May 31, 2025 • 10 mins
David Muñoz is back with Jordan Peterson of the Alamo City Golf Trail.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hi everyone, It's Andy Everett. Enjoy this podcast version of
The Golf Show from sports Radio AM seven sixty. The
ticket now from sports Radio AM seven sixty to the ticket.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
This is another edition of The Golf Show. The Golf
Show brought to you by MK Golf Tech, Joe Caruso's
Golf Academy and by Alamo City Golf Trail. Now on
the first t Andy Everett.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Well, good morning. This is dakered Munio's in for Andy Everett.
Andy is away in Scotland and enjoying his eleven rounds
in eleven days with him and his buddy's having such
a great time. I've seen a couple of his posts
on Facebook giving us a full description almost on a
daily basis. So he'll be back here next Saturday morning
at eight o'clock. Our number is two ten seven, three
(00:49):
six nine seven sixty in studio with me right now
as a President and CEO of the Alimal City Golf Trail,
Andrew Peterson, longtime sponsor Alimal City Golf Trail of this
fine golf show. Good to see you, sir.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
Thank you, David. Honored to be here and look forward
to visiting this morning.
Speaker 5 (01:04):
It's going to be great.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Now, first things for us, let's talk about some updates
here with the Alimal City Golf Trail. I want to
ask you about Willow Springs and the regrassing project going on.
Speaker 5 (01:13):
How's that going exceptionally well.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
We've got eight facilities on the Alimal City Golf Trail,
and it seems like for the last four or five
years we've constantly had one closed for renovation purposes. We
closed Willow Springs March and have had it close now
for the last ninety days or so. We've regrassed the
entire golf course aside from part of the rough, so
the fairways, approaches, greens, surrounds, tea boxes are all receiving
(01:36):
Platinum past Pallam. It's kind of the newest and latest
variety in grass. It grows really well in salty environments,
so typically seashore locations the Carolina's, Florida, Hawaii, Caribbean coasts
where saltwater is more prevalent. The reason that we went
with a sobiety grass at Willow Springs is because of
the affluent water. The recycled water there has a high
(01:58):
solemnity content them. So we beita tested it last year
on the putting green and shipping green and they both
turned out exceptionally well. So we moved it onto the
entire golf course and we're ahead of schedule and we
look to open at some point in July.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Now, what are the blessings? And I'm sure you know
over I'm going with this recently with the grassing going on,
with the regrassing, all this wonderful rain. Now that can
be good and bad, has it been more good than bad?
At Willow Springs.
Speaker 5 (02:26):
It's equally as good.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
It's certainly it's not going to hurt past pollen to
get rainfall water. And I think that's one of the
reasons it thrives as well in those salty environments is
they tend to get more rain than inland places.
Speaker 5 (02:39):
So from that standpoint, it's helped.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
But you talk about rainwater, we use a recycled water
at six of our eight golf courses. So even the
places that use Bermuda grasses, they get a salt build
up in them. So when Mother Nature benefits us like
it has this past week, it kind of leaches out
or washes out the salt content that's in the Bermuda grass.
So people going forward over the next couple of weeks,
(03:02):
you will see some really pristine course conditions because the
grass just starts glowing now that has got that natural
rainfall in it.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Andrew Peterson is our guest from the Olevele City Golf Trail. Andrew,
here's a question that maybe has never been asked for you.
I know that whenever there is the inclement weather and
there is no golf plate on certain days, that's kind
of like a hotel not being able to sell the
room because you cannot make it up. When you go
into your budgeting for the upcoming physical year, you know,
how many rain days do you guys allow in other words,
(03:31):
or is there something that's even discussed like that.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
I don't know the ins and outs of what you.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Guys do, but I thought about this last night and
I figured i'd ask you that question right now, because
you have to plan for some rain days as you
can't make up that revenue that's lost whenever there is
no golf.
Speaker 5 (03:43):
Yeah, savvy, questioned David.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
And certainly something that we have to pour a lot
of time into in preparation for. We've kept historic averages
of our weather related impacted days over the last fifteen years,
so what we do is we base our budgetary numbers
off historic averag so we've got a pretty good idea
and certainly, if you're going to have heavy rainfall years,
you're going to probably miss your target, and if you've
(04:06):
got dry years, you'll probably exceed your budget.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Do you know how many rain days you guys actually
plan when you're scheduling your budget?
Speaker 5 (04:12):
Thirty five?
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Thirty five days? Okay, has there been a year since
you've been with the Alamo City Golf Field? Has there
been a year where you did not reach thirty five days?
Speaker 4 (04:22):
Each of the last two years, we've only had twenty eight. Now,
the way we track weather impacted days is a little
bit different from just rainfall days, because there's going to
be rainfall days where you're going to get a quarter
of inch at night where it's not going to impact
golf at all, but if you get a gully washer
during the day, that impacts it heavily.
Speaker 5 (04:38):
But we don't necessarily count rain days.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
We count them more as weather impacted days, So that
could include frozen days in the winter time that would
count as a weather impacted day for us.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Okay, I saw this for the first time this past
winter I'd never seen it before, and I've been here
all my life, but I guess I just because I
hadn't driven by golf courses during the time when it's
been freezing or whatever. But they do cover the greens.
They cover the greens on all the courses and all
the greens. I've never seen that before myself. Yeah, super
(05:09):
question again, David.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
We've got what we call greens covers or simplistic name
would be tarps that we use at four of the
eight golf courses. And they're expensive, so we have only
about four sets so far, but we're going to expand
out and continue to buy them, so we have tarps
for each.
Speaker 5 (05:24):
Of the golf course. And in tarp is not a
fair word.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
A tarp is maybe what you'd use when you're camping
to put over your head as a rain shelter. This
is a synthetic type of material that's built to insulate
the greens. In fact, this past winter we put a
thermometer in the ground and when the tarp was covered
or when the green was covered with the tarp, it
(05:47):
read ten degrees warmer than what the actual air temperature was.
So they definitely work and they help with wind pressure,
a freezing rain, those types of things. So we bottom
at riverside almost space in Brackenridge Park and Cedar Creek,
and we got them there first because the greens are newer,
and a green when it's new is like an infant.
(06:08):
You're more susceptible to being ill. Your immune system's a
lot weaker. And same with a new putting green, whereas
an older putting surface, a mission to lago or northern hills,
that's like a middle aged person.
Speaker 5 (06:21):
So that's when your immune systems the strongest.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
But then of course, if you get a putting green
that's aged beyond its normal capacity or it's usable capacity,
it's like when we get elderly, your immune system goes
back down to infant status and you can get sick
a lot quicker.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
We're just joining us this morning. It is a ticket
seven sixty golf show. Andrew Peterson, the president and CEO
from the Lama City Golf Trails, are our guest. Andrew,
I've heard this many many years ago that whenever there's
frost on the ground in the wintertime, you do not
open the golf course until the frost is gone. And
I've heard that if you step on a piece of grass,
it hats, frosts, it kills that foot or whatever the
(06:57):
case might be.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
Is that actually, yeah, I don't know the technical term
for it. Our director of agronomy would probably be punching
me in the nose right now. It like crystallizes and
when you step on it, the grass actually breaks in
half and it shatters the root system underneath. So in
the week or two after that incident was to happen
(07:19):
and it occur, you would see literal of footmarks where
those footprints took place. So it kills that grass, and
it doesn't kill it forever. It'll take a while for
it to come back, but it certainly damages for an
extended period of time.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Very interesting, all right, alanmocitygolftrail dot com is the website.
Tell us about what's going on this summer, especially with
Father's Day coming up. You may want to think about
getting Dad something this year for Father's Day. It's only
two weeks from tomorrow. In case you did not know,
it's June fifteenth this year. Andrew, what do you recommend
as far as gift giving for Dad?
Speaker 4 (07:50):
Well, David, if I didn't know any better, I would
say that's a shameless plug calling out to your family
and your kids, but well done in disguise. Of course,
Father's Days it's the perfect time to shop for that
beloved golf father in your life. Gift cards, punch cards,
range certificates, whatever that looks like, merchandise, hats, gloves or else.
(08:11):
Just book a tea time on the trail and come
play with your dad. The golf courses are rounding into
fantastic shape. We got off to a little bit of
a slow start at a couple of courses of spring,
but everywhere is drastically improved and all the courses are
going to be great come Father's Day.
Speaker 5 (08:25):
How do those punch cards work?
Speaker 4 (08:28):
So we sail a five round punch card and it's
usable by anyone. You can pass it along to family
and friends. You can take out your buddies, or you
can use it yourself for five routes. But it's usable
on any Alimal City Golf Trail course, seven days a
week at any time.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Very good more information of course at Alamo City Golf
Trail dot com. I do want to bring this up
only because I did bring it up last week when
I was in your fieling in for Andy I wanted
to thank you guys, especially Ruben Caraveo, for doing that
special on me, because April twenty third was year since
my dad took me out to play golf for the
first time at Riverside, and Ruben met me there that
morning and he conducted the interview, took a couple of photos,
(09:08):
and I was just very touched by how it looked
on the website. I did not know that it was
going to go up the same day, but somebody tested
me and said, hey, Dave, have you seen this. It's
a great story, and I thought, wow, it's already up there.
I was touched by that piece, David. I thought that
was super cool.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
And I've got some fond memories of playing golf with
my dad, and it hasn't been sixty years, but when
it does get to be sixty years at a hold
a special spot in my mind too.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
Well. I drove by there yesterday because ironically, twenty five
years ago yesterday, my dad did die, so I went
by the golf course. I always go by the golf
course on the way to the cemetery at Mission Park South,
and it just is one of those things because, as
I mentioned in the interview, for some unknown reason other
than maybe divine intervention in the funeral procession, took us
right by riverside. It was like kind of God giving
(09:51):
him one last chance to look at the golf course.
That's I saw it.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
Well, you're welcome there anytime, and if you just want
to come and ponder your father and sit under a
pecan tree and welcome.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
So, thank you very very much. Okay, we're gonna be
having a special guest with us. I won't say his
name just yet. I might have linked it out of
the beginning, who knows, But we're gonna be having a
special guest during our next I've been coming up in
just about four or five minutes or so. Our number
if you have a question for Andrew Peterson two ten, seven, three,
six nine seven sixty
Hi everyone, It's Andy Everett. Enjoy this podcast version of
The Golf Show from sports Radio AM seven sixty. The
ticket now from sports Radio AM seven sixty to the ticket.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
This is another edition of The Golf Show. The Golf
Show brought to you by MK Golf Tech, Joe Caruso's
Golf Academy and by Alamo City Golf Trail. Now on
the first t Andy Everett.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Well, good morning. This is dakered Munio's in for Andy Everett.
Andy is away in Scotland and enjoying his eleven rounds
in eleven days with him and his buddy's having such
a great time. I've seen a couple of his posts
on Facebook giving us a full description almost on a
daily basis. So he'll be back here next Saturday morning
at eight o'clock. Our number is two ten seven, three
(00:49):
six nine seven sixty in studio with me right now
as a President and CEO of the Alimal City Golf Trail,
Andrew Peterson, longtime sponsor Alimal City Golf Trail of this
fine golf show. Good to see you, sir.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
Thank you, David. Honored to be here and look forward
to visiting this morning.
Speaker 5 (01:04):
It's going to be great.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Now, first things for us, let's talk about some updates
here with the Alimal City Golf Trail. I want to
ask you about Willow Springs and the regrassing project going on.
Speaker 5 (01:13):
How's that going exceptionally well.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
We've got eight facilities on the Alimal City Golf Trail,
and it seems like for the last four or five
years we've constantly had one closed for renovation purposes. We
closed Willow Springs March and have had it close now
for the last ninety days or so. We've regrassed the
entire golf course aside from part of the rough, so
the fairways, approaches, greens, surrounds, tea boxes are all receiving
(01:36):
Platinum past Pallam. It's kind of the newest and latest
variety in grass. It grows really well in salty environments,
so typically seashore locations the Carolina's, Florida, Hawaii, Caribbean coasts
where saltwater is more prevalent. The reason that we went
with a sobiety grass at Willow Springs is because of
the affluent water. The recycled water there has a high
(01:58):
solemnity content them. So we beita tested it last year
on the putting green and shipping green and they both
turned out exceptionally well. So we moved it onto the
entire golf course and we're ahead of schedule and we
look to open at some point in July.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Now, what are the blessings? And I'm sure you know
over I'm going with this recently with the grassing going on,
with the regrassing, all this wonderful rain. Now that can
be good and bad, has it been more good than bad?
At Willow Springs.
Speaker 5 (02:26):
It's equally as good.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
It's certainly it's not going to hurt past pollen to
get rainfall water. And I think that's one of the
reasons it thrives as well in those salty environments is
they tend to get more rain than inland places.
Speaker 5 (02:39):
So from that standpoint, it's helped.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
But you talk about rainwater, we use a recycled water
at six of our eight golf courses. So even the
places that use Bermuda grasses, they get a salt build
up in them. So when Mother Nature benefits us like
it has this past week, it kind of leaches out
or washes out the salt content that's in the Bermuda grass.
So people going forward over the next couple of weeks,
(03:02):
you will see some really pristine course conditions because the
grass just starts glowing now that has got that natural
rainfall in it.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Andrew Peterson is our guest from the Olevele City Golf Trail. Andrew,
here's a question that maybe has never been asked for you.
I know that whenever there is the inclement weather and
there is no golf plate on certain days, that's kind
of like a hotel not being able to sell the
room because you cannot make it up. When you go
into your budgeting for the upcoming physical year, you know,
how many rain days do you guys allow in other words,
(03:31):
or is there something that's even discussed like that.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
I don't know the ins and outs of what you.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Guys do, but I thought about this last night and
I figured i'd ask you that question right now, because
you have to plan for some rain days as you
can't make up that revenue that's lost whenever there is
no golf.
Speaker 5 (03:43):
Yeah, savvy, questioned David.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
And certainly something that we have to pour a lot
of time into in preparation for. We've kept historic averages
of our weather related impacted days over the last fifteen years,
so what we do is we base our budgetary numbers
off historic averag so we've got a pretty good idea
and certainly, if you're going to have heavy rainfall years,
you're going to probably miss your target, and if you've
(04:06):
got dry years, you'll probably exceed your budget.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Do you know how many rain days you guys actually
plan when you're scheduling your budget?
Speaker 5 (04:12):
Thirty five?
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Thirty five days? Okay, has there been a year since
you've been with the Alamo City Golf Field? Has there
been a year where you did not reach thirty five days?
Speaker 4 (04:22):
Each of the last two years, we've only had twenty eight. Now,
the way we track weather impacted days is a little
bit different from just rainfall days, because there's going to
be rainfall days where you're going to get a quarter
of inch at night where it's not going to impact
golf at all, but if you get a gully washer
during the day, that impacts it heavily.
Speaker 5 (04:38):
But we don't necessarily count rain days.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
We count them more as weather impacted days, So that
could include frozen days in the winter time that would
count as a weather impacted day for us.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Okay, I saw this for the first time this past
winter I'd never seen it before, and I've been here
all my life, but I guess I just because I
hadn't driven by golf courses during the time when it's
been freezing or whatever. But they do cover the greens.
They cover the greens on all the courses and all
the greens. I've never seen that before myself. Yeah, super
(05:09):
question again, David.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
We've got what we call greens covers or simplistic name
would be tarps that we use at four of the
eight golf courses. And they're expensive, so we have only
about four sets so far, but we're going to expand
out and continue to buy them, so we have tarps
for each.
Speaker 5 (05:24):
Of the golf course. And in tarp is not a
fair word.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
A tarp is maybe what you'd use when you're camping
to put over your head as a rain shelter. This
is a synthetic type of material that's built to insulate
the greens. In fact, this past winter we put a
thermometer in the ground and when the tarp was covered
or when the green was covered with the tarp, it
(05:47):
read ten degrees warmer than what the actual air temperature was.
So they definitely work and they help with wind pressure,
a freezing rain, those types of things. So we bottom
at riverside almost space in Brackenridge Park and Cedar Creek,
and we got them there first because the greens are newer,
and a green when it's new is like an infant.
(06:08):
You're more susceptible to being ill. Your immune system's a
lot weaker. And same with a new putting green, whereas
an older putting surface, a mission to lago or northern hills,
that's like a middle aged person.
Speaker 5 (06:21):
So that's when your immune systems the strongest.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
But then of course, if you get a putting green
that's aged beyond its normal capacity or it's usable capacity,
it's like when we get elderly, your immune system goes
back down to infant status and you can get sick
a lot quicker.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
We're just joining us this morning. It is a ticket
seven sixty golf show. Andrew Peterson, the president and CEO
from the Lama City Golf Trails, are our guest. Andrew,
I've heard this many many years ago that whenever there's
frost on the ground in the wintertime, you do not
open the golf course until the frost is gone. And
I've heard that if you step on a piece of grass,
it hats, frosts, it kills that foot or whatever the
(06:57):
case might be.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
Is that actually, yeah, I don't know the technical term
for it. Our director of agronomy would probably be punching
me in the nose right now. It like crystallizes and
when you step on it, the grass actually breaks in
half and it shatters the root system underneath. So in
the week or two after that incident was to happen
(07:19):
and it occur, you would see literal of footmarks where
those footprints took place. So it kills that grass, and
it doesn't kill it forever. It'll take a while for
it to come back, but it certainly damages for an
extended period of time.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Very interesting, all right, alanmocitygolftrail dot com is the website.
Tell us about what's going on this summer, especially with
Father's Day coming up. You may want to think about
getting Dad something this year for Father's Day. It's only
two weeks from tomorrow. In case you did not know,
it's June fifteenth this year. Andrew, what do you recommend
as far as gift giving for Dad?
Speaker 4 (07:50):
Well, David, if I didn't know any better, I would
say that's a shameless plug calling out to your family
and your kids, but well done in disguise. Of course,
Father's Days it's the perfect time to shop for that
beloved golf father in your life. Gift cards, punch cards,
range certificates, whatever that looks like, merchandise, hats, gloves or else.
(08:11):
Just book a tea time on the trail and come
play with your dad. The golf courses are rounding into
fantastic shape. We got off to a little bit of
a slow start at a couple of courses of spring,
but everywhere is drastically improved and all the courses are
going to be great come Father's Day.
Speaker 5 (08:25):
How do those punch cards work?
Speaker 4 (08:28):
So we sail a five round punch card and it's
usable by anyone. You can pass it along to family
and friends. You can take out your buddies, or you
can use it yourself for five routes. But it's usable
on any Alimal City Golf Trail course, seven days a
week at any time.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Very good more information of course at Alamo City Golf
Trail dot com. I do want to bring this up
only because I did bring it up last week when
I was in your fieling in for Andy I wanted
to thank you guys, especially Ruben Caraveo, for doing that
special on me, because April twenty third was year since
my dad took me out to play golf for the
first time at Riverside, and Ruben met me there that
morning and he conducted the interview, took a couple of photos,
(09:08):
and I was just very touched by how it looked
on the website. I did not know that it was
going to go up the same day, but somebody tested
me and said, hey, Dave, have you seen this. It's
a great story, and I thought, wow, it's already up there.
I was touched by that piece, David. I thought that
was super cool.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
And I've got some fond memories of playing golf with
my dad, and it hasn't been sixty years, but when
it does get to be sixty years at a hold
a special spot in my mind too.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
Well. I drove by there yesterday because ironically, twenty five
years ago yesterday, my dad did die, so I went
by the golf course. I always go by the golf
course on the way to the cemetery at Mission Park South,
and it just is one of those things because, as
I mentioned in the interview, for some unknown reason other
than maybe divine intervention in the funeral procession, took us
right by riverside. It was like kind of God giving
(09:51):
him one last chance to look at the golf course.
That's I saw it.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
Well, you're welcome there anytime, and if you just want
to come and ponder your father and sit under a
pecan tree and welcome.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
So, thank you very very much. Okay, we're gonna be
having a special guest with us. I won't say his
name just yet. I might have linked it out of
the beginning, who knows, But we're gonna be having a
special guest during our next I've been coming up in
just about four or five minutes or so. Our number
if you have a question for Andrew Peterson two ten, seven, three,
six nine seven sixty
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