Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:03):
We're in studio right now with Andrew Peterson, President and
CEO of the Alama City Golf Trail. Do you have
a question for him? It was to call it two
to one zero, seven, three, six nine seven sixty Andrew.
In the latest edition of Golf Magazine, they have with
a list as the one hundred best golf holes in America. Yes,
they include number seven at Pebble Beach, number seventeen at TPC,
(00:23):
and a few others, and all that. The best second
shot in golf is known to be the number eight
hole at Pebble Beach, which I will agree with as well.
Now Here in San Antonio, on your golf courses, in
your opinion, what are maybe the best holes? I'm going
to ask you first before you answer that number for admission, No,
I'm sorry. Number four at Riverside, the one that runs
(00:45):
right along Mission Road, the long par four that's always
been one of the toughest holes, but it's also a
great hole. A Number two at Willow Springs, the six
hundred yard par five, very difficult, but nonetheless in my opinion,
two of the best holes in San Antonio.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
On the Alama City Golf I think there's like you said,
it's a personal preference.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
There's a lot of subjectivity involved in what makes a
hole great. Is it a hole that you make a
birdie on. Is it a hole that you've got to
work hard to make a par on? Is it a
hole that's esthetically pleasing. Is it a hole that's got
a cool backdrop and cool landscaping around it?
Speaker 2 (01:17):
You know, it's really hard to say.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
We've got one hundred and forty four holes in the
Alamo City golf Trail, and I would say it's about
one hundred and forty that I like, So it'd be
a tough list for me to narrow down. I'm partial
to number six at Riverside, the one that runs along Roosevelt.
You had mentioned it earlier, and when the commercial breaks
that you hit one close one time and had a
tap in for birdie. I think that's good. I like
(01:39):
fourteen at Brackenridge Park. I think that way that green
plateaus up on that hole that runs along to eighty one,
you're typically hitting a longer ish second shot into that hole, so.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
I think that makes that extremely challenging.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Number seventeen at Cedar Creek, that downhill par three that's
got the cool backdrop and the elevated tea box.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
I think that makes a hunting hole.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
And in fact, you could probably pick out ten holes
at Cedar Creek from an esthetic standpoint and a playability
or challenge standpoint that are pretty fantastic. I like the
eighteenth hole at Willow Springs, the uphill par three with
the clubhouse in the eighteen and T center the excuse me,
the Frost Bank Center in the background. I think that's
that's a cool hole. There's a couple down at Mission
(02:22):
Dolago that I like. I like the the eleventh hole,
the par five, I think where you're hitting across the
ravine and you got a good chance to hit that
green in two and make a good score there. That's
always cool. I think the list goes on and on. Yeah,
we're super blessed that there's so many good holes in
San Antonio. But that's just the Alamos City Golf Trail.
(02:42):
You look outside the trail. San Antonio is a target
rich environment. There's so many good golf pros and so
many good operators and so many good clubs here in
town that the residents in this town are fortunate to
have a golf meca.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
You mentioned number seventeen over at Cedar Creek. Last time
I played that, before you close it down, it was
a pretty lengthy par three. Is a length still the
same on that one?
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Oh yeah?
Speaker 3 (03:03):
If you're all the way back, you're probably hitting something
with a head cover on it, so it'll test you
for sure. It typically, at least in the summertime, will
be into the wind to a certain degree, so that'll
cause it a little bit more so, but you're probably
at least a club and a half down With the
elevation change, that kind of helps level out a little
(03:24):
bit of the distance.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
The whole before. Then, I believe number sixteen it's a
par four with a little bit of a bend to
the right the way that it was before. Last time
I played it. You had the green that was kind
of like a horseshoe with down to the center. It
was a lower level than if the pin were up
on the top or the far right or left.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Is that green still the same?
Speaker 1 (03:43):
In other words, So if you have a pin placement
on the back on that particular green, if you don't
get there, you're going to be down way below that.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Then you have to hit an Uphillpott David. Your recollection
is exceptionally good.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
You nailed it, and that's exactly the way it still
plays when we resurface the greens. Didn't change the contouring
in the greens. We just simply enlarged them back to
their original sized and regrasped them with a more contemporary
putting surface.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
But that's exactly right.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
There's no bunkers on that hole, so not a lot
of defense from that, but your ability to place the
ball in the right tier in the green is super important.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
At Ceedar Creek Number eight is one that sometimes draws
a little bit of ire from people because you've got
that wall that is to the left side in the
main driving area and that's.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Still there as well. Well, we can't.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
It's hard to remove those types of things, so no,
we would never want to. It provides an esthetic beauty
on that hole and it's got a very cool look.
We're playing that holes car path only right now, and
I think that's frustrating to some people, but it sure
makes the turf off the goods, so you're hitting off
a solid lie.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
But yeah, an uphill par four, you don't always see.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Where the hole's located on the greens, so once again
your ability to land the spot in the right section
of the greens.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Important.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Last question about Ceedar Creek is number nine par five.
If I remember correctly, it had a bowl shaped fairway,
so it was kind of well, I'd say it was very,
very forgiving. If you veered rder left a little bit,
the ball would almost always roll back down to the center.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Has that changed at all? No, not at all.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
And I think that's what made that hole so inviting
to people is if you missed it slightly right or
slightly left, you're going to come back to center. Now
when we say slightly, if you get beyond slightly, then
you're probably out in the two leaves somewhere and you
might want to retease.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
So yeah, fun hole for sure.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
If you have any questions for Andrew Peterson from the
Alimal City Golf Trail and give us to call it
two one zero seven three six nine seven sixty. Last
week at the the Charles Schwab Challenge at Colonial in
Fort Worth, Ben Griffin came out on top, finishing twelve
under par, one shot better than Maddy Schmid. Scottie Scheffler
barely made the cut, but he had a better weekend
and he finished up four shots back at eight under par.
(05:55):
This week, it's a memorial going on in Dublin, Ohio.
Ben Griffin and Nick Taylor tied for the lead at
seven hundred par, two shots ahead of Ax Shapatilla and
Scotti Scheffer back at three shots back at four hundred par.
Let me get your thoughts on Scotti Schuffer. I think
now we've seen so many guys over the last ten
fifteen years or so saying, Hey, that guy might be
(06:16):
the next Tiger, and this and that. Scott he's won
fifteen times, He's only twenty eight years old, He's won
three majors. You had Rory just recently win the career
Grand Slam, but it took him eleven years before he
got that since he won his last major. How do
you feel about Scotti Shuffer right now?
Speaker 2 (06:34):
I really like him.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
I don't think he's very dynamic yet, but it seems
like in the last years so his personalities started to emerge,
and I think he's becoming a little bit more of
a creative guy. I think he's certainly starting to polarizing
is certainly not the right word, but his personality is
(06:57):
becoming more evident, and I think he's become more comfortable
in the spotlight. I don't think anybody out there would
have a hard time if he was to surpass some records.
And I don't know if he'll ever get to the
wins record that the Tiger did, or the major record
that Tiger did. But my guess is he goes down
as a top ten player of all time.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
I don't think that would surprise me at all.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
I forget who it was that I heard this talking
on one of the sports shows last week that Scotti
Chuffeur might be the Tim Duncan of the PGA Tour.
Because Tim, you couldn't get under his skin. I remember
a couple of the other guys that were just trash
talking to him and so forth.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
On the court.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
He would just stand there kind of have a bit
of a smirk on his face as if to say,
are you done yet? And Tim would go out there
and just kill him. And I think Scotty has got
the same mental attitude that he is just unflappable. He
makes a bad shot, he forgets about it, and he
comes back and he does well again. Kevin Garnett was
one of the guys that was trash talking Tim Duncan,
a long time ago, and Tim just stood there as
(07:56):
if to say, are you crazy? You know, but he
didn't say anything back to him.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
That is an incredible comparison or analogy. I had not
heard that before, but it makes perfect sense, and I
think they would both be flattered if they knew that
they were in the same sentence together.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
I see Scotty winning quite a few more tournaments overall.
I know he's got a long way to go to
catch you the guys as you mentioned Tiger and Samsey
with eighty two wins, Jack of course, with the all
time record for overall major wins. Tiger's three back of
that still a long way togo. The jury's going to
be out for quite some time. But I think if
anybody can do it, it will be Scotty. More so now,
(08:34):
it's always been said, and it's so hard to win
on the PGA Tour because of the fact that there
is such a deep, deep pool of very very good golfers.
I think that pool is probably at its deepest right now.
That's what's made it so much more difficult for somebody
to come out and win multiple majors.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Yeah, I think that.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Boy, we could debate the live thing for perpetuity, and
I think that eventually ends and anything it comes back together.
But it is really cool to watch the majors still today, though,
because you know you're going to get the d Schambau's
and the John Rams and the players that play live
to be able to play in the majors, and I
think that's going to remain competitive for quite some time.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
I don't ever watch anything on live. I mean, there's
hardly anything available for me to watch. But even if
I were made, even if I did have the capability
of watching, I probably wouldn't. When those guys left, I said,
y'all can go do whatever the heck you want, you know,
And yes, I would probably take somebody's offer to make
more money at work less depending on what the situation was.
(09:34):
But I think that there are certain loyalties that you
should retain, and I think that these guys should retain
their loyalty to the PGA Tour. But it's their choice.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
I think that they regret that decision for sure.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
I would be lying if I said I've never watched
the live golf, and it.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Hasn't been a lot by any stretch. I've certainly seen
a little.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
I just don't like the shotgun start format because it's
hard to track where they stand against the field and
where they stand against each other, so that aspect don't
particularly like. But I think, like I prefaced, I think
it's all going to go away here in the near future,
and they're all going to be back playing together and sometime.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
I'm with you, and I hope that that is the case.
There are a couple of golfers that I do like
on the live tour. John Ram was one of them.
Bryson has gained some of my respect in like twice
and years as well. There are some others who shall
remain nameless that I have no use for. I will
not mention them at all. I won't give him that courtesy.
But I do hope that everything gets it self resolved
(10:28):
and everybody's able to play under one tour again.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
I enjoy watching the Abraham answer to We've got a
good mutual friend, and Abraham lives here in town and
he's a San Antonio guy. He does stuff for junior
golf in San Antonio and he's been supportive of the
local golf community, so he's an easy one to root
for too.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
And we hope we see him back on the big
stage as well.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Okay, going back to what you said earlier that you
were up in Duluth, Minnesota. How long were you up there?
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Well, I graduated from Duluthy's High School a few years ago,
so yeah, I grew up in Duluth and spent my
childhood there.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
What was the coldest temperature, not wind show, what's the
coldest temperature you actually experienced up there?
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Well, we had a June day that was about six degrees.
I know, I kid do it.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
It was probably seventeen degrees in June, but I would
be lying. I'd probably need to put my dad on
speed dial to call him. But I would guess that
we probably saw negative twenty as a raw number, probably
without doubt. But you know, it's kind of crazy. I
think it's just like people in San Antonio or wherever
you live. It seems like everything's gotten a little bit
(11:31):
warmer now because they close schools when it's zero degrees
in Duluth. And I remember back in the day zero
degrees we'd walk to school. So I don't you know,
maybe the older we get, the better we were type
of thing.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
All right, very good?
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Is it take a seven sixty Golf Show, one more
segment to go, still time if you want to give
a call and ask Andrew Peterson a question or two
our number two one zero seven three six nine seven
sixty