August 10, 2025 • 19 mins
Time to decode the confusing world of skincare acids! Leigh & Kelly are breaking down azelaic acid - the ingredient that's suddenly everywhere and explaining why it's perfect for rosacea sufferers who can't handle retinol.
Then they're tackling the dreaded neck situation! How do you deal with lines and crepey skin that seems to appear overnight? They're sharing why your regular face retinol might be too harsh for this delicate area, plus revealing the affordable and luxury options that actually work. Spoiler: you need to treat your neck like a separate skincare routine, not just an afterthought!
EVERYTHING MENTIONED:
Naturium Azelaic Topical Acid 10% $39.95
Azclear Action Medicated Lotion 25g $21.95
Paula's Choice 10% Azelaic Acid Booster $62.00
La Roche Posay Effaclar A.Z. Gel Cream 40ml $45.99
HelloSkin Azelaic Acid 20% w/w Serum $59.99
Dr Naomi Hit The Dec $149.00
RoC Derm Correxion Contour Cream 50ml $49.99
No7 Restore & Renew FACE & NECK $59.99
Skin Ceuticals Tripeptide-R Retinol Neck Repair Cream $249.00
bareMinerals Ageless Phyto-Retinol Neck Cream 50g Ageless $118
Fresh Black Tea Firming Corset Cream $155
Non-Surgical Medical Aesthetic Skin Tightening Treatments
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
You're listening to Amma Mia podcast. Mamma Mia acknowledges the
traditional owners of land and waters that this podcast is
recorded on Makeup is My Therapy. I'm obsessed and I
don't even feel guilty about it. Hello, and welcome to
(00:32):
you Beauty the podcast for Your Face. I'm Lee Campbell,
I'm Kelly mccarrot, and you've got some news for me.
It came out a few weeks ago now, but I
just said to you off air, did you see it?
But algorithm? And I was like the Skim's beauty product launch.
It is one of those sort of you know how
you can get the KABD and J beauty sheet masks
that have the fluid like get liquid and they snatch
(00:54):
your jaw. Yeah, so she's made this full like head
thing that snatches your jaw. The outrage has been outrageous,
which I do agree with because it's like, can we
even just relax? But also she's definitely not the first
person to do it. I've been around for so long. No, yeah,
she's copying so much criticism because like it's like impossible
(01:14):
beauty standards. You know, her whole brand is like sucking
in and perking up and did it, which I agree,
But then I also just think because she's the most
famous person to do it and it's her. Yeah, I
completely agree with you, Like I don't think she should
be getting flack when so many other brands do this
also they were. I know, I looked back in my
camera roll and I had an old one. I'll have
to find what it was. I mean, I don't have
(01:34):
it anymore. It was a single year sheet mask thing,
but it went over your face and up behind your ears,
and you were meant to wear it for an hour
and it's too uncomfortable. I mean I wore it for
an hour before an event. I wouldn't do it all
the time, but before an advent or a photo or
some sort of fancy thing. They actually do definitely work.
But she fine convent it. She invented, So why are
we shouting at her? I don't know. Anyway, that's a
little bit of beauty news. But what are we doing today?
(01:57):
I couldn't help, but Wonder asked me anything. You ask
plenty questions. Well we are answering your questions. So if
you do have a question, polase let us know. You
can dm us as our lovely Olivia has today, Well,
I'll read what Olibya's. Oh yes, please, lovelyly, Is it
okay to send you a question for the Beauty podcast?
Of course. I'm starting to see products with azaelic acid,
(02:20):
but I'm not sure what it does. Where do I
fit it into my routine? Is it like an exfoliating acid,
or as you said, some serums that say acid are
actually hydrating. All of the acids confuse me and I
don't want to strip my skin. Such a good question,
and you're right to be cautious before you add it
first up. This has just reminded me that so many
(02:42):
years ago I did a Thursday episode Deep Dive like
the A to Z of acids just acids, not ingredients. Acids.
Oh yeah, it was like and I didn't touch on
some of the I think I did make a couple
of jokes. I'm sure how many of them made it
into the final cut, but god, and I'm so silly.
(03:02):
I just thought, oh, yeah, because this is a good
one for Z. But it starts with but you do
Z acid? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, well let's explain
asalic acid for Olivia and the ubis because there's confusion
around it. And it feels quite underground. Are quite new,
and that's for a reason. So up until about this
time last year, late well mid to late twenty twenty four,
(03:22):
the TGO changed its rules and restrictions around the use
of marketing and how you could buy asalic acid. So
at a certain percentage it was considered a drug, you know,
a medicine, so it was behind the counter or prescription.
But then they change that. Still there's variations around the percentage,
but now brands that you can just walk in and
pick up can formulate with it. So it feels like, oh,
(03:45):
I don't know this, but it's because it was more
restricted before. So Olivia is asking, is it exfoliating mildly?
Let me tell you about it, because you might not
need it, my friend, Olivia. So it's a pretty great ingredient.
It helps with rhisasia, it helps with acne or breakouts,
and it helps with hyperpigmentation. So it's a bit of
(04:05):
an all rounder, kind of like we hear about our
retinal little bit like nice cinamide sort of. I would
say it's better for someone with rose a sha than retinol.
Not always, oh yes, just because like a lot of
my Roseesia. Girls love this ingredient because it's gentle enough,
like retinol is quite intense. Oh yeah, Rose, she is
(04:27):
obviously very food seventy accents exactly. Wel that's it, and
so I mean it also depends on the strength you get,
same with retinol. But it's antibacterial and anti inflammatory, which
is why it's also great for breakout. And because it
is an acid, like a proper acid, not a hyaluronic acid,
which they should just change that name. It is gently exfoliating,
so it can fade the marks you might get after
(04:50):
a breakout, you know, hyperpigmentation, post blemish marks. It can
reduce breakouts, which we love. And I've been getting quite
a few verslated. So oh my god, why mercury are
you in retrograde? Why is it coming out on our skin?
I think it's like, well, one of those girls needs
to taste small acne products. It's safer sensitive skin. Again,
you'll err on the side of caution. And it can
(05:11):
be used during pregnancy, which is great because a lot
of you know, things that are for pigmentation or you know,
anything that feels like it's doing anything you feel like
you can't use so you can use it daily, but
start slow. You can even kind of use it morning
and night depending on the product, but it starts slow
just because it is an active ingredient. Before I tell
you some products, you need to assess the rest of
(05:31):
your routine because if you know this is quite an
active product, if you're already using a retinol, a vitamin
c acca, you don't need it. No, you probably don't
need it, but it might be worthwhile assessing your whole
routine and it could replace something else if it's better
for you. So look at your routine as a whole.
Check out what's active. Check out what they're doing, because
you don't want to over do it. Some brands our
(05:53):
beautiful favorite to one of our favorite products, You and
I kellical brands Naturia. They have two azaleic acid products
that's made in the US, so I think they have
always had, you know, more lax restrictions there, so they
brought it here. As Clear is really popular. It's just
a pharmacy brand, quite not sexy packaging. It's a Z
clear that's more for you kind of hardcore breakouts. Like
(06:16):
I put that in the acne category where you would
go to like that medical acne area in the pharmacy.
Paula's choice of course Laroche Paz and a brand I
hadn't heard of, but it's got amazing review. Its Hello Skin,
They've got a really good one. So if you do
Google or go and have a look, you'll find that
most azalig acid products are marketed to breakouts. But have
a look around. I feel like now, I mean that
(06:37):
was a year ago that the TGA lifted the restrictions.
It's definitely more, but I think more and more brands
are like, oh okay, we can use that now in
a better percentage, or we can talk about that now.
So I think we'll see more and more of it.
I did not have any in my collection. I want
to give it a go obviously. Put for me, I
mean I do get the odd spot, but for me
the pigmentation situation and I'm not sensitive, but I'm sensor
(07:00):
tized to my skin from all the chopping and change. Yeah,
so I'm going to hunt one out and report back. Yeah,
report back, because I went through my bathroom and I
was like, I've got to have one somewhere. Noe. Yeah,
So long story short, Olivia, check out what you're doing.
If you've got breakouts, give it a go. If you're
already using a retinol that you laugh, I wouldn't switch,
but what that guy is. Kaz has also sent to
(07:26):
us a DM. Hello, I love the pod, especially Monday apps. Okay,
my question is about lines and creepy skin on the neck.
I mean my early fifties and really noticing this. I've
tried the boost Lab Next serum and now the Trinny
Elevator cream with only very minor results. What are your
suggestions any other serums or skin treatments I could try?
(07:48):
Thank you so much, Kaz Cauz. I feel you early fifties.
I'm forty three and I swear well not overnight, but
and I've always done my netcare. You've got a beautiful
net oh, Caz. Yes, okay, so listen, we can only
do so much topically, and whatever we're going to do,
we have to do consistently and be paid. So the
(08:11):
number one recommended thing for this area is retinal. But
the skin from your neck, like you'd under your chin
down to heat, is thinner and much more sensitive to
the skin on your face minus the skin under your eyes,
which is pretty much similar to this skin. So don't
go whacking your prescription retinal or your strong retinal straight
down here. You taught me that, and that blew my mind.
I don't know why I didn't know that, but I
(08:32):
just always assumed. I not, it makes sense, but I
always assumed anything that wasn't your face with the color robust, no,
because this bit. But then you go to your arms
and everywhere else, and that's thicker and more resilient. So
this area is just pretty skin. Guy, like, why do
we come out with different skin. I'm gonna recommend some
specific neck like chin to nipple products, but whatever you do,
(08:54):
if you do have a retinol that you like, you
could sandwich it, or you could just go by an
affordable face retinal that's at a lower percentage hydration. So
I would do retinol, maybe build up to most nights,
but then hydration. I would almost like, miss, well, this
is what I've been doing. If anyone's gonna look at
an boats different when I'm not on camera, I missed,
And then I'll do a hydrating serum and then a
(09:14):
lightweight moisturiza like I give my neck almost like a
treatment white my face. It's not just like one swaite
swipe swape. I've got some expensive ones and some affordable
ones because we love a spend diesel. Everything in the
show notes though, so oh yes, everything's in the show notes. Doctor,
as always Dr Naomi hit the deck because it's decolatile. Ah,
I think that's about one hundred and fifty dollars. Then sorry,
I've used. It's very good. It's quite strong build up.
(09:36):
Just because it's quite strong doesn't mean you should expect
results immediately. This is going to take three to six months.
So with all of these, I mean that an affordable one.
Now Rock Skincare has a really great neck and like
decolotage cream, really beautiful. That's forty two ninety nine. You
can get that wherever you get Rock skincare are you know,
the big er, little big c not like it's a
(09:59):
chemist brand, but not a chemist brand. Yeah, what is it? Really? Wow?
That was that made sense? It's actually very not very
under the radar. But I'm always impressed with the stuff
that I I've never tried a dud you same, they're
really good. Number seven also has one. When I was
researching this yesterday, I ordered it from Priceline four price,
it's fifty nine to ninety nine. I was reading a
(10:21):
whole bunch of reviews from around the world and it
sounded great, So it's on its way to me because
I was like, Gus, yes, exorbitantly expensive is a skin
Suitical's neck cream two hundred and forty nine dollars. Oh
my goodness, I know, I mean amazing reviews. I'm not
spend two hundred fifty dollars on my neck like I care,
but not as much as my face. And I'm already
(10:41):
in love with so many of their serums. I'm like, guys,
Bare Minerals has one that I've not tried it that
mainly did make up. I know. No, they do some
really good skincare. This is one hundred and eighteen and
Fresh Skincare also has one one hundred and fifty five dollars,
So if you want to find a specific product, it's
definitely out there. If it were me, I would probably
just go to your number seven you're ola and buy
(11:02):
a retino like I get a specific retinal for your neck,
or you know, the Elizabeth Ardan retnols that are really hydrating,
this one that you love, I would almost go Okay,
you're my neck retinal. And then you could also like
have a separate routine for your neck as you're building
that up. Specifically, because I'm assuming kas you know, you're
into skincare and you're in your fifties, your face might
(11:23):
be more used to anti aging products than your neck.
So almost go, okay, face tonight, this is your routine,
and the next this is your routine, and like catch
it up. Yeah, you know what I mean. Sunscreen because
sunscreen and always from your well, your forehead to your nipples,
because what the sun exposure does is degrade the college
(11:44):
and the lastin and that's why it's getting whobbuy if
it's really bothering you and you wanted to do a treatment, yes,
there's lots of options. Are if skin tightening, so radio
frequency hyphu. I've done high phoo. That's that really weird one.
It tightens, but i'd also kind of got rid of
that for me. They explained what that is to anyone
past Sorry her turkey, no her toad, toad or turkey gobble. Yes,
(12:10):
toads have the ball. Yeah they do too. Poor turkeys.
They're always the one. They're the ones that get what
I always think of a toad. Okay, yeah, I mean
I had two sessions, I think, and it was quite
not quite painful. It was like it felt like electric anyway, Okay,
it was fine, intense pulse lights of ipl there's certain
ones that can do that, lasers or there's a treatment
called ultraforma that is specifically about skin tighting. You're gonna
(12:32):
need a few sessions of those. It's gonna be expensive.
If I were you, I'd go find yourself a net
cream or a retinol that's right, and then I'd put
it in your diary, like I'm starting this now, and
then in three months within your diary house monet going,
and then in six months because it's not an overnight fix,
but it's a commitment, but it can be done. I mean,
look at our glorious faces. Just give you a cop
(12:53):
the that's it. So hopefully that helps KZ. But I
feel your sister, I'm just gonna keep wearing turtlenecks until
I've sorted mine out, she says, wearing a deep, deep plunge. Yeah,
but you have like whatever you've done on your mind.
So what I do is I wake up dry and revolting,
and I do my makeup, but then I just skin
flood my whole neck down to my nips, and then
(13:16):
I mix my foundation with my last step of my
body cream because that's a lot of pigmentation. Remember that
day that I forgot that I'd put a little bit
of makeup on and you were like, not a chance.
Is your chest skin that beautiful? You must have someone
And then I was like, oh, yeah, yeah, I probably would.
I have to do all the time. Yes, I would
put like even just a little bit of concealer, mixing
with moisturize. Yeah, without thinking that I've done my foundation.
(13:37):
Bronze is darker than my body, particularly in the middle
of winter, so it would be like I was wearing
a white mask. Yeah, exactly. All right, Kel, I've done
a lot of talking beauty bite. Let's beauty. Well, the
funny thing is with the beauty bite, I want us
to discuss it together because we need to talk about
(13:59):
the golden ol facial. Have you had one? What in
the magic So a little bit of a backstory, A
couple of well probably like six weeks ago, you had
this facial. It was called the Golden Our facial. It
was that sensation boutique in bron Tea, Sydney, but it's vegan,
so they have it at other clinics around Australia. You
(14:20):
just have to look on the website, which we will
link in the show notes. And Lee doesn't get that
many facials. You don't have time, you don't like to
lie still, and you were like, it was one of
the best facials I've ever had, so obviously then I
needed to go and get it because I love a facial. Fomo.
Oh do you really love a facial? Do you love
the results or the experience? Ah? I hate both. I
(14:42):
just don't. I just get so anxious about the time.
I like results. The way thing is, I kept thinking
about you because when you had no chop on and
you're being massage. The thing about a good skin therapist
is that they will tailor it to you. Yes. And
it was so funny because I just thought, there is
no way that Lee got this exact facial because mine
(15:04):
went for almost two hours. Mine was ninety minutes. I think, oh,
I can't remember, I feel remember I fell asleep. He
did because like that, And I said, did I fall asleep?
And she was like, oh, yeah, okay, maybe we did
get the exact same one because I thought there's no
way that Lee would actually sit here this on. But
if you fell asleep, that makes sense. Yeah, mine was phenomenal.
So it's a Vanessa Megan customized. They use gold in
(15:25):
one of like they literally use we need to put
a photo in here, They literally put It's very unsexy
while they're doing it because they're just kind of like
plastering gold onto your face. Okay, No, I didn't have that,
like you had sheets of gold. Yeah, I must have
been asleep because that was you definitely would have had
that because that's part of the gold in our facial
(15:46):
But I think that one of the how CCTV is
that in our industry, Lee and I both sometimes can
get a little bit cynical, of not cynical, but a
little bit like, oh about natural products or purely natural.
I don't think it's cynical. I think that that we've
tried so many treatments and products that there's plenty we
(16:09):
don't talk that don't work. Like treatments. We have our
products we try, so to be impressed is pretty impressive exactly.
So a lot of the time it takes like hardcore science.
So really, yea, yeah, yeah, yes, but oh my goodness,
these Vanessa Megan products and the skill of the therapist.
It was just outstanding and it was easy do super
(16:30):
firm facial. Yeah on you, because that's what I think,
that's what put me to sleep. It was wonder if
I had gold on my face. It was just outstanding
and it's such a gold. Gold is so beautiful gift
to either yourself or for someone else or just the products. Honestly,
I've Vanessa Megan's always been in my radar, but on
and off and then it's way back on now because
I just loved it anyway, So I was just so impressed.
(16:50):
So definitely have a look if you're after a facial
that feels good but also does something, and it can totally.
We always say you can't just get a one off
facial because there's no point. You may as well invest
in a good serm. You actually could, well, you know
what you could, because I don't sleep at night. The
fact that I fell asleep during the day or someone
was touching me very responsive NAP two hundred and sixty
five regardless, but obviously we're both Sydney bas We'll link
(17:12):
in the show notes and you can have a look
around the country if you want to have to try it. Well,
mine's way less sexy. Oh there's no gold, no topless massage. No,
but it involves shoes and deodorant and nothing to do
with smell. So winter's almost over. I hate winter shoes.
You hate winter shoes. They're so hard to like. I
get that ham high put a sock on with a
heel because my feet are cold. All you're the cool
(17:34):
girls do. But then it's just like the ham and
the shoe and the practice anyway. Yeah, my hem is wet.
Yeah right, even though I'm wearing a heel. But even
for me, it just is hard to make the outfit
look good. So I've still got some flats that I've purchased,
been going to break in, trying to break in, like
you know how breaking in a flat is just so
annoying anyway, Like it's flat. You have to like a
loafer or a balance, you know, they're just too awful.
(17:55):
Yeah right, too offul you you spend two hundred dollars
on good quality leather, used to have to break it in?
Absolutely not. Well I've got to hack for you, my friend,
So then I'm always the one going I could do
this and then halfway through the day im running to
seven eleven to fine blister pads and blah blah blah.
Guess what the Internet told me to do and it works.
Put the shoe on obviously before you get to blister stage,
but where it's rubbing, get deodorant ideally not spray on obviously,
(18:15):
but ideally like the creamy one, so you don't want
to do this on your Swede shoes. You rub deodorant
on the bit where it rubs, then put your shoe on. Gone,
the rub is gone. It acts like lubrication protection. Wow.
I would think that it would rub more and then
you'd get like, I think that's obviously why you can't
use the spray because it's like powder. Yeah, but when
you use those creamy ones, yeah, it acts like a
(18:36):
buffer and just kind of like, I don't know, it
warms it up anyway, like it doesn't rub for the
rest of the day. And I swear it's made my
shoes break into Oh my goodness, I love that so much.
You find another hack for deodorant, considering I love it
on my lips, like not my lips, like my sweating.
It's been geodorizing with a urricks owner or body under
the boobies. Wow, so it works. So I mean, I
(18:57):
know winter's nelly over, but we all like to wear
a clothin shoe if you've got it, even a heel
that rubs. Just don't do it on Swede because you
might get a bit of the like deodorant. Yeah, but
if it's a leather shoe, because you can wipe the
deodoran off. What have no? Thanks Internet, All right, well
I'm going to go try that. But thank you so
much for joining us. Whether you've got us in your
(19:18):
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(19:39):
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just so you know, thank you for listening, thank you
for watching, and we'll see you Friday. Bye.
You're listening to Amma Mia podcast. Mamma Mia acknowledges the
traditional owners of land and waters that this podcast is
recorded on Makeup is My Therapy. I'm obsessed and I
don't even feel guilty about it. Hello, and welcome to
(00:32):
you Beauty the podcast for Your Face. I'm Lee Campbell,
I'm Kelly mccarrot, and you've got some news for me.
It came out a few weeks ago now, but I
just said to you off air, did you see it?
But algorithm? And I was like the Skim's beauty product launch.
It is one of those sort of you know how
you can get the KABD and J beauty sheet masks
that have the fluid like get liquid and they snatch
(00:54):
your jaw. Yeah, so she's made this full like head
thing that snatches your jaw. The outrage has been outrageous,
which I do agree with because it's like, can we
even just relax? But also she's definitely not the first
person to do it. I've been around for so long. No, yeah,
she's copying so much criticism because like it's like impossible
(01:14):
beauty standards. You know, her whole brand is like sucking
in and perking up and did it, which I agree,
But then I also just think because she's the most
famous person to do it and it's her. Yeah, I
completely agree with you, Like I don't think she should
be getting flack when so many other brands do this
also they were. I know, I looked back in my
camera roll and I had an old one. I'll have
to find what it was. I mean, I don't have
(01:34):
it anymore. It was a single year sheet mask thing,
but it went over your face and up behind your ears,
and you were meant to wear it for an hour
and it's too uncomfortable. I mean I wore it for
an hour before an event. I wouldn't do it all
the time, but before an advent or a photo or
some sort of fancy thing. They actually do definitely work.
But she fine convent it. She invented, So why are
we shouting at her? I don't know. Anyway, that's a
little bit of beauty news. But what are we doing today?
(01:57):
I couldn't help, but Wonder asked me anything. You ask
plenty questions. Well we are answering your questions. So if
you do have a question, polase let us know. You
can dm us as our lovely Olivia has today, Well,
I'll read what Olibya's. Oh yes, please, lovelyly, Is it
okay to send you a question for the Beauty podcast?
Of course. I'm starting to see products with azaelic acid,
(02:20):
but I'm not sure what it does. Where do I
fit it into my routine? Is it like an exfoliating acid,
or as you said, some serums that say acid are
actually hydrating. All of the acids confuse me and I
don't want to strip my skin. Such a good question,
and you're right to be cautious before you add it
first up. This has just reminded me that so many
(02:42):
years ago I did a Thursday episode Deep Dive like
the A to Z of acids just acids, not ingredients. Acids.
Oh yeah, it was like and I didn't touch on
some of the I think I did make a couple
of jokes. I'm sure how many of them made it
into the final cut, but god, and I'm so silly.
(03:02):
I just thought, oh, yeah, because this is a good
one for Z. But it starts with but you do
Z acid? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, well let's explain
asalic acid for Olivia and the ubis because there's confusion
around it. And it feels quite underground. Are quite new,
and that's for a reason. So up until about this
time last year, late well mid to late twenty twenty four,
(03:22):
the TGO changed its rules and restrictions around the use
of marketing and how you could buy asalic acid. So
at a certain percentage it was considered a drug, you know,
a medicine, so it was behind the counter or prescription.
But then they change that. Still there's variations around the percentage,
but now brands that you can just walk in and
pick up can formulate with it. So it feels like, oh,
(03:45):
I don't know this, but it's because it was more
restricted before. So Olivia is asking, is it exfoliating mildly?
Let me tell you about it, because you might not
need it, my friend, Olivia. So it's a pretty great ingredient.
It helps with rhisasia, it helps with acne or breakouts,
and it helps with hyperpigmentation. So it's a bit of
(04:05):
an all rounder, kind of like we hear about our
retinal little bit like nice cinamide sort of. I would
say it's better for someone with rose a sha than retinol.
Not always, oh yes, just because like a lot of
my Roseesia. Girls love this ingredient because it's gentle enough,
like retinol is quite intense. Oh yeah, Rose, she is
(04:27):
obviously very food seventy accents exactly. Wel that's it, and
so I mean it also depends on the strength you get,
same with retinol. But it's antibacterial and anti inflammatory, which
is why it's also great for breakout. And because it
is an acid, like a proper acid, not a hyaluronic acid,
which they should just change that name. It is gently exfoliating,
so it can fade the marks you might get after
(04:50):
a breakout, you know, hyperpigmentation, post blemish marks. It can
reduce breakouts, which we love. And I've been getting quite
a few verslated. So oh my god, why mercury are
you in retrograde? Why is it coming out on our skin?
I think it's like, well, one of those girls needs
to taste small acne products. It's safer sensitive skin. Again,
you'll err on the side of caution. And it can
(05:11):
be used during pregnancy, which is great because a lot
of you know, things that are for pigmentation or you know,
anything that feels like it's doing anything you feel like
you can't use so you can use it daily, but
start slow. You can even kind of use it morning
and night depending on the product, but it starts slow
just because it is an active ingredient. Before I tell
you some products, you need to assess the rest of
(05:31):
your routine because if you know this is quite an
active product, if you're already using a retinol, a vitamin
c acca, you don't need it. No, you probably don't
need it, but it might be worthwhile assessing your whole
routine and it could replace something else if it's better
for you. So look at your routine as a whole.
Check out what's active. Check out what they're doing, because
you don't want to over do it. Some brands our
(05:53):
beautiful favorite to one of our favorite products, You and
I kellical brands Naturia. They have two azaleic acid products
that's made in the US, so I think they have
always had, you know, more lax restrictions there, so they
brought it here. As Clear is really popular. It's just
a pharmacy brand, quite not sexy packaging. It's a Z
clear that's more for you kind of hardcore breakouts. Like
(06:16):
I put that in the acne category where you would
go to like that medical acne area in the pharmacy.
Paula's choice of course Laroche Paz and a brand I
hadn't heard of, but it's got amazing review. Its Hello Skin,
They've got a really good one. So if you do
Google or go and have a look, you'll find that
most azalig acid products are marketed to breakouts. But have
a look around. I feel like now, I mean that
(06:37):
was a year ago that the TGA lifted the restrictions.
It's definitely more, but I think more and more brands
are like, oh okay, we can use that now in
a better percentage, or we can talk about that now.
So I think we'll see more and more of it.
I did not have any in my collection. I want
to give it a go obviously. Put for me, I
mean I do get the odd spot, but for me
the pigmentation situation and I'm not sensitive, but I'm sensor
(07:00):
tized to my skin from all the chopping and change. Yeah,
so I'm going to hunt one out and report back. Yeah,
report back, because I went through my bathroom and I
was like, I've got to have one somewhere. Noe. Yeah,
So long story short, Olivia, check out what you're doing.
If you've got breakouts, give it a go. If you're
already using a retinol that you laugh, I wouldn't switch,
but what that guy is. Kaz has also sent to
(07:26):
us a DM. Hello, I love the pod, especially Monday apps. Okay,
my question is about lines and creepy skin on the neck.
I mean my early fifties and really noticing this. I've
tried the boost Lab Next serum and now the Trinny
Elevator cream with only very minor results. What are your
suggestions any other serums or skin treatments I could try?
(07:48):
Thank you so much, Kaz Cauz. I feel you early fifties.
I'm forty three and I swear well not overnight, but
and I've always done my netcare. You've got a beautiful
net oh, Caz. Yes, okay, so listen, we can only
do so much topically, and whatever we're going to do,
we have to do consistently and be paid. So the
(08:11):
number one recommended thing for this area is retinal. But
the skin from your neck, like you'd under your chin
down to heat, is thinner and much more sensitive to
the skin on your face minus the skin under your eyes,
which is pretty much similar to this skin. So don't
go whacking your prescription retinal or your strong retinal straight
down here. You taught me that, and that blew my mind.
I don't know why I didn't know that, but I
(08:32):
just always assumed. I not, it makes sense, but I
always assumed anything that wasn't your face with the color robust, no,
because this bit. But then you go to your arms
and everywhere else, and that's thicker and more resilient. So
this area is just pretty skin. Guy, like, why do
we come out with different skin. I'm gonna recommend some
specific neck like chin to nipple products, but whatever you do,
(08:54):
if you do have a retinol that you like, you
could sandwich it, or you could just go by an
affordable face retinal that's at a lower percentage hydration. So
I would do retinol, maybe build up to most nights,
but then hydration. I would almost like, miss, well, this
is what I've been doing. If anyone's gonna look at
an boats different when I'm not on camera, I missed,
And then I'll do a hydrating serum and then a
(09:14):
lightweight moisturiza like I give my neck almost like a
treatment white my face. It's not just like one swaite
swipe swape. I've got some expensive ones and some affordable
ones because we love a spend diesel. Everything in the
show notes though, so oh yes, everything's in the show notes. Doctor,
as always Dr Naomi hit the deck because it's decolatile. Ah,
I think that's about one hundred and fifty dollars. Then sorry,
I've used. It's very good. It's quite strong build up.
(09:36):
Just because it's quite strong doesn't mean you should expect
results immediately. This is going to take three to six months.
So with all of these, I mean that an affordable one.
Now Rock Skincare has a really great neck and like
decolotage cream, really beautiful. That's forty two ninety nine. You
can get that wherever you get Rock skincare are you know,
the big er, little big c not like it's a
(09:59):
chemist brand, but not a chemist brand. Yeah, what is it? Really? Wow?
That was that made sense? It's actually very not very
under the radar. But I'm always impressed with the stuff
that I I've never tried a dud you same, they're
really good. Number seven also has one. When I was
researching this yesterday, I ordered it from Priceline four price,
it's fifty nine to ninety nine. I was reading a
(10:21):
whole bunch of reviews from around the world and it
sounded great, So it's on its way to me because
I was like, Gus, yes, exorbitantly expensive is a skin
Suitical's neck cream two hundred and forty nine dollars. Oh
my goodness, I know, I mean amazing reviews. I'm not
spend two hundred fifty dollars on my neck like I care,
but not as much as my face. And I'm already
(10:41):
in love with so many of their serums. I'm like, guys,
Bare Minerals has one that I've not tried it that
mainly did make up. I know. No, they do some
really good skincare. This is one hundred and eighteen and
Fresh Skincare also has one one hundred and fifty five dollars,
So if you want to find a specific product, it's
definitely out there. If it were me, I would probably
just go to your number seven you're ola and buy
(11:02):
a retino like I get a specific retinal for your neck,
or you know, the Elizabeth Ardan retnols that are really hydrating,
this one that you love, I would almost go Okay,
you're my neck retinal. And then you could also like
have a separate routine for your neck as you're building
that up. Specifically, because I'm assuming kas you know, you're
into skincare and you're in your fifties, your face might
(11:23):
be more used to anti aging products than your neck.
So almost go, okay, face tonight, this is your routine,
and the next this is your routine, and like catch
it up. Yeah, you know what I mean. Sunscreen because
sunscreen and always from your well, your forehead to your nipples,
because what the sun exposure does is degrade the college
(11:44):
and the lastin and that's why it's getting whobbuy if
it's really bothering you and you wanted to do a treatment, yes,
there's lots of options. Are if skin tightening, so radio
frequency hyphu. I've done high phoo. That's that really weird one.
It tightens, but i'd also kind of got rid of
that for me. They explained what that is to anyone
past Sorry her turkey, no her toad, toad or turkey gobble. Yes,
(12:10):
toads have the ball. Yeah they do too. Poor turkeys.
They're always the one. They're the ones that get what
I always think of a toad. Okay, yeah, I mean
I had two sessions, I think, and it was quite
not quite painful. It was like it felt like electric anyway, Okay,
it was fine, intense pulse lights of ipl there's certain
ones that can do that, lasers or there's a treatment
called ultraforma that is specifically about skin tighting. You're gonna
(12:32):
need a few sessions of those. It's gonna be expensive.
If I were you, I'd go find yourself a net
cream or a retinol that's right, and then I'd put
it in your diary, like I'm starting this now, and
then in three months within your diary house monet going,
and then in six months because it's not an overnight fix,
but it's a commitment, but it can be done. I mean,
look at our glorious faces. Just give you a cop
(12:53):
the that's it. So hopefully that helps KZ. But I
feel your sister, I'm just gonna keep wearing turtlenecks until
I've sorted mine out, she says, wearing a deep, deep plunge. Yeah,
but you have like whatever you've done on your mind.
So what I do is I wake up dry and revolting,
and I do my makeup, but then I just skin
flood my whole neck down to my nips, and then
(13:16):
I mix my foundation with my last step of my
body cream because that's a lot of pigmentation. Remember that
day that I forgot that I'd put a little bit
of makeup on and you were like, not a chance.
Is your chest skin that beautiful? You must have someone
And then I was like, oh, yeah, yeah, I probably would.
I have to do all the time. Yes, I would
put like even just a little bit of concealer, mixing
with moisturize. Yeah, without thinking that I've done my foundation.
(13:37):
Bronze is darker than my body, particularly in the middle
of winter, so it would be like I was wearing
a white mask. Yeah, exactly. All right, Kel, I've done
a lot of talking beauty bite. Let's beauty. Well, the
funny thing is with the beauty bite, I want us
to discuss it together because we need to talk about
(13:59):
the golden ol facial. Have you had one? What in
the magic So a little bit of a backstory, A
couple of well probably like six weeks ago, you had
this facial. It was called the Golden Our facial. It
was that sensation boutique in bron Tea, Sydney, but it's vegan,
so they have it at other clinics around Australia. You
(14:20):
just have to look on the website, which we will
link in the show notes. And Lee doesn't get that
many facials. You don't have time, you don't like to
lie still, and you were like, it was one of
the best facials I've ever had, so obviously then I
needed to go and get it because I love a facial. Fomo.
Oh do you really love a facial? Do you love
the results or the experience? Ah? I hate both. I
(14:42):
just don't. I just get so anxious about the time.
I like results. The way thing is, I kept thinking
about you because when you had no chop on and
you're being massage. The thing about a good skin therapist
is that they will tailor it to you. Yes. And
it was so funny because I just thought, there is
no way that Lee got this exact facial because mine
(15:04):
went for almost two hours. Mine was ninety minutes. I think, oh,
I can't remember, I feel remember I fell asleep. He
did because like that, And I said, did I fall asleep?
And she was like, oh, yeah, okay, maybe we did
get the exact same one because I thought there's no
way that Lee would actually sit here this on. But
if you fell asleep, that makes sense. Yeah, mine was phenomenal.
So it's a Vanessa Megan customized. They use gold in
(15:25):
one of like they literally use we need to put
a photo in here, They literally put It's very unsexy
while they're doing it because they're just kind of like
plastering gold onto your face. Okay, No, I didn't have that,
like you had sheets of gold. Yeah, I must have
been asleep because that was you definitely would have had
that because that's part of the gold in our facial
(15:46):
But I think that one of the how CCTV is
that in our industry, Lee and I both sometimes can
get a little bit cynical, of not cynical, but a
little bit like, oh about natural products or purely natural.
I don't think it's cynical. I think that that we've
tried so many treatments and products that there's plenty we
(16:09):
don't talk that don't work. Like treatments. We have our
products we try, so to be impressed is pretty impressive exactly.
So a lot of the time it takes like hardcore science.
So really, yea, yeah, yeah, yes, but oh my goodness,
these Vanessa Megan products and the skill of the therapist.
It was just outstanding and it was easy do super
(16:30):
firm facial. Yeah on you, because that's what I think,
that's what put me to sleep. It was wonder if
I had gold on my face. It was just outstanding
and it's such a gold. Gold is so beautiful gift
to either yourself or for someone else or just the products. Honestly,
I've Vanessa Megan's always been in my radar, but on
and off and then it's way back on now because
I just loved it anyway, So I was just so impressed.
(16:50):
So definitely have a look if you're after a facial
that feels good but also does something, and it can totally.
We always say you can't just get a one off
facial because there's no point. You may as well invest
in a good serm. You actually could, well, you know
what you could, because I don't sleep at night. The
fact that I fell asleep during the day or someone
was touching me very responsive NAP two hundred and sixty
five regardless, but obviously we're both Sydney bas We'll link
(17:12):
in the show notes and you can have a look
around the country if you want to have to try it. Well,
mine's way less sexy. Oh there's no gold, no topless massage. No,
but it involves shoes and deodorant and nothing to do
with smell. So winter's almost over. I hate winter shoes.
You hate winter shoes. They're so hard to like. I
get that ham high put a sock on with a
heel because my feet are cold. All you're the cool
(17:34):
girls do. But then it's just like the ham and
the shoe and the practice anyway. Yeah, my hem is wet.
Yeah right, even though I'm wearing a heel. But even
for me, it just is hard to make the outfit
look good. So I've still got some flats that I've purchased,
been going to break in, trying to break in, like
you know how breaking in a flat is just so
annoying anyway, Like it's flat. You have to like a
loafer or a balance, you know, they're just too awful.
(17:55):
Yeah right, too offul you you spend two hundred dollars
on good quality leather, used to have to break it in?
Absolutely not. Well I've got to hack for you, my friend,
So then I'm always the one going I could do
this and then halfway through the day im running to
seven eleven to fine blister pads and blah blah blah.
Guess what the Internet told me to do and it works.
Put the shoe on obviously before you get to blister stage,
but where it's rubbing, get deodorant ideally not spray on obviously,
(18:15):
but ideally like the creamy one, so you don't want
to do this on your Swede shoes. You rub deodorant
on the bit where it rubs, then put your shoe on. Gone,
the rub is gone. It acts like lubrication protection. Wow.
I would think that it would rub more and then
you'd get like, I think that's obviously why you can't
use the spray because it's like powder. Yeah, but when
you use those creamy ones, yeah, it acts like a
(18:36):
buffer and just kind of like, I don't know, it
warms it up anyway, like it doesn't rub for the
rest of the day. And I swear it's made my
shoes break into Oh my goodness, I love that so much.
You find another hack for deodorant, considering I love it
on my lips, like not my lips, like my sweating.
It's been geodorizing with a urricks owner or body under
the boobies. Wow, so it works. So I mean, I
(18:57):
know winter's nelly over, but we all like to wear
a clothin shoe if you've got it, even a heel
that rubs. Just don't do it on Swede because you
might get a bit of the like deodorant. Yeah, but
if it's a leather shoe, because you can wipe the
deodoran off. What have no? Thanks Internet, All right, well
I'm going to go try that. But thank you so
much for joining us. Whether you've got us in your
(19:18):
ears or you're watching us on YouTube, remember that we
have just a you Beauty Show. It's not like you
Beauty Show, just a You Beauty channel. It's not MoMA Maya,
it's just you Beauty. So you can come and join
us over there. We do have our very own YouTube channel.
And for anyone that might have been confused myself. Also,
the episode drop first thing in the morning, but then
it goes up on the YouTube channel that night about
(19:39):
seven pm. Ah, so if you really want to listen,
have a listen. And then if you want to see us,
you know, me barefoot with my cleavage, Kelly looking very
professional today. The YouTube clip goes up in the evening
just so you know, thank you for listening, thank you
for watching, and we'll see you Friday. Bye.
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