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November 30, 2025 • 16 mins
Mindy and Mikaela speak with Hugo Souza, Principal Oboe!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Smith's movies and lights and displays, trains around Christmas trees,
things that just gets you into the holiday spirit. But
one of the most important things is music.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
It really makes between the movies and the sights, the
sounds are right up there. We're having that incredible experience,
and we're so blessed to have groups in town that
put on some pretty amazing shows during the holiday season.
When it comes to music.

Speaker 1 (00:24):
Well, we're also so blessed that we've kind of started
a new partnership with the Columbus Symphony Orchestra. You guys,
this is great because it gets you a chance and
gives you a chance to meet these musicians. I don't know,
I've never really had the opportunity to sit down and
talk to too many musicians who are in the Columbus
Symphony Orchestra. But that changes here with What Matters. We

(00:47):
started this last week, we're continuing it this week with
Hugo Sosa. Are you related to Sammy at all?

Speaker 2 (00:54):
No, I'm not, but it sounds like Sammy's name, and
you are the principal OBO for the Columbus Symphony Orchestra.
Welcome to What Matters. Thank you for having me so
first of all, explain what the obo is to folks
who they maybe you've heard about an obo but don't
really know about how it plays and all those. Sure.

Speaker 3 (01:13):
Sure, So the oboe is a double reed instrument. And
what that means is that in order to perform it
or to play it, you you have to use this
what is called a read and you have to put
it on the ebo and it's basically two pieces of
wood tied together on a metal tube. And then you

(01:34):
put it in the ebo and you and that's how
you you produce the sound, the very distinctive sound of
an obo.

Speaker 4 (01:43):
There you go.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
For a lease? No, not for at least?

Speaker 1 (01:48):
What is this? Is that? An obo?

Speaker 3 (01:50):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:53):
How do you joy? Not for aleast? So joy?

Speaker 1 (01:55):
So that's that's what you play.

Speaker 3 (01:57):
That is what I play.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
Yeah, And of all that you could have chosen to play.

Speaker 3 (02:01):
I know, I know it is you know something that
sometimes I question because as a noble player, as a
professional musician, a professional oble player, you have to make
your own reads. So besides learning your music and having
to practice all the notes that you have to play
for rehearsal and concerts, you also have to manufacture your

(02:22):
own reads. And that is also as time consuming.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
What does that mean? Can you explain that?

Speaker 4 (02:27):
Yes, so if if you come to my studio, you
will see I have a read desk with little read
whittling knives.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
Read is what?

Speaker 4 (02:40):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (02:40):
So, but it's it's a type of bamboo. The scientific
name is it is a different name, but it's it
grows similarly to to bamboo, and it's it's called caine.
And we have to purchase that because it doesn't grow
well in all environments. So the best kne that we

(03:02):
get we have to import from southern France.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
Uh, And that in itself, it's to procure it.

Speaker 1 (03:08):
Yeah, yes, but you use that as the mouthpiece?

Speaker 5 (03:11):
Is that right?

Speaker 1 (03:11):
Yes? Yes, yeah, you have to make your own.

Speaker 3 (03:14):
You have to make your own. And there's there's several
videos on YouTube as well if you want to get
more into back.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
I really didn't know you had to make reads in
certain cases.

Speaker 1 (03:22):
So basically, Hugo is multi talented.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
He is he's a double treat threat, if not triple,
which will probably find that out.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
I also think of is the obo Maybe I'm wrong
about this? Was it in Peter in the Wolf?

Speaker 3 (03:35):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (03:35):
It is?

Speaker 4 (03:36):
Yes, so that the oboe is the duck, right.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
The duck, Yeah, exactly. Oh, I always felt sorry for
the duck.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
I know, it's been a minute since I've thought about
Peter and the Wolf. Yeah, and it has been How
did you get introduced to all this? Yeah? How did
you decide to play this and get into this world?

Speaker 3 (03:52):
Well? I was born in Brazil and both my parents
are musicians. So my dad was a classical is a
classical guitar player, and my mom plays the piano. He
was was a pianist, but then she veered into music education.
And I'm the young, the oldest of four, and as
a family, we always grew up playing together. We played

(04:16):
for family events, family gatherings, as well as very early
on in my childhood, I remember my dad signing us
up for you know, oh, we're gonna play this wedding
here so so, and I had no say in it,
kind of like the Jackson five.

Speaker 1 (04:33):
Kind of like that different, but I did.

Speaker 3 (04:41):
They They gave me that freedom to choose what I
was curious about, and so I started on flute, and
I studied flute as at I started at age five
with my aunt and then I started, you know, letting
my curiosity take me to to try different instruments. I

(05:01):
tried the violin, I tried I don't even remember, but
when I tried the o, well, I didn't want to
I remember, I didn't want to try anything else.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
Wow, that's amazing. You guys also have a lot coming
up for the holidays. We were kind of teeing up
at the beginning of the segment Holiday Pops.

Speaker 1 (05:19):
What a thing do you enjoy?

Speaker 2 (05:21):
Tell us when that's happening and what that involves.

Speaker 3 (05:23):
Well, I've been in the Columbus Inphonty since twenty twenty one,
and my first time playing this Holiday Pops it was
just so I was so filled with joy. It was
a great experience.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
I know, did joy to go back? Good?

Speaker 3 (05:42):
But yeah, so. And the thing that touched me the
most was hearing such a great children's choir. You know
we have the Columbus Innphonty children's chore is just phenomenal.
It was something to that was I think everybody should
hear it at least once if you're in Columbus. Uh,
I think it's it's something that you should not miss.

Speaker 1 (06:03):
So talk about how you got lined up with the
Columbus Symphony Orchestra. How long you've been there, how you
tried out for it and we a little nervous to
come to Columbus.

Speaker 3 (06:13):
Yes, most definitely. I. Before then, I was freelancing in
in New York, and I was also pursuing my my
doctor's uh my doctorate degree at Eastman at the Eastman
schol of Music in Rochester, New York. Slacker then, and
I was freelancing a lot, and I think someone recommended

(06:36):
my name to our music director Rawson Right, and so
I went to At the time, they were looking for
someone to fill in Right for a principal position, and
so I remember that he contacted me and say, can
you please come play for me? He was conducted in Chictauqua.

(06:58):
He's also there in the summers in the Chicago Institution,
and so.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
Was Taco, where everybody goes in the summer to like
listen to music and performances and things like that.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
Yes, I've heard of this.

Speaker 3 (07:12):
Before, Yeah, the Chicago Institution, And so I went there
to just pay him a visit and play for him
whatever I had prepared. And so after that, you know,
he invited me to do to be a substitute musician
here playing the role of principal Obo, and so that

(07:34):
was twenty eighteen, I think, and then the pandemic hit
in twenty twenty, and then the Columbo Symphony still did
a few concerts during the pandemic, you know, with masks
and different protocols with plexiglass between musicians and all that stuff.
And then it finally finally came the year post pandemic

(07:58):
twenty twenty one, where the when he decided, well, now
this needs to be a permanent position, so we are
going to open an audition for this position. And so
I auditioned for the for the role and I ended
up getting it.

Speaker 2 (08:12):
Yeah, the family connection continues. Your wife is do I
say it? Am I remembering this correctly? Is it floutest
instead of flutists?

Speaker 3 (08:20):
Flits a flout?

Speaker 2 (08:22):
And so is she a professional as well? Or has
she just played her entire line?

Speaker 3 (08:26):
She did her Masters in fluid performance at NYU, but
right now she does not she does not play professionally.

Speaker 1 (08:34):
Okay, Well, we thought it would be kind of fun
to play this is your life, you go, so we
want to throw somebody on the line right now, and
you have to guess who this person is, okay, and
how well they know you? Is this person ready to
get on the line with us. Yes, okay, this person,
the guest person who was going to talk to Hugo.

(08:55):
Tell us something about Hugo that maybe the average person
doesn't know, A deep dark secret about Hugo from the
Columbus Symphony Orchestra. Go ahead, we'll see if you can
guess who this is.

Speaker 5 (09:08):
Okay, deep dark secret.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
Of the principal Obo.

Speaker 5 (09:18):
Well, I've learned that the it's very it's very sacred
to have all the reed thread. You're not allowed to
cut it off if you're not an obolist off of
like leg chairs or table chairs or things like that. So, yeah,

(09:38):
there's red shavings all over the house, and.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
That might be a clue, probably a big dead giveaway.
Who we're talking to you? Who is this Hugo.

Speaker 3 (09:48):
That's my wife, Laura.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
The flutiest Laura. Yeah, I mean Miny and I didn't
know anything about the read situation until Hugo told us.
I mean that is a heard of the job.

Speaker 5 (10:02):
Oh yeah, he has an entire room dedicated just to
readmaking that we just organized right before Thanksgiving.

Speaker 1 (10:08):
Oh my gosh, you don't have to do that with
the flute, do you? No?

Speaker 6 (10:11):
It's very compact, very simple. You put it together, you
put it away.

Speaker 1 (10:15):
Yeah, we wanted to have you on because we wanted
to ask you what it's like to live with the musician.
We could have just asked you go because you're a
musician too.

Speaker 6 (10:24):
Yeah. Well, because I'm not playing professionally, it's.

Speaker 5 (10:28):
Not you know, the actual part of my day.

Speaker 6 (10:31):
But for him, I mean, he's constantly listening to music.
He's always doing some sort of score study. There's always music.
He has his phone with him because he's always finding
new recordings of someone playing OBO on, new pieces, new repertoire, anything.
So he's always listening constantly. He's always thinking about what
gadget he can also get when it comes to remaking,

(10:54):
like there's always something knives, how he's going to contain them.
He's thinking obo, oh boy oo. Yeah, yeah, it's pretty,
it's pretty, it's pretty impressive, it's pretty.

Speaker 5 (11:08):
It's just he's super locked in and focused all the time,
even when he like even at home, because I mean,
the readmaking is just enormous.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
Yeah, I wanted to ask your husband about a big
thing that's coming up. You know, we've talked a bit
about the holidays last weekend with you all. And we
mentioned Holiday Pops earlier in the interview, which is three
o'clock on the seventh of December and eight o'clock on
the six and seventh is at three pm. On the fifth,
it's at eight pm, So that's coming up this week.

(11:39):
But right after the holidays, this would be such a
fun one. Rock Hits and power Ballads. Yeah, January ninth
and tenth at eight pm at the Davidson Theater over
at the Ripe. What's that all about?

Speaker 3 (11:51):
Well, I mean, if you if you like rock and
roll in ballads, I mean, that's that's the show for you.
You know, we're going to be playing big hits from
from you know, whoever, you whoever you can.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
Marry Hero Smith, I'm looking at it right now.

Speaker 3 (12:07):
Yeah, yeah, Cars, Whitney, Houston, Adele, Aerosmith. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:13):
So you've been all over, and Laura's staying on the
line with you because I have one more question for
you as well. But you've been all over. How can
you compare Columbus Symphony Orchestra to other orchestras across the nation?

Speaker 3 (12:22):
Oh my gosh, I mean it's it's a wonderful group
of musicians. I love being part of it, and I
feel honored and privileged to be a part of such
an amazing ensemble.

Speaker 1 (12:31):
And Laura, for you, when you see your husband up
on that stage and when you hear him as well,
how proud are you?

Speaker 5 (12:39):
Oh, You're gonna make me cry very bad. It's been
I mean, he's worked so hard, and it's been a
long you know, it's a long journey ever since we
met about I don't know, over twelve years ago, and
I feel like I've gone to watch him grow professionally,
and it's just really nice to have other people get
to experience his you know, his musicianship and his craft,

(13:03):
his artistry, and and you know, he likes meeting people
afterwards too, so I get to step back and watch
that part of it too, which is really nice because
he's approachable and humble and just a super kind person.
And to watch him go do what he does on
stage and to experience that from the audience, it's just
it's just really special.

Speaker 2 (13:23):
Yeah, very lucky.

Speaker 4 (13:27):
Yeah, you have two kids.

Speaker 1 (13:29):
Don't let me guess. They play music, don't they Well
they like to think, so they like to think, So
that is so funny. I bet they're proud of them
and they are great conversation. It's just so interesting because
I just don't think that musicians from the Klemi Symphony
Orchestra get a chance to showcase their personalities, let alone

(13:51):
their spouses.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
We hear them play music if you concerts, but you
don't get a chance of talking. This has been really great.

Speaker 1 (13:57):
These been outstanding. Lord, We're so glad that you joined
in on the conversation. What a great marriage you guys have.

Speaker 5 (14:04):
Oh, thank you so much for having me.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
And Hugo for Holiday Pops. Messiah, I think is coming
up as well. Plus as power ballad situation columbusymphony dot
com is that the best place to go to get
tickets that.

Speaker 3 (14:16):
That is the best place to go. Messiah just happened.
So it's going to be Holiday Pops And there's a
runout show in Lancaster on December twelfth at Faith Memorial Church.
There's limited tickets, but you can also find out more
about on the website.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
What's a runout show.

Speaker 3 (14:32):
It's when we go out in the community and we
perform for for you know, just.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
In a different location. And I know they did that.

Speaker 1 (14:40):
Yeah, Yeah, I'd like to do things with kids too
like to touch in here, like they can touch some
of the instruments as well.

Speaker 3 (14:45):
After Oh yes that there will be some of that
on the Holiday Pops before before the concert. And also
there's there will be pictures with Santa on the fourth
floor after the after the shows of the Holiday Pops.

Speaker 1 (14:59):
So before we let you go, one final thing for
anybody listening, and we're on Facebook live as well. For
anybody listening they've never been to the Klembus Symphony Orchestra
to one of your concerts. What's the one thing you
would say to have them get out to a show.

Speaker 3 (15:13):
Oh my gosh, come to the Holiday Pops and you
will see it's about the experience, not the came Prepare
you for that.

Speaker 2 (15:21):
Nothing can and for your kids the joy of their
eyes if they come with you. My kids did what
Mindy and you were just talking about. They went to
one of the CSO performances and tried some instruments. I
think it impacted Christian for sure when he did it
what you saw. So yeah, keep doing what you're doing.
Thank you for being a great partner and new partner,
and we're so glad to have you as part of

(15:42):
the what matters family.

Speaker 3 (15:43):
Thanks for having me. I appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (15:45):
Yeah, you too. Go Do they say anything, like, you know,
before an actor or actress goes on stage, break a leg?
Do they say anything to.

Speaker 3 (15:50):
Do they say break a leg or toy toy, toy toy.
I don't know what that means.

Speaker 1 (15:55):
Break a leg or toy toy. Yeah, well toy toy.

Speaker 2 (15:59):
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