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November 1, 2025 74 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Well, good morning, when and all we are back. The
boys are back in town. The boys are actually back
in Tiger's backyard here in San Diego, California. I'm Brian Maine,
Tiger Cala Fox with the headphones on, monitoring the audio,
making sure we sound good. As far as looking good,
we can't do anything about that, John, but we'll give
it a shot and see what we can do from there. Yeah,

(00:22):
there you go.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
I need one of these in front of me, right.
Do you know what you said? You can't do anything
about looking good, But I want our listeners to know
this is no makeup. No, that's hard to believe, isn't it.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
And you thought the green room meant putting green makeup
on the first time we had to explain to John, No,
that's not.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
What that's because the Grinch was in there before me.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
That's true. That's true. We hope you had a good week.
How's the weekend so far?

Speaker 3 (00:47):
Huh?

Speaker 2 (00:48):
Last weekend was really good?

Speaker 3 (00:49):
Huh?

Speaker 1 (00:50):
Well, which day Saturday or Sunday or both both.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
We didn't do a show, a Garden America radio show
with the three of us, but Tiger and I did
a little bit from the Rose Auction up in ocean side, right.

Speaker 4 (01:03):
Yeah, it was so neat being up there, kind of
seeing all the roses, seeing the entrance for the rose show. Yeah,
talking with the people that were in attendance there. It
was a lot of fun.

Speaker 3 (01:12):
And you said it was one of the best auctions.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
Ever, one of the best we ever had, right in
terms of what, how do you gauge that dollars?

Speaker 1 (01:20):
That was good, say you were going to go there,
but the people.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
But yeah, that that's a judge of I mean, the
main thing for us really is getting these roses back
into gardens. You know roses. There were two roses sold
there that there were only two of in the whole country.

Speaker 3 (01:38):
That's impressive.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
Which one Which ones were? Were those?

Speaker 2 (01:40):
They knew you were going to ask me that because
I want to see if I can recollect. Well, when
we auctioned them on, No, they weren't in the live
silent auction. Well wait a second one was Vertigo and
the other was Irish Morn, which was in the silent auction.
So vertigo, if it does it happen aroma, yes, extremely
pray so you would get vertigo from smelling this rose,

(02:03):
you could because it's so fragrant. It knocks you on
your keister. How's keister? Can we use keister? Jimmy Stuart,
Jimmy Stewart, wasn't he? And Vertigo?

Speaker 1 (02:16):
Alfred Hitchcock? Yeah, yes, yeah, okay boy, Stream of Consciousness, John. Hey,
those just joining us on Facebook Live, those on biz
Talk Radio, welcome to the show. It's going to be
a fantastic show today. The first five minutes the most important,
because that's where a lot of the information comes comes
to you from us via the microphones. Here from Tiger's backyard.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
Yeah, our good friend Rochelle said that we're sounding good,
but we're always looking good.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
Hey, that's pretty good. Yeah, Dana says, all good as well.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
Can you believe this is November already?

Speaker 4 (02:51):
Oh my gosh, Lisa wrote, the holiday countdown begins.

Speaker 1 (02:56):
Oh that started back in August. If you shop, if
you go to the various doors, yeah, I'm seeing Valentine's
Day already.

Speaker 3 (03:03):
Yep. No, they definitely don't skip over Christmas.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
I'm seeing Christmas Christmas slashed prices on sale, Clarence clearing out.

Speaker 3 (03:13):
It's amazing.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
It is amazing because you know, whatever somebody says back
in the day, that's your day. People listening and watching
would say, well, what day are you talking about, because
back in my day might have been the sixties, back
in your day could have been the eighties or nineties,
but it used to be nothing pertaining to Christmas till
after Thanksgiving.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
Yeah, they kind of like, you know, wait, then you
get started. And that's why Black.

Speaker 4 (03:34):
Friday, that you know, Hall the sales day was such
the thing. It was like, okay, now we can all go.
It's kind of like the Mother's Day of back East gardening, which.

Speaker 1 (03:42):
Was the day after Thanksgiving.

Speaker 4 (03:43):
You you don't start any day until Mother's Day and
then it was like off to the races, you know,
as far as gardening and what you want to do.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
I have never ever gone anywhere to shop on that Friday.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
No, no, why why that's like drinking on New Year's Eve.
It's ramateurs exactly. Hey, So, John, I enjoyed your article
about broccoli and cauliflower.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
Well, you know, I was just gonna mention that last
week in Fallbrook anyway, we had two days over ninety degrees.
One was ninety six, and you know, it's just way
too hot for fall vegetables. But I'm thinking, you know,
on the way down here today. I drove through all
kinds of fog. It's cool in Tiger's yard this morning.

(04:25):
So so I want Tiger to tell me now is
the time to put in broccoli and cauliflower plants, because
I think I'm going to do it.

Speaker 1 (04:33):
Yeah, well you said, you said August, and it's a
little late now, but you could do something in January
February a little late.

Speaker 3 (04:41):
What are you talking about. I'm not sure what you mean.

Speaker 1 (04:44):
Okay, you talked about fall planting, yes, okay, and you
talked about when you could get.

Speaker 2 (04:49):
Started, right if you're if you're where we are right
now in San Dieg Coastal, Yeah, you could have gotten
started the end of Yeah, okay.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
Okay, that's what I'm saying. When is it too late?
Because now it's November.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
When is it too late?

Speaker 1 (05:07):
Because then you had an adendum about something about.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
You could do that all the ways through the first
of the year without any problem.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
Right, January February.

Speaker 4 (05:15):
Is gonna say February maybe, you know, would be the
latest because you know you're worried about March April May
getting a wave that you don't have the time frame
to throw out some of that stuff. But you know, like, yeah,
I mean, we have a very long time frame. And
it's because that's the thing that regions have. They have

(05:38):
really hard start and stops, meaning it gets hot or
it gets cold.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
Because you can depend on that, right, can't You can't depend.

Speaker 4 (05:46):
On it's the ranges ten degrees. You know, it's either
seventy or eighty.

Speaker 1 (05:52):
It's so at the beginning of last week, when I
was looking at the weather forecast and saw some spikes,
I think two days ago we had the heat advisory
in Script's ranch, I got upset.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
But let's what I was talking about. That's when I
was ninety six, And.

Speaker 1 (06:08):
Come on, what's the kind of stand There's no one
to complain to.

Speaker 3 (06:11):
Yeah, there is, just complain.

Speaker 1 (06:13):
Just complain. So let's and speaking of the newsletter, one
of the best quotes. Yeah, speaking of complaining.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
Don't complain about the newsletter till you've written one yourself.

Speaker 3 (06:26):
You forgot daylight savings time challenge.

Speaker 1 (06:29):
Yeah, that's right, we turn the clocks back tonight.

Speaker 3 (06:31):
This is the second time you've forgotten.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
That, oh in the newsletter? Yeah, yeah, I did forget.

Speaker 3 (06:37):
I think people expect to set their clocks back. John.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
You know, I'm getting to the age where it seems
like my clock is just set back on a permanent basis. Yeah.
So anyway, the quote of the week, Brian, it is
from Doug Larson, and he said life expectancy would grow
by leaps and bounds if green vegetables smelled as good
as bacon.

Speaker 4 (07:02):
Oh wow, Yeah, you know what it is good though,
Brussels routs and bacon.

Speaker 1 (07:08):
You know what I will I will say this.

Speaker 3 (07:10):
Brussels sprouts and bacon.

Speaker 1 (07:12):
What about asparagus wrapped in bacon?

Speaker 3 (07:14):
So I'm what.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
About bacon ice cream? You know what, I've had bacon
ice cream and it's delicious. It sounds it doesn't sound good,
doesn't Let's let's get.

Speaker 4 (07:26):
Back to your bacons garlic ice cream.

Speaker 2 (07:29):
I never had that.

Speaker 4 (07:31):
But uh, I don't I like bacon in things like
bits crispy. Right, it's got to be perfectly done for
the wrap stuff, you know, like the wrapped uh scallops
or the wrapped hot dog.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
I don't like fatty bacon.

Speaker 3 (07:46):
Well, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (07:47):
Usually when you wrap it, it's hard to get it
to be that crisp.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
Yeah, it's gotta be. It's got to be thoroughly cooked,
but not so crisp. That a crack.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
You want a little softness, a hint of softness, thoroughly cooked.

Speaker 3 (07:59):
Trial little tenderness.

Speaker 1 (08:02):
That's a song done by many people.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
I thought that was Three Dog Knights.

Speaker 1 (08:08):
Three Dog Knight did it? Yeah, other people they had
the hit, the one you'd be familiar. Other people have
done it.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
Saw them at the Wild Animal Park back in the day,
like when.

Speaker 1 (08:17):
You say back in the day, like when they were
still relevant.

Speaker 4 (08:19):
No, if they were still relevant, I don't think they
would have been at the Wild Animal Park, but it
was right after they were relevant.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
Do you remember they used to have concerts at the
wild An Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 3 (08:29):
The Wild Animal Park out there, and yeah, you know
what it was.

Speaker 1 (08:32):
It was on a stage called the has been Stage.

Speaker 3 (08:36):
Listening.

Speaker 1 (08:37):
I saw the Chuck Nigrin.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
The Beach Boys there and a couple other people.

Speaker 1 (08:43):
How much you've got a couple of minutes.

Speaker 3 (08:45):
That was a perfect lay article.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
Tiger Paula says, to up your volume, Tiger, Yeah, usually
Tiger's loud.

Speaker 3 (08:53):
YEA, maybe I'm just moving the microve phone around.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
Oh that could be all right, Well, let us know, Yeah,
we appreciate the audio feedback, not feedback like not literal,
not literal, but feedback from you.

Speaker 3 (09:07):
But but get back.

Speaker 4 (09:08):
When we get back from the break, maybe we'll cover
the news out of San Diego that happened at the
San Diego Zoo this week.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
This was news to me also this morning. You tell
me about it.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
You want to get started, We've got a minute, we do. Okay,
let's get started. Then we'll take a break.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
So well, let's tell people what it's going to be about.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
Yeah, yeah, there you're going.

Speaker 4 (09:28):
Yeah, let's tell people how poor the reporting is that
we're going to do. Because of the reporting that we're reading.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
We're not sure if we've been misled or not.

Speaker 4 (09:38):
Yeah, but they said that they found a new plant
species species in the San Diego Zoo, not not like
like it's actually in the San Diego Zoo because they
have a wide variety of plants at the zoo. So yeah,
of course there's going to be cross pollination, so this
is a brand new species, we understand to.

Speaker 3 (10:00):
The article according to the artist.

Speaker 1 (10:01):
And it's interesting because I I deciphered that the person
who wrote the article was not even really a plant
person or a person there you.

Speaker 4 (10:11):
Go, So if there is anybody listening that works at
the San Diego Zoo it knows more information, Please chime
in on.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
Maybe your buddy John Clements knows.

Speaker 3 (10:20):
Oh yeah, maybe he does.

Speaker 1 (10:21):
All right, We're going to take a break for our
friends on biz Talk Radio Facebook Live. It'll be a
quicker break. Thank you for joining us. We're back in
Tiger's backyard. I'm Brian Maine, John Begnasco, Tiger Pella Fox
talking about a new species when we return after these messages. Again,
Big Thanking and Fertilom are major sponsor. But again messages
on bistalk Radio, do stay with us. How about that
for a break? Huh? That was a probably one of

(10:43):
the best breaks we've had in what three or four
years here on the Garden America. If you're just joining us,
it is Garden America. If you're just joining us and
you see us and you hear us, that's a good thing.
We're happy to be here. From Tiger's Backyard, Tiger Pella Fox.
I'm Brian Maine, John in the Middle. Do you know
that little like mel when John in the.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
Middle we got to finish up our Oh yeah, yeah,
otherwise something else, yes, exactly.

Speaker 3 (11:06):
So I'm gonna read this.

Speaker 4 (11:08):
This is from the Uptown News here in San Diego
because I found it to be the most thoroughly written
regarding this and it says um nestled in the shade
next to the Flamingo Lagoon, a new plant species has
been quietly growing at the San Diego Zoo. The dainty palm,
as it is now named, is a new plant species

(11:29):
that was discovered at the San Diego Zoo during a
routine check of its bountiful plant inventory. The plant was
first seen anchored in the shade of Fern Canyon, formally
called the Camaduria delicata. Slender bamboo stems shoot from the
base that are topped with featherlike leaves, hence the palm's

(11:50):
dainty look and name. The male species has bright yellow
flowers that turn black, while the females turned green to yellow.
So it from from that it sounds like they found
a brand new Camidia.

Speaker 3 (12:04):
So this is not a variety.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
This is more research needs to be done.

Speaker 4 (12:09):
On brand new cama out there, which is chemis are
a common pom.

Speaker 1 (12:14):
You know they would have noticed it earlier if it
wasn't quietly growing.

Speaker 2 (12:19):
I was still skeptical. Yeah, for for one, how did
it appear out of nowhere?

Speaker 3 (12:26):
Right right? I mean, like we said, there are a
lot of species of ponds.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
They discontinued their spontaneous generation display years ago.

Speaker 1 (12:36):
I couldn't have put it any better exactly.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
So it had to have come from.

Speaker 1 (12:42):
Other something else that was already there.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
Other camidurias that drop seed and set seed, right, so
I could see how it could be a variety of
a known species, or if, like you're saying it, it
tated into a completely new species. They're also Camindoria's are

(13:05):
di dioecious. So how all of a sudden there's not
only a male but a female.

Speaker 3 (13:11):
Yeah, no, I mean makes no sense.

Speaker 4 (13:14):
So from a gardencive, that's what we're saying. This article,
on the face value, is like really cool. It basically
kind of feels like the San Diego doo, a new
plant just spontaneously creative.

Speaker 2 (13:26):
First, the only one in the world.

Speaker 3 (13:27):
It's just there.

Speaker 4 (13:28):
Yeah, But when we really understand biology of plants and
how things happen, it's it's difficult to kind of.

Speaker 1 (13:38):
The article came out when this week, okay, two to
five days ago was discovered.

Speaker 3 (13:44):
When they don't we don't have that information.

Speaker 1 (13:46):
Because I was gonna say, kind of to piggyback what
John was saying, that's a lot of quick research around
the world to every pocket of whoever grows this or that,
and every every nursery and every park all around the
world to make a statement that nowhere else in the
world can this be found.

Speaker 2 (14:03):
That's why I'm thinking AI had something to do with
the reporting. You know, we don't we really don't know
the the technical aspects behind this discovery.

Speaker 4 (14:16):
Well, in the last I think reporting we did on
a new plant if you remember correctly, it was years ago,
and it was out here in the deserts of southern
California or Mexico where there was a dud leya and
I think they named it something like Marley because it
was I don't know, like, do you remember that one.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
Yeah, it wasn't Marley. It was a reggae jim I
thought it was Jimmy.

Speaker 4 (14:39):
I think it was a Hendrix, Yes, Hendrix. Yeah, Okay,
that's what it was. But but that kind of makes sense.
They were they discovered they were in the desert where
you know.

Speaker 1 (14:50):
Or if somebody came from the Amazon and made the
same claim, I would believe.

Speaker 2 (14:56):
That, but only if they had prime only.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
But but that's where you because they always say there's
there's got to be numerous plant species we haven't even
discovered yet, discovered in the Amazon, or discovered someplace else
in the Belgian congo or where else that I could. Okay,
I'll buy that. But if the San Diego Zoo.

Speaker 3 (15:16):
Hey, we'll see, we'll see.

Speaker 4 (15:18):
If we have anybody that works at the zoo and
report on this, this would be wonderful to kind of
find out more.

Speaker 3 (15:24):
Information because it is interesting.

Speaker 1 (15:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (15:25):
Sure, And I will say there are a lot of
people that visit the San Diego Zoo not to visit
the animals and see the animals, but to actually see
the plants.

Speaker 3 (15:35):
They have a plant species show the animals.

Speaker 2 (15:38):
Yeah, our friend from Eureka, Kathy, is joining us, and
I wanted to say happy anniversary.

Speaker 3 (15:48):
Oh, happy anniversary.

Speaker 2 (15:51):
I think you know, I can't remember, Kathy, apologize if
I've got the years wrong, but I think was like
close to thirty nine years.

Speaker 1 (16:00):
Thirty nine, Yeah, same ass, Jack Benny. That's right, he
was always he was always thirty nine.

Speaker 3 (16:07):
Yeah, always always Yeah, ask me back then.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
That was hilarious. That was like the biggest joke on
his show.

Speaker 1 (16:16):
Is Tiger's mic son. Is Tiger loud enough now?

Speaker 3 (16:18):
Because usually I listened and I feel I'm doing well, Okay.

Speaker 1 (16:21):
Well let us know, yeah, let us know. Well, congratulations
and uh, that's that's good to hear, Kathy, what I
see I like. I like looking at John's face when
he's reading some of these the expression, the grin on
his face.

Speaker 2 (16:36):
Well, you know, I the grin usually doesn't have this,
but it doesn't have anything to do with what I'm reading.
It's just the way my mind works.

Speaker 1 (16:46):
Like stream of consciousness.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
Like when you're talking, I I can't even share everything
that's going on in my mind. You know. Sometimes you're
talking and I'm hearing roses. You said something about a break,
and the first thing I think of is, oh, there's
a rose called break a day.

Speaker 1 (17:04):
Oh that's like being out with John. He goes, look
a butterfly. But but you and I, though we do
think a lot of.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
Like we do. It's a good thing we never went
to the same school or we're in the same class.
Neither one of us would have ever graduated.

Speaker 3 (17:20):
We would have it was just feet off of each other.

Speaker 1 (17:23):
Would have been the year we were supposed to.

Speaker 3 (17:26):
A couple of years afterwards.

Speaker 2 (17:29):
I did you ever skip a grade or get sent
back a grade?

Speaker 1 (17:33):
Never?

Speaker 2 (17:34):
Did you?

Speaker 3 (17:34):
No? Did you?

Speaker 2 (17:37):
They wanted to push me up a grade, and my
mom said no, which was a good thing. Well, not
only not only because everybody would have been a little
older than me, they would have been a lot older.
Because I just barely made the class that I was
in because I turned I turned. My birthday's in October

(18:01):
and school start in September back then, so I just
barely made that.

Speaker 1 (18:06):
I have a story about that. So my birthdays in November,
and I didn't make the cutoff for the class with
people that are more or less my age. I should
have been in the following class. So my mother's aunt said,
you know, he should get him in school as soon
as possible. He can take an aptitude test, I guess
prior to going into kindergarten.

Speaker 3 (18:26):
I'm also what is the kindergarten aptitude test?

Speaker 1 (18:29):
Looks got to be very basic. So myself and another
friend who's like ten days before me, in November, I remember,
we had we were sitting every I don't know, drawing, coloring, whatever,
and we made it. So I started kindergarten when I
was four years old.

Speaker 3 (18:43):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (18:44):
So yeah, so everybody was older than me all throughout school.
I was the last one to turn the age that
I should have been.

Speaker 2 (18:50):
Did I hear you say kindergarten? No, kindergarten, I know,
but kindergarten. Back then, we used to say kindergarten.

Speaker 3 (18:57):
Hear that Kindergaryeah, I've never heard.

Speaker 2 (18:59):
Yeah, it's really garden.

Speaker 1 (19:01):
Yeah. Did you get cooties? Did you get cooties in kindergarten?

Speaker 2 (19:04):
You know? I never graduated.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
We have to take a break. You can see where
this is going. We're going to work in plants and
horticulture and landscaping somehow. As Garden America continues from Tiger's
backyard here in San Diego, California, I know three knuckleheads, Tiger, Brian,
John back after these messages on biz talk radio. All right,
we made it back. Tiger made it back. John's here,

(19:27):
I'm here. Thank you for joining us on Garden America.
Wherever you're listening to us from, and again you can
catch this this same broadcast this afternoon on YouTube. Go
to Garden America Radio show right here on YouTube, and
there you are. And that's it.

Speaker 4 (19:40):
You know, you guys were talking before the break a
little bit about your kindergarten experiences getting into school. And
one other thing I think people don't always understand is
people that go to school for plants, for botany, for horticulture.

Speaker 3 (19:55):
There's some pretty interesting.

Speaker 4 (19:57):
Classes that they pair with with these subjects. You know,
for instance, you know Latin. You know, in order to
understand a lot of the name of plants and why
we name plants a certain way, you have to you
have to understand Latin. You have to understand, you know,
why we say a certain phrase for a plant because

(20:18):
of that it actually describes the plant.

Speaker 3 (20:20):
You know.

Speaker 4 (20:20):
But then at the same time, you know, we we
get into this discussion of like how to tell the
difference between plants, and we talk about, you know, their
leaf structure or the way that they flow, or how
many petals of flower.

Speaker 5 (20:34):
They have, and stuff like that taxonomy exactly, and and
and it's kind of an interesting thing when you really
get into it to look around in nature and see
how you can identify that, you know, like we're talking about.

Speaker 4 (20:47):
This new pole, you know. And for some people seeing
a plant, it's easy for them to see the differences
where other people they see, Oh it's green, and that's
all they that's all.

Speaker 1 (20:59):
These you know, they're not looking at leaf structured, they're
not looking at stems. They're not they're not.

Speaker 2 (21:03):
Looking for Some of our listeners might not know how
plants are classified, and and all plants are classified by
their flowers.

Speaker 4 (21:14):
So the real quick hold on, okay, because people don't
realize the all plants flower except for ferns.

Speaker 2 (21:23):
And gymnosperms, and okay, keep going angiosperms though, that's they're
the ones the flowers.

Speaker 1 (21:32):
Okay, I can learn. I'm listening, But.

Speaker 4 (21:36):
You were saying all plants flower. They classify them by
their flower.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
For instance, there's and they're they're one of the first
divisions of plants as families, right, I mean you've got
the animal kingdom, the plant kingdom, and then you have
wild kingdom mutual kingdom, breakdown into families and and uh,
for instance, the crucifery or what is it now that

(22:05):
was the old name for the family. Well that describes
plants in the crucifery family. But I think now they
are all families and in a c ae so ace
and I think it's brassic ace.

Speaker 3 (22:22):
Is that correct?

Speaker 2 (22:24):
But anyway, crucifery referred to cross or crucifix in the
flowers are four petals opposite each other with the stamens
and the pistol in the center. So all plants that
have that arrangement of flowers are in that family.

Speaker 3 (22:43):
And that's their first identified this family.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
Right, So if you're using a guide to try to
to uh figure out what a plant is, that would
be one of the breakdowns. First I would ask you,
you know, what are the flowers look like? You know,
and then and then break it down even further.

Speaker 4 (23:04):
Yeah, and then it becomes very difficult because then if
they're not flowering, you know, you can't tell some of
the plants because.

Speaker 2 (23:11):
Yeah, sometimes you have to just wait till they do flower.

Speaker 4 (23:14):
Right, because foliage, you can't break it down as much
with just the foliage, because there are ways to look
at how a plant's foliage comes out, whether it's equal
on both sides of the stem, where it's staggered on
both sides of the stem, on how the veins come out,
and different.

Speaker 3 (23:30):
Things like that. But even then that could change based
on the flowers.

Speaker 4 (23:34):
So so it all starts with the flower, and then
what do you think the next thing is the next
thing is foliage.

Speaker 2 (23:40):
Well, yeah, sometimes it's foliage. Sometimes there's other identifying characteristics
like thorns or prickles, things like that. Sometimes the makeup
of the plant, like in succulents, you know, do they
store water? Uh, that would put them into a different category.

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The arrangement of the leaves. You know, some plants have
palmate leaves, some plants have pinnate, some are bipinnate. So
and and then fruit sometimes yeah, yeah, you know, plants
in the rose family are easy to identify because of
their fruit.

Speaker 3 (24:22):
So no, I mean, so it's it's really interesting when people.

Speaker 4 (24:26):
Do go to school for for plants, whether it is
you know, horticoles are botany.

Speaker 1 (24:34):
So if you were mejoring, okay, So an example, if
you're if you're going to major in say botany, okay,
what what are the classes would go with that? Then
aren't necessarily directly related to plants with something that is
in other words, if you're going to major then like
like when I majored in telecommunications, take I didn't take

(24:56):
theater classes. I had to take sort of things that
were on the peripheral of that advertising media, that kind
of thing.

Speaker 2 (25:03):
By the way, I did not like botany and have
nothing to do with botany pretty much.

Speaker 3 (25:09):
Positive say to say.

Speaker 2 (25:11):
I think it's because the my college instructor had written
a book on slime molds, and half the course was
reading his book on slaughing.

Speaker 1 (25:22):
Because he wanted because he was proud of the book
and wanted you to read it.

Speaker 2 (25:25):
But botany is much different than horticulture, right, And in horticulture,
I like in taxonomy you can use in horticulture.

Speaker 1 (25:33):
Also, is there stuffing plants.

Speaker 2 (25:37):
That's taxidermy?

Speaker 3 (25:39):
Okay, it's very close, very similar.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
The I was just trying to think, what is the
plant equivalent of taxidermy.

Speaker 3 (25:47):
Called when they dry out the plants press? What are
there's a term for drying out plants and preserving them? Well?

Speaker 4 (25:55):
Where there I see them hanging up in people's barns,
you know where they.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
And they're when they're stored on those pages, and that's
called there's it's an herbarium.

Speaker 3 (26:05):
Yeah, that's called herbarium.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
They're put into an herbarium and when the plant was
first discovered, there's a sheet where all the parts of
the plant and leaves and seeds.

Speaker 3 (26:18):
Yeah, oh I true.

Speaker 2 (26:20):
Are pressed and stored somewhere in an irbarium, you can
see everything. So if you go out in the wilds
and you're trying to look for new plant species, uh,
and you find something, you'll go back, you know, and
I don't know if this stuff might be online, but
you would actually go back to the originally collected species
and say, Okay.

Speaker 3 (26:39):
Is this in there? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (26:40):
Or is it different?

Speaker 3 (26:42):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (26:42):
And it was difficult too, because you said, actually they
were all dried colors.

Speaker 4 (26:47):
Well, that's what I was going to say. They had
to try their best to preserve the color. They had
to try to their best preserve some of things because
because like you're saying.

Speaker 2 (26:54):
That's usually part of the description the color is.

Speaker 4 (26:56):
Yeah, and they had to be very spot on with
it because you know, red and pink, like you say,
a red flower dried is just gonna be. So they're
gonna go back and be like this is brandy, Like no, no, no,
you don't understand.

Speaker 3 (27:09):
When that first came in, it was red.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
Everything shades are brown. Fifty shades are brown when you're
in an herbarium.

Speaker 3 (27:19):
I'm just going to say something. Sorry, I interrupted you.
I got excited.

Speaker 2 (27:23):
I get excited talking about talking about plants.

Speaker 4 (27:27):
I don't blame you, but but you know you you said,
what would be a subject that you know people would
take with botany that you wouldn't expect it.

Speaker 1 (27:37):
Wouldn't and you go, you have to take that class? Yeah,
you have to do well.

Speaker 2 (27:41):
One of the things I want to tay out about
classifying plants that we didn't mention, which is pretty obvious
as seeds.

Speaker 3 (27:47):
Also, yes, you know they're how their seed is structured,
all of that.

Speaker 1 (27:51):
Right, you're gonna talk about scarifying again?

Speaker 2 (27:54):
No, okay, no, because it always.

Speaker 3 (27:59):
Confuses me, confuses me.

Speaker 4 (28:01):
Stratified scarify, the scarification of seeds.

Speaker 3 (28:04):
There's a book title exactly.

Speaker 4 (28:07):
But okay, what do you think would be a class
that a botanist would take.

Speaker 3 (28:11):
That you would not expect?

Speaker 1 (28:13):
Chemistry?

Speaker 3 (28:14):
You don't think botanists would take chemistry?

Speaker 1 (28:16):
Like kind of like, eh, I thought you said, what
would what I think would be like a peripheral class.

Speaker 4 (28:22):
But but but but I think that that's that's what.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
A botanist would take chemistry.

Speaker 3 (28:26):
Yeah, exactly, boy, I don't I don't.

Speaker 1 (28:31):
I don't know enough about that that major that a
college would think you need to have this as a
not an elective. But it's something that they that part
of a major encompasses several things sometimes, Yeah, and I
don't know outside of the direct relationship with with botany
or horticulture, it would require.

Speaker 4 (28:52):
One of the things that I always found interesting in
college was, you know, the people that took those science
majors as far as chemistry biology. One of the classes
that was always paired with that was just measurements, meaning
how to take proper measurements, whether it is with fluids

(29:13):
or linked that. Yeah, it was just straight because that
was the thing with those subjects. They had to be
very specific, you know, on how to measure things that
they would have to take a class on. You know,
if you're measuring this liquid, what do you use to
measure it? If you're measuring these how to take the
proper message.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
You've just given me an idea for a question about that.
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(30:13):
So getting back to my question about what you would
have to take, would there be a class on understanding
photosynthesis things like that? Is that more science?

Speaker 2 (30:24):
No, that would be that would be biology. Yeah, y, biology,
that is.

Speaker 3 (30:29):
Part of botany.

Speaker 4 (30:30):
Okay, yeah, because I mean, you know, biology makes a
lot of sense when it comes to botany because a
lot of it is biology, how the cells are.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
Structure, How biology is broken into two parts botany and soology.

Speaker 1 (30:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (30:44):
Yeah, So I mean, you know, understanding how plants. I mean,
you know, that's why we talk about people. You know,
we talk about a real basic part of plants is
does it grow.

Speaker 3 (30:53):
In the sun or shade? Right?

Speaker 4 (30:54):
And why Why is that so important? Why why do
plants either need sun or do plants either need shade?
And you know why do some do better in shade?
And that has to do with the biology of that plant, right,
you know, because.

Speaker 1 (31:10):
Self structure breaking it right down to the.

Speaker 4 (31:12):
Yeah, the leaf, the photosynthesic you know, how does it
photosynthesize the leaf? How that leaf responds to you know,
the exposure of the sun. You know what encourages flowering?
You know, because that's that's the thing. Like somebody was
talking about lantana the other day. I'm like, lantana grows everywhere,
and and they were like, oh, you know, I want

(31:32):
to plant lantana on this hillside, and but I think
it's a little too shady. I'm like, you know, it'll grow,
it'll it'll be okay, it just won't bloom that much
because it doesn't bloom as much in the shade as
it does in the sun. It's like, well, why, you know,
why does that happen? Why does the sun encourage blooming?
You know kind of a thing. It's pretty you know,
pretty interesting stuff.

Speaker 3 (31:52):
I have a question for you. Okay, this is pretty deep,
all right, go deep.

Speaker 2 (31:57):
Okay, you were just talking about how plants grow, uh,
and how sunlight affects their growth. Right if you go
back to Genesis and and I could and I could
be wrong, I could be mis miss miss remembering. Uh,
but plants were created before the sun, right, how did

(32:19):
they live?

Speaker 3 (32:21):
I lived?

Speaker 1 (32:21):
They lived on the on the on the light of God,
the brilliance and the light of God.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
Now see you told me that you thought the whole
world was mushrooms for a day.

Speaker 3 (32:31):
Yeah, because they don't need light. Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (32:34):
But anyway, that's why I don't believe in a long
creation period. If you if you use the Bible as
a source of creation, because the sun was created the
next day, right, so if.

Speaker 4 (32:46):
There was no problem if Yeah, and like you're saying,
if plants were around and they didn't have sun for
a million years, they would have died out long ago, right.

Speaker 1 (32:53):
Yeah, one one night's not going to hurt them. Yeah,
you know what, I can, I can survive. Anyway, I
could be wrong. I got question. So Carlo's got a question, right, she.

Speaker 2 (33:01):
Has a question. She had a comment. Okay, maybe you're
talking about a question that I haven't gotten to yet.
But back to speaking of roses, She said, that the
rose auction last Saturday was wonderful and she enjoyed seeing
established friends and meeting new ones.

Speaker 1 (33:16):
That was on Saturday. Yeah, well where were you on Sunday?

Speaker 2 (33:21):
Well, you would have been one of the established friends. Okay,
but she got to meet Greg Lowry and and Linda
from Huntington Beach who's a listener. And uh, she had
a good time visiting with Lila from Poway.

Speaker 1 (33:36):
Lyla was here on Sunday too because she had.

Speaker 2 (33:38):
She got to meet her husband, Harry.

Speaker 3 (33:42):
Harry was making the scene, Carla.

Speaker 4 (33:44):
Carla has a question, okay, speaking of foliage, what is
the leaf structure of the little miss figgy fig tree?

Speaker 3 (33:51):
And you know I did not.

Speaker 2 (33:53):
Well did you bring up the question with checking up?

Speaker 4 (33:56):
Because it's kind of a funny question. So I have
a question for Carlin, and.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
What does she mean by leaf strucu by the leaf.

Speaker 3 (34:03):
Structure of that?

Speaker 4 (34:05):
Like why why does she want to know the leaf
structure of the little miss?

Speaker 2 (34:12):
Like before we answer your question, Carl, we want to
know why why would you.

Speaker 1 (34:17):
You asked that?

Speaker 4 (34:21):
Because the little miss that's very specific, don't you think
I'm sure?

Speaker 1 (34:29):
I'm sure Carl is typing away right.

Speaker 2 (34:30):
Now, Tanya by the way in San Jose had a
comment for you. Yeah, she said she would like to
meet just in time.

Speaker 1 (34:39):
Just in time, Just in time. That's good.

Speaker 2 (34:42):
You remember Hudson and Bauers used to have a bit.
This is an old radio show, right and I think
your wife Dana used to be a producer for.

Speaker 3 (34:52):
Their show, right, Yes, she was.

Speaker 2 (34:54):
But they had a bit that they did with a
Cajun chef and his name was just disgusting.

Speaker 3 (35:02):
Do you remember that? Just disgusting, just disgusting.

Speaker 4 (35:06):
Okay, So the leaf structure of the fig tree is
a siconium what seconium that is lined internally with numerous
unisexual flowers. So it's the it's three or five lobes.
But that's the fruit, not the not the oh, the
fruit is right right um.

Speaker 2 (35:31):
Joyce by the way, said our key limes were ready,
And I think you were wondering about that, Brian.

Speaker 3 (35:36):
I was.

Speaker 1 (35:37):
I inquired previously.

Speaker 2 (35:39):
Do you know that do they call key limes key
limes in California? Now I know they never used to,
but in California the Bartenders line or Mexican.

Speaker 3 (35:51):
Line, Mexican line, Yeah, they call them Mexican line. Yeah,
they don't call them key limes here.

Speaker 2 (35:56):
But it's the same thing as that. Yes, Joyce wants
to know when to fertilize citrus trees.

Speaker 1 (36:03):
Well, hold on, why does she want to know that?

Speaker 2 (36:07):
Because you get three free questions a month and this
is her first. Okay, I'm sorry, so she still has
I apologize two more after this. Do not fertilize citrus now,
as a matter of fact, is a general rule. I'm thinking,
unless it's a winter vegetable or something that really grows
in the winter, don't fertilize anything this time year.

Speaker 1 (36:29):
You don't encourage We don't have.

Speaker 2 (36:31):
To tell people in cold climates because it's already cold. Yeah,
but do you know what we used to do in
Michigan fertilized in January, December, January, February unintentionally because let

(36:53):
me tell you, tiger, Okay, all right, we had ice
back there, right, gott to melt the ice. People throw
salt in the spring. When the snow melts, the salt,
salt hurts plants. Yeah, so they had a big thing
where they'd start throwing out ammonium sulfate instead, which is
a fertilizer. Right, So in the spring when it melted.

(37:15):
Instead of hurting plants, you got this huge.

Speaker 1 (37:18):
Up the pH Then you did just the opposite because
the salts right would get into the soil.

Speaker 3 (37:24):
Well, salt would just kill everything.

Speaker 2 (37:26):
Both are salts. It's just real salt. Sodium chlorite is
poisonous to plants, where other salts are beneficial, like ammonium nitrate,
ammonium sulfate.

Speaker 1 (37:38):
Well, there's your chemistry right there.

Speaker 3 (37:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (37:40):
So all the plants along the sides of road, the
road just took off in the snow.

Speaker 2 (37:45):
No, the sides of the road they did.

Speaker 3 (37:47):
We're going to take so they were all this was
more like pathways or sidewalk.

Speaker 2 (37:52):
Well people's homes.

Speaker 1 (37:55):
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Speaker 3 (38:17):
Had a good time with, something we learned a lot.

Speaker 4 (38:19):
There was there was someone that commented on did she
get college credit for that first hour of watching the show?

Speaker 3 (38:26):
Right?

Speaker 1 (38:26):
I think, yeah, just let us know, send us a sign.

Speaker 3 (38:30):
It, you know your credit credit, no credit? Do you know?

Speaker 2 (38:33):
We were talking about how Latin really helps in taxonomy,
and I had two years of Latin, which I think
helps in other things too. It helped me in English. Yeah,
I remember me the first time I heard the word
pul cratude. Yeah, time, Yeah, Brian uses it every day now.

Speaker 1 (38:50):
But it's a dance the polka. You ever do the polk.

Speaker 2 (38:52):
Critude polka pul cratude, and pulk cratude means beauty. And
when I saw the word, I knew it because pool
care in Latin is beautiful or beauty pool care, pool
care p.

Speaker 3 (39:06):
P U l C g R. When I see the
pool truck.

Speaker 1 (39:09):
Down I was taking. I took Latin lessons from Johnny
years ago, and I was doing okay to we quit.

Speaker 2 (39:16):
Well used to have a feature yeah on the show.

Speaker 1 (39:18):
And you learned Brian learns a new word, so floribus union.

Speaker 2 (39:23):
But I wanted to mention I also took a year
at Greek and Greek was also very helpful because taxonomy
is plant names that are either latinized or or Greek
heist if that's the word.

Speaker 4 (39:40):
Uh Veronica, Speaking of plants, I know it's not the
best time of year, but one of my plumerias is
a broken branch, How deep to pot it? And how
big of a pot leave in the sunner shade. Now
this is a little bit of a loaded question because
it kind of depends on how big the branch is,
because I've had, you know, cuttings of plume area that

(40:00):
are only eight inches and you put it into the
soil maybe three inches, just enough for it to be stable,
and it could be in a one gallon pot, you know,
note a big deal. But at the same time, I've
also had branches that had not just the main branch,
but actually other branches on it off too, that is

(40:22):
much bigger, and they could be two feet tall. And
I put that into a five or fifteen gallon pot
for stability, and I put that about nine to ten
inches into the soil.

Speaker 1 (40:36):
Can't support itself exactly.

Speaker 4 (40:37):
And then I also put a steak on there to
make it go even deeper, because I guess you could
go too deep, you know, you don't want to put
more than maybe a foot of the plumaria cutting into
the ground, because then you could deal with other rotting
issues or you know, just not having it, you know,

(40:58):
be able to really reduce the proper roots out of
the cut. So there is a too deep kind of
a thing, but shallow wise, you just put it in
for stability. So it kind of depends on the cutting.

Speaker 1 (41:10):
Size so I can support it enough to support itself.

Speaker 3 (41:12):
Yes, exactly.

Speaker 4 (41:15):
But then also I do want to say, Veronica made
a comment John to yours and it says John C.
Genesis one one, dish five verst one five. It says
light created before plants.

Speaker 2 (41:29):
Okay, Veronica, thank you for that. But the sun was
created on day four. Plants were created on day three.

Speaker 3 (41:38):
Right.

Speaker 4 (41:39):
But but but it also does say, and I don't know,
I'm asking, is there some point that says light is created?

Speaker 3 (41:44):
So is it contradicting?

Speaker 1 (41:46):
Is look if you if God is light? Okay, okay,
So that that's where I go. They didn't need the sun,
yeah right away, God didn't it. Okay, that's that's that's
just my my take.

Speaker 2 (41:58):
All right, Well, the light source was created on day one,
that's what you're talking about Brian.

Speaker 1 (42:05):
Okay, yeah, yeah, that's what I'm talking about. The camera.

Speaker 2 (42:09):
Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. Okay, But the sun
was created. What I was referring to is the sun
was created on day four. Plants were created on day three.

Speaker 4 (42:20):
Yeah, I mean yeah, you know what next show, when
we're doing theology, I was.

Speaker 3 (42:25):
Going to streak into that.

Speaker 1 (42:25):
Someone's going to get their credit for theology now.

Speaker 4 (42:28):
And that's another part of botany. You might want to
say this theology. You might not think, hey, this is
a great This is why I asked before I asked.

Speaker 3 (42:35):
Carla, I said, why do you want to know this?

Speaker 4 (42:37):
Yes, here's why. Because she thought she bought This is why.
What is the leaf structure of the little Miss Figgie.

Speaker 1 (42:44):
She wants to make sure she bought the right one.

Speaker 4 (42:46):
I thought I bought one and the leaves are broad,
regular looking. Fig saw one at home depot and the
leaves were skinny and more pointy. Sorry, I tried to
be succinct and efficient for once.

Speaker 3 (43:01):
You're perfect. No, but this is why. This is why.

Speaker 2 (43:04):
A second, the way she would say that would be sorry.

Speaker 3 (43:06):
Sorry, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 4 (43:09):
But but but so she's trying to identify whether she
brought it.

Speaker 2 (43:14):
We're figg lucky that our listeners have a good sense
of humor, by the way, and they know when we're
joking exactly.

Speaker 4 (43:21):
But the little Miss Figgie does not have a narrow
pointy leaf. The little Miss Figgy has a large lobed
just like a regular fig. There are figs that have
the narrow pointy leave.

Speaker 2 (43:35):
Really, yeah, edible figs are you talking about.

Speaker 4 (43:39):
I'm talking about fighting Oh yeah, yeah, you know, there
are ficus that have that pointy leaf, but edible figs
they're all kind of.

Speaker 3 (43:47):
Have that more large lobed yea.

Speaker 4 (43:50):
Even the small compact varieties like little Miss Figgy or
Phenomenal or any of those ones.

Speaker 2 (43:55):
You should be able to look at it and go, yeah,
that's a fig exactly.

Speaker 3 (43:58):
Yeah, an edible one.

Speaker 4 (44:00):
You know, if it doesn't look like one, it's probably
not little Miss Figgy. So I think that what she's
saying is like, yeah, the skinny one at home Depot
was not little Miss Figgie. Question question mark at home
Depot with their tagging, Yeah, let's see here there was another.

(44:21):
Uh three Oh, Veronica's plumara cutting is three feet tall.
The guilty party shall rename Lameness. You know it's funny, Veronica.
If you're watching right now the program, if you look
above my head, above your head to the right now,
right now, when the camera is on, you can see
plumeria sitting behind me right now, and it's sitting if

(44:42):
you can't tell, right in the middle of the fair
way for my son to play. And if you look
at that plumeria closely, you will see about five or
six broken spots on it from him hitting it with
the ball, yeah, and breaking off parts of it. And
I just keep propagating from that one because he keeps

(45:02):
breaking off branches.

Speaker 2 (45:04):
What did you tell her to do? Now?

Speaker 3 (45:05):
Though?

Speaker 2 (45:05):
If she's got that broken branch, so to let a
cal usolver, right.

Speaker 4 (45:09):
You've got to let it? Call us over. She want
to know how deep to put it in the pot?
And with a three foot one I would go about
eight or ten inches in a pot, I would probably
do about a fifteen gallon pot. For stability really well,
I mean it depends on how the branching is. Would
you only do five?

Speaker 3 (45:26):
Well?

Speaker 2 (45:27):
What I'm wondering about is if it's going to be
exposed to the elements, because it's not going to root now, right,
it's not warm enough, and if it's in a big
pot that's going to be rained on and be wet
all winter and on cold on top of that, it
might just rot. So you could put it in a

(45:47):
bigger pot if you had to protect it, you know,
under an overhang or something, just so that it didn't
stay cold and wet all winter.

Speaker 3 (45:56):
Got it.

Speaker 4 (45:57):
But otherwise, if it is going to be exposed, yes,
I'm spring five gallon pot, and just make sure it's stable, like,
make sure it doesn't fall.

Speaker 2 (46:03):
Yeah, put in a steak. We've talked about that before.
You know, always steak, stake them up so the wind
doesn't blow them over. But she does live in Spring Valley,
which is a little bit warmer than the coast. It's
a lot warmer well, depending on the time of year exactly.

Speaker 3 (46:18):
So yeah, I don't.

Speaker 2 (46:20):
Know, it's hard to say.

Speaker 4 (46:22):
And then you know, John brings up a great question,
a great point in terms of you know, this time
of year, if you're going to you know, because you
can do this, meaning you know, hey, save the plant.
You know, it's better than just losing a branch of
your plumerea. Right, but use a cactus mix or use
something heavily mixed with pumis because you can't do anything

(46:42):
about rain, and if it rains on it, it needs
to drain, So be don't use the regular ponties.

Speaker 3 (46:48):
We definitely don't go using the end if.

Speaker 2 (46:50):
You're using a light fast sin. Yeah, but for sure
you need a steak, right yeah, because that's not going
to hold it up rather than using a soil with
a lot of vermiculate. If you use pummus like you said,
that does it adds a little more stability.

Speaker 3 (47:07):
Yeah yeah, yeah so uh and.

Speaker 2 (47:10):
Le points out she's she could keep it inside, you know,
near a sunny window.

Speaker 3 (47:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (47:16):
Uh, so I can put it on a shaded patio. Yes,
that is correct as well, because.

Speaker 3 (47:19):
I mean it doesn't growing.

Speaker 4 (47:21):
It's not growing, it doesn't need the sunlight like you
know normally you know there, you know, what was it?

Speaker 3 (47:27):
I think you were telling us before about like there
are some plants that.

Speaker 4 (47:30):
Just people put in their garage over the winter time
where they don't need any light or anything. Things that
go dorm it and they just put these pots with
bulbs and things like that and in their garages because
they can just stack them up in there and keep
them dry and not let them get too cold and
things like that, and and and that is pretty interesting
when you know plants just go into full dormancy, right.

Speaker 2 (47:52):
You know there's parts of the country. Uh main for
one place, they put roses in the garage. Put him
in the right, otherwise they would freeze.

Speaker 1 (48:07):
Break time, gotta take a break. Okay, stay on time
for biz talk Radio. Back after these messages. This is
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Thank you to those that may be tuning in for
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Speaker 2 (48:25):
Part of the yeats the club.

Speaker 1 (48:27):
Welcome to the club, the Garden Club here better known
as Garden America.

Speaker 2 (48:30):
Tom said him, Yeah, we didn't.

Speaker 1 (48:33):
What is like seven o'clock at night, I don't know.
But he's one of our faithful listeners.

Speaker 3 (48:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (48:39):
I hope we get to meet him someday.

Speaker 3 (48:43):
Let's see.

Speaker 2 (48:45):
I'm wondering if I missed anybody's question. Yeah, I was
just looking back to Okay, I'll let you look back
because I'm getting dizzy while I'm trying to.

Speaker 4 (48:53):
Find Carla did make a comment though, she said, uh,
you know, and for what it's worth. I agree with
John and Bryan's theology. Yeah, you know that that is
a whole nother realm of you know, understanding right theology,
like what you know, what do they mean and why
and how and all of that and and if you

(49:16):
think about anything like that. We talked about plants before,
we were talking about you know, college courses for plants
kind of is the same thing. Understanding what early explores,
what early botan is, what early you know, people with
biology we're trying to do and now we have more
data from it.

Speaker 1 (49:36):
And so what you were saying about the Griffith Observatory
tiger and just all the fascinating things that you discovered,
things that we that we know about. But the fact
of the matter is they discover things long before we
had the resources that we do today.

Speaker 2 (49:49):
I like the way you keep your thought during the
break and you don't miss a beat.

Speaker 3 (49:54):
Yeah, not one break there at all.

Speaker 4 (49:57):
But no, I mean it is really interesting to kind
of see that people before they had all the ability
to measure, to see, to dissect something, they had this
thought and and to see it actually be true proven
by science is really neat.

Speaker 2 (50:19):
And I thought I made a profound point before our
break break, Yeah, which I think I'm gonna make again
because I'll let the audience decide whether it's profound or not.
But what I was telling saying Tiger was the difference
between Galileo and a couple hundred years later and then

(50:41):
today with the Griffith Observatory and the and uh thee
everything that's out there, that the amount of difference between
Galileo and today is the is probably not as great
is the difference between today and the way things really are.

Speaker 3 (51:06):
Right.

Speaker 2 (51:07):
So, I mean, we think we know so much now.

Speaker 3 (51:11):
Don't we don't know more? It's like actually supported.

Speaker 2 (51:14):
Well, it's like we're back in Galileo's time though for
what we really know. Yeah, I mean the universe is
so vast.

Speaker 1 (51:21):
And you know it's not talked about a lot because
scientists have egg on their face to some degree. Is
that the James Wood now which took over for Hubble,
which can see further which you go in deep space,
is discovering things that we didn't really we were wrong about.
And I can't get specific on certain things, but I
remember reading it had to do with a big bang actually,

(51:42):
how they were reconsidering that theory too, based on what
the telescope looking for into space is actually observing and
what they can see. So again, it gets back to
as much as we know, we know, we know far
less than what we think we know.

Speaker 2 (52:00):
That's the point I was trying.

Speaker 3 (52:01):
Yeah, yeah, but just in a different word. Yeah yeah,
same same point.

Speaker 2 (52:06):
I like the way Brian takes what I say and
puts it into something understand for the.

Speaker 1 (52:10):
Late the late person, you know, But I gotta I
got a guess on our time here for the next break.
But I'll fake it. Okay, we'll be We'll be fine.

Speaker 3 (52:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (52:19):
Think for those of you that are joining the show again,
you know, thank you very much for jumping over to
the next video.

Speaker 1 (52:27):
We think we have a theory which we're going to
discuss this week.

Speaker 4 (52:29):
Yeah, we're gonna try to change up another thing. He face,
are guest guessing, you know, they're guest guessing, but they're
also guessing. But but but guesting.

Speaker 1 (52:41):
Can can we say that Facebook is kicking us off?

Speaker 3 (52:44):
Well? Yeah, I mean, I mean I don't want to
say that.

Speaker 2 (52:46):
Oh great, I'm not We'll never finish the show again, Yeah, exactly,
don't even mention that work. Hey, you know you were
giving class credits. Yes, and Veronica now wants to know
if she can have credit for botany, Latin, Greek, religion,
and zoology.

Speaker 3 (53:04):
Look at that, you know, Yeah, I think I think
we hit those all as.

Speaker 1 (53:09):
I'm impressed that she can name those almost in the
exact order.

Speaker 2 (53:14):
Yeah, I'm just suppressed that somebody listens to that closely.

Speaker 1 (53:17):
Yeah, right, yes you can get credit.

Speaker 4 (53:21):
So I have a question back to that whole idea
of plants zoo. Do you think that the animals eat
certain plants because they just simply like those ones or
is there something physically needed in the animal from that plant,

(53:43):
meaning like, look at humans.

Speaker 1 (53:44):
And the plant knows it needs it. Yeah, the animal
knows it.

Speaker 3 (53:47):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 4 (53:48):
Look at humans, you know, we have a wide range
of appeals of food that we like. I would say
most humans are driven to eat things because they enjoy it, yes,
it toss me because they need it. Where you know, animals,
I feel they have a better understanding of their needs,
their dietary needs, and they're more focused on survival that

(54:10):
I would argue that animals eat plants because they need
those plants.

Speaker 1 (54:15):
Can I can I put a little shade on your
theory when it comes to cats and the certain food
that we feed them. Right, you know, you give a dog,
you can pick up something from this yard, the dog
will eat it so grateful. You can give a cat
the same food for two days. The third day, I
don't want it, Yeah, but you liked it. I don't.
I want something else. I don't want this, And it

(54:35):
become anybody that's a cat, person who's had cats.

Speaker 3 (54:38):
Yeah, it can be very a.

Speaker 4 (54:39):
Bunch of leftover food in your closet because they eventually
stopped eating.

Speaker 1 (54:44):
So they go strictly for taste. They have no idea
what's good for them, so that that's taste. We know
that broccoli is good for you. Some people like broccoli,
but you know what, maybe I want bacon.

Speaker 2 (54:55):
Not George Bush Senior likeli, I mean, not gonna go there.

Speaker 4 (55:00):
I mean it is really a really interesting thing because
you know, we talked about this before. At the San
Diego Zoo, they have to grow a lot of their plant.

Speaker 3 (55:08):
To feed the animals that they have in the zoo.

Speaker 1 (55:10):
Or do the animals just eat it because there's nothing
else to eat they have to.

Speaker 4 (55:13):
I mean that's interesting to kind of think, like, you know,
if you started feeding a panda.

Speaker 3 (55:20):
Spinach rather than bamboo.

Speaker 1 (55:23):
What didn't starve you know?

Speaker 3 (55:25):
Yeah? Would it just not eat spinach?

Speaker 2 (55:28):
Well? There, their systems are designed to absorb certain nutrients
from bamboo. Uh huh, so it couldn't get it any
other way. But I think that that animals are like people.
They like what it is that they're eating. Yeah, so
they're gonna eat it.

Speaker 1 (55:47):
I'm gonna guess on the time. We're going to take
a break just for the network because of the little
snaff who we had there the reset, So we're gonna
take a message and take a message. We're going to
take a break for BIS Talk radio. Beck after these
messages here on guard in America. Hey, we are back.
We have two more segments. By the way, this is
the longer segment. This is where we can pontificate to

(56:08):
our heart's desire.

Speaker 2 (56:10):
John, we're not going off script. You're not suggesting that.
Oh he no, gosh, Now, let me let me see
where we are.

Speaker 1 (56:18):
Right here.

Speaker 2 (56:19):
Oh my gosh, I didn't even realize we had all
that left to go.

Speaker 1 (56:22):
And that's that's where we are.

Speaker 2 (56:24):
We should tell our listeners too, by the way, that
we're coming into the holidays. Our schedule is going to
be erratic.

Speaker 3 (56:31):
Yeah, and much.

Speaker 1 (56:32):
Like much like our shows have been the past couple
of months. But Tiger's off, We're off next week.

Speaker 3 (56:39):
We're off next right right.

Speaker 4 (56:41):
Yeah, If anybody wants to visit me in Norco, California,
that's where I'll be.

Speaker 3 (56:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (56:46):
No, I'll go as far as Corona, but I'm not
going to go to Norco. Do you have a shop
at Norco's shop at Norcos Norcos that's.

Speaker 1 (56:55):
Where he's going shopping for Christmass Mall.

Speaker 4 (56:59):
You know it's and if there's anybody listening that is
from Norco or loves Norco, I'm sorry, but I I
was trying to just be creative and see what are
some fun things to do in Norco. So, you know,
you go onto the internet, you type in fun things
to do in Norco, California.

Speaker 1 (57:20):
And getting a pizza.

Speaker 4 (57:23):
Well, trip advisor has always great suggestions, right because trip
Advisors always filled with comments from people that have visited
places and have ideas for places to go and all
of that.

Speaker 1 (57:34):
Now I know where you're going with this. You looked
up fun things to do and there was just a
picture of some guy going.

Speaker 4 (57:39):
No that would be that would be that would be
almost better than what I got back. So I'm going
up there for a lacrosse tournament for Isaac, and we're
going to be at the uh Silver Silver Lakes Sports Complex,
Equestrian Polo Center, all that, right, And I've been there
before and it's great location. The number one thing to

(58:02):
do in Norco go to the Silver Lakes Equestrian Center,
the Sports Complex.

Speaker 3 (58:08):
So I'm doing the number one, number one thing. Yeah already.

Speaker 1 (58:11):
So anything that you would look forward that's different is no,
you're doing.

Speaker 2 (58:16):
It, doing it.

Speaker 4 (58:17):
I'm hitting the teeth there overnight. Yeah, we're staying there
for three days. We drive up on Friday, Saturday, and
then done on Sunday.

Speaker 3 (58:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (58:25):
I used to have hockey tournaments in La various places
in California. Yeah, and I know, you know what, what's
funny A quick quick story. When I was in college,
we had a road trip to Salt Lake City.

Speaker 3 (58:36):
So from Flag Stay actually after Salt Lake City? How
far is that so?

Speaker 1 (58:40):
Gosh, probably six hundred more? Okay, okay, But the point
is once we got there, now we're we're guys, we're
late teens, early twenties, right, we want to play hockey,
get a beer party afterwards. So our game gets over
at nine o'clock or something like that, we get ready.

Speaker 4 (58:56):
To go out stay there's no place it's.

Speaker 1 (58:59):
It's you're done. There's dark out, there's nobody there.

Speaker 2 (59:03):
What did we do?

Speaker 1 (59:04):
Back to the hotel room and watched Donnie and Marie.
That was our night after a hockey game with a
bunch of guys that you know, you want to get
out there. But yeah, just it's all relative, you know.
But but yeah, there was nothing to do after that
after eight o'clock at night.

Speaker 3 (59:20):
That's a beautiful drive Flags City.

Speaker 4 (59:23):
You drive some through some really, I mean you're in
the forest, pine trees, all of that.

Speaker 1 (59:31):
As well. That's good Flags to have to call it anyway,
So yeah, beautiful part of the country.

Speaker 2 (59:35):
We had a you know, I don't know if was
Salt Lake City, but at the rochow last week someone
came down from Utah, Okay, and he was interested. He's
working on a project where they want to have they
have problems with trees up there because of the heat

(59:57):
turning brown and so for ship they were thinking of
building structures and having roses go over the road. So
they wanted roses that were fast growers and huge growers.

Speaker 1 (01:00:12):
And when you say go over the road, what.

Speaker 2 (01:00:14):
Like they building structures over the road like a tunnel
and then have climbing roses go over there. So I've
never been in Utah. It sounds like a nice it's ambitious.
I've never seen that done before. But I had mentioned
to them that, well, you know those types of roses
that are really huge or usually once blooming like the

(01:00:38):
kiffskate ROAs, you only need to be once blooming on
that road.

Speaker 1 (01:00:42):
Yeah, yeah, you'll be planting every year.

Speaker 2 (01:00:44):
And so I thought that that might be a deturn
to what they wanted to do. He goes, you know,
that's great. That's what we prefer because we don't want
to be cleaning up messes.

Speaker 3 (01:00:52):
All all the time. Don't do a boga villa, then, no,
don't do so that's what.

Speaker 4 (01:00:58):
So it worked well that they have ideas, would pay
Martin work that not that big.

Speaker 2 (01:01:07):
I don't know if Peggy Martin and it would be
midway maybe eventually. But there's other that other roses that
that will get to be Well, let's take Montecito. Monsito
came was developed here in southern California and monecito will
grow one hundred feet tall. Okay, so I don't know

(01:01:28):
if you want to roast that vigorous, but one hundred
feet one hundred feet.

Speaker 1 (01:01:33):
A picture of that, I'd love to see a picture
of that.

Speaker 2 (01:01:35):
At the at the Huntington Gardens, there is one that's
not even in the rose garden. It's in the forest
behind the rose garden, growing up a huge sycamore about
one hundred feet tall.

Speaker 4 (01:01:50):
Goodness, Rick, Rick, I wanted to report to us that
his Norfolk plant Science is GMO. Purple tomato turned out
to have the best flavor of all the tomatoes he
grew this year.

Speaker 3 (01:02:06):
Wow, purple tomato, I mean the best flavor. Yeah, because
that's a tough thing.

Speaker 4 (01:02:10):
That was one of the problems that they had with
the beginning of the purple tomatoes, right John, They didn't taste.

Speaker 3 (01:02:14):
Good, so they breed them. You know that people would
the right.

Speaker 2 (01:02:22):
I'm trying to the actually I held the world right
to that first purple tomato, the company that I was with.

Speaker 3 (01:02:35):
So you're trying to track down Rick's source so you
can claim something.

Speaker 2 (01:02:38):
Well, that was called the called in to go rows
if you remember, but that was not GMO. So I'm
not sure which one Rick is talking about. If it's
a GMO purple tomato, I'd have to look that up,
he says, Norfolk Plant Sciences.

Speaker 4 (01:02:58):
Then Paula wrote, heard Juliette grape, which is a tomato,
is still producing regularly in Fallbrook.

Speaker 3 (01:03:06):
Makes sense.

Speaker 2 (01:03:06):
That's got great flavor.

Speaker 4 (01:03:08):
Yeah, and that one will probably go in Fallbrook all
the way until you get your first real hard cold,
which might be like December maybe, right, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:03:17):
Yeah, so juliet is what they they usually refer to
as a two BikeE tomato, Yeah, because that's a little
bit bigger than a cherry, and cherries are one bite tomatoes,
but this is a two bike I like the new
grapes that are in the supermarket that are two bites
like actual grape. Not yet, No, the grapes the actual

(01:03:41):
flavor though delicious, really Yeah, some of the new grapes.

Speaker 3 (01:03:45):
Have you seen the ones packaged with the name cotton Candy.

Speaker 2 (01:03:48):
I did you know? And don't those have a little
tiny seed in them?

Speaker 3 (01:03:51):
No? Not the ones I've had.

Speaker 1 (01:03:53):
These are new grapes where they discovered at the.

Speaker 2 (01:03:55):
Zoo, new variety covered at Albertsons.

Speaker 3 (01:04:03):
Well, that is the funny thing.

Speaker 4 (01:04:04):
So you know, we've talked about this with the cutis right,
the qute mandarins right, that it's not always the same
mandarin like, sometimes you show up and they're easy to peel.

Speaker 3 (01:04:13):
Sometimes you show up bigger or smaller.

Speaker 4 (01:04:15):
Well, with the packaging of that cotton candy grape on
the package right away it says like, oh, you know,
this is a collection of varieties that we find to
have the sweetest and so it could be just a
basic grape, but it's grown sweeter because you can grow.

Speaker 3 (01:04:29):
Grapes to be sweeter or or more full of water.

Speaker 4 (01:04:34):
You know, what is that test that they call on
it when they're brick not the bricks rich squares, but
also vintners use it for measuring things in the in
the grape as well. I don't know if it's the
sugar maybe that is, I don't know, but you could
grow grapes. There's ways to grow grapes sweeter or less sweet,

(01:04:57):
or with more water or with less.

Speaker 1 (01:04:59):
Water, with with every variety or certain varieties.

Speaker 3 (01:05:01):
No, with every variety. It depends on how you know.

Speaker 4 (01:05:05):
You know, that's why these people go to school to
learn on how to grow the grapes and what to
do when and you know, wind to water and wind
to fertile life.

Speaker 2 (01:05:14):
No, Brian went to school to do that with I
went to school to eat my lunch, to get your lunch,
because you got a free lunch at school.

Speaker 1 (01:05:24):
That's a term when when somebody says something very smart
and prolific, like if Tiger says something, boy, Tiger, you
didn't go to school just to eat your lunch, did you.

Speaker 2 (01:05:33):
Paula said that she tries to keep hers growing throughout
the year, which, oh Paula, the Juliette and paul and
Faulbrook you were saying that she you know, it's going
to keep producing there. So I've I've seen people who've
kept especially grafted tomatoes for three or four Oh yeah,

(01:05:54):
but they do diminish, you know, production over that period
of time.

Speaker 4 (01:05:59):
And they're hard to be you know, as they get
older because the way that the plant is structured.

Speaker 2 (01:06:05):
Right, they're so big, you got to cut them back.

Speaker 1 (01:06:07):
Break time. One more segment, that's all. It's it. One
more segment, So we'll take a break before I sneeze again.
For BIS Talk Radio Facebook Live. Brian Main, John Magnascar
Attack at Pola Fox here in Garden, America. Hey, welcome
to the second half of the show back after these messages. Hey,
we made it or made it back in the break
that is BIZ Talk Radio Facebook Live, and we have

(01:06:28):
some things to take care of. Her final segment before
we tidy up and say goodbye for the next couple
of weeks.

Speaker 2 (01:06:33):
You know, Carla mentioned and I just saw this and
it definitely has to be taken care of. She said
that when she was speaking with Greg Lowry, how they
got to talking about it, I don't know, but Carla
has a rose called Timothy Eaton, and Greg said that
might be one of the last ones in existence. And

(01:06:56):
I certainly don't have it. But Greg said that Carla
needs to get cuttings to me in the spring next year.
Please don't kill that rose, Carl.

Speaker 1 (01:07:07):
I would not want that. Response to Bill, Carla oh
Man that was in I would play hot potato with John,
should we.

Speaker 3 (01:07:12):
I would try a support system for her.

Speaker 1 (01:07:15):
I'd say, John here, I don't want to be responsible
for this.

Speaker 3 (01:07:17):
You take it.

Speaker 4 (01:07:18):
Call us if you're ever on vacation, Carla, and we
can help manage that while you're gone.

Speaker 1 (01:07:24):
Is that one you've been looking for.

Speaker 3 (01:07:27):
No, I I didn't know.

Speaker 1 (01:07:29):
You didn't know that it was No.

Speaker 2 (01:07:30):
I knew it existed, but I didn't really know much
about it. I mean, there's you know, ten thousand roses
or eighteen thousand varieties of roses, and that's just.

Speaker 1 (01:07:39):
In John's backyard.

Speaker 2 (01:07:42):
Well, my wife would probably think that they're all there.
But anyway, Yeah, I would definitely like it. But I
think I think what I would like cuttings would be
may because if I could get bud wood, I could
send it to Wisconsin and have it put on a
multi flora rootstock, and then they would ship me uh,

(01:08:04):
finished plants in the fall. So yeah, Carlo, we'll have
to keep in touch and think about doing that.

Speaker 3 (01:08:11):
Do you see Rick's question?

Speaker 2 (01:08:12):
He wants to know if a strawberry patch should be
shined out at the end of the season or let
them be shined.

Speaker 3 (01:08:22):
Have you ever heard that term.

Speaker 2 (01:08:23):
I don't think he means shined. I don't think he.

Speaker 3 (01:08:25):
Means I thought I didn't know something.

Speaker 2 (01:08:28):
Well, maybe it's a turn.

Speaker 3 (01:08:29):
I don't know. I don't know tour out.

Speaker 2 (01:08:32):
I think he needs thinned out. Yeah, at the end
of the season. But he lives in Idaho, you know,
I'm trying to think of what we did in Michigan.
And Michigan, I think we just let it be kind
to quote Paul McCartney, and and then you know, things

(01:08:55):
would die during the winter. Then during the spring before
the new growth started, would go through with the rake
and just run it through and it would pull out
anything that you know, rotted or had died. So it's
Idaho is a whole whole different growing area because.

Speaker 3 (01:09:11):
You've got.

Speaker 2 (01:09:13):
You know, you've got extreme temperatures, and then you've got water,
and you've got clay soils in some areas, soils that
drain in others. So it's a whole new experience learning
how to grow plants up there. But they would, you know,
I would check with people locally, Rick, but I think
one of the things I would do would be just
to leave it until spring, yeah, and then run a ray.

Speaker 4 (01:09:36):
So you know, I mean, they kind of do a
good job of managing themselves. And I kind of like
growing tomatoes or strawberries because.

Speaker 3 (01:09:43):
Of that reason.

Speaker 2 (01:09:44):
Sorry anything Paula said when she lived in New York,
they would mow them down.

Speaker 3 (01:09:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:09:50):
Yeah, the end of the season.

Speaker 4 (01:09:54):
Veronica wrote that many tomatoes I'm going to need a
bigger yard. She's going to take that challenge to the
next level of growing eight thousand roses.

Speaker 2 (01:10:04):
Good for you, Veronica, Oh you said tomatoes.

Speaker 3 (01:10:07):
I did. I did, But I meant strawberries.

Speaker 1 (01:10:10):
You meant strawberries, and you're talking about roads, run the
run the tape back, don't.

Speaker 2 (01:10:17):
I found a new way to get dizzy?

Speaker 4 (01:10:21):
Are you just picking up that I said tomatoes, and
then I said, no, I meant strawberries.

Speaker 2 (01:10:25):
For Rick's question, Yeah, okay, I thought you were talking
about roses.

Speaker 4 (01:10:30):
Oh wow, now we're wait, this is what happened to
when we throwing three subjects at ones three.

Speaker 1 (01:10:35):
Plant delay broadcasting out? But is there a delay here
in John, like a live delay?

Speaker 2 (01:10:41):
Well, did you not mention that Veronica said that many roses?
I'm going to need a bigger yard. Yes, in that
same sentence.

Speaker 4 (01:10:48):
As the strawberry thing and roses and tomatoes. Yes, I did.
All right, it was all I agree with you, John.
It was all very confusing, and I think it's wonderful
that you picked up up on that because that means
you listen to me, John.

Speaker 3 (01:11:02):
You hear me, hear me, Brian. Brian just agreed. He
just went with it.

Speaker 2 (01:11:09):
Brian's one of the most agreeable people I know.

Speaker 1 (01:11:11):
Yeah, I think I don't agree with that. I don't
agree with that.

Speaker 2 (01:11:17):
I disagree with that.

Speaker 3 (01:11:18):
I disagree with.

Speaker 1 (01:11:18):
Whole line here, all right, I do listen, I do,
I take it back.

Speaker 3 (01:11:23):
I do.

Speaker 1 (01:11:24):
I can harken back. I can't tell you the particular show,
but if John has said something prolific that sticks with me,
I will go back and I'll bring it up. And
sometimes you'll say.

Speaker 2 (01:11:32):
You're very perceptive.

Speaker 1 (01:11:34):
I try to be. Yeah, I'm very detailed orient. I
can I can come back next week and if that no,
it's not a medicine ball, is it? What is that
you sit on?

Speaker 3 (01:11:44):
Yeah, like a yoga ball or Okay, if.

Speaker 1 (01:11:46):
That's not there next week, I would notice that. Yeah,
let's say what happened to the yoga medicine ball thing.

Speaker 2 (01:11:53):
Some people don't get say that that's detail orient and
they say it's obsessive compulsive. Yeah, yeah, which we've discussed
before because we're we're both a little bit like that. Absolutely,
and I I think we've discussed putting jelly on toast
and how you have to make sure when you do

(01:12:14):
it that you get all the corners, and so Brian
was saying that he was like me, and I told
you how I drink my coffee and how I have
to line up because I'm not that much.

Speaker 3 (01:12:31):
You're crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:12:32):
Yeah, when you put the cap on the coffee, I've
got to have the little hole facing the front of
the big printing on the cuff so that everything aligns.

Speaker 3 (01:12:42):
You straight?

Speaker 1 (01:12:43):
Do you straighten pictures out on walls?

Speaker 3 (01:12:45):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:12:45):
Yeah, you know, But I think it's because I used
to work in construction and my dad used to call
it having a cement man's eye. Everything was level and
one of my jobs was also looking through a transit
and uh like a surveyor as a surveyor, but guiding people,

(01:13:09):
uh with backos and machinery, you know, leveling.

Speaker 1 (01:13:13):
There's a joke. There's a joke there somewhere. But fortunately
we have one minute to say our goodbyes.

Speaker 4 (01:13:18):
All right, So no show, no show next week, but
we're back to following but we are back the following week.

Speaker 3 (01:13:24):
We might be back with a new format.

Speaker 1 (01:13:26):
Yeah. Now we might be back on a YouTube format.

Speaker 3 (01:13:30):
Yeah live.

Speaker 4 (01:13:31):
So there'll be a link on our Facebook Live that's
going to take you to a YouTube page which would
then show and.

Speaker 1 (01:13:39):
You can do questions comments the same thing. Yes, it
runs up and down, works the same way Facebook desk,
maybe a little better.

Speaker 2 (01:13:45):
Yeah, and if it does work well, we should mention
it in the newsletter too.

Speaker 1 (01:13:50):
Yes, okay, we got to get out of here and
stay on time. Thank you for joining us, So back
in two weeks from Tiger's House. I'm Brian Maine, John
BEGNSCO Tiger Pella Fox. If a safe rest of your weekend,
a safe weekend, We'll do it again in two weeks
right here on Guard in America. Take care,
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