Chapter Five: Chicken Joint Séance

After taking sewer tunnels to escape their past, will a psychic reading tell of a similarly dark future? Featuring stories on the Marburg Virus, Ashley's of Rockledge, Helena Blavatsky

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:15):
Welcome back to Fort Fritz. I am your host. Fritz
joined us always by a co host, man Daddy, Bye, Urrie.
He nixed priye salutations in Angela.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
Hello.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
All right, so that was not great.

Speaker 3 (00:29):
None of this is great. This is discussing.

Speaker 4 (00:30):
I don't know, guys.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
If if doesn't cover this up, we are all royally screwed.

Speaker 3 (00:34):
No, I'm not really sure he's gonna pull through on that.
I was gonna say, how about do you know this
guy he's gonna cover this up for.

Speaker 5 (00:39):
In a while?

Speaker 1 (00:40):
Also, would they really zombies?

Speaker 6 (00:44):
We're going to attack us?

Speaker 4 (00:45):
Though?

Speaker 1 (00:45):
Right, we're not in the wrong.

Speaker 5 (00:47):
They looked old and we killed them. I don't know
if the attack. Did they attack or do we just kill?

Speaker 1 (00:50):
Yeah, I'm asking you, guys, I don't care either way.

Speaker 7 (00:53):
I think is going to show that they were zombies,
and that's how I'm gonna cope with that.

Speaker 4 (00:56):
That's it.

Speaker 5 (00:57):
Yeah, It's either that or blood rage.

Speaker 1 (00:59):
Guys, screwed.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
It was a battle, it was a war.

Speaker 1 (01:01):
Let's just move on ourselves.

Speaker 5 (01:03):
I'm hungry.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
Let's go to the chicken hungry chicken.

Speaker 5 (01:06):
Joints sounds so good right now? You know what I
could really go for if we go there chicken Yeah, yeah, yeah,
they do really well there. Just in case anyone's never
tried the menu.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
I have to say that this is one of the
nicer tunnels we've been in so far. Yeah, for sure.
It does smell like fried chicken. It's yeah, there's a trail,
there's an ac unit.

Speaker 4 (01:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
I would like to kind of wash off in some
of this water. But I think this is the brown
or touch. I don't think it seems like.

Speaker 6 (01:31):
This isn't where it seems like water comes from.

Speaker 4 (01:32):
Is it.

Speaker 5 (01:33):
I hope not. I hope god, I hope not.

Speaker 1 (01:35):
I would never drink this looks a little chunk here, and.

Speaker 5 (01:37):
It's got some I dare say, floaters in it. Yeah,
don't bathe in the floater.

Speaker 1 (01:42):
So it looks like straight ahead is the chicken joint.
Because of that big sign?

Speaker 5 (01:47):
What help?

Speaker 6 (01:47):
What else would be here? We put a sign in
the sewer exactly what.

Speaker 5 (01:51):
I guess. It's the main entrance. I it's like a
sewer entrance, only now they have.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
Par conditioning in here.

Speaker 6 (01:55):
How do people do they accommodate here?

Speaker 1 (01:57):
Let's just get up the steps. I'm so hungry.

Speaker 5 (02:01):
Yeah, theirs and hunger do not match. That's not a
good thing. Upstairs, go ahead and.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
Open up that door and that little trap door up here's.

Speaker 5 (02:24):
A right.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
You are, that is awesome.

Speaker 5 (02:37):
I have covered in guano and this is just one
of them.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
You know, guys, this was who did that?

Speaker 8 (02:48):
It sucks literally right below that trap door and they
just all crapped right on.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
This is not good, guys. I know that we just
like promise ourselves we weren't going to jump to conclusions
and mass murder people anymore. But this is actually I
think I think we're doomed now.

Speaker 3 (03:02):
Really now, I think this is very bad, all of us.

Speaker 5 (03:04):
Now that God is going to come and consume me. Now,
there's only one thing that's going to help the situation.

Speaker 1 (03:10):
See your clothes though, man, Daddy, that guan is valuable. Yeah,
you want to sue?

Speaker 5 (03:13):
True? If I if I could set myself on fire
and be a wick for like three weeks, if you
guys want that, if you know, even need some.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
Warmth, set out to a cosmetics company, you are gonna
want to probably burn yourself before anything happens to you.
Because I think.

Speaker 6 (03:26):
We're take the clothes off first.

Speaker 1 (03:28):
We're probably all we're probably all infected. Right now.

Speaker 5 (03:32):
Infected Wait wait, wait, who met me? Infected with who?

Speaker 4 (03:35):
Now?

Speaker 5 (03:35):
With what? Now?

Speaker 1 (03:36):
And we're gonna die soon? Infected all of us infect Yeah, no,
you definitely here, But I'm saying for the rest of us,
we're doomed. Have you, guys heard of Marburg virus? No?

Speaker 5 (03:47):
No, gonna tell me, I'm gonna die great.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
In the German cities of Marburg and Frankfurt, a mysterious
disease was spreading in early August nineteen sixty seven. Oh
The signs and symptoms were novel, and university hospital doctors
were puzzled as micrographs of the virus showed unique Shepherd's
crooks in the physical shapes of you and six bundled together.

(04:14):
What this is the U six sewer tunnel, guys?

Speaker 6 (04:18):
Great.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
The patients were then treated at nearby hospitals, some dying
the day after admission of the What of the thirty
two infective? How many do you think died?

Speaker 5 (04:29):
Thirty four of the thirty two?

Speaker 1 (04:31):
You think thirty four died? Okay, I'm thirty two for
Murray twenty eight twenty eight from Angela. Go prices right,
number tier and let's go with one dollar. Well, Nick,
spry circle gets the square because seven died well, they
were not fat. Just wait. This grim and infamous introduction
to one of the rarest and most severe diseases the

(04:52):
world has seen would be named the Marburg virus because
the frank Ft virus sounded delicious. Yeah, hankered for a
hot dog. I can't he got that right. Initially, the
origins were traced back to a pharmaceutical laboratory, as several
lab workers employed at the Brenvka Industrial Plant and Marburg

(05:13):
were patient zero. At that same time, the Yugoslav capital
Belgrade also had cases with lab workers presenting the same symptoms.
The three cities had one common denominator. All patients were
conducting tests on a shipment of Grivet monkeys, also known
as the African green monkey. Monkey, Monkey, It's a great

(05:36):
song from the sixties. In Germany, these scientists were performing
necropsies on the animals, while in Belgrade live testing of
vaccines caused the infection. All of the animals came from
the same shipment originating from Africa, which usually shipped from
Uganda directly to Frankfurt. However, the Sixth Day War prevented

(05:56):
this and instead the cargo went to London as of
an airport strike. It stayed there in an animal storage
area for two days. Wait had a oh, I don't
know if it's a thrower.

Speaker 3 (06:07):
Out et lunch, I don't know. Nineteen sixty seven. But
they actually do have an entire amazing like vet wild
Animal exotic animal section. There's a whole documentary on it right.
A lot of like zoo animals go through there. Like
that's like the customs where they check them and make
sure they're don't have any sicknesses, like they have quarantine
for a couple days. It's a fascinating thing.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
The animals are believed to have been in Uganda, but
there is a possibility they were exposed to other animals
and myriad substances while in London after it was shipped
to Frankfurt, Marburg and Belgrade, where the virus made the
jump to humans. In nineteen seventy five, skipping forward, an
Australian male journey to Zimbabwe to explore bat inhabited caves.

(06:50):
He soon exhibited symptoms in Johannesburg, such as fever, headache,
muscle pains and vomiting before he died a few days later.

Speaker 6 (06:57):
How's everyone feeling.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
It was then scientists that bats carrying the virus could
infect humans through droppings mandaddy, high your joints, mandaddy. The
main suspect in this case was the Old World Egyptian
fruit bat, very cute, found all over Africa, the Middle East,
the Indian subcontinent, and the Mediterranean. It's like a whole
different ferngully down here. Since nineteen sixty seven, there have

(07:21):
been over a dozen incidents and six outbreaks, mostly localized
to Africa. However, a few isolated cases occurred in the
Soviet Union in nineteen eighty eight and ninety and the
Netherlands and the United States in two thousand and eight.
Oh and that was when the patient went back to
the United States and he was immediately quarantined. Now, Marburg
virus predates the Ebola virus in discovery by nearly a decade,

(07:45):
around eight years. Yet the two diseases are indistinguishable, and
Marburg virus is considered the cousin of Ebola virus. It's
a bad one that showed me deadly diseases. Details concerning
signs and symptoms come from the well documented multinational outbreak
in two thousand and eight and The following comes from

(08:09):
that period. The incubation phase is generally day one to
twenty one, so within that range, we're going to break
that down with averages of five to nine days. The
generalization phase from day one to five are the aforementioned fever, aches,
and nausea, along with vomiting, diarrhea, conjunctivitis, and a non

(08:31):
itchy skin Rashow at.

Speaker 5 (08:33):
Least it's not itchy. At least it's not itchy.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (08:35):
This is when like the virus is just knocking on
different cell walls and that's.

Speaker 5 (08:38):
Moved in neighborhood. It's after register. No problem here.

Speaker 1 (08:43):
It's replicating so fast that the body has to shut
down a little bit. Oh boy, this is great. The
organ phase from day five to thirteen includes dyspnia or
labored breathing, a dema or fluid retention, and central nervousness.
Them symptoms like encephalitis, confusion, delirium, apathy, and aggression.

Speaker 6 (09:07):
That's a very fast escalation.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
Apathy is right next to.

Speaker 5 (09:14):
That's me.

Speaker 3 (09:16):
That's true, You've always had this if it's birth.

Speaker 1 (09:19):
Yeah. Later there are heemorrhagic symptoms, including bloody stools. So
this is like the body, just bleeding, bloody stools, bruising blood,
leakage from ventipuncture sites such as ivy, mucosal which is
ie ear and mouth, and visceral which is bodily organ
imaging YEP, and possibly hamatomeysis that's the vomiting of blood.

(09:45):
Still there's an opportunity for full recovery. Despite this phase really.

Speaker 3 (09:50):
Doesn't sound at all.

Speaker 5 (09:51):
You have to be Magic Johnson with money.

Speaker 1 (09:54):
So the phase right before this was the organ phase.
The late organ phase, it's worse. The late organ phase
is from day thirteen up to at least twenty one days,
and I say at least because that's when people die.
Here is where the survivors split from the discedents. For
the convalescent patient, symptoms include muscle and widespread body pains, hepatitis,

(10:17):
vision issues, and psychosis. But you can recover. The unlucky
will suffer from confusion, comas, convulsions, loss of coagulation in
the blood, shock, and ultimately death. Between days eight to sixteen.
Oh wow, the fatality rate has fluctuated from twenty three

(10:39):
to ninety percent per incident, which means the death median
for Marburg virus is eighty percent, making it the most
fatal of all known viruses e percent. The only treatment
is supportive with IV fluids, pain management, and antibiotics or
antifungals for secondary symptoms. The good news. The good news

(10:59):
is that vaccine candidate has been developed and found to
be successful in non human primates like grivets and man daddies.

Speaker 5 (11:06):
Hey, I'm again how convenient.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
In fact, it could protect against both Marburg and Ebola
virus because tests showed no evidence of reinfection. It's like
a negative reactivity or whatever it's called. If you had Marburg,
you might not get Ebola and vice versa. So if
you survive Ebola, you're not going to get Marberg.

Speaker 6 (11:29):
That's kind of like a chicken pox and shingles.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
Yeah, exactly. Yeah, but nobody's really willing to test that.

Speaker 5 (11:34):
You could have a kid, have all your kids over
for an ebola party. Lets let's get.

Speaker 8 (11:40):
So, did they ever find a link between those green
monkeys and the bats, like some some.

Speaker 5 (11:45):
Origin points going on with the monkeys and them bats
that somebody ate a bat.

Speaker 1 (11:50):
No, because there's no way to know what was in
that airport for them to kind of like cohabit. But
at the same time, the six Day War was between Israel,
Arab States and each so there is a possibility that
Egyptian fruit bats were in the same area as the
Grivet monkeys.

Speaker 5 (12:05):
Just a big old animal orgie going on.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
Here's the bad news. Human trials have been inconclusive or unsuccessful.
Who really cares, though me because there hasn't been enough
quantitative data cases or deaths quite frankly to warrant mass
research and certainly not mass production. The cost of handling
the virus, along with the number of qualified facilities, means

(12:28):
there isn't enough commercial interest at the moment. That's because
it overwhelmingly affects poor countries all in Africa. But wait,
it gets worse. The World Health Organization classified Marberg virus
as having true pandemic capabilities. Now it isn't airborne, but
if bodily fluids slough off or whatever touch someone else.

(12:51):
It's currently listed as a category A bioterrorism agent in
the US, in the same group as anthrax, smallpox, and
the plague.

Speaker 6 (12:59):
It's a big one.

Speaker 5 (13:00):
But you got to get mad because the plague is
the play ye know, I mean, it's gotten the name.
That's the plague.

Speaker 1 (13:05):
Yeah, that's not something. You're like, yeah, I got the plague.
So it's a category a bioterrorism agent. And this might
be because the Soviet Union reportedly dedicated an entire institute
to enhancing its biohazard.

Speaker 3 (13:19):
Oh that's great.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
This was led by doctor Nikolai Ustinov until he contracted
the disease and died.

Speaker 3 (13:27):
He should great name, though.

Speaker 1 (13:29):
His post mortem revealed samples of Marburg virus exponentially more
powerful than the original strain, now what you say, But
thankfully it wasn't entirely in vain. This new strain, called
variant you had been tested, successfully weaponized, and approved by

(13:50):
the Soviet Ministry of Defense in nineteen ninety the reds.

Speaker 5 (13:57):
And that's uh, that's what we stand there. Totally got
you guys, have a chance. I am literally.

Speaker 3 (14:07):
I know I got rid of it.

Speaker 5 (14:08):
You think that will take me down a little boy?
I will snap you in half with my mind.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
All right, let's go get some chicken. All right, I'm starving.

Speaker 6 (14:18):
Do you see anything up there?

Speaker 5 (14:20):
Wow?

Speaker 1 (14:20):
That is a long one. It makes so good in
your This is a really long line though.

Speaker 8 (14:24):
You got like Disney barricades up looks winy, smells like chickenicket.

Speaker 5 (14:28):
I can totally smell guano, but I can.

Speaker 9 (14:30):
Hope how much money did you have?

Speaker 5 (14:37):
Let me see? Uh me?

Speaker 6 (14:41):
We left the fort so quickly.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
Yeah, thank you for that? All right? Oh yeah, oh yeah,
you just lived there.

Speaker 5 (14:48):
Oh wait, I gotta I have a bunch of cryptom.

Speaker 1 (14:51):
And Daddy looked crypto and NFT is not son of
are right there?

Speaker 5 (14:55):
I was going to pay with a monkey cartoon.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
Let's take a break, counter money and best here, get
up to here, let's order and try to get some food.
And does that work for everyone?

Speaker 5 (15:05):
Gets afterwards? I'm hungry and all right.

Speaker 1 (15:09):
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Speaker 6 (15:32):
No, no, I've never read so hungry in my life.

Speaker 5 (15:37):
You know what, it sucks?

Speaker 1 (15:38):
I like it as much. It's unbelievable to me that
five people have seven dollars and twenty three cents in
their pocket and you guys get one bucket of chicken
and one small side of waffle fries, knowing that that's
the only thing I can eat chicken.

Speaker 5 (15:55):
We've been through some hard times we got a tack
by bats eat some chicken.

Speaker 6 (15:58):
They were so good. You weren't fast enough. I'm sorry, man,
but no you're not.

Speaker 5 (16:02):
I'm not imagine they're bats and you're eating them angrily?

Speaker 1 (16:04):
What is this? The buckets of chickens?

Speaker 3 (16:09):
Ohets of chicken?

Speaker 1 (16:11):
Wait on the house.

Speaker 5 (16:12):
This is a bunch of chicken right here.

Speaker 1 (16:15):
There's four buckets of chicken, and you each now have
a bucket of chicken.

Speaker 7 (16:18):
Angle and I have been coming every Wednesday night for
the last four years and we've never gotten free food.

Speaker 6 (16:23):
What did you guys do?

Speaker 5 (16:24):
Have you seen us? Look at the majesty of the
people you're looking at. I mean, we come in and
three chicken just gets thrown at us, because.

Speaker 1 (16:31):
Yeah, we're in the prime of our lives.

Speaker 3 (16:33):
Like saying that with Oliver, thank you?

Speaker 5 (16:35):
Well, I mean yeah, but I wear it well like
a hilly seat.

Speaker 1 (16:38):
Everybody's everybody's here's leaving. You know, they're being ushered out?
Actually are they getting kicked out? Maybe I should sell
it for a viral suspicious No, No, it's much more spacious.

Speaker 4 (16:52):
I'm gonna go.

Speaker 1 (16:53):
See if I can get a Coca col No, there's
no telling, all right, I can't catch a break here.

Speaker 3 (17:00):
Don't feel that chills?

Speaker 5 (17:02):
Well, I mean my body is covered in a caking
of guanos.

Speaker 1 (17:05):
Yeah, I am getting chills though it is chili in here.

Speaker 6 (17:08):
Drafty chili, not like fever chills.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
Like I just you hear that noise? Well, this creep
me out?

Speaker 5 (17:14):
Is there? There's no one else in here now, So
if you're hearing footsteps, it's not us.

Speaker 1 (17:18):
It looks like the manager is closing up the show.

Speaker 3 (17:21):
Okay, but I'm hearing more than that.

Speaker 5 (17:24):
How many footsteps are you hearing?

Speaker 1 (17:25):
Lots? Why I'm not touching my shoulders?

Speaker 3 (17:30):
Something touch Okay? Seriously, you know this is reminding me
of what have you guys ever heard of? Ashley's Rockledge?

Speaker 6 (17:39):
It's something here, we are, here, we.

Speaker 3 (17:43):
Go, y'all.

Speaker 5 (17:46):
It's like you're about to set it.

Speaker 3 (17:47):
Up, all right. So Ashley's of Rockledge, by the way,
still a restaurant in Rockledge, Florida. So rock Ledge, if
you don't know, it's a.

Speaker 6 (17:58):
Little town in Florida.

Speaker 3 (17:59):
It is the oldest city in Brevard County, Okay, And
it's between Melbourne and Coco, just west of merrit Island. Soay,
it's like across the Indian River from Merret Island, very
close to Cape Canaver and all that. This is from
a YouTube video from twenty fifteen called Florida Today. There's
doctor Ben Broda Marcle Yep, that's his name.

Speaker 1 (18:22):
That's a great name.

Speaker 3 (18:24):
He is part of the Florida Historical Society. He says
that Ashley's of Rockledge is notorious worldwide for its haunts there.

Speaker 1 (18:33):
It is a very famous haunt here in central Florida.

Speaker 3 (18:36):
There are some reports that say that Ashley's was an
old train station that was built in like the twenties
or thirties. Nineteen twenties or thirties. We have to say
that now, yes, yes, that burnt down, but that's not true.
It was actually built in nineteen thirty three by entrepreneur
Jack Allen. I'm I'm assuming he built this like the

(18:59):
day after the repeal of prohibition, because like that was
like December fifth of nineteen thirty three. So since it
was owned by this guy Jack Allen, they just called
it Jack's Tavern. Jack's Tavern nineteen thirty three. Classy joint.
Men would wear their top huts, their coats with the
with the tails and everything. Women would dress in their

(19:19):
finest clothes.

Speaker 6 (19:20):
Little monicle.

Speaker 3 (19:21):
Yes, exactly, very fancy, especially nineteen thirty three in Florida.

Speaker 1 (19:25):
Like geez yeah, signed photo of mister Peanut on the man.

Speaker 3 (19:28):
I would love the inspiration. Yes, it was in a
great location right by a major highway near a railroad.
It's been a tavern in a pub four years. Okay,
Jack's Tavern. Then it was Cooney's Tavern. Then it was
called the Mad Duchess.

Speaker 1 (19:47):
Nice I would go drink there.

Speaker 3 (19:49):
Wait, then the Loose Caboose. Yeah all wait then oh,
this one's great sparrow hawk and they're amazing, I know.
And then it was gentlemen Gyms before it became Ashley's
a rock Ledge in nineteen eighty five. So it's the
town favorite still to this day, a local watering hole.

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It's got pub, food, drinks and haunts. So again YouTube
Florida Today, twenty fifteen, there's this guy. He's a ghost hunter.
His name is Steve Kurtzkey and Kurtskey he goes to
the restaurant every Monday from five thirty pm to nine
pm to just discuss all these haunts and legends with customers.

(20:34):
So it just shows up on Mondays and just talks
about things.

Speaker 1 (20:36):
The original ghost tour.

Speaker 6 (20:37):
Yeah, and he.

Speaker 3 (20:39):
Says he's taking pictures of them. He's to used thermal
video something called spirit.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
Boxe Oh yes, yeah, that's insane. I think I've sent
a couple of videos to murray. Those are insane.

Speaker 5 (20:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (20:51):
These photos include something of a little girl. She's like
the little girl upstairs who was apparently run over on
the highway near I don't know what year this happened,
but he describes her personality as being very prank like
and childlike. He also has a thermal image of a
tall woman in an old time dress found in the hallway.

(21:13):
YadA YadA, Yeah, that ole thing. He also explained that
due to the background of this place, it's actually a
designated historic site, so no one's gonna be knocking it
down and creating. It becomes like a little tourist as
well for people to go there.

Speaker 1 (21:32):
It's not hurt anything, built in clientele of just.

Speaker 3 (21:35):
Drunk historians have like rock Ledge too, like even today
that is like such a small town, there's really not
that much going on over there. Over the years, there's
been like psychic led investigations, so like local police officers
were called there, there's some other spirit there, like they
nickname her Sarah. She's been accused of harassing employees.

Speaker 1 (21:56):
Really quick though, So if cops were called there, there
would be police records, right, Yes, maybe not if if
there's not anything to investigate, well, it's still being called out,
would be flagged for something.

Speaker 3 (22:06):
Yeah, I would assume it has to be something, because
they'll probably have to take the names down to those
girls just in case.

Speaker 1 (22:12):
They Yeah, even if it's a misuse of nine correct
and correct.

Speaker 3 (22:15):
Yeah, lady in the dress Sarah and Sarah got it?

Speaker 1 (22:21):
Do you guys still have the mac and cheese to
take that?

Speaker 3 (22:24):
Go home to the missus. Another story says that two
girls like rushed to the police station after entering the
locked building. They went to find a man. He was
like bursting down the stairs talking about having this is
very Robert Durst killed them all.

Speaker 1 (22:39):
Oh, so like a psychotic event.

Speaker 3 (22:42):
Yeah, so these girls were saying, like there was a
guy in there. They go to the restaurant, the police
want to go check on it, and the door was unlocked,
but there was no trace of anybody and the manager
said she locked it herself, like, so there was just
no explanation of like why there was some guy in
there there was another According to Today News paper, there's
a former manager Judy Cowells in eineteen eighty two. She

(23:04):
went to go like check the restroom before leaving, and
she looked and saw like two boots like legs underneath
the stall and went the went to go check on
it again and like turn the light on, and it
was totally empty. She goes, I looked and I saw
this for a couple of seconds. She's like, I noticed
it because it was all because I'd never seen anybody
wear those kinds of shoes before, so like stood out

(23:25):
to her like these were very old timey or like
unique looking booths. In addition, sometimes the water in the
basin of the sink will like turn on unexpectedly, and
a few people have seen an image of a young
woman in the restroom mirror like blooding all yes, like
the shining yes. So Ashley's with this might explained the

(23:47):
lady in the mirror. Ashley's is also the last known
sight where Ethel Allen not related to Jack Allen. Apparently
Jack Allen's the guy who created Yeah built the place.
So Ashley's is the site where ethel Allen and when
Brevard's most brutal homicide victims was seen.

Speaker 1 (24:03):
Oh, still to this day, one of the.

Speaker 3 (24:05):
Most brutal homicide victims. What's going on Bvard County?

Speaker 1 (24:10):
Another location she was killed.

Speaker 3 (24:16):
She was about eighteen years old. She was born in
nineteen sixteen. She was a very free spirited teenager, as
they say. I think her spirit got a little too free.
This was when it was still Jack's Tavern. Because this
was like right in nineteen thirty four. I believe she
was a regular at the restaurant. She came from a
broken home. She lived in a boarding house. Some people

(24:37):
have suggested she was a quote unquote lady of the night,
possibly vampire. Yes, she had a tattoo on her thigh
which was a rose with a noose around it. That's
pretty cool, right, pretty metal, right.

Speaker 1 (24:52):
It's a badass tattoo.

Speaker 3 (24:54):
So she was last seen one night in nineteen thirty
four with a man named William Billy Wilson Willie Wilson
Bill Bill until her body was found mutilated burned on
the bank of the Indian River. Investigators suspected Billy Wilson
was responsible for the murder, but there was no motive,

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there was nothing ever confirmed, and they were also unable
to find him. So therefore no one was ever arrested
or charged with her murder.

Speaker 1 (25:24):
Four investigating techniques.

Speaker 3 (25:27):
And you know, if it was rumored that she was
like somehow a sex worker, a lot of people don't
hold those people in those jobs as high value or
that anyone's going to quote unquote miss.

Speaker 1 (25:38):
These society has never done that. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (25:40):
So once they couldn't find the one suspect, they were like,
well you can't find him, don't really know what to do,
and wouldn't move on. Yeah, so her body was found
by the river. Many patrons there are psychics and then
of course paranormal investigators. They visit that place and they
think that the murder actually occurred inside of the restaurant.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
That would makes sense.

Speaker 3 (26:01):
There was a psychic that claimed that she was actually
chased down the stairs and stabbed before dying in the restroom.
Hence why people see her in the mirror where they
get that feeling of someone being in the bathroom. And
again there's all these reports, they have, all these like
approximate times. Everything's just mostly in years or not even dates.
It's just like nineteen thirty four, as happened to this girl, like,

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I don't know how many days it was since like
which was softener like and then she was found in
the river.

Speaker 5 (26:28):
So what's crazy is that where we are all people
that watch true crime documentaries everything, and we're watching stuff
that is like sometimes from the seventies or eighties, and
you could see how slap shot it was then, yeah,
and so to imagine going back to the thirties now
they're just like, yeah.

Speaker 3 (26:47):
It's still terrible. Now, I'm barely getting too done right.
Ever since then, strange occurrences, such as objects moving on
their own. People will feel kind of tapped or pushed.
Even as recent as like twenty twenty three, there were
some servers that reported feeling almost pushed down the stairs.
It's a two story restaurant. That's like, maybe it's just Becky, just.

Speaker 1 (27:09):
So many issues with this staircase inside of this place.
Why don't they just put it in an elevator exactly?

Speaker 3 (27:14):
They probably have one now, but they're still stairs. So
what happened to ethel Alan? I think she's trying to
tell us.

Speaker 1 (27:20):
Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, spooky.

Speaker 3 (27:23):
Her body is buried in Crooked Mile Cemetery also known
as Georgian Cemetery on Merritt Island.

Speaker 5 (27:30):
What a cool.

Speaker 1 (27:32):
It's legit.

Speaker 6 (27:33):
I looked it up.

Speaker 3 (27:34):
It's Crooked Mile Cemetery. It's also known as George.

Speaker 6 (27:39):
I love it.

Speaker 3 (27:40):
Her tombstone, I said, just her name Ethel Allen nineteen
sixteen to nineteen thirty four, are no specific dates, so
she was like seventeen eighteen years old. She's someone left
these like cement like bunnies at her tombstone, like a
little like yeah, yes, But I think that her spirit
is hopping around Ashley's of rock Ledge, trying to tell

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her story to this day.

Speaker 5 (28:07):
Little ghost bunnies hopping around telling the murder.

Speaker 1 (28:10):
That's beautiful.

Speaker 3 (28:11):
All I'm saying is this is freaky in here?

Speaker 6 (28:14):
Does this place upstairs? We just called up?

Speaker 5 (28:16):
He came up.

Speaker 1 (28:19):
It always looks like it's a big place from the
outside because I've never, you know, obviously used the sewer
entrance before. But from the outside it always looks like
it's a bigger place than it is. But I don't
know what they have in the I don't know.

Speaker 5 (28:33):
It's like a reverse testa racket. It looks huge from
outside inside it's just us.

Speaker 1 (28:37):
So Angela, you're saying that there's a ghost again.

Speaker 5 (28:42):
He gets nervous.

Speaker 1 (28:49):
Is this vegan chicken?

Speaker 5 (28:49):
There's no vegan chicken.

Speaker 1 (28:51):
Man, you don't know that.

Speaker 4 (28:53):
Where does this come from?

Speaker 5 (28:57):
Jesus with the scary chicken?

Speaker 1 (29:00):
Hey, you're the manager, right. I think I saw you
earlier doing the old like Gustav Fring.

Speaker 2 (29:07):
I saw you went and I noticed what type of
individuals you were, and I thought that maybe you were
in need of my assistance.

Speaker 4 (29:15):
Welcome to my chicken joint.

Speaker 5 (29:19):
We've been fans for a while.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
Hey, Sabrina working tonight.

Speaker 4 (29:23):
No, Sabrina has left for the.

Speaker 2 (29:32):
By the way, my name is deb Is that short
for anything?

Speaker 8 (29:37):
Okay, it's like one of those those old timy names
like Sureley and Leslie that.

Speaker 4 (29:42):
Yeah, it's a family name.

Speaker 6 (29:44):
Definitely, nice to meet you. Thanks for the checking here.

Speaker 1 (29:49):
Why why why was the restaurant closed down?

Speaker 4 (29:51):
Well, as I said.

Speaker 1 (29:53):
After hours, should we leave?

Speaker 5 (29:54):
Should we?

Speaker 4 (29:55):
No? No? No, you are my yes, Yeah for the even.

Speaker 2 (29:58):
I saw the five of you walk up in here,
and I noticed that there was a power that you
had about You were.

Speaker 5 (30:07):
Tired, we were hungry, and we were poor.

Speaker 6 (30:09):
It's been a really long time.

Speaker 4 (30:11):
There's more than that.

Speaker 1 (30:13):
Can you do this for all the customers that come
in here.

Speaker 2 (30:15):
With no that's there is a Mali. You have a
lot of spirits following you. It's like it's like the
restroom matter cure concepts.

Speaker 5 (30:36):
Just a bunch of sadness and bad smells. Great, I
got the bad smell.

Speaker 4 (30:42):
I feel like you all might need my assistance?

Speaker 1 (30:45):
How about this?

Speaker 6 (30:46):
Since are you willing to offer?

Speaker 5 (30:48):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (30:48):
All right, deb this is the kind of life I'm
living right now. I'm hungry. Is I got nothing to eat?
You keep giving chicken to these assholes? I got nothing.
I'm gonna getting mad hungry right now. And I got
a late uncle. I got to find his means and
a fort and I'm pissed off about it because he
also wants me to stay the night. Who asks that after.

Speaker 2 (31:10):
Eighteen I have two answers. One, all you had to
do was ask for fries. That's really all you had
to do.

Speaker 4 (31:19):
He just has to have.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
You have barbecues.

Speaker 4 (31:24):
It's just sure, it's right, heed.

Speaker 5 (31:27):
I get one more.

Speaker 2 (31:29):
And the second thing is is that I.

Speaker 4 (31:33):
Am able to assist you by providing a sale.

Speaker 5 (31:38):
We've never done a sound how have we never done?

Speaker 2 (31:41):
We never, We've never done because you probably haven't had
an experience, say on Sier like myself.

Speaker 5 (31:48):
You say that I got but with the spirits.

Speaker 6 (31:51):
Yeah, so can you contact anyone?

Speaker 4 (31:54):
Who do you want to talk to?

Speaker 1 (31:56):
Well?

Speaker 7 (31:56):
I mean there's one specific person I could make our
job a lot easier here.

Speaker 1 (32:01):
Yeah, all right, Marie, I will tell the story if
you insist. So my late uncle Felix Fritz. Do you
know him? It seems like intimately, oh you really do.
It does seem like this property is on his back
forty If you could just ask him where his body
is or whatever, that would be all that would make
this a lot SIMI.

Speaker 7 (32:20):
Yeah, yeah, it's been a long few days and we
could have just you know, let's just jump to the
end here.

Speaker 2 (32:24):
It might shorten the season, though, So why don't you
follow me upstairs to my salon and we will.

Speaker 1 (32:32):
Start with the same Are you touching me?

Speaker 4 (32:34):
Why would not?

Speaker 5 (32:35):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (32:35):
My okay, we just talked.

Speaker 1 (32:37):
About the spooky stairs. We gotta go on stairs now. No, no, no,
I'm not I fumbling, It's okay. So there are there
is a second guys, I've never been upstairs at the
Chicken joined before.

Speaker 3 (32:50):
In otherwise one.

Speaker 1 (32:51):
This is tighter.

Speaker 6 (32:52):
Now, this is the first time here.

Speaker 4 (32:53):
This is my private said.

Speaker 1 (32:56):
This is tight. Let's take a break and then let's
get up to a stranger's salon. You're listening to Fort Fritz. Hello,
welcome back to Fort Fritz. I am Fritz. Of course,
I am joined as always by co host Man Daddy. Hi, Angela, Hello,

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Nick Bride, so excited Marie and our seance master slash
manager of the Chicken Joint, Deb And can I just
get a round of applause to Deb?

Speaker 6 (33:28):
Thank you so much?

Speaker 1 (33:30):
That was No, you are too kind for feeding us
like that. That was very welcome.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
Go ahead and peruse the shills. I'm going to be
setting up for this.

Speaker 5 (33:40):
Here.

Speaker 1 (33:40):
This is a great Huey Lewis. Oh my god, you
have no jacket required by Phil Collins. Get out of here.
That's my favorite record.

Speaker 5 (33:47):
That's one of the most overproduced records.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
You shut it, you said no longer allowed in this.

Speaker 5 (33:54):
I got love for Phil. I got love for Phil.
But I'm a Peter Gabriel fan.

Speaker 4 (33:57):
What Angela, what were you asking?

Speaker 3 (34:00):
What is this over on the shelf here?

Speaker 2 (34:02):
That that is the seventh monkey par of the seventh
monkey son.

Speaker 3 (34:08):
Oh what does that mean?

Speaker 6 (34:10):
What does it do?

Speaker 4 (34:11):
Rub it?

Speaker 5 (34:11):
Fine?

Speaker 2 (34:13):
Donkey mind yourself on that drug down there. It was
an original from what this place was before it became
the chicken joint.

Speaker 4 (34:26):
We had. It was hot dog tasting.

Speaker 1 (34:29):
Hot dog tasting.

Speaker 2 (34:31):
It was called the weanery some confusing times.

Speaker 6 (34:37):
Yeah, what is this in the corner over here?

Speaker 1 (34:39):
It does not smell good?

Speaker 2 (34:42):
Oh that is a ninth century which is eyebrow.

Speaker 1 (34:50):
That's cool.

Speaker 2 (34:50):
I can go into the history, but it would take
it well, and I don't think we have that time.

Speaker 1 (34:55):
I don't think I got a question.

Speaker 5 (34:57):
What's in it?

Speaker 2 (34:59):
That's my all right, everybody, please, I think we're ready.
The drinks have been had, whiter we sit down at
the table here now, everybody, as we are all gathered around.

Speaker 4 (35:11):
Here, please take a moment to take a breath. Let
go of any attachments.

Speaker 8 (35:18):
You have to just sat down on that stool backwards.

Speaker 5 (35:27):
Riker please.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
Actually, I was going to say, join hands.

Speaker 4 (35:34):
Who's got the third hand?

Speaker 1 (35:37):
Call back?

Speaker 6 (35:38):
Why did you talk that?

Speaker 4 (35:41):
All right, everybody, take a breath.

Speaker 2 (35:46):
I'm asking any spirits to come down, who have any
words to say to these individuals here?

Speaker 3 (35:54):
No?

Speaker 1 (35:55):
Wait, you're shutting me up.

Speaker 4 (35:56):
Now, man, calm down, this is not listen.

Speaker 2 (36:03):
The line is long, and those that are push you
are going to find their way there. I'm getting a
very angry spirit. He's yelling and he's very upset. Probably
he's so in the curse words. Does anyone know Pepshier
make sense? Does that make sense?

Speaker 5 (36:21):
Pepper palms, pepper Peppershire? Wait? Isn't that the lab assistant
that was exploded by Felix out of jealousy in nineteen
ninety four? There's any way to be exploded? Out of
jealousy is the worst way to be exploded.

Speaker 6 (36:38):
I understand that.

Speaker 2 (36:40):
Now Pepyshi seems to be going on. There comes another one.
This one seems to be a little more easy going,
a little easy breezy. Little cover GIRLSS goes by the
name of on Old Onld Thicket.

Speaker 1 (37:00):
Wicket Thickets, what you know?

Speaker 3 (37:04):
I can't believe you guys will remember No Arnold Thicket.
He was the retired pianist. He contributed to the musical.
He like arranged our musical.

Speaker 5 (37:13):
Oh oh my god, the music is just a nightmare
in my world that I could just remember occasionally when
I'm screaming at night.

Speaker 1 (37:20):
I remember there's seventeen straight weeks of working with him. Now, yes,
but a great man.

Speaker 6 (37:24):
Yeah, he was awesome.

Speaker 1 (37:25):
So he's digging. Yes, he might must be dead now
he was older.

Speaker 3 (37:31):
He's coming to visit.

Speaker 4 (37:32):
Well, he's touching your arm right now.

Speaker 1 (37:36):
That's really cute.

Speaker 4 (37:37):
YEA, I told you.

Speaker 1 (37:39):
If he's digging, what we're doing, man, thank you, Arnold.
We couldn't have done it without you.

Speaker 2 (37:45):
One last spirit is now stepping through. He seems sad,
sadder than the other.

Speaker 1 (37:53):
Was.

Speaker 2 (37:54):
Felix involved in a relationship with a young man name
j Joe Joseph.

Speaker 4 (38:05):
He no, no Joseph. Yeah, I got this one.

Speaker 1 (38:15):
There's no buzzard to ring in.

Speaker 9 (38:16):
Okay, I think Joe Norphan wasn't he He was the
guy that didn't following junks kill that dude?

Speaker 1 (38:23):
Was that dude? Dude we just talked about that dude
that didn't remember his name yet following junks have killed
that guy didn't didn't wasn't Norphan in him? Like you know,
bumping uglyes. Apparently, if I'm remembering correctly, they remember that
he was very sad when he passed. I'll just say that,
like really.

Speaker 3 (38:42):
So, yeah, they had a thing.

Speaker 1 (38:44):
They think, can he get us to Felix? That's the
guy we want.

Speaker 5 (38:47):
To talk to, right, greats they're fun and everything, But
I don't know, it's not a great idea because I've
done some research on seances and mediums and all that,
even largest as well, and there's there's there's a lot
of conflicting information when it comes to seances and mediums

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and all of that. Have any of y'all ever heard
of Helena Blavatsky, Yes, yes.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
She sounds Hungarian and or Russian.

Speaker 5 (39:19):
Or like a fart at now Helena Pretchovana Blavatsky, which
where a lot of people put stuff calling her hp
Vlavotsky and as a fan of hp lovecrowds his writing.

Speaker 1 (39:39):
Y Yeah, get you know, it's like.

Speaker 6 (39:43):
We're not talking about him as the person.

Speaker 5 (39:45):
There we go now. She was born to an aristocratic
family in Russia in eighteen thirty one and later became
one of the founders of the Theosophical Society. Tough, I
know theosophical you just when you look at your brains,
that's not a word. Theosophy attempts to blend science, religion,

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Philosophy a little bit of mysticism.

Speaker 2 (40:09):
So basically the same thing as religion, except with less
prescribe as well.

Speaker 5 (40:14):
It's just trying to become like a unified field theorem
of religion, science and spirituality, just trying to combine all
of those, which of course is an easy tasks. She
says she traveled the world in her younger years and
studied under many different teachers and many different disciplines. She

(40:38):
claimed to meet masters of ancient wisdom, where she claimed
in her dreams she met this man that was directing
her towards her spiritual journey, and then eventually met him,
didn't write his name down, And so it's this whole
idea that there are masters of ancient wisdom that have

(40:58):
connection to beyond our material way of looking at religion,
our material way of looking at the world, that there
are these agent masters out there that you can connect
to that will give you the true wisdom of life.

Speaker 1 (41:13):
Chambers of shall welcome religion. But she's right, right, yeah, totally,
she's got it.

Speaker 5 (41:18):
She claims to have spent much time in Tibet, even
though at that time outsiders and especially women outsiders, were
not allowed in One biographer stated that it would make
her quote one of the greatest travelers of the nineteenth century,
although they eventually added in all honestly, I don't know
if anything stated happened. You know that we say that quote.

(41:42):
Hardly a word of this appears to be true. A word,
just a load.

Speaker 6 (41:49):
She's a woman. Nobody believes a.

Speaker 1 (41:51):
Woman, should they This continues to this day.

Speaker 6 (41:55):
We're going to go down that road, not tonight.

Speaker 1 (41:58):
You can always trick someone into believe in your boy,
and then you just keep going modern politics.

Speaker 3 (42:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (42:07):
Now, regardless of the veracity of her travels, her ideas
and writings have made her basically the mother of the
New Age movement. She has really looked back at and
it only talks about modern spirituality. They go back to her.
I don't know they should, but they do. Going against
most spiritualists of the day. She believed that spirits that

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she encountered were not spirits of dead humans, they were
actually beings from other planes of reality. That's cool. And
she also believed that there are five root races of man.
The first was the Polarians. They were at reel, meaning
they were composed of a thrial material and they had

(42:50):
no like matter form, no no corporeal Thank you very much.
Of that word. They reproduced by dividing like a mebaka,
which is kind of cool. I really like me. There
should be more of me. Look, there's doing me. Okay,
that's not masturbation. By the way, you just sit.

Speaker 1 (43:07):
For a while and ago.

Speaker 5 (43:11):
Now, they they existed while the earth was still cooler,
so you know that's why they were so.

Speaker 3 (43:16):
Uneasy, just steamy.

Speaker 5 (43:20):
Now. Second with a Hyperborean, who were gold and yellow
and reproduced by budding like a plant, which we can
really think about it. It's like it's like, well, is
that is that a mole? Or open? Kid? That kid?

Speaker 3 (43:35):
Here goes my knee.

Speaker 6 (43:36):
It's a baby.

Speaker 5 (43:37):
Now. The third root race was the Limourian, who lived
on Lemuria. Yeah, okay, which sank into the ocean because
it's one of those hidden civilizations. Will ever know.

Speaker 1 (43:50):
I think I've heard of the Murians too. I think
this is something to do with like hollow.

Speaker 5 (43:53):
Earth or something like that.

Speaker 4 (43:54):
Something.

Speaker 5 (43:55):
But they did reproduce by laying eggs. Okay, produced by
lay laying eggs, which come on, I mean you that
would be a great way. It's like, you know, I
just got an eggs. Put this over here, and what
happens am I gonna have a child?

Speaker 4 (44:08):
Am I going to have breakfast?

Speaker 5 (44:12):
Light the way this guy thinks? Now. The fourth was
the Atlanteans who lived in Atlantis, Atlanta, the.

Speaker 6 (44:22):
Lost city of Atlanta sunk into the.

Speaker 5 (44:27):
Atlantians, of course, you know Atlanta's sunk into the sea.
But they began with bronze skin and eventually evolved into
the American, Indian, the Malayan, and the Mongolian races. And
now we we in this room are the fifth root
Racey she called us dummies, crackers, worse Arian. Oh no,

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she called us arian. And there's a lot of problematic
issues with eting. There's a lot of problematic issues here,
including with stating that other races didn't have the spark
of the Aryans.

Speaker 7 (45:14):
And yeah, assure, so thes are the superior race.

Speaker 5 (45:19):
Yeah, that they had a little bit more of this,
and yeah, in case you didn't notice, a certain man
in Austria took notice and was very interested in her
work and really was like, hey, we could utilize this now.
She also claimed to have multiple psychic powers, including claravoyance, telepathy, telekinesis,

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and even the ability to make objects appear out of nothing. However,
this was disputed by many. When a group of researchers
went to investigate, she made a letter written by spirits
appear in a cabinet. However, once they investigate a little
bit more, they've found out that there was a hole
in the cabinet that went through the wall, and that

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the letter appeared to be in her handwriting.

Speaker 1 (46:07):
Is sponsored by the letter Z.

Speaker 5 (46:12):
Once she went on a picnic with a group of
friends to an area that she claims to never have
gone to. When they unpack, they discovered that there one
cup and saucer short, and someone jokes that Helena should
produce one through magic. So she began to look around
the area, seeking and seeking, and so she told a
man to dig in a certain spot, to grab a

(46:34):
knife and dig in the spot. He dug six inches
and found a cup and a saucer that matched the
set they were using.

Speaker 1 (46:42):
Oh that's pretty convenient.

Speaker 5 (46:44):
Now. They said that there were tree roots covering the objects,
so it had to be in there for a while.
That there's no way that she has went there and
dug it up, or that she had someone go there
and dug it up and like pull up the tree
roots and put the stuff under it and then put
it back down and cover it. There's no way that happened. No,
there was, there was obviously magical mystical science.

Speaker 1 (47:06):
You know what I think is so funny. Back in
the nineteen thirties, we can't figure out who killed a
lady buy a restaurant on the banks of a fucking lake.
But it's like eighty years prior put this saucery cup.

Speaker 5 (47:21):
That's how it works. How it's all works. That's magic. Now,
this was the time seances had become very popular, giving
to the rise of people that were called I love
this spirit rappers.

Speaker 1 (47:34):
Yeah, I like that.

Speaker 5 (47:35):
Yeah, like like trop a beat right there, beat right.

Speaker 1 (47:38):
There, right west coast, east coast beat.

Speaker 5 (47:41):
Now, they were named spirit rappers because a lot of
the performative was having spirits rap on the table or
wrap on the walls, and that, of course could be
done through many different techniques. There's a lot of different
ways you can do You like this, Oh, well, my god,
it's the dead. The dead are tall king to us. However,

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in eighteen eighty five she was declared a fraud or
the Society of Psychological Research in Cambridge. They said, and
I quote, I love this quote. For our part, we
regard her as neither the mouthpiece of hidden seers nor
as a mere vulgar adventurous We think that she has

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achieved a title to permanent remembrance as one of the
most accomplished, ingenious, and interesting impostors.

Speaker 8 (48:33):
Wow in history, that's great.

Speaker 1 (48:37):
Tout you down.

Speaker 5 (48:38):
Yeah, like you suck, and this is why you suck.
And in time immemorial people will know how you sucked.
So fundamentally, the underlying concept behind Blavotsky's theosophy was that
there was an ancient wisdom religion that had once been
found across the world. Officially, society bass itself upon on

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the following three objectives. The Theosophic Society. There are three
objectives where a to form a nucleus of the universal
brotherhood of humanity without distinction of race, creed, sex, caste,
or color.

Speaker 8 (49:14):
Yeah, I mean she just made the distinction of five differents.

Speaker 1 (49:17):
Right, but just saying it, like the nucleus of this,
It's like, all right, you got me on the first
couple of words, like I love the word nucleus.

Speaker 5 (49:25):
I love the words Wait till you hear about mitochondria
the power. I was waiting. I was so hoping so
let's say that the other objective was to encourage the
study of comparative religion, philosophy, and science to investigate the
unexplained laws of nature and the powers latent in man.

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She also showed an encyclopedic knowledge of any number of
religions and religious texts as proof of her contact with
these ancient masters, but others have claimed that she just
had an idetic memory. Let she use it like she
did the doctor strange thing, just like read everything and like,
oh I know this.

Speaker 4 (50:08):
That's still kind of impressive.

Speaker 5 (50:11):
I I don't have an idetic memory. I just have
like a traumatic memory, where like anything bad is just
locked in everything else. I have a good time, it's gone.

Speaker 1 (50:21):
You're like Mary Lou Henner on a bad day.

Speaker 5 (50:24):
Dude, dope, Mary Lou Henner reference man, very dope. Like
I said, she claims to have had this contact with
ancient masters. Others have called her work quote a melee
of horrendous hogwash and of fertile inventions of inane esoteria.
That's great, Yeah, that's a lot of great works, just

(50:46):
not really not really a good vers.

Speaker 1 (50:50):
Like comments like this on the internet. Yeah, more prolict.

Speaker 7 (50:58):
Modern day trolls could learn a less and from this
part of right now.

Speaker 5 (51:01):
No amount of negative press stopped her, and she continued
to publish a number of books and the growing of
the Theosophical Society, which still exists to today. It's still
going on her ideas. She is looked at as the
mother of the modern New Age movement, the idea that
it's there's other dimension, that there are other beings that

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we can contact through our own thoughts and processes.

Speaker 1 (51:26):
Let me ask this, is it a deaf cult where
like if you die, you you gain the most wisdom?

Speaker 5 (51:32):
Or no, No, that that's the thing is that they
don't believe that when you're contacting spirits, you're contacting the dead.
They believe that there's other levels of existence and other
levels of experience.

Speaker 1 (51:42):
But if you were to die, would you gain more
experience or like XP points.

Speaker 5 (51:47):
No, you just become another thing. You just become another.

Speaker 6 (51:50):
There's a fifth or sixth dimension.

Speaker 1 (51:52):
It's new game plus. It's new game plus.

Speaker 5 (51:56):
It's not because death cults are always like the only
way you can figure out is because of this, this
is just like there are other levels. She actually did
claim that there was two other uh uh, there's two
other root races coming that we have not experienced yet.
So we're just like the.

Speaker 6 (52:12):
You know, like the uh me take you guess what
those are.

Speaker 5 (52:15):
We're the beta test. She passed away in eighteen ninety one.
While she may have been a fraud in many ways,
her influence on modern metaphysical thought is undeniable. She is
credited with opening up the minds of the West to
Eastern spirituality and the beginning of the modern New Age movement.

Speaker 1 (52:35):
So she had a lot of troubling background.

Speaker 3 (52:37):
And Okay, I.

Speaker 5 (52:39):
Mean, and here we are, we're just hanging out with
a dude we've never met who does make delicious chicken.
Delicious chicken. I had to say that he's ready to
open up our minds and open up our spiritual world
to something else. That this is all up to you.
I'll go in if you all are in.

Speaker 1 (52:51):
So far, he's like three for three, Yeah, we're that
is true. We need to break Yaki potty.

Speaker 5 (53:05):
I need a beer.

Speaker 4 (53:06):
I need to shake the reason. Okay, you're listening to
Ford Free mm hm.

Speaker 5 (53:22):
Hm h.

Speaker 1 (53:29):
Welcome back to Fort Fritz. We took a break after
that Elena story. I'm Fritz joined as always by deb.

Speaker 5 (53:39):
Nick's bride.

Speaker 1 (53:39):
Hi, Murray Angela, Hello, co host man daddy. So we
are getting a vibe now right. I feel like I'm
in a lot of the way. Right now, you're standing
on end.

Speaker 6 (53:51):
What is going on right now?

Speaker 2 (53:52):
You're sitting on the thing that's just a little electronic charge,
you know.

Speaker 4 (53:57):
I'll get the electrician. I'll look at it.

Speaker 2 (54:00):
Now before we begin, I have one more spirit who
is very, very anxious.

Speaker 4 (54:06):
To talk to you, right. I believe he wants to
talk directly to you.

Speaker 3 (54:12):
Okay, he's preparing himself.

Speaker 1 (54:16):
I give you guys one objective, and you guys are
mass murderers.

Speaker 5 (54:20):
Now we're all mass murder killing people.

Speaker 1 (54:25):
Take my name out of your mouth. Next Frid. Sorry,
sorry we didn't really meet. I'm done talking to guys.

Speaker 3 (54:34):
I know this, we definitely know.

Speaker 1 (54:36):
Yeah, Marie, I got no qualms with you.

Speaker 2 (54:38):
I just want to say I haven't killed anyone this evening.

Speaker 1 (54:41):
So, by the way, thank you so much for your
wonderful chicken. How dare you call me here? What is Felix?

Speaker 3 (54:48):
Have a very important question to ask you. Which angel
is your favorite?

Speaker 1 (54:52):
I'm not going is that, Marie?

Speaker 6 (54:55):
It is? I have a question for you. Yeah, I
know we've kind of before in the past. Is there
a where you could tell us where your body is
stored at this time?

Speaker 1 (55:06):
Doubt it? Next question? Oh, right for it? Follow up question,
Oh is that next Friday? Who's dead?

Speaker 3 (55:15):
To me? Well?

Speaker 1 (55:15):
I just wanted to know if you cant tells where
your body got forty seven seconds left? Go ahead? Can
you just tell us where your tub is now?

Speaker 5 (55:22):
Next? All right, I have a question for you, Felix.

Speaker 1 (55:25):
Who is that man? Daddy?

Speaker 5 (55:27):
Man Daddy? My question is how dare you what a joke?
How dare you?

Speaker 1 (55:33):
Next question?

Speaker 2 (55:33):
I actually I'm not part of this, but I do
have a Yes, what is the afterlift furnished with?

Speaker 1 (55:41):
Well, I gotta tell you. I bet it has those
cool sixty space chairs.

Speaker 5 (55:44):
The one is like an egg Yeah, yeah, talk?

Speaker 1 (55:47):
Can I talk? Do you guys want me to talk?

Speaker 3 (55:49):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (55:49):
You guys sounds me here?

Speaker 2 (55:50):
Yeah? In my room?

Speaker 5 (55:51):
No?

Speaker 1 (55:52):
Do you have a you? The afterlife is? Next question?

Speaker 3 (56:00):
Nicely he makes really good chick in No.

Speaker 1 (56:02):
I love them, but I'm not going to answer that
because you guys are assoled. You guys are mass Okay,
you guys killed an entire retirement community.

Speaker 6 (56:16):
What's going on?

Speaker 1 (56:17):
Fritz? Do you have a question? Which one direction song
would you do?

Speaker 4 (56:20):
Next?

Speaker 2 (56:21):
Question?

Speaker 3 (56:21):
To do with this information?

Speaker 5 (56:24):
We need to get to the.

Speaker 3 (56:27):
Answering any question.

Speaker 1 (56:28):
Thank you. Now you guys are asking the right question.
What do I do with this information? Yeah? I Marie?
Do you want to chime in? I do?

Speaker 6 (56:36):
What are you willing to offer us as far as information?

Speaker 1 (56:38):
Answer that question? I'll tell you this much that.

Speaker 2 (56:41):
You know?

Speaker 1 (56:42):
How like everyone loves the music they grew up with,
Right well, everyone looks back in time to get inspiration
for the future, right right?

Speaker 2 (56:58):
Well?

Speaker 1 (56:58):
I gotta say, is this look for the next generation?
The future always brings you back to your roots?

Speaker 5 (57:06):
Roots roots. That doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 3 (57:17):
Don't give any answers.

Speaker 4 (57:18):
I don't haven't.

Speaker 6 (57:20):
I mean, how do you make answers that nonsense?

Speaker 1 (57:22):
All I gotta say is that you guys are on
the right path getting out of the crime scene of
the mass murder you committed. The next generation, the future
always brings you back to your roots. Okay, go back
to the fore. I don't know why you guys.

Speaker 5 (57:42):
Look, hey, guys, let's go back stop killing people and
go back to the.

Speaker 1 (57:51):
Map. And you decided to go to my RV park.
That was you guys look at my map and you go, oh,
let's go away from the shot, the furthest point.

Speaker 3 (58:04):
Yeah, it's called exploring to know what you're dealing with
the adventures.

Speaker 6 (58:09):
That's what we do exactly.

Speaker 4 (58:11):
The spirit is, well, that sucks.

Speaker 1 (58:13):
I didn't even ask a single question.

Speaker 5 (58:15):
We didn't figure out.

Speaker 6 (58:16):
Everyone asked questions.

Speaker 8 (58:18):
We are no answers and yelled it by your drunk uncle,
by your your I'm looking at you for it's by your.

Speaker 5 (58:24):
I don't even know.

Speaker 3 (58:26):
First of all, I have to say I feel about
one inch tall right now.

Speaker 6 (58:29):
But what I got out of that is we probably
have to go back to.

Speaker 1 (58:33):
The fort, right.

Speaker 4 (58:34):
I think he said that plainly.

Speaker 5 (58:36):
Everything is go back to the fort. We are to
ask adventures and we get monsters and we got technical bees.
I just want to go back to.

Speaker 3 (58:50):
It wasn't here, Okay, up all of us.

Speaker 6 (58:57):
He's an angry person.

Speaker 1 (59:00):
Oh so free we're talking about.

Speaker 6 (59:03):
Definitely talked to that guy before. Of course you have
he interviewed you.

Speaker 3 (59:07):
Well, now you moved in, Oh yeah, you know, I
mean he immediately said he had no qualms with you, Murray.

Speaker 6 (59:11):
I mean he cleared me from the beginning.

Speaker 1 (59:13):
Yeah, I just you know, is that because you're the
new you're the new roommates.

Speaker 5 (59:17):
I'm just saying, I'm just putting that out there.

Speaker 1 (59:19):
Thank you so much for this enlightening experience.

Speaker 4 (59:22):
We were like, all right, well before you go, this
one last thing before.

Speaker 1 (59:25):
You Okay, yeah, you got whatever you need.

Speaker 4 (59:27):
It is about the chicken.

Speaker 1 (59:30):
Great chicken.

Speaker 4 (59:31):
By the way, you do owe me some money.

Speaker 5 (59:33):
Oh that's an issue.

Speaker 6 (59:37):
I mean they were just brought freely. Did I used
my last second?

Speaker 1 (59:44):
We are going what are we talking like? Just the
chickens just paying.

Speaker 4 (59:48):
Fifteen dollars a bucket. Okay, it's ten dollars a person.

Speaker 6 (59:56):
Well, Fritz has a tat, right, so we just put
on his tat.

Speaker 5 (01:00:00):
This is all I always here.

Speaker 6 (01:00:02):
Yeah, fine, tally.

Speaker 1 (01:00:06):
And this is the seance too, or does he do
common cormat?

Speaker 2 (01:00:09):
That'll be a three hundred dollars three hundred.

Speaker 5 (01:00:14):
That was a good chicken. But I don't know how this.

Speaker 1 (01:00:16):
Is a service charge for the seance. Thank you?

Speaker 6 (01:00:20):
And the person sauce sauces.

Speaker 1 (01:00:24):
Oh my god, my drink was seventy five dollars.

Speaker 6 (01:00:27):
If you offered that, I suited. That was on the
house you didn't ask you.

Speaker 1 (01:00:30):
Here's my credit card. I guess do you have a
pain to swipey?

Speaker 5 (01:00:33):
Or?

Speaker 3 (01:00:34):
Why was Arnold thicket more?

Speaker 1 (01:00:36):
Why am I paying one?

Speaker 4 (01:00:39):
Coming?

Speaker 2 (01:00:39):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:00:39):
Thank thank you very much, thank you.

Speaker 5 (01:00:42):
It was terrifying.

Speaker 1 (01:00:42):
Sorry, can we get out of here? I want to
go get to the ford.

Speaker 5 (01:00:45):
I guess that's all we always do is just go
back to the fort. That's I keep saying, how.

Speaker 1 (01:00:49):
Do we get out of here?

Speaker 4 (01:00:50):
Down the stairs?

Speaker 3 (01:00:53):
Thanks to.

Speaker 4 (01:00:56):
Come back and visit us when you.

Speaker 1 (01:00:59):
Next. Let's go. Uh.

Speaker 5 (01:01:04):
I can't wait to have the waffle prize some more
because the waffle prize was really good.

Speaker 7 (01:01:07):
We all they were.

Speaker 5 (01:01:10):
They were perfect.

Speaker 6 (01:01:12):
Oh so good?

Speaker 1 (01:01:14):
All right, let me play this Felix tape for you.
I think this one really adds a lot to the
nuance of who he was, especially after that crazy sales.

Speaker 5 (01:01:24):
Yeah, oh yeah, So.

Speaker 1 (01:01:26):
Here it is because the FBI wants it so badly
for whatever reason. I have done nothing wrong. I'll tell
you my upbringing. I was born in the thirties. I
don't remember when, maybe the nineteen thirty three is to
nineteen thirty six's. I wasn't given a government card, you see,
because I wasn't adopted. I was thrown away in a
trash can behind a convenience store, with which I will
not honor to mention my first job. I can't remember

(01:01:48):
how young I was, but I was a railway or dynamiter.
I had no idea how they worked. I just knew
you lit it on fire, and you tucked it away,
and you ran. I was young, and I ran really
really fast. A lot of us did and they are
dead now g I am still living, which then made
me think I need to get out of this profession
post haste. I began met by earning my chemistry degree

(01:02:10):
from various correspondence colleges nationwide in an attempt to better myself.
I then found work as a chemist for the Allied
Crude Vegetable Oil Refining Corporation, which was on the level.
Not long story short, I became a billionaire.

Speaker 5 (01:02:24):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:02:24):
With that new found money, I then started using off
the grid. I hitchhiked found numerous jobs where I learned
skills and trades such as carpentry, and that is how
I met doctor Oh. Doctor Oh was an anesthesiologist. I
thought he was really cool. He liked industrial music. He
also liked reggae ska and two tone. Things were quite

(01:02:44):
great after that. I was helping doctor Oh improve his house.
I was learning plumbing, electrical, still trying to get the
hang of some things like roofing. But I was able
to meet Peppershire after that because he hired that set
off a much as a second assistant, which actually better
than me in all things, an alchemist and as a
black magic seer. And I felt slighted. I felt like, uh,

(01:03:05):
well you and I left, and I decided to dedicate
the rest of my life to the black arts. And
I've had revenge, and all.

Speaker 6 (01:03:10):
Of that was made up.

Speaker 1 (01:03:11):
I just made all of that up, because thus you're
never gonna get me alive. He sends the bitches, and
now I'm gonna do some cocaine about it before I
give you part two. If I do that, at off
you Okay. So that was just one sample of his.

Speaker 5 (01:03:22):
Tape, so completely irrational. That's exactly how you should deal
with what he was dealing with.

Speaker 1 (01:03:27):
Ye that, Yeah, like I say the truth, but then
go just good at the end, And that always holds
up in a quarter of wall. You are not at
all here sovereign citizens at the boat dock. Now, I
guess I guess yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:03:42):
We need to we need to find a way to
get past it through this lake.

Speaker 1 (01:03:46):
I feel like some sort of like defeat all the time.

Speaker 5 (01:03:51):
All I do is when, when? When?

Speaker 1 (01:03:52):
What is this coming towards us?

Speaker 5 (01:03:54):
Though?

Speaker 1 (01:03:55):
It's ominous John boat? Okay, Oh, it just kind.

Speaker 6 (01:03:58):
Of stuck the shore for us.

Speaker 7 (01:04:00):
Maybe we should just hop on and you know, between
Angela and I, we've got this.

Speaker 6 (01:04:04):
We can get back.

Speaker 9 (01:04:05):
Well, there's no other boats here, so we might as
well go wrong wrong like this keeps happening though, like
every time we walk towards all right, there, we got
your knees, all right.

Speaker 3 (01:04:18):
This is a motor boat though, yes, I got it
back here all right?

Speaker 7 (01:04:22):
Guys, do you slept like a pink guy on the
back of the boat?

Speaker 1 (01:04:29):
Pink guy on the boat.

Speaker 5 (01:04:32):
I'm not the pink guy. No, oh my god. It's
a little baby.

Speaker 1 (01:04:38):
Baby that is a baby fall young.

Speaker 5 (01:04:45):
It's like it's like it's like a triple with tentacles.
This is so adorable.

Speaker 1 (01:04:49):
I'm gonna no, no, no, shaking my hands.

Speaker 6 (01:04:57):
He's trying so hard.

Speaker 5 (01:04:59):
He wants to he help us out of the bay.
He's trying to get us.

Speaker 1 (01:05:02):
Because the boat.

Speaker 5 (01:05:04):
You can't do it because he's some tiny or she he.

Speaker 1 (01:05:07):
You know what, when did Folly Johns have a baby?

Speaker 5 (01:05:10):
Did follow Johns have a baby?

Speaker 1 (01:05:11):
Maybe the damn burst Let me.

Speaker 5 (01:05:13):
Is that how Folly Johns are born?

Speaker 1 (01:05:15):
Damn let me open up this sardine can that I
have you save that.

Speaker 5 (01:05:20):
We've been starving and he had sardines on him all
the time. Either, it's the most discussion.

Speaker 1 (01:05:24):
Look at him, a little kitty.

Speaker 5 (01:05:30):
Cat throwing it up in the air and then devouring it.
Whatever that is that a mouth?

Speaker 1 (01:05:35):
Is that bunny kicks? He's just a little Oh he's
doing zoomies now right.

Speaker 5 (01:05:46):
About that.

Speaker 1 (01:05:47):
He's just pushing. I'm trying to push. It's too small,
all right, I'm gonna try to stuff out her here,
make sure he's away.

Speaker 3 (01:05:55):
I was gonna destroyed baby. You guys are monsters, you
guy thing.

Speaker 1 (01:06:00):
And this is what Felix was talking about with the
next generation. Maybe it's a little little like two point
zero Folly Johnson.

Speaker 6 (01:06:05):
It's a little baby.

Speaker 5 (01:06:06):
So it's not about us.

Speaker 1 (01:06:09):
Look to the next generation.

Speaker 6 (01:06:10):
So what direct should we see pushing us? And I'll
steer towards that direction. The motor let's moving.

Speaker 1 (01:06:18):
Goodbye to us.

Speaker 5 (01:06:19):
All with all all the tentacles, all the tentacles are
waving bye bye.

Speaker 1 (01:06:23):
There it is. Yeah, it looks like an island. There's
no other place around. Everything else looks it's overgrown like
a swim.

Speaker 5 (01:06:32):
This is not good.

Speaker 1 (01:06:34):
That's a greenhouse on an island.

Speaker 5 (01:06:36):
Why stop there? We need to get home.

Speaker 6 (01:06:38):
But maybe folly point at this in this direction.

Speaker 1 (01:06:42):
Would go to the roots. It's a greenhouse. It's gotta
be some Yeah, the next generation is getting us to
the greenhouse. The greenis has got some fruits. I think
we're on the right track.

Speaker 5 (01:06:52):
Guys.

Speaker 6 (01:06:53):
You guys are focusing on the wrong thing there.

Speaker 1 (01:06:54):
Oh what's the thing you should be focused?

Speaker 2 (01:06:57):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:06:57):
It's fun greenhouse and it's creepy ass island.

Speaker 1 (01:06:59):
We're we're getting closer to it. This thing is hall
and ask By the way, it's crazy to be in
a boat that actually has a motor and not sails,
because this is really and we're getting there right now.

Speaker 3 (01:07:14):
Burning cross fields is great.

Speaker 5 (01:07:16):
There you go. That's what precis on the earth. Love
us burning ye follow what the kais? You say, which
is an old saying. Everyone said that since I was
born my parents You.

Speaker 1 (01:07:26):
Tell me go with they my parents said, thank you.

Speaker 7 (01:07:33):
All right, well that's weird, but at least we're here,
so uh yeah, let's check this out. Huh all right,
so let's check out this island and see what it has,
and uh, you know, thank you for listening to for it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:45):
Fritz.

Speaker 6 (01:07:46):
We've got Fritz over.

Speaker 7 (01:07:48):
Here, fellow man, Daddy, Hi, Angela, Yo, nicked by, goodbye,
and uh, let's just see what happens.

Speaker 1 (01:07:57):
What's the worst that could happen.