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Speaker 1 (00:12):
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works out. I know it's a little bit of a
different way to we're gonna be. I think we're gonna
(00:34):
try to zoom in with her, I believe, but yeah,
scheduled to talk to her in this hour as well.
What is up? I am Russ Rowlins along with Angel Rivera.
And now it's time for the King of Denmark Ran
Holmes to make his daily proclamation.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
They get away, boys, It's time for the daily proclamation
to the King with the teenish nation.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
That's all way.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
He never brought to you by that mortgage guy. Done
from that mortgage guy.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Don dot come. A lot of people get upset with me.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Why why would anyone be upset with you?
Speaker 2 (01:39):
When I talk about my mother on the radio, They say,
Ryan one day, your mom isn't gonna be here and
you're gonna miss her, and I will, but that doesn't
mean she doesn't do crazy things.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
And this one takes the cake.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
I don't know what to do about this right now,
and I look legit need help, So fellas well, that's
what we're here for.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Listen up. So I have a dog.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Her name's Dakota, but I call her Cody because he's
a little kod kod and I love that dog.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Well, Cody.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
You know, like dogs need another dog, you know what
I mean, Like it's it's hard to have just one dog,
and she needs a friend.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
I've been saying this for a long time. She needs
a friend.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
You know. I never knew like growing up, I always
had one dog. It never occurred to me. But it
is nice when you got the two. They can play
with each other and they can you know, So having
two is good.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Yes, But I wanted to get a dog because you
have to feel out a dog.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Like when I got my dog, I saw her. There
was a there's a whole pan of dogs. I didn't like.
Five out of the six dogs, we know which one
I liked. My dog that I got. There's just a bond,
there's a feeling that happens, and it goes agreed. So
Friday afternoon happens.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Now my mom knows that I've been wanting to get
a second dog, but Friday she goes calls me out.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
She goes, Hey, Ryan, can I come pick up Cody?
Speaker 2 (03:14):
And I'm like, yeah, what for She's like, oh, out
in Brooksville, there's a lady that's given away a Border
Collie and I've always had border Collars, right Like, my
last two dogs were Border Callers, and I love them,
but they are a lot.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
They're one of the smartest dogs, but they're.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
One of the most active dogs. High energy. These dogs
can jump six feet. Yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
And I've realized in my life, I'm not a high
energy dog person.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Right Like, I've realized, like I need a dog that's chill,
af like the dog that just doesn't always need to
go for three walks a day, you.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Know what I mean, Like a dog that's That's what
I wanted. A corgy because they're a little chunky, fat Okay,
they're like cats, but they're dogs.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
And Cody has puppy energy, but she's not the most
rambunctious dog in the world, and.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
I like that about her. Mom's like, I'm gonna check
out this dog in Brooksville.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
And I'm like, I'm like for me. She's like, no, well,
if you don't like it, you know, I'll keep the dog.
And I'm like, okay, let's see what's happening here.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
So she goes out to Brooksville, where Christina's family's from,
and she starts sending me messages of this dog and
I'll show you this dog.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
And she's just like a cute little border collie. Look
at that. This dog is two years old. Okay, adorable.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
It's adorable, Russ. But like I'm telling my mom, I'm like, mom,
do not get a dog. Do not bring a dog
back here?
Speaker 4 (05:00):
Who wants to go to a sweet hall?
Speaker 3 (05:01):
So this dog lives on a farm and this lady
has a farm dog. Oh yeah, oh yeah, it's living
on a farm. It's actual herding dog, firm farm dog,
farm dog.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Apparently the problem with this dog and the reason like
she doesn't want to keep this dog is this dog.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Hurting instinct isn't as good. So it's like it's more
it's more of a house dog.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
She wants to imagine.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
It's a girl. Her name, her name is Darcy.
Speaker 5 (05:28):
This is an animated movie already ready to be made.
The hurting dog that's not good at her wants.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
To throw the ball again.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Oh that's all Darcy wants to do. This is all
Darcy wants to do. Because this this whole video, she
just stares at the ball the whole time. My Mom's
sending me these videos and I'm like, Mom, not bring
the dog home. Do not bring the dog home. And
she keeps playing this move. She's like, but I'll keep
the dog, and I want to I want. My mom
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lives in an apartment.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
Look at that big ass piece of property.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
Yes, dogs like this need a huge yard. And I
have a big backyard, for sure.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
You got a big backyard. You don't have a huge
a huge, but.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
You're throwing ball all day long.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
So what does my mom do?
Speaker 2 (06:15):
And much the way she constantly does this, which is
it completely ignores how I feel.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Boundaries are not her strong suit.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Guess what, Darcy's coming over.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
And it's even worse because I told you, she brought
the dog, right, So she brought my dog. And so
there's video of my dog, Cody playing with this dog
and they're they're having a grand old time just out
on the farm, run.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Around, chasing each other, doing the whole thing.
Speaker 5 (06:45):
So, like, you're getting the wrong message from this, Ryan,
what's that? The message that you should get from this
is that you need to get a farm.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Look at the dog's playing.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
Yeah, look at that.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
I know you need to get a farm. That's what
you need, dogs playing, So sell your house, get a farm.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
So my mom comes over with the new dog, Darcy,
which I hate the name, but the dog's two years old.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
I wouldn't even be able to change the name.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
That's you got to slowly change and just start calling
her Dah.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
So Mom brings the dog over, and I'm like, I'm
not gonna like this dog. I'm I'm I go into
this going like it right because I was you. I
want to pick my own dog, and I'm not gonna
like this dog. I don't want a high energy dog.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Man.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
And she brings the dog. She brings the dog over
the house, and it's then Cody's super happy because she's
like like, oh, my friend from the farmers here.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
Oh God.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
And this dog, when I tell you, all it wants
to do is play ball. I can see that I've
never seen a dog like My dog's very food driven.
This dog is very treat driven or a very toy driven,
and so like she will come to you, set the
ball on the ground and then like a Japanese person,
for hours stare up at you and look at the ball.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
And all this dog wants. To make this dog happy
is to just throw the ball for hours hours.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
I threw the ball for hours the other day.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
But arm hurts now because of it. And that's what
I But I love this dog.
Speaker 6 (08:20):
I hate it.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
I was gonna say, I you're gonna.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Lie, damn it.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
That's adorable dog.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
It is an adorable dog.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Now you go, You're never gonna go anywhere.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Now, here's here's my mom. Yesterday.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Mom comes over and I'm like, okay, now I'm feeling
a way about this dog.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
But I'm like, you have to take you back home.
I can't. I'm not letting the dog sleep here because
I have to.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
I can't let my emotions get involved, you know what
I mean, Like I have to, like, look at it. Logically,
border Collies are a high energy, highly needy dog, and
this was this would happen to Choe if I wouldn't
give Chloe like two walks a day minimum.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
She gets very bored, They act out, they get depressed.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
What are you doing that you couldn't have give got
Chloe two walks a day.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
I would give her two walks a day.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
But I'm saying, like, say, say something happened where like
maybe we had an event or something like that, and
she didn't get that walk.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Put you over there and puff and puff and be sad.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
So you can look that dog in the anger. You
can't stay here?
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Does that make me heartless?
Speaker 7 (09:25):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (09:25):
I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Yes, I don't think you're the dog Chloe or no kod.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Found her friend.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Yeah, sorry, your friend can't stay over.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
That's all.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
My wife keeps sending me pictures of the dog, which
is worse. So there's there's the dog chilling at.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
My house, just just like you just tease her. You're like, hey,
look at that.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
They made friends and they're chilling.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
Now you're not gonna let my friends stay over, You're heartless.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
This dog is surprisingly chilling, and she's so well trained
because the lady who has the farm that she trained
all her dogs for agility, so like the dogs already
knows all the commands. She knows her name, knows all
the commands, this house broken. There's not a lot of
downside to this.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
And then other than like I wanted to pick my dog, Well, you.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
Need to let go of that.
Speaker 5 (10:14):
That's a you thing. You you your mom to come
to terms with that. Your mom found you a cool dog.
Every now and then like you got to get props
to mom done this. I thought to be on my
side here, Absolutely not. And then the second part about
about this and people are already texting the sin you're
not thinking through this all the way in the sense
of now you can get cool toys and one of
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them is the automatic ball launcher.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Yeah, you teach the dog and just go put the
put it in the launcher and it'll throw it for it.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
And that's a thing.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Yeah, yeah, it's plug it in.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
It's a game changer.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Guys.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Yeah, I don't know. I feel like I'll always think like,
this won't be my dog.
Speaker 6 (10:53):
It is.
Speaker 5 (10:54):
See, you got the You get to let these things
get in your head and you overthink them. Enjoy the
moment mom thought of you. She saw a really cool dog.
She thought the dog was gonna be friends with your
current dog because you mentioned that you needed another dog.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
There's a reason why. Like, Okay, let me break it
down like this.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
If I get out of a relationship, like like back
in the day, would like let's say a brunette, I
then won't date another brunette because said person will remind
me of last person. This dog, being a Border Collie,
reminds me of Chloe a lot, and then it makes
me miss Chloe.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
But love that dog. And overtime, this dog is gonna
help you get over that. This is a therapy dog.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
And my wife keeps saying she looks like Jeene Simmons
from Kiss. He's black, he got the black and white face.
I'm gonna have this, dude, enjoy the moment. Your dog's
got a buddy. Now you got to You even said
you needed two dogs. Is it too late to change
the name though, from Darcy to somebody?
Speaker 5 (11:52):
Well you can't, but you gotta start with like, instead
of saying Darcy, start just calling her doll and then
gar and then go and then just go to d
and then somewhere on the along the line, the next
name is going to have to be a d because
she understands.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
That what do you want to call the dog?
Speaker 4 (12:04):
Devil?
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Go away.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
You like the dog, you just don't like the fact
your mom did something without your permission.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
No, I like the dog, but again I can't. I
don't live a high energy dog lifestyle. And that's the
real answer. But I also now feel like I would
be a terrible human being if I send this dog
back to the farm in Brooksville.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
True, that's true.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
Not only would you feel like that, you would be
one what does what.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Does Christina want?
Speaker 3 (12:31):
She wants the dog, the dog grew she She's with me,
we're a team.
Speaker 6 (12:37):
But the dog.
Speaker 5 (12:39):
I bet you, I bet you a dollar that your
wife to watch the dog. She's sending you pictures of
the dogs. They are laying together.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Well, they eventually called. There was this period of time
where they were like insane together.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
Yes, they just met each other.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Well because she because she came into Cody's house, you
know what I mean. And it took a while, uh
for them to figure it out.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
They figured it out.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
They'll relax.
Speaker 5 (13:06):
You know what it is, Russ, is that Ryan is
completely outnumbered in his home. Now it's all females versus.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Yeah, honestly that is a bit of a problem as well.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
That's the Texters.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
I just yeah, like Bo and Beth play played played,
you know at first, and then now it's just every
once in a while, you know, like they hang out
with each other. But it's not like it's constant.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
It's funny though, because I always thought, like my dog
Cody was fast. You know, I throw a ball and
she and she sounds like a horse clumping as she
does it. I'm like, Wow, I got the fastest dog
in the world. Nope, this dog is so eff and fast.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
It's on the farm. She's been training. My god. So
I say, the biggest takeaway from this, Ryan is that
you need to buy a farm.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Yeah, I guess. So I have two dogs now, I
guess eventually. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
I have to go.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
I have to decide today.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
I need you to. This is a decision. It's already done.
Speaker 5 (13:56):
So she projecting on you because, like I said, hanging
out with my daughter yesterday and I heard I were
talking about it and one of the things that we
do miss is miss farm life. So that if you
do get a farm, we need you to get a
couple donkeys. We need to get Yeah, we need to
get a couple of cows. And then on the weekends,
we'd help you, you know, clean stalls and stuff like that.
Gus get chicken coop.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
I need to find a deal on a farm.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Yeah, well I thought you guys would be a little
bit more like, yeah, that's razy. Just have a thought
that yeah, yeah, I agree with me, and be like,
well that is wacky that someone just dropped.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
A dog off.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
No, that's awesome.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
It would be.
Speaker 5 (14:34):
It would be another thing if they didn't get along.
How look how happy Cody was.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Well, if I need to buy a farm, I guess
I can contact that mortgage guy Don from that mortgage
guy Don dot com. I don't know if he does
farm mortgages. Is it a different mortgage. I have no
idea what he knows.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Uh So that's who I want to talk to, is
that mortgage guy Don traditional mortgages refines me lost, whatever.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
It might be.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
He's like a dog in your corner man, and he's
a I'll get that mortgage for you or small business
loan as well.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
I gotta buy some sheep now or something I don't know,
to teach this dog to herd. That's the movie.
Speaker 5 (15:07):
I gotta says, get some miniature coats for your backyard,
because they'll mow the lawn.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
There you go, get some coats.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
This is how this is how my whole life is.
Everything just happens to me.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
I never get to decide whether whether it's in like
dating life, like my dating life worked like that for
like the longest time, or some girl would just walk
and be like, we're together now, and I'm like, all right,
I guess.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
So that's how dogs have been too. Every cat.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
I've never bought a cat. I've had four cats because
the cat's just like I live here now.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
I'm like, I guess you do.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Don't miss the boat A pair quote with that mortgage
guy done, and so it shall be all right.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
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a little bit later on. Are you are you buying
a farm? Now? Are you gonna get a farm for
your dogs.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
So now that you and I can't accessorize my dog
with a.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Farm, one dog means you got to buy a whole
farm my backyard. Big.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
It'll be fun. We'll work it out.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
I'm gonna get another dog, Like I gotta stop letting
stuff just happen to men. I gotta take the reins
of my own life, yeah and start like make control.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Yeah, don't let her. Nobody can bully you. Sorry.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
This dog is so cute though it's obnoxiously cute dog,
which is one of the more frustrating things about it.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
I kind of wish I hated the dog, to be honest,
it would mean way easier.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Why would you want to hate the dog, because then
I don't have to have a second dog, even though
I want a second dog. Like to the lady that
text in said, like get a beagle or Bassett hounds.
Something that's lazy. That's something that's like more furniture than dog,
like if like if a if a if a footstool
was happy to see me.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
That's kind of what I want. Right, So your dogs
are pretty active dogs though, right.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Yeah, the one is getting older now.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
He doesn't let me tell you the other thing. I
just thought of it. You have dogs, you have you
have hold on Angel, you have matching dogs.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Yeah, both our dogs are our canaan, right, and they
sort of look like each other.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Yeah, my dogs don't match, and that bothers me.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
That would freak me out little.
Speaker 8 (17:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Yeah, I don't know why that bothers me match, but
it does. I need I kind of need them to match.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
So I know that's a stupid thing, but it feels
like it matters.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Angels trying to hook up. What we're trying to talk
to Amanda Knox. We've not used this particular service before,
so instead of them calling us, we had to call them.
And he's trying to hook it up. Is that her?
Then on the line, I will say this, So I was,
we're getting ready to talk to Amanda Knox. There are
like six or seven different documentaries, movies, I mean, all
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these different you know, outlets about this particular story. And
I went back and watched the Amanda Knox Story, the
documentary from twenty sixteen, and it's pretty amazing and how
she really got wrongfully convicted, wrongly, wrongly convicted of murdering
her roommate and she's been exoning right it. I mean,
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like you know, and when you're watching the documentary, you're
you're going, well, yeah, she didn't do it, like it
didn't see in the documentary, it didn't seem like she
did it, you know. Yeah, but she had to spend
time in an Italian prison.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Yeah, and you get to see, like, I don't know,
it's probably very normal for them and then to us.
To them, our legal system seems wacky, but their legal
system seems like extra.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Wacky over there in Italy. There are rules and like.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
What you can do, and like you can like every
time somebody makes a statement about you, you're allowed to
instantly refute that. Yeah, it was, And I think that
hurt her in the long run because she was, you know,
not skilled. Hey, she's speaking a language that she's not
her first language.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Well, and then some of the nuances of some of
the things. There's one example where she was texting back
and forth with somebody I think it was the girl
that was murdered, and she said, Okay, see you later,
and then the police they were like, see you said
right there you were going to see her later, and
like no, like that's just like see you later and
not believe you know it? Really? Who have her on
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the line? Okay, on the line with us right now,
we have Amanda Knox. Hello, Amanda, how you doing?
Speaker 5 (19:36):
Hi there?
Speaker 3 (19:36):
Great?
Speaker 7 (19:37):
How are you?
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Oh my gosh. I went back when I found out
we were interviewing you. I went back and watched the
document and I know there's so many documentaries and it's
been so but I feel for you so much that
the one I saw was from twenty sixteen. And man, okay,
so out of all the documentaries and movies that have
been made about your incredibly sad story, like, which one
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do you do you think actually what was more correct?
Got it right the most?
Speaker 6 (20:07):
So?
Speaker 7 (20:07):
Yeah, I mean the Netflix documentary did a great job
just unpacking on from a journalistic standpoint, what are the
actual facts of this case and how did the media
story unfold. I've been really proud to work on some
more recent projects like The Twisted Tale of Amanda Knox,
which is not a documentary, it's a Hulu series where
there's an actress playing me, but I work. I executive
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produced that series. I co wrote the final episode, and
so it really goes in depth into what it was
like for me to go through that experience as it
was happening, And then more recently a really awesome documentary
that came out just this January is called Mouth of
the Wolf, and it's about my return back to Italy
to confront my prosecutor, so to go back, sit in
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a room with him and have a sit down confrontation,
to go what the heck right right, and confront him with.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
It about it because I'm in Like, I would just
point out one little thing that I saw, and there
were you you it's texting someone and you said, hey,
I'll see you later or see you you know, I
think see you later or something like that, and the
police were like, see, there was proof that you were
going to go meet him later. And that's just like
a thing that we say in America. Like how much
of the translation was a problem, do you think?
Speaker 7 (21:25):
Yeah, there were definitely lost in translation moments, there were
cultural misunderstandings. But I think what's most egregious about my
own wrongful conviction is that there's no confusion about what
actually happened. If you know the facts of the case.
There is a local burglar who broke into our home,
raped and murdered my roommate, then fled the country. His
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DNA is all over the crime scene. It's a very
clear cut case. And so the fact, like the fact
that there's any confusion, any lingering confusion or controversy around
what happened, shows how pow orful storytelling is. Because the
story of a murder orgy orchestrated by me like just
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captured the public imagination. And so for me now, as
somebody who doesn't just tell my own case but is
attempting to understand and help tell other people's stories, those
are like little red flags immediately go up when I hear, oh,
we have one hunt like this, like a very sensational
story is emerging, but the facts aren't there to sustain it, right,
(22:34):
And that's what I'm attempting to do in this new podcast,
which is called Doubt. The case of Lucy let Be,
where another young woman who has no history of violence
and no motive to commit any crime whatsoever, nobody saw
her commit any kind of harm, is being accused of
murdering babies in a hospital and is now facing fifteen
(22:54):
life sentences in prison.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
And good for you for you know, for doing this,
and for me with all you've been through. I don't
know how you kept your head about you. How difficult
was it to be able to? I mean you did
have to spend time in prison for a while, didn't you.
Speaker 9 (23:12):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 7 (23:13):
I was in prison for four years, on trial for
eight years. And there were absolutely times where I thought
I was losing my mind, where I contemplated suicide, like
it was an overwhelming existential crisis situation, and I had
no guarantee that I would be vindicated and freed at all,
And so it was very My life was turned inside
(23:35):
out and upside down. And it's not the same. It's
not like I could go back and be an anonymous
college student again once it's over. Like I am forever,
you know, branded with being associated with a crime that
I had nothing to do with. And I, in the
face of that, I have a choice. I can either
hide and pretend like that didn't happen, or I can
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do the thing that I've always done, which is confront
everything that scares me head on.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
And you and obviously you have you have empathy for
someone who could be in your same situation. That's why
the podcast that you're talking about now, that is it out?
Speaker 6 (24:11):
Now?
Speaker 3 (24:12):
You people can start here?
Speaker 7 (24:13):
Yes, okay, Well, the first episode is out now. It's
available on iHeartRadio. There are going to be ten episodes
because it's a case that it's again multiple you know,
deaths that are talked about, and it's it involves a
lot of intricate medical evidence and statistical reasoning and so
(24:33):
it's really involved. But it's a worthwhile story to tell
because specifically it's not like identical to my case. It's
more typical of a wrongful conviction of women where it's
not even certain that any crime occurred in the first place.
And that's where it's really scary that like somebody's entire
(24:54):
life can be completely just stopped. You're you're in prison
for the rest your life and no crime even occurred.
And that's where like my interest in how we as
a society struggle to grapple with grief and outrage and
the presumption of innocence when it's emotionally charged cases. That
(25:18):
has an impact on judicial outcomes because it affects our
ability to rationally evaluate facts.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Right Home's question for Amanda Ox, Amanda, like, obviously you
went through like the worst possible thing in your life.
In this podcast is about something that's happened to the
same person as well. How do you come to terms
with the fact that this, like is entertainment for people.
I remember watching your documentaries and the movie while I'm
sitting there eating cut above a spaghetti is that how
(25:46):
do you rationalize that?
Speaker 7 (25:49):
Yeah, it's not an easy thing because it does feel icky.
Speaker 10 (25:53):
Like.
Speaker 7 (25:53):
I think one of the things that's really troubled me
for a long time is that the reason why I
ended up being in prison for so long in the
first place was because the idea of me orchestrating a
murder orgy was titillating to people, and that really bothered me.
That the worst experience of my life could be titillating
(26:16):
and even fun for people to consume, and the impact
that that has had on my life. At the same time,
I truly think that, if I'm really honest, I don't
think people approach true crime cases just out of morbid curiosity.
I think there is like a deep feeling that we
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all have that we want justice to be served, and
we do empathize in a way with the people who
are at the center of these stories. Want we want
the right outcomes for the right people, and so I
try to embrace that fact and how truth seeking is
in the public interest. It's in everybody's interest to be
(26:59):
truth seeing, and so I just think that there are
ways of approaching these really sensitive stories that are not
just exploitative. It's like, I think that you can do
this work in a way that is helpful as opposed
to hurtful. But you're right, like, there are lots of
scenarios of people just mass producing content based upon these
(27:22):
cases for no like it doesn't seem like they're doing
it for any other purpose other than to make money
off of it, and that is where it becomes questionable.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Amanda Knox hosts Doubt the Case of Lucy let Be
and you can get it on iHeartRadio. Aman, thank you
for taking time to talk to us, and once again,
you know, I just I commend you for you know,
being able to fight forward and also to try to
help other people with what you're doing. I think that's
I think that's awesome.
Speaker 7 (27:50):
Well, thank you so much. Thanks for the opportunity to
talk about it.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
There you go, Amanda Knox. All right, we'll take a
little break. When we come back, we'll play your your
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Speaker 3 (28:52):
Okay, Yeah, figured out to sing at that time, Live
your best life.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
Man. I like to switch things up every once in
a while.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
In jail, do what you want.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Yeah, she spent four years in jail for a Yeah,
pretty incredible story. I'll probably go and watch the movie
that she said that one on Netflix. Yeah, yeah, I
watched the documentary. But she said that there's a movie
where someone else plays. Oh yeah, she said, it's pretty good.
Do we have any hot takes or messages today? We do.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
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Speaker 3 (29:32):
What a weird Tenon's I just made out of my face.
Let's see hot day, Russ, Uncle Russ, Daddy Russ.
Speaker 10 (29:43):
We need to sit in on this National Women's Awareness
Day and ref these ladies or it's going to turn
into National cat Fight Awareness Day.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
I just smell it coming, man.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
You know what. I'm there. I'm there to support. I'm
not gonna get in the I'm not going to cause
a problem. I'm there to support. Anyway. Savannah wants help,
I'll help her.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
Hot Did you guys hear that the kod is growing up?
Speaker 11 (30:11):
He just realized that most of the decisions on line
aren't made for you at all. You get to make
maybe twenty percent of the decisions in your life. Everything
else just kind of happens or falls into place right,
kind of like how you.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Just got that dog.
Speaker 11 (30:24):
That dog is now yours, Ryan, that dog is now yours.
Speaker 4 (30:27):
All right, you need a farm. I'm telling you you
get Yeah. I need you to get a farm. I've
got a list of getting a farm.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
Got a dog?
Speaker 1 (30:34):
You need a farm?
Speaker 3 (30:35):
You need a farm, not getting a farm.
Speaker 4 (30:37):
There's a couple of farms that they're selling with cow.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
I dream about having a farm every show, you know,
like I think about it, but like when it really
comes down to it, I'm not a farm guy.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
I'm a city You're a farm guy.
Speaker 5 (30:47):
Not the guy from a pop gun very far to
look one. Look at you, yeah, look at that city slicker,
exactly place to be.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
Can I get farm guys that got.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
The farm stad and then like like a farm hand
that helps out there, I gotta worry about him, like
trying to bang my wife doing that.
Speaker 4 (31:05):
You got a farm volunteer and his kid.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
Okay, I'd love free labor. Yeah, my nephews make me
pay them.
Speaker 5 (31:11):
We're only gonna be, you know, able to help out
on the weekends. But that'll give us our farm fas.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
Okay, there you go. Let's see hot egg.
Speaker 6 (31:19):
Yes, I was the one that put my little bitty
hand on Ryan's little tiny waist at the yard. I
just want to say, ladies, you ain't missing anything good.
After I looked over and saw what I saw, it
was very embarrassing.
Speaker 12 (31:33):
It would be like me going to the grocery store
and putting food out of it buying a conveyor bilt
and paying for two small little chickpeas and a baby care.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
Okay, get out of here, ridiculous. Stop touching people. Keep
your hands to yourself. Hot theg rad the driver here, Ryan,
keep the dog.
Speaker 12 (31:54):
Christina is gonna need another dog to keep her company
while you healing up in the hospital.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
From honest to one tumbling you down. That can prom
me where it's on the same team.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
Yeah, you're his manager.
Speaker 6 (32:07):
Hit you.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
He obviously sees potential, and Tim.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
Is his kind of man.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
Hot the.
Speaker 13 (32:16):
Good morning monsters. Morning Ryan, it's ginger beat. So my
advice to you is, honey, get a basket all I'm
on my third one. They're really sweet, super lazy. So
I wanted too late, I say sweet, Yeah, definitely yeah,
and they'll wait for you all want.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
They will not go get a ball.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Good never.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
You will never go get a ball.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
You already have two dogs. You can't send that dog
back to the farm.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
I can't.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
That would make you the most.
Speaker 4 (32:48):
Your only option is to get a third dog.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
No, then I'm a dog person that smells like dogs
like that.
Speaker 4 (32:56):
But if you get the third dog with the farm,
then then you just smell like farm.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
I'm just at the point where Cody's graduating, you know
from Darryl Paynes, Pope.
Speaker 4 (33:05):
Are you take the new dog to school?
Speaker 3 (33:07):
I gotta get this dog trained up too, now.
Speaker 4 (33:09):
All this dogs, she's gonna love school.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
Can I just show up with Darryl and be like, hey, Darryl,
can you give me a buy one, get one?
Speaker 3 (33:15):
If it works like that?
Speaker 2 (33:17):
But Daryl did such a good dog with Cody, because
you guys got understand Cody's such a good dog now,
like she does all the things.
Speaker 4 (33:23):
She's gonna teach the farm dog.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
Yeah, Hot take Friday, Friday Friday.
Speaker 14 (33:30):
In just four days, Real Radio one oh four point one,
we'll be hosting the Lady Monsters in the morning. And
you don't understand how much we all are going to
enjoy this train wreck. Hopefully it's not they're gonna crush it,
but for entertainment purposes, let's hope.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
It is sirrels. They're gonna be fine. Probably Hot Tag.
Speaker 9 (34:00):
Bryan Holmes, Matt Doolittle. Here, I have the perfect idea
for a Tuna tim costume. I'm an eleven year veteran
of Halloween horror nights. Help my dad put on Macbeth
in the buff. I know how to do entertainment, and
just reach out to me. You've already got my contact
in for please, please, for the love of baby Christmas,
(34:20):
let me help you with this tuna tim outfit.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
All right, I'll hit you up, man, We'll see, We'll
see how it goes.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
I do need to redesign the costume because I'm not
wearing that stinky asbestos mask again.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
And you've been in front of thousands of people on
Earthday Birthday. Yeah, and Angel, you and I will be
doing the hosting word. We got it.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
Let's see, Hot take why.
Speaker 10 (34:41):
Is this thing high Riyan, It's me, Jenny, You're bully.
It was me your waist, your tight little waist, and
your little skinny jeans.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
I don't wear skinny jeans anymore, first of all, and
it's funny if people remember Jenny forgot about it. Who
should have made her fake name? To be honest with you,
I should have picked any name but her actual name.
Speaker 8 (35:04):
Hot Eggs Russ as a very amateur bass angler over
here in winter Haven. If you put on a tournament
on the chain, I would definitely be down. However, five
thousand dollars maybe a little steep.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
No, no, no, but that's just for that's for the
bass masters.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
Yeah, that's that's that's prob we're doing.
Speaker 4 (35:26):
No.
Speaker 5 (35:27):
No, I don't know if you got this text, Ryan,
but there is an AE who was interested in having
this conversation after the show.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
Oh really yeah yeah? Oh yeah, so yeah, it just
happens to me.
Speaker 4 (35:39):
Yeah, so we're just we're an attraction on this thing.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
Hell yeah, all right. Sometimes the things that happen to
me are good things, you know what I mean?
Speaker 5 (35:47):
Remember, Russ doesn't want to up any part of this.
It'll just show up day off.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
No, if someone's willing to do all the work, I'm in.
But but when everyone's looking at me to.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
Do all the work, I'm like, well you don't you
want it to be good? Hot?
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Ryan?
Speaker 6 (36:06):
What?
Speaker 8 (36:06):
Ryan?
Speaker 1 (36:06):
What gloss here?
Speaker 2 (36:08):
Hey?
Speaker 1 (36:08):
And I too own a border Collie and that dog.
Speaker 14 (36:11):
Is so smart. He's smarter than most of the humans
I interact dog.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
You can tell it's a shame, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
But I'll tell you this. I did not choose to
own that border Collie. That border Collie chose to own me.
Speaker 11 (36:25):
Uh. It's pretty amazing, how affectionate and how beneficial they
are in your life.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
Embrace the random pal. Darcy's yours forever.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
Can't be Darcy. That's like an old lady's name.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
Yeah, that's a lame name. That's not a good name.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
But I gotta tell you though, it's I love Cody.
I love little Cody so much. Cody's my dog. Love Cody.
But you can tell when these two dogs are next
to each other that Cody is way dumber.
Speaker 4 (36:49):
Oh yeah, yeah, this, Like I feel bad.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
Look she's not listening right now, hopefully, but like you,
the intelligence level just in the eyes of this dog,
it's so much more superior.
Speaker 3 (37:01):
It's crazy what's.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
Sitting there with the r two dogs, the bow the
older dog, much more intelligent than than the best, the
new puppy, Like she's like dumb, dumb azl But I
love her.
Speaker 4 (37:12):
Okay, yeah, but it's a poppy up against the Yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
Yeah, Well the dog's only one year older than Cody.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
This dog's two years old. But it's the difference. But
but that's the thing about Bordercos, certain breeds of dogs.
They're just smart ass dog.
Speaker 4 (37:24):
Yeah, but she's got she's farm smart. She's not city
slicker smart.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
Cody's is dump. I love her, but she's a dumb dog.
She's I guess you don't speak human. Who's good girl, Cody?
Good girl, Cody, You're a little good girl.
Speaker 4 (37:38):
That was just for Cody.
Speaker 3 (37:39):
Hot take. Hey, guys, hope you guys doing well. You
guys are talking about TV shows.
Speaker 5 (37:44):
I don't know if you guys are watching season two
of Hijack on Apple TV and Paradise on Hulu.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
Both of those are really good shows.
Speaker 4 (37:54):
I gotta get back.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
I had seen, uh season one of Hijacked, I didn't know,
and two is out.
Speaker 5 (38:01):
There's a bunch of good stuff on Apple for all
Mankind is getting ready to launch season five.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
That's a good show.
Speaker 4 (38:07):
Yeah, I like that.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
And those rest are the hot taste.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
Thank you very much. Hey, reminding you once again that
if you, if you know, anyone has their kids that
are an a choir, or you got friends that are
in a choir and your choir would like to sing
on stage with Foreigner, Well, guess what, we have a contest.
We're gonna pick four choirs and the audience will decide
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(38:31):
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That's real radio Monsters dot com and it's got all
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Speaker 2 (39:26):
Also, I would like to make a public apology too
to Fritz why his wife is named Darcy. Oh, but again,
Darcy's not a dog name I don't like. That's just
not a good dog name. Sorry forritty, I love you,
just got yeah, there you go.
Speaker 4 (39:45):
Just let Travis bully him to thinking. Not to worry
about that.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
I forgot about this.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
Stay duned for the news Jackey right after the Monsters.
Then at three o'clock is the Jim Colbert Show. We're
back tomorrow to do our thing from Angel.
Speaker 4 (39:54):
And Ryan the Leader That's not Up, Mary man Ross,
whole lot of world to broke.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
Hey, guys, thank you, thank you so much for listening.
We ain't gotta go home. We gotta get a head.
Speaker 4 (40:03):
Look going out of here.
Speaker 3 (40:04):
Swirls m