before, but lately since I talked
about it the first time, after I watched the reboot
of Little House on the Prairie, several people brought it
to my attention that people on the right are very

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unhappy with this adaptation of the books of Laura Ingalls Wilder. Now,
thank you to the texture, said up yours, COYU I
am right there with you.

Speaker 2 (01:11:50):
High five, high five.

Speaker 4 (01:11:51):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (01:11:52):
I just high five to you, man. That show's annoying anyway.
This version of Little House on the Prairie is as
accurate to the books as the beloved television show was.
They are not the same, but they are the same
level of accurate as the television show was. The television
show did not even deal with the first book like

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they just skipped. In the television show, they skipped to
the second book. Many people didn't even realize that the
first book is all about the Ingles family moving to
Kansas on the promise of freeland that was made by
a guy who was trying to bring the railroad to
their town in Independence, Kansas. So this series jumps right

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into that, and people are mad because the director of
this version of Little House on the Prairie sort of added,
not sort of, actually did add an O Sage family
to help demonstrate the negative side of western expansion when
settlers like the Ingles family showed up in Kansas for

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the promise of free land, only to find out the
land that they were on was actually owned by the
O Sage Indian tribe. And the way it's told in
this and I read a column on Daily Wire and
I oh, I was so annoyed at the end of
the column because essentially they're like they made the Ingles family,
the conservative family the villains.

Speaker 2 (01:13:21):
That's not at all what they did. You know who
the villain is in.

Speaker 1 (01:13:25):
This entire first season of Little House on the Prairie,
and there's gonna be a second season. The villain in
the end is the government. I'm here for that. That
is the message. The message is the government's going to
screw you. Whether it's the O Sage Indians, whether it's
settlers who came to Kansas looking for free land, the

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government is going.

Speaker 2 (01:13:47):
To screw you.

Speaker 1 (01:13:49):
And yet people on the right are missing the entire
everything else in this wonderfully done series, the importance of family,
the importance of of you know, working together to accomplish
something hard. But at the same time, you still get
the sort of rugged individualism that these these settlers had.

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You still get the feel of the bravery that they
had to uproot their lives that were comfortable to go
out and seek something better for themselves and their family.
I mean, man, it was it was great. It was
absolutely fantastic. So here's what I'm looking for. I guess

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I just if you don't like a movie, that's perfectly fine.
If you don't like a show, that's perfectly fine. But
what I'm tired of is people going off half cocked
without actually ever seeing the movie. Now, the girl who
wrote the column on the Daily Wire did watch the show.
But when you go into something looking for ways to
be upset and offended, you will absolutely find them. We

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find what we seek, and sometimes I would just look back,
like sit back and just watch something to just be entertained.
What I love about the new series over the old
series is that it is a far more realistic telling
of the reality of the family of Laura Ingles wild

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Wilder than even Laura Ingles Wilder did herself. She has admitted,
or she did admit. Obviously she's dead now. She admitted
that she sort of spit shined the family's history in
order to make some of the rougher edges and more
traumatic events, you know, just kind of pushed them off
to the side. I loved this. I thought it was fantastic.

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I told my son and my daughter in law that
they have to have the boys watch it when they
talk about Western expansion. Because it gives a much more
realistic view of what went on and how it went
down than anything else I've seen. And yet people on
the right are going to discard all of that because
they don't like something that was done in an artistic

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fashion to maybe make things a little more realistic.

Speaker 2 (01:16:01):
I just I can't anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:16:02):
I'm gonna go home and watch Paw Patrol instead taken
to the taking to the what am I trying to say?
The Common Spirit Common Spirit health text line at five
six six nine to oh, I can't even believe somebody
defended Kayu. First of all, that cartoon character's voice made

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you want to stab myself in my ear holes. Most
annoying voice in the history of the world. This textra
said Mandy. I don't think it helps by classifying that
people on the right think this way and people on
the left think this way. It only goes more labeling
and separation of groups.

Speaker 2 (01:16:39):
But it's factual. But they continue.

Speaker 1 (01:16:41):
I know people on all different sides of issues, but
are but are only one classification of either left or right.
I think it would be better to just say some
people don't like this or that, rather than trying to
do the additional classification. But it matters. It matters in
these contexts. It really does, because these are all political issues.

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These are all issues driven by political views. You have
those on the right that are upset because the director
of the New Little House on the Prairie has veered
in a way that they think is quote woke, because
she worked to accurately portray the impact of the Osage
people by the people like the Englis family settled in Kansas.

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I don't understand that position. They didn't make the Engles
family look bad in the process. I don't understand it.
But then you've got people on the left that hate
cops and want to make a cartoon with little dogs
driving vehicles into coppaganda. These are politically driven opinions. That's
the point. Imagine, just go with me, text her, listen, listen.

(01:17:47):
We could create a world where we didn't have to
inject politics into everything. We've done it before. Oh yeah,
we've done it before. We had whole generations that didn't
inject politics into everything. You know, there used to be
an added don't talk about money, religion, or politics.

Speaker 4 (01:18:03):
Go.

Speaker 1 (01:18:03):
Wouldn't it be glorious if we just went back to that.
But the problem is is that we have allowed government
to get so big and so powerful that they are
now a part of every aspect of our lives. So
people feel entirely justified in expressing their political views in
every aspect of their lives.

Speaker 2 (01:18:24):
It's a natural extension. The only way we.

Speaker 1 (01:18:27):
Can get back to the glorious days and when people
did not talk about politics is if we just shrunk
the size and scope of government. But I don't know
if we can do that. I don't know if it's possible.
We can't even get Congress to get serious about debt
and spending. Rand Paul just tweeted out something I saw
on the break. Let me go back and find it
very quickly. In the month of July, the US government

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collected three hundred and thirty four billion dollars.

Speaker 2 (01:18:56):
The problem is they spent seven.

Speaker 1 (01:18:59):
Hundred and sixty six billion dollars. That is a four
hundred and thirty two billion dollar deficit in one month.
That is the problem, you guys. That is the issue.
Government is so big that they're spending us into oblivion.
And by the way, that's what brings every empire down

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and has brought every empire down before us. Oh yeah,
we're doing the same old thing, thinking we're going to
be special and somehow dodge this bullet so in lessen.
Until we can significantly roll back the power and scope
of the federal government, we have a huge problem, a
huge problem. Now I'm going to talk about a story,
and I meant to do this earlier, and I'm so

(01:19:41):
mad I did not get to this earlier because I
might do it again tomorrow because I have questions. If
you're a Navy veteran, have you seen the story about
the USS Abraham Lincoln family members back home? The USS
Abraham Lincoln has been deployed for eight and a half
months now. They were supposed to go on a four
month deployment. It's now eight and a half months. They're

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an integral part of of our.

Speaker 2 (01:20:07):
War with Iran.

Speaker 1 (01:20:09):
Their deployment doesn't look like it's gonna end anytime soon.
And there are now reports that sailors are trying to
throw themselves overboard, that there's no fresh food, that there
is you know, all of these things are happening, and
I want to know because the US Navy says, unfortunately,
in every deployment, so or sorry, sailors try to throw

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themselves overboard. That mental health is an issue on every deployment.
I want to know from Navy veterans how true is that.
I'm just curious now. Craig, who goes by Curveball Colorado
on X is a former sailor. He served for twenty
years in the US Navy. He says this on an

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ex post. It's not unheard of for sailors to want
to jump off ships. We always trained on this and
always did man overboard drills. Was very common for some
jackass to throw a chem light in the water where
they forced a man overboard drill in the middle of
the night. No one I knew of was never successful
in jumping overboard out in the middle of the ocean
and surviving or getting to dry land. There have been

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occurrences of sailors going overboard and never being recovered. Essentially,
I just want to know if this is something that
unfortunately happens in these situations, or is this something that
we need to address And are we talking about it

(01:21:33):
because it's Trump's Navy, or are we talking about it
because these are new problems and we need to address them.

Speaker 2 (01:21:39):
I don't know the answer to this. Text me.

Speaker 1 (01:21:42):
Navy Veterans five six six nine zero. When we get back,
we're going to talk about the most beautiful storybook. You
don't own yet, but you should. We'll do that next.
Doctor Matthew Mehan. He's the Associate Dean and Associate Professor
of Government for the Van Andal Graduate School of Government
at Hillsdale College's wah A, DC campus. He's also the
author of what I can only describe as the most

(01:22:05):
beautiful pro America, Happy America twenty two hundred and fiftieth
birthday book called The American Book of Fables. It is gorgeous.
First of all, doctor Meh, and welcome the show.

Speaker 6 (01:22:18):
Thanks for having me, Mandy, and appreciate those kind words
about the book too.

Speaker 1 (01:22:22):
Well. First of all, your people at Hillsdale. I had
chatted with them about having you are on the show,
and then I forgot that. I said, send me a
copy of the book. So I get this box in
the mail of this really rather large book and.

Speaker 2 (01:22:34):
I opened it.

Speaker 1 (01:22:35):
I was like, this is glorious. Where did this come from?
And I had to wait for another email to remind
me that it was actually from Hillsdale And get you
on the show. First of all, explain how you thumbnails like,
what's your elevator speech on this book.

Speaker 2 (01:22:48):
What is this book?

Speaker 6 (01:22:51):
The book is a love letter to America for her
two hundred and fiftieth birthday, and what I referred to
it as a kind of gratitude making machine. We've lost
our habit of patriotism and being grateful to God, to country,
to our forefathers, to our founders, to our fellow citizens,
and to our families who settled this country. And the

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whole book is a sort of a road tour of
thirteen regions of the country, explaining the declaration of independence
line by line, phrase by phrase, through sections for littles, middles,
and bigs, so nursery rhymes for littles, old and new,
fables for middle graders, old and new, and then primary
sources from the founding and settlement and history of the country,

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as well as poems and short stories old and new,
written by me and others. And it's basically a beautifully
illustrated account of our founding but also the great settlement
of this country to refoster gratitude in the hearts of
our whole family. It's not a children's book, it's a
family book.

Speaker 1 (01:23:56):
It kind of reminds me of and I cannot remember
the name of the series. When I was a kid
in the seventies, there was a series of almost encyclopedias,
but they weren't encyclopedias, and they would have one book
on poetry and one book on stories and things of
that nature. It kind of feels like that in one
book about the United States. But I want to ask

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you about the reworking of the Fables specifically, because I
thought that was super interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:24:22):
Where did that idea come from?

Speaker 1 (01:24:24):
And how did you go about trying to decide which
morality tale to throw in there.

Speaker 6 (01:24:30):
Yes, I'm a professor of government, but I got a
PhD in literature and how literature can help teach leadership
and civics, and that's what I did my studies on.
And so I've always seen the fable tradition as the
preferred art form of free peoples because it's actually a
way of training what Ben Franklin called witty, wise citizens.

(01:24:50):
And we at the time of the founding had every bookshelf,
had Lestrange, Caxton or Lafontaine, all of these really cool,
very complex books of fables. Not just for kids. We
think of fables as something for little kids in primary school,
but the fable books were actually for the whole family,
and their upper register was really complicated to teach us

(01:25:13):
how to be sort of witty wise citizens, or as
the Gospel of Matthew put it, whys and serpents innocent
as doves, which is no small feat.

Speaker 4 (01:25:22):
Right.

Speaker 6 (01:25:22):
There's this notion of wit training our cleverness, not just
how to be good, but how to be good in
a way that we can shift for ourselves, govern ourselves,
take care of ourselves. That kind of limited government, republican education.
Fables is it. And no one had done an updating
of the fable tradition in three hundred years. It was

(01:25:44):
pre Founding era, so it was kind of this massive
open lane to do a great, big work.

Speaker 1 (01:25:49):
Well, in my mind, fables sort of also provide a
more entertaining way to reinforce morality, right. I mean it's
like you can read the Bible, of course you can,
but at that time and have the international version or
the more modern translation, so it could be a bit
of a bit of work to get through the Bible.
Whereas you can take one of these fables, they become

(01:26:09):
very accessible. You don't have to become a religious person,
but they still instill the same value system.

Speaker 6 (01:26:15):
Yeah, it is the sort of the old line of
what is the ethical duty of a poet. He's both
to delight and instruct And sometimes we have all delight
with no instruction, and sometimes we have a lot of
instruction with no delight. And so the fables are exactly that,
a very good sort of spoonful of sugar with the
medicine to go down. But I also, you know, it's America.

(01:26:36):
We are an innovative people, so I innovated on it.
It's not just the Boy who Cried Wolf. It's the
Boy who Cried Wolf that takes place just south of Kittiehawk,
next to the Red Wolf Preserve of the eastern East
Coast species, the last vestige of that population. And he
fires instead of crying wolf, he fires a signal rocket
as a nod to the invention of flight and Cape

(01:26:58):
Canaveral in the space thing in the family that hires
them is actually the local family from that era. So
each of the fables weaves parts of our local ecology,
our local history, and the Boy of Kried Wolf is
actually to explain the part of the Declaration of Independence
we hold these truths. What does it mean to hold
fast to the truth. It's a very difficult proposition to

(01:27:21):
remain truthful even under pressure.

Speaker 1 (01:27:23):
Well, one of the things I really like about the
book is that it's sort of there were times when
I was and I have not read the whole thing.
It's quite large. I mean, this is a this is
a week.

Speaker 6 (01:27:33):
Yeah, it's three hundred and ninety six pages.

Speaker 1 (01:27:35):
It's a weighty tome, as they say. But as I
was flipping through, there were things I was reminded of that.
You know, I'm fifty seven years old. It's been a
hot minute since I sat in history class. So for me,
it was like, oh yeah, I forgot about that, and
I forgot about how these things go together. So it's
a really easy way to sort of reinforce what you
learned many, many years ago and have not thought about since,

(01:27:57):
without having to go back and dig through.

Speaker 2 (01:27:59):
The dry history.

Speaker 1 (01:27:59):
But why did you decide? Did you do it on
purpose into coincide with our two hundred and fiftieth birthday?
Was that coincidental? Has this been on the back burner
until now? Or was that purposeful?

Speaker 6 (01:28:14):
So this is my third best selling illustrated book, and
the first one was actually mister me AND's mildly amusing
mythical mammals. But I also had and an annamuralia attached
as an addendum, and the publisher wisely said, that's lots
of alliteration and too big a book. So I had
always wanted to work on the fable tradition, and I've
been practicing that genre, which is it's actually a you

(01:28:38):
take some practice to get a hang of doing it well.
And so I've always been wanting to update the fable
tradition for America. But about five six years ago I
realized that the two hundred and fiftieth was the perfect opportunity.
And then I sort of realized, oh, I can do
instead of the lion and the tiger and the elephant,
I can do the manatee, the buffalo and the beaver

(01:29:02):
and actually sort of explore our nature, which really hasn't
been done. I mean, the fable tradition is part of it.
Why it makes us witty wise about morals is we
think of moral types that help us, like the lion
king of the jungle, the tyrant right who might roar,
and the mouse that can. It turns out that a
squeaky mouse meaning a little a good conscience and a

(01:29:22):
wise mouth from a citizen who doesn't have any power
can actually bring down or help a king.

Speaker 4 (01:29:28):
Right.

Speaker 6 (01:29:28):
It's sort of there's all these little moral types, and
that's in the natural kingdom, and they're very easy to
use for us to think things through. But the beaver
that's never really been sung properly, and it turns out
the beaver's a great lesson in how to use technology properly.
He wants to build a damn no matter what, right,
and sometimes it's not the right place to build a
damn right. So the desire to just kind of invent

(01:29:51):
without any controls is sort of like a moral type
that we have to sort of think through, especially while
we're navigating AI. So I want to having lots of
fun with the American animals to teach about new moral
problems that Americans face.

Speaker 2 (01:30:05):
I'm just going to say this.

Speaker 1 (01:30:06):
I am a theater major, don't judge, but one of
the things I thought would be great is if there
was some kind of like little if you turned some
of these fables into scripts for kids to act out
in class, because that was one of the things I
loved doing when I was a kid, and one of
the things.

Speaker 2 (01:30:24):
I mean, I don't even remember what great I was.

Speaker 1 (01:30:25):
In maybe third or fourth we acted out some of
Aesop's Fables. Now, I went to Catholic schools, so these
are basically morality tales, and it stuck with me. And
I cannot tell you how many times I invoke the
Emperor having no clothes on a regular basis because it
applies to so much of what we see in society.
So I know you guys do curriculum stuff at Hillsdale

(01:30:48):
four schools, and you have charter schools that.

Speaker 2 (01:30:51):
You're intimately connected with.

Speaker 1 (01:30:53):
I would love to see this book become a part
of some of those and those new tales for kids
about technology and things that resonate with them with the
same underlying lessons. Have you guys thought about incorporating this
book into any of the you know, the curriculum stuff
that you guys do, because I think it'd be great.

Speaker 4 (01:31:10):
Yeah, we are.

Speaker 6 (01:31:11):
We're working on that right now, actually, to have the
American Book of Fables be a required summer course that
then our summer class our summer book for reading, but
then also integrate some of it into class. I'm also
working with a few online academies. I just had a
meeting yesterday to start including it as part of the
middle school civics. So that's a slow I'm going to
keep working on this. This book is a big magnum opis.

(01:31:33):
This is a two hundred year book, so I've got
time and I'm just going to be continuing. But I
appreciate the word of the word of endorsement for that,
because I think that is very good for that kind
of work, and it's just only going to increase overtime.

Speaker 2 (01:31:48):
Now the nursery rhymes, how did those come about?

Speaker 6 (01:31:53):
So I've noticed and a lot of educators have notice
that nursery I'm just starting to fall out of our
public memory, and they're very important for teaching people rhyme, song, beauty.
But there are also littlenemonic devices to remember little things
about morality, about history, and we've sort of forgotten that tradition.
So I have in every section melodies from father Goose.

(01:32:14):
I couldn't call myself mother Goose. That was a little
too off brand, but so melodies from Father Goose. And
I take some old ones that you're familiar with, like
Hickory Dickory doc and Humpty Dumpty. But I also update
a number of them, and then I write my own
that fit and explain the various parts of the Declaration
of Independence and the sort of the moral life of

(01:32:35):
a free people. And so I think that's an important
thing to do, and it's actually an art form of
like compressing things that have deep messages in And by
the way, Mandy back to acting these things out as scripts.
I know you haven't gotten to this because it's towards
the end, but when you get to the Upper Missouri
to the bad Lands, the last story is actually a
play within a play where a homeschool co op of

(01:32:58):
blackfooted ferrets actually put on a play inside of this
this story with Hugh the manate, who's sort of the
lead character I mean as well, of course, and episodically
throughout each of the chapters. And so there's I'm basically
sort of signaling exactly what you're saying in the book
of like, hey, folks, you can actually sort of turn
these into plays and scripts. And I actually we are

(01:33:21):
talking about doing a kind of radio program of a
number of sort of short Oh yeah, that would be cool.

Speaker 1 (01:33:29):
That would be very very cool if you did actual
radio plays. You know, it's kind of funny to know
how things have come full circle. We've gone from radio
only back in the day to television and then or
movies than television, and now we have radio shows that
are back to where we started, which are dramatic performances
that would be fantastic. The book is beautiful, it is

(01:33:51):
It is weighty, but it has so much cool stuff.
Who did the illustrations on this thing? Because they are stunning.

Speaker 6 (01:33:58):
My dear friend Folly is a realist impression st artist.
This is our third book together, uh and we work
hand in glove with each image to design it and
really make it thematically symbolic and rich. And he can
he can trace his master apprentice line all the way
back through the Boston school to the Cultivol Arts in
Paris to Rayfield's workshop in Florence, like all the way back.

(01:34:20):
So he is, he is best in show. He slums
with me and it's great. So well, he's amazing.

Speaker 1 (01:34:27):
It's a beautiful book. It's a great book. It's one
of those books that as you thumb through you are
given so many more reasons to remember that you should
be proud as you know what to be an American
and uh, doctor Matthew Mehan, thank you for your time today,
and thank.

Speaker 2 (01:34:42):
You for the beautiful book.

Speaker 1 (01:34:44):
When you're ready to, you know, start acting stuff out,
I think that I would make an amazing blue footed
ferret on the radio. So if you need another voice,
just let me know. I'd be happy to contribute for
this very worthy project.

Speaker 6 (01:34:57):
Once a theater kid, always a theater kid, Mandy tru Forever.

Speaker 1 (01:35:01):
Thanks so much for your time today, Doctor Mihn, thank you. Okay,
bye bye. Yeah, the book is stunning. It's huge, it's
like a doorstop, it's it's really fantastic. I have some
great responses from my navy veterans on the text line.
I'm gonna grab these and we're going to talk about
that story tomorrow because I need more perspective. What else

(01:35:21):
are you missing on the blog today? So very much,
so very much, including a video of oh my gosh,
Johnny Depp as Ebenezer Scrooge. I'm here for that. I
can't wait to see his action as well, Christmas.

Speaker 3 (01:35:37):
Carol, great method actor, another tool in the tool shed, exactly, Johnny.

Speaker 1 (01:35:42):
Plus, we're trying to get somebody on a story out
today from our friends at Club twenty about how the
Colorado Parks and Wildlife Commission.

Speaker 2 (01:35:50):
The new fur bearer limits.

Speaker 1 (01:35:52):
The cake was baked before the meetings started, and what
they're doing over there is eugh, oh so bad, just
so badly No, no fur bearer, not ferbie, okay, fur bearer.
And speaking of bears, there's a story today about how
bears are out and about in neighborhoods because there's so

(01:36:15):
little food in their normal habitat that they're now coming
into neighborhoods. Let me just say this about bears. You please,
for the love of God, take in your bird feeders,
don't leave your trash out. Because once a bear becomes
a nuisance bear, here's what happens.

Speaker 2 (01:36:31):
They relocate and tag the bear one time.

Speaker 1 (01:36:33):
If you see a bear in your neighborhood with a
green tag, it's already been relocated once, and when it
is identified as a nuisance bear the second time, they
kill the bear. So if you love seeing the bears
in your neighborhood, that's great, But if you are providing
any kind of food that is going to create a
nuisance bear, you're gonna get that bear killed. That's just
the way it is. So please, if you see a

(01:36:54):
bear in your yard and it looks like it's head
to do a bird feeder or your trash can make
some loud noise, scare the crap out of it. Let
it know that your neighborhood is not a place to
come for food, not just for the benefit of you
and your family and your pets, but for the benefit.

Speaker 2 (01:37:08):
Of the bear.

Speaker 1 (01:37:09):
Okay, look, you know, I don't know about your next
door Ryan Edwards, but people in my neighborhood.

Speaker 2 (01:37:15):
I got tons of videos.

Speaker 1 (01:37:16):
Oh look, this bear was a bird feeder. I'm like,
you're gonna get the bear killed. Bring in your bird feeder.
The bears will eventually.

Speaker 2 (01:37:22):
Move out again.

Speaker 1 (01:37:23):
Hopefully with all this rain there's going to be more
grass and stuff for them to eat. But it's not
cute to feed animals because you're going to get them destroyed.
We have this problem in Florida when people feed alligators.
Inevitably the alligator will end up being killed because they
lose their fear of humans and etcetera, et cetera.

Speaker 2 (01:37:41):
They're wild animals.

Speaker 1 (01:37:42):
They're not going to come in and clean your house
and sing a Disney song while they're doing it. Okay,
let's just all move on from that. Because Ryan Edwards
is here and now it's time for the most exciting
segment on the radio. I guy, the world startled me.
I'm no big when you're here. You make me better? Okay,

(01:38:03):
you do you make because I know you're bringing it.
I know that it's starting to be I know, have control.

Speaker 2 (01:38:09):
Nah, you know why he.

Speaker 1 (01:38:10):
Had his eyes closed because he was going so big
with it. Hang on on the copy of these text
messages real quick. All right, what is our dad joke
of the day?

Speaker 2 (01:38:17):
Please?

Speaker 3 (01:38:18):
Why was the CEO of a leading prosthetics company arrested?

Speaker 2 (01:38:24):
Fake something? He didn't have a leg to stand on.

Speaker 3 (01:38:27):
They found out he was involved in international arms dealing?

Speaker 2 (01:38:30):
Nice? Good, good. That one is a good one.

Speaker 1 (01:38:35):
I like that one. Uh yeah, we'll keep that one.
That's a keeper right there. All right, Today's word of
the day, please.

Speaker 2 (01:38:42):
Is an adjective invidious? Invidious?

Speaker 1 (01:38:46):
Invidious?

Speaker 2 (01:38:47):
No, that doesn't mean you work at Nvidia invidious? Hum,
I mean I know what insidious mean? Yes, I don't
know what invidious me. I don't know. I have no idea.

Speaker 3 (01:38:57):
You used to describe things that are unpleasant and likely
to cause add feelings and other people?

Speaker 2 (01:39:01):
All right, kind of sounds like insidios.

Speaker 1 (01:39:03):
Yeah, yeah, a little bit, just a little change there,
all right, Today's trivia question. Who starred as Captain Jean
lu Picard in Star Trek The Next Generation?

Speaker 3 (01:39:13):
We all know who that is? Patrick Georgan of course. Yeah,
Patrick's thinking of the New age too, my mind.

Speaker 1 (01:39:20):
Nor By the way, we watched Jeopardy at home and
we tape it. We take so I was watching his
Jeopardy from like two weeks ago. I got every single
answer in the first half, second half. Let's just say
the wheels flew off a little bit, but I would
have added your commanding lead. No one would have been

(01:39:40):
able to catch me, even the daily doubles I was.
I just want everybody to be as impressed as I
was with myself. The next show did not go as well,
and forget Tournament of Champions. Let's just forget it. Forget it. Oh,
that's not normal people in that Tournament of Champions anyway.
What is our Jeopardy category?

Speaker 3 (01:39:56):
Words with double letters and the W of words has quotations?
A ka, everything starts with W yes words with double letters.
It's a gentle, high pitched nay manny. What is a
winning correct? Okay, it's what the astronaut is experiencing.

Speaker 2 (01:40:19):
What is weightlessly? Weightlessness?

Speaker 3 (01:40:23):
Yeahs, yeah, yeah, let's let's do no.

Speaker 2 (01:40:27):
Negative but no point.

Speaker 1 (01:40:28):
Okay, we'll just watch that out.

Speaker 2 (01:40:31):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:40:32):
Marconi shared a Nobel Prize in physics for his contributions
to the development of this type of telegraphy.

Speaker 1 (01:40:41):
Telegraphy, I don't even know what that is.

Speaker 2 (01:40:46):
The answer is what is wireless? Dumb?

Speaker 3 (01:40:51):
The current lineup of this group that's been entertaining kids
the world for entertainment.

Speaker 2 (01:40:57):
Yeah, yeah, correct, that's good. What's hiscore two to zero?

Speaker 3 (01:41:01):
Followers of this modern day religious movement often practice in
groups called covens.

Speaker 1 (01:41:07):
Manny, oh gosh, what is wicka wickeds? They're wickedsa Yeah,
that one.

Speaker 4 (01:41:12):
That's right.

Speaker 3 (01:41:13):
Yeah, I know there are probably no point, but no
negative that you winday, thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:41:17):
Very much, thank you very much, right win wins. We
know Bo's not playing Friday Night.

Speaker 2 (01:41:26):
What else do we know?

Speaker 7 (01:41:28):
Well, we know these starters are expected to play ten
to fifteen snaps, which means, you know, let's.

Speaker 2 (01:41:33):
Say, ten to fifteen seconds.

Speaker 1 (01:41:34):
Okay, guys, get out there. Okay, guys, I mean if
you missed the first ten minutes of a preseason game,
you've missed everyone.

Speaker 2 (01:41:41):
You've ever heard of kind of in a lot of ways.

Speaker 7 (01:41:43):
Yeah, yeah, but this is an interesting one because the
Broncos starters are kind of established. Like for me who's
been out of there camp, this is an opportunity to
see those back end roster competitions.

Speaker 1 (01:41:54):
These and these are the guys fighting for a spot
a lot of time, so that.

Speaker 2 (01:41:57):
Makes it interesting time to see Red and Wall I
read Murdock. We're excited about that.

Speaker 7 (01:42:02):
Yeah, so no, I'm you get a chance to see
some of these guys that are battling for spots and
and honestly, there's some intriguing battles they're gonna happen this
but yeah, ten to fifteen snaps for the starters.

Speaker 2 (01:42:12):
To a tongue of Aloa making his debut with the
Atlanta Falcons.

Speaker 1 (01:42:14):
There you go. All right, that's all happened in Friday night.
By the way, pregame starts tomorrow at one. We'll have
Nick Ferguson and then all Bright. Let's do of the day.
Since those two clowns are going to be in studio,
let's make both of them play tomorrow. Let's do that,
and so I'll be done at one and then I'm
gonna be off to Happy hour. JK.

Speaker 2 (01:42:33):
Keep it around here, KA sports coming up next,

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