June 30, 2025 • 27 mins
Ready to unlock the secret to glowing skin? It might not be in your skincare cabinet – it's in your gut! In this absolutely fascinating episode, we're diving deep into the gut-skin axis with the incredible Carla Oates from The Beauty Chef. If you've ever wondered why your skin breaks out seemingly out of nowhere, or struggled with sensitivity and conditions like eczema, this conversation will be a total game-changer. Carla's personal journey from childhood eczema sufferer to gut health guru is both inspiring and eye-opening, proving that sometimes the best skincare routine starts from the inside out.
Whether you're a complete beginner to gut health or think you know it all, Carla breaks down the complex science of how your digestive system directly impacts your skin in the most accessible way. From understanding why certain foods trigger breakouts to learning how to heal your gut for clearer, healthier skin, you'll walk away feeling like a certified expert on the gut-skin connection. Trust us – this is the kind of conversation that will have you completely rethinking your approach to skincare and wellness.
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
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that this podcast is recorded on.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Makeup is My Therapy.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
I'm in love, I'm obsessed, and I don't even feel
guilty about it.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
Hello, and welcome to you Beauty, the daily podcast for
your Face.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
I'm Kella mccaren and welcome to the formula.
Speaker 4 (00:37):
Every single week, I'm lucky enough to chat to all
sorts of celebs, experts, and the biggest names in beauty. Today,
we are delving into the wonderful wide world, if you will,
of gut health, more specifically understanding the gut health access
and how gut health can then affect and manifest itself
(00:59):
onto your skin.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
And if you didn't realize that.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
Bad gut health could do us such keep listening because
we have the Goddess of gut health here to break
it all down for you, none other than the Beauty
Chef's Carlo Oats, who is here to talk about the
fascinating connection between gut health and skin. Now, you were
just going to absolutely love this chat so much. I
(01:22):
loved it so much that we're going to have to
get color back in for part two quite soon, because
we didn't even get to touch on her skin routine.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
And I actually also.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
Just even for selfish reasons, want to know exactly what
she takes every day because my very word, she just
glows from the inside out, not just like aesthetically, she's
also just a really great person. And we hit it
off like a house on fire and did not stop
yapping until we were booted right on out of the studios.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
You are such beautiful skin.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
But how.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
We have not stopped yapping since we met in the
lunch room and I accosted you by going.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
WHOA, I thought you were going to be a lot
older than you are.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
I don't know why, but I guess I did start
the beauty chef a long time ago.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Yeah, it's working, because there's no way you have two
kids in their twenties.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
That has blown my mind.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
Firstly, we do just need to preface this chat by
making it clear that neither of us Shock Horror are
doctors or dermatologists or you know, health professionals.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
I guess so if you.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
Are listening and you've got actual concerns with your skin,
you know, flare ups of different sorts or concerns with
your gut health. Please go talk to your GP and
make sure that you get the professional help that you need. Absolutely,
So color your own journey with your company started with
xmera as a kid, and then watching your daughter go
(02:48):
through the exact same skin struggles.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
That must have been really hard.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
I suffered really bad acne as a teen, and I
already think about how much I will struggle watching Len
if he goes through that as well, because it's just
so debilitating to your confidence.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Absolutely, so talk us through.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
That, like talk us through your own history with exma
or just sensitive skin, and then watching your daughter.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
So I had really bad excellent allergies as a child,
and then as a teenager, so I had exma all
over my arms, my legs, and it was quite embarrassing.
I was really conscious of it. And then when it
would clear up, I get these big white patches on
my skin as well. And so then it goes through
stages of being I could weep, it.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Would bleed painful, imagine.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
So painful and uncomfortable, and I'd use cordisone creams and
that definitely helped to sue that, but it didn't get
to the root cause. And then it would just come
back with a vengeance and I'd take it a partlet absolutely.
And then my mum took me to see a natural
path who I think is still practicing, Penelope Sack in Willara,
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and she was amazing, and she did blood tests and
she found that I had certain food allergies. So she
eliminated certain foods from my diet introduced other foods. So
from a very young age, I saw the connection between
what we consume in our skin health, and that of
course kind of set me on my career path. And
also when my daughter, who's now twenty nearly twenty eight,
but when she was ten, she also suffered from allergies
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and exma, and I knew about what I'd taken out
of my diet, like gut compromising foods, but I stumbled
across research that looked at the connection between certain types
of gut bacteria and the gut and allergies and exma.
So I decided to put my family on a gut
healing protocol, and that included elimin kids. I know, now
(04:38):
you're going to be eating lots.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Of Sauer kraut nodes.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
And so I put our whole family on a gut
healing protocol, which included introducing lackt of fermented, probiotic rich
foods like your made coconut kfia, kombucha, Sauer kraut. I
didn't give him the kin chi that would be cool.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
I loved actually kis oh my son mind. He really
likes sour and salty things.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Yeah, it's got sixty cate taste.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
And I noticed such a big difference in her skin health,
her exma, but also her focus at school. I'm going, Wow,
there is something really interesting about this gut skin connection
and this gut wellness connection. And then my friends and
family were saying, what are you doing differently? Your skin's glowing,
And I thought, the other thing I'm doing differently is
eing is like to fermented, probotic rich foods. And so
(05:27):
I became like literally the local pusher for these weird
fermented foods in my kitchen that were growing.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
And everyone's like, I want a pickle io that bacteria?
You know?
Speaker 2 (05:36):
So I was bottling up all these ferments my friends
and family, and they noticed that their tummies felt better,
they were more regular, their skin was rating, they had
less skin sensitivity.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Deal with purple period, more regular.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
With poop, but also you know, your gut does also
regulate your hormones. This did start to focus on your
gut health. You really notice a difference with that as well,
and so I knew I was onto something. And then
I decided to bring out Glow in a beauty powder,
which was a by fermented probotic powder with pre pro
and post biotics in two thousand and nine, which was
the world's first. I thought it was very strange at
(06:10):
the time, and then been on a journey in this
sort of really passionate and unwavering mission to really educate
people about the importance of gut health for skin health
and wellbeing.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
I cannot believe it was two thousand and nine. Wow, yes,
I know, look how far you've come.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
It's amazing and also so exciting that it's a thing like,
you know, really science has caught up with nature and
also what natural paths have said for years that you know,
good health begins in your gut and there's so many
studies now that show it. And you know, you talk
to most doctors and integrative practitioners and they are like,
you know, the root cause of so many of your
issues because your gut regulates your immune metabolic, brain, everything health,
(06:49):
hormonal health. You've really got to start to look at
the gut, especially when you have you know, skin issues.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Yeah, Len actually had a lot of infections as a
baby and allergies and was on antibiotics, and so many
people then will recommend, like get him on a probodic
and prebodic because it's so important.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
It's so important.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
But can you explain to someone that's like at home
and has no idea what a microbiome is?
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Yes, how does it work, what is it? Where is it?
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Like, it's interesting because people we talk about gut health,
but what really influences your gut health more than anything
is your gut microbiome, which is basically a mini ecosystem
of tens of trillions of microorganisms that live in your
gut and that you are host to. And having a
good relationship with your gut microbiome is probably the most
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important relationship that you can ever have, because your gut
microbiome regulates your gut health, your metabolic health, your brain health,
your immune health, your skin health, everything, and a healthy
gut microbiome also helps to keep your gut health or
your gut lining nice and strong to prevent leaky gut
because when you have leaky gut that causes inflammation, you
(08:00):
have information in your body inflammation and your skin skin sensitivities.
So looking after our gut microbiome is super important. And
you know the things that we can do to really
heal that is really focus on a healthy diet lifestyle.
We know that, you know, stress, lack of sleep really
compromises our ability to maintain a healthy gut microbiome. We
know that our gut microbome loves fiber, so eating your
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diet rich in fiber, like try and aim for thirty
different types of plant based foods.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
A week for some reason, you're about to say a
day and I was about to have an actual heart attack.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
I'm struggle enough.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
With the whole I know. I even say feel bad
saying thirty a week because it's a lot. But that's
like herbs, nuts, legumes, you know, your leafy greens. Because
what happens when you consume fiber rich foods your gut
microbiome they feed on it and they ferment it and
they create these really important anti inflammatory compounds called short
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chain fatty acids, which are so important for our skin health.
Our gut health or immune health, metabolic health, brain health,
and in terms of skin sensitivity as well. We know
that where there's gut inflammation, there's going to be skin inflammation,
imped skin barriers. When you've got leak gut, you're gonna
have leaky skin, and the gut microbiome is just so
important in helping to regulate that. And also, of course,
(09:17):
you know our hormones and there's not just a gut,
you know, skin access is also a gut brain axis,
So our gut microbiome, our gut is so important in
terms of our brain health, so the way we feel
our moods, and we also know that stress can also
increase leaky gut, So make your leaky.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
Gut, yes, Because I'm just thinking, I'm like, do you
mean that your gut is like your po is like
leaking through your organs?
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Like what it's.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
Such a bad term.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
Yeah, I've got no idea how that works.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Basically, the lining of your gut has these tight junctions.
I'm just trying to think if you think about it
like a type mash, and when we digest our food properly,
certain nutrients we want them to go through that type
mesh into the blood stream where they have a whole
of you know, healthy benefits. So if our gut wall
then integrity becomes compromised and those junctions loosen and become
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like have holes in them basically and become leaky. It
means that undigested food particles, food antigens, endotoxins can pass
through the gut wall and trigger in inflammatory response, immune dysregulation,
inflammation throughout the body, and that's where we end up
getting skin sensitivities and also you know others lots of
(10:38):
other health issues.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Would you know if you had a leaky gut.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
So, because your gut regulates you know, your skin health,
your immune healthy, metabolic health. Any issues in those areas
could be a sign that you've got gut issues. There's
really obvious signs that you've got leaky gun and gut
issues from bloating in flatulence and diarrhea and constipation, you know,
(11:02):
digestive spasms. They can also of course be more obvious
signs that you've got something wrong with your gut. Your
skin is so such an amazing barometer though, because where
there is gut inflammation, there will be skin inflammation. And
so when we talk about a leaky gut. When your
gut is leaky, your skin's going to be leaky in
terms of you're going to have impaired you know, skin
barrier function.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
It's so interesting how what's happening on the inside can
just manifest strode away on our faces.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
It is, honestly, but what I find interesting sources of
the stress connection because it's about what you eat, absolutely,
and that's probably the single most important factor. But stress
plays such a big role. Like I haven't had xmerin
so chronically as a kid, and I really focused on
my gut health. And then about three years go a
really really stressful time at work and I got exma
(11:52):
all over my eyelids and I realized I thought, wow,
like this is I'd let my gut health protocol protocol
go a little bit at all this stress. I was like, Okay,
I need to do meditation and not only be looking
at herbs and foods that repair my gut, but I
really need to look making sure I'm having a mag
magnesium taking adapt to genetic herbs like my Rodiola ashkawanda
(12:14):
holy basil that helped with my stress, and that literally
within two three weeks.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Because I'm so in tune because I've had what you need.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Yeah, I really can analyze it and go, I know
it's my gut. I know it's Yes, I could really
improve my diet. I've let that go a little bit
and also take some herbs and supplements to repair the
lining of my gut and help with the leaky gut
I have. But also I know that stress is really
also impacting my leaky gut, the immune disregulation and my exma.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
You've just reminded me when I was very freshly postpartum.
I've never been more stressed in my life. I wasn't sleeping.
My entire body was covered with like it wasn't x men,
it was more like hipes and I just could not
stop itching. So even if I could get my son
to sleep, yeah, I then couldn't sleep because I was
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itching no matter what I put on my skin, no
matter what I took. Absolutely, and every doctor was like,
I can't give you anything. You have to basically heal
yourself from the inside. You have to stop stressing. Which
I'm like, well that's easier said than done, isn't it.
But it's that's just reminded me of a time where
it was just so apparent that my insides weren't happy.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Because often too, like in the old days, you'd go
and say, I've got this flaky, dry, red, blotchy skin,
and they'd give you like a you know, a pH
balanced moisturizer or something that's really you know, fragrance fringo
that should help it. It's like, yeah, that may suit it,
but it's so holistic.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
It's so we actually like helping and stopping it from continuing.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
And look, you know, I look at things like genetics.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
They play apart.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
I have a genetic predisposition that my daughter does to exma,
but I'm such a big believer in epigenetics, which is.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
I don't know what that means, so I'm like, I
can't help.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
But which is that your genetics load the gun and
environment pulls the trigger. Now, what I love about that
is that I'm really prone to xporent dermatitis, but I
can keep it under control through diet and lifestyle practices.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
And you actually have.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
One hundred and fifty times more microbial genes and you
have human genes, which is so amazing. So while you
do have these genetic predispositions, you can actually thwart it
from manifesting. Sometimes you can't, but you know, environment can
play such a big partner, especially your gut microbione in
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terms of how you know strongly it manifests or doesn't manifest.
That's so interesting, so interesting, that's empowering, right.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
Yeah, because you're actually more in control than you think
you are.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Yeah, Like when I had explore all over my eyelids,
I was going, I'm going to get on top of this.
This is great. This is a kind of a gift.
It's a signal that I need to be a power
for myself.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
For Yeah, what are some telltale signs xmeracide? What are
some other sort of telltale signs that your skin issues
might be coming from your gut rather than you know,
the wrong products or a woman going through different life stages.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Yeah, absolutely, because that's the other thing perimenopause and menopause,
because you have more information. Yeah, you have more cortisol,
less microbial diversity, more gut isshoes, skin sensitiviors can get
so much worse. Again, which is a time where you
really have to focus on self care, gut healths, you know,
reducing stress, trying to get to sleep, and it's the
hardest time, but you've got to work harder. Yeah, which is,
(15:44):
you know, very boring because it's generally the most busiest
time in your life.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
Yeah, you're like, I got time.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
I need extra caffeine and extra wine, not more sleep.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
That's exactly right.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
So I think some of the signs that your gut
health might be affecting your skin health. If you get
skin and gut flare ups simultaneously after you've eaten certain
types of food that can be giveaway, there's some sort
of connection. So there could be In terms of digestive issues,
you might gett.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Just literally started talking to you. It responded me. It
actually did it when.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Don't worry. I will help you after. I'll give you
some people ship product after just give you.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
All right, it's okay in there.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
It's amazing how you gut does talk to you as well.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Yeah, that was really fun.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Different weird noises, and so in terms of digestive issues,
it could be constipation, bloating, gastiness, nausea, deck some of
the telltale signs from a skin perspective, after you've eaten
something like if you have histamine intolerance or food intolerances.
It could be anything from itchy skin, redness, blotchiness, dryness,
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also circles under the eyes, dorm titus around the mouth
x min if you're eating certain foods with x ME
tends to come up a bit later. It can be
days even weeks where you start to see why am
I getting these raised, red, itchy patches on the inside
of my elbows, behind my knees, on my face and
my hands. And another good way to sort of look
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at it if you do start to put in some
practices that look after your gut, Like you start to
take probotics, for example, and you notice a difference in
your skin, that's also a really good sign. You know
that gut health is probably at play.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
So if someone does experience this and they suspect that
it might be linked to their gut, where should they start. Like,
let's say that they're got an awful diet. They're eating
macas several times a week. There aren't really eat many
veggies or fruits or fibers or protein, too much caffeine
am I talking about myself?
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Who knows? Where do they start?
Speaker 3 (17:54):
So?
Speaker 2 (17:54):
I think you want to try and calm your guts,
prepare the lining of your gut, and also support your
gut microbiome and microbial diversity. So that does start around,
you know, eliminating foods. It could potential triggers.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
What are the most commons, So you know.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Processed foods, refined foods that feed pathogenic back area, help
contribute to gar dysbiosis.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Hydrogenated oils.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
You know, kind of lightly when I say this, caffeine, alcohol, gluten,
dairy and dairy can be real triggers for a lot
of people. So trying to remove those potential irritants from
your guart if you have food intolerances, histamine issues, it
also can be you know, working alongside a natural path
or a nutritionist to see what they are. Because I'm
(18:42):
not a huge believer that you should take those foods
out of your diet long term. I think you do
need to take them out for pure time while you
build up your gut health. So for example, there's so
many foods that I couldn't eight years ago, but because
I built up my gut health, I can tolerate them better. Yeah,
so I can have sourdough, which is you know, a
better for like, it's still got gluten in it, but
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it's been you know, fementu So it's broken down some
of those hard to digest proteins. I can have dairy
like yogurt, and you know, yogurt in studies show like
milk so many people can be inflammatory and its associated
with things like acne. But fermented milk isn't because when
you ferment yogurt, you fermented. It breaks down the heart
to digest proteins, so it's easy on your digestive system.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
I was thinking that because they sometimes recommend that you
have yoga for the probodics, don't they Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
And then an anti inflammatory diet like calming the guts.
An anti inflammatory diet I think Mediterranean diet, and lots
of foods that help to repair the lining of the gart.
There's you know, bone broth, soups, stews, gelatin, collagen rich foods, tumorics,
anti inflammatory. There's so many great ingredients like tumoric Actually,
we've got a great product called gut Primer which helps
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to help treat leaky gut reduced spasms in the gart.
It's got ingredients like your cipri elm alavia, which is
very soothing. It's got in there also licorice, root, mushmallow root,
so all of those were the kind of soothing and
repairing herbs and supplements. Zinc is super important, Vitamin A, B, vitamins,
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anti inflammatory ds when the anti inflammatory K two is important,
Vitamin A, so lots of those kind of repairing nutrients
for your gut health. Also trying to reduce stress, sleep
better because we know all those things also compromise your
gut integrity. Then it would be looking at helping with
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your digestive health with maybe if you do have food intolerances,
looking at things like digestive enzymes that can also be
really helpful for breaking down your food. When it's not
broken down properly and it passes through the gut wall,
then it can trigger that inflammation, so that digestive enzymes
can be really helpful. Of course, pre pro and post biotics.
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Fermented foods, fiber rich foods are really important because the
fiber feeds your gut microbiomes and then they create those
short chain flatty acids that are really anti inflammatory foods
which in polyphenols really important, like green tea. This is
where you can have your chocolate with no sugar innut
cacal there is rich in polyphenols. They all support microbial diversity.
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Now in x ME, it's interesting because a reduction in
like low microbial diversity is linked with exma and also
overgrowth of pathogenic bacteria. And it's amazing the steps, Like
you know, seventy eight percent of people with roseatia have cebo,
thirty four percent of people with IBS have skin manifestations.
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Like the link is just undeniable. And then I would
look at supporting a liver because you're living in your
gut work together so well, and of course your liver
helps to eliminate toxins excess hormones. So you know, there's
beautiful herbs like milk thistle, I love dandeligne. And then
going back to the stress herbs as well, like that,
you know, you've got magnesium, which is a wonderful mineral
(22:04):
to help with stress and relaxation. You b vitamins which
support nervous system function.
Speaker 4 (22:10):
I'm so bad even remembering to take prescription medication. What
are some easy ways that you can incorporate taking supplements
and that sort of thing without being Brian Johnson and
he takes like sixty different pills in the morning and
sixty at night.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Know who I'm talking about that when I talk about
all those things, that's if you've got dyspios. That's really
looking at if you've got more significant skin issues. The
beauty Chef we have our glow powder, which is amazing.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Does that have everything? It's got so much Oh good.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
Just got your pre pro post biotics.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
It's got fermented ingredients, it's got vitamins and minerals and nutrients.
So we say glow if you're under fifty, glow ageless
if you're over fifty. And that's just one teaspoon per day.
It's good water with water in your favorite bed bridges.
It's powdery, but.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Like when you drink it, is it powdery.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
It's lovely water because it kind of just goes into
a beautiful berry drink.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
Oh, it's really nice. And then if you've got more.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Significant gut ishes and you want those repairing nutrients, we've
also got the gut Primer, which you can have with
your glow in the morning, and we've had incredible results
with people saying a difference in their gut health, their
skin health, and their wellness with those products together. But
if I was going to say about something really simple,
it would be just choose low GI and low HI foods,
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like just a Mediterranean style diet, anti inflammatory, stay away
from processed foods, and that's it. And low HI which
is my term for low human intervention foods.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Ahead that before. That's very clever.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
So like, you know, just do a lot of soups
and stews and bone bross. I've actually got a book
called The Gut Guide. It takes you through a whole
routine in different stages of repairing the gut. So it's
calming and healing the gut, weeding the gut, feeding the gut,
and then feeding the gut. But if I was going
to for general people who just want to improve their
gut health, had say low GI, low HI, whole foods,
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anti inflammatory diet, get your good fats, clean water, try
to reduce stressed yoga, walking, meditation.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
All the things that we know are we I.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Know, I mean I always laugh because I always do
scroll and I you know, the algorithm always fleaeds me
things on health and they're like, oh you know, oh
my god, pomegranates, Oh my god, kale, and so everyone
rushes and it's like and suddenly, you know, there's a
shortage of kale or celery or pomegran Yeah, and it's like, yeah,
they're all amazing, but all whole foods yea, And in
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fact you want all different types.
Speaker 4 (24:40):
How long after implementing these sorts of changes and starting
to take care of your gut, can you expect to
see a change in your skin?
Speaker 3 (24:47):
In your body?
Speaker 2 (24:48):
I think you can see changes within days. Wow, in
your skin. It takes your skin, is certain, you know,
twenty eight days for skin cells to renew. So, I
mean I have people said they see difference almost straight away.
But I think that's also cause you feel better.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Yeah, let's bloat up in a little stuff. You're happier.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
You have that spring in your step. And with this skin,
you know, within a month you should notice big changes.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Oh wow, okay that's good to know.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
I believe in balance. Yes, yes, i'd like you know,
some people are like, yeah, sixty forty. I'm like, I
like ninety ten. I love my glass of pino noir.
I'm not a coffee drinker, but I love black tea.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
And I but you know, with pino noir, I just justified.
I'm like, well, King's College in the UK, they did
a study to show that red wine.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Red wine has it's.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Polly females, it's actually quite good for your gut health.
But I think the study was like it's fifty mil
over a two week period or something, and I don't
I don't want to. I don't look at that part
of it.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Yeah, it's just like, but it's a glass here and there.
It's great.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
That's it. And also you just have to listen to
your body. It's like if you feel.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
Also good for stress free, look kind of.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
When you start to feel depleted and you're seeing in
your skin, you have to go, Okay, maybe for a
period of time, there's things I just need to let go.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
Yeah, but if you're feeling strong.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
And vibrant and healthy, then you have a little bit
more room to kind of, you know, have some of
those things that maybe aren'ts are great.
Speaker 4 (26:07):
Yes, okay, that's that's a good way to look at it,
all right, So there are things that we can all
try at home to Miniest. Before this interview, I was thinking, oh, yeah,
my gut's just fine. And the talking to you, it's
been shouting for help.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
It has been please help me. So she's here, she's.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
So I really think that we've learned a lot today,
and I think that it's something that everyone can sort
of take something away, whether or not it's affecting them
or someone that's in their family.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
Absolutely, I think you know, tell people about gut health
and pass that message on, knowing that it controls or
regulates so much if you've got immune issues, metabolic issues,
brain issues, skin issues, it's like, really, you know, the
gut is a great place to start to investigate.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
I love that, all right, Thank you so much, Calor
for joining us. Thank you so Color, Thank you so
much for sharing your expertise on gut health and how
it can affect your skin so much today, I know
everyone is going to have learnt so much.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
And also you've left us all.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
Wanting more, so we're gonna have to get you back
quite quickly. And that's all the time we have for
today because we're booted out at the studio. Otherwise I
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Every single week, I'm lucky enough to chat to all
sorts of celebs, experts, and the biggest names in beauty. Today,
we are delving into the wonderful wide world, if you will,
of gut health, more specifically understanding the gut health access
and how gut health can then affect and manifest itself
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onto your skin.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
And if you didn't realize that.
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Bad gut health could do us such keep listening because
we have the Goddess of gut health here to break
it all down for you, none other than the Beauty
Chef's Carlo Oats, who is here to talk about the
fascinating connection between gut health and skin. Now, you were
just going to absolutely love this chat so much. I
(01:22):
loved it so much that we're going to have to
get color back in for part two quite soon, because
we didn't even get to touch on her skin routine.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
And I actually also.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
Just even for selfish reasons, want to know exactly what
she takes every day because my very word, she just
glows from the inside out, not just like aesthetically, she's
also just a really great person. And we hit it
off like a house on fire and did not stop
yapping until we were booted right on out of the studios.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
You are such beautiful skin.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
But how.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
We have not stopped yapping since we met in the
lunch room and I accosted you by going.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
WHOA, I thought you were going to be a lot
older than you are.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
I don't know why, but I guess I did start
the beauty chef a long time ago.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Yeah, it's working, because there's no way you have two
kids in their twenties.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
That has blown my mind.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
Firstly, we do just need to preface this chat by
making it clear that neither of us Shock Horror are
doctors or dermatologists or you know, health professionals.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
I guess so if you.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
Are listening and you've got actual concerns with your skin,
you know, flare ups of different sorts or concerns with
your gut health. Please go talk to your GP and
make sure that you get the professional help that you need. Absolutely,
So color your own journey with your company started with
xmera as a kid, and then watching your daughter go
(02:48):
through the exact same skin struggles.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
That must have been really hard.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
I suffered really bad acne as a teen, and I
already think about how much I will struggle watching Len
if he goes through that as well, because it's just
so debilitating to your confidence.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Absolutely, so talk us through.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
That, like talk us through your own history with exma
or just sensitive skin, and then watching your daughter.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
So I had really bad excellent allergies as a child,
and then as a teenager, so I had exma all
over my arms, my legs, and it was quite embarrassing.
I was really conscious of it. And then when it
would clear up, I get these big white patches on
my skin as well. And so then it goes through
stages of being I could weep, it.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Would bleed painful, imagine.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
So painful and uncomfortable, and I'd use cordisone creams and
that definitely helped to sue that, but it didn't get
to the root cause. And then it would just come
back with a vengeance and I'd take it a partlet absolutely.
And then my mum took me to see a natural
path who I think is still practicing, Penelope Sack in Willara,
(03:54):
and she was amazing, and she did blood tests and
she found that I had certain food allergies. So she
eliminated certain foods from my diet introduced other foods. So
from a very young age, I saw the connection between
what we consume in our skin health, and that of
course kind of set me on my career path. And
also when my daughter, who's now twenty nearly twenty eight,
but when she was ten, she also suffered from allergies
(04:17):
and exma, and I knew about what I'd taken out
of my diet, like gut compromising foods, but I stumbled
across research that looked at the connection between certain types
of gut bacteria and the gut and allergies and exma.
So I decided to put my family on a gut
healing protocol, and that included elimin kids. I know, now
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you're going to be eating lots.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Of Sauer kraut nodes.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
And so I put our whole family on a gut
healing protocol, which included introducing lackt of fermented, probiotic rich
foods like your made coconut kfia, kombucha, Sauer kraut. I
didn't give him the kin chi that would be cool.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
I loved actually kis oh my son mind. He really
likes sour and salty things.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Yeah, it's got sixty cate taste.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
And I noticed such a big difference in her skin health,
her exma, but also her focus at school. I'm going, Wow,
there is something really interesting about this gut skin connection
and this gut wellness connection. And then my friends and
family were saying, what are you doing differently? Your skin's glowing,
And I thought, the other thing I'm doing differently is
eing is like to fermented, probotic rich foods. And so
(05:27):
I became like literally the local pusher for these weird
fermented foods in my kitchen that were growing.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
And everyone's like, I want a pickle io that bacteria?
You know?
Speaker 2 (05:36):
So I was bottling up all these ferments my friends
and family, and they noticed that their tummies felt better,
they were more regular, their skin was rating, they had
less skin sensitivity.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Deal with purple period, more regular.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
With poop, but also you know, your gut does also
regulate your hormones. This did start to focus on your
gut health. You really notice a difference with that as well,
and so I knew I was onto something. And then
I decided to bring out Glow in a beauty powder,
which was a by fermented probotic powder with pre pro
and post biotics in two thousand and nine, which was
the world's first. I thought it was very strange at
(06:10):
the time, and then been on a journey in this
sort of really passionate and unwavering mission to really educate
people about the importance of gut health for skin health
and wellbeing.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
I cannot believe it was two thousand and nine. Wow, yes,
I know, look how far you've come.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
It's amazing and also so exciting that it's a thing like,
you know, really science has caught up with nature and
also what natural paths have said for years that you know,
good health begins in your gut and there's so many
studies now that show it. And you know, you talk
to most doctors and integrative practitioners and they are like,
you know, the root cause of so many of your
issues because your gut regulates your immune metabolic, brain, everything health,
(06:49):
hormonal health. You've really got to start to look at
the gut, especially when you have you know, skin issues.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Yeah, Len actually had a lot of infections as a
baby and allergies and was on antibiotics, and so many
people then will recommend, like get him on a probodic
and prebodic because it's so important.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
It's so important.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
But can you explain to someone that's like at home
and has no idea what a microbiome is?
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Yes, how does it work, what is it? Where is it?
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Like, it's interesting because people we talk about gut health,
but what really influences your gut health more than anything
is your gut microbiome, which is basically a mini ecosystem
of tens of trillions of microorganisms that live in your
gut and that you are host to. And having a
good relationship with your gut microbiome is probably the most
(07:37):
important relationship that you can ever have, because your gut
microbiome regulates your gut health, your metabolic health, your brain health,
your immune health, your skin health, everything, and a healthy
gut microbiome also helps to keep your gut health or
your gut lining nice and strong to prevent leaky gut
because when you have leaky gut that causes inflammation, you
(08:00):
have information in your body inflammation and your skin skin sensitivities.
So looking after our gut microbiome is super important. And
you know the things that we can do to really
heal that is really focus on a healthy diet lifestyle.
We know that, you know, stress, lack of sleep really
compromises our ability to maintain a healthy gut microbiome. We
know that our gut microbome loves fiber, so eating your
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diet rich in fiber, like try and aim for thirty
different types of plant based foods.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
A week for some reason, you're about to say a
day and I was about to have an actual heart attack.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
I'm struggle enough.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
With the whole I know. I even say feel bad
saying thirty a week because it's a lot. But that's
like herbs, nuts, legumes, you know, your leafy greens. Because
what happens when you consume fiber rich foods your gut
microbiome they feed on it and they ferment it and
they create these really important anti inflammatory compounds called short
(08:54):
chain fatty acids, which are so important for our skin health.
Our gut health or immune health, metabolic health, brain health,
and in terms of skin sensitivity as well. We know
that where there's gut inflammation, there's going to be skin inflammation,
imped skin barriers. When you've got leak gut, you're gonna
have leaky skin, and the gut microbiome is just so
important in helping to regulate that. And also, of course,
(09:17):
you know our hormones and there's not just a gut,
you know, skin access is also a gut brain axis,
So our gut microbiome, our gut is so important in
terms of our brain health, so the way we feel
our moods, and we also know that stress can also
increase leaky gut, So make your leaky.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
Gut, yes, Because I'm just thinking, I'm like, do you
mean that your gut is like your po is like
leaking through your organs?
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Like what it's.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
Such a bad term.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
Yeah, I've got no idea how that works.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Basically, the lining of your gut has these tight junctions.
I'm just trying to think if you think about it
like a type mash, and when we digest our food properly,
certain nutrients we want them to go through that type
mesh into the blood stream where they have a whole
of you know, healthy benefits. So if our gut wall
then integrity becomes compromised and those junctions loosen and become
(10:13):
like have holes in them basically and become leaky. It
means that undigested food particles, food antigens, endotoxins can pass
through the gut wall and trigger in inflammatory response, immune dysregulation,
inflammation throughout the body, and that's where we end up
getting skin sensitivities and also you know others lots of
(10:38):
other health issues.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Would you know if you had a leaky gut.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
So, because your gut regulates you know, your skin health,
your immune healthy, metabolic health. Any issues in those areas
could be a sign that you've got gut issues. There's
really obvious signs that you've got leaky gun and gut
issues from bloating in flatulence and diarrhea and constipation, you know,
(11:02):
digestive spasms. They can also of course be more obvious
signs that you've got something wrong with your gut. Your
skin is so such an amazing barometer though, because where
there is gut inflammation, there will be skin inflammation. And
so when we talk about a leaky gut. When your
gut is leaky, your skin's going to be leaky in
terms of you're going to have impaired you know, skin
barrier function.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
It's so interesting how what's happening on the inside can
just manifest strode away on our faces.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
It is, honestly, but what I find interesting sources of
the stress connection because it's about what you eat, absolutely,
and that's probably the single most important factor. But stress
plays such a big role. Like I haven't had xmerin
so chronically as a kid, and I really focused on
my gut health. And then about three years go a
really really stressful time at work and I got exma
(11:52):
all over my eyelids and I realized I thought, wow,
like this is I'd let my gut health protocol protocol
go a little bit at all this stress. I was like, Okay,
I need to do meditation and not only be looking
at herbs and foods that repair my gut, but I
really need to look making sure I'm having a mag
magnesium taking adapt to genetic herbs like my Rodiola ashkawanda
(12:14):
holy basil that helped with my stress, and that literally
within two three weeks.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Because I'm so in tune because I've had what you need.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Yeah, I really can analyze it and go, I know
it's my gut. I know it's Yes, I could really
improve my diet. I've let that go a little bit
and also take some herbs and supplements to repair the
lining of my gut and help with the leaky gut
I have. But also I know that stress is really
also impacting my leaky gut, the immune disregulation and my exma.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
You've just reminded me when I was very freshly postpartum.
I've never been more stressed in my life. I wasn't sleeping.
My entire body was covered with like it wasn't x men,
it was more like hipes and I just could not
stop itching. So even if I could get my son
to sleep, yeah, I then couldn't sleep because I was
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itching no matter what I put on my skin, no
matter what I took. Absolutely, and every doctor was like,
I can't give you anything. You have to basically heal
yourself from the inside. You have to stop stressing. Which
I'm like, well that's easier said than done, isn't it.
But it's that's just reminded me of a time where
it was just so apparent that my insides weren't happy.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Because often too, like in the old days, you'd go
and say, I've got this flaky, dry, red, blotchy skin,
and they'd give you like a you know, a pH
balanced moisturizer or something that's really you know, fragrance fringo
that should help it. It's like, yeah, that may suit it,
but it's so holistic.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
It's so we actually like helping and stopping it from continuing.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
And look, you know, I look at things like genetics.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
They play apart.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
I have a genetic predisposition that my daughter does to exma,
but I'm such a big believer in epigenetics, which is.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
I don't know what that means, so I'm like, I
can't help.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
But which is that your genetics load the gun and
environment pulls the trigger. Now, what I love about that
is that I'm really prone to xporent dermatitis, but I
can keep it under control through diet and lifestyle practices.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
And you actually have.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
One hundred and fifty times more microbial genes and you
have human genes, which is so amazing. So while you
do have these genetic predispositions, you can actually thwart it
from manifesting. Sometimes you can't, but you know, environment can
play such a big partner, especially your gut microbione in
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terms of how you know strongly it manifests or doesn't manifest.
That's so interesting, so interesting, that's empowering, right.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
Yeah, because you're actually more in control than you think
you are.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Yeah, Like when I had explore all over my eyelids,
I was going, I'm going to get on top of this.
This is great. This is a kind of a gift.
It's a signal that I need to be a power
for myself.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
For Yeah, what are some telltale signs xmeracide? What are
some other sort of telltale signs that your skin issues
might be coming from your gut rather than you know,
the wrong products or a woman going through different life stages.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Yeah, absolutely, because that's the other thing perimenopause and menopause,
because you have more information. Yeah, you have more cortisol,
less microbial diversity, more gut isshoes, skin sensitiviors can get
so much worse. Again, which is a time where you
really have to focus on self care, gut healths, you know,
reducing stress, trying to get to sleep, and it's the
hardest time, but you've got to work harder. Yeah, which is,
(15:44):
you know, very boring because it's generally the most busiest
time in your life.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
Yeah, you're like, I got time.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
I need extra caffeine and extra wine, not more sleep.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
That's exactly right.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
So I think some of the signs that your gut
health might be affecting your skin health. If you get
skin and gut flare ups simultaneously after you've eaten certain
types of food that can be giveaway, there's some sort
of connection. So there could be In terms of digestive issues,
you might gett.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Just literally started talking to you. It responded me. It
actually did it when.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Don't worry. I will help you after. I'll give you
some people ship product after just give you.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
All right, it's okay in there.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
It's amazing how you gut does talk to you as well.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Yeah, that was really fun.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Different weird noises, and so in terms of digestive issues,
it could be constipation, bloating, gastiness, nausea, deck some of
the telltale signs from a skin perspective, after you've eaten
something like if you have histamine intolerance or food intolerances.
It could be anything from itchy skin, redness, blotchiness, dryness,
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also circles under the eyes, dorm titus around the mouth
x min if you're eating certain foods with x ME
tends to come up a bit later. It can be
days even weeks where you start to see why am
I getting these raised, red, itchy patches on the inside
of my elbows, behind my knees, on my face and
my hands. And another good way to sort of look
(17:18):
at it if you do start to put in some
practices that look after your gut, Like you start to
take probotics, for example, and you notice a difference in
your skin, that's also a really good sign. You know
that gut health is probably at play.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
So if someone does experience this and they suspect that
it might be linked to their gut, where should they start. Like,
let's say that they're got an awful diet. They're eating
macas several times a week. There aren't really eat many
veggies or fruits or fibers or protein, too much caffeine
am I talking about myself?
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Who knows? Where do they start?
Speaker 3 (17:54):
So?
Speaker 2 (17:54):
I think you want to try and calm your guts,
prepare the lining of your gut, and also support your
gut microbiome and microbial diversity. So that does start around,
you know, eliminating foods. It could potential triggers.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
What are the most commons, So you know.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Processed foods, refined foods that feed pathogenic back area, help
contribute to gar dysbiosis.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Hydrogenated oils.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
You know, kind of lightly when I say this, caffeine, alcohol, gluten,
dairy and dairy can be real triggers for a lot
of people. So trying to remove those potential irritants from
your guart if you have food intolerances, histamine issues, it
also can be you know, working alongside a natural path
or a nutritionist to see what they are. Because I'm
(18:42):
not a huge believer that you should take those foods
out of your diet long term. I think you do
need to take them out for pure time while you
build up your gut health. So for example, there's so
many foods that I couldn't eight years ago, but because
I built up my gut health, I can tolerate them better. Yeah,
so I can have sourdough, which is you know, a
better for like, it's still got gluten in it, but
(19:03):
it's been you know, fementu So it's broken down some
of those hard to digest proteins. I can have dairy
like yogurt, and you know, yogurt in studies show like
milk so many people can be inflammatory and its associated
with things like acne. But fermented milk isn't because when
you ferment yogurt, you fermented. It breaks down the heart
to digest proteins, so it's easy on your digestive system.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
I was thinking that because they sometimes recommend that you
have yoga for the probodics, don't they Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
And then an anti inflammatory diet like calming the guts.
An anti inflammatory diet I think Mediterranean diet, and lots
of foods that help to repair the lining of the gart.
There's you know, bone broth, soups, stews, gelatin, collagen rich foods, tumorics,
anti inflammatory. There's so many great ingredients like tumoric Actually,
we've got a great product called gut Primer which helps
(19:54):
to help treat leaky gut reduced spasms in the gart.
It's got ingredients like your cipri elm alavia, which is
very soothing. It's got in there also licorice, root, mushmallow root,
so all of those were the kind of soothing and
repairing herbs and supplements. Zinc is super important, Vitamin A, B, vitamins,
(20:16):
anti inflammatory ds when the anti inflammatory K two is important,
Vitamin A, so lots of those kind of repairing nutrients
for your gut health. Also trying to reduce stress, sleep
better because we know all those things also compromise your
gut integrity. Then it would be looking at helping with
(20:36):
your digestive health with maybe if you do have food intolerances,
looking at things like digestive enzymes that can also be
really helpful for breaking down your food. When it's not
broken down properly and it passes through the gut wall,
then it can trigger that inflammation, so that digestive enzymes
can be really helpful. Of course, pre pro and post biotics.
(20:57):
Fermented foods, fiber rich foods are really important because the
fiber feeds your gut microbiomes and then they create those
short chain flatty acids that are really anti inflammatory foods
which in polyphenols really important, like green tea. This is
where you can have your chocolate with no sugar innut
cacal there is rich in polyphenols. They all support microbial diversity.
(21:20):
Now in x ME, it's interesting because a reduction in
like low microbial diversity is linked with exma and also
overgrowth of pathogenic bacteria. And it's amazing the steps, Like
you know, seventy eight percent of people with roseatia have cebo,
thirty four percent of people with IBS have skin manifestations.
(21:42):
Like the link is just undeniable. And then I would
look at supporting a liver because you're living in your
gut work together so well, and of course your liver
helps to eliminate toxins excess hormones. So you know, there's
beautiful herbs like milk thistle, I love dandeligne. And then
going back to the stress herbs as well, like that,
you know, you've got magnesium, which is a wonderful mineral
(22:04):
to help with stress and relaxation. You b vitamins which
support nervous system function.
Speaker 4 (22:10):
I'm so bad even remembering to take prescription medication. What
are some easy ways that you can incorporate taking supplements
and that sort of thing without being Brian Johnson and
he takes like sixty different pills in the morning and
sixty at night.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Know who I'm talking about that when I talk about
all those things, that's if you've got dyspios. That's really
looking at if you've got more significant skin issues. The
beauty Chef we have our glow powder, which is amazing.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Does that have everything? It's got so much Oh good.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
Just got your pre pro post biotics.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
It's got fermented ingredients, it's got vitamins and minerals and nutrients.
So we say glow if you're under fifty, glow ageless
if you're over fifty. And that's just one teaspoon per day.
It's good water with water in your favorite bed bridges.
It's powdery, but.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Like when you drink it, is it powdery.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
It's lovely water because it kind of just goes into
a beautiful berry drink.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
Oh, it's really nice. And then if you've got more.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Significant gut ishes and you want those repairing nutrients, we've
also got the gut Primer, which you can have with
your glow in the morning, and we've had incredible results
with people saying a difference in their gut health, their
skin health, and their wellness with those products together. But
if I was going to say about something really simple,
it would be just choose low GI and low HI foods,
(23:24):
like just a Mediterranean style diet, anti inflammatory, stay away
from processed foods, and that's it. And low HI which
is my term for low human intervention foods.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Ahead that before. That's very clever.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
So like, you know, just do a lot of soups
and stews and bone bross. I've actually got a book
called The Gut Guide. It takes you through a whole
routine in different stages of repairing the gut. So it's
calming and healing the gut, weeding the gut, feeding the gut,
and then feeding the gut. But if I was going
to for general people who just want to improve their
gut health, had say low GI, low HI, whole foods,
(24:01):
anti inflammatory diet, get your good fats, clean water, try
to reduce stressed yoga, walking, meditation.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
All the things that we know are we I.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Know, I mean I always laugh because I always do
scroll and I you know, the algorithm always fleaeds me
things on health and they're like, oh you know, oh
my god, pomegranates, Oh my god, kale, and so everyone
rushes and it's like and suddenly, you know, there's a
shortage of kale or celery or pomegran Yeah, and it's like, yeah,
they're all amazing, but all whole foods yea, And in
(24:33):
fact you want all different types.
Speaker 4 (24:40):
How long after implementing these sorts of changes and starting
to take care of your gut, can you expect to
see a change in your skin?
Speaker 3 (24:47):
In your body?
Speaker 2 (24:48):
I think you can see changes within days. Wow, in
your skin. It takes your skin, is certain, you know,
twenty eight days for skin cells to renew. So, I
mean I have people said they see difference almost straight away.
But I think that's also cause you feel better.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Yeah, let's bloat up in a little stuff. You're happier.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
You have that spring in your step. And with this skin,
you know, within a month you should notice big changes.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Oh wow, okay that's good to know.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
I believe in balance. Yes, yes, i'd like you know,
some people are like, yeah, sixty forty. I'm like, I
like ninety ten. I love my glass of pino noir.
I'm not a coffee drinker, but I love black tea.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
And I but you know, with pino noir, I just justified.
I'm like, well, King's College in the UK, they did
a study to show that red wine.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Red wine has it's.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Polly females, it's actually quite good for your gut health.
But I think the study was like it's fifty mil
over a two week period or something, and I don't
I don't want to. I don't look at that part
of it.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Yeah, it's just like, but it's a glass here and there.
It's great.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
That's it. And also you just have to listen to
your body. It's like if you feel.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
Also good for stress free, look kind of.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
When you start to feel depleted and you're seeing in
your skin, you have to go, Okay, maybe for a
period of time, there's things I just need to let go.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
Yeah, but if you're feeling strong.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
And vibrant and healthy, then you have a little bit
more room to kind of, you know, have some of
those things that maybe aren'ts are great.
Speaker 4 (26:07):
Yes, okay, that's that's a good way to look at it,
all right, So there are things that we can all
try at home to Miniest. Before this interview, I was thinking, oh, yeah,
my gut's just fine. And the talking to you, it's
been shouting for help.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
It has been please help me. So she's here, she's.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
So I really think that we've learned a lot today,
and I think that it's something that everyone can sort
of take something away, whether or not it's affecting them
or someone that's in their family.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
Absolutely, I think you know, tell people about gut health
and pass that message on, knowing that it controls or
regulates so much if you've got immune issues, metabolic issues,
brain issues, skin issues, it's like, really, you know, the
gut is a great place to start to investigate.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
I love that, all right, Thank you so much, Calor
for joining us. Thank you so Color, Thank you so
much for sharing your expertise on gut health and how
it can affect your skin so much today, I know
everyone is going to have learnt so much.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
And also you've left us all.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
Wanting more, so we're gonna have to get you back
quite quickly. And that's all the time we have for
today because we're booted out at the studio. Otherwise I
would have just kept having a yup and a yarn.
Thank you so much for listening to this episode, and
please go and check us out on Instagram at TikTok.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Come look at our YouTube channel.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
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