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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's the Eighties Show Podcast. I'm Jeff Stevens. Thank you
very much for listening. Time to welcome in Steve Brown.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
How are you man, I'm good man, How are you?
Speaker 1 (00:08):
I'm really good Steve Brown with Trickster. For all those
years you've toured with def Leppard, you have done amazing
work and now you've got the Always Jovie tribute band
and let me just say, man, as someone who loves,
loves loves eighties music, you are all over it. It's
the absolute best music.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Out there, that's for sure. And that's one of the
things you know, Jeff, I tell people, and especially when
I do interviews. To me, there's no greater genre of
music that's had a longer staying power than the eighties
rock and even the eighties pop rock. If you go
from nineteen eighty to nineteen ninety that decade you think
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of all the great sort of genres of music, I
don't know any genre of music that's had a longer
staying power. And of course a genre of music that
is aged so well, yes as eighties music.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Yes, that is so well, said Steve, because the eighties
should be long over if you look at them being
forty years ago, it's like, yeah, you know, they should
have just died and gone away. And they they're they're
bigger now than they ever have been.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
That's for that's for sure. And you see what bands
are still sometimes selling out arenas and selling out stadiums,
the Journeys, the Death Leopards, the bon Jovi's, you know,
and it just goes to show you the staying power
of the music, you know. And I'm a huge fan,
you know. And dude, we have a lot in common
because I played in an eighties band in New York
band Rubik's Cube for twelve years. Oh nice, you know,
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I know, I know all about it. And and I'm
such a fan of all the eighties pop. You know.
My older brother was a huge Adam and the Ants fan.
He loved you know, Soft Cell and Duran and Duran Duran.
You know. At the core of it all, you know,
and I think you know this better than I do.
The core of it all is great songwriting and great songs.
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Forget about the hairstyles, forget about the clothes, forget about
the fluorescent colors. At the core of it all is
great music and great songs.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
You have nailed it once again. My friend. I knew
I was gonna like you. You we have so much
in common, and you're exactly right, because just so much
of that stuff still holds up today. And obviously we're
going to talk a lot about bon Jovi here in
a second. But I got to ask, Steve, did you
really start Trickster when you were like twelve or thirteen?
Speaker 2 (02:25):
I really did. And you know, I started playing guitar
in nineteen seventy eight. I was, you know, shot with
the needle in my arm of rock and roll. It
was Kissing van Halen. Eddie van Halen and Ace Freeley
were the two big influences in my life that completely
changed my life. You know, kiss rock and roll over
in van Halen won. So from that time, from that
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moment on, I've sold my soul to rock and roll,
and I've been running with the devil ever since. Well,
I said, so, Trickster. So I immediately fell in love
with rock and roll guitar playing, and then I started
singing and songwriting. And by the time I was eleven
years old, I had a local friend of mine who
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played on my basketball team, and he told me he
was a drummer, and he said, why don't you bring
your guitar and amp and come over. And I went
over to his house and that was the first time
I ever jammed with somebody and heard the live power
of rock and roll, you know, hearing that volume, hearing
a live drum set blow my ears out, you know,
and it was the greatest feeling in the world. And
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I'm like, I want more of this, And it was
just immediate, you know, and I think subliminally, you know.
And it's funny because I've told some of my friends,
you know, I've I've been friends with the Van Halen
brothers for thirty five years, you know, Ed and Al,
and I still talk to Al all the time, and
I told them the stories, and I told Astis when
I was working on the Ace Freely record, I said, man,
I knew more about your business stuff, probably than you
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did when I was ten or eleven years old, because
I would study those albums and I knew who the
trucking company was for Kiss, I knew who they're mashing
company was. I knew who their booking agent was, and
it was you know, again, that was my obsession with
rock and roll. It was like, forget about learning about
you know, history, and how to write cursive and how
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to do this. I want to know all about rock
and roll, and that's what I did, and hence, by
the time I was twelve years old, I knew how
to put a band together. And I found luckily I
had a kid four years old and the Pete Lauren,
who became the singer Trickster. He wasn't a singer at
the time, but he was the best looking kid in
town and all the girls loved him. And I said,
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if I could teach that dude how to sing rock
and roll and grow his hair and get a JOm
bon jovie die job, I got a chance at this,
and that's exactly what I did. And it was that
blind faith. It was that blind faith and drive and
that desire to have that life. And you know, within
a year, we were playing our first gig at at
our middle school, Eastbrook Middle School, where my father was
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the vice principal, and we played our first Trickster show there,
and then our second Tricks to Show, which this July
eighth is gonna mark forty two years of Tricks there
being in existence, which is crazy because I keep telling
everybody I'm twenty five years old, so you know, thank God,
thank God for hair. Guy.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
That's right. Like I'm trying to do the math here.
I'm not sure if that works out. Dude, that's such
a cool story. And obviously you got the bug very
very early, and obviously with your new Jersey background, it
makes perfect sense that you've jumped into the always Jovie tribute. Now. Bro,
I've heard. I've followed you for months and every time
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I hear you guys put out another clip or whatever,
I'm like, holy caw. You are awesome at covering your
pal Jon bon Jovi and his band. You guys sound phenomenal.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Well, that means the world and that's you know, Jeff,
that's been the goal. And you know, I don't know
if a lot of people know, but back in nineteen
eighty six, John bon Jovi was the first real legitimate
rock star to get behind Trickster. We sent him our
first demo tape. We actually gave it to him. Pete
Pete and the drummer met him at a thing before
slipping when wet blew up summer of nineteen nineteen eighty six,
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and a week later he called us on the hotline
and he gave us. He said, man, I think you
guys got a lot of potential. Keep it up, keep
sending me tapes. He gave us Doc McGee's address in
New York City, and I proceeded over the next couple
months and years to send him, you know, new demos
and tapes and he always would call back. And then
coincidentally a little while after that, he introduced us to
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the skid Row guys, to Snake, Rachel and Scottie, and
they became like big brothers, and he told them, make
sure you take care of Steve and the Trickster guys.
And you know, so John, you know, and bon Jovi,
the band and the songs have been always one of
my biggest influences. You know. I tell the story there
were three lights changing concerts that I went to in
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my life, and bon Jovi was one of them. It
was Kiss nineteen seventy nine, my first concert ever, life changing,
Seen your Superheroes. The next one was seeing Eddie van
Halen with Van Halen Live Eddie and Alex nineteen eighty
two at Madison Square Garden. That was the show that
I said, this is the kind of band that I
want to model Trickster after, you know. And then the
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next concert was nineteen eighty five bon Jovi and Rat
at the Meadowlands Arena. It was the night Bon Joby
got their gold records for seventy eight hundred degrees fahrenheit
and seeing them that was my new model to where
I said, I want Trickster to be a combination of
Van Halen, def Leppard and what bon Jovi is. And
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most importantly seeing John who had nineteen eighty five you know,
was you know, just on fire. He could seem great,
he looked amazing. Coolest thing. He was the new David
Lee Roth meet Steve Perry if you will, Yeah, you
know the way his vocals because he had he had
he had charisma, but he could sing great. And then
the X factor at that show that completely was a
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huge influence on me was seeing Richie Sambora because that
was the first time I saw a guitar player that
was a lead singer. Because it was very apparent hearing
Richie that he had the most powerful voice in the band.
And that's no disrespect to John because John was always
and still is amazing, you know, but Richie being that
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I was still the guitar player and Trickster that was
the moment that I said, I need to stop worrying
about playing shred guitar solos and focus more on singing
better and being a better songwriter. And that was it,
and you know again, so fast forward to where we
are now. Always Jovi is the ultimate tribute and my
tribute to my band's tribute because we're mostly all Jersey
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guys and girls and we just love bon Jovie and
the goal is to do the best possible sounding version.
We're not doing a mimic show. We're not doing wigs
and costumes, and there's nothing wrong with that, but we
are doing a pitch perfect if you close your eyes.
It spawned Jovi at their peak in nineteen eighty nine.
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And you know, and luckily for me, Jeff, I've had
this crazy ability all my life to kind of sing
like John and sound like John and it's not an
act and it's nothing that I really have to try
so hard about, you know, to do and it comes
natural and funny thing is it really all got knocked
in drilled home in my head by the def Leopard guys.
(09:35):
You know, I've been Deaf Leppard's backup guitar player for
the last twelve years and Phil and Joe. Phil, especially
Phil Colin would always say, Steve, you sound like Joan
bon Jovi, and you know when he could really sing,
and you know, and I remember Joe Elliott. The first
rehearsal I did with those guys, I came out and
I sang like A I did like a whoa, like
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a like a Richie standboy. He goes, that sounds like
that sounds you much like Sam Borisive. Don't do that
on our stage.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Now get your bond jovie out of my def leopard exactly.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
And then I immediately went bow some suga oh me
and he goes, that's like, I love it.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Oh my gosh, dude. I feel like we could talk
for about three hours here. This is the first of all.
So excited that you guys are going to be in
Middletown at the Sorg Opera House. The show is June
sixth at seven pm in Middletown, of course, fifteen twenty
minutes from downtown Dayton. And this is a must see show.
Ever since I saw you guys, like I said, pop
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up on Instagram or whatever, and I've been seeing some
of your clips, I thought, ooh, and your voice was
the first thing that got me. I was like, holy cow,
he is he is nailing it. There's it's it looks effortless,
and you know, we all want to think about that.
The first time I saw them was New Jersey tour
in nineteen eighty nine, and I just the reason I
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started my own band was because of you know, I
was John and my best friend was Richie. You know,
it's like, we've got to this is what we want
to do the rest of our lives. So I got
to have a radio career and then a band on
the side, which I'm very, very thankful for all of it.
But my goodness it watching you do bon Jovie was
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amazing and people are going to be blown away.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Well that means the world to me. And again, this
has just been it's been a just about a year
to the day that we, you know, had our first rehearsal,
and it's just been magic. And again, I really I've
told people I haven't worked this hard at creating something
since I created Trickster. So you know, I just think
that when people come out and see the show and
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we can't wait to play the sword, so you know,
and Ohio has always been even back in the Trickster days.
And I say this, you know, with with with all
the love in the world, Ohio was the first state
to embrace Trickster. We broke out of Ohio, really, so
my love for Ohio is long and deep, and some
of the greatest memories of my life have been in
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that state. So Ohio, we love you. And you know
again playing Dayton, playing Cincinnati, and we just had, you know,
our debut show was in Versailles a couple of weeks
ago at the BMI Event Center, so you know, we had,
you know, over nine hundred people there. So we can't
wait for everybody to come to the sword. We are
going to deliver. We're going to work because the band
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is even better now and we're just so excited and
just so thankful and you know, and it's the ultimate
celebration of some of the greatest rock music ever created,
and that is bon Jovi.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Well, Steve, you couldn't have said any better than that.
You've got it teed up perfectly for everybody to go see.
And by the way, speaking of Ohio, loving you and
loving Trickster, I saw you April thirteenth, nineteen ninety one
at the Nutter Center with the Scorpions.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Yeah, I remember that show like yesterday. Of course, man,
you know that was again, you know, the Scorpions Tour,
Trickster Scorpions Crazy World Tour in nineteen ninety one. That
was our our first big go around of North America.
And what better way to do it? And of course
you know the connection to the Scorpions. This is a
great story. You'll love this. The first night of the
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tour that we did, when we came out, Rudolph Shanker
pulled me aside. He goes, oh, Trickster Steve, We're so
happy to have you guys out on the road with us.
You know. You you guys remind us of a young
bun Jovi. And he goes, he goes, and we know,
and we know there's gonna be a lot of beautiful
girls in the crowd because of you guys. That I go,
you damn right, man, And that was that was one
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of the coolest and you know, one of the greatest
experiences of our lives. And you know, we had such
an incredible time. The Scorpions were like brothers, you know,
older brothers to us. And we still love those guys.
And you know, and I remember also One of the
great bon Jovi memories is the night on that tour.
It was probably a month before that, in March, we
were playing La and John bon Jovi. Doc McGhee was
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still managing the Scorpions and still managing bon Jovi. John
came to our show and it was the day that
we found out our record wink gold and I told
John was one of the first people I told backstage.
I pulled them aside and said, hey, man, I just
want you to know our record went gold today. And
I said, he never would have happened without you, And
he said to me, he said, man, gave me a hug.
He said, dude, I'm so proud of you. He's like,
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I always knew you guys were gonna make it. And
it was one of the greatest memories. And I every
time I see John, I remind him of that, and
it's very special. And again that's how much love is there.
We're just so happy to be there and at the Sword.
We can't wait to see everybody and rock them all. Right.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Well, Steve Brown, so cool talking to you man always Jovie,
You've got to see this tribute guys. Sorg Opera House,
June sixth, seven pm in Middletown. Really cool to talk
to you brother. Can't wait to see us.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Steve, great, Jeff, Thank you so much in Middletown, Dayton,
we love you and come out and say hi. Do
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