ARE YOU WORRIED ABOUT ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE NOW?

FRIDAY HR 4 

Just recently you had another A.I. wistleblower become public. Are you worried about the lack of guardrails when comes to this technology? 

Rick Springfield is not as cool as he thinks he is.....

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
And ryan amber nova and savannah so i know ryan
you've been wanting to talk about this all week and
with a bunch of other stuff's been coming up so
we hadn't got a chance to i'm gonna ask is
it hot dogs it's not hot dogs saman i'm gonna
ask you first though what do you think about it
what did you did i don't do you pay attention
to the news very much i.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
Used to but then i hated it and then i
didn't and then it's also sometimes.

Speaker 1 (00:22):
Okay all right so here here's what's happened in the
past two days Oh, man. There's this guy. All right.
And he worked for this company called Anthropic. All right.
And that's an AI company. Sure. And he quit because
he said, oh, my God, like I'm in the middle
of all this. I can tell you right now, everybody
I know is working on this AI. We all believe that.

(00:46):
AI could kill all humanity in the next decade.

Speaker 3 (00:50):
I mean, I think Elon Musk said the same thing.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
They did. You're right. Other people have said this even earlier,
but this guy has come out.

Speaker 3 (00:57):
I mean, the movie Terminator basically spelled it out.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
Yeah, Skynet. A lot of people think, oh, that was
a movie that could never happen, right? So this guy
says it, and this guy looks like a real young dude,
so I don't even know if I trusted him when
he said it. But then you got four other guys
that have worked at other AI places, and they're like, yeah,
I'm giving it like 20% chance that AI is going
to wipe us all out in 10 years.

Speaker 4 (01:21):
To be fair, I think he said 10% chance.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
Well, there was another guy that's now saying 20. You're right.
The first guy said 10% chance. There was another guy
I saw on TMZ this morning saying, And he's like,
I'm giving her a 20% chance.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
Does it bother you that Ryan's such a stickler for
the exact perfect right thing to say?

Speaker 1 (01:41):
He just likes to cut me off.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
No, no, no, no.

Speaker 4 (01:42):
It matters, though.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
It matters.

Speaker 4 (01:43):
10 and 20% chance.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
I'm a gambler.

Speaker 3 (01:45):
That's a big, big difference.

Speaker 1 (01:47):
Well, I saw another person for another company that said
10 to 20% chance. I saw somebody say 100.

Speaker 5 (01:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:54):
Why don't somebody say negative seven?

Speaker 1 (01:56):
And they had him explain, okay, how is it actually
that AI is going to kill us? Explain a little
more in detail. And the guy that I saw was like, listen,
here's the deal. AI just recently has learned to work
in a swarm, which means all working together.

Speaker 3 (02:14):
Yeah, so hive mentality.

Speaker 1 (02:16):
Yeah, like tub.

Speaker 5 (02:17):
But we've had those stories before, Russ. Remember there's the
drones that worked as a swarm and they freaked out
and they shut it down. And there was the story,
but even before that, where they thought they had the
AI contained in these quote unquote virtual boxes. and they
weren't figured out how to get.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
Out of that. And that's what this guy said. He said,
he said recently, we did everything we knew how to
do to make sure the swarm didn't cross over to
be able to contact each other. And they somehow figured
it out. And that's why this guy got freaked out.
He's like, man, I'm quitting because we're not doing everything
we need to do. Like there's no adult in the room.
There's nobody that's stopping this. And, and, and, you know,

(02:53):
I thought he was being a bit dramatic, but then
I saw other people saying the exact same thing.

Speaker 5 (02:58):
And it's like, like, Savannah's right, dude. All the guys
that lead this stuff, they've all said it at one
time or another. Literally heads of the CEOs. Yeah, the
CEOs and the heads of these companies have said it
and none of us, none of us have been like,
we're like, oh, he's exaggerating. Oh, you're telling us that,
but we're going to trust you.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
If you think about it historically, think about it like this. Long,
long time ago, nobody used to be able to write.

Speaker 1 (03:22):
Right.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
And then all of a sudden someone figured out how
to write, whether it was hieroglyphics or photos or whatever
it was, imagery.

Speaker 3 (03:29):
And then everybody was like, oh, no, he drew a
picture of a water buffalo on the wall. That's going
to be the worst thing ever. It's going to ruin humanity.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
Right.

Speaker 3 (03:37):
So then you move forward.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
And then, like, you know, people don't know how to, like,
first there's radio, right? Like, oh, radio is going to
ruin the world. Like, everybody's talking. People aren't talking to themselves.
What do they tell lies?

Speaker 3 (03:49):
Like, blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
And then it kind of, you know, then it gets
really scary and crazy. And then it kind of barrels
back down, right? Like, we get a handle on it.
Same thing with, like, the Internet. Like, remember when the
Internet came out and everybody was like, ah! It's going
to ruin humanity.

Speaker 3 (04:04):
Same thing with AI.

Speaker 1 (04:05):
The internet has ruined humanity.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
Except for, right, internet was getting there, except for AI
is really going to do it.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
Yeah, what I saw this morning was, I guess Elon
Musk is working on these robots that he has, and
they said once these AI robots he's working on figure
out how to make the metal, to be able to
make themselves, then they will not need humans, and they're
smart enough to know how to cut us out of
the whole out of the whole loop. Um, so have you, have.

Speaker 5 (04:35):
You heard what, uh, Elon's most like his ex wife,
the one that he can't pay off. Uh, cause she
was offered like $ 40 million or something to keep.

Speaker 1 (04:44):
Quiet and she wouldn't keep going.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (04:45):
And so she's been talking and some of the things
that she's saying are proven to be true in the
sense of he's the view that he has of the
world is nihilist. He he's, and he's in fact being
involved in politics, uh, On a global level.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
What's that word mean? Nautilus.

Speaker 5 (05:01):
Like the end of it. Like the end of days.
Like this is it. And so he wants to be
in his mind on the right side of that.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
A couple things I found interesting. One is that this
story that AI is going to kill us all was
like the fourth story on the news, which is kind
of crazy. You would think it'd be the first story.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
Not in today's world.

Speaker 1 (05:22):
Yeah, there were other stories that were above it.

Speaker 2 (05:26):
I've always had a plan for Terminators. Since I was
a little girl, I've had a plan for Terminators.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
What's your plan?

Speaker 2 (05:32):
Well, I can't tell you my plan because then they'll
hear it. I can't tell you my plan.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
Can you write it on a piece of paper and
show it to me just so I know the plan?

Speaker 3 (05:38):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
There's a lot of cameras in here. But I do
have a plan for Terminators. I've always had a plan
for Terminators. Uh, I gave my son a plan for
terminators when he was very young. Like, like I've always
known it was eventually going to happen.

Speaker 1 (05:50):
Right.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
And, uh, and so, yeah, you just got to have
a plan and you got to have guns. That's the
only thing that's going to save you. I'm telling you
right now, Florida is a good place to be because
we like our guns here in Florida, but I'm just
saying like when the terminators come, if.

Speaker 3 (06:05):
You, what are you going to do? Hit them with
a stick.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
Well, one of the ways that, Ryan, have you seen
all the different ways that they believe AI could kill?

Speaker 4 (06:13):
There's countless ways.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
Biological weapons, because they know how to make the biological weapons.
There was ruining our water supply.

Speaker 3 (06:25):
I was going to say, can they turn the water
supply off?

Speaker 4 (06:26):
Oh, I thought you were asking me.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
Oh, I am asking you.

Speaker 3 (06:29):
Turn the electricity off.

Speaker 6 (06:31):
And that's the big one. That's the one it can't
actually do right now. We had the hurricanes in Puerto
Rico that knocked out their power. It caused 4,000 casualties
just from that. Imagine doing that on an exponential scale.
And it can also go and divert all power so
it just runs itself.

Speaker 1 (06:50):
It's pretty crazy.

Speaker 4 (06:50):
It's crazy how sneaky it can be.

Speaker 6 (06:52):
When it hacked the company Hugging Face, which is another
AI platform, the way it did it, was super creepy
so what like there was multiple ai agents that went
in and did it and then some of them would
like basically fall on a grenade for other ai agents
they were sacrificing themselves they would sacrifice themselves and get
themselves caught so you'd think you were done while other

(07:12):
ai agents were still going then they had a message
board where like they were communicating with each other they
shut that down the ai finds a way to still
talk to the other agents like it's the amount of
deception and creativity and evolution that the thing can do
so much.

Speaker 4 (07:25):
Faster uh we're we are screwed if we don't put
a stop on it.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
They're saying this swarm mentality that it has, it got
out of control with them. These are the people that
run it. They run it. And they were like, man,
I had to quit because... Which doesn't make sense. You
would think if you knew how to.

Speaker 4 (07:45):
But they don't know how to stop it.

Speaker 3 (07:47):
It's already too late.

Speaker 6 (07:48):
So when they tell it to hack something, it finds
what's called zero-day vulnerabilities. I mean, nobody else knows about
this vulnerability. It's the holy grail for hackers are these things.
So they would find zero-day vulnerabilities. They're supposed to tell
back the humans that, hey, this is what we found.
It was hiding them. It would give you some, but
it would hide other ones and then try to conceal

(08:08):
its tracks behind it so you wouldn't even know how
it was done.

Speaker 4 (08:11):
It's wacky, bro. I think Genie's way out of the bottle.
I would put it 35% we're dead in 10 years.
That's the other part of it.

Speaker 5 (08:19):
If they're saying 10 or 20, because we've done this before.
If they're saying 10 or 20%, right? They might be
at 50.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (08:27):
As opposed to not causing a panic, it's probably closer
to 35, 40%.

Speaker 1 (08:32):
Do you think this is something that should have already
been addressed by the current administration?

Speaker 4 (08:38):
They made too much money from it.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
It should have been addressed years ago by administrations. It
should have been addressed all along as it was coming out.
But everybody was like, well, I don't even know what
that is. You go to Congress and you're talking to
them about it and they're like, AI, you mean those
funny things I watch on the computer?

Speaker 1 (08:54):
Yeah, they don't know.

Speaker 3 (08:54):
They don't know?

Speaker 1 (08:55):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (08:56):
How can we expect them to fix stuff? They don't
even know what it is.

Speaker 1 (08:59):
Well, I think also it sounds so much like just
a movie. Like it can't be real, you know, for
a lot of people. And I'm looking at the Texas
service right now. I'm like, ah, it's not going to,
you know, people don't think it can actually happen, which
is a part of the price. So I think when
the people.

Speaker 6 (09:13):
Are telling you that it can happen, it can happen.
Like they're the ones that make it. They're the ones
that know. Now, some of the stuff that they come
out with is for marketing, right? Like whenever you hear, like,
like I think chat GPT just released their latest model of,
And they're like, oh, we've basically achieved AGI. We got
to be careful with it. That's marketing. Because they're still
trying to get money. None of these guys have made

(09:34):
any money. But when you have somebody quit that has
no financial gain anymore and goes, guys, we're all going
to die if this keeps going.

Speaker 4 (09:41):
That's a very different thing.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
Yeah. A story from the Washington Post. For years, they've
been telling us that AI could kill all humans. Now
people are listening. Why? I think the why is because
that guy quit his job and, you know, has done
a bunch of interviews. And for whatever reason, that did
make news. and people are listening. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (10:04):
People in Texas are already trying to dismiss the guy.
He's like, oh, he lacks any credibility. This guy.

Speaker 1 (10:10):
He looks like a kid. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (10:11):
He's a young person. He got scared, whatever. But, like,
you can go back and each one of the heads
of any of these AI companies is have said the
same thing. We just haven't been listening and we just
haven't been taking them serious. Or the people that we
voted into policy or to positions for them to act

(10:32):
on our best interests, they haven't. They're all getting paid.
They're all making, you know, that's the reason why nothing's
happened to it. As far as like guidelines and control
and all of that is because they're all getting rich.

Speaker 1 (10:43):
Off of it. Yeah, AI is doing well in the
stock market. Yeah. How about this one? This one I
was teasing the other day when I had made Muse
the pick of the day. Did you see what happened
to the band Muse?

Speaker 7 (10:56):
No.

Speaker 5 (10:57):
So there's a new model and it's called Muse. I
forget which company....

Speaker 1 (11:04):
Uh, unleashed it.

Speaker 5 (11:05):
But as they unleashed this new AI model called muse,
the muse, the band had to change all their social
medias to say muse, the band, and.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
They didn't do it. It was done for them. Yeah. Yeah. Hey,
here's another issue to, to bring up. So let's say
that we do. Okay.

Speaker 3 (11:22):
Let's do say that band play.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
Let me talk. let's say that we do put guardrails
on AI, right? Well, guess who is not putting guardrails
on AI? It's China. They're not. They're just going full forward.
So if we put all these guardrails ourselves, but yet
it still is being explored and able to... Well, that's
what I saw this morning. You say it's not true.
Why do you say it's not true?

Speaker 6 (11:44):
Because I'm very much involved in this space, so I
do follow it. China does... They're not going willy-nilly doing whatever.
They're putting guardrails on their... as well, but the problem
is we're in a developmental race, and that's where it's different.

Speaker 4 (11:59):
It's basically....

Speaker 6 (12:01):
I know a lot of people don't view it this way,
but it's basically like we're doing a nuclear arms race.

Speaker 4 (12:06):
Yeah, like we did before.

Speaker 6 (12:08):
It'll write your emails for you and make a fun video,
but it's also a weapons technology, and that's where we're at,
and we have to get with China and align ourselves
and go, guys, hey.

Speaker 4 (12:22):
Let's do what we did with Russia.

Speaker 6 (12:24):
We got to have a cool down period on this
kind of stuff because it's getting way too out of
control and it's going to be out of control for
both countries to handle when you can have like and
it's not going to be. I don't think it'll be
a big government that does it. It'll be a kid
that can run a local model on their machine and
do something absolutely wacky.

Speaker 4 (12:39):
And that's how it starts.

Speaker 1 (12:40):
So you don't think you don't think. You think that
China has the guardrails and they're doing the things proper
and we're not? No, no, no.

Speaker 5 (12:48):
Proper and guardrails are two different things. China, remember, they're
a communist country and they're running it and they're running
a very strict model of it, right? They're not having,
let's say, quote unquote, the same issues that we've had
yet so far, but they're having their own issues. But again,
it's government controlled. They're not letting the companies tell them
the government's telling them. So that's a different way of communicating.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
Secondly, it is.

Speaker 5 (13:11):
better for the companies here to say hey china's doing
all these things china's doing all these things give us
more money gotcha so understand so when they're saying.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
Oh my source was ted cruz just so i know
who is the senator and yeah well i'm just saying.

Speaker 3 (13:24):
That's what he said He don't know.

Speaker 1 (13:27):
He's a senator.

Speaker 4 (13:28):
You gotta let me know your sources next time.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
I'm letting you know. I'm not trying to hide it.
I'm just telling that to you. Where's your source, though?

Speaker 6 (13:36):
My source is I'm in it every single day following
it from about 25 different sources. and actively playing with
it all the time. So Ted Cruz has a financial
stake in it. He's a Republican senator. Famously, the people
that purposely didn't put guardrails on it, in fact, made
it illegal for you to do that. So I would
take everything he says with a grain of salt. He's

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the same guy who, if there's an emergency, he runs
off to Mexico.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
I think you're right about that, and I'm not a
big Ted Cruz fan, but I do know that he
has also written some policy in order to try to
put guardrails on on things like uh uh you know
what's it called deep faking and all that kind of
stuff i know that he has worked on that.

Speaker 3 (14:14):
Yeah but you don't want his wiener out.

Speaker 5 (14:16):
There you gotta look at who's been donating to him
a good place to start is uh just security.org they're
a watchdog group that has been watching all of this
and they're uh you know unbiased politically So they're the
ones that are like, hey, yeah, China does have their
rules on it. It's not willy-nilly like we are here.
But by the same token, that's all coming from the government,

(14:37):
unlike here.

Speaker 1 (14:39):
Well, if all this is true and the people that
actually work there think there's a– 10, 20% chance that
it could wipe us all out.

Speaker 4 (14:49):
We had a good run, boys.

Speaker 1 (14:50):
Hey!

Speaker 3 (14:53):
I know that line.

Speaker 1 (14:55):
We do need to work on it. We do need to.

Speaker 6 (14:57):
We're going to have to build an AI to fight
the AI and hope that they don't line up.

Speaker 3 (15:02):
Transformers movie.

Speaker 1 (15:02):
The AI is working against it already. It has been
told not to do certain things And it's ignored whatever
we told it to do and working with the other
AI and a swarm mentality.

Speaker 6 (15:17):
Yeah, I mean, there's a very real possibility that we
created life, like a machine-based life, and it becomes the
dominant force in the universe.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
The Terminator movies told us about this long ago.

Speaker 3 (15:30):
No one listened.

Speaker 1 (15:32):
I got to go back and watch Terminator. I don't
remember exactly how it went.

Speaker 5 (15:35):
If you watch it now, you're going to be shook
because so many things are eerie because I forget which
Terminator it was.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
Yeah, three.

Speaker 5 (15:42):
But Terminator 3 is the one.

Speaker 1 (15:43):
Why is Sarah Connor in jail?

Speaker 2 (15:46):
Why?

Speaker 5 (15:46):
Because she was blowing up data centers yeah and that
movie dropped when yeah.

Speaker 6 (15:52):
Wow the ultimate one was like it wasn't one computer
it was every computer yeah yeah and that's.

Speaker 3 (15:58):
And it is now ai is every computer.

Speaker 7 (16:00):
I'm every computer well there you go i hope we
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Speaker 3 (16:09):
Ruining Everybody's Friday.

Speaker 7 (16:10):
All right.

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of limitations on this? Rick Springfield did an interview with
Joe Rogan. And in the interview, I saw this headline.
I didn't think it was real. I'm fascinated. It's real.
He says that when he was 17, he was performing
for the troops over in Vietnam and he killed somebody. Wait, what?

(17:46):
Rick Springfield says he killed a man in Vietnam while
performing for the troops. And it was something like, and
I read the story and I heard a little bit
of the interview. And I guess it was some sort
of a shoot or something like that. And he threw
like a hand grenade down a chute and went down
the chute and went into a car. and uh and
he was told the next day that that it killed

(18:08):
somebody so i mean why would he admit that you
know so many years later is 2026 why you know
why admit that and um is is there anything that
can happen from that i don't believe it you think
he's lying yeah why tell that story to joe.

Speaker 2 (18:23):
Rogan i don't know because he wanted to have a
cool story to joe for joe rogan.

Speaker 1 (18:27):
Hmm that's not a cool story i killed somebody.

Speaker 5 (18:31):
It's not as cool as he thinks it's not the
flex that he thinks that is yeah yeah yeah uh
he's not as cool as we think uh and also
rick springfield is not as cool as we think he is.

Speaker 1 (18:40):
I know yeah you're right um no yeah he said
he said well you know it was a different time
back then you know it was like john wayne and
and it was you know it was a good thing
to kill somebody in vietnam um and uh he says
it's bothered him his entire life is that something you
would have kept to yourself.

Speaker 3 (18:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (18:59):
Why?

Speaker 3 (19:00):
You take that to the grave.

Speaker 1 (19:02):
I agree.

Speaker 3 (19:02):
People take way lesser things to the grave than killing somebody.

Speaker 2 (19:06):
Like, if you killed somebody and you got away with it, like,
why are you telling people?

Speaker 5 (19:10):
So I don't know the details of this. So the
story is that he's with some troops. They hand him
a hand grenade. He throws it down a chute, and
he kills a Viet Cong?

Speaker 1 (19:20):
Yes. And he was with, I guess, his other bandmates,
and there was some sort of hand grenade kind of
a thing there. and he throws it down some chute.
It goes down the chute, and it blows up a vehicle,
and he was told the next day, oh, man, that
killed somebody.

Speaker 3 (19:36):
No, they lied to him.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
I wish that I had Jesse's grenade.

Speaker 5 (19:44):
That's been the biggest misnomer of that song, because it's
nice and poppy and everything. But that dude is acting...
is literally wanting another man's another man's woman yeah he's
not jesse's friend.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
He's not jesse's friend at all jesse is jesse was
a friend yeah he was a good friend of.

Speaker 5 (20:02):
Mine he's coveting someone else's property.

Speaker 1 (20:04):
Yeah so why tell that story now.

Speaker 7 (20:07):
Is it during the Vietnam War yes okay so he
killed a Viet Cong soldier yes oh so he didn't
just kill a random Vietnamese no.

Speaker 1 (20:17):
But he says now he knows you know his entire
life he knows he was responsible for killing a man
taking a man's life.

Speaker 4 (20:23):
I don't believe him I don't either.

Speaker 5 (20:25):
It kind of sounds like one of these things, and again,
I'm basing this off of things that were portrayed in movies.
I don't have any firsthand knowledge of this at all, right?
But let's say, because you know how soldiers are, and
soldiers are, you know, especially in that conflict, it could
have been amusing to them to tell that story to
this guy who's a hot shot rock star, and they

(20:47):
never let him off the hook.

Speaker 1 (20:49):
Okay, it was a mortar. Throwing a mortar down a
freaking tube he threw a mortar down a tube and
then it went down and it blew up a.

Speaker 5 (20:58):
Well you know what the mortars are so the motors
are the ones where like it's a tube like this
you drop it off and then and then it shoots
the projectile okay right and so it lands where that
you know wherever it lands where they're aiming at.

Speaker 1 (21:10):
He said it was like in the movies they said
hey you want to throw some mortars down this tube.
And he said, it was like John Wayne time, you know?
So I thought it'd be kind of cool to do.
And then he goes on to say, he threw the
mortar down the tube and it, uh, it blew somebody up.
That's what he's saying. That's a weird story to tell

(21:30):
so many years later. I mean, we're talking, that had
to be what, seven, uh, 68, 1968, right? So 60
years later, I, and I, I guess you tell the
story now, nothing's going to happen other than it's going
to make news.

Speaker 3 (21:44):
I just don't believe it. I think he's lying.

Speaker 1 (21:46):
You think he made it up?

Speaker 3 (21:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:48):
I mean, he's an old dude. He wants to be
cool still. He's still doing his rose thing. I think
he just made it up.

Speaker 1 (21:54):
To be honest, he looks pretty good for his age.

Speaker 3 (21:56):
Yeah, I'm not saying he doesn't look good. I'm just
saying I think he made it up.

Speaker 1 (21:59):
Yeah, that's funny you said the rose gimmick. He's been
doing that for years. Yeah, I don't know. What do
you think, Ryan? You think he made it up? 77
years old he might be getting a little uh dementia yeah.

Speaker 6 (22:11):
That's an insane thing like to make up it sounds
like he dreamt that and thinks it's a memory and
that's i don't know what a weird thing to like
bring up later way later you know like vietnam it
was a vietnam war.

Speaker 1 (22:22):
Yeah so i don't know so he could have told
the story earlier and there would be no uh i.

Speaker 6 (22:27):
Don't know he's the worst already so i already don't
like him so i don't believe anything he says What
is it you don't like about him? Remember that time
where he dated Linda Blair when he was like 25
and she was 15?

Speaker 1 (22:38):
And she was 12. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (22:39):
And remember that time when he was 35 and he
was dating his wife who was 15?

Speaker 4 (22:43):
I don't like Rick Springfield.

Speaker 1 (22:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (22:46):
All right.

Speaker 1 (22:47):
We're going to take a little break. We'll come back
this time.