June 29, 2025 • 17 mins
It's tax return season, which means "free money" for beauty products (even though it's definitely not free, but we're choosing to ignore that). This week, Kelly and Leigh are tackling your burning beauty questions while simultaneously questioning whether audits are worth celebrating with Mecca bronzer... they absolutely are!
We're diving into the great fragrance debate – should Cassidy ditch her signature scent just because her friends think it's too heavy for summer barbecues? Plus, Jane's turning 40 and wondering if she needs to completely overhaul her makeup routine. Don't miss Leigh's crazy find... stick-on toenails from Kmart and Kelly's hack for side sleepers who want heatless curls without the discomfort.
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
You're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast. Mama Mia acknowledges
the traditional owners of land and waters that this podcast
is recorded on Makeup is My Therapy. I'm obsessed and
I don't even feel guilty about it. Hello, and welcome
to you Beauty the Daily Podcast for your Face. I'mly Campbell.
(00:32):
I'm killing mccarm way. You being weird because it's the
end of the financial You're thirtieth of June, and that
just means we've got paperwork to do. Yes. No, you
get your tax returned. You get to spend it on
beauty products because it's free money.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
My accountant sucks. I never get anything back. My accountant
is my mother. Ah, I always have to pay more
money not and then you.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Probably give her her favorite locks of time that I
don't like to do that. I feel like the middle
of the year is depressing enough. Doing a tax with
hern is bad. But then someone get money true, and
it feels free even though it's not.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
My sister got audited last year. She did not get money.
It was terrified.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
I got audited a two years. Oh. I didn't even like.
I just don't know people that get audited. Well, I
did and it was all by the book, and then
I went off and bought myself a bronzea from Mecca
to reward one. Oh yes, okay, So on Mondays's not
textis yeah, this is not a financial podcast named Gowd,
although Kelly does a very good Kelly Math from time
to the confusion that I just looked at you, I
(01:29):
was no, I think I've got some Kelly math in
another episode coming up soon. But you ask us questions,
we answer them. So Ubis, if you have something you
want to ask us, you can email you Beauty at
mamamea dot com dot au. You can hit us up
on Instagram or Kelly and I personally on our fatboom
and we pass it on to the producer. We have
a good old chat and we hope that our answers
(01:50):
help you. I couldn't help, but wonder ask me anything.
You ask pleny questions. So what are we doing today?
Kel all right?
Speaker 2 (01:59):
So later on the episode, we do have a question
from a ub who wants to know if she needs
to be mixing things up as she gets closer to
a milestone birthday. But first Cassidy wrote to us beauty
question is seasonal Perfume switching actually necessary. I've always won
the exact same cent year round, but friends say my
perfume is too heavy for summer. Should I be investing
(02:21):
in different fragrances for winter and summer? Or is this
just clever marketing. Who's gonna tell Cassidy that her friends
just can't deal with her fragrance in summer?
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Maybe it's the fragrance. No, I've got a lot to
say here, Cassidy. It's not necessary. Nothing is necessary. It's
not but there are caveats to that, as always, like
when Kelly and I met. If you're new here, MIAs
sourced Kelly to trial for your beauty and at first
I thought she was a bit marked a lot of
people do well. Then you wrote an email saying sorry,
(02:52):
I was really excited. Anyway, we got Kelly on. She
was amazing. We were on the show and for the
first two months you were marinating and whatever fragrance you wore,
and we were recording in an actual cupboard at that time,
and I couldn't concentrate us out of migraine because Kelly
wore too much. So Cassidy, you might be using too
much if you're fraidagrance. But no, you can wear the
same scent all day round. I have always had a
(03:15):
strange kind of admiration and jealousy for women that have
found their signature scent and that they wear it year
after year. And I've got some friends that I think
of immediately. However, I love fragrance so much, and in
this job I have a fragrance wardrobe as opposed to
a signature scent. But if you've got a signature scent,
wear it. I completely agree with you.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
But I do think, especially if your friends are saying something,
that it's probably not the sort of fragrance that can
be a signature scent.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
I think a.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Fragrance your signature scent. Fragrance cannot be overly strong. I
don't think.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
I don't agree it's your signature scent.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
I know, but if you're wearing like something really heady
in the middle of summer during the day, I just
think I do agree with her friends that it's just.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Like it feels like you're wearing a bikini in the snow.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Literally yeah, or same thing if you're wearing I mean,
I don't think I think you can wear something light
in the winter more so, but I remember I wore
Oh my goodness, I have such a good example, Georgio
Armani c I took it to Bali.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Why it is perfect?
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Still, Look, fragrance is so heavy, but it's in intense.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
You need something light, fruity, floral. No, you don't need
you know what you need to go to Bali your passport.
You can wear any fragrance you want.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Obviously, But this she's asking because her friends have said something.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
So obviously, Cassidy, this is impossible. I'd need to know
your sense, yes, sir, I'd love to know. She's like
it's der poison, yeah, or if it's like terry mugular,
alien or angel or just not nice. No, that's not true. Listen,
you might be wearing an ed P version, which is
a strong version. They might be an d T. You
(04:58):
might be able to get a body lotion version, you
know how can get those gift sets, particularly at Christmas.
You might be wearing too much one spray. They know,
if it's light, they might not eat even like it.
But I'm like you are like heady, woody, masculine fragrances.
I do like my white flowers in summer, like we're
very much a jasmine. But I wear whatever I want,
(05:20):
and I put on my fragrance. I have put in
my clothes depending what my mood is, and so I
will wear a really heady fragrance in the middle of summer.
Would you to the beach though, I guess that's what
no one wears fragrance of the beach. I do what
not with alcohol in it, not like a growin tea
or something.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
I completely agree with you, but I think we're thinking
too broadly.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Let's think more niche casid is. But Cassidy has a signature.
I know how she's wearing deal poison to but do
your poison is her life? Cue? What else is she
gonna wear? She doesn't have anymore. It's her signature scent.
It's her signature. She can't go sign her signature on
a contract with another name one day, you could, it
is Cassidy. I'm so pro you having a signature. All
(06:04):
the people I know that have a signature scent makes
me think of them in their amazing memories. Please, I
will pay you money to go to the Ubidy group
and tell us the scent because I want to know too. Yeah,
I think it's fine. I think your friends need more
important things. To talk about unless nuh okay, they're being drowned.
But she doesn't have anything else to choose from. She
has one. It's a signature.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Well, she's asking if she thinks that she should get
a different one. I think she totally should get a
different one. Doesn't have to mean that she spends a
lot of money, but just something like nice and light, true.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
For the barbecues. Well. Also, Cassidy, it's winter now, so
you spirts that signature. I loved that. I loved how
deep we got for that. But you know what, I just.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Really like to get super niche with things, which is
why the more information the better.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Agree. What were your actual product recommendations? Oh no, I
was just going to say, if you have the perform version,
try if there's an eedt or a mist or even
a body lotion. Yeah, you could even switch a little
bit into like a body oil and put that on,
like just don't spray too much on. Yeah, but also
tell your friends to suck it up. Yeah, exactly. So
coming up after the break, a question from a Ubie
(07:12):
who needs to know what she should be retiring from
her makeup collection. Jane senters a Facebook DM.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
I've been using the same makeup products for years and
they've served me well. But I'm turning forty next month,
and I'm wondering if I need to switch things up.
Are there certain products or techniques I should retire and
others I should embrace?
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Happy birthday to Yeah, happy birthday, Happy birthday, Jane, Welcome
to the fourth level. It's pretty great here, Kelly wouldn't
know yet. Such a spring chicken. Now, interesting question. You say,
you've used the same makeup products for years and they've
served you well. Keep going, girl, If you like them,
don't change it. However, it kind of depends on your
(07:57):
skin type, your skin concerns, and what you're currently using.
So your skin will, you know, naturally start to get
drier as estrogen and progesterone do their thing in your forties.
I was recently in viewed by the wonderful Hollyween right
on mids, which is the podcast she hosts It's Fabulous,
and we spoke for about an hour about skincare and
makeup for women in their forties and fifties. And we'll
(08:20):
put a link in the show notes because I go
into a lot more detail there. But this was one
of the questions was you know, women of this age
and experience should we change things? And I talked a
bit on there about mostly cream products, because a cream
product like a obviously liquid foundation, but bronzes and concealers
and blush more mimix your natural skin texture as opposed
(08:41):
to powders, especially when we get drier. They're just generally
more hydrating. Possibly switching to a tubular mascao if you
don't use one already, because our eyelids start to droop
and then transfers a lot easier. On that episode, I
do refer them to them as my foreskins, my eyelids,
so it's quite an interesting listen to pull them back.
But my number one biggest recommendation for women who are
(09:02):
reaching this area area o Era, just you know, maturity
is a concealer because you naturally feel like you're tighter
and looking more experienced than ever before, So you reach
for a kind of really full coverage, really creamy, but
it sets in fine lines. It just makes things look
more pronounced. I'm trying not to say awful words greasy, cakey, yes,
(09:27):
try correct you.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Last week were like Elba Andreas looks like actual bullsack.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Let's still do. No.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
I was gonna just say, do you have a recommendation
what you've got on today? Because they look so dewy.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
I actually have what I've got on today here, so
I have been on a journey. Generally you want to
go for more lightweight textures, a bit light reflecting, not sparkly,
but nothing too heavy steaks sparkles. No, but you know
how like some light reflecting or almost a highlighter. So
I have many that I've recommended over the years on here.
I love the rare Beauty under eye brightener, I love
(09:57):
the Revolution beauty. But the one I've got on today
and that I discovered recently is the Seam, which is
a Korean brand. It's the same concealer. It's tiny, it's phenomenal.
I've bought three shades. Do you not profit for you? No,
let me just check. I have linkedinal link it obviously
in the show notes. It's probably the most full coverage
of one of these concealers. At the time of recording.
(10:19):
It's six dollars and forty eight stop and look. I
like it in my forties, but anyone younger can you
use it? Because it's just phenomenal. So yeah, just lighter textures.
You want to reach for more coverage and more makeup,
but it's the opposite, that's my opinion. Okay, No, I
completely agree, Like obviously I'm not obviously I'm just staying.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
To put Obviously there was a real big but I
completely agree. Just less powdery products, Like, let's always err
on the side of more liquid unless you're really oily.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Yeah, but even like I'm way less oily than I was.
I'm forty three now. And also it's the dead of winter,
and so Lee's summer skin and Lee's winter skin could
not be more different from yeah, oh not that, but yeah,
but you've gone from dry to dry content from dry
to yeah, dear lord, scaly, even like a tiny drop
of tiny drop of face oil and your foundation can
(11:10):
make your face just look really radiant and lump and dewey. Yes,
so play around and like you're say, if it's working
for you, there's absolutely nothing you need to change. Agree
after the break, host Tax, what you makeup packs? Okay,
(11:33):
Host Tax and Kelly, I need you to go first,
because I've got those Grandma heatless curls. Oh I thought
it was one of those hangers I used for minutes
from my dumpers that you never used to a heatless
curl before. No, I thought that was a coat hanger
that Grandma's sold at the market. No, this is a
heatless curl thingy. The gingy tube as a cube rub
(11:54):
like a metalania touch it, it's not. It's like foam
thick phone. It's a pool noodle.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
It actually is a little bit of a poor noodle anyway.
But I don't know about you. Are you a backsleeper
or no, you're a tummy sig tummy sleeper. I think
that the majority of people are sleep Yeah, so unless
you're a back sleeper, heatless curls like this just doesn't work.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
It's so uncomptless as it's impossible. So I've come up
with a hack for my side sleepers tell me, and
it looks really good.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
I haven't done it like not today. Obviously I've got
straight hair. Plus my hair is at a length where
it's very news readery if it's curly, so I won't.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Be doing it for the public home. I respect to
the news readers. We love your hair.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
No, no, no, it's just a specific look. So I'm
sure you've seen people using heatless curls. Maybe you've tried
one yourself. You can diy one, but you can pick
them up for a couple of dollars. It's just like
this silk chewby thing that you wrap your hair around.
Generally they are from ear to ear, so they sit
sort of across your head and then it looks like
you've got two big wrapped brady things on each side
(12:56):
of your ears. But in order to sleep on your side,
if you're a side sleeper like me, I like to
put it down the back of my head, so sort
of running vertically from my forehead down the back of
my part, so just down the middle of my head
and down my back, and I wrap it around the
back so as if I'm doing just one braid down
(13:18):
the back of my head.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
And then you just like tied it at the bottom.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
You can clip it at the top to hold it
in place why you're doing it, and then you take
the clip off. And it's so good because that way,
if you're a side sleeper, you will not notice it.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
You've got it in your head. Why won't you just
braid your hair without as full noodle in a very
different effect. This gives proper blowout curls. Heatless curls are
really good.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
They don't last the same as like a dice in
air apple actually curling, but there's no heat and you
can like the idea is that you can just sleep
in it and then wake up with really good hair, but.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
You will wake up with proper you know, braided hair.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Kind of just looks like I went surfing and then
use some sea salt spread.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
You took your hair out after fizzy? Yeah, physic, it's fizzy.
Didn't you do fizzy when you're little? Or am I
really old physical culture? I don't know what that is?
So okay, great, I love your noodle anyway, that is
my host tac. What is yours? Well? I enjoyed that
mine is probably taking it down or not, okay, if
that's possible. Remind your mind to fashion week a few
(14:17):
months ago. I forgot to tell this story, okay, but
it is about to be fashion week. I haven't planned
any outfits, but all I know is that I've kicked
one of my toes to the point where my big
toe is not the whole toe. The big toe now
is mostly missing.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Oh gross, are you telling this story about when you
painted on a fake toe? Again, excuse me, I stuck
on a I didn't. Okay, it's not a toe. We
need to refer to it as a toe nail. I
had a toe.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Yes, I am very rough with my feet. My pedicure
person when I go just says, I do not know
what you do with these feet. So I had acrylic
nails on and you still kicked it off. I kicked
it off three days later. This is prior to the
stick on toe. I found the bit of hark and
I super glued it back on. It worked for weeks.
(15:03):
That's disgusting. I know. Then I kicked that off. I
don't know what I do with my feet anyway. It's
right for fashion week, I might wear open toes. This
is a disaster. I don't have time to go to
a pedicure. I googled stick on nails for your toes.
So there's two places I could find stick on toenails,
not just fingernails. Amazon and Camar. Where did I go? Camar?
(15:26):
Didn't I see you there? You could only get black
light pinky color and I think French toe, which I
find unusual, but that's nice. Bought the baby pink. I
just did the two big toenails, and then I painted
my other toenails with the matching pink. I did over
the color like it was a soft pink, but I
just wanted it to be a bit more opaque. Then
just painted my two big toenails after I stuck on
(15:47):
the Kmart big What happened to the other big toe?
I just put it on top of that one. Okay,
so it has nail acrylic camart fake toenail. Oh and
you probably still could have kicked it off. Yeah, I
probably could have. And now I wanted to change my peny,
but I can't explain to my lady that I've gone
in and now I've got stick on fake toenails over
my acrylic everything. So now I've just painted them that
(16:08):
look great, so they still haven't come off. I used
real life super glue instead of nail glue. It makes sense,
so the now glue sucks. I put this on my
Instagram and so many people said, oh my gosh, thank
you because my toenails and a lot of people to
go for petties or don't want to. I would simply
just wear a boot.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
But like, okay, I feel like sometimes you make your
life harder, and I know that you think that's rich
coming from me, who's just like yeah, and then you
can do this to sleep in. But like instead of
just going, you know what, I'm just gonna wear a
clothes shoe. You thought I'm gonna go to Kmart, but
then I'm gonna get some super glue.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Then I'm gonna like paint my nails. This is true.
And look it was the like fashion week was the instigator.
But I spend a lot of times at friend's house
of kids, and you'd like no shoes on as that's weird.
Why can't I just have my Kmart toes nails. You
go ahead, I just go and get you Kmart toenails.
I've got hates if anyone wants some, because I've got
to use the big toes. On that note, we hope
(17:04):
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Speaker 2 (17:15):
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Speaker 1 (17:21):
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You're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast. Mama Mia acknowledges
the traditional owners of land and waters that this podcast
is recorded on Makeup is My Therapy. I'm obsessed and
I don't even feel guilty about it. Hello, and welcome
to you Beauty the Daily Podcast for your Face. I'mly Campbell.
(00:32):
I'm killing mccarm way. You being weird because it's the
end of the financial You're thirtieth of June, and that
just means we've got paperwork to do. Yes. No, you
get your tax returned. You get to spend it on
beauty products because it's free money.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
My accountant sucks. I never get anything back. My accountant
is my mother. Ah, I always have to pay more
money not and then you.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Probably give her her favorite locks of time that I
don't like to do that. I feel like the middle
of the year is depressing enough. Doing a tax with
hern is bad. But then someone get money true, and
it feels free even though it's not.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
My sister got audited last year. She did not get money.
It was terrified.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
I got audited a two years. Oh. I didn't even like.
I just don't know people that get audited. Well, I
did and it was all by the book, and then
I went off and bought myself a bronzea from Mecca
to reward one. Oh yes, okay, So on Mondays's not
textis yeah, this is not a financial podcast named Gowd,
although Kelly does a very good Kelly Math from time
to the confusion that I just looked at you, I
(01:29):
was no, I think I've got some Kelly math in
another episode coming up soon. But you ask us questions,
we answer them. So Ubis, if you have something you
want to ask us, you can email you Beauty at
mamamea dot com dot au. You can hit us up
on Instagram or Kelly and I personally on our fatboom
and we pass it on to the producer. We have
a good old chat and we hope that our answers
(01:50):
help you. I couldn't help, but wonder ask me anything.
You ask pleny questions. So what are we doing today?
Kel all right?
Speaker 2 (01:59):
So later on the episode, we do have a question
from a ub who wants to know if she needs
to be mixing things up as she gets closer to
a milestone birthday. But first Cassidy wrote to us beauty
question is seasonal Perfume switching actually necessary. I've always won
the exact same cent year round, but friends say my
perfume is too heavy for summer. Should I be investing
(02:21):
in different fragrances for winter and summer? Or is this
just clever marketing. Who's gonna tell Cassidy that her friends
just can't deal with her fragrance in summer?
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Maybe it's the fragrance. No, I've got a lot to
say here, Cassidy. It's not necessary. Nothing is necessary. It's
not but there are caveats to that, as always, like
when Kelly and I met. If you're new here, MIAs
sourced Kelly to trial for your beauty and at first
I thought she was a bit marked a lot of
people do well. Then you wrote an email saying sorry,
(02:52):
I was really excited. Anyway, we got Kelly on. She
was amazing. We were on the show and for the
first two months you were marinating and whatever fragrance you wore,
and we were recording in an actual cupboard at that time,
and I couldn't concentrate us out of migraine because Kelly
wore too much. So Cassidy, you might be using too
much if you're fraidagrance. But no, you can wear the
same scent all day round. I have always had a
(03:15):
strange kind of admiration and jealousy for women that have
found their signature scent and that they wear it year
after year. And I've got some friends that I think
of immediately. However, I love fragrance so much, and in
this job I have a fragrance wardrobe as opposed to
a signature scent. But if you've got a signature scent,
wear it. I completely agree with you.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
But I do think, especially if your friends are saying something,
that it's probably not the sort of fragrance that can
be a signature scent.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
I think a.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Fragrance your signature scent. Fragrance cannot be overly strong. I
don't think.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
I don't agree it's your signature scent.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
I know, but if you're wearing like something really heady
in the middle of summer during the day, I just
think I do agree with her friends that it's just.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Like it feels like you're wearing a bikini in the snow.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Literally yeah, or same thing if you're wearing I mean,
I don't think I think you can wear something light
in the winter more so, but I remember I wore
Oh my goodness, I have such a good example, Georgio
Armani c I took it to Bali.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Why it is perfect?
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Still, Look, fragrance is so heavy, but it's in intense.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
You need something light, fruity, floral. No, you don't need
you know what you need to go to Bali your passport.
You can wear any fragrance you want.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Obviously, But this she's asking because her friends have said something.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
So obviously, Cassidy, this is impossible. I'd need to know
your sense, yes, sir, I'd love to know. She's like
it's der poison, yeah, or if it's like terry mugular,
alien or angel or just not nice. No, that's not true. Listen,
you might be wearing an ed P version, which is
a strong version. They might be an d T. You
(04:58):
might be able to get a body lotion version, you
know how can get those gift sets, particularly at Christmas.
You might be wearing too much one spray. They know,
if it's light, they might not eat even like it.
But I'm like you are like heady, woody, masculine fragrances.
I do like my white flowers in summer, like we're
very much a jasmine. But I wear whatever I want,
(05:20):
and I put on my fragrance. I have put in
my clothes depending what my mood is, and so I
will wear a really heady fragrance in the middle of summer.
Would you to the beach though, I guess that's what
no one wears fragrance of the beach. I do what
not with alcohol in it, not like a growin tea
or something.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
I completely agree with you, but I think we're thinking
too broadly.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Let's think more niche casid is. But Cassidy has a signature.
I know how she's wearing deal poison to but do
your poison is her life? Cue? What else is she
gonna wear? She doesn't have anymore. It's her signature scent.
It's her signature. She can't go sign her signature on
a contract with another name one day, you could, it
is Cassidy. I'm so pro you having a signature. All
(06:04):
the people I know that have a signature scent makes
me think of them in their amazing memories. Please, I
will pay you money to go to the Ubidy group
and tell us the scent because I want to know too. Yeah,
I think it's fine. I think your friends need more
important things. To talk about unless nuh okay, they're being drowned.
But she doesn't have anything else to choose from. She
has one. It's a signature.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Well, she's asking if she thinks that she should get
a different one. I think she totally should get a
different one. Doesn't have to mean that she spends a
lot of money, but just something like nice and light, true.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
For the barbecues. Well. Also, Cassidy, it's winter now, so
you spirts that signature. I loved that. I loved how
deep we got for that. But you know what, I just.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Really like to get super niche with things, which is
why the more information the better.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Agree. What were your actual product recommendations? Oh no, I
was just going to say, if you have the perform version,
try if there's an eedt or a mist or even
a body lotion. Yeah, you could even switch a little
bit into like a body oil and put that on,
like just don't spray too much on. Yeah, but also
tell your friends to suck it up. Yeah, exactly. So
coming up after the break, a question from a Ubie
(07:12):
who needs to know what she should be retiring from
her makeup collection. Jane senters a Facebook DM.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
I've been using the same makeup products for years and
they've served me well. But I'm turning forty next month,
and I'm wondering if I need to switch things up.
Are there certain products or techniques I should retire and
others I should embrace?
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Happy birthday to Yeah, happy birthday, Happy birthday, Jane, Welcome
to the fourth level. It's pretty great here, Kelly wouldn't
know yet. Such a spring chicken. Now, interesting question. You say,
you've used the same makeup products for years and they've
served you well. Keep going, girl, If you like them,
don't change it. However, it kind of depends on your
(07:57):
skin type, your skin concerns, and what you're currently using.
So your skin will, you know, naturally start to get
drier as estrogen and progesterone do their thing in your forties.
I was recently in viewed by the wonderful Hollyween right
on mids, which is the podcast she hosts It's Fabulous,
and we spoke for about an hour about skincare and
makeup for women in their forties and fifties. And we'll
(08:20):
put a link in the show notes because I go
into a lot more detail there. But this was one
of the questions was you know, women of this age
and experience should we change things? And I talked a
bit on there about mostly cream products, because a cream
product like a obviously liquid foundation, but bronzes and concealers
and blush more mimix your natural skin texture as opposed
(08:41):
to powders, especially when we get drier. They're just generally
more hydrating. Possibly switching to a tubular mascao if you
don't use one already, because our eyelids start to droop
and then transfers a lot easier. On that episode, I
do refer them to them as my foreskins, my eyelids,
so it's quite an interesting listen to pull them back.
But my number one biggest recommendation for women who are
(09:02):
reaching this area area o Era, just you know, maturity
is a concealer because you naturally feel like you're tighter
and looking more experienced than ever before, So you reach
for a kind of really full coverage, really creamy, but
it sets in fine lines. It just makes things look
more pronounced. I'm trying not to say awful words greasy, cakey, yes,
(09:27):
try correct you.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Last week were like Elba Andreas looks like actual bullsack.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Let's still do. No.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
I was gonna just say, do you have a recommendation
what you've got on today? Because they look so dewy.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
I actually have what I've got on today here, so
I have been on a journey. Generally you want to
go for more lightweight textures, a bit light reflecting, not sparkly,
but nothing too heavy steaks sparkles. No, but you know
how like some light reflecting or almost a highlighter. So
I have many that I've recommended over the years on here.
I love the rare Beauty under eye brightener, I love
(09:57):
the Revolution beauty. But the one I've got on today
and that I discovered recently is the Seam, which is
a Korean brand. It's the same concealer. It's tiny, it's phenomenal.
I've bought three shades. Do you not profit for you? No,
let me just check. I have linkedinal link it obviously
in the show notes. It's probably the most full coverage
of one of these concealers. At the time of recording.
(10:19):
It's six dollars and forty eight stop and look. I
like it in my forties, but anyone younger can you
use it? Because it's just phenomenal. So yeah, just lighter textures.
You want to reach for more coverage and more makeup,
but it's the opposite, that's my opinion. Okay, No, I
completely agree, Like obviously I'm not obviously I'm just staying.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
To put Obviously there was a real big but I
completely agree. Just less powdery products, Like, let's always err
on the side of more liquid unless you're really oily.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Yeah, but even like I'm way less oily than I was.
I'm forty three now. And also it's the dead of winter,
and so Lee's summer skin and Lee's winter skin could
not be more different from yeah, oh not that, but yeah,
but you've gone from dry to dry content from dry
to yeah, dear lord, scaly, even like a tiny drop
of tiny drop of face oil and your foundation can
(11:10):
make your face just look really radiant and lump and dewey. Yes,
so play around and like you're say, if it's working
for you, there's absolutely nothing you need to change. Agree
after the break, host Tax, what you makeup packs? Okay,
(11:33):
Host Tax and Kelly, I need you to go first,
because I've got those Grandma heatless curls. Oh I thought
it was one of those hangers I used for minutes
from my dumpers that you never used to a heatless
curl before. No, I thought that was a coat hanger
that Grandma's sold at the market. No, this is a
heatless curl thingy. The gingy tube as a cube rub
(11:54):
like a metalania touch it, it's not. It's like foam
thick phone. It's a pool noodle.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
It actually is a little bit of a poor noodle anyway.
But I don't know about you. Are you a backsleeper
or no, you're a tummy sig tummy sleeper. I think
that the majority of people are sleep Yeah, so unless
you're a back sleeper, heatless curls like this just doesn't work.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
It's so uncomptless as it's impossible. So I've come up
with a hack for my side sleepers tell me, and
it looks really good.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
I haven't done it like not today. Obviously I've got
straight hair. Plus my hair is at a length where
it's very news readery if it's curly, so I won't.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Be doing it for the public home. I respect to
the news readers. We love your hair.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
No, no, no, it's just a specific look. So I'm
sure you've seen people using heatless curls. Maybe you've tried
one yourself. You can diy one, but you can pick
them up for a couple of dollars. It's just like
this silk chewby thing that you wrap your hair around.
Generally they are from ear to ear, so they sit
sort of across your head and then it looks like
you've got two big wrapped brady things on each side
(12:56):
of your ears. But in order to sleep on your side,
if you're a side sleeper like me, I like to
put it down the back of my head, so sort
of running vertically from my forehead down the back of
my part, so just down the middle of my head
and down my back, and I wrap it around the
back so as if I'm doing just one braid down
(13:18):
the back of my head.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
And then you just like tied it at the bottom.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
You can clip it at the top to hold it
in place why you're doing it, and then you take
the clip off. And it's so good because that way,
if you're a side sleeper, you will not notice it.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
You've got it in your head. Why won't you just
braid your hair without as full noodle in a very
different effect. This gives proper blowout curls. Heatless curls are
really good.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
They don't last the same as like a dice in
air apple actually curling, but there's no heat and you
can like the idea is that you can just sleep
in it and then wake up with really good hair, but.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
You will wake up with proper you know, braided hair.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Kind of just looks like I went surfing and then
use some sea salt spread.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
You took your hair out after fizzy? Yeah, physic, it's fizzy.
Didn't you do fizzy when you're little? Or am I
really old physical culture? I don't know what that is?
So okay, great, I love your noodle anyway, that is
my host tac. What is yours? Well? I enjoyed that
mine is probably taking it down or not, okay, if
that's possible. Remind your mind to fashion week a few
(14:17):
months ago. I forgot to tell this story, okay, but
it is about to be fashion week. I haven't planned
any outfits, but all I know is that I've kicked
one of my toes to the point where my big
toe is not the whole toe. The big toe now
is mostly missing.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Oh gross, are you telling this story about when you
painted on a fake toe? Again, excuse me, I stuck
on a I didn't. Okay, it's not a toe. We
need to refer to it as a toe nail. I
had a toe.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Yes, I am very rough with my feet. My pedicure
person when I go just says, I do not know
what you do with these feet. So I had acrylic
nails on and you still kicked it off. I kicked
it off three days later. This is prior to the
stick on toe. I found the bit of hark and
I super glued it back on. It worked for weeks.
(15:03):
That's disgusting. I know. Then I kicked that off. I
don't know what I do with my feet anyway. It's
right for fashion week, I might wear open toes. This
is a disaster. I don't have time to go to
a pedicure. I googled stick on nails for your toes.
So there's two places I could find stick on toenails,
not just fingernails. Amazon and Camar. Where did I go? Camar?
(15:26):
Didn't I see you there? You could only get black
light pinky color and I think French toe, which I
find unusual, but that's nice. Bought the baby pink. I
just did the two big toenails, and then I painted
my other toenails with the matching pink. I did over
the color like it was a soft pink, but I
just wanted it to be a bit more opaque. Then
just painted my two big toenails after I stuck on
(15:47):
the Kmart big What happened to the other big toe?
I just put it on top of that one. Okay,
so it has nail acrylic camart fake toenail. Oh and
you probably still could have kicked it off. Yeah, I
probably could have. And now I wanted to change my peny,
but I can't explain to my lady that I've gone
in and now I've got stick on fake toenails over
my acrylic everything. So now I've just painted them that
(16:08):
look great, so they still haven't come off. I used
real life super glue instead of nail glue. It makes sense,
so the now glue sucks. I put this on my
Instagram and so many people said, oh my gosh, thank
you because my toenails and a lot of people to
go for petties or don't want to. I would simply
just wear a boot.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
But like, okay, I feel like sometimes you make your
life harder, and I know that you think that's rich
coming from me, who's just like yeah, and then you
can do this to sleep in. But like instead of
just going, you know what, I'm just gonna wear a
clothes shoe. You thought I'm gonna go to Kmart, but
then I'm gonna get some super glue.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Then I'm gonna like paint my nails. This is true.
And look it was the like fashion week was the instigator.
But I spend a lot of times at friend's house
of kids, and you'd like no shoes on as that's weird.
Why can't I just have my Kmart toes nails. You
go ahead, I just go and get you Kmart toenails.
I've got hates if anyone wants some, because I've got
to use the big toes. On that note, we hope
(17:04):
those sacks were helpful. That's a rap. Bitty lovers. Thank
you for hanging out and enjoying our mad Yes today.
If you've got a question, send us a dm at
you Beauty Podcast and our fabulous producers we'll pass.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
It on asap and we'll be back in your ears
and guys, because we'll be on YouTube on Friday.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Oh yes, and this episode of You. Beauty is produced
by Molly Harwood and Sophie Campbell, with audio production by
Tina Mattlock Bye
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