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It's the Classic Gardens and Landscape Showon the Halm. Ready and when you
want show up plants and grass togrow. Two docent Chris christ and Chris
No, Chris knows it, Chrisknows in. Chris knows it. Chris

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knows it. Chris knows it.Chris knows it. Sure, Chris knows
it. Chris knows it. Andnow you're a host. Chris Joyner and
Chris Keith. Good morning, welcomeClassic Guards, the last game show with
W E. R C. I'mChris Keith, I'm Chris Joinner. I
hope everybody's doing fine and dandy.A little chilly outside today, Chris Keith.

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But spring is spring is coming here? Yeah, it's what's just say
it springs here, springs here,It's here. So it was here last
week my opinion after Valentine's Day.Springs it's here. You know, might
as well say what you could tellby the way the phone's are ringing,
man, Yeah, what I mean? It never fails this time of year.

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You know, we get up inthe you know, mid up or
sixties for a week, you know, and everybody we gave the landscape Estimate
two. You know, over thelast two months, they all bite on
it, all it once. Iwant it now, which I don't.
Can you get here? Everybody.Everybody's been cooped up, you know,

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in the in the house and thecold, and now you know you can
get a pretty day or two.I mean we had a pretty week.
Yeah, and uh man, itjust gets It's like a revival, you
know what I'm saying. Like everybodystarts getting pumped up and ready to go.
I mean, we're heck, we'rewe're through the February and then we're
halfway through it already, Blint,we're gonna blinking it'll be March. Well.
I mean you look at all theall the stuff. When we did

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our last live show, Chris,we were talking about, you know,
seeing the first daffer deal or twostarting to pop, you know, and
now you know every year this timeof year, might got a birthday in
a couple of days, and andit's, uh, it's kind of like
when Mike's birthday rolls around. Thedaffodils are in full bloom every year,
and sure enough, and you alwayslook at daffodils and you every year you

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say, man, they sure havewe got a bumper crop of daffodils.
This year. You know, Idon't think you could screw up a Dafael.
You know. It's some plants.Uh, you know, you look
out there right now and there's saucerMagnoi's and bloom, you know, and
that that freeze the night of burnthose blooms off. You know, some
of the later blooming varieties that yougot, like An's and you got jans.

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The jans bloom earlier and the antsbloom a little later, you know,
so the ones and you got theones that bloom now they're not either
or you know, they they startblooming like way too early. You know.
It's like you see some cherries bloomingright now, and uh, those
those are the way too early ones. But then you got the next crop

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of magnolia is at a bloom aboutthe same time the dogwoods do. And
most of the time, you know, I would say one out of four
years you get like a super goodblooming season out of them, and then
you know they really just uh,the the other three out of four they
get the blooms burned off too.So it's a shame. My granddad had

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had some big, big Magnoias inhis one next to the driveway. One
by the chicken pen and they wouldbe fabulous this time of year. I
mean you couldn't see the stick thatyou couldn't see the branches through the blooms
type of thing. And then everyyear, I mean overnight they get they
get nipped and those blooms and fallright off. Yeah, beautiful for it.
But it's three days. Yeah,but it's just it is a reminder

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that I mean we're coming into thecoming into the spring, and and time
to get out in the yard anddo some stuff, you know, after
I guess last weekend it was oneof those weekends we didn't have anything to
do, and that's that's very rare, yeah, with all the kids.
But I took the opportunity and cutthe grass and picked up sticks, and
I'm going through my backyard. I'mlike, man, something smells fantastic.

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What is that? I got awinter I got one winter honeysuckle. And
let me tell you that winter honeysuckle. That's the only thing that's good for
that's the only thing that's good forit. It's not it's not a pretty
plant, you know, it's justa when you plant it and when it
grows, it just looks like abig old grubby shrub. But man,
it smells fantastic and they are hardyas can be. Because I have moved

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that thing about five different times.I've dropped trees on it. I have
just like piled leaves around it andmoved it here, moved it there,
moved it here, moved it there. Another thing is still not died.
Finally it's finally in its in itsresting spot, and I'm not moving it
again. You can pile leaves aroundit to burn it, yeah, and
it wouldn't kill the thing, right, I mean, they're they're so durable

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that you can go out there though, like three weeks ago, you go
out there with that things and fullbud, you know, just butted up
ready to bloom, and cut youten or twelve twigs that stuff off and
bring them in the house where it'syou know, seventy degrees and the buds
will just pop open inside the house. And man, you're talking about it's

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like you just got all natural potpourriin the house. I mean it is
like, oh, it's so good. Well, Chris, let's give out
the phone number right quick, ournumber if y'all want to give us a
call. It's two O five fourthree nine nine three seven two. Again,
that's two O five four three ninenine three seven two. If you
want to give us a call,If you got any gardening questions, you

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can. You feel free to callus two O five four three nine nine
three seven two. If you needlandscaping, if you need irrigation not lighting,
if you need long care, manlong care, if if you're not
on a long care program. Uh, you ought to be blowing us up
right now, because if you starton a pre emergent program right now,
I promise you you will not havecrabgrass if you hadn't been on a program,

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you know it. Over the lasttwo weeks, phones have been blowing
up because like two three weeks ago, all you know, these yards didn't
have a weed in them. Wellwe got into those mid sixty degree days
and uh man, this weed startedto grow. If you hadn't done it,
if you didn't do pre emergent lastfall, you got him bit,
you got bitter cress, you gotpoanna, you know, you got chick

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weed, you got field matter.I mean there's I mean that stuff like
overnight started growing and I spent agood portion of my week meeting with people
all around town getting them signed upon a pre Mergent program. See,
I'm not I'm not necessarily terribly worriedabout what I'm seeing in yards right now,
because it's kind of like what's doneis done. Now we're gonna come

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out and we're gonna start spraying thatstuff and start killing it. But I'm
worried about what we're going to beseeing in like, you know, May,
June, July, And that's reallywhat our pre Mergent is gonna head
off all these summer annuals, yourcrabgrass, your chamber bitter, you dove
weed, your uh spurge, youknow, all the summer summer annuals like

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that. What you do now ultimatelyis going to affect how your yard looks
in the in the summer months.So you got it, Like you said,
Chris Keith, you gotta get onit. You gotta joint jump on
the wagon and start and start gettingpre merging put down. Well. Naturally,
we get more calls this time ofyear than any other time of year,
like and from from like two weeksago until like then to May,

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it's kind of our hot spot foryou know, people calling in, you
know, wanting to sign up forlong care, and it's it's a natural
process because obviously the weeds just assoon as it gets sixty five, you
know, sixty degrees, sixty fivedegrees, and it's staying there, uh,
consistently. Yeah. We got adaylight today where it's crummy and it's

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you know, gonna be forty degreesall day long with the wind blowing like
crazy. But right back tomorrow it'sgonna be fifty five. And next week
all weeks seventy degrees. Boy,I mean, those those weeds are just
thumping right now. And we getso many calls, you know, this
time of year when you're gonna getout here and get my weeds, you
know, or you know, theywant to sign up for long care,

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and they expect, like, youknow, culture all the bat. You
know. It's like, man,you know that that stuff didn't jump up
overnight, and we can't just eradicateeverything. My granddad. I refer to
my granddad a lot because he taughtme a lot about gardening, and that's
kind of what I used to do. I say, later on in my

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life, I'm only forty, youknow, forty one, but I guess
probably when I was eighteen nineteen,I started spend more time out at my
grandparents, but always I'd always helphim out in the yard we had.
He lived out in a rim lapand on the site basically kind of at
the foot of a mountain, andall his backyard just consistently went uphill.
Yeah, and it is it wasnothing but rock. Chris Keith, I'm

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talking about just like layers and layersand layers of rock. Well, I
think we probably hammered and chiseled andshoveled every little section that didn't have rock
in it, like we would excavateit and make gardens. So he had
like little splashes of gardens between thescenes of rock when we bring in tons
of you know, different soils andmaneuvers and everything. But every one of

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his gardens, I think, andeven my other grandmother had some little plaque
in it. You know, they'dhave little gnomes and this and that,
but it had some little plaque thatreferred to gardening and patience, you know.
And a yard is no different orlawn is no different. You know,
it's something that it takes time,It takes consistency. You know,

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if you're starting over from scratch,maybe you just bought a house in that
homeowner didn't take care of things,or maybe you just didn't give a rip
and you're wanting to get your yardback into shape. It's not something that
happens every night. Typically. Welike to say, like if you start
on our lawn care program, ittakes approximately one year before we have what

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we consider like optimal control because youhave annual weeds that come up and finish
their life cycle in one year.But then you also have a lot of
perennial weeds. You know, youhave perennial weeds that start to show their
ugly faces in spring and summer andfall, and those have the pre mergent
doesn't prevent those perennial weeds from comingback year to year because they the top

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of it dies out, but theroot is still there, so we have
to spray those weeds out and sowe kind of have to cycle through all
these seasons once we start on alawn care program before we can, like
I said, have optimal control overover weeds. Now that's not to say
that you know, if you startif your yard is full of weeds right
now, if you start on alaw care program, I mean you're gonna

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see you're gonna see results, youknow, month in and month out,
and by the time we get tosummer, you know, you're going to
have you know, very very nicelooking yard and we're gonna have the opportunity
to get control of, you know, ninety five percent of the weeds.
But you know, like right now, you know, nutgrass isn't up,
so we haven't had the time tostart spraying that. And you know,

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you'll have some different type types ofox alice. You know, you'll have
wild violets, you know, andother weeds that we have to come in
there because those are tough to control, pre mergent. You have to come
in and spray thus out. Butit's just, uh, it's just something
that takes time and you have tostay with it. It's not something you
do for you know. Let's sayI'm a i'm a i'm a diet and

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I'm gonna take my cluster of medicationin twenty twenty four, right, and
then in twenty twenty five, Man, I'm gonna eat chicken wings all day,
I'm gonna eat fried catfish, I'meat mashed potatoes and gravy, and
I'm gonna take that cluster all medicationand I'm gonna chunk it. Right.
Well, guess what's gonna happen intwenty twenty five. My colesterol is gonna
shoot back up because I didn't followmy diet. Right. Well, what

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we provide for your lawn is adiet and you have to stay on that.
You have to stay on that dietforever. Yeah, it's not so,
I mean you can't. You can'tquit, and it's it's it's it's
it's bad for homeowner, but it'sgood for us, right because I hate
it. I absolutely hate it.I mean you like you take for example,
my first house. I had myfirst house phenomenal. I mean it

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was the grass was gorgeous, itwas weed free, slick as glass.
And we drive by it from timeto time because it's right now from where
we go to church. And Ihate driving by it because I mean,
within within one within one year,it's like it's back, man, it's
got it's I beat back ground Ivycreeping Charlie for years and got it under
control and now it's right back overeverything. And even when you know,

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a homeowner sells a house and wetook care of it for years and years
and years and the new homeowner doesn'twant to do anything to the yard and
you drive by it and you're like, oh my gosh, all that work
just gone, not even worth it. But so it takes. So when
you're talking about, you know,creating a green and weed free or it's

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something that takes patience, and it'san it's an ever going thing. It's
all going process. I mean,it's just like you wake up in the
morning, you brush your teeth.You do it every day, every day.
You know what I'm saying. Theywant you done twice a day.
Uh huh, you better but thatuh, you know it. It's one
of those things. You do itevery day. And it's just like taking

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care of your grass. You gottayou gotta stay on a monthly program.
Yeah, I mean, you justgotta do it. We weeds, well,
grass is the weaker species, right, they are blessed and you are
cursing and grass. Grass is highmaintenance. Yeah, as all there as
all there is to it. Well, weeds are the dominant thing. So
if you if you let it gofor two or three months even you just
start on the on the backwards uhdecline. I mean it's terrible. So

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you got to make sure you stayon a pre emergent program. You can
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three seven two And Chris, we'rejust talking. We've we've really been talking
lawns more than anything. But Imean that's kind of that's the name of
the game right now. Landscaping isstarting to ramp up now. You know,
every January I try to tell y'all, hey, you get on the
books now. If you don't,you know, I'll see you in August.
And uh it's not too late.I mean, you call us now

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at the garden center. There's nobodythere at the garden Center on Saturdays where
they're Monday through Friday eight to four. Uh won't be long. We'll probably
be eight to five. And assoon as the spring gets rolling in here
and uh, man, just geton the books. I mean, we
do everything in the yard that youcould imagine. We don't cut grass and

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we don't prune bushes. But asfar as you know, you're just all
your general landscaping things. So ifyou've got an old, overgrown landscape,
you know you can't see the frontof the house type deal, or you
you know, just you've had shrubsdie here and there, and so it
just looks janky. You know.We come in and we rip out all
those old shrubs, and we comein and we do a low maintenance landscape

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that'll basically beautify the front yard.We really do a lot of hardscaping,
Chris Keith, I know over thepast few years, you know, different
types of pavor, patios, retainingwalls, walkways that's a big thing,
you know, walkways. You knowyou have an old busted up concrete walkway
or flagstone that's all you know,you know, unlevel and everything, or

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maybe you just don't even have accessto you know, or something like that.
We come in with uh, youknow, pavers and do a lot
of walkways, fire you know,fire pits for fire features us anything's baically
anything in the yard. You know, we lay a lot of said,
do irrigation, installation and now's thetime to get on the books for the

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spring. That way you can goahead and get that get that rolling.
Well now stuff like that too.You know. Some of the time,
like this time of year, it'sreally tough for us to do drainage work
because obviously it rains every two orthree days, and when it rains this
time of the year, it's notlike, well, I take it back,
last night, we got a littledrizzle overnight. It didn't amount to

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much. But in most cases,when we get a rain, it'll take
a February. It takes a weekfor anything to get dry. Yeah,
parts in my backyard are still floodedfrom when we had rain what Monday.
Yeah, we got like four inchesof rain and I still got swamped.
It's still swampy. So I mean, you just have to There's there's some
things though that we can do justabout you know, four inches, we

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can do it the next day.And one of those things is you know,
a heartscape, because most of thetime we go in there lay plywood
down. We'll run in with theexcavator, we excavate a footer for that
stuff and uh, you know,go in and again it's we always say
it's all about that base. Butit's literally all about that base. You

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know. We we make a footerthat's really it's it's overkilled. I mean
you can drive on it, itdoesn't matter. But we want to make
sure that when you get you know, you get heartscaping done from us,
it's it's you know, top qualityand it's going to be there from now
on. Uh. You wouldn't believethe shoddy work that we've had to go

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in and fix behind somebody else thatjust like you know, the edges are
falling off or you know, stufflike that, because they just did a
half way job, you know,and just really didn't do it like a
supposed to. And we're not gonnado that. We excavate it wider,
we excavate it deeper, and uh, it's all about that base. Yes,
sir, and Chris Keith. Wegot John on the phone. Good

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morning John. How can we helpyou today? Good morning guys. Yeah,
I got a question for you.I uh, now that the rain
is starting to let up a littlebit, I wanted to go ahead and
put on my pre emergent, butI also want to come back and air
rate and overseed the front part ofmy yard. I'm one of those places
out in Leeds that has about nineacres, but there's about the part around

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the house I need to overseed andstuff. Can I go ahead and put
the pre emergent down and then stillgo ahead and air rate and overseed?
Man, John, thank you forcalling first off, because we're fixing those
straighten you sew up. If youput the pre mergent down, you won't
be able to overseed because that preemergent will prevent that seed from from growing

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and and doing this thing. SoI don't know, And I guess Chris
Keithy, what road you're fixing thego down is? What what are you
planning on overseeding with? John?Uh? Well, I've gotten a little
bit of everything out here in Leeds, but a lot of it is centipede
in the front yard, okay.And I've just got a lot of a

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lot of bear spots and stuff thatnever really came back last year after we
had the freeze and everything else.And yeah, I'm just trying to get
I'm trying to get it to lushup for me, so you know,
and I guess you're playing your wantingto come in with a centipede seed and
yeah, or yeah, do that. You know centipede is I tell you

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what, centipede is a what Iconsider kind of a lazy man grass.
You don't have to do a tremendousamount to it. Now. It did,
it got it got waxed last yearbetween the freeze that we had,
you know, it's a December timeframe, and then we had a late
frost to believe us sometime in aprilishit got it got hit hard. But

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centipede spreads very fast, and it'suh, I don't really like it,
but it's a durable grass. Really, John, I think what you probably
need to do is come in inthe uh once we start getting into the
March April time frame, start comingin there with fertilizer and and really pushing
that with fertilizer before we get intothe heat of the summer months. You

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know, centipede seed. I don'tthink we've sold centipede seed you know,
in quite some time if we do. If we have, we might have
had one or two packs of it. But you know, the sun,
it's one of those things kind ofthe sun and the moon and the stars
all have to be in alignment forcentipede seed to do to do well,
and now is not the time thatyou need to do it. If that's

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what you're going to try to youknow, that's what you're gonna try to
do, because the ground temperature isjust way too cold for any kind of
seed right now. Yeah, Imean, if you did centipede seed,
you'd you'd really want to do thatin like June, you win the ground
temperatures eighty degrees, So I meanyou're gonna really you have to put it
out there. Aerration needs to bedone that time of year as well.

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So if you did your aerration,you do it then and then you know,
if you want to do some overseaand you could do it, but
you're gonna have to keep it likea swamp out there that time of year,
and for you know, the areathat you're talking about, as far
as you know size and whatnot,it may be just virtually impossible for you
to get enough water on it toyou know, make it, make it

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actually germinate and do its thing.Like Chris said, the stars have to
be all aligned and everything work perfectfor centipede to seed to come up,
and you really kind of keep itat a swamp and that's when you get
in those June July time frames whereit's hot and you know, start hitting
those dry spells. So it's reallydifficult to get it to germinate and do
what it's supposed to do. Andobviously a pre emergent don't know a good

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seed from a bad seed, soit'll sterilize your seed that you put out.
And the the typical pre emergence thatwe put out usually last eight to
ten weeks. That's why we haveto put put one out every other month.
Now we've got the new what wecall the bag of gold, uh
as Harold refers to it, thatyou put out twice a year, and

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uh so it lasted longer, soyou kind of really have to lay off
pre It's it's kind of counterproductive withyour weak control. Uh when you're trying
to you know, overseed with awith a seed, you have to back
up on the pre emergence for severalyou know, two or three months and
then do your seed. And soit's it's it's really tough when you got

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a centipede yard like that. Iagree with Chris. What I would do
is as soon as it starts gettinghot, and you know, as soon
as the as soon as the grassactually starts growing a little bit, you
know, late March, start puttingyou know, start putting fertilizer on that
stuff and and fertilize it, youknow, March April May. You don't
really want to fertilize it heavy onceyou get kind of past that point,
because you're gonna start see fit.Uh. Cinipede always has some fungus in

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it, and if you you know, fertilize it when it's it's got fungus
in it, it feeds the fungus. So then you be going in the
opposite direction. That's why we callit a lazy man's grass because you have
you don't only fertilize it like inthe spring and in the fall kind of
thing, or or you're messing yourselfup. So it's it's kind of tough

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in that sense to grow it.But I don't know, it's it's that's
why we kind of veer away fromit. Uh. We don't recommend centipede
that much because it's a lot oftimes you're going in the wrong direction.
When you're trying to do good,you're doing bad kind of thing. You
discourage it, Okay, So goahead and do the pre emergence and then

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in March April and May. Ipart, if you want wanted to do
a pre emergent, maybe right nowyou probably could, but I wouldn't use
I wouldn't use the six month preemergent. You might do use the just
your normal January pre emergent, butby the time you get into May or
June, you you won't be ableto do any pre emerging on that stuff

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at all. And just I don'teven know that i'd do this one,
okay, So just waiting until andjust waiting until Marching in March April May
for life of the lot. Yep, that's correct. Yeah, March April
May is really when you want tofertilize it monthly, you know, and
see what you can. If youcan get the centipede that you've got right

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now to spread and do its thing, that's what I would. I would
I'd try to encourage what you've gotnow to spread and do it. How
big are the bear area is,John, They're not huge, They're just
you know, ten feet by,you know, just this little area.
You know what you could also,and I did this with with my at

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my mom's old house. She hadSaint Augustine, which is very similar to
that. You could come in andyou could take plugs. If you've got
areas where the where the centipede isthick and lush, you could come out
and you could take plugs, randomplugs from those areas and sprig it to
help fill in those those very areasand just to help speed up the process

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of those areas filling in because centipede, like I said, centipede spreads pretty
quick. And or you saw it. If if you got small areas like
that and you're just your gung hoabout getting them filled in, I would
I would go to the side orout versus versus the seed dry. I'm
just not a big fan of seedbecause it just more more I see more
failures and seed, you know,attempts that I do and I do successes.

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But I might come in there andjust and start taking some sprigs out,
and you could do that. Now, come in and cut some sprigs
out, you know, just acouple you know, a couple inches,
a couple of square inches, andis going in there and plugging it.
Okay, And then how do Ikeep the weeds down If I'm not putting
down pre emergent you just come inand you come in and either pull them

(28:10):
or spray them. And you gotto be careful with spray's too, you
know, depending on what time ofthe year it is, you can't get
the you know, you can't sprayduring transition when it's really starting to come
on strong, when it's when it'sgreening up. And you know, if
you want to pre merge everywhere exceptfor the areas where you're planning on on

(28:32):
you know, coming in and reestablishing centipede, you could do that.
I wouldn't hesitate to do that atall. Very good. That's great advice.
I appreciate it. Yes, sir, thank you, John, all
right, thank you. That's havea good weekend. I tell you that
it's really tough when it comes tocentipede. Like I'm I'm the brunt of

(28:53):
my yard. Is centipede? Wow, little wild centipede? It was probably
you know, just about every everykind of grass that we have now is
like something that was found from youknow, seeding a pasture, you know
what I'm saying. I mean,way back in the day it there were

(29:15):
all these grasses were for forage,you know what I'm saying. And and
as you get mutations and things likethat. That was this that gum grass
don't want to grow tall or whatever, so this becomes a turf, you
know, back you know, onehundred and fifty years ago or whatever it
was, it was, Man,we don't want this crap out here because

(29:37):
it won't grow and the cows won'teat it kind of thing. And uh,
you know it just developed into well, it's sure, sure is nice
in the yard because it don't growknee deep, you know, And that's
a centipede is kind of one ofthose things. So I've got some wild
centipede on my in my yard andit's nothing but an old pasture, and

(29:57):
uh, I never do anything toit but mow it. You know,
I mow it often, and Imow it low and you know, and
it does fine. But when Ihave a winner like we had year before
last, it uh it makes itrough, you know, on that stuff,
but it bounces back. The biggestthing is, uh, you don't

(30:21):
want to do anything to discourage it. That's that's that's the key with centipede.
It's it's so tough to find thatfine line, you know with that
stuff. That's why we don't pushcentipede. We don't recommend it or Saint
Augustine. Now you might have thepretty of Saint Augustine law and there ever
is in Roebuck, but it's beenthere forever. It's established. I don't

(30:45):
recommend you going and getting twenty palletsof it and laying it in your yard.
You're gonna be wishing you hadn't doneit. Uh. If you do
that, that's unfortunate because it sureis a pretty grass. You get a
pretty Saint Augustine yard, and thereis nothing, there's nothing better. Tho.
Hey, listen, if I livein Florida, i'd be all over.
Well, Chris, let's take abreak. We're a little late for

(31:07):
one or number. If y'all wantto give us a call, you can't.
It's two o five four three ninenine three seven two. It's the
classic gardens and landscape shovel on thehalf Ready come when you want up plants

(31:30):
and grass to grow two percent?Chris, Chris and Chris no, and
now you're a host Chris Joiner andChris Keith. Oh yeah, it's a
good first half hour and we're infor another good half hour. And uh,
if y'all want to give us acall you can two O five four
three nine nine three seven two anduh, man, we've just been talking

(31:53):
gardening like normal. A we ain'ttalk one bit about food. No,
we haven't. We have during thebreak we got Man, we've been focused.
So I'm mayor, I'm married intolaser folks. I'm married into a
Catholic family. I just my laserbeam just went off married into a Catholic
family. And so it's uh duringthe lent during the lent season, man,
it's pitiful. You can't eat youcan't eat meat on Fridays. So

(32:15):
instead we get some fine sea food. I had a red fish and oysters
last night. Ain't nothing wrong withthat. Swap your two inch rabies in
for o. Al right, focus, laser laser focus. Can we purne

(32:37):
anything in the in the landscape rightnow? Christy? You know I'm because
you know this. When when youget sunny weathers, sunny weathers, when
you get some nice sunny weather likewe've had, people start, Man,
they start cranking up some some pruneand sheers right there. Head trimmers,
you can tell how you can tellhow poor the the guys that cut grass

(33:00):
have gotten at this point because man, they are murdering the hell us I've
been talking to I'm talking right.I have seen more piles of limbs on
the side of the road. AndI'm telling you this is a copycat cry.
And we've we've complained about it aslong as I can remember. And
uh, you don't cut the topout of your crate myrtles, but everybody
does it every year. Most ofthe time. It's you know, some

(33:22):
guy that cuts grass and uh,you know he ain't got nothing grass and
growing. And that's all right.The leaves are all blown up. Yeah,
the gutters are clean. Uh,and everybody wants to do pressure wash,
so they want to they want touh cut crape myrtles and uh it,

(33:43):
man, it makes a homeowner feelgood. Matt, my god,
that that that professional company down thereis cutting those crape myrtles. So I'm
gonna go do the same thing.I'm gonna save me some money and I'm
gonna do it right. Well,it's wrong. You do not murder crp
myrtles. You do not cut them. It is a tree. You you
let it grow like a tree.So if you're cutting your crpe myrtles,

(34:04):
you should feel bad and ashamed.Yeah, because you're doing wrong well in
a sense, Chris, and youand people will come back and say,
well, they bounce back just fine. Do you know how much it would
stress out your oak tree if youcame out there and you cut half the
top of it out and you seethese crape myrtles starting to get this black

(34:28):
sooty mold. Were talking about thesystemic insect drench so heavy last week,
and it's tin if you hadn't putthat on your crate marles. You need
to put some on around your crpemyrtles now, because what happens. You
get that old black sooty mold andall that stuff on them, and that
stuff gets all over your car,gets all over everything underneath the crpe myrtles,
and it's actually cost from an insect. So you need to treat your

(34:52):
crpe myrtle, fertilize your crape myrtle. Don't whack the top out of them,
you know, but it's it stressesthe plant out. I mean you
see a lot of times. Couldyou imagine if if it doesn't matter what
plant it is, if you goin there and aggressively cut it way back,
man, it's it's rough on aplant. And it doesn't matter if

(35:14):
it's crape myrtle. Crpe martle isone of the toughest plants on this planet,
you know, obviously because you cutthem half and two every year and
they bounce right back from it.But it's still stressful on the plant.
And uh, you know, whenyou are so like a tiger when it
attacks like a herd of deer,it doesn't attack the biggest, baddest one.

(35:37):
It attacks the weakest, you knowwhat I'm saying. And if bugs,
a lot of times bugs are thesame way, they attack the weakest
plant. And uh, you know, if you take a plant and you
retard it back halfway and it's gotto bounce back from all that that new

(35:57):
tender growth on that thing. Everyyear you'll you'll see crape myrtles and they
will be just covered with aphids onthat new tenant growth because it just they're
having to come back and they're doingall they can to put on this new
growth, and it's just it's justso stressful on the plant. And then
you get the mold and you getall this stuff. And if you just
left your crpe myrtles along, they'rebig, they're strong, you know,

(36:20):
limb them up where they you know, they the canopy of the plant gets
big, and they're so big andstrong till nothing attack. It's nothing.
And there's just nothing like a big, majestic airy crape myrtle. I had
a in laws, had a neighborthat had five or six crpe myrtles out
in the middle of their yard.I mean, these things are giant.

(36:43):
I don't know what kind they were. I mean they're forty feet tall and
seventy feet wide, huge trunks asbig as your waste and mind put together,
Chris Keith. And they sold thehouse and moved and I tell you
what, like the next year,the new homemer came with a chainsaw and
cut those things down to like sixfeet and I was just that made me
sick. I mean I wanted togo like beat down his door and say,

(37:05):
man, what did you do?Because there was no reason for him
to cut those crate myrtles in.They're out in the middle of the yard
and they've got like four acres.I mean, this is out in the
middle of four acres, nothing hugenatural areas around them, right, Just
a shame people do that. Well, it doesn't know. Nine times out
of ten. It's plant placement.You know. You can't put a crate
myrtle five feet in your house.No, it doesn't work. It just

(37:28):
don't work. When you put apool in, don't go put ten crate
myrtles around it. It's the nastiestthing that you can put around. It's
got leave, it's got it's gotlittle old balls, that's got the messy
trees. They're pretty, but they'remessy trees. Yeah, don't put ten
of them around your pool. Whenyou put in the pool, don't put

(37:50):
it crap. I had a coupleone time. This is no like I
think. We treated their yard fora little while over in Pence, and
they had ten crate myrtles around theirpool. And every year I would go
in there and cut them to thedirt for them. You wouldn't murder them.
I WoT them down to the ground. Well they all right. So
you got a natchez crape marlin wantsto get thirty feet tall, and you

(38:10):
got them against your pool. Iwould go in there and cut them to
the dirt every year, and theywould go back to six foot in one
season. But six foot was lowerthan their privacy fence, and they were
on the outside of the privacy fenceso all that trash didn't blow in the
pool. You know. It's justAnd that's so every year you spend two
hundred and fifty bucks, you know, or three hundred dollars to have somebody

(38:30):
cut them all the way to thedirt when they should have never been put
there to start with, and youcould spend the half that amount and you
can put the right you spend theright tree in the right five hundred dollars
may to come in there with theexcavator and dig them all up, you
know, I mean, it's justwhat do you want to do? It's
crazy. Yep. Nine times outof ten, uh, when something goes

(38:51):
on like that, it's it's plantplacement. It doesn't matter if it's Nellie
R. Stevens Holly. If youplan at four feet from your house,
it's it's too close. I mean, it just you're creating a maintenance problem
for yourself. You know, you'llsee home built new home construction where they'll
come in they'll plant cleararras or tiallasin a flower bed that's three feet deep

(39:15):
that runs alongside the garage and nextthing you know, it swallows a sidewalk
and you can't walk and you can'twalk down the sidewalk. You got to
think about what you're doing, youknow. And some of the time we
go in there. If you needlandscape and give us a call. Eight
five four four thousand and five.Chris King, he's a king of low
maintenance, him and Mike Pinder,king of low maintenance. I will not

(39:37):
put a plan against your house thatis going to swallow it. I mean,
it's just not gonna happen. Someof the time we're over at Frank
Gregg's o. They want to sayhey to Frank. They listened to radio
show. They're out and like theross Bridge area, it seemed like two
weeks ago we were like we livedover there, within a mile of Frank.
We did like three jobs right aroundthem. But U he it was

(40:00):
one of those jobs where it wasjust I took the machine down there and
we wound up digging all of hisshrubs out behind. Never even unloaded the
machine outside of to load the brushwith, but went in there, ripped
all of his shrubs out, puttingnew shrubs in. He probably wanted to
how to prune his shrubs for threeyears and then when he does, it's

(40:20):
gonna be a once a year kindof thing. And that's what we want
to do. We want to takeyou know, a lot of the plants
that we used to use twenty fiveyears ago, they just grow to daggum
fast. So we're putting in stuffnow that just doesn't grow at the rate
that it did. And that's notto say it's not gonna look little when
we put it in, because I'mnot planting stuff in front of you.

(40:44):
I mean, if you think aboutit, I'm not taking out fifteen foot
tass stuff to put back in fifteenfoot tall stuff that doesn't That's not the
way it works. You put youknow, take fifteen twenty foot tall stuff
out from in front of your house. You put back something that's three or
four foot tall, you know,and then it takes you three or four
years before you ever have to evendo anything to it. So you know,

(41:06):
we're doing everything we can to makethe maintenance as low as we can.
And uh, that's that's the keyis low, low, low,
making very few people like to spendtheir weekends pruning plants. Now, most
you find some people that do,but most people don't. Most people pay
somebody to trim their shrubs, becauselet's face it, it's not that expensive

(41:28):
to get somebody to pun your shrubsand you only got to do it like
once or twice a year. It'sgot a good landscape. So we want
to make it easy as we canfor you. And uh, you know,
so if you do have to paysomebody to trim your shrubs. Nobody
likes trimming shrubs. I mean that'sthat like me. Yeah, trimming the
shrubs in the hard part. Cleaningup is not as the part that's not

(41:49):
fun. Yeah, so you gotto get all them leave yeah stuff out
of you bark most of the time, you tree them and then you you
know, put you a little muchdown to kind of you know, clean
things up. But yeah, it'snobody likes streamings, not at all.
We like doing low, low,low maintenance. All right, Chris,
last break the show. Our number. If you want to give us a
call, get a last minute call, you can. It's two five four

(42:09):
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me got Tom on the line.Good more and Tom, how you doing
good? Than enjoyed show, guys, Thanks very much. Listen. I've
got this yukker plant. I don'tknow where it came from. About three

(45:12):
or four years ago. I dugit all the way down about three feet
deep, trying to get that root, and thought I had it killed and
has come back up through the groundagain. How can I get rid of
that yucker plant? You just gotto be diligent and keep doing what you're
doing. That there's not a spraythat'll kill it that. I mean,

(45:34):
it's man, that thing's tough andyou just literally, Tom, You'll have
to just be diligent and do likeyou did before and just dig it up
and hopefully this time you get itoff. But it they are. That
is a nuisance plant. Yuker exclamationfor it, Yuka. I mean the

(45:58):
name just doesn't sound good us.Yeah, this is what we had a
Chris Keith. That's one of thoseindestructible plants. Man, we're kind of
we're kind of speechless on how Iwish I had better news for you,
But it is you did everything youcould do the first time, and you

(46:19):
see what happened. Yeah, andit just if you do it the next
time and your successful, kudos.I mean, it is. They are
a rough plant. You know,we talked about plants that are indestructible.
You know, Yuka's right there.You know, we talked about daffodils at
the beginning of the show. UhIris is another one. My god,

(46:40):
I remember My mom had a nutgras. You know, what do you do?
Man? Uh? Those are justthere are certain plants where you could
just you could dig them up andyou could just throw them out in the
woods and then it's like they multiplyby three million in a year. And
yukas one man, Yuka is oneof those things I had. My mom

(47:00):
had iris and I used to tellI used to find them out and I
throw them across the street and theydroop. Yeah, you know what I'm
saying. And uh, it's likea tater on top of the ground.
All right. Oh man yu yuyukka. You know what, Chris,
And this ain't no lie, It'sa wonder. I don't have a yuk

(47:22):
at growing in my barn because Itook a bunk. So when I was
building the I want to I was, I was putting the uh like filling
in for what I was gonna put, you know, put my foot in
from my barn. There was someyuck in it, and I said,
Dad, gun, this stuff isgonna like sprout and cracked the concrete and

(47:42):
like come up in the middle ofthe horn. It's that bad. Yeah,
nothing good about it. Yuka.No, this yuck for a reason.
Hey, it's uh. You takea pretty weekend over the next couple
of weeks and get your yard.You're bermuting your zoisa, get it scalped
down. I'm tired of yukka.We're not talking about it anymore. It's
it's it's that time. If youwant to go ahead and scalp your yard,

(48:04):
you can go ahead and do it. I mean it's not you know,
it's kind of wet right now,but go ahead and get that all
that excess of dormant and turf off, and that'll help the green up process
as we move into the spring,especially if you haven't been on a pre
emergent program or anything like that.Weeds don't like being cut. So if
you're just say you called us andgot on our Long Career program and Chris

(48:29):
came out there to measure your yard. The best thing you could do for
your yard right now and the weedsthat are in it is keeping mode.
Keep them mode, even though thegrass sitting and growing, keep it mode.
Cut the weeds. You gotta cutthe weeds. If you cut the
weeds you're gonna do You're gonna helpwith your long career. I promise,
yes, sir well, Chris,that music means we're out of time,
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(48:51):
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