April 25, 2026 • 48 mins
Ian Furness and Rob Rang are joined by Gregg Bell to discuss the draft. Then the Seahawks draft up to take Beau Stephens in the 5th round and we hear from the guard in his interview with the press.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
All right, we're back for Ginia Mason Athletics Center. Our
final hour, at least my final hour here.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Yeah, thanks man, Sorry about that.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Didn't mean to hit you on that one, but yeah,
and then we'll turn it over. Chuck pal is going
to be jumping on here at high noon today we
have it does.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Look at that like, is there a there's a.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Love affair going on with the San Francisco forty nine
ers the University of Washington that appears Rob rang What
have we got going on here?
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Yeah, Fijian Price soak the corner. Me it's Caro Davis
got a lot of the attention. But this is another
six foot four, two hundred pound corner that at the
forty and hours obviously are are very intrigued by making
him their selection here in the late portion of the
fourth round. Earlier, as you kind of referred to there, Ian,
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they had made another University of Washington product.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Parker Willis. They left tackle Carver Wills.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Excuse me, they left Tackle their selection earlier in the
fourth round as.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Well, only just because it's the final pick of round
numbnumber four and the international fans are making these picks
for the respective teams and the Bengals will make the
final pick here of round four, and we'll hit into
round five, and that leads us into the final round
before the Seahawks get active again. They'll have two picks
in round number six, so Colby Young, a wide receiver
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from Georgia, is the final pick of round four. So
round four is in the books. Round five will begin
here momentarily twenty and twenty six NFL Draft. Seahawks again
do not pick again until early in round six. They're
projecting that to be a little bit after high noon,
although maybe a little bit low later than that. We'll
wait and see Greg Bell to come, a new distribute
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Seahawk beat writer and now of course the host ten
to twelve with Christopher Kidd, the Greg Bell Show here
on Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM, is sitting
down and rolling in and getting ready for this is
I don't know how you approach this. This is like
rang here. He'll know every player drafting, so it's a
little different for him for.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
The rest of us. I don't know how you approached it.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
First of all, that we're not used to this like
waiting until I mean, obviously twenty twenty one was different.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
But we weren't here.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
We were we were all locked out, so that wasn't
We weren't part of the process here. Usually we get
here on a Saturday morning for a Round three or
day three in Round four, dreg and grab a coffee,
maybe a quick bite to eat, and it's in the boom.
It's a flurry of activity. That's not the case this year.
Very different for John Schneider.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
Ye, he's walking around, yeah, shaking, yeah, yeah. I'm seeing
him more this year than I've ever seen him in
a draft. The one constant about the third day of
every draft is it is the most beautiful day of
the spring. Every year, the third day.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
I didn't think about that. You're right hold up.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
In here inside and looking through the glass panes of
Lake Washington. It's always the most brilliant day yet of
the spring, which it is against today here and the
Pacific Gord the rest. It is a challenge for John
Schneider to have the discipline. It's pretty easy, though, to
have the discipline to not tap into next year's haul
of draft picks. He has t twelve picks and what
they consider a much stronger draft next year in depth
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and quality and so that's the only chips they really
other than players, and why would you trade players off
a Super Bowl champion team other than that they have
no weapons to trade up with. They did move make
the move three spots back last night to get an
extra six round pick today, which is why they have
two instead of one. So Thevin end the draft with five.
But this was by designer. I'm sure you guys have
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talked about. They knew coming into this year this was
a thinner, weaker, shallower talent pool draft, and so they
traded two third day picks to get rashid Hi in
the middle of season. They traded picks at the last
offseason in this draft, and that's why they only have five.
It's tied for the fewest in the league.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
For people just tuning in, rob Rang We've discussed this,
but it's probably worth reiterating. If you were just today
sitting here on April the twenty fifth, and saying, Okay,
this year's Day three versus what potentially Day three could
look like next year?
Speaker 2 (03:59):
How different is it?
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Day three next year is just gonna basically be like
the second and third rounds I believe of this year.
You know it's there is just the high end talent
that is likely to be available next year, and it's
just gonna be a remarkable class. I mean, everybody's gonna
focus on the quarterbacks, of course, but uh, you know
Arch Manning or Dante More or whoever. The wide receiver
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Jeremiah Smith from Ohouse State that would have been the
first player, the first receiver off the board this year
instead of Kaylen Downs excuse me, instead of uh, Cardiel Tate,
you know, another Ohio State receiver. You know inst that
the pipeline at Ohio State is just remarkable. But anyways,
it's the depth of next year that also looks really
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really good. Now, of course, who remains to be seeing
if we're going to see a lot of the you know,
players are going to take advantage and i L opportunities
and you know, maybe they'll return to college. But what
it looks like next year does look remarkable, and you
understand why John Schneider and the Seahawks would be really
hesitant to trade off this the abundance of selections that
they have next year to get back into this class
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that frankly, just at this point there are players that
can help you, but are they going to be able
to help you long enough for the long term future
of this club to justify making that kind of a move.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
The other reason, guys, is they don't have a ton
of holes off a team that just won the Super Bowl.
They have ten of eleven starters coming back on offense
minus Kenneth Walker leaving to the Chiefs, and they have
basically the entire starting defense coming back if you count
the Josh job was starting over Riek on one, although
woman got three fourths of the snaps on a rotation basis,
and then the few departures they had they have filled.
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It's a one for one need in this draft. Kobe
Bryant leaves, they get a safety Greek wool And leaves,
they get a corner Kenneth Walker leaves, they have a
new lead running back in the first round. Very utilitarian
draft for the Seahawks and for the very few needs
they have now you could argue that they need interior
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offensive line depth and potentially a future starter because Anthony
Bradford lightning rod here in the region and the coaches
say they love his play, but his contract ends after
this year. So there are other moves they but probably
would have made if they had the luxury of doing it.
I wouldn't count on a six round draft pick being
an opportunity to start for Anthony Bradford at right guard,
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even if they go guard.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
No, I mean, and I think what you said there
and Rob as well, it's it's if you just kind
of look at what they lost, so ten of eleven
starters on offense return, Well, you could make the argument
now that you've replaced that starter with your first round
pick you have, And in fact, I don't think you'd
even make an argument.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
You would just say they did. It's as simple as that.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
So that that takes place, and then you know, on
top of that, you go defense and you lose a
couple of defensive backs. You've drafted a couple of defensive
backs on day two, you replace that as well. The
one place you haven't replaced anybody's boy in mafe so
depth at the age rusher. So does that get us
to where they know they still probably And again you're
talking about a six round pick, and we'll get to
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Rob with the thoughts of the second. But Greg, that's
still kind of the one little hole they have right
as replacing boy in Mafey.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
It is, although if you look at Mafey's productivity. He
wasn't even a three down linebacker by the end of
his time here. They couldn't count on him to rush
the passer, so they often blitzed out of nickel and
dime and took Mafey off the field. And in fact,
the Marcus Lawrence and Derek Hall were their edge rushers,
and Lawrence was a de facto outside linebacker when they
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went nickel or dime, so Mooy and Mafey wasn't even
in the factor of pass rush. Yet the Bengals gave
him twenty million dollars a year. They do need depth
and Mike McDonald ed rusher, and Mike McDonald doesn't have
enough of those. I think the board came out late
Thursday night and the Friday second and third rounds to
the point that they were a couple guys on there
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they probably would have taken Malachi. Lawrence went higher than
some people thought, although a lot of people thought because
it's physical physical traits, that he would go mid first round.
But the Seahawks are probably looking at potentially picking him
at thirty two guys. I said this Thursday night. I
wrote it the News Tribune. They won a jendarium price
in the second round after trading down to get a
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fourth round pick. If you trade down a first round pick,
you're gonna get a high fourth They still could have
gotten price, I believe, And then I think they believe
mid second round, but because of the flurry of trades
right in front of them, they didn't have any trade
partners left. They had to pick at thirty two, and
then they did the calculus of Okay, would price be
available on our next pick at sixty four because we
didn't get the trade down, and their calculus was no,
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And that's why they took price at thirty two.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Well, and two things there. For one, as you said, Greg,
I think that the Seahawks basically thought that they had
a trade in place. They did, you know, to move
down in the second round still be able to take
price get that fourth round selectually. I thought it was
interesting yesterday when John Scheier and Mike mcgald are out
here talked to the media that that Schneider kind of
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went out of his way to thank the Pittsburgh Steelers
for making the trade and sticking with their the agreement.
So clearly Seattle thought that they had a trade in
place here The other thing is as far as the
edge rusher, I've been you know, pounding the table for
this idea of finding that replacement for Boye Mafe. I
think the free agent visit of you know, now I've
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lost his name here, Dante Fowl. Dante Fowler, excuse me,
the veteran Now, while he is not, you know, a
future ten plus sac kind of a guy, the way
that maybe one of these Day three selections could ultimately
be he is plugg in play, ready to go prove
an NFL pass rusher who is a you know, kind
of a pass us specialist. And so maybe they are
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thinking that they don't have to necessarily go with a
raw pass rusher that might be available in the sixth
round when they already have a veteran who adender Day
is going to know very well because they had previously
coached him, that might be able to kind of just
be able to to allow them the ultimate flexibility to
take the best player available here in the sixth round.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
They the way the Seahawks right out their roster for us,
the positional roster, there's fourteen linebackers listed there. Now among
those fourteen, h six of those would I believe are
what we call it inside linebackers. Off the ball linebackers
think in terms of Ernest Jones, Junior Drake Thomas, that
type of player, Tyres Night and others. DeMarcus Lawrence coming
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back for year thirteen, I think that must be a
pretty safe assumption on their part that he's coming back.
They haven't one hundred percent set up, but they obviously
feel that way.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
Mike McDonald's said that he'd been told by Lawrence, Yeah, he's.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Be surprised that he's did.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Derek halluos, who's probably healthier than he's been in a
long time in an offseason, right, I mean, I don't
think he's ever had an offseason here that he's been healthy, right, No, yeah, yes,
I mean and so in Wh's And here's the thing
with Nuoso, I think we all think of him as
an old man. He's only twenty nine, right like that,
Like that's not like he's got some probably some tread
left on the tires. And then you got Derek Hall,
who's going in the final year of his contract, his
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fourth year, a fourth year player as well. Is there
another guy greg on this roster right now?
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Would it be a Jared Ivy or somebody that could
take that next step that replaces Boyam.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
Off A Jared Ivy's one that comes to mind. They
liked him in training camp last year as an undrafted rookie,
and then they kept him on the roster the entire
season when they were doing practice squad roulette with everybody else,
I mean every other rookie, including some draft picks.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Which tells you there was probably they were worried about.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
Interesting, absolutely were worried about somebody plucking him off a
practice squad onto an active roster. So we noticed. It
was very noticeable that he stayed on the active roster
without playing a lot. I don't think he played any
defensive snaps, played a couple of special team snaps, and
wasn't docted for merriment a game. Yeah, if any, So,
there is a plan for them longer term. I say
this a lot and write this a lot. The draft
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problem knows this morning, anybody. The draft is not for
this year. The draft is for two, three, four years
down the road. What's your roster projection is because of
the fact that draft picks get four year contracts and
a Dante Fowler would be a shorter term plug and play,
as Rob called it. But they're to your pointing and
they still don't have a two to three year shorter
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term solution at edge rusher. They have a choice to
make on Derek Hall. If they were the problem with
second contracts, it's they're very expensive in the NFL for
edge rushers, So they do have a decision to make
with Derek Hall. They obviously made a decision with Boy
Maffitt that they didn't want to get into that money.
So it was somewhat surprising that they haven't chosen an
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EDG resher by now, someone in the top three rounds
that perhaps could be a four year option, because they
don't have a lot of those at EDG Dresser right now.
You don't. You can't expect DeMarcus Lawrence will come back
for a third season of his contracted balloons at the
end and it'll be thirty five years old next year.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
I'm gonna this is this is where we test him. Oh,
if we go back in a year's time, do you
do what do you remember from from a Jared Ivy
who will be a second year undrafted free agent last
year from Mississippi.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Yeah, I mean he he's a much better athlete than
you would expect for guys sixty six two and seven
five pounds. I mean, so if he is going to
be playing that edge rusher role rather than a traditional
defensive lineman, that that is going to be something that's different.
But at the same time, again, because he has athletics
and athleticism, then I do think that he can play
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that role. The other player that maybe wasn't constantly on
the roster as Greg just talked about with Jared Ivy,
but was also a player that Mike think Dolland talked
about he is going to have an opportunity here for
meaningful snaps is Conor O'Toole from Utah and he is
a player that struggled a little bit with durability at Utah,
But my goodness, does he have some twitch to him.
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He also has some lateral agility us his hands. Well,
there's some real traits with him. If he were available
in this drafting, he would have been selected by now.
But the fact that he was in last year's class,
which was much better at least in my opinion, and
had the durability issues, that's the reason why that he
wound up being undrafted free agent, but made this roster
in the first place. I mean, he wasn't one of
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the guys guys on the just on the practice squad.
He made the roster and so that's that's a pretty
unusual thing for a team that obviously won the Super
Bowl a year ago.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
Mike McDonald has mentioned Connor o'toolas someone he's looking forward
to taking that next step you talked about, and at
a position they need someone to for sure.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
He also mentioned in the name there's a couple of
names in the safety room that that we've talked.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
We've talked about AJ Finley a little bit. Yep uh.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
The other guy that he Mike McDonald and prompted brought
up Rodney Thomas the second last.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
Night, who but the coaches are very high on him.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Comes over from Indianapolis, right.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
Right, free agent last month from Indianapolis. Was it starting
safety for Indianapolis two seasons ago and then he had
penalty troubles, a lot of past interference troubles and he
benched him and they was primarily a special teams player
last year, which is the reason the Colts, but his
contract expired.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
So they they brought him Like those are one of
the every now and then there's that under the radar
signing that right, but a guy that they're looking at
as well. And aj Finley's got good size, six to
two and over two hundred pounds. I know they're looking
for him. He was kind of he played with fifty
five snaps last season. I think it was not a lot.
Was banged up a little bit of a start.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
That started training camp.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Yeah, but that's another guy they like in the safety room.
I mean there's like Rob just said, and you mentioned
it too, like there's guys that they do find a
way to kind of hide, develop and look forward to.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
And Mike McDonalds talked about him publicly, and some of
their scouts have also talked about, you know, Rodney Thomas
the second as a guy that they feel like he is,
you know, a little bit of a diamond, the rough
kind of a guy because the fact that you know
he was benched, as Greg mentioned, but at the same time,
they feel like in their system that he could be
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an impact player for them. And again, if we're going
to have the safety conversation, I got to go back
to the selection that they made here, you know, with
Bud Clark, I just was just shocked when I watched
his tape. But just how many times he got his
hands on footballs. I would like it they talked about that.
You know, he had fifteen career inceptions, probably should have
had twice as many based on how how many times
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the guy's hand on the football. But again, when you
consider all the talent that this team has, uh, you know,
I just really think that the safety position is one
that maybe on paper doesn't look quite as good because,
with all due respect to Kobe Bryant, I mean, you
lost a good player. But at the same time, I
think that they feel pretty darn good. They're gonna be
just fine and safety.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
The point is, it's not even though Tylecotta played a
lot last year, especially with Julian Love being out for
a few months with a hamstring. It's not just Tylecotta
is walking into that job the pick yesterday from Clark
Rodney Thomas. There's gonna be competition there. Who see who
wins that job. Rodney Thomas is smart. How smart? He's
a quantitative science degree holder from Yale.
Speaker 5 (16:41):
He knows more, but he probably knows more about the
analytics and the analytics staff here to see how God. So, yeah,
Mike McDonald knows what he's doing John Snyder's and player acquisition,
but McDonald knows what type of player he wants on
his defense.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Well, you know, we're this is such about the amateur
scouts right this these three days, but I think it's
probably a good time to kind of toss out some
kudos to what they do on the pro personnel side
as well. And you know, whether it be we'll see
what a Rodney Thomas does along the way. I don't
think there's any better example than what Drake Thomas has
been to this football team or Josh Job, like two
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guys cast aside by other NFL teams. Yes, and now,
I mean Drake Thomas was cut by the Raiders and
it's an instrumental on a Super Bowl team. That's how
they undug him, Like you get cut by the Raiders.
That's like, that's like getting fired from radio and tri Cities.
Trust me, I know, like seriously, And all of a sudden,
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Drake Thomas is looking down and go, yeah, man, I'm
five to eleven, I'm two twenty eight. All I know
is I started and started in the Super Bowl and
have a ring exactly like they found a dude there.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
If he hasn't, if he doesn't intercept that pass off
McCaffrey's hands, who knows what we eight team was like, Yeah,
it was.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
A thirteen to ten game in the fourth quarter. If
he doesn't make that yet, and then job job jail
rolls in here. He also got released elsewhere so.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
And is now making eight million dollars a year. The
other thing that the pro player scouts for the Seahawks
have a really big hand in this weekend is the
the They have two draft boards. As we know, they
have their draft board, but the NFL Draft board that
what they predict the other teams are gonna do. The
connections that the pro stouts do. They have nailed that
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NFL board for years. It's told them when guys are
gonna go, who's gonna take what needs are trades? It's
it's lining them to make so many trades inside the
draft because of their connections around the league. That's a
real underrated reason for the success of Seahawks drafts.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Real quick, Rob I was gonna actually mention something as well.
That would be Parker Brailsford was just drafted by the
Cleveland Browns. If that's a name that sounds familiar. It
should former Washington Center. He goes all the way in
the fifth round. I'm assuming you're not surprised. I'm only
gonna say I'm a little surprised. From this standpoint is
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when he left Washington, the star was rising, right. What
happened with this guy? I thought he would be a high,
high draft pick.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
Well, frankly because he stopped growing. I mean he's six
foot and he's three hundred pounds roughly, you know, and
so he's just.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
And I just I listen, this is where this is where,
this is where we just why do we try to
assume what John Schnyder is gonna do.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
They're on the clock.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Interesting, all right, what traded up?
Speaker 6 (19:34):
Why don't know?
Speaker 4 (19:34):
They would have had to tap.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
In the next year, but they would have had to
tap it. They are on the clock. They will take
the eighth pick, rub get after it.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Give me some names. They are going to take the
commander's pick. Is in Uh, they just took Nick Barrett.
I do believe offense or a defensive tackle?
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Right, So.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
One forty eighth pick eight eighth in this round, one
forty eighth and Jess, do you have a draft or
a trade force.
Speaker 7 (20:03):
Do you have the don't have the details quite yet,
but you are indeed right It as the one hundred
and forty eighth overall pick, eighth in this fifth round
as we stand right now when they're on the clock.
Obviously we'll have to wait what the commanders do with
the seventh pick in the fifth round, but that is
where we're looking at. I'll get you the details.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Where go, All right, Rob, what are we looking at?
Speaker 4 (20:24):
Well?
Speaker 3 (20:25):
For me personally, in my top rd prospects are a
couple of cornerbacks and Keith ab Me, the second and
channel of the rivers. I projected both of them to
be candidates for Seattle as early as the third round.
They're both just sawed off guys in that five to
nine range, but they just play with the tenacity that
I prioritize at the corner back spot, so to me,
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they would be interesting prospects. At the same time, I
also think that other positions of you know, kind of
interest for the Seahawks might be those edge rushers. Joshua
Joseph's from Tennessee. He has that burst that you're looking for.
Mason Rager from Wisconsin as a player that I personally
am higher on than a lot of people seem to be.
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And then Keishawn James Newby to me is one of
the twitchiest edge rushers of this class. I talked about
him before. He's a true sleeper. This is the guy
that is New Mexico, previously at Idaho, but his initial
burst is as good of any edge rusher outside of
the you know, cross early first round selection. So to me,
Joshua Joseph's from Tennessee, Keishawn James Newby our edge rushers
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that I think are really intriguing. And then as far
as cornerbacks, you know again, Keith Abney and Chandler Rivers
are two guys that make an awful lot of sense.
Speaker 7 (21:42):
All right, Jesse, we do have a couple of details.
So what the Seahawks did give up was a twenty
twenty seven to fourth round pick to trade up to
number one forty eight in this year's draft.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
In the fourth round, the fourth round next year, the
fourth round next year. Yeah, so they did tap into
next year's Yeah. So now go down to eleven.
Speaker 7 (22:00):
And that is officially from the Seahawks, so it's not
just rumors out there. So I got that on the right.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
Yes, just got that so fourth round pick this year
next year for a fifth round pick this year. So
I mean it's just they got something else, right, they
must have got something else.
Speaker 7 (22:17):
That is the only detail that we were given so far.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
That's a that's a that's a boy, there's somebody there
that we love trade if that's the case, because that's
the value, isn't there.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
Well it's not, but it's you know the fact that
you were getting a pick right now, and so you're
you're the you know, you're the team that is probably
initiated this con this move. You know, you you called
up to make this selection. So, like you said, he
and there's gotta be somebody there that they are surprised
is still available. And they thought that was you know,
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probably should have been off the board at least ten
twenty thirty picks earlier.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
John Schneider's wandering the halls an hour and a half ago,
thinking he's gonna be bored, and all of a sudden
walked in there and said, wait a second, there's.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
This guy still available.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
That has to be what happened, right like and it's
and all of a sudden, then the arm is amped up.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
The alarm.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
The alarm bells go off, and you're like, Okay, our
dude is there, and they're a commercial break for TV.
So we got to wait just a second for the
pick to be announced. But the Seahawks, the commander's pick
will be announced first and the Seahawks after that. So
as it stands right now, unless we get other details
giving up a fourth round or now let's go back.
Speaker 4 (23:25):
So they trade it with the Browns, right right.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Joshua Joseph goes to the commanders with the pick before Seattle.
He's the edge rusher from Tennessee I just mentioned, yeah,
and you take him off that board that Rob just
talked about. So the Seahawks pick will be coming in
here in just a second. I don't think it'll be
announced on television, so we'll just kind of as soon
as it pops up, we'll let you know who it is.
But guys, that's I think it goes back to the
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surplus of draft picks they have next year. You just
talked about Rob twelve picks next year. Greg, you said
this a bunch of times on your show this week.
There's not twelve guys in next year's draft, making this
ball team exactly right, Like that's that's that's the that's
the that's the thing, Like, there's the way this team
is structured right now. And yes, expiring contracts, free agency happens,
but there's no chance all twelve guys next year if
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you were to have truly twelve the draft picks, which
I think would equal the most they've ever had right
under John Schneider. Yes, I believe right, Yeah, it's eleven
or twelve. Those guys aren't all making the football team,
so you might as well. If you see somebody, I'm
just I'm fascinated. I can't wait to see who it
is and get Rob's thoughts on it, because this is
a guy that this is obviously.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Something that they decided they have to go get.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
And and he's there, whoever it is, and as you mentioned, Rob,
he probably slipped whoever this is twenty thirty spots whatever
it might be, and he's sitting there and they're like,
we get We're gonna go get him right now.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
Well, and I mentioned, you know, my personal highest ranked
players again, a couple of corners I liked, you know.
I then mentioned Keith Abnuey, mentioned Chandler Rivers. Those are
more guys I like, but aren't necessarily the players that
the Seattle has kind of prioritized. Jalen Kilgore, or is
a defensive back the South Carolina who has the versatility
that the Mike McDonald and the Seahawks the prioritize.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Right, they're gonna flash it up right now, the Seahawks
selection at one forty eight overall eighth pick in the
fifth round is they're typing it into the graphics right now.
Maybe one of those guys that's playing in Europe or
something they have no idea with.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Who knows?
Speaker 4 (25:20):
You do know?
Speaker 2 (25:21):
The pick is in.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Indeed, the pick is in, and the selection should be
popping up here any second now, waiting to see who
indeed the Seahawks get with this selection.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
And then we'll hear from him, by the way, in just.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
A couple of seconds, as they'll make that phone call
and we'll get the conference call.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
So you hear from the newest Seahawks. And I've never
seen us have to wait so long for a fifth
round pick.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
There's gonna be Reguard there, pos Stevens, Post Stevens, all right,
all right, Rob fire Away Os.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
Stevens, Yeah, Bos Stevens. Again, it is kind of that
perfect schematic fit that we've been kind of talking about,
you know we mentioned before. I mean, Iowa is a
program that turns out prospects, you know, left and right
is a Boa Stevens. The guard from Iowa is Seattle selection.
Here they trade up to get him, just his agility,
the pro readiness for those Seahawk fans out there that
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have been looking for somebody to push Anthony Bradford the
right guard position, Hugh Millan, I hope you're listening, buddy.
They just got somebody that is going to be pushing
Anthony Bradford at that right guard spot in Boas Stevens.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
First team All American last season from Iowa. Rob, Why
does he slip to fifth round? And where do you
think he was projected to go? Because again I'll go back,
there's just a sometimes we use, and I know this
is a really weird term in sports media and sports radio,
if we use a little bit of common sense. They
went and got a guy that they feel like he slipped.
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Why did you slip? And where do you think he
slipped from?
Speaker 3 (26:45):
Well, I don't know that he necessarily slipped. I think
this is about where he should have gone. I mean, well,
maybe fourth round, but I just think that again, this
is a plug and play kind of a candidate here.
I mean, this isn't a project. You know that this
is a player that can compete immediately and he also
has athletic potential. This is not a to me. The
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offensive line group was starting to thin out pretty good,
and I just see a guy who has legitimate size,
who has legitimate at the athletic ability that fits in
beautifully within John Benton's system. And it also is again
coming from a system that turns out NFL prospects all
day long. I think that they probably had the third
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to fourth round great on him, and the fact that
he is here in the top of the fifth round,
that's all. That's what it makes a great value selection.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Well, Greg, we've heard time and time again from people
not named media fans or others, mostly Seahawks people McDonald,
Schneid or whoever, Yeah, we like Anthony Bradford. They went
and got a guy that can compete with Anthony Bradford.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
Well, as I mentioned, Bradford's contract ends after this year,
so they would have a decision to make regardless that
they loved him, or not. The other thing, guys, is
this is an indictment on Christian Haynes. Yeah, he's had
very much three different chances to win this job in
training a rookie training camp during the season, and then
last year in training camp, and no they haven't yet.
Well what Timmy has been tried at that right guard position.
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It's an indictment on him. If you're drafting an All
American and traded to get into that round, and you
traded a lower round pick next year to get into it,
Stevens is going to get a run. Maybe not this year,
but they I think they probably pencil him as a
campile and it gives you some death at the guard position,
right because I don't think you really because you just
said it.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
I mean, Christian Haines is you're kind of one of
your deaf pieces.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
He has not like the third round pick that has
been given every opportunity in the world.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
They were using Bryce cable Doo, a tackle from Kansas
as a guard last year and practices by the end
of the season as potentially to back up there. So yeah,
they were obviously not satisfied with what they had on
shelf of guard.
Speaker 6 (28:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
I just think that. You know, again, one of the
things that I am so intrigued by with this selection
is just the position of versatility left and right guard.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
His size.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
I mean, he's sixty five, he's three hundred and twenty
five pounds, So this is not, you know, he big
man exactly. That's the thing with Anthony Bradford. I think
one of the reasons that Seattle felt more comfortable with
him than perhaps some fans were is the fact that
he is a big man. You know, he's also sixty five,
three hundred and thirty pounds and you know, some of
the biggest, strongest defensive tackles that Seattle faced this past season.
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I'm specifically thinking, for example, of Jeffrey Simmons for the
Tennessee Titans, and then that was a much closer game
than perhaps you know, the betters out there and some
fans thought it would be when Seattle went and played
the Titans. I think a big part of that was
because the fact that Tennessee had a defensive front that
could get after the quarterback a little bit and clog
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up those running lanes. That, to me, is one of
the things that Anthony Bradford could do. He could handle
the big guys. He struggled with the quicker guys. Boast
evens has the athleticism to be able to handle those
quicker guys, but he also has the power to be
able to create some push against the bigger men as well.
And then going back to Christian Haynes for a moment,
I mean, I was one of those who was very,
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very high on Christian Haynes, and when he has struggled,
I kind of reviewed my notes on him just to
kind of, you know, remind myself why was he available
in the third round? And what I see, what I
saw on tape back at Yukon is a guy that
could make the splashy block, but sometimes would struggle with
just consistency. And when you have an offensive line coach
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like John Benton, consistency is really one of the things
that you are prioritizing. And so Anthony Bradford of course
struggled with consistency himself, but at the same time, not
the way the Christian Haynes has.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
We're waiting for both Stevens to call in. We'll take
that conference call the speakerphone here in just a couple
of seconds and hear from the newest Seahawks. So again,
if you're just joining us. The Seahawks have now drafted
four players this year. Jadarian Price, running back in the
first round on Thursday from Notre Dame. Bud Clark of
safety from TCU yesterday in the second round, thirty second
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pick in the second round, Julian Neal, a cornerback from
Arkansas yesterday, also a Day two pick that was the
thirty fifth pick, the second and last pick of round three.
He's a corner. And then today Bo Stevens, the Seahawks
again have made a trade. They have moved up in
the draft. They trade a fourth round pick from next
season twenty twenty seven to the Cleveland Browns and they
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pick up Bo Stevens, a guard out of Iowa All
American last season as well, and they pick him up.
So now five draft picks for Seattle. As it stands,
they could end up with five, six seven picks when
it's all said and done.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
Go ahead, Greg, let me ask you this.
Speaker 4 (31:37):
Rob collegians that played left guard, he started two years
at left guard in one year his twenty twenty two
season as right guard. Is that a big deal for
college prospects?
Speaker 3 (31:48):
Well, I think typically you want your better athletes on
the left side, and so I think that that's one
of the reasons that's that much more intriguing about both Stevens. Jennings.
Dunker was the right guard this past season four of them,
and he went earlier to the Pittsburgh Steelers. And so
again it's just Iowa, uh, you know, their ability to
you know, project guys to the next level is just unbelievable,
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and so again I think that would be one of
the reasons why they're interested Paul.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
Stevens calling in. What's head up to the podium and
check in with Poth Stevens right now? Hey, how's it
going on this?
Speaker 8 (32:21):
Chris White anam with the Seahawks.
Speaker 4 (32:22):
Man, I got the media here and they're gonna fire
for a few questions for you.
Speaker 6 (32:26):
Okay, all right, gotcha?
Speaker 1 (32:33):
What was your addition actually being picked by the Seahawks
And obviously they made that quick trade.
Speaker 6 (32:37):
To move up and get you. Oh yeah, you know,
it's gonna be nice to stay a Hawk. You know.
I got my boy Mason Richmond up there, and my
visit down there was awesome. I loves Coach Benson and
it was just a cool place and I knew it
was gonna be a right fit for me.
Speaker 4 (32:58):
What makes it the right fit for you?
Speaker 8 (33:00):
Obviously, the zone blocking is a big part of the
offense here.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
But what makes this the right fit for you coming
to the room.
Speaker 6 (33:07):
Yeah, no, obviously, I think it's his zone blocking, and
you know, just having another guy there as well from
Iowa to kind of show me the ropes right away
is just gonna be awesome. And I couldn't ask for
anything more, honestly.
Speaker 4 (33:21):
So, how tight are you with Mason Richmond is? Once
he told you about the Seahawks culture?
Speaker 6 (33:29):
Yeah, so ever since he went to the NFL, it's
not it's kind of been off and on. He's busy
most of the year, so I haven't been able to
hear from all that often. But when he was back
down training in Iowa City, he was just telling me
how cool it was and how coach how cool Coach
Benson was, and uh, you know, it's just you know,
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like we're gonna be friends for life, you know. So
it's just awesome to have a guy that's gonna be
there at my wedding this summer and to have him around,
you know. Sure, he's kind of big brother for me.
In college So what day do you get married? July fourth?
This summer. Thanks for fans who haven't watched a lot
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of Iowa football. What kind of player of the Seahawks
getting you know you're gonna get them all in the
run game, technical in the past, game love loved going
to hit. I'm not one to shy away from contact
for sure, but just more of that more more, more overall,
just a professional like person, you know, a person that
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takes things seriously and a guy that's from Iowa who's
always considering an underdog. You know, always has a chip
on his shoulder. There's no the Hayes, never in the barn,
is what coach Barents says. That's just the kind of
mentality Iowa culture has and what I've kind of embodied.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
What is it about that program that produces so many
good offensive linements?
Speaker 6 (35:00):
You know, when you have a head coach that is
so invested in the offensive line, that's where he coached
before as a position coach, and that's what he honestly
loves the most doing. There's no other way than going up.
You know. Also, just having the emphasis on offensive line
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at Iowa being such a big crucial part like most
of the times, it was just us trying to put
the game on our shoulders, you know, and trying to
make it so that we controlled the game and we
didn't have to put it in the hands of somebody
else to make crazy play. It was just us doing
this the daily things, the daily rituals, the daily drills,
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and making sure they were as fundamentally as fundamental as possible.
You know, what did you.
Speaker 4 (35:48):
Like about what you heard from John Benton?
Speaker 6 (35:53):
You know, he he just seems like he's one of
those person coaches, you know, one of those guys that
just and just see a number on your chest, and
he actually cares about you and cares about who you
are as a person, and he cares about your success
not just on the field, but also off the field.
Speaker 4 (36:09):
So well, you played left guard the block couple years
you played right guard a few years back.
Speaker 6 (36:16):
Do you have any preference on side? No. I think
it's just preference in blocks. Honestly, if I'm on one side,
I have a preference for like, uh, like, if I'm
on the west side, I have a preference for like
backside blocks, and then I'm on the right side, I
have a preference for like front side blocks. But otherwise,
like overall, it's not too much of a difference because
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I've been able to play both and rip at both.
So wherever they put me, you know, it's just going
to take a little bit of time just to be
set and then it's going to be uh, full full
speed ahead.
Speaker 4 (36:49):
After that, John Ventner, the Seahawks mentioned what side did
start you on?
Speaker 6 (36:55):
They have not? Now have you.
Speaker 5 (36:59):
Watched on Price playing all in college and looking forward
to maybe creating the whole prat.
Speaker 6 (37:07):
I'm not going to watch football too often outside of
this film, so I'm watching this entire draft and curing
a lot of names I've never heard before, I never
watched before. So I helped to hope we make a
good relationship with him and hopefully he trusts whatever side
I'm on tries to just run it right behind me.
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You know.
Speaker 8 (37:27):
But what were your thoughts on the city of Seattle.
I'm assumed that was your first time and you get
to come out here for your official visit.
Speaker 6 (37:36):
Yeah, that was the first time, you know, It's just
pretty It was something my fiance the place my always
wanted a visit too. She even asked to come up
with my third visit, and I was like, no, no, no,
this is the business trip. But no, she's happy, for sure,
she's she's going to be glad to be able to
be around that area. And I just just showed her
a bunch of pictures that I took around the facility,
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and yeah, it's just it's absolutely beautiful. I'm there so
breaking opponent's will to play, doesn't want to stay in
his gap, make the linebackers have to make a play,
you know. It's it's it's making it so that guy
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that wants to put his eyes down and not really
care about where the ball is at. It's just, uh,
I don't want to get killed by this person across
from me.
Speaker 4 (38:26):
So you've talked at IOWA about your ADHD and your
journey through that. What did you do to get what
was the key to getting through that? What has it
taught you about yourself and a professional.
Speaker 6 (38:41):
Uh? You know, it's like whenever I was coming out
of high school, it was just I had no habits
and I had no routines, no rituals. I was just
kind of good at football, you know. And it was
the process of working through therapy, working with the coaches,
working in the program that kind of structured an NFL
levels style of structure and being able to like really
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sharpen your skills when it came to not just playing
the game of football but everything in between that, you know,
and when when that sort of clicked, it was when
I really seem to take off, for sure.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
It helped make me the person that you are.
Speaker 6 (39:18):
The game, sir.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
You know, people want to know if you are as
a player, but it helped make you the person that
you are.
Speaker 6 (39:24):
You know, I've always kind of had an edge to me,
a little a little crazy crazy aspects about as you
can see in my film of just being able to
like try and go hit people as hard as possible.
But it was probably coach Barnett who really like was
the biggest mentor me in college and me and him
really related. We had similar stories, similar similar ways of
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thinking about things, and so he was really helpful when
it came to like guiding me on my path throughout
college football for sure, and just making me into the
man I am today and give me those same kind
of value. You know, where are you talking to us from?
Both from I'm in Iowa City right now in my house.
I got out here.
Speaker 4 (40:10):
What were you doing when the Seahawks called, where'd you
expect to get picked?
Speaker 6 (40:13):
And what were you doing? You know, I was actually
scrolling on my phone because so many other picks that
already happened. They were taking guards, and so I was like, oh, wow,
I don't see Seattle or I don't see anybody that's
been really high on me coming soon. So I was
honestly not expecting it. And then, like I was scrolling
on my phone, I was like, why am I getting
a call from Washington right now? And then I was
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like everyone radio silence please, and then yeah, I took
the call and it was freaking awesome.
Speaker 4 (40:43):
So had you realized that the Seahawks had traded into
the fifth round or you were.
Speaker 6 (40:47):
Unaware that I was unaware of that until they told
me on the call. I was like, are you serious
right now? Like I didn't know you guys are gonna
trip up for me right now. They're like, yeah, you're
you're you guys. You were staring at us on the board,
so we had to do something.
Speaker 5 (41:02):
What does that tell.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
You about the fact?
Speaker 5 (41:05):
Know what, what I'll tell you about the fact that
they traded into and use the next year draft kick
to get you.
Speaker 6 (41:12):
Yeah, that must mean they believe in me, you know,
And that's all I could really ask for, is just
to believe in me and give me an opportunity to
show what I can do and show what kind of
person I can be. And I'm gonna be forever grateful
for that. What is your Emily E? M I L y. Yeah?
Speaker 4 (41:34):
What's her last name.
Speaker 6 (41:36):
For right now? It's Kouba k u b A. Were
can be Stevens pretty soon? Yeah? What good for you?
Where did you meet her? I met here at Iowa
at the university.
Speaker 4 (41:48):
Congratulations, you got more than a degree in a football
out of Iowa.
Speaker 6 (41:55):
Thank you, sir for thank you?
Speaker 2 (41:58):
All right, there you go. That's both Steve.
Speaker 1 (42:00):
The Seahawks pick at number one forty eight overall, the
eighth pick in round number five. Again, they traded into
round five. They traded a fourth round pick next year
to pick up Boa Stevens guard from Iowa as well.
You want to chime in here, fellas, Sit down, Hey,
go ahead and sit down, just sit down, sit down.
Sit he's all giddy here.
Speaker 7 (42:21):
He must have did the sign that he chose something.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
And listen, here's the key is Rob will give us confirmation.
Did you pick this one.
Speaker 8 (42:27):
Too, Yes, okay, and I picked a trade up for it.
Speaker 7 (42:30):
So oh wow, I'm sorry. That's very nuts for promise, right?
Speaker 2 (42:34):
Can you con from that?
Speaker 3 (42:36):
I can't remember him. There were so many mock drafts
we talked about. Man If Corbas says he did it,
I know that. He and I talked a lot about
both Stevens. We talked about it, you know, I mean,
if you go back in time two hour two and
a half hours ago, we talked about similar to the
interior offensive line that made the most make the most sense.
We talked about both Stephens specifically.
Speaker 2 (42:52):
So what do you like about him? What about like
about Corny?
Speaker 8 (42:55):
The dude is cantankerous. He is a finisher. He loves
to drive guys into the turf, and he was a
top three zone blocking graded guard.
Speaker 2 (43:04):
And it matches on the tape.
Speaker 8 (43:06):
The guy he I call him an artist because he
is a technician, didn't test quite as well as I
thought he was going to. But he gets to his spots,
he gets to his targets, and he finished his guys.
I think Anthony Bradford better be ready for competition.
Speaker 1 (43:21):
Let's just put it that way. Rober, You're watching some
tape on him. What jumps out again at you? I
mean you've watched zillion players, so kind of refresh your
memory a little bit.
Speaker 2 (43:27):
What jumps out at you?
Speaker 6 (43:28):
Well?
Speaker 3 (43:28):
As Corpus said, I mean just contankerous, you know, Henri,
I mean just physical. I was watching a play just
a couple of moments ago against Michigan. I was down
twenty to zero at that point, and bo Stevens was
taking it out on the Michigan defenders, like maybe his
frustration the fact that the Hawkeyes were getting smoked, and
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so he was putting basically just pancacking guys at the
second level despite being down late in the game. You know,
that just shows that the competitive drive that you're looking for.
As Corban mentioned, uh, you know, excellent zone blocking guard.
You see his initial quickness, it didn't translate to the
combine testing. He was actually one of the slower players
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of this class. And you know a lot of times
when you think about zone blocking and you're thinking about athleticism,
but like Jadarion Price, they're running back throw the forty
yard dash numbers out the freaking window. I mean it's
just how fast do they play? And this guy's instincts
his initial quickness and just understanding where defenders are going.
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That to me is what we're talking about as far
as playing fast, being instinctive football player, and this guy
has that.
Speaker 8 (44:36):
He's just a really fun watch.
Speaker 2 (44:38):
He's one of my favorite guards. Enjoyable. I think that.
Speaker 8 (44:41):
Yeah, yeah, Brian Fleurd say, I really enjoy this. I
had him at I believe ninety eight on my top
one hundred big board. So they get him at one
forty eight. I think this is probably those cases. Seattle
was like, well, it's a little rich to trade into
the fourth, but once he was there in the fifth, Okay,
let's go get this kid.
Speaker 1 (44:59):
Makes sense to give up that fourth and for next
year to go into the fifth to get a guy
that you think you just said is gonna compete with
the Anthony Brafford. That's Corbyn Smith, Animal City Spectrum, Rob rang.
We got to take a quick break. We'll come back
and wrap up this hour and turn it over to
Chuck Palet Nune on ninety three point three KJR FM.
Speaker 2 (45:18):
All right, we got just a couple more minutes here
to wrap things up.
Speaker 1 (45:20):
Is Chuck Powell will take over at high noon and
take you through the afternoon is Day three in the
NFL Draft, well underway, we have we're getting close to
the sixth round.
Speaker 2 (45:30):
The Sea x do have some picks of the sixth rounds,
so Chuck.
Speaker 1 (45:32):
Should have some activity, should have some activity in that
six round. We didn't think we'd have any activity until
the sixth round with check. We thought we thought we'd
go three hours rob for the first time here we again.
Twenty twenty one was different. We were all in the
not in studio or in studios and stuff. But we thought,
for the first time in a while, we would have
no activity during our Saturday morning tradition of nine to
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noon and low and behold, the Seahawks trade up and
get Po Stevens, an offensive guard from Iowa, trading a
fourth round.
Speaker 2 (45:59):
Pick next year.
Speaker 1 (46:00):
So now they've had four picks and they have a
couple left to go when it's all said and done.
Just a quick recap from you on just an overall view,
not so much specifically on every guy, but an overall
view on how you feel like the Seahawks have added
to their roster over the first two plus days.
Speaker 3 (46:17):
I think it's been very impressive really. I mean, obviously,
the Seahawks entered the draft with an NFL low four
draft picks, and I don't think that any team in
the entire NFL has done more with less than what
the Seahawks have accomplished here. I think that they have
read the board beautifully. They got themselves the top running
back that was realistically going to be available to them.
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I think that he is going to walk in and
Jenerian Price, of course we're talking about, going to walk
in and be a starter for them, and it's a
high level starter in my opinion. Immediately Bud Clark and julian'
neil as defensive backs to basically kind of you know,
maybe upgrade, but at least fill the holes that were
left by the free agent departures, you know, of Kobe
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Bryant and of Tarikul on the outside at the cornerback spot.
And then to be able to trade the fourth round
selection next year's draft. We talked about how they had
so minutes, so much draft capital in twenty twenty seven
to use some of that to your advantage to trade
back into this year and get a guard that has
the flexibility to play left. Obviously Grays able as your
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guy at left guard, but still to provide quality backup
possibilities there and then really be able to push Anthony
Bradford at that right guard spot here with Bo Stevens
as their selection in the fifth round. I think just
makes so much sense for seat. So I again, I
think that's a job well done for John Scheider and
his scouts.
Speaker 2 (47:43):
Well, there you go.
Speaker 1 (47:44):
That is it for me. You're sticking around all afternoon.
I'm sure you'll be on and off with Chuck Is
and also the Fox Sports dot Com, c X dot Com,
all the other stuff that you've got going, Rob.
Speaker 2 (47:54):
I tell you this every year.
Speaker 1 (47:57):
This is fun because I got to hang out with
you in person, not just on a Friday afternoon thanks
to Farellies, I gotta actually see you and we got
to do radio together for three days. Our little seven
to nine club that we've had for years, you, Hugh
and I is a ton of fun on Thursdays and Fridays,
and our tradition of nine to noon every Saturday on
the draft is always a lot of fun as well.
Speaker 2 (48:15):
And your insight is a second to nine. I mean,
you're the best there is.
Speaker 1 (48:20):
Especially this is the day kind of like John Schneider
that you can certainly shine and that's why we're damn
lucky to have you as a part of the KGr team.
Speaker 2 (48:27):
So thank you so much for the last few days,
my friend.
Speaker 3 (48:29):
Thank you, brother, I appreciate.
Speaker 2 (48:31):
You're the best.
Speaker 1 (48:32):
Chuck Pale's coming up next, big thanks to Jessemin McIntyre
as well. Yes, and who's on site today and we'll
be here all day long, some of us not so much,
but she will be here. Chuck Powell is coming up next.
Jackson Feltz is here as well. We've got a cast
that thousands are all here. Stick around. Chuck Powell will
take you through the next few hours on ninety three
point three KJRFM.
All right, we're back for Ginia Mason Athletics Center. Our
final hour, at least my final hour here.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Yeah, thanks man, Sorry about that.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Didn't mean to hit you on that one, but yeah,
and then we'll turn it over. Chuck pal is going
to be jumping on here at high noon today we
have it does.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Look at that like, is there a there's a.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Love affair going on with the San Francisco forty nine
ers the University of Washington that appears Rob rang What
have we got going on here?
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Yeah, Fijian Price soak the corner. Me it's Caro Davis
got a lot of the attention. But this is another
six foot four, two hundred pound corner that at the
forty and hours obviously are are very intrigued by making
him their selection here in the late portion of the
fourth round. Earlier, as you kind of referred to there, Ian,
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they had made another University of Washington product.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Parker Willis. They left tackle Carver Wills.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Excuse me, they left Tackle their selection earlier in the
fourth round as.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Well, only just because it's the final pick of round
numbnumber four and the international fans are making these picks
for the respective teams and the Bengals will make the
final pick here of round four, and we'll hit into
round five, and that leads us into the final round
before the Seahawks get active again. They'll have two picks
in round number six, so Colby Young, a wide receiver
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from Georgia, is the final pick of round four. So
round four is in the books. Round five will begin
here momentarily twenty and twenty six NFL Draft. Seahawks again
do not pick again until early in round six. They're
projecting that to be a little bit after high noon,
although maybe a little bit low later than that. We'll
wait and see Greg Bell to come, a new distribute
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Seahawk beat writer and now of course the host ten
to twelve with Christopher Kidd, the Greg Bell Show here
on Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM, is sitting
down and rolling in and getting ready for this is
I don't know how you approach this. This is like
rang here. He'll know every player drafting, so it's a
little different for him for.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
The rest of us. I don't know how you approached it.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
First of all, that we're not used to this like
waiting until I mean, obviously twenty twenty one was different.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
But we weren't here.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
We were we were all locked out, so that wasn't
We weren't part of the process here. Usually we get
here on a Saturday morning for a Round three or
day three in Round four, dreg and grab a coffee,
maybe a quick bite to eat, and it's in the boom.
It's a flurry of activity. That's not the case this year.
Very different for John Schneider.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
Ye, he's walking around, yeah, shaking, yeah, yeah. I'm seeing
him more this year than I've ever seen him in
a draft. The one constant about the third day of
every draft is it is the most beautiful day of
the spring. Every year, the third day.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
I didn't think about that. You're right hold up.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
In here inside and looking through the glass panes of
Lake Washington. It's always the most brilliant day yet of
the spring, which it is against today here and the
Pacific Gord the rest. It is a challenge for John
Schneider to have the discipline. It's pretty easy, though, to
have the discipline to not tap into next year's haul
of draft picks. He has t twelve picks and what
they consider a much stronger draft next year in depth
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and quality and so that's the only chips they really
other than players, and why would you trade players off
a Super Bowl champion team other than that they have
no weapons to trade up with. They did move make
the move three spots back last night to get an
extra six round pick today, which is why they have
two instead of one. So Thevin end the draft with five.
But this was by designer. I'm sure you guys have
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talked about. They knew coming into this year this was
a thinner, weaker, shallower talent pool draft, and so they
traded two third day picks to get rashid Hi in
the middle of season. They traded picks at the last
offseason in this draft, and that's why they only have five.
It's tied for the fewest in the league.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
For people just tuning in, rob Rang We've discussed this,
but it's probably worth reiterating. If you were just today
sitting here on April the twenty fifth, and saying, Okay,
this year's Day three versus what potentially Day three could
look like next year?
Speaker 2 (03:59):
How different is it?
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Day three next year is just gonna basically be like
the second and third rounds I believe of this year.
You know it's there is just the high end talent
that is likely to be available next year, and it's
just gonna be a remarkable class. I mean, everybody's gonna
focus on the quarterbacks, of course, but uh, you know
Arch Manning or Dante More or whoever. The wide receiver
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Jeremiah Smith from Ohouse State that would have been the
first player, the first receiver off the board this year
instead of Kaylen Downs excuse me, instead of uh, Cardiel Tate,
you know, another Ohio State receiver. You know inst that
the pipeline at Ohio State is just remarkable. But anyways,
it's the depth of next year that also looks really
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really good. Now, of course, who remains to be seeing
if we're going to see a lot of the you know,
players are going to take advantage and i L opportunities
and you know, maybe they'll return to college. But what
it looks like next year does look remarkable, and you
understand why John Schneider and the Seahawks would be really
hesitant to trade off this the abundance of selections that
they have next year to get back into this class
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that frankly, just at this point there are players that
can help you, but are they going to be able
to help you long enough for the long term future
of this club to justify making that kind of a move.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
The other reason, guys, is they don't have a ton
of holes off a team that just won the Super Bowl.
They have ten of eleven starters coming back on offense
minus Kenneth Walker leaving to the Chiefs, and they have
basically the entire starting defense coming back if you count
the Josh job was starting over Riek on one, although
woman got three fourths of the snaps on a rotation basis,
and then the few departures they had they have filled.
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It's a one for one need in this draft. Kobe
Bryant leaves, they get a safety Greek wool And leaves,
they get a corner Kenneth Walker leaves, they have a
new lead running back in the first round. Very utilitarian
draft for the Seahawks and for the very few needs
they have now you could argue that they need interior
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offensive line depth and potentially a future starter because Anthony
Bradford lightning rod here in the region and the coaches
say they love his play, but his contract ends after
this year. So there are other moves they but probably
would have made if they had the luxury of doing it.
I wouldn't count on a six round draft pick being
an opportunity to start for Anthony Bradford at right guard,
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even if they go guard.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
No, I mean, and I think what you said there
and Rob as well, it's it's if you just kind
of look at what they lost, so ten of eleven
starters on offense return, Well, you could make the argument
now that you've replaced that starter with your first round
pick you have, And in fact, I don't think you'd
even make an argument.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
You would just say they did. It's as simple as that.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
So that that takes place, and then you know, on
top of that, you go defense and you lose a
couple of defensive backs. You've drafted a couple of defensive
backs on day two, you replace that as well. The
one place you haven't replaced anybody's boy in mafe so
depth at the age rusher. So does that get us
to where they know they still probably And again you're
talking about a six round pick, and we'll get to
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Rob with the thoughts of the second. But Greg, that's
still kind of the one little hole they have right
as replacing boy in Mafey.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
It is, although if you look at Mafey's productivity. He
wasn't even a three down linebacker by the end of
his time here. They couldn't count on him to rush
the passer, so they often blitzed out of nickel and
dime and took Mafey off the field. And in fact,
the Marcus Lawrence and Derek Hall were their edge rushers,
and Lawrence was a de facto outside linebacker when they
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went nickel or dime, so Mooy and Mafey wasn't even
in the factor of pass rush. Yet the Bengals gave
him twenty million dollars a year. They do need depth
and Mike McDonald ed rusher, and Mike McDonald doesn't have
enough of those. I think the board came out late
Thursday night and the Friday second and third rounds to
the point that they were a couple guys on there
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they probably would have taken Malachi. Lawrence went higher than
some people thought, although a lot of people thought because
it's physical physical traits, that he would go mid first round.
But the Seahawks are probably looking at potentially picking him
at thirty two guys. I said this Thursday night. I
wrote it the News Tribune. They won a jendarium price
in the second round after trading down to get a
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fourth round pick. If you trade down a first round pick,
you're gonna get a high fourth They still could have
gotten price, I believe, And then I think they believe
mid second round, but because of the flurry of trades
right in front of them, they didn't have any trade
partners left. They had to pick at thirty two, and
then they did the calculus of Okay, would price be
available on our next pick at sixty four because we
didn't get the trade down, and their calculus was no,
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And that's why they took price at thirty two.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Well, and two things there. For one, as you said, Greg,
I think that the Seahawks basically thought that they had
a trade in place. They did, you know, to move
down in the second round still be able to take
price get that fourth round selectually. I thought it was
interesting yesterday when John Scheier and Mike mcgald are out
here talked to the media that that Schneider kind of
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went out of his way to thank the Pittsburgh Steelers
for making the trade and sticking with their the agreement.
So clearly Seattle thought that they had a trade in
place here The other thing is as far as the
edge rusher, I've been you know, pounding the table for
this idea of finding that replacement for Boye Mafe. I
think the free agent visit of you know, now I've
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lost his name here, Dante Fowl. Dante Fowler, excuse me,
the veteran Now, while he is not, you know, a
future ten plus sac kind of a guy, the way
that maybe one of these Day three selections could ultimately
be he is plugg in play, ready to go prove
an NFL pass rusher who is a you know, kind
of a pass us specialist. And so maybe they are
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thinking that they don't have to necessarily go with a
raw pass rusher that might be available in the sixth
round when they already have a veteran who adender Day
is going to know very well because they had previously
coached him, that might be able to kind of just
be able to to allow them the ultimate flexibility to
take the best player available here in the sixth round.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
They the way the Seahawks right out their roster for us,
the positional roster, there's fourteen linebackers listed there. Now among
those fourteen, h six of those would I believe are
what we call it inside linebackers. Off the ball linebackers
think in terms of Ernest Jones, Junior Drake Thomas, that
type of player, Tyres Night and others. DeMarcus Lawrence coming
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back for year thirteen, I think that must be a
pretty safe assumption on their part that he's coming back.
They haven't one hundred percent set up, but they obviously
feel that way.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
Mike McDonald's said that he'd been told by Lawrence, Yeah, he's.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Be surprised that he's did.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Derek halluos, who's probably healthier than he's been in a
long time in an offseason, right, I mean, I don't
think he's ever had an offseason here that he's been healthy, right, No, yeah, yes,
I mean and so in Wh's And here's the thing
with Nuoso, I think we all think of him as
an old man. He's only twenty nine, right like that,
Like that's not like he's got some probably some tread
left on the tires. And then you got Derek Hall,
who's going in the final year of his contract, his
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fourth year, a fourth year player as well. Is there
another guy greg on this roster right now?
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Would it be a Jared Ivy or somebody that could
take that next step that replaces Boyam.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
Off A Jared Ivy's one that comes to mind. They
liked him in training camp last year as an undrafted rookie,
and then they kept him on the roster the entire
season when they were doing practice squad roulette with everybody else,
I mean every other rookie, including some draft picks.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Which tells you there was probably they were worried about.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
Interesting, absolutely were worried about somebody plucking him off a
practice squad onto an active roster. So we noticed. It
was very noticeable that he stayed on the active roster
without playing a lot. I don't think he played any
defensive snaps, played a couple of special team snaps, and
wasn't docted for merriment a game. Yeah, if any, So,
there is a plan for them longer term. I say
this a lot and write this a lot. The draft
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problem knows this morning, anybody. The draft is not for
this year. The draft is for two, three, four years
down the road. What's your roster projection is because of
the fact that draft picks get four year contracts and
a Dante Fowler would be a shorter term plug and play,
as Rob called it. But they're to your pointing and
they still don't have a two to three year shorter
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term solution at edge rusher. They have a choice to
make on Derek Hall. If they were the problem with
second contracts, it's they're very expensive in the NFL for
edge rushers, So they do have a decision to make
with Derek Hall. They obviously made a decision with Boy
Maffitt that they didn't want to get into that money.
So it was somewhat surprising that they haven't chosen an
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EDG resher by now, someone in the top three rounds
that perhaps could be a four year option, because they
don't have a lot of those at EDG Dresser right now.
You don't. You can't expect DeMarcus Lawrence will come back
for a third season of his contracted balloons at the
end and it'll be thirty five years old next year.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
I'm gonna this is this is where we test him. Oh,
if we go back in a year's time, do you
do what do you remember from from a Jared Ivy
who will be a second year undrafted free agent last
year from Mississippi.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Yeah, I mean he he's a much better athlete than
you would expect for guys sixty six two and seven
five pounds. I mean, so if he is going to
be playing that edge rusher role rather than a traditional
defensive lineman, that that is going to be something that's different.
But at the same time, again, because he has athletics
and athleticism, then I do think that he can play
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that role. The other player that maybe wasn't constantly on
the roster as Greg just talked about with Jared Ivy,
but was also a player that Mike think Dolland talked
about he is going to have an opportunity here for
meaningful snaps is Conor O'Toole from Utah and he is
a player that struggled a little bit with durability at Utah,
But my goodness, does he have some twitch to him.
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He also has some lateral agility us his hands. Well,
there's some real traits with him. If he were available
in this drafting, he would have been selected by now.
But the fact that he was in last year's class,
which was much better at least in my opinion, and
had the durability issues, that's the reason why that he
wound up being undrafted free agent, but made this roster
in the first place. I mean, he wasn't one of
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the guys guys on the just on the practice squad.
He made the roster and so that's that's a pretty
unusual thing for a team that obviously won the Super
Bowl a year ago.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
Mike McDonald has mentioned Connor o'toolas someone he's looking forward
to taking that next step you talked about, and at
a position they need someone to for sure.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
He also mentioned in the name there's a couple of
names in the safety room that that we've talked.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
We've talked about AJ Finley a little bit. Yep uh.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
The other guy that he Mike McDonald and prompted brought
up Rodney Thomas the second last.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
Night, who but the coaches are very high on him.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Comes over from Indianapolis, right.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
Right, free agent last month from Indianapolis. Was it starting
safety for Indianapolis two seasons ago and then he had
penalty troubles, a lot of past interference troubles and he
benched him and they was primarily a special teams player
last year, which is the reason the Colts, but his
contract expired.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
So they they brought him Like those are one of
the every now and then there's that under the radar
signing that right, but a guy that they're looking at
as well. And aj Finley's got good size, six to
two and over two hundred pounds. I know they're looking
for him. He was kind of he played with fifty
five snaps last season. I think it was not a lot.
Was banged up a little bit of a start.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
That started training camp.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Yeah, but that's another guy they like in the safety room.
I mean there's like Rob just said, and you mentioned
it too, like there's guys that they do find a
way to kind of hide, develop and look forward to.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
And Mike McDonalds talked about him publicly, and some of
their scouts have also talked about, you know, Rodney Thomas
the second as a guy that they feel like he is,
you know, a little bit of a diamond, the rough
kind of a guy because the fact that you know
he was benched, as Greg mentioned, but at the same time,
they feel like in their system that he could be
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an impact player for them. And again, if we're going
to have the safety conversation, I got to go back
to the selection that they made here, you know, with
Bud Clark, I just was just shocked when I watched
his tape. But just how many times he got his
hands on footballs. I would like it they talked about that.
You know, he had fifteen career inceptions, probably should have
had twice as many based on how how many times
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the guy's hand on the football. But again, when you
consider all the talent that this team has, uh, you know,
I just really think that the safety position is one
that maybe on paper doesn't look quite as good because,
with all due respect to Kobe Bryant, I mean, you
lost a good player. But at the same time, I
think that they feel pretty darn good. They're gonna be
just fine and safety.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
The point is, it's not even though Tylecotta played a
lot last year, especially with Julian Love being out for
a few months with a hamstring. It's not just Tylecotta
is walking into that job the pick yesterday from Clark
Rodney Thomas. There's gonna be competition there. Who see who
wins that job. Rodney Thomas is smart. How smart? He's
a quantitative science degree holder from Yale.
Speaker 5 (16:41):
He knows more, but he probably knows more about the
analytics and the analytics staff here to see how God. So, yeah,
Mike McDonald knows what he's doing John Snyder's and player acquisition,
but McDonald knows what type of player he wants on
his defense.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Well, you know, we're this is such about the amateur
scouts right this these three days, but I think it's
probably a good time to kind of toss out some
kudos to what they do on the pro personnel side
as well. And you know, whether it be we'll see
what a Rodney Thomas does along the way. I don't
think there's any better example than what Drake Thomas has
been to this football team or Josh Job, like two
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guys cast aside by other NFL teams. Yes, and now,
I mean Drake Thomas was cut by the Raiders and
it's an instrumental on a Super Bowl team. That's how
they undug him, Like you get cut by the Raiders.
That's like, that's like getting fired from radio and tri Cities.
Trust me, I know, like seriously, And all of a sudden,
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Drake Thomas is looking down and go, yeah, man, I'm
five to eleven, I'm two twenty eight. All I know
is I started and started in the Super Bowl and
have a ring exactly like they found a dude there.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
If he hasn't, if he doesn't intercept that pass off
McCaffrey's hands, who knows what we eight team was like, Yeah,
it was.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
A thirteen to ten game in the fourth quarter. If
he doesn't make that yet, and then job job jail
rolls in here. He also got released elsewhere so.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
And is now making eight million dollars a year. The
other thing that the pro player scouts for the Seahawks
have a really big hand in this weekend is the
the They have two draft boards. As we know, they
have their draft board, but the NFL Draft board that
what they predict the other teams are gonna do. The
connections that the pro stouts do. They have nailed that
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NFL board for years. It's told them when guys are
gonna go, who's gonna take what needs are trades? It's
it's lining them to make so many trades inside the
draft because of their connections around the league. That's a
real underrated reason for the success of Seahawks drafts.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Real quick, Rob I was gonna actually mention something as well.
That would be Parker Brailsford was just drafted by the
Cleveland Browns. If that's a name that sounds familiar. It
should former Washington Center. He goes all the way in
the fifth round. I'm assuming you're not surprised. I'm only
gonna say I'm a little surprised. From this standpoint is
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when he left Washington, the star was rising, right. What
happened with this guy? I thought he would be a high,
high draft pick.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
Well, frankly because he stopped growing. I mean he's six
foot and he's three hundred pounds roughly, you know, and
so he's just.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
And I just I listen, this is where this is where,
this is where we just why do we try to
assume what John Schnyder is gonna do.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
They're on the clock.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Interesting, all right, what traded up?
Speaker 6 (19:34):
Why don't know?
Speaker 4 (19:34):
They would have had to tap.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
In the next year, but they would have had to
tap it. They are on the clock. They will take
the eighth pick, rub get after it.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Give me some names. They are going to take the
commander's pick. Is in Uh, they just took Nick Barrett.
I do believe offense or a defensive tackle?
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Right, So.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
One forty eighth pick eight eighth in this round, one
forty eighth and Jess, do you have a draft or
a trade force.
Speaker 7 (20:03):
Do you have the don't have the details quite yet,
but you are indeed right It as the one hundred
and forty eighth overall pick, eighth in this fifth round
as we stand right now when they're on the clock.
Obviously we'll have to wait what the commanders do with
the seventh pick in the fifth round, but that is
where we're looking at. I'll get you the details.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Where go, All right, Rob, what are we looking at?
Speaker 4 (20:24):
Well?
Speaker 3 (20:25):
For me personally, in my top rd prospects are a
couple of cornerbacks and Keith ab Me, the second and
channel of the rivers. I projected both of them to
be candidates for Seattle as early as the third round.
They're both just sawed off guys in that five to
nine range, but they just play with the tenacity that
I prioritize at the corner back spot, so to me,
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they would be interesting prospects. At the same time, I
also think that other positions of you know, kind of
interest for the Seahawks might be those edge rushers. Joshua
Joseph's from Tennessee. He has that burst that you're looking for.
Mason Rager from Wisconsin as a player that I personally
am higher on than a lot of people seem to be.
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And then Keishawn James Newby to me is one of
the twitchiest edge rushers of this class. I talked about
him before. He's a true sleeper. This is the guy
that is New Mexico, previously at Idaho, but his initial
burst is as good of any edge rusher outside of
the you know, cross early first round selection. So to me,
Joshua Joseph's from Tennessee, Keishawn James Newby our edge rushers
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that I think are really intriguing. And then as far
as cornerbacks, you know again, Keith Abney and Chandler Rivers
are two guys that make an awful lot of sense.
Speaker 7 (21:42):
All right, Jesse, we do have a couple of details.
So what the Seahawks did give up was a twenty
twenty seven to fourth round pick to trade up to
number one forty eight in this year's draft.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
In the fourth round, the fourth round next year, the
fourth round next year. Yeah, so they did tap into
next year's Yeah. So now go down to eleven.
Speaker 7 (22:00):
And that is officially from the Seahawks, so it's not
just rumors out there. So I got that on the right.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
Yes, just got that so fourth round pick this year
next year for a fifth round pick this year. So
I mean it's just they got something else, right, they
must have got something else.
Speaker 7 (22:17):
That is the only detail that we were given so far.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
That's a that's a that's a boy, there's somebody there
that we love trade if that's the case, because that's
the value, isn't there.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
Well it's not, but it's you know the fact that
you were getting a pick right now, and so you're
you're the you know, you're the team that is probably
initiated this con this move. You know, you you called
up to make this selection. So, like you said, he
and there's gotta be somebody there that they are surprised
is still available. And they thought that was you know,
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probably should have been off the board at least ten
twenty thirty picks earlier.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
John Schneider's wandering the halls an hour and a half ago,
thinking he's gonna be bored, and all of a sudden
walked in there and said, wait a second, there's.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
This guy still available.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
That has to be what happened, right like and it's
and all of a sudden, then the arm is amped up.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
The alarm.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
The alarm bells go off, and you're like, Okay, our
dude is there, and they're a commercial break for TV.
So we got to wait just a second for the
pick to be announced. But the Seahawks, the commander's pick
will be announced first and the Seahawks after that. So
as it stands right now, unless we get other details
giving up a fourth round or now let's go back.
Speaker 4 (23:25):
So they trade it with the Browns, right right.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Joshua Joseph goes to the commanders with the pick before Seattle.
He's the edge rusher from Tennessee I just mentioned, yeah,
and you take him off that board that Rob just
talked about. So the Seahawks pick will be coming in
here in just a second. I don't think it'll be
announced on television, so we'll just kind of as soon
as it pops up, we'll let you know who it is.
But guys, that's I think it goes back to the
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surplus of draft picks they have next year. You just
talked about Rob twelve picks next year. Greg, you said
this a bunch of times on your show this week.
There's not twelve guys in next year's draft, making this
ball team exactly right, Like that's that's that's the that's
the that's the thing, Like, there's the way this team
is structured right now. And yes, expiring contracts, free agency happens,
but there's no chance all twelve guys next year if
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you were to have truly twelve the draft picks, which
I think would equal the most they've ever had right
under John Schneider. Yes, I believe right, Yeah, it's eleven
or twelve. Those guys aren't all making the football team,
so you might as well. If you see somebody, I'm
just I'm fascinated. I can't wait to see who it
is and get Rob's thoughts on it, because this is
a guy that this is obviously.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Something that they decided they have to go get.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
And and he's there, whoever it is, and as you mentioned, Rob,
he probably slipped whoever this is twenty thirty spots whatever
it might be, and he's sitting there and they're like,
we get We're gonna go get him right now.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
Well, and I mentioned, you know, my personal highest ranked
players again, a couple of corners I liked, you know.
I then mentioned Keith Abnuey, mentioned Chandler Rivers. Those are
more guys I like, but aren't necessarily the players that
the Seattle has kind of prioritized. Jalen Kilgore, or is
a defensive back the South Carolina who has the versatility
that the Mike McDonald and the Seahawks the prioritize.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Right, they're gonna flash it up right now, the Seahawks
selection at one forty eight overall eighth pick in the
fifth round is they're typing it into the graphics right now.
Maybe one of those guys that's playing in Europe or
something they have no idea with.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Who knows?
Speaker 4 (25:20):
You do know?
Speaker 2 (25:21):
The pick is in.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Indeed, the pick is in, and the selection should be
popping up here any second now, waiting to see who
indeed the Seahawks get with this selection.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
And then we'll hear from him, by the way, in just.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
A couple of seconds, as they'll make that phone call
and we'll get the conference call.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
So you hear from the newest Seahawks. And I've never
seen us have to wait so long for a fifth
round pick.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
There's gonna be Reguard there, pos Stevens, Post Stevens, all right,
all right, Rob fire Away Os.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
Stevens, Yeah, Bos Stevens. Again, it is kind of that
perfect schematic fit that we've been kind of talking about,
you know we mentioned before. I mean, Iowa is a
program that turns out prospects, you know, left and right
is a Boa Stevens. The guard from Iowa is Seattle selection.
Here they trade up to get him, just his agility,
the pro readiness for those Seahawk fans out there that
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have been looking for somebody to push Anthony Bradford the
right guard position, Hugh Millan, I hope you're listening, buddy.
They just got somebody that is going to be pushing
Anthony Bradford at that right guard spot in Boas Stevens.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
First team All American last season from Iowa. Rob, Why
does he slip to fifth round? And where do you
think he was projected to go? Because again I'll go back,
there's just a sometimes we use, and I know this
is a really weird term in sports media and sports radio,
if we use a little bit of common sense. They
went and got a guy that they feel like he slipped.
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Why did you slip? And where do you think he
slipped from?
Speaker 3 (26:45):
Well, I don't know that he necessarily slipped. I think
this is about where he should have gone. I mean, well,
maybe fourth round, but I just think that again, this
is a plug and play kind of a candidate here.
I mean, this isn't a project. You know that this
is a player that can compete immediately and he also
has athletic potential. This is not a to me. The
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offensive line group was starting to thin out pretty good,
and I just see a guy who has legitimate size,
who has legitimate at the athletic ability that fits in
beautifully within John Benton's system. And it also is again
coming from a system that turns out NFL prospects all
day long. I think that they probably had the third
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to fourth round great on him, and the fact that
he is here in the top of the fifth round,
that's all. That's what it makes a great value selection.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Well, Greg, we've heard time and time again from people
not named media fans or others, mostly Seahawks people McDonald,
Schneid or whoever, Yeah, we like Anthony Bradford. They went
and got a guy that can compete with Anthony Bradford.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
Well, as I mentioned, Bradford's contract ends after this year,
so they would have a decision to make regardless that
they loved him, or not. The other thing, guys, is
this is an indictment on Christian Haynes. Yeah, he's had
very much three different chances to win this job in
training a rookie training camp during the season, and then
last year in training camp, and no they haven't yet.
Well what Timmy has been tried at that right guard position.
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It's an indictment on him. If you're drafting an All
American and traded to get into that round, and you
traded a lower round pick next year to get into it,
Stevens is going to get a run. Maybe not this year,
but they I think they probably pencil him as a
campile and it gives you some death at the guard position,
right because I don't think you really because you just
said it.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
I mean, Christian Haines is you're kind of one of
your deaf pieces.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
He has not like the third round pick that has
been given every opportunity in the world.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
They were using Bryce cable Doo, a tackle from Kansas
as a guard last year and practices by the end
of the season as potentially to back up there. So yeah,
they were obviously not satisfied with what they had on
shelf of guard.
Speaker 6 (28:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
I just think that. You know, again, one of the
things that I am so intrigued by with this selection
is just the position of versatility left and right guard.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
His size.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
I mean, he's sixty five, he's three hundred and twenty
five pounds, So this is not, you know, he big
man exactly. That's the thing with Anthony Bradford. I think
one of the reasons that Seattle felt more comfortable with
him than perhaps some fans were is the fact that
he is a big man. You know, he's also sixty five,
three hundred and thirty pounds and you know, some of
the biggest, strongest defensive tackles that Seattle faced this past season.
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I'm specifically thinking, for example, of Jeffrey Simmons for the
Tennessee Titans, and then that was a much closer game
than perhaps you know, the betters out there and some
fans thought it would be when Seattle went and played
the Titans. I think a big part of that was
because the fact that Tennessee had a defensive front that
could get after the quarterback a little bit and clog
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up those running lanes. That, to me, is one of
the things that Anthony Bradford could do. He could handle
the big guys. He struggled with the quicker guys. Boast
evens has the athleticism to be able to handle those
quicker guys, but he also has the power to be
able to create some push against the bigger men as well.
And then going back to Christian Haynes for a moment,
I mean, I was one of those who was very,
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very high on Christian Haynes, and when he has struggled,
I kind of reviewed my notes on him just to
kind of, you know, remind myself why was he available
in the third round? And what I see, what I
saw on tape back at Yukon is a guy that
could make the splashy block, but sometimes would struggle with
just consistency. And when you have an offensive line coach
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like John Benton, consistency is really one of the things
that you are prioritizing. And so Anthony Bradford of course
struggled with consistency himself, but at the same time, not
the way the Christian Haynes has.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
We're waiting for both Stevens to call in. We'll take
that conference call the speakerphone here in just a couple
of seconds and hear from the newest Seahawks. So again,
if you're just joining us. The Seahawks have now drafted
four players this year. Jadarian Price, running back in the
first round on Thursday from Notre Dame. Bud Clark of
safety from TCU yesterday in the second round, thirty second
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pick in the second round, Julian Neal, a cornerback from
Arkansas yesterday, also a Day two pick that was the
thirty fifth pick, the second and last pick of round three.
He's a corner. And then today Bo Stevens, the Seahawks
again have made a trade. They have moved up in
the draft. They trade a fourth round pick from next
season twenty twenty seven to the Cleveland Browns and they
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pick up Bo Stevens, a guard out of Iowa All
American last season as well, and they pick him up.
So now five draft picks for Seattle. As it stands,
they could end up with five, six seven picks when
it's all said and done.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
Go ahead, Greg, let me ask you this.
Speaker 4 (31:37):
Rob collegians that played left guard, he started two years
at left guard in one year his twenty twenty two
season as right guard. Is that a big deal for
college prospects?
Speaker 3 (31:48):
Well, I think typically you want your better athletes on
the left side, and so I think that that's one
of the reasons that's that much more intriguing about both Stevens. Jennings.
Dunker was the right guard this past season four of them,
and he went earlier to the Pittsburgh Steelers. And so
again it's just Iowa, uh, you know, their ability to
you know, project guys to the next level is just unbelievable,
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and so again I think that would be one of
the reasons why they're interested Paul.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
Stevens calling in. What's head up to the podium and
check in with Poth Stevens right now? Hey, how's it
going on this?
Speaker 8 (32:21):
Chris White anam with the Seahawks.
Speaker 4 (32:22):
Man, I got the media here and they're gonna fire
for a few questions for you.
Speaker 6 (32:26):
Okay, all right, gotcha?
Speaker 1 (32:33):
What was your addition actually being picked by the Seahawks
And obviously they made that quick trade.
Speaker 6 (32:37):
To move up and get you. Oh yeah, you know,
it's gonna be nice to stay a Hawk. You know.
I got my boy Mason Richmond up there, and my
visit down there was awesome. I loves Coach Benson and
it was just a cool place and I knew it
was gonna be a right fit for me.
Speaker 4 (32:58):
What makes it the right fit for you?
Speaker 8 (33:00):
Obviously, the zone blocking is a big part of the
offense here.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
But what makes this the right fit for you coming
to the room.
Speaker 6 (33:07):
Yeah, no, obviously, I think it's his zone blocking, and
you know, just having another guy there as well from
Iowa to kind of show me the ropes right away
is just gonna be awesome. And I couldn't ask for
anything more, honestly.
Speaker 4 (33:21):
So, how tight are you with Mason Richmond is? Once
he told you about the Seahawks culture?
Speaker 6 (33:29):
Yeah, so ever since he went to the NFL, it's
not it's kind of been off and on. He's busy
most of the year, so I haven't been able to
hear from all that often. But when he was back
down training in Iowa City, he was just telling me
how cool it was and how coach how cool Coach
Benson was, and uh, you know, it's just you know,
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like we're gonna be friends for life, you know. So
it's just awesome to have a guy that's gonna be
there at my wedding this summer and to have him around,
you know. Sure, he's kind of big brother for me.
In college So what day do you get married? July fourth?
This summer. Thanks for fans who haven't watched a lot
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of Iowa football. What kind of player of the Seahawks
getting you know you're gonna get them all in the
run game, technical in the past, game love loved going
to hit. I'm not one to shy away from contact
for sure, but just more of that more more, more overall,
just a professional like person, you know, a person that
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takes things seriously and a guy that's from Iowa who's
always considering an underdog. You know, always has a chip
on his shoulder. There's no the Hayes, never in the barn,
is what coach Barents says. That's just the kind of
mentality Iowa culture has and what I've kind of embodied.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
What is it about that program that produces so many
good offensive linements?
Speaker 6 (35:00):
You know, when you have a head coach that is
so invested in the offensive line, that's where he coached
before as a position coach, and that's what he honestly
loves the most doing. There's no other way than going up.
You know. Also, just having the emphasis on offensive line
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at Iowa being such a big crucial part like most
of the times, it was just us trying to put
the game on our shoulders, you know, and trying to
make it so that we controlled the game and we
didn't have to put it in the hands of somebody
else to make crazy play. It was just us doing
this the daily things, the daily rituals, the daily drills,
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and making sure they were as fundamentally as fundamental as possible.
You know, what did you.
Speaker 4 (35:48):
Like about what you heard from John Benton?
Speaker 6 (35:53):
You know, he he just seems like he's one of
those person coaches, you know, one of those guys that
just and just see a number on your chest, and
he actually cares about you and cares about who you
are as a person, and he cares about your success
not just on the field, but also off the field.
Speaker 4 (36:09):
So well, you played left guard the block couple years
you played right guard a few years back.
Speaker 6 (36:16):
Do you have any preference on side? No. I think
it's just preference in blocks. Honestly, if I'm on one side,
I have a preference for like, uh, like, if I'm
on the west side, I have a preference for like
backside blocks, and then I'm on the right side, I
have a preference for like front side blocks. But otherwise,
like overall, it's not too much of a difference because
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I've been able to play both and rip at both.
So wherever they put me, you know, it's just going
to take a little bit of time just to be
set and then it's going to be uh, full full
speed ahead.
Speaker 4 (36:49):
After that, John Ventner, the Seahawks mentioned what side did
start you on?
Speaker 6 (36:55):
They have not? Now have you.
Speaker 5 (36:59):
Watched on Price playing all in college and looking forward
to maybe creating the whole prat.
Speaker 6 (37:07):
I'm not going to watch football too often outside of
this film, so I'm watching this entire draft and curing
a lot of names I've never heard before, I never
watched before. So I helped to hope we make a
good relationship with him and hopefully he trusts whatever side
I'm on tries to just run it right behind me.
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You know.
Speaker 8 (37:27):
But what were your thoughts on the city of Seattle.
I'm assumed that was your first time and you get
to come out here for your official visit.
Speaker 6 (37:36):
Yeah, that was the first time, you know, It's just
pretty It was something my fiance the place my always
wanted a visit too. She even asked to come up
with my third visit, and I was like, no, no, no,
this is the business trip. But no, she's happy, for sure,
she's she's going to be glad to be able to
be around that area. And I just just showed her
a bunch of pictures that I took around the facility,
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and yeah, it's just it's absolutely beautiful. I'm there so
breaking opponent's will to play, doesn't want to stay in
his gap, make the linebackers have to make a play,
you know. It's it's it's making it so that guy
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that wants to put his eyes down and not really
care about where the ball is at. It's just, uh,
I don't want to get killed by this person across
from me.
Speaker 4 (38:26):
So you've talked at IOWA about your ADHD and your
journey through that. What did you do to get what
was the key to getting through that? What has it
taught you about yourself and a professional.
Speaker 6 (38:41):
Uh? You know, it's like whenever I was coming out
of high school, it was just I had no habits
and I had no routines, no rituals. I was just
kind of good at football, you know. And it was
the process of working through therapy, working with the coaches,
working in the program that kind of structured an NFL
levels style of structure and being able to like really
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sharpen your skills when it came to not just playing
the game of football but everything in between that, you know,
and when when that sort of clicked, it was when
I really seem to take off, for sure.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
It helped make me the person that you are.
Speaker 6 (39:18):
The game, sir.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
You know, people want to know if you are as
a player, but it helped make you the person that
you are.
Speaker 6 (39:24):
You know, I've always kind of had an edge to me,
a little a little crazy crazy aspects about as you
can see in my film of just being able to
like try and go hit people as hard as possible.
But it was probably coach Barnett who really like was
the biggest mentor me in college and me and him
really related. We had similar stories, similar similar ways of
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thinking about things, and so he was really helpful when
it came to like guiding me on my path throughout
college football for sure, and just making me into the
man I am today and give me those same kind
of value. You know, where are you talking to us from?
Both from I'm in Iowa City right now in my house.
I got out here.
Speaker 4 (40:10):
What were you doing when the Seahawks called, where'd you
expect to get picked?
Speaker 6 (40:13):
And what were you doing? You know, I was actually
scrolling on my phone because so many other picks that
already happened. They were taking guards, and so I was like, oh, wow,
I don't see Seattle or I don't see anybody that's
been really high on me coming soon. So I was
honestly not expecting it. And then, like I was scrolling
on my phone, I was like, why am I getting
a call from Washington right now? And then I was
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like everyone radio silence please, and then yeah, I took
the call and it was freaking awesome.
Speaker 4 (40:43):
So had you realized that the Seahawks had traded into
the fifth round or you were.
Speaker 6 (40:47):
Unaware that I was unaware of that until they told
me on the call. I was like, are you serious
right now? Like I didn't know you guys are gonna
trip up for me right now. They're like, yeah, you're
you're you guys. You were staring at us on the board,
so we had to do something.
Speaker 5 (41:02):
What does that tell.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
You about the fact?
Speaker 5 (41:05):
Know what, what I'll tell you about the fact that
they traded into and use the next year draft kick
to get you.
Speaker 6 (41:12):
Yeah, that must mean they believe in me, you know,
And that's all I could really ask for, is just
to believe in me and give me an opportunity to
show what I can do and show what kind of
person I can be. And I'm gonna be forever grateful
for that. What is your Emily E? M I L y. Yeah?
Speaker 4 (41:34):
What's her last name.
Speaker 6 (41:36):
For right now? It's Kouba k u b A. Were
can be Stevens pretty soon? Yeah? What good for you?
Where did you meet her? I met here at Iowa
at the university.
Speaker 4 (41:48):
Congratulations, you got more than a degree in a football
out of Iowa.
Speaker 6 (41:55):
Thank you, sir for thank you?
Speaker 2 (41:58):
All right, there you go. That's both Steve.
Speaker 1 (42:00):
The Seahawks pick at number one forty eight overall, the
eighth pick in round number five. Again, they traded into
round five. They traded a fourth round pick next year
to pick up Boa Stevens guard from Iowa as well.
You want to chime in here, fellas, Sit down, Hey,
go ahead and sit down, just sit down, sit down.
Sit he's all giddy here.
Speaker 7 (42:21):
He must have did the sign that he chose something.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
And listen, here's the key is Rob will give us confirmation.
Did you pick this one.
Speaker 8 (42:27):
Too, Yes, okay, and I picked a trade up for it.
Speaker 7 (42:30):
So oh wow, I'm sorry. That's very nuts for promise, right?
Speaker 2 (42:34):
Can you con from that?
Speaker 3 (42:36):
I can't remember him. There were so many mock drafts
we talked about. Man If Corbas says he did it,
I know that. He and I talked a lot about
both Stevens. We talked about it, you know, I mean,
if you go back in time two hour two and
a half hours ago, we talked about similar to the
interior offensive line that made the most make the most sense.
We talked about both Stephens specifically.
Speaker 2 (42:52):
So what do you like about him? What about like
about Corny?
Speaker 8 (42:55):
The dude is cantankerous. He is a finisher. He loves
to drive guys into the turf, and he was a
top three zone blocking graded guard.
Speaker 2 (43:04):
And it matches on the tape.
Speaker 8 (43:06):
The guy he I call him an artist because he
is a technician, didn't test quite as well as I
thought he was going to. But he gets to his spots,
he gets to his targets, and he finished his guys.
I think Anthony Bradford better be ready for competition.
Speaker 1 (43:21):
Let's just put it that way. Rober, You're watching some
tape on him. What jumps out again at you? I
mean you've watched zillion players, so kind of refresh your
memory a little bit.
Speaker 2 (43:27):
What jumps out at you?
Speaker 6 (43:28):
Well?
Speaker 3 (43:28):
As Corpus said, I mean just contankerous, you know, Henri,
I mean just physical. I was watching a play just
a couple of moments ago against Michigan. I was down
twenty to zero at that point, and bo Stevens was
taking it out on the Michigan defenders, like maybe his
frustration the fact that the Hawkeyes were getting smoked, and
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so he was putting basically just pancacking guys at the
second level despite being down late in the game. You know,
that just shows that the competitive drive that you're looking for.
As Corban mentioned, uh, you know, excellent zone blocking guard.
You see his initial quickness, it didn't translate to the
combine testing. He was actually one of the slower players
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of this class. And you know a lot of times
when you think about zone blocking and you're thinking about athleticism,
but like Jadarion Price, they're running back throw the forty
yard dash numbers out the freaking window. I mean it's
just how fast do they play? And this guy's instincts
his initial quickness and just understanding where defenders are going.
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That to me is what we're talking about as far
as playing fast, being instinctive football player, and this guy
has that.
Speaker 8 (44:36):
He's just a really fun watch.
Speaker 2 (44:38):
He's one of my favorite guards. Enjoyable. I think that.
Speaker 8 (44:41):
Yeah, yeah, Brian Fleurd say, I really enjoy this. I
had him at I believe ninety eight on my top
one hundred big board. So they get him at one
forty eight. I think this is probably those cases. Seattle
was like, well, it's a little rich to trade into
the fourth, but once he was there in the fifth, Okay,
let's go get this kid.
Speaker 1 (44:59):
Makes sense to give up that fourth and for next
year to go into the fifth to get a guy
that you think you just said is gonna compete with
the Anthony Brafford. That's Corbyn Smith, Animal City Spectrum, Rob rang.
We got to take a quick break. We'll come back
and wrap up this hour and turn it over to
Chuck Palet Nune on ninety three point three KJR FM.
Speaker 2 (45:18):
All right, we got just a couple more minutes here
to wrap things up.
Speaker 1 (45:20):
Is Chuck Powell will take over at high noon and
take you through the afternoon is Day three in the
NFL Draft, well underway, we have we're getting close to
the sixth round.
Speaker 2 (45:30):
The Sea x do have some picks of the sixth rounds,
so Chuck.
Speaker 1 (45:32):
Should have some activity, should have some activity in that
six round. We didn't think we'd have any activity until
the sixth round with check. We thought we thought we'd
go three hours rob for the first time here we again.
Twenty twenty one was different. We were all in the
not in studio or in studios and stuff. But we thought,
for the first time in a while, we would have
no activity during our Saturday morning tradition of nine to
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noon and low and behold, the Seahawks trade up and
get Po Stevens, an offensive guard from Iowa, trading a
fourth round.
Speaker 2 (45:59):
Pick next year.
Speaker 1 (46:00):
So now they've had four picks and they have a
couple left to go when it's all said and done.
Just a quick recap from you on just an overall view,
not so much specifically on every guy, but an overall
view on how you feel like the Seahawks have added
to their roster over the first two plus days.
Speaker 3 (46:17):
I think it's been very impressive really. I mean, obviously,
the Seahawks entered the draft with an NFL low four
draft picks, and I don't think that any team in
the entire NFL has done more with less than what
the Seahawks have accomplished here. I think that they have
read the board beautifully. They got themselves the top running
back that was realistically going to be available to them.
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I think that he is going to walk in and
Jenerian Price, of course we're talking about, going to walk
in and be a starter for them, and it's a
high level starter in my opinion. Immediately Bud Clark and julian'
neil as defensive backs to basically kind of you know,
maybe upgrade, but at least fill the holes that were
left by the free agent departures, you know, of Kobe
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Bryant and of Tarikul on the outside at the cornerback spot.
And then to be able to trade the fourth round
selection next year's draft. We talked about how they had
so minutes, so much draft capital in twenty twenty seven
to use some of that to your advantage to trade
back into this year and get a guard that has
the flexibility to play left. Obviously Grays able as your
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guy at left guard, but still to provide quality backup
possibilities there and then really be able to push Anthony
Bradford at that right guard spot here with Bo Stevens
as their selection in the fifth round. I think just
makes so much sense for seat. So I again, I
think that's a job well done for John Scheider and
his scouts.
Speaker 2 (47:43):
Well, there you go.
Speaker 1 (47:44):
That is it for me. You're sticking around all afternoon.
I'm sure you'll be on and off with Chuck Is
and also the Fox Sports dot Com, c X dot Com,
all the other stuff that you've got going, Rob.
Speaker 2 (47:54):
I tell you this every year.
Speaker 1 (47:57):
This is fun because I got to hang out with
you in person, not just on a Friday afternoon thanks
to Farellies, I gotta actually see you and we got
to do radio together for three days. Our little seven
to nine club that we've had for years, you, Hugh
and I is a ton of fun on Thursdays and Fridays,
and our tradition of nine to noon every Saturday on
the draft is always a lot of fun as well.
Speaker 2 (48:15):
And your insight is a second to nine. I mean,
you're the best there is.
Speaker 1 (48:20):
Especially this is the day kind of like John Schneider
that you can certainly shine and that's why we're damn
lucky to have you as a part of the KGr team.
Speaker 2 (48:27):
So thank you so much for the last few days,
my friend.
Speaker 3 (48:29):
Thank you, brother, I appreciate.
Speaker 2 (48:31):
You're the best.
Speaker 1 (48:32):
Chuck Pale's coming up next, big thanks to Jessemin McIntyre
as well. Yes, and who's on site today and we'll
be here all day long, some of us not so much,
but she will be here. Chuck Powell is coming up next.
Jackson Feltz is here as well. We've got a cast
that thousands are all here. Stick around. Chuck Powell will
take you through the next few hours on ninety three
point three KJRFM.
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