May 29, 2026 • 7 mins
SUMiT shares that his music comes from direct experience or close encounters. He reflects on his video for "Volunteer," explaining that it aims to convey scenarios showing people in need of help or hope, in an effort to provide a healing moment. Despite facing both constructive and destructive criticism on social media, summit notes that he maintains thick skin by considering the source and focusing on feedback from highly qualified individuals, such as his brother and fellow musicians like Pup & EDub.
See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Listen
Watch
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:00):
Summit right there with the encore Tyler yahwehs on there.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
It's funny how you called it the encore because you
guys actually went to the encore afterwards.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
Yeah, and he's a gambler, yep.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
Yep, he was looking forward to going there after. Bro,
That's kind of how it kind of made sense to
call it that for sure.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Yo, when we went to the encore together, like, he
just sat down and he was not getting up for
a while.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Man, that dude knows how to play. He likes to play. Yeah,
it was a great time, bro.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
We had a blast out there, for sure.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
We got a summit in here right now. You also
have this other song that I saw the video for Volunteer. Yes,
So when you do songs like that, is that coming
from place of experience? How vulnerable are you when it
comes to these records, Like how much of your life
are you ready to put out there if you haven't
already for the public to just be able to, you know,
dissect you.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
All of my music comes from direct experience or like
someone very very close encounter or something. And in the
in terms of the Volunteer video, we were basically trying
to convey some some scenarios that showed people in need
of help or in need of hope. So we were
kind of trying to think of like some like I'm
not saying that I've dealt with all of those directly
(01:05):
or anything like that, but just think of some scenarios
that kind of hit close to home and just trying
to have some kind of healing moment present. And that
was kind of the concept of the video.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
I feel like that area definitely every time I've gone there.
It's definitely like everywhere you go unfortunately, right, So it's
definitely in your eyesight all the time out there, right.
What when it comes to making records like that, and
you know, obviously you might know somebody that's personally going
through it.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
What some of the reactions do you get? Reactions? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Fortunately, all positive, Like the reactions to that video specifically,
like people like reach out and say it's their favorite
video or something that really moved them or you know,
in that video specifically, I had a lot of people
that are close to me, like in real life actually
in the video. So that makes it a little bit
more special too, and I think that makes them a
little bit more proud of of what they were a
(01:55):
part of too.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
That's what some man, some, it's in here right now.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Obviously getting to another level you know, been working for
for a minute. Now, what's the goal besides being rich
and famous and you know.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Right no, the real goal is just being able to
do something that I love, that provides a life and
opportunity for the people that I love.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
That's what's suthing, Man. Your socials and everything like that
is all s U M I T.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
S U M I T Music Official that's me on
Instagram and TikTok, and then it's Summit Music Official channel
on YouTube.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
That's what man, Some it's in here right now.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Obviously in the Boston area, we know, you know what
we look like and what we sound like. You know,
it's a lot of different people here, you know, like
you know, and obviously the rap game is a certain place.
I think it's definitely changed up now, but still you
live in a world of social media, whereas anybody outside
of Boston, there's constructive criticism, criticism, and then now there's
(02:50):
destructive criticism. How are you okay with getting both that love,
especially the destructive one.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
I think that to accept criticism you've got to qualify
somebody and somebody needs to be qualified to give you criticism,
and how you discern those qualifications are going to determine
how thicker thin your skin is. So un fortunate that
I work on my brother and my best friend who
will tell me straight about anything and he doesn't sugarcoat anything.
And I've developed thick skin over just over the years.
(03:17):
And I have people like yourself and like e Double
who are qualified, highly qualified to give me feedback and
they give me criticism. So it's basically just considered the source,
you know.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
So all the nasty noise out there, is it hard
to ignore? Or do you get nasty noise out there?
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Yeah, for sure, it's not hard to ignore, only in
the sense where it's it's not like I want to
prove something to that person. I just want them to
know something that they're not that they're missing, they're not
getting it, you know what I mean, Because I don't
think that they would talk or behave that way had
they known me in a certain way or whatever, like
you know what I mean. It's just that in front
of you, yeah, yeah exactly, or if they would just
face to face, just probably wouldn't be inclined to talk
(03:55):
like that. So it's it's stuff like that, but you
can't take it too seriously. When you click on the
and they don't have any followers and it's not even
a picture of them, it's like there's no accountability, right,
So why why you even give it that kind of creedom.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
It's crazy how people can live in that energy right
now where it I feel like people are doing that
more just to get a reaction.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
But I don't know.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
I can't, like, you know, I don't even I've done
interviews where literally something could have gone TMC and I
take it out of the interview, you know what I mean,
Because I'm just like, I don't want that energy.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
I don't never want to be part of that, you
know what I mean? But people just live like that.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
I can't understand it either. Bro. I like to say, like,
I make music for everybody, but I definitely don't make
music for the people who like to troll anonymously anonymously
on the internet. Those are not my kind of people,
you know what I mean. So yeah, I really don't
understand dedicating me a time to that at all.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
I like what you said, though, you got to you
gotta take criticism from people that are actually worth that
have put in that work or above you or whatever,
like you know, they have paid the way basically, they
don't listen right right, yeah, no, at.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Least are invested like intellectually into what they're saying, right
and not just talking just to talk, right. No.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
I love that right there, man, someone's in here right now.
I appreciate you taking the time. And again, I really
appreciate you, like you know, every time we run into
each other. You've never forced me with your music. And
I love the way this happened. And everyone that's listening
in right now, that's always you know, kind of like
to educate Boston at the same time, right, you know,
you put in that work. Go look him up right now.
You go see his numbers, and it's not a numbers game,
(05:18):
but it is a numbers game. You've got to put
in some work. So thank you for what you've been doing.
You've been you've been working at it for a long time,
and you know you've got to a threshold where now
hopefully we could take you to another level and then
you're going to get to another level from that, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
So what do you want to tell Boston man? I
know they've they've had you back for a long time, Boston.
Thank you for tuning in, Thank you for listening and
supporting me. They locked in with me because we've got
more heat on the way and it's only up from
here at your boy summit. Ye.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Yeah, he definitely put in work, man.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
I remember about that twenty three week project that you did, Man,
that was a.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Few three Yeah, yeah, twenty three weeks in a row.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
We dropped this long. Would you do that again something
like that again? Yeah, if it made sense for sure? Yeah, right, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
We're learning new ways to you know, get as much
music out there as possible and also do quality control
and just learning the game bro and just what works
and stuff like that. If there was ever a time
where it would be like, hey, bro, we got thirty weeks.
You need you, we need thirty tracks, but I would
take it as a challenge and not doing I.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Love what you said though, quality though, right, A lot
of people are getting their quantity over quality lost, right,
you know, and there's just too much quantity out there
right now, so you definitely got to put that quality
in there.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Absolutely, just making it make sense, like what is this song,
what is the purpose for this song right now.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
And what we got coming up in the albums and
we are we working on singles? Are we having dropping album?
Speaker 3 (06:31):
We got a project coming out this year.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
It's called Discovery Mode.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
It's some of the best work that I have a
lot of collaborations on there, a lot of personal music,
very easy listening vibe, a lot of big names on
there I'm excited about. And some singles before that will
be dropping as well.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
That's what's up, man. Thank you for coming out to
my Benefiticihal a couple of days ago.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
Man magulations on that.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Thank you man.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
The next one is going to be for I think
I told you off air, But next one's going forward
is going to be for music programs in schools in Boston.
So if the lineup fits, I would love to have
you for that too, and for you to come out
on it and give give.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Back a little bit.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
That one be on it, Bro, Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
There it is, Man, Send it to your boy pup Doc.
Thank you so much, Bro, Thank you Paup.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
I appreciate it. Brother,
Summit right there with the encore Tyler yahwehs on there.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
It's funny how you called it the encore because you
guys actually went to the encore afterwards.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
Yeah, and he's a gambler, yep.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
Yep, he was looking forward to going there after. Bro,
That's kind of how it kind of made sense to
call it that for sure.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Yo, when we went to the encore together, like, he
just sat down and he was not getting up for
a while.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Man, that dude knows how to play. He likes to play. Yeah,
it was a great time, bro.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
We had a blast out there, for sure.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
We got a summit in here right now. You also
have this other song that I saw the video for Volunteer. Yes,
So when you do songs like that, is that coming
from place of experience? How vulnerable are you when it
comes to these records, Like how much of your life
are you ready to put out there if you haven't
already for the public to just be able to, you know,
dissect you.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
All of my music comes from direct experience or like
someone very very close encounter or something. And in the
in terms of the Volunteer video, we were basically trying
to convey some some scenarios that showed people in need
of help or in need of hope. So we were
kind of trying to think of like some like I'm
not saying that I've dealt with all of those directly
(01:05):
or anything like that, but just think of some scenarios
that kind of hit close to home and just trying
to have some kind of healing moment present. And that
was kind of the concept of the video.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
I feel like that area definitely every time I've gone there.
It's definitely like everywhere you go unfortunately, right, So it's
definitely in your eyesight all the time out there, right.
What when it comes to making records like that, and
you know, obviously you might know somebody that's personally going
through it.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
What some of the reactions do you get? Reactions? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Fortunately, all positive, Like the reactions to that video specifically,
like people like reach out and say it's their favorite
video or something that really moved them or you know,
in that video specifically, I had a lot of people
that are close to me, like in real life actually
in the video. So that makes it a little bit
more special too, and I think that makes them a
little bit more proud of of what they were a
(01:55):
part of too.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
That's what some man, some, it's in here right now.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Obviously getting to another level you know, been working for
for a minute. Now, what's the goal besides being rich
and famous and you know.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Right no, the real goal is just being able to
do something that I love, that provides a life and
opportunity for the people that I love.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
That's what's suthing, Man. Your socials and everything like that
is all s U M I T.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
S U M I T Music Official that's me on
Instagram and TikTok, and then it's Summit Music Official channel
on YouTube.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
That's what man, Some it's in here right now.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Obviously in the Boston area, we know, you know what
we look like and what we sound like. You know,
it's a lot of different people here, you know, like
you know, and obviously the rap game is a certain place.
I think it's definitely changed up now, but still you
live in a world of social media, whereas anybody outside
of Boston, there's constructive criticism, criticism, and then now there's
(02:50):
destructive criticism. How are you okay with getting both that love,
especially the destructive one.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
I think that to accept criticism you've got to qualify
somebody and somebody needs to be qualified to give you criticism,
and how you discern those qualifications are going to determine
how thicker thin your skin is. So un fortunate that
I work on my brother and my best friend who
will tell me straight about anything and he doesn't sugarcoat anything.
And I've developed thick skin over just over the years.
(03:17):
And I have people like yourself and like e Double
who are qualified, highly qualified to give me feedback and
they give me criticism. So it's basically just considered the source,
you know.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
So all the nasty noise out there, is it hard
to ignore? Or do you get nasty noise out there?
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Yeah, for sure, it's not hard to ignore, only in
the sense where it's it's not like I want to
prove something to that person. I just want them to
know something that they're not that they're missing, they're not
getting it, you know what I mean, Because I don't
think that they would talk or behave that way had
they known me in a certain way or whatever, like
you know what I mean. It's just that in front
of you, yeah, yeah exactly, or if they would just
face to face, just probably wouldn't be inclined to talk
(03:55):
like that. So it's it's stuff like that, but you
can't take it too seriously. When you click on the
and they don't have any followers and it's not even
a picture of them, it's like there's no accountability, right,
So why why you even give it that kind of creedom.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
It's crazy how people can live in that energy right
now where it I feel like people are doing that
more just to get a reaction.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
But I don't know.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
I can't, like, you know, I don't even I've done
interviews where literally something could have gone TMC and I
take it out of the interview, you know what I mean,
Because I'm just like, I don't want that energy.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
I don't never want to be part of that, you
know what I mean? But people just live like that.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
I can't understand it either. Bro. I like to say, like,
I make music for everybody, but I definitely don't make
music for the people who like to troll anonymously anonymously
on the internet. Those are not my kind of people,
you know what I mean. So yeah, I really don't
understand dedicating me a time to that at all.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
I like what you said, though, you got to you
gotta take criticism from people that are actually worth that
have put in that work or above you or whatever,
like you know, they have paid the way basically, they
don't listen right right, yeah, no, at.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Least are invested like intellectually into what they're saying, right
and not just talking just to talk, right. No.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
I love that right there, man, someone's in here right now.
I appreciate you taking the time. And again, I really
appreciate you, like you know, every time we run into
each other. You've never forced me with your music. And
I love the way this happened. And everyone that's listening
in right now, that's always you know, kind of like
to educate Boston at the same time, right, you know,
you put in that work. Go look him up right now.
You go see his numbers, and it's not a numbers game,
(05:18):
but it is a numbers game. You've got to put
in some work. So thank you for what you've been doing.
You've been you've been working at it for a long time,
and you know you've got to a threshold where now
hopefully we could take you to another level and then
you're going to get to another level from that, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
So what do you want to tell Boston man? I
know they've they've had you back for a long time, Boston.
Thank you for tuning in, Thank you for listening and
supporting me. They locked in with me because we've got
more heat on the way and it's only up from
here at your boy summit. Ye.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Yeah, he definitely put in work, man.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
I remember about that twenty three week project that you did, Man,
that was a.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Few three Yeah, yeah, twenty three weeks in a row.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
We dropped this long. Would you do that again something
like that again? Yeah, if it made sense for sure? Yeah, right, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
We're learning new ways to you know, get as much
music out there as possible and also do quality control
and just learning the game bro and just what works
and stuff like that. If there was ever a time
where it would be like, hey, bro, we got thirty weeks.
You need you, we need thirty tracks, but I would
take it as a challenge and not doing I.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Love what you said though, quality though, right, A lot
of people are getting their quantity over quality lost, right,
you know, and there's just too much quantity out there
right now, so you definitely got to put that quality
in there.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Absolutely, just making it make sense, like what is this song,
what is the purpose for this song right now.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
And what we got coming up in the albums and
we are we working on singles? Are we having dropping album?
Speaker 3 (06:31):
We got a project coming out this year.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
It's called Discovery Mode.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
It's some of the best work that I have a
lot of collaborations on there, a lot of personal music,
very easy listening vibe, a lot of big names on
there I'm excited about. And some singles before that will
be dropping as well.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
That's what's up, man. Thank you for coming out to
my Benefiticihal a couple of days ago.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
Man magulations on that.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Thank you man.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
The next one is going to be for I think
I told you off air, But next one's going forward
is going to be for music programs in schools in Boston.
So if the lineup fits, I would love to have
you for that too, and for you to come out
on it and give give.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Back a little bit.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
That one be on it, Bro, Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
There it is, Man, Send it to your boy pup Doc.
Thank you so much, Bro, Thank you Paup.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
I appreciate it. Brother,
Popular Podcasts
Dateline NBC
Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com
Hey Jonas!
Hey Jonas! The official Jonas Brothers podcast. Hosted by Kevin, Joe, and Nick Jonas. It’s the Jonas Brothers you know... musicians, actors, and well, yes, brothers. Now, they’re sharing another side of themselves in the playful, intimate, and irreverent way only they can. Spend time with the Jonas Brothers here and stay a little bit longer for deep conversations like never before.
Betrayal Weekly
Betrayal Weekly is back for a new season. Every Thursday, Betrayal Weekly shares first-hand accounts of broken trust, shocking deceptions, and the trail of destruction they leave behind. Hosted by Andrea Gunning, this weekly ongoing series digs into real-life stories of betrayal and the aftermath. From stories of double lives to dark discoveries, these are cautionary tales and accounts of resilience against all odds. From the producers of the critically acclaimed Betrayal series, Betrayal Weekly drops new episodes every Thursday. If you would like to share your story, you can reach out to the Betrayal Team by emailing them at betrayalpod@gmail.com and follow us on Instagram at @betrayalpod and @glasspodcasts. Please join our Substack for additional exclusive content, curated book recommendations, and community discussions. Sign up FREE by clicking this link Beyond Betrayal Substack. Join our community dedicated to truth, resilience, and healing. Your voice matters! Be a part of our Betrayal journey on Substack.