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It's the Classic Gardens and Landscape Showon the hand Ready and when you'll want
show up plants and grass to growtwo percent. Chris, Chris and Chris.
No, Chris knows it. Chrisknows in. Chris knows it.
Chris knows it. Chris knows it. Chris knows it. Sure, Chris

knows it. See, Chris knowsit. And now you're a host.
Chris Joyner and Chris Keith, Goodmorning, Welcome to the Classic Gardens and
Landscape Show on w e r C. I'm Chris Keith and I'm Chris Joyner.
It's a nice day. Did youhear those cicadas cut when you're walking
in the house that it's not bad? That's not Uh. I kind of

like it. They're real out there. When I wake up in the morning.
Uh, there there's a gentle buzz. And as it gets through the
you know, six thirty seven,eight o'clock timeframe, they'll get louder and
louder and than by the time Iget home, they've kind of settled down.
Well, I had. I hadthe back doors open on the barn
last night, you know, andwe were just me and Teresa just sitting

there chilling, you know, andlistening to the crickets and the frogs and
all let stuff, you know,just out overlooking the pond. Yep.
Yeah, I mean nature is alive, man, I try it. And
my kids have been all the allthose little excess skeletons. There's dozens of
them on the driveway yesterday and Igot home and so there's just I mean,

she was tickled to death. Shesaid. The kids are going around
just stepping on them, just justcrushing all the excess skeletons all over the
driveway. So they've had fun withit. Yeah, So trying to catch
some live ones. Like I hadn'tseen the first one. I mean you
can hear them all over the place, but I haven't seen the first one.
So they're out there. They're like, they're not in on our side
of the street. They're all inthe woods on the other side of the

street, along the pastures and everythingout through there. So I guess they're
they're brewed hats from all the Beaston'sfields and the Bertram's fields over that way.
Yeah, they found the found thesoftest ground. Yeah burrow, I
guess borrower out over it. Yeah, that's right. Well, listen.
If you got any gardening questions,give us a call and talk to us.
Four three nine nine three seven twoChris Keith yards are coming along well,

you know, every week to week, every time I talk to a
customer, they're like, man,my yard looks so much better and it's
so much greener than it was lastweek and the week before that and the
week before that, and next weekyards are going to be even greener.
And now that's my time of year. Well, you know, a week
and a half ago with thirty eightdegrees, that's night right. You know,
the last four or five nights hasbeen sixty you know, saying and

looking at the you know five dayforecasts sixty eight sixty nine for Low's you
know, and uh, man,that grass just don't like it cold nighttime
temperatures. No, it does not, even when it gets up in the
eighties during the day. Uh,you know those those nights where it's in
the fouries. Man, that stuffjust struggles to come out. And uh,
you know, now we're getting moreadequate temperture. Hey, look,

grass is not really rocking and rollinguntil we're you know, seventy degrees at
night and day. You know thatjust it wants it to be hot,
moist, you know, tropical,and and we're just not there yet.
I mean, it's what we're gettingthere. You know, this is Permuta's
always just Saint Augustine's centipede. It'stropical grass. Like ideally it wants to

grow at the equator. Yeah,you know, you go down to the
Bahamas, the Caribbeans, that's wherethat's really we and I don't you could
argue that, like we won't eversee like in Alabama, we won't ever
see grass at its peak because itjust doesn't stay hot enough for long enough.
You know. You go again,you go down into South America or
the tropical islands where it's you know, eighty five degrees year round. That's

where grass does its best. That'swhere it I mean it strives, you
know. But and it's crazy becauselike and this is how I am.
You know, I love I lovecutting grass. Right, you know,
we start we start in March.Man, I'm that we used to have
that parody song real ment of geniusabout the guy was bandan on and no

shirt cutting shirtless grass cutting guy,you know, cutting grass in February.
That's me. We still have it. We'll get that plug in, just
just for the heck of it.But that's me. I'll be out there
and I'll be out there February andI've already cut my grass six times,
and my good buddy Kevin will belike, dude, why are you cutting
your grass again? And that growingI like, I like to keep it
clean. You know, there's nosticks, no nuts, no leaves or

anything. Well, so February,you know, March, April, and
may you know, love cutting grass. You get into June, man,
you know, it's it's it's justa guy thing. You cut grass and
then you kind of afterwards you popopen a cold one and you sit back
at you and look at the fruitsof your labor, you know, and
that grass is just as slick asit can be. Three days later,

do to come. And then aboutsometime about sometime about mid to late July,
it's like ninety five degrees outside.It's a million percent of humidity,
and you've been sweating all day long, and it's the dog days of summer
and you're like, man, Ijust don't want to cut grass anymore.
Cut. So we really grass wisein the South, we really have like

June and July where in my opinion, that's like where we're satisfied, you
know what I mean. Like grassis growing, you don't mind getting out
there cutting grass. It looks good. But before June and July, you
know, we're always we're always coldand the grass having to hit its peak.
Yet after July it's so dad gonehot you just don't want to do
anything. So we're satisfied for twomonths. Yeah, August you're burnout.

Yeah, and we start getting thosehot dry spells and you're having the water
to crap all the time, andyour water bill's going up, and you're
like, oh man, it's acatch twenty two. But man does two
much. You know, you getinto mid May through you know, let's
say two and a half months,you know, mid May, June and
July, man at grass is phenomenal. You know, I was visiting with

a neighbor of mine which I'm gonnasend you by there. He's I could
measure his yard, but he's oneof those, uh you know, he
wants some personal connection with which Ilike. That's that's favorite part of my
job is just meeting handshakes and hugs. Mister Sam works for the middle school
and he does maintenance for I thinka bunch of the county schools. You

know, mister Sam. Everybody knowsmister Sam. But anyways, he has
got a big patch of bermuda thatwas planned, I guess a couple of
years ago in his backyard. It'sit's not big big. When I say
big, I think he said it'sseven pallets. But he's I stopped by
there yesterday and he he kind ofway flagged me down coming down the road

and I wheeled in there and hewas asking me about a drainage problem he's
got. And then but he wastalking about his grass, and I said,
well, you don't have anybody treatingit obviously, because it's you know,
it's got some crab grass starting tocome up in it, and it's
got a you know, you cansee some old winter weeds. But he
keeps a cut so low. He'sdone a good job of doing that because
he's beat back the weeds itself byjust cutting the grass, you know,

frequently. And uh, but hewants to start treating it. So I'll
give you his server and all thatstuff, and you can stop there and
measure it and just talk to Samfor a little bit. But uh,
yeah. I mean you talk aboutmow and that's like that's half the work.
Yeah, you know, you takea you take a yard that is

new to the program. You knowwhere we just started in the spring.
Let's say somebody signs up in youknow, late February March. You know
they've already got all the winter annuals, you know, the hen bit,
the poana, the bitter crest,wild carrot, all that kind of stuff.
You take two customers, and youtake one that mows every like three

or four weeks, and then youtake the other other customer and they're out
there dagam every week mowing, andthe difference in weed control is night and
day. Yeah, I mean,and you can even even yards that you
know, even on the best premergent program. I mean, if if
you do everything one hundred percent right, you know, you still have some
some perennial weeds that poke through.You know, you get some different violets

and onions, and you know,burn weed is one that we see this
time of year because pre mergent doesnot do anything for it because it germinates
in the thatched level. But youtake somebody that is already and has been
on like a consistent mowing program,and it's night and day difference. I
was on a yard yesterday and doesn'tI mean, his customer been with us

about a year and a half andhe had star Bethlamb like up to your
shin and I'm like, I toldI told him. I was like,
man, you got it. Ifyou would have been cutting your grass already,
I mean, we wouldn't be lookingat this stuff because you would have
you would have mowed it to death, basically, But mowing is so important,
like and I we we try todo a really good job communicating with
homeowners that like it's a when youhave a long cair service like Classic Gardens

and Landscape, it's kind of it'sa fifty to fifty relationship. And you
might even tweak that ratio a littlebit. You know, we provide the
fertilization, we provide the weed control, We give you advice on what to
do. We diagnose the yard asfar as what's going on insect and disease
wise. But obviously we can't cutthe grass. We can we don't control

watering the grass, and so that'sthe homeowner's part. And so and that
makes I mean, you know,if you don't do that part. If
you don't keep it cut regularly,and you don't water, and you don't
address issues as we see them,you know, it's not gonna it's not
gonna be up to par. Youknow, it's not gonna be what you
expect. So it's really it reallyis a it's a it's a relationship where

both team members has to have tohave to do their part. You know,
the center has to quarter has tosnap the ball to the quarterback and
the quarterback's got to catch it.You know, it's kind of like that
relationship. Quarterback be the superstar.But if you don't get the freaking Falladay,
you got it. You work,you work hand in hand with homeowners
and that, and you know,that's just that's one of my favorite things
is when you see somebody that thatreally does their part. I was at

a guy's house the other day.I'll think of his name, man,
it's it's slipping in my mind.But we were we were having this conversation,
David Bell, Rocky Ridge Road.We've taken care of a couple of
his yards and and uh, hewanted me to come out and look at
a couple a couple of spots,and when I was out there, he
was out picking weeds in the flowerbed. He cuts his own grass and

everything. We had the same conversationand he's the one that brought it up.
He was like, you know,you know, y'all do a great
job taking care of the yard,but you know I have to do my
part as well. And you know, if I'm walking out into my mailbox
and I see one or two weeds, I sit there and I pick them
out. You know, I justpluck them because there's no you know,
that's just kind of what you gottado. So it's a it's a relationship

and our customers that understand that,oh, their yards are phenomenal, fantastic
looking. So that's my story.Yep. I've been working for one of
our long cair customers this past week, and when we come back from this
break, Chris, I'll tell youabout the wedders and what we've been doing
over there. Our number if y'allwant to give us a call, you
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to see women's shoes. I'm nogood at serving up booze, don't have

a knack for teaching the math class. But I'm pretty good at pleading grass.
I was thinking, so hah,yeah, I'm good at digging over
im. Every time I think aboutthis song, I said, I'm pretty
good at shaking straw because I lovedI don't know what it is. I

love shaking pine straw. I hateit. I don't know. I get
my music going. I still gotto do my yard. I've been putting
it off. But well, youknow four three nine nine three seven two.
If you want to talk to usand keep us on track and ask
gardening questions, there's a lot goingon, whether it's vegetable gardening, whether
it's yards, whether it's landscape.But shaking straw, I don't know why.

Man. I get my music going, and I get out there and
I'm shaking. I'm just shaking strawstraw, And then and then you got
black buggers for like two weeks afterthat, cause I usually have a buff
and I'll put that buff on tryto keep it in check. We have
been working for mister Wetta out sincethe first the last or this week and

we went out there. Man,you're talking about a dilemma. So we
started on this patio. He hadalready had a patio back there and it
was like twelve by ten or somethinglike that, you know, coming out
the back door. And so thewhole plan was to dismantle the patio and

you know, tear and bust upthe concrete, put in a you know,
a new paper patio. Well thatplan changed when we started cutting the
concrete and found that the concrete wasa foot deep thick. Oh wow,
Yeah, theatio, the patio thatwas already there was a foot thick.
So we had to I mean,we rented a jack camera, we took

you know, the machine, wecut it. We did everything we could.
Could not bust this too. Imean it was criss crossed and reebar
I mean that. Yeah, Imean the patios usually only like three four
inches right that slab. We're thinking, okay, we'll just pop this bad
boy up right, make few cutsin it, you know, we'll just
lifted flick it right out there witha little machine. No, what never

happened. I guess they had extraconcrete they were looking to get rid of.
Yep. So we literally had togo in there around Obviously, when
you get that deep in it,you're like, hey, look that concrete
ain't going nowhere, and it's betterthan the footer. So we come around
the edge of it, dig thatthing out and put a nice footer around
the outside of it, screened sandover the top of it, and laid

the papers right over the top ofthat bad boy slick glass. And now
it's it's when you come out theirback door, it sits perfectly with with
the entryway. Entryway, nice backyep. So they got a pretty nice
patio back there. Now, allwe lack digging a French drain from the
corner of that patio and going aroundthe side. We had to dig it

out the other day. So soMonday we did the footer. Well,
sometime early Monday morning, you know, we got that heavy, heavy rain
just all at once, you know, and got over there in our foot
or was four inches deep in water. Ain't much you can do then,
was nothing we can do. Wepunting. So what we did while we

were there, we were already supposedto dig a French drain out around the
back. So when we dug that, we went on had and dug that
French drain and the drain allowed orjust that ditch anyways, that drain allowed
the water to get out of thatpatio. And so we we skipped him
on Wednesday, so let everything dryout, and then went and did a

job for Carolyn Pope. Now she'sshe's right there in Roebuck, not far
from where Mike and Anne used tolive, just a few blocks from there.
And that was just a nice youknow, rip out your old shrubs.
You know, she's been there twentyfive years. Her shrubs are twenty
five years old. Ripped all ofher shrubs out, put new low maintenance
landscaping back in there for and wewere there, you know, half a

day and cleaned that up, andyou know, did some odds and ends
that day. We've been jockeying trucksaround, had one that was broke down.
We it came out of the shops. We went and got it and
all that stuff. And then yetThursday we go back to mister wet Us
and we work on our footer again. By now it's dry enough we can

finish getting our footer in. Wescreened the sand and we laid about two
and a half pouts of pavers thatday. You know, three guys.
We were able to get that muchdone. And then yesterday went back in
laid another palette in half of pavers, went in around the edges and cut
it in, and our soldier courseand sanded the whole thing, and so

it was ready to go. Sohe's got a he got a nice well.
Its sixteen by thirty. So that'sa big, you know, big
patio. And uh, we'll goback tomorrow. We'll go back Monday.
We're gonna let a little side overin that corner where that French drain is
and just clean things up. Putgo ahead and finish that French drain.

We just dug emergency drain the otherday just to get us water all there.
But uh, we'll we'll get everythingcleaned up and and really get it
nice. We had his irrigation rnaround that old patio, and uh,
obviously we got we we're gonna takeit and put it up above that wall

back there, because he's got awall that the the brick walls in between
waste waste, and it gets upthere about seven foot tall and the tiest
part of it, and uh,we're gonna have to just run that that
irrigation line around it. We nevernever leave lines under patios, you know,
and build over stuff like that incase you ever have any issues with

it. Some of the time we'llput in a sleeve, you know,
and we'll run the pipe through it. But with his case, it had
to go around that old concrete.So if you had to turn the curve
with it, the sleeve's no good. So we had to We're gonna have
to just redirect of the wall.I meant to apologize to you. I
was supposed to load those papers upfor you. That day. Chris Keith

calls me and says, hey,I'm I'm gonna be I'm gonna be Uh,
I'm gonna be riding, riding fast. So I load these papers up
for me so I can hook upand go. Emily, our girl that
runs the garden center, was shewasn't there that day, and so I
hung back. I went up toMorris and did a couple of bids,
looked at a couple of yards,got back, and uh, I was

helping. I was running the gardencenter for Anne because Anne was trying to
Anne was getting out out bids thatwe've been doing for landscaping. I mean,
you know, MIC's out running lookingat looking at bids, shooting those
things out left and right. SoI was by myself in the garden center
and got busy selling tomato programs andhanging baskets and perennials. And next thing,
next thing I know, I seeChris Keith pulling in the gate.

I was like, oh, Iwas supposed to love these pavers for him,
but you know what, these customersin the garden center are more important.
Well, the thing about it istoo, I was telling you,
hey, put the pavers on theon the on the trailer. Well I
came in and jumped the trailer,and I'm thinking myself. I had the
dump trailer behind me, and Ihad to, you know, drop it

right quick. And I got tothink about it. I was like,
man, they we ain't getting fourpave pallets of pavers, you know,
laid this evening anyways, you know, by then it's one o'clock. And
I said, I'll just slide threepallets on the truck and uh, I'll
just haul them down there on thetruck. So I just I hauled them
down there in the dump trucks.It was really worked out that it did.
You didn't because I put them onthere, slid them on there right

quick, and boom, I wasat the gate and gone. We had
a great week at the great weekat the garden Center. I got to
spend some time in there helping out. And there's no no, I mean
beautiful hanging basket. Everybody that comesin brags on our hanging basket. It's
not just how they look, buttheir price, the size of them,
and that it's you know, theprice of them is great compared to you

know, the big box stores.But beautiful hanging baskets because we take care
of them. Our all of ourbetting plants. Betting plants look fantastic to
made a program, you know,Ann was telling me that, Uh,
there's a guy that came in aboutit and did his tomato program, got
all his refilling everything for it,and he was telling the story about how
he tried to he tried to tweakthe recipe right and he and he he

said that he went and got otherpotting soul and mixed in some different maneuvers
and stuff like that, and he'slike it just it's it didn't do the
same. So I'm never going tostray away from the recipe that y'all have
provided for us and we've even donethe same thing. And Chris Keith,
I know that when you used torun the garden center, you did that
where you did comparisons. Well,we were trying we you know, there's

just for there's different there's different productsthat are the same thing, but like
one of them may be you know, like we use a certain product on
lawns and there's a there's a versionof it that's fast acting, and we
tried to use the fast acting inthe place of the other one one time

just because you know, it wassee if it gives you better quicker as
results, right, Yeah, justtrying to trying to get that edge,
you know. And that's the waythis thing came about. You know,
as we know, we started withthese fertilizers and say, you know what
if we try a little bit ofthis and make it a little better and
it did. You know, Wetried a little bit of this and made

it better, and it did.You know. We kept doing that and
kept doing that, and kept doingthat until we did it just a little
bit more. We fried it,and we did just a little more,
we fried it. We said,well we're better bag. It's like this.
It's like this knife is already assharp as it can get, so
there's no there's no point in slidingit across the stone and get real more
time, right. I mean,it's the point now where if they change
one and like if they discontinue aproduct or something like that, it's gonna

what do you do? But tomatotomato program people are still coming in and
getting that. We got a greatselection of tomatoes, vegetables, all kinds
of vegetables, herves, squash,peppers, beautiful basil, you know,
different types of mint, parsley,rosemary, lavender, you name it,
we got it. Perennials are startinga perennials are starting to pop. You
know. It's the next wave ofcolors that are coming now. So you

know, knockout roses are in fullbloom, the drift roses are in full
bloom. Oak leaf hydrangeas are comingon strong. There's a type of spyria.
I got a couple of them outhere in my yard. They get
a pink bloom on them, variegatedtype leaf. I forget the name of
them. But despite the different typeof spirea that's coming in bloom, there's
a lot of difference. Just uhstart, man, just a lot of

stuff, a lot of pretty,pretty pretty stuff. So it's great coming
into the garden center. And everysix, every six weeks come in.
I heck, you can come inevery week if you want to. But
every week, every couple of weeks, you know, something else will be
blooming. It's like, man,I didn't see that last time. It's
a lot of stuff coming in.You know, I've got to do a
design. You know. It's itsucks, Chris, because I've got I've

got carpal tunnel in both my hands, so I had to go get an
injection in my left hand of theday because I literally did not have any
grip. And I've got to doa design that this fella I went and
saw the other day, Stephen Day, super nice guys, and when would
uh sub division over and trustful?And he backs up right to the lake

man, and I'm talking about apretty place. It is the driveway and
he looks like he's off in thewoods. And when you go off in
his driveway, it's like it opensup and man, he's on the thirty
acre lake, you know, andthat's just too good. And uh,
but man, we got a lotto do over there. But uh,
long story short, I couldn't write, so I could. If you can't

write, you can't draw, right, So uh I was having but I
just got an injection. And ofcourse I laid two and two pounds papers
yesterday, so that probably didn't helpout any struggling. But uh, I'm
coming on. But yeah, let'stake a break right quick. I'll tell
you about my failure at the house. You know, even you know what

makes a good gardener killing a lotof stuff. Yes, I can tell
you how to not screw up betterthan anybody you know, because I have
done it and I just did itagain and we continue to do it,
and I'm gonna tell you about itwhen we come back from this break.
You listen to the Classic Gardens andLandscape Show on w e r C.

It's the Classicscape the Ready when youwant hump plants and grass to grow two
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Landscape Show And uh boy, I'mbut hurting. So that uh you had
you had grandiose plans and for cornthis year. And no, it's it's
it's going. It's kind of comejust had a little just had a speed
hunt. That will set back.So what what happened was there there's never

been a garden in this spot,and it's old part of cow pasture,
and it's just a red or wasold hayfield. It's just old red dirt.
And I said, you know what, I'm on supercharge this thing right
off the jump, and I amgonna make corn grow like God intended it,
I mean, and I'm gonna makeit come on. And I sent

ten yards of chicken litter right inthe center of that thing and about running
everybody off the farm there for aboutthree weeks, and I tilled it in.
Boy, and I'm looking at it. I said, man, it's
good old black dirt. It's gonnagrow anything. And I put seed in
the ground and I had two rowscome up, one row on the other

one end of the garden and onerow on the other end of the garden.
And I had about ten or twelvemore rows come up about four foot
long. And when it got downto a certain point, nothing and I
went down there and I said what'sgoing on with this thing? So I
walk out in it, and assoon as I walk out in it,
it's like crunch, crunch, crunch. But when I got I crunched into

it with my feet. I wasgetting mud, and I said, man,
let me do some investigating. Some the guy that digs holes.
I get out there and I digand sure enough, I've got like a
crust on top. It's like twoinches thick, and I got about four
inches of mud under that. AndI said, man, So I get

to digging around looking for seed,and when I find seed, it's just
rotten. And I said, Dad, gum it. So now I'm in
the process of So we come backthrough there. Had Dad come through with
a turning plow and really turn thatstuff under, And that was about a

week ago. We went back throughit about or day before yesterday and turned
it again. So I'm hoping Iget enough of that good red dirt mixed
up into that that chicken litter turnedunder and that that red dirt turned over,
and get a whole lot deeper mixof that stuff and get it where
I can plant some corn maybe firstof June kind of thing. But uh

yeah, even the best gardeners failed. But I tell you, man,
that's that's it. I can't tellyou how much stuff I've killed in my
time, and especially when it comesto like like new products. If new
like weed sprays come out or somethinglike that, I'll try it on my
yard and sometimes it ain't the bestthing in the world. I'll burn spots
like hey, hey, let metell you what don't like starting grow?

What's that long needle pine tree?Long needle pine trees don't stuf. If
you're planting long needle pines, don'tyou start to grow? Use it on
everything else? Right, Yep.We had a thousand of them come into
the garden and now I made itwasn't a thousand. I think it was
three hundred little little trees there abouta foot tall, you know. And
the idea was Mike was going toplant them down there on his farm,

uh and like make a pine treeor like a like a pine straw plantation
or whatever. And then you knowthat it takes you know, one hundred
years longer than his lifetime and makeit happen, but he's gonna plant them
anyways. Well, Uh, theycame in the garden center, and you
know, everything We always preach startingGrow fertilizer because man, it will make

your plants when you plan them.If you throw a handful of Starting Grow
in there, it makes that thingcome on like gangbusters. And uh but
not blah or not long lea topines. But I put a little dose
of Starting Grow a little bit.It's good, lots better. And usually
with starting Grow you don't have toworry about burning anything up. But I
use it heavy, I always have. And uh, I put a good

handful in there with those those pinetrees, and I burn everything on them.
I bet you three of them didn'tmake it out of about three or
four hundred. Oh man, hitthem up so much cheap, so much
for the pine straw plantation. Sonow it never happened. They got plant

they got plantation pines down there.But they're the natural ones. Yeah,
meaning enough. That's how you learn. That's how you learn what to do
and what not to do. Isaid. The school the school of hard
knocks is what they say, right, that's it. Uh huh. You
got a plant side green side up, that's fat. That's another thing that
you got to remember. Yeah,bush is green side up too, that's

right. And don't plant it toodeep, hey, and don't plant it
with a pot on there. That'sright, take the pot off. We've
seen that before. We have seenthat before more than one you know,
what were you were talking about dirtand mixing. So that's a that's a
pretty common question you get. Weget the garden center. You know,
people want to people if you know, soil in our area is loudly I

don't care where you go. Imean, it's rare that you get a
really good right soil base somewhere,and people a lot of people will think
that you dig the hole. Youknow, let's say you're planting a plant.
You dig the hole and you takethat old trash dirt and you throw
it out and you come in andyou put the plant in the hole,
and you put in like good topsoil, you know, potting soil or
something like that in there. Well, that's not what you want to do,
and that's a you know, peoplewant to amend's soil with the old

trashy clay, and you can dothat, but you want to kind of
like you did with your farm,Chris Keith, you want to make a
blend. You take something you takeabout I don't know, seventy percent of
the old dirt and thirty percent oflike amended or you know, a good
topsail or whatever, and you blendthat together and you put it in the
whole the hole with the plant.Because eventually what's going to happen is like

if you take a plant, youput it in a whole hole, you
put it in a hole, andyou put good tops oil in it,
it's not gonna want to get outof that good top soil and it's gonna
sit there and kind of get runaround and get and get root bound.
Or you think about it, andthat plant's eventually it's gonna get out of
that good top soil and it's goingto hit that that trashy dirt and it's
it's going to grow in it anyway. So you do a blended you know,

you do a blended mix. Alot of people will get We've got
some Coast of Maine stuff on seal. We've got different types of fertilan.
I meant people will even take furloan potting soil and mix it in with
their you know, just a backbag of tops oil that we sell the
garden center. They could blend andput that dirt back in the hole.
You know, typically when we're doinga landscape for you, we don't amend

the soil. And the reason whywe don't is because that that plant has
got to get acclimated to the soilaround it. It's it's got to grow
out in that. And even theworst dirt around here. I mean,
if you think about it, youlook out in the woods and there are
big white oaks and majestic you know, maple trees and elms and everything else.

And and you know wild native azaleasand oak leaf y ranges and everything,
you know, all kinds of bushesand privet heads and everything else,
and they grow just fine. Andthe soil that's right here, and uh,
you know, I'll have people askme when I'm out there on their
their yard. Hey, look,you know, aren't you gonna amend that

soul? I said, Well,the guy that blended the bushes that I
just snatched up didn't amend the soil. And you know, I mean they're
overgrown nightmares, you know. AndI'm putting bush bushes right back in here,
and I guarantee you they gonna growtoo. Yep, you know,
I mean, it's just a youknow that's kind of a common sense thing.
Is you know, if I'm atyour house and I'm pulling out shrubs

that are twenty five feet tall andI'm putting back in new stuff, you
ain't got to amend the soil becausethey grew to I mean, look at
what's growing there exactly. I meanlook how they flourished. Yeah, you
just you gotta keep them watered.Hey, I gotta get them going.
That's a huge that's a huge thing. You got to keep them water.
And you got to come in andwith your Zellia evergreen food and put those

things. Talking about dirt, Isent this picture to Jenny the other day.
Look at that good old top soilthat they're laying sod on. Oh
god, oh man. I wasat a I was at a yard and
a new development and livery Parkway area, and that's all shell, like I
guess, like a shell. Itlooks it looks like slate, but it
breaks, you know, it breaksapart. I mean, they're building this

subdivision and they're laying they're laying oldtrashy contractors bermudas on top of a solid
freaking gravel. I'm talking about it. It is horrible. I hate it
well, and then they expect us. It's a three quarter million dollar house
and they're putting like they're putting likefive hundred bucks worth of budget into the

landscape. I'm like, come on, guys, man, and you look,
and it's just as far as youcan see, it's just man,
it's just solid rock everywhere. Iain't putting no tops on. There's some
pallettes and some yeah palets, andsome two by fours, yeah, beer
bottles and chunks of concrete and youname it. Mans. But then they
call us to treat it, andwe're like, yeah, sure. So

it was it was miss miss handI was measuring her yard. We used
to treat her yard in the anothersection of Liberty Parkway. She sold that
house and was staying in an apartmentin a while till she till she got
this house. And she had likea brand new saw. It was late
in February, and you know,just had dead pieces everywhere, and she

was making in a punch list becauseit's a brand new house, and I
think the builder's warranty guy was comingout. So she's going through making a
checklist of you know, all theall the you know, different issues or
things that she's seen, you know, with this and that had some dead
pieces of sod, you know,scattered around, and like I take one
of the pieces of sod and liftedup and it's like baseball sized gravel up

underneath it. And I want tosay, hey, you need to get
these people to come out of hereand take all this side up and put
some good soil in and and uhlay news. But it's just, man,
it's ridiculous. Well, you know, I was telling you about Sam,
my neighbor, and uh, he'sgot above this retaining wae in his
backyard. He's got an area upthere it's just chirt. I mean it's

it's shirt and uh, I'm surethat's part of what's under that and saw
it in that backyard, but it'smore red dirt down in that bottom.
But up there on the side ofthe hill, it is a chirt pit.
And he said, Chris, youknow what can I do up there
on top of the sea. Iso you can plant grass up there.
He's like, huh, I said, yeah, I mean, honestly,

that is better than planting it onninety percent of the new contract or you
know, the new subdivisions that wewe run into all the time. You
can go on the Sam's chirt pitand you can grow grass on it better
than you can in ninety percent ofthe subdivisions that we it nowadays because they

do such a crappy job of preppingfor that soul they do. But to
the point where, like a lotof the new subdivisions, we actually have
to tweak our fertilizer a little bitto get it established and to get it
green. Basically, so we doour we do our job making it and
you have to be a little bitpatient, you know. It's uh,

it just it takes longer. Youknow. You could take a like a
landscape job that we do where wecome in and convert like a Bermuda yard
into a zoisy yard in an establishedneighborhood, and you can come in there
and lay side in March and youwant, you can be able to see
the seams of that stuff come likeJune July. It just it roots really
really fast into into that good soiland it just takes off super super quick.

Well, in some of these newersubdivisions like that, it just it
takes a little bit longer to getthat grass established, you know, to
get the soil, you know,kind of refertilized basically because they've come in
and screened off all the top soilso that they can basically get to like
a hard pan surface so they cancore pour the concrete slab and not have

settling issues. So it's basically sodslaid on nothing but gravel. So you
got to just you got to givea little bit more time. You got
to do some extra fertilizer to it. And the biggest thing is keep it
water when it gets hot and dry, man, because it's such rocky soil
that grass dries out so fast,oh my gosh. And water. And
we'll talk well, I guess we'llhit on water and when we come back,

because I mean we're gonna get ina hot dry spell. And if
you plant in plants within the lastyear or you did sod you know this
spring so far, you're going toreally have to stay in tune. Yeah,
with keeping things watered moving forward forsure. Chris. Let's take a
break, this last break of theshow. If you want to get in
the last minute call, you'll haveto do it right now. It's two
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and whit whit break. We're talkingabout watering and u man. This time
of year, it is gonna bealright. So riding over here, Chris,
you know, we were talking aboutchicken litter. We've been talking about
chicken litter ever since I put iton my guarden. Well I put it

on my garden, you know,but everybody, every farm from here to
Springville put out chicken litter on theirpastures back all the time, same time.
So I when you I walked outChris's back door over here three weeks
ago, and I just kind ofshook my head. I was like,
boy, the Birchs, Boy,they have done it, and the Simmonss
have done it, and the Tuckershave done it, and up down that

and boy, now there hay fieldsare smoking. Yes, they look good.
So it's that time of year wherein the next week or so we're
gonna hit that hot dry spell,you know, week ten, two weeks,
you know, two week, tendays, fourteen days out, we're
gonna hit a dry spell. Andif you think about it, we've been

in kind of dry sp I mean, there's been a pop up shower here
and there across town, but forthe most part, we ain't got a
lot of rain, and so it'sabout to get hot and dry enough you'll
see these guys start dropping hay likeit's dropping it like it's hot. I'm
talking about. You'll start seeing,you know, twenty thirty fifty acres of

hay hit the ground and in aday they're trying to get it fluffed.
And you know, belt and didall that stuff. But that's the time
of year where you have to startpaying attention to your new shrubs, you
know, the stuff you planted likelast December. You know, we were
telling you back then, hey,look you can take up and you take
the next four or five months off. Well, then four or five months

are over with and you got tostart taking care of those plants. And
you know, unless you've got adrip system or something like that that we've
installed for you, don't rely onirrigation. You know, go out there,
make sure the plants are hand wateryou good. Do a good soaking,
you know, ten seconds fifteen secondsper plant, go through each one

of them, soak them good,come back through fifteen seconds each plant.
Get a good soaking on those thingsabout two or three times a week.
You know, for depending on yoursoul, you may have to do a
little more, you may have todo a little less, you know,
watering is not It's not an exactscience. And we could preach for two

hours on water and we still wouldn'tcover everybody's basis. So you got to
start right now, you know,and paying attention to your grass, pay
attention to your shrubs, and yougot to keep it water. I mean
New Side. If you've done newsod, you cannot let that stuff get
too dry. That's what Jill andI were talking about in Liberty Park.
You know. She asked me howmuch that she needed water, and I

was like, you know, whenwe get hot in Dragra hand for water
this stuff every day. You mighteven have to water it twice a day.
And she was fortunate enough that she'sbeen with a customer of ours,
and she's like, I don't needto water it like real heavy though,
right. I was like, no, you just you know, you can
come in and you can do lightwatering on New Side, but you do
it all often versus an established yardwhere you do it infrequently and deeply because

those roots can travel deeper down intothe end of the soil. But plants
that you did last spring, chrisKey, plants are under your care for
a couple of years before they've becomeestablished enough to really withstand dry spills.
So if you plant it stuff anytimein twenty twenty three, you got to
pay attention to it. It's andtreat it like it's that new puppy.
You know. You need to goout and look at it just about every

day and make sure that it's notgetting too dry and wilted, because once
the plant gets too dry, it'sgonna get damaged. You're gonna have brown
leaves on it, it's gonna terruptthe blooming cycle. And it's really got
to pay attention to that kind ofstuff. Yeap, drag some hoses around
if you don't have irrigation. Yeah, so watering is a big imp of
the next couple of months. Iemployed my wife, Sarah on and she

has her water and duties with allmy bed and plants and everything. I
planted four limelight hydrangeas and she washaving having the water those things every day
for the first for the first coupleof weeks, because I mean we were
in the you know, load ofmid eighties and we hadn't had any rain.
And you could see him in theafternoon if she if she didn't water
them in the morning, you couldsee him in the afternoon, how they
were kind of drooping because soils rockywhere I put them for sure. Well,

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