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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Good morning, everybody. Welcome. I'm Ron Wilson, and you are
in the garden. You're on news radio six ' ten
WTVNA two to one WTVN eight hundred and six to
ten WTVN talking about yard name. Two weeks away from
the start of the meteorological fall season. Can't wait two
weeks away? Also, two weeks away from the start of
the Buck guy football season. Can't can't wait for that either.
(00:23):
Tell you somebody else who can't wait for that to happen?
For both of them, especially the Buck guys. That would
be Buggy Joe Boggs. It's time for the Buggy Joe Boggs.
You poor Joe Bogs, Assistant Professor, Ohio Sate University Extension,
Hamilton County Associated Faculty. Oh it's you, Department of Entomology
website byg L DOTSU dot Edu. Ladies and gentlemen, Mister
common sense, he called himself Buggy Joe Boggs.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Good morning, sir, Good morning. Bye gosh. It is amazing
how soon the Buck guys will be taken to the field.
Two weeks baby, two weeks I just I just well
begs the question what happened to the summer.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Some of the days that were extremely hot. I'm glad
they're gone.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Yeah, yeah, that hot and dry hot. Yeah, we were
getting dry again. I mean, you know, yes, you know yesterday,
you know we had some rain. We had some rain
in the I mean we we picked up a little
bit of rain, but it was very spotty, right, I mean,
it wasn't all over the place. The Hopefully this weekend
(01:29):
will be you know what, it'll be better. But we'll
just have to see. But I'll tell you, you know,
I'm going to jump into just a whole different area.
You know, some reports something just entirely different, and I
don't believe that it's associated with rainfall or drought or
anything like that. Reports of tomatoes with the seeds developing
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inside the tomato by by oh man, I tell you
that's the end of that. I mean, that's it. That's
where we're going to stop. Y vippery. It's a very unusual.
Have you been getting some pictures and tomatoes?
Speaker 3 (02:09):
You know what?
Speaker 1 (02:10):
I usually get a more when folks are buying from
the grocery store and they've been sitting on the shelf
for a while. Yeah, then they they'll slice into them
and I'll see it every now and in, but now
I have a guy any lately.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
It's it's become kind of interesting because I think two
things are at play, you know, I think one thing
that uh so maybe we should just let's describe it
very quickly. So you cut open a tomato and in
one of the chambers with the seed, you know, you
see this really funky looking black area. Almost it looks
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like a disease. And at first until you look closely
and you see that, well, my goodness, it looks like
the seeds are are sprouting. But occasionally you'll the entire
inside of the tomato will look this way. And of course,
you know, if only one of the I'm calling them chambers,
you know, it's it's just you know, how those seeds
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are are, you know, in in individual chambers. If it's
only one, you can cut it out. It doesn't it
doesn't hurt the eating of the tomato. But it's certainly
something that that looks bad. And the pictures I've been
I've gotten here recently, it's been blamed on the disease
because you know, there is a little bit of a
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disease look to it. But as far as what exactly happening.
That's that's something that there's only some guests work. What
we do know is that it tends to be associated
with tomatoes, like you say, that are over ripened. And
what happens is that as tomatoes ripen, eventually it gets
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to the place where the hormone that's that's uh that
keeps the seed from germinating starts starts to climbing and
the concentration starts going down, and so then that allows
the seed to start germinating. Of course, you know, that's
a natural process. You know, tomato seeds don't require stratification.
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You know, like we see with a lot of other
seeds that they they will sprout if, you know, if
allowed to. But that whole idea of over ripening, there's
something that I saw and you and I've talked about
this before, you know, people becoming aware of determinate versus
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indeterminate tomatoes. Now for avid gardeners that this should not
be anything new. But where I get concerned a little bit.
Run are gardeners that are new to the you know,
new to growing tomatoes. They may have their first patio tomato,
or there's a little garden with a few plants and
maybe they just don't have much experience. And when you
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go in to buy your plants, if you look closely
to tag, I very seldom don't see this on a tag.
Occasionally you don't. But but it might say that it's determinate,
or it might say it's indeterminate. And what that means,
of course, as you and I both know, is that
determinate the tomatoes tend to ripen all at once. So
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you're watching them and you're getting all prepared for that single, new,
single hamburger with a new tomato from your garden, and
all of a sudden you've got to sit and start
inviting friends and family over, right, because you have so
many tomatoes. That's determinate, Whereas indeterminate is where the tomatoes
ripen over develop and ripen over an extended period of time.
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I'm a bit concern this spring because you know, personally,
unless you have a large family or you're planning on
doing a lot of canning, for example, roma tomatoes tend
to be determinate. And of course what do we do
with those, Well, they are perfect for tomato sauce to can, right,
we want to have them all all at one time.
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So if you're experiencing this. The first thing that I
would do is is right down the variety, make sure
you know what the variety is, and then do a
little bit of looking to see, okay, did you inadvertently
by determine the tomato? And now you have all these
tomatoes that you just can't keep ahead of, and you know,
you think sitting them on the counter like I do.
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You know, you have maybe three or four and and
you pick one maybe that's a little bit on the
green side, and they go, that's going to ripen up,
and I'll have this nice fresh tomato. And that's all
well and good, but it's kind of hard sometimes, particularly
if you have you know, more plants, you know, then
you can really use the tomatoes, which none of us
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are guilty of that, right, never, never, Yeah, just don't
talk to my wife.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Right my dad? Everybody say, I'm going to cut back.
I'm not going to plan made tomatoes this year. I'm
only going to play at eighteen and then you use
all done. I did you buy it and plant that
thirty two?
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Yeah? Yeah, well I blame it. I blame it on
the cell packs. I mean, you buy you only need
maybe two tomato plants or maybe even one, and you
buy a cell pack of six and you feel like,
I'm not a nerbocidlemania. I I can't drom away. You
got to give them a chance. But but this is
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again by vippery or you know, tomato seeds sprouting inside
the fruits. It's this time of year when we really
start picking it up. There's again really not much you
can do about it other than, as I said, just
you know, use the tomatoes before they overripen. But then
if it's something that that is so bad. Several years
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ago you and I talked about this because I had
bought a determinate tomato with I actually had the goal
of doing some canning and just didn't get to it.
And man, about half the tomatoes sprouted thieves. It was
amazing because again it was my fault. You know, I
bought the determiner. I knew that they were I just
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could not get to them in time. But it can
be disappointing. You know, you spend all this time and
you know you're just looking forward. As I said, to
that BLT, right, yes, you can't have a better BLT
than made with a fresh garden tomato. And so you
get all prepared. You cut it open, and you know
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there's a collective yuck, you know, from everybody around you
and yourself included. So it's something to be aware of.
It can be prevented. And just write this down, you
know the variety that you have, and do a little
homework for next year. And I have a feeling that.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
And what you say, Joe, is when you slice that
open and everybody's waiting and you see the green inside there,
you say, look at that. I've got both the tomato
and sprouts to put on you on your hamburger. You're
going to absolutely love it. No, let us need it.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Yeah, No, well, you know it is a good point.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
I mean, it's not tomatoes and you got your tomato
slice and some sprouts. It is a little bit of greens.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
What the heck sprout? Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
You know what's funny is I've seen, uh, I've seen
people cut the tops off of them like that where
they started to sprout and just let it grow in
the tomato. It's like a chia pet and you get
all these little tomatoes growing out the top.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
I've seen that too. I didn't do that. I wish
I had, because you're right, it's just let it grow.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Oh yeah, it gets a lot of attention. All right,
just take a break. We come back at part two
of Buggy Joe Boggs here on news radio six to
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Boggs O Issue Extension b y G L dot O
su dot EEDU. You and Santana. We're pretty close, weren't you.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
You know, every time I hear that song, I I
can't keep from forgetting. I mean, what comes to mind
is my poor dad sitting in the back seat of
our fairly new I think it was a seventy two
Plymouth Fury, Remember the Plymouth Fury.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Oh yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
And we and we had an eight track tape deck.
You know that was I mean, that was really something, right,
you know, yeah, eight track tate deck, and and I
was blasting Santana. Yeah with we we had some really
good speakers in the back. And like I said, uh yeah,
let's just say, my dad had the patience of a
(10:45):
saint in my opinion, to put up with some of
those things. But every time I hear that song, I
think of looking in there. I was driving, I looked
in the rearview mirror, and I could just see, you know,
just kind of a determined you know, I just I'll
just put up with this, you know, I've just put
up with this. I will survive.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
I love it. I like Santana, I still do. I
wanted to go see him last year. Was in the
dayton I think, and she's a one hundred and thirty
five dollars a ticket and I said, nah, I got
out the CD inmplate it.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
No, that's right, that's right, yeah, break out the old
eight track tapes right. Oh yeah, So what are some
of the you know, I don't do this enough. We
don't do I just launched for the things. What are
some of the things that are coming across your desk that.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
You're by the way talking indeterminate and determinate when I
do my mom, she loves cherry tomatoes, and I do
about five twenty five gallon buckets of usually three or
four different types of cherries, and she just loaded with
them right now. But I start out the season with
two determinate cherry tomato plants, tumbling toms, which only get
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about twenty four inches high and wide. They're greating containers
and they produce a bazillion cherry tomatoes early, and as
soon as they're done, all of a sudden, they just
and then there's no more. I mean, I've just done.
And sometimes that confuses folks because they sometimes it's like,
what happened to my tomato plan?
Speaker 2 (12:07):
You know?
Speaker 1 (12:07):
I was having on the tomatoes. Yeah, and all of
a sudden it just stopped. Well, it's a determinate, so
they were done and then right when they're done, the
indeterminates kick in and then it carries on. But we
do that every year, so she's got early tomatoes and uh,
it works anyway. Things that are going on you Last
week I wrote myself a note. You had talked about
(12:28):
Nostock communes, right, yes, and you we went to the break.
You were going to talk about some research done at
Oregon State University the other OSU about controls and what
they had found that was somewhat effective on keeping these
in control. And when we came back, I think I
(12:49):
may have interrupted you because we did not put the
answer out there. I know what it is, but you
but you didn't. But you didn't follow up with it
with the final answer is if you want to be a.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Millionaire, you know, Yeah, and and uh, you know, I'm
just going to kind of talk slow and then we'll
end this segment. Just well, he still didn't say, you know,
it's uh, it's it's first of all, I mean, let's
first start with Okay, what does this thing need. It's
an ancient organism. It must it must get hydrated every
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now and then, so there has to be water available.
In some situations, it just can't be easily prevented, you know,
as we said, it's a it's a it's a major hazard,
you know, and can container eye production, right, I mean
you have down the weed mats and you know you
just just almost can't help. You have to water the plants.
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But in a landscaping though, you know, that's not always
the case, and very often it signifies that there's some
type of spring seep which is there again you just
kind of can't do a lot about. Or there's poor drainage,
which maybe you can do something about. So that's the
first place to start. You know, driveways, as you mentioned,
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gravel driveways is pretty common. You know, again where there's
some water seeping up and you know, maybe you know,
addressing some drainageissues in the driveway which could be helpful
in the winter, right, so you don't have ice patches.
But what here's what not to do. It is not
a plant, and that's that's where people kind of fail
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a bit. You know, they think, well, you know, I'm
going to use I'm going to use an herbicide. Well,
you know, that's just not going to work. What it
will do though, let's say you use glycysate or something
is it will kill other plants that didn't release its phosphorus.
And something that was discovered many years ago nos dot
commune can produce its own food. As we said, it
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is a cyanobacterium that is capable of photosynthesis, so it
can produce its own food. But also it can acquire
nitrogen from the app hetmosphere and convert nitrogen into a
usable form for itself, which is a little bit like
what we see with beans, you know, for legains. You
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know that of course they need the help of a bacterium.
They need the help of a bacterium for that. Just
stop and think about it. Snobacteria are bacteria. So these
things have been doing this for a while. So if
you so, they can produce their own nitrogen. But what
they also then need are other nutrients, and phosphorus is
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a big one. So that's something to think about, is okay,
we can't use that. Well, the research done at Oregon
State University, you know, as you said the other OSU,
is that they they found that that oricytl product called
scythe scy THHG sythe is highly effective and not only
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killing novs dot commune, but it actually would prevent the
growth for a number of weeks. Now in nursery situations,
it would come back eventually, but if you had you know,
if you use this product, which scythe is a a
pelargonic acid, which is a little bit it's sort of
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like you know, an insecticidal or a herbicidal soap. I
don't go too far with that, but it's it's kind
of in that same chemical region, if you will. But
herbicidal soaps won't do well against nostac commune. Scythe is
a contact herbicide. It's a burned down so you it's
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actually a very effective herbicide if you want to, you know,
very rapidly burned down a plant, which could be very helpful.
For example, if you have winter annuals, you know which
which will be germinating pretty soon, or if you have
summer annuals in the spring, you just want to burn
them down. You don't want to do other things. But
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it is the product that's available. It will require repeat applications.
They're going to do it all at once, but it
can get a person through, you know, having the problem.
Now in the situation where I called it nostock slipping
slide because I was on the ground twice. And you know,
after I posted that, I got two email messages from
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some horticulture professionals ron they had the same experience. One
of them stepped, Yeah, one of them stepped off a
piece of equipment on the turf grass and he said
it was just like this ice skating, you know, he
just slipped in, you know. And so what was happening
was the same thing that happened with me, and that
was an area of the turf grass that was weakened
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because of poor drainage and allowed the nostock commune to
come in. So that's the other approach is to thicken
up the turf grass so you don't have you have
turf grass and you don't have this. In other words,
this isn't killing the turf grass. It's just growing where
the turf grass can't thrive. So you wouldn't want to
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use fife though on an area of turf because you're
going to kill the turf crafts too and make the
problem even worse. But there it is. That that's fice. Yeah,
pretty interesting product, s.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
C ytche, So keep that in mind. But yeah, for
some reason, I wrote myself a note and said, we
forgot to give the answer to it.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Now that you say that, yeah, you're right, I think
we build it up. And I'll said, well, it's nice
talking to you.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
And by the way, Joe, I would bet there's probably
at least fifty to one hundred people after they read
that Beagle posting that said the same thing. I would
have loved to have been there.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Yeah, yeah, I know, I'm a video evidence. I mean,
I'm sorry. It would have been just to.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
See it, just to see it.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Well, and I'll tell you this, well, the other thing
that they would have seen is how you know, I
will do all I can to protect my camera, so
you know, not only was I just on the ground
somehow the other I claimed catlike reflexes of I'm hearing
gigle right. Yeah, but somehow the other I did manage
to keep from falling onto my camera. But I will
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readily admit the very first thing I did, before I
even assessed if I was hurt, thank goodness of soft ground,
was near a busy highway, so yes, I look to
see if anybody saw me.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Anybody see that.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
And then the second time I went down, you know,
it was even worse. I kind of felt like just
kind of sliding along behind one of the shrubs or
something and just just just giving up a while. It
was like ice. It really was surprising.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
And if you'd like to see that posting and go
to our website, Ron Wilson online dot com or byg
L dot O su dot e du Buggy Joe Boggs.
Always a pleasure, great information. We will talk to you
all fired up in two weeks, but next week, next
week first, and then the following week all fired up.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
There you go, all fired up. You have a great week.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Run take care of you too, Buggy Joe Boggs. Oshue
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Let's go ahead, Louis, Good morning, Louise.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
I called you before on this situation. I have a
lot of ivy, and I have a lot of day
lilies growing inside the ivy h and I am theorizing
that if I whack off the growth as it comes in,
which I did this year, that they will not get
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the energy back into the bulbs and there won't be
so much growing next year.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Of the of the day lily. Yes, yeah, I mean
that's You're exactly right. The I mean, the foliage obviously
is replenishing the roots down below, and so leaving it
on there as long as you can, obviously is a
great thing. Now, I look at day lilies right now,
a lot of them look pretty bad, you know, they're
starting to look yellow and brown and looking kind of
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nasty and that a lot of times going into August
they just kind of look weird. It's okay to do
to take day lilies and take the foliage off, you know,
sometime in August, and what they'll do is they'll flush
up a short set of leaves probably about six to
eight inches, and look really nice the rest of the
season and it doesn't hurt it at all and it
continues to feed the plant as well. So you can
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do that, you know, do a little uh getting rid
of all that old nasty foliage and forcing up a
little bit early, you know, like I say, August, early,
late summer, early fall, and it'll just stay like that
the rest of the season and it'll die back over
the winter come right back up for you in the spring.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
Well I'm hoping that, like tulip, if you cut off
the leaves real early every year, eventually there won't be
any more tulip come up.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Yeah, And so you're trying to get rid of the
day lilies, right, yes, yeah, so yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:41):
So I'm optimistic that next year because I cut them
off right away and perfect. And I kept doing it
every week, and just.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Remember this, Louis. They are day lilies, and as you
and I talked before, they are day lilies, and they
are tough and you know that, and that that's why
you know, they used to be called ditch lilies because
you would see him growing in ditches and places where
you know, they would just kind of naturalize that whole area.
They're tough and they're durable. But the whole point of
what you're doing, and that's the right thing to do,
is you're just starving out those roots and starving out
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those roots, and every time you see a little foliage,
you get rid of it, and then that starves it out,
you know. So yeah, so you're doing just the opposite
of trying to keep them good. And that's that's perfect.
That's that's about all you can do.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
That's what I'm doing. And I'm hoping next year that
there won't be anything growing because I haven't left enough.
I haven't left up on there for two days to
get the energy to them come back next year.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Perfect, that's perfect. But I bet you, I'll bet you, Louis,
somewhere in there you're going to get a little piece
that still going to sprout up just to make you mad.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
Next year, I probably are going to make two or
three years. And I'm too old to do it too
many years.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
I bet a couple of years. I'll bet you get
them under control. All right, louis good talking with you.
I had I used to have a yucca plant and
we took out and I've told your story before. It
took me five years. Things sprouted up and I cut
it all off, doing the same thing, just starving it out,
and it took me five years before the last one
finally popped up. Quick break, we come back page. You're
coming up next. Phone lines are open for you eight
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two to one w TV IN, eight hundred and six
to ten WTV in here on news radio six ten WTVN.
All right, we're talking yarding here on news radio six
to ten WTV and that's something good. I like talking
about yarding. By the way, a couple things real quick,
and we'll go back to the guardening phone lines at
eight hundred six to ten WTVN. Had someone send me
a question about they discovered that they sent me pictures
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actually of their knockout roses and several of them in
a mass planting one know what's going on with them?
They just don't look right, they said, And I'm not
flowering as well. And it's rose rosette unfortunately, and rose
rosette if you look at it, it just it just makes
the rose looks totally different than any it's It has
a really dark red maroon foliage, kind of distorted. The
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stems are very thorny, the flowers are a little bit smaller,
et cetera, et cetera. Well, once you get that, it's
a it's a virus. You can't get out of it.
You can't control it. So you pull those roses out
and you throw them away. Now that's vectored by it
and a small insect. It's a mite that blows on
to the roses and they've you know, if they've been
feeding on an infected rose somewhere else and they just
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transmit it to this particular rose. And that's how the
rose rosette spreads from roses to roses. And once you
get it, like I said, you can't get rid of it.
So you know, once you detected, you know it's there,
get rid of the rose. This person wanted to hang
onto the rose. Spray it with a mitas side so
I can get a few more flowers out of it
for the rest of the season. You know, don't do
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that first of fall. It's not recommended. As far as
the mitas side, it's not one hundred percent effective. You
don't know if there's mites there or not unless you
did a double check the whole nine yards. You're better
off just pulling that out. And again it's a rose
with rose rosettes. Pulling it out, throwing it away, get
rid of it all right. If you got if you
can burn it, great, but if you can't, bottle it
up and get rid of it, give it to send
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it to the to the last one thing we want
to send to the landfill. Get it out of your
yard and you get rid of it, and then give
you gives you time to kind of redo the area,
and you can if you get take as many roots
out as you can, you can come back and replant
a rose there should you want to in the future.
But again, don't leave that in there. As soon as
you detect rose rosette get rid of it. Also had
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an email this week finally seeing a little bit more
of the fall webworm, where one or two branches of
a tree, just one or two branches totally engulfed with
a you know, the webbing with the small caterpillars on
the inside feeding on those leaves. Remember they feed on
the inside of that webbing. They only leave the leaves
that are inside there. So don't worry about spraying form
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and whatever. Just take a broomstick or something and tear
open the netting, get your garden hose out with a
strong stream of water, and just have fun blowing them
off of the plant. Blow them all off the plant.
They hit the ground. They're like guys. They won't ask
for directions, rarely find their way back to the tree,
subject to pretters like birds. Then you're stepping on them
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or whatever, and it's a done deal. You don't have
to prove that branch out. Some people will do that,
cut it out and throw it away. Well, that's a
good way to get rid of them, but no sense
doing that. The branch will releaf next year. So all
you have to do is just open that netting up
and blow all that stuff out of there with a
strong stream of water, and you're pretty much good to
go to get that out, and your tree should recover
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nicely come next spring, so keep that in mind. Page.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
Good morning, Good morning, ron Oh, sir, listening to you
on Saturday mornings.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
Thank you, sir.
Speaker 5 (27:41):
I've heard, yeah, I heard you earlier talking with the
Joe Bogs about the dilemma US gardeners have with bukou
tomatoes at any particular time and so years ago.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
My wife and I do can and things like that,
but we a lot of times we don't have time
and the garden season to deal with it, you know.
So an old lady next door taught us to wash,
core and freeze the tomatoes and gallon zip locks with
the skins on until such time as you have time
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to deal with them, which for us is usually dead
of winter January February. So we just wash corn freeze
them with skins on. Once you thaw them, the skins
come off real easy, and it makes for a little
less pressure during the gardening season when you don't have
to can't, you know, during when you're trying to keep
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everything going.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
You know, sure, absolutely, that's a great tip. And the
think of it is, obviously you're not going to use
those for slicing, but you can use us for canning,
making sauces, cooking with them or whatever it may do.
But you know it does delay that a little bit point,
and that's a great points and it's very easily done.
If you've got the space and the freezer there you go.
Great way to hang on to them, no doubt.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
I got a question, Ron, if I may sure? Is
it just me? I'm a pretty avid gardener of the
garden size of the house.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
But is it just me?
Speaker 3 (29:05):
Or are certain years, for example tomato years and other
years or bean years or whatever seems like this year, uh,
you know, a zucchini squash and cucumbers too hot, too dry,
I'm guessing because you didn't have great production on those,
but yet green beans tremendous production, like better than ever before.
Speaker 5 (29:28):
Of course, water water water, But yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
That is that just me? Or is that the way
it is?
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Certain? I think that's the way. Yeah, I think that's
the way it is, Paige. I mean, you know, some
years tomatoes, especially one year, you'll have a great crop
of tomatoes. Next year, all of a sudden you just
get hit with leaf blight or uh, sumptory leaf spot
or whatever, and or the temperatures are too hot, they
don't pollinate well. And you just don't get any The
following year you are loaded, same tomatoes, same everything. But
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you you will see that one year great on the beans,
one year horrible. Kucs and Zeus in the zukie. As
from what I've gotten from most folks, feedback has been okay,
nothing exceptional, but okay. So yeah, you're right, it'll it'll
vary from year to year. Page we gotta go. I
appreciate the call. It's always a pleasure hearing from you.
Gotta go. Coming up to the top of the hour,
(30:15):
Barbie Bletcher will join us as we after we get
back from the break. Two things. We're gonna talk a
little bit about the bees, but we're also gonna talk
about a couple books that I found that are great
reference books. Barbie had a part, a little something to
do with one of them. But we'll tell you where
you can find these great reference books written by Dan Childs.
That'll be after the break here on news Radio six
(30:36):
' ten w TV in
Good morning, everybody. Welcome. I'm Ron Wilson, and you are
in the garden. You're on news radio six ' ten
WTVNA two to one WTVN eight hundred and six to
ten WTVN talking about yard name. Two weeks away from
the start of the meteorological fall season. Can't wait two
weeks away? Also, two weeks away from the start of
the Buck guy football season. Can't can't wait for that either.
(00:23):
Tell you somebody else who can't wait for that to happen?
For both of them, especially the Buck guys. That would
be Buggy Joe Boggs. It's time for the Buggy Joe Boggs.
You poor Joe Bogs, Assistant Professor, Ohio Sate University Extension,
Hamilton County Associated Faculty. Oh it's you, Department of Entomology
website byg L DOTSU dot Edu. Ladies and gentlemen, Mister
common sense, he called himself Buggy Joe Boggs.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Good morning, sir, Good morning. Bye gosh. It is amazing
how soon the Buck guys will be taken to the field.
Two weeks baby, two weeks I just I just well
begs the question what happened to the summer.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Some of the days that were extremely hot. I'm glad
they're gone.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Yeah, yeah, that hot and dry hot. Yeah, we were
getting dry again. I mean, you know, yes, you know yesterday,
you know we had some rain. We had some rain
in the I mean we we picked up a little
bit of rain, but it was very spotty, right, I mean,
it wasn't all over the place. The Hopefully this weekend
(01:29):
will be you know what, it'll be better. But we'll
just have to see. But I'll tell you, you know,
I'm going to jump into just a whole different area.
You know, some reports something just entirely different, and I
don't believe that it's associated with rainfall or drought or
anything like that. Reports of tomatoes with the seeds developing
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inside the tomato by by oh man, I tell you
that's the end of that. I mean, that's it. That's
where we're going to stop. Y vippery. It's a very unusual.
Have you been getting some pictures and tomatoes?
Speaker 3 (02:09):
You know what?
Speaker 1 (02:10):
I usually get a more when folks are buying from
the grocery store and they've been sitting on the shelf
for a while. Yeah, then they they'll slice into them
and I'll see it every now and in, but now
I have a guy any lately.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
It's it's become kind of interesting because I think two
things are at play, you know, I think one thing
that uh so maybe we should just let's describe it
very quickly. So you cut open a tomato and in
one of the chambers with the seed, you know, you
see this really funky looking black area. Almost it looks
(02:43):
like a disease. And at first until you look closely
and you see that, well, my goodness, it looks like
the seeds are are sprouting. But occasionally you'll the entire
inside of the tomato will look this way. And of course,
you know, if only one of the I'm calling them chambers,
you know, it's it's just you know, how those seeds
(03:05):
are are, you know, in in individual chambers. If it's
only one, you can cut it out. It doesn't it
doesn't hurt the eating of the tomato. But it's certainly
something that that looks bad. And the pictures I've been
I've gotten here recently, it's been blamed on the disease
because you know, there is a little bit of a
(03:25):
disease look to it. But as far as what exactly happening.
That's that's something that there's only some guests work. What
we do know is that it tends to be associated
with tomatoes, like you say, that are over ripened. And
what happens is that as tomatoes ripen, eventually it gets
(03:46):
to the place where the hormone that's that's uh that
keeps the seed from germinating starts starts to climbing and
the concentration starts going down, and so then that allows
the seed to start germinating. Of course, you know, that's
a natural process. You know, tomato seeds don't require stratification.
(04:07):
You know, like we see with a lot of other
seeds that they they will sprout if, you know, if
allowed to. But that whole idea of over ripening, there's
something that I saw and you and I've talked about
this before, you know, people becoming aware of determinate versus
(04:28):
indeterminate tomatoes. Now for avid gardeners that this should not
be anything new. But where I get concerned a little bit.
Run are gardeners that are new to the you know,
new to growing tomatoes. They may have their first patio tomato,
or there's a little garden with a few plants and
maybe they just don't have much experience. And when you
(04:51):
go in to buy your plants, if you look closely
to tag, I very seldom don't see this on a tag.
Occasionally you don't. But but it might say that it's determinate,
or it might say it's indeterminate. And what that means,
of course, as you and I both know, is that
determinate the tomatoes tend to ripen all at once. So
(05:13):
you're watching them and you're getting all prepared for that single, new,
single hamburger with a new tomato from your garden, and
all of a sudden you've got to sit and start
inviting friends and family over, right, because you have so
many tomatoes. That's determinate, Whereas indeterminate is where the tomatoes
ripen over develop and ripen over an extended period of time.
(05:38):
I'm a bit concern this spring because you know, personally,
unless you have a large family or you're planning on
doing a lot of canning, for example, roma tomatoes tend
to be determinate. And of course what do we do
with those, Well, they are perfect for tomato sauce to can, right,
we want to have them all all at one time.
(06:01):
So if you're experiencing this. The first thing that I
would do is is right down the variety, make sure
you know what the variety is, and then do a
little bit of looking to see, okay, did you inadvertently
by determine the tomato? And now you have all these
tomatoes that you just can't keep ahead of, and you know,
you think sitting them on the counter like I do.
(06:24):
You know, you have maybe three or four and and
you pick one maybe that's a little bit on the
green side, and they go, that's going to ripen up,
and I'll have this nice fresh tomato. And that's all
well and good, but it's kind of hard sometimes, particularly
if you have you know, more plants, you know, then
you can really use the tomatoes, which none of us
(06:45):
are guilty of that, right, never, never, Yeah, just don't
talk to my wife.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Right my dad? Everybody say, I'm going to cut back.
I'm not going to plan made tomatoes this year. I'm
only going to play at eighteen and then you use
all done. I did you buy it and plant that
thirty two?
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Yeah? Yeah, well I blame it. I blame it on
the cell packs. I mean, you buy you only need
maybe two tomato plants or maybe even one, and you
buy a cell pack of six and you feel like,
I'm not a nerbocidlemania. I I can't drom away. You
got to give them a chance. But but this is
(07:25):
again by vippery or you know, tomato seeds sprouting inside
the fruits. It's this time of year when we really
start picking it up. There's again really not much you
can do about it other than, as I said, just
you know, use the tomatoes before they overripen. But then
if it's something that that is so bad. Several years
(07:46):
ago you and I talked about this because I had
bought a determinate tomato with I actually had the goal
of doing some canning and just didn't get to it.
And man, about half the tomatoes sprouted thieves. It was
amazing because again it was my fault. You know, I
bought the determiner. I knew that they were I just
(08:09):
could not get to them in time. But it can
be disappointing. You know, you spend all this time and
you know you're just looking forward. As I said, to
that BLT, right, yes, you can't have a better BLT
than made with a fresh garden tomato. And so you
get all prepared. You cut it open, and you know
(08:29):
there's a collective yuck, you know, from everybody around you
and yourself included. So it's something to be aware of.
It can be prevented. And just write this down, you
know the variety that you have, and do a little
homework for next year. And I have a feeling that.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
And what you say, Joe, is when you slice that
open and everybody's waiting and you see the green inside there,
you say, look at that. I've got both the tomato
and sprouts to put on you on your hamburger. You're
going to absolutely love it. No, let us need it.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Yeah, No, well, you know it is a good point.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
I mean, it's not tomatoes and you got your tomato
slice and some sprouts. It is a little bit of greens.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
What the heck sprout? Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
You know what's funny is I've seen, uh, I've seen
people cut the tops off of them like that where
they started to sprout and just let it grow in
the tomato. It's like a chia pet and you get
all these little tomatoes growing out the top.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
I've seen that too. I didn't do that. I wish
I had, because you're right, it's just let it grow.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Oh yeah, it gets a lot of attention. All right,
just take a break. We come back at part two
of Buggy Joe Boggs here on news radio six to
ten w TVN Oh yeah, como va mister Buggy Joe
Boggs O Issue Extension b y G L dot O
su dot EEDU. You and Santana. We're pretty close, weren't you.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
You know, every time I hear that song, I I
can't keep from forgetting. I mean, what comes to mind
is my poor dad sitting in the back seat of
our fairly new I think it was a seventy two
Plymouth Fury, Remember the Plymouth Fury.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Oh yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
And we and we had an eight track tape deck.
You know that was I mean, that was really something, right,
you know, yeah, eight track tate deck, and and I
was blasting Santana. Yeah with we we had some really
good speakers in the back. And like I said, uh yeah,
let's just say, my dad had the patience of a
(10:45):
saint in my opinion, to put up with some of
those things. But every time I hear that song, I
think of looking in there. I was driving, I looked
in the rearview mirror, and I could just see, you know,
just kind of a determined you know, I just I'll
just put up with this, you know, I've just put
up with this. I will survive.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
I love it. I like Santana, I still do. I
wanted to go see him last year. Was in the
dayton I think, and she's a one hundred and thirty
five dollars a ticket and I said, nah, I got
out the CD inmplate it.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
No, that's right, that's right, yeah, break out the old
eight track tapes right. Oh yeah, So what are some
of the you know, I don't do this enough. We
don't do I just launched for the things. What are
some of the things that are coming across your desk that.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
You're by the way talking indeterminate and determinate when I
do my mom, she loves cherry tomatoes, and I do
about five twenty five gallon buckets of usually three or
four different types of cherries, and she just loaded with
them right now. But I start out the season with
two determinate cherry tomato plants, tumbling toms, which only get
(11:50):
about twenty four inches high and wide. They're greating containers
and they produce a bazillion cherry tomatoes early, and as
soon as they're done, all of a sudden, they just
and then there's no more. I mean, I've just done.
And sometimes that confuses folks because they sometimes it's like,
what happened to my tomato plan?
Speaker 2 (12:07):
You know?
Speaker 1 (12:07):
I was having on the tomatoes. Yeah, and all of
a sudden it just stopped. Well, it's a determinate, so
they were done and then right when they're done, the
indeterminates kick in and then it carries on. But we
do that every year, so she's got early tomatoes and uh,
it works anyway. Things that are going on you Last
week I wrote myself a note. You had talked about
(12:28):
Nostock communes, right, yes, and you we went to the break.
You were going to talk about some research done at
Oregon State University the other OSU about controls and what
they had found that was somewhat effective on keeping these
in control. And when we came back, I think I
(12:49):
may have interrupted you because we did not put the
answer out there. I know what it is, but you
but you didn't. But you didn't follow up with it
with the final answer is if you want to be a.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Millionaire, you know, Yeah, and and uh, you know, I'm
just going to kind of talk slow and then we'll
end this segment. Just well, he still didn't say, you know,
it's uh, it's it's first of all, I mean, let's
first start with Okay, what does this thing need. It's
an ancient organism. It must it must get hydrated every
(13:21):
now and then, so there has to be water available.
In some situations, it just can't be easily prevented, you know,
as we said, it's a it's a it's a major hazard,
you know, and can container eye production, right, I mean
you have down the weed mats and you know you
just just almost can't help. You have to water the plants.
(13:42):
But in a landscaping though, you know, that's not always
the case, and very often it signifies that there's some
type of spring seep which is there again you just
kind of can't do a lot about. Or there's poor drainage,
which maybe you can do something about. So that's the
first place to start. You know, driveways, as you mentioned,
(14:04):
gravel driveways is pretty common. You know, again where there's
some water seeping up and you know, maybe you know,
addressing some drainageissues in the driveway which could be helpful
in the winter, right, so you don't have ice patches.
But what here's what not to do. It is not
a plant, and that's that's where people kind of fail
(14:25):
a bit. You know, they think, well, you know, I'm
going to use I'm going to use an herbicide. Well,
you know, that's just not going to work. What it
will do though, let's say you use glycysate or something
is it will kill other plants that didn't release its phosphorus.
And something that was discovered many years ago nos dot
commune can produce its own food. As we said, it
(14:49):
is a cyanobacterium that is capable of photosynthesis, so it
can produce its own food. But also it can acquire
nitrogen from the app hetmosphere and convert nitrogen into a
usable form for itself, which is a little bit like
what we see with beans, you know, for legains. You
(15:10):
know that of course they need the help of a bacterium.
They need the help of a bacterium for that. Just
stop and think about it. Snobacteria are bacteria. So these
things have been doing this for a while. So if
you so, they can produce their own nitrogen. But what
they also then need are other nutrients, and phosphorus is
(15:31):
a big one. So that's something to think about, is okay,
we can't use that. Well, the research done at Oregon
State University, you know, as you said the other OSU,
is that they they found that that oricytl product called
scythe scy THHG sythe is highly effective and not only
(15:52):
killing novs dot commune, but it actually would prevent the
growth for a number of weeks. Now in nursery situations,
it would come back eventually, but if you had you know,
if you use this product, which scythe is a a
pelargonic acid, which is a little bit it's sort of
(16:15):
like you know, an insecticidal or a herbicidal soap. I
don't go too far with that, but it's it's kind
of in that same chemical region, if you will. But
herbicidal soaps won't do well against nostac commune. Scythe is
a contact herbicide. It's a burned down so you it's
(16:37):
actually a very effective herbicide if you want to, you know,
very rapidly burned down a plant, which could be very helpful.
For example, if you have winter annuals, you know which
which will be germinating pretty soon, or if you have
summer annuals in the spring, you just want to burn
them down. You don't want to do other things. But
(16:59):
it is the product that's available. It will require repeat applications.
They're going to do it all at once, but it
can get a person through, you know, having the problem.
Now in the situation where I called it nostock slipping
slide because I was on the ground twice. And you know,
after I posted that, I got two email messages from
(17:22):
some horticulture professionals ron they had the same experience. One
of them stepped, Yeah, one of them stepped off a
piece of equipment on the turf grass and he said
it was just like this ice skating, you know, he
just slipped in, you know. And so what was happening
was the same thing that happened with me, and that
was an area of the turf grass that was weakened
(17:43):
because of poor drainage and allowed the nostock commune to
come in. So that's the other approach is to thicken
up the turf grass so you don't have you have
turf grass and you don't have this. In other words,
this isn't killing the turf grass. It's just growing where
the turf grass can't thrive. So you wouldn't want to
(18:04):
use fife though on an area of turf because you're
going to kill the turf crafts too and make the
problem even worse. But there it is. That that's fice. Yeah,
pretty interesting product, s.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
C ytche, So keep that in mind. But yeah, for
some reason, I wrote myself a note and said, we
forgot to give the answer to it.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Now that you say that, yeah, you're right, I think
we build it up. And I'll said, well, it's nice
talking to you.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
And by the way, Joe, I would bet there's probably
at least fifty to one hundred people after they read
that Beagle posting that said the same thing. I would
have loved to have been there.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Yeah, yeah, I know, I'm a video evidence. I mean,
I'm sorry. It would have been just to.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
See it, just to see it.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Well, and I'll tell you this, well, the other thing
that they would have seen is how you know, I
will do all I can to protect my camera, so
you know, not only was I just on the ground
somehow the other I claimed catlike reflexes of I'm hearing
gigle right. Yeah, but somehow the other I did manage
to keep from falling onto my camera. But I will
(19:17):
readily admit the very first thing I did, before I
even assessed if I was hurt, thank goodness of soft ground,
was near a busy highway, so yes, I look to
see if anybody saw me.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Anybody see that.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
And then the second time I went down, you know,
it was even worse. I kind of felt like just
kind of sliding along behind one of the shrubs or
something and just just just giving up a while. It
was like ice. It really was surprising.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
And if you'd like to see that posting and go
to our website, Ron Wilson online dot com or byg
L dot O su dot e du Buggy Joe Boggs.
Always a pleasure, great information. We will talk to you
all fired up in two weeks, but next week, next
week first, and then the following week all fired up.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
There you go, all fired up. You have a great week.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Run take care of you too, Buggy Joe Boggs. Oshue
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(20:32):
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ed or our special website at Roun Wilson online dot com.
Let's go ahead, Louis, Good morning, Louise.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
I called you before on this situation. I have a
lot of ivy, and I have a lot of day
lilies growing inside the ivy h and I am theorizing
that if I whack off the growth as it comes in,
which I did this year, that they will not get
(21:20):
the energy back into the bulbs and there won't be
so much growing next year.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Of the of the day lily. Yes, yeah, I mean
that's You're exactly right. The I mean, the foliage obviously
is replenishing the roots down below, and so leaving it
on there as long as you can, obviously is a
great thing. Now, I look at day lilies right now,
a lot of them look pretty bad, you know, they're
starting to look yellow and brown and looking kind of
(21:47):
nasty and that a lot of times going into August
they just kind of look weird. It's okay to do
to take day lilies and take the foliage off, you know,
sometime in August, and what they'll do is they'll flush
up a short set of leaves probably about six to
eight inches, and look really nice the rest of the
season and it doesn't hurt it at all and it
continues to feed the plant as well. So you can
(22:10):
do that, you know, do a little uh getting rid
of all that old nasty foliage and forcing up a
little bit early, you know, like I say, August, early,
late summer, early fall, and it'll just stay like that
the rest of the season and it'll die back over
the winter come right back up for you in the spring.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
Well I'm hoping that, like tulip, if you cut off
the leaves real early every year, eventually there won't be
any more tulip come up.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Yeah, And so you're trying to get rid of the
day lilies, right, yes, yeah, so yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:41):
So I'm optimistic that next year because I cut them
off right away and perfect. And I kept doing it
every week, and just.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Remember this, Louis. They are day lilies, and as you
and I talked before, they are day lilies, and they
are tough and you know that, and that that's why
you know, they used to be called ditch lilies because
you would see him growing in ditches and places where
you know, they would just kind of naturalize that whole area.
They're tough and they're durable. But the whole point of
what you're doing, and that's the right thing to do,
is you're just starving out those roots and starving out
(23:15):
those roots, and every time you see a little foliage,
you get rid of it, and then that starves it out,
you know. So yeah, so you're doing just the opposite
of trying to keep them good. And that's that's perfect.
That's that's about all you can do.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
That's what I'm doing. And I'm hoping next year that
there won't be anything growing because I haven't left enough.
I haven't left up on there for two days to
get the energy to them come back next year.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Perfect, that's perfect. But I bet you, I'll bet you, Louis,
somewhere in there you're going to get a little piece
that still going to sprout up just to make you mad.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
Next year, I probably are going to make two or
three years. And I'm too old to do it too
many years.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
I bet a couple of years. I'll bet you get
them under control. All right, louis good talking with you.
I had I used to have a yucca plant and
we took out and I've told your story before. It
took me five years. Things sprouted up and I cut
it all off, doing the same thing, just starving it out,
and it took me five years before the last one
finally popped up. Quick break, we come back page. You're
coming up next. Phone lines are open for you eight
(24:15):
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All right, we're talking yarding here on news radio six
to ten WTV and that's something good. I like talking
about yarding. By the way, a couple things real quick,
and we'll go back to the guardening phone lines at
eight hundred six to ten WTVN. Had someone send me
a question about they discovered that they sent me pictures
(24:38):
actually of their knockout roses and several of them in
a mass planting one know what's going on with them?
They just don't look right, they said, And I'm not
flowering as well. And it's rose rosette unfortunately, and rose
rosette if you look at it, it just it just makes
the rose looks totally different than any it's It has
a really dark red maroon foliage, kind of distorted. The
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stems are very thorny, the flowers are a little bit smaller,
et cetera, et cetera. Well, once you get that, it's
a it's a virus. You can't get out of it.
You can't control it. So you pull those roses out
and you throw them away. Now that's vectored by it
and a small insect. It's a mite that blows on
to the roses and they've you know, if they've been
feeding on an infected rose somewhere else and they just
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transmit it to this particular rose. And that's how the
rose rosette spreads from roses to roses. And once you
get it, like I said, you can't get rid of it.
So you know, once you detected, you know it's there,
get rid of the rose. This person wanted to hang
onto the rose. Spray it with a mitas side so
I can get a few more flowers out of it
for the rest of the season. You know, don't do
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that first of fall. It's not recommended. As far as
the mitas side, it's not one hundred percent effective. You
don't know if there's mites there or not unless you
did a double check the whole nine yards. You're better
off just pulling that out. And again it's a rose
with rose rosettes. Pulling it out, throwing it away, get
rid of it all right. If you got if you
can burn it, great, but if you can't, bottle it
up and get rid of it, give it to send
(26:07):
it to the to the last one thing we want
to send to the landfill. Get it out of your
yard and you get rid of it, and then give
you gives you time to kind of redo the area,
and you can if you get take as many roots
out as you can, you can come back and replant
a rose there should you want to in the future.
But again, don't leave that in there. As soon as
you detect rose rosette get rid of it. Also had
(26:28):
an email this week finally seeing a little bit more
of the fall webworm, where one or two branches of
a tree, just one or two branches totally engulfed with
a you know, the webbing with the small caterpillars on
the inside feeding on those leaves. Remember they feed on
the inside of that webbing. They only leave the leaves
that are inside there. So don't worry about spraying form
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and whatever. Just take a broomstick or something and tear
open the netting, get your garden hose out with a
strong stream of water, and just have fun blowing them
off of the plant. Blow them all off the plant.
They hit the ground. They're like guys. They won't ask
for directions, rarely find their way back to the tree,
subject to pretters like birds. Then you're stepping on them
(27:11):
or whatever, and it's a done deal. You don't have
to prove that branch out. Some people will do that,
cut it out and throw it away. Well, that's a
good way to get rid of them, but no sense
doing that. The branch will releaf next year. So all
you have to do is just open that netting up
and blow all that stuff out of there with a
strong stream of water, and you're pretty much good to
go to get that out, and your tree should recover
(27:31):
nicely come next spring, so keep that in mind. Page.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
Good morning, Good morning, ron Oh, sir, listening to you
on Saturday mornings.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
Thank you, sir.
Speaker 5 (27:41):
I've heard, yeah, I heard you earlier talking with the
Joe Bogs about the dilemma US gardeners have with bukou
tomatoes at any particular time and so years ago.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
My wife and I do can and things like that,
but we a lot of times we don't have time
and the garden season to deal with it, you know.
So an old lady next door taught us to wash,
core and freeze the tomatoes and gallon zip locks with
the skins on until such time as you have time
(28:16):
to deal with them, which for us is usually dead
of winter January February. So we just wash corn freeze
them with skins on. Once you thaw them, the skins
come off real easy, and it makes for a little
less pressure during the gardening season when you don't have
to can't, you know, during when you're trying to keep
(28:37):
everything going.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
You know, sure, absolutely, that's a great tip. And the
think of it is, obviously you're not going to use
those for slicing, but you can use us for canning,
making sauces, cooking with them or whatever it may do.
But you know it does delay that a little bit point,
and that's a great points and it's very easily done.
If you've got the space and the freezer there you go.
Great way to hang on to them, no doubt.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
I got a question, Ron, if I may sure? Is
it just me? I'm a pretty avid gardener of the
garden size of the house.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
But is it just me?
Speaker 3 (29:05):
Or are certain years, for example tomato years and other
years or bean years or whatever seems like this year, uh,
you know, a zucchini squash and cucumbers too hot, too dry,
I'm guessing because you didn't have great production on those,
but yet green beans tremendous production, like better than ever before.
Speaker 5 (29:28):
Of course, water water water, But yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
That is that just me? Or is that the way
it is?
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Certain? I think that's the way. Yeah, I think that's
the way it is, Paige. I mean, you know, some
years tomatoes, especially one year, you'll have a great crop
of tomatoes. Next year, all of a sudden you just
get hit with leaf blight or uh, sumptory leaf spot
or whatever, and or the temperatures are too hot, they
don't pollinate well. And you just don't get any The
following year you are loaded, same tomatoes, same everything. But
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you you will see that one year great on the beans,
one year horrible. Kucs and Zeus in the zukie. As
from what I've gotten from most folks, feedback has been okay,
nothing exceptional, but okay. So yeah, you're right, it'll it'll
vary from year to year. Page we gotta go. I
appreciate the call. It's always a pleasure hearing from you.
Gotta go. Coming up to the top of the hour,
(30:15):
Barbie Bletcher will join us as we after we get
back from the break. Two things. We're gonna talk a
little bit about the bees, but we're also gonna talk
about a couple books that I found that are great
reference books. Barbie had a part, a little something to
do with one of them. But we'll tell you where
you can find these great reference books written by Dan Childs.
That'll be after the break here on news Radio six
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