Willie B and James from Full Blown Kustoms talk welding with Sherm

Willie B and James from Full Blown Kustoms talk welding with Sherm

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Waes Garage.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Willie Bee's Garage.

Speaker 1 (00:06):
Is now open up. Man, welcome to y'all will Be's garage.
Hell you doing well? What a weird day? Hey, bring
up the wife, Scoop. We got James from Full Blown
Customs up in the house. Mike Petiphord racing to day.
He sends his best and man, you know how difficult
it is to do a Willy Bee's garage show and
you'll leave your phone at home?

Speaker 3 (00:29):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (00:29):
Boom, baby, how you found my phone yet? Uh No,
it's either out there on the bar where we're chat
or it's still in the nightstand. Okay, all right, well
look find it and then do me a favor. There's
a couple of numbers I need on there, and I'll

(00:50):
use Scoop's phone to text you the deal. Okay, okay,
all right, that text Scoop when you found it, Delio
high five. Boom hum, it's one of the spots that
you just told me. Well it's around there somewhere. Yeah,

(01:11):
I'll find it. Look, you know, no man ever goes
to the bathroom without taking this phone. Oh you know
where it might be. It might be in the closet
where you sit down on the thing and I put
it on the shelter. Yeah. Uh all right, well we'll
be back in just a minute. Uh no, But seriously,

(01:33):
that was it's a lifesaver because you know nowadays, man
gets your phone and forget about it. You don't have that.
I got on my boy's numbers on there. We're gonna
talk to this cat from East ib named Chris Sherman.
They come sherm aka Sherminator. Pretty funny because he, uh,
he was kind of lifesaver at this adventure ride last

(01:53):
week to talk a lot about just welding ins and outs,
different ways, uh to attack of the day. And you
know what's crazy ooh, I had this interesting conversation too
this past a couple of days with with the wild
technology that's coming into the world of cars and three
D printable metals, and it is fascinating to see, you know,

(02:19):
just what's going on in the world.

Speaker 4 (02:20):
Man.

Speaker 1 (02:20):
We'll dive into a little bit today, especially when it
comes to welding. So James is here. James's got a
cool little chunk of treat event we'll be talking about.
It could be awesome. How you been, man, life's been
busy at Full Blown Custom, Full Blown custom with a
K by the way. Uh yeah, man, working on some
cool cool. It's weird, man, because you guys do everything

(02:40):
from you know, modern technology, the classics, two street rods,
the insane. You know, pick up a truck, builds. You
gotta kind of do it all. If it's metal fabrication,
that's your Uh, that's your thing. Yeah, it's a lost art,
but it's cool. How many cars you got in the
shop right now? Get right up on there so we

(03:02):
have them.

Speaker 5 (03:02):
We got five in the shop right now and handful
lined up in the pipeline ready to come in.

Speaker 1 (03:07):
So it's awesome. All right, man, let's take this break.
We'll dive into its seventy nine kvpi.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
Willybe's garage. You're back in Willybe's garage.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
What up y'all would be his garage? Welcome to it
every Saturday, man, We got a great one on deck.
I love it when it's quote seasonably high. It's a blast, man,
all kinds of it was great because just on the
way in this morning, I was a little panic because
I left my phone. I had to get a hold
of the wifey bear and be like, yo, I need
some numbers. But at the same time, it was easy

(03:45):
to notice a lot of people had hot rides. The
bust cars. The modern muscle was a good day for it.
I saw this sick. It's a Mercedes AMG five. What
was that five fifty gt or whatever? Little bubble teardrop
looking car with a big sport fin on. It looks
like some Porsche would throw at you, nasty nasty V

(04:06):
eight super charge deal at the light like a supercar.
And man, that thing sounded wick kid, I mean that
thing had an ext like you don't think about Mercedes.
But interesting. When I went to the Daytona the twenty
four hours, got twenty four hours of Daytona whatever they
did a couple of years ago. The only ones that
sounded like the Corvette when the Corvette would pass by,

(04:29):
you know. The only thing that sounded similar as far
as the notes tones and you know, just kind of
growl of the exhaust was a Mercedes.

Speaker 6 (04:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:38):
Those dude there, they got some pipes. Man, they're hitting.
But unless let's talk Weldy. We all love Weldy. Man.
It's funny because my boy Sherm, we call him a
Cherminador aka Chris Sherman. He joined us now and so
last week, let's catch you up. Last week, pretty body
that didn't know there is this event, this challenge, if

(05:00):
you will, called Adventure Ride. Ian Johnson from Build faroff Road,
he was in charge of it. Matt Steele, Chuck you myself,
all kinds of badass wheelers from all over the place
came out and tried to tackle some of the toughest
wheeling in the country. And Man, my partner in crime

(05:21):
that got the ride. He was kind of the chauffeur.
But I always ended up hanging with this dude right here,
Chris Sherman from the company ESOB. Now you guys know ESAB.
We did some crazy cool deals back in the day
with ESAB with a bunch of great partners we had there.
And as a matter of fact, I think we sold
in one day something like thirty thirty welders one day

(05:43):
when they did that rebel deal with us. It was insane.
So it was good connect back up with the guys
and Crispy and an awesome He was just up for
anything and everything, and he was a lifesaver on the
trail last week. And we'll get into that in just
a second. But hey man, welcome to the show.

Speaker 7 (05:58):
Bro, Thank you will be so good to be here.
Hey man, we had a great week.

Speaker 1 (06:03):
Great week we did.

Speaker 4 (06:04):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
I got to ask as a dude that that is
representing esop So in the guy that doesn't show build
Fort Road. He's huge. He has a huge partnership with
esop so ensure here gets to roll and ride with him,
you know quite often. So was it for you knowing

(06:25):
what we were doing, knowing that the adventure ride was
going to tackle some of the toughest trails in the country.
You had like twenty rigs that were going out there
to do some of this crazy wheeling. At some point
in your mind you're like, man, I'm definitely gonna get
to use that welder. I'm definitely gonna like I'm death.
There's gonna be some point during the week where I

(06:48):
get a crack off my equipment to show everybody what's up.

Speaker 7 (06:53):
I didn't know. I didn't expect it to beat day
one or multiple days, but yes, I once I got
I guess you know, having seen like hammers on TV
or on the internet, really you don't get a perspective
for that until you're there and then you hear the
crunch of the vehicle hit the rocks, you're like, oh no,

(07:15):
you know, something break, you know, And those those machines
are so tough. It's amazing what they can do out
on those rocks. But yeah, there was a couple of
injuries to the machine.

Speaker 8 (07:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:27):
Yeah, So first day, let's catch you up as to
why why ISA was very important to have on the trail.
And side note, James and I are looking at this.
It's got to be early nineties BMW eight forty I
real rare. That's a rare bird right there, man, with
the real pointy nose V twelves the first like real

(07:49):
supercar offering from BMW. Yeah, super cool cars, all right, man.
So we're in the jeeps. We're tackling this trail, going
over some pretty big rocks and whatever. Get to a
pretty you know, a couple of tough obstacles. But as
a wheeler, most people have never seen it. Most people

(08:10):
have never witnessed it, and definitely most people have never
been driving when it occurred. But you hear oftentimes about
the tube slipping in the differential. You heard anybody when
they talk about wheeling twisting tubes? Oh, you twist the
tube or you know it spun this and did that. Well,
that happened on a fourteen bolt on my jeep. I

(08:30):
got a fourteen bolt in the back. I thought that
was in this indestructible piece. Well, going up one of
these obstacles, coming up a couple of big rocks or whatever,
a couple of blows or whatever, it twisted the whole
differential and the driver's side tube on a fourteen bolt
rear end. It twisted on the passenger side tube, so

(08:55):
you got the the actual tube going inside, you know,
going into the differential on the driver's side. That all
rotated as one. Because there was a track bar that
was welded to the right side the passenger side. That
part didn't move, but the differential spun on a tube
and it did so over this big, huge obscaol. Right,

(09:18):
we get banged away, I mean, James, this huge big
gas rocks through one of you all kinds of different ways.
And mind you, I'm driving a manual, so that didn't
help you. I hadn't been in this rigging a minute
and it was one of those unexpected things. But the
I caught it luckily enough before it it shattered everything.

(09:39):
We're looking at the back of the jeep and I'm like,
wait a minute, that's not the pinion angle I'll started with.
So we started looking. Have you ever heard spin a
fourteen boat?

Speaker 5 (09:49):
I heard of it, Yeah, because I've welded up a
few of those and braced them all up, and I've
done some things to prevent that.

Speaker 6 (09:55):
But what's it feel like when it happens?

Speaker 1 (09:56):
It feels like something's wrong. That sounds like h So
we uh we took a look at it and it
was like, oh damn. That's when Shirm's like, hey got it.

Speaker 7 (10:07):
I got welder. I got a welder.

Speaker 1 (10:09):
First day? So what kind of day?

Speaker 7 (10:12):
I couldn't believe it.

Speaker 1 (10:13):
I could What kind of welter did you bring? Now?
This is on trail? This is back you know, off
a pretty you know, ugly trail, pretty ugly obstacles. But
because you know, because shearm was on the mission and
he uh, he's from the east Side family, you had
some tools, man, So what do we use on the trail?

(10:34):
Tell everybody take it from there?

Speaker 7 (10:36):
Yeah, I understood the assignment. I got a battery operated welder.
It's called the Renegade boult. It runs off of for
de waults, regular batteries like your uh, say, batteries using
your tools. It's awesome. Yeah, so what.

Speaker 1 (10:51):
Sot back Uplet's second, people may not know that. People
may not know that you can run a welder. He
just said that for DAL batteries like a power to
look at power drill whatever, uh circuit assault, those DWALK batteries,
power ess portable welder. You out how ease of comfort
things become when you can take you what like my

(11:13):
welder is always plugged into the wall, so I couldn't
take it on the trail. What are you doing that?
In case, they have made one that's portable that uses
ESTOBS technology but incorporates a battery you can get anywhere
into Walt. You just plug it in, you're good to go.
And they're so much smarter than having a proprietary battery
that you know you can only find from escape because

(11:34):
you can get a Dwalt battery. You know, most dudes
listen to the show half for Duwalt batteries amongst all
their tools. You know, so you can figure that out.

Speaker 7 (11:44):
Just that alone saved me a few times on different
projects where I've flown into a city, We've had a
show or a project and we're like, well, I couldn't
bring the batteries on the plane because I had to
check luggage or whatever. We're just going to go down
to home depot or what our other store and go
buy the matter. So sure enough we do are so yep.
So these these systems are not just a toy either.

(12:08):
Like we were welding with eight inch electrode, So anybody
knows welding, Like that's a lot of average that you're
turning it up to one hundred and eighteen to one
hundred and twenty two amps to weld eighth inch electro
and that's what you need when you're welding on like
a thicker axe like we're doing.

Speaker 1 (12:24):
Yeah, man, And why, just out of curiosity, why the
stickwelder format? Why do you think that is such a
good one to take on trail or using that scenario?
Is it just because it can work in ugly conditions?
Let's be honest, people that don't know stick welding. Stick
welding is brutal. It's like anybody knows tig welding. It's

(12:46):
like it's similar but much uglier. It's like if tig
wedding is the pretty people you know the eighteen on
stage on a Friday night. Stick welding is like the two.

Speaker 7 (13:01):
You know, that's what it feels like. But every every
process has its place, right, So there's still there's still
stick welding that has to be done on high rise
buildings or on pipelines or these type of things. Yeah,
it gets down and dirty, it gets it done. And
the reality is you don't have to have the other

(13:23):
elements like in tig welding or MiG welding, you have
to have a bottle of gas, right, Uh, you got it.
And in those cases too, there's there's not a battery
operated version of that really out yet. It's that kind
of industrial standard like a stick weld wood. So and
then the.

Speaker 1 (13:42):
Super handy it becomes.

Speaker 7 (13:44):
Super yep, we can and you can attack something that
has some rust on it or scale on it. And
and that slag that's on the stick itself that helps
remove the impurities out of the weld so you get
a nice solid joint.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
Really is that what that?

Speaker 2 (14:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (14:02):
It acts as.

Speaker 7 (14:02):
At Yeah that clay. Yeah, that clay looking material that's
on the outside of the stick that if you like
pang the stick, it'll it'll flake off and fall off.
You don't want that right, right, So you want you
want that stick electra to have that sheet on the outside,
that clay material, and that's what helps pure the pull
the impurities out of the weld while you're welding. That's

(14:24):
why stick becomes really powerful for outdoor. I don't have
to worry about the wind either. Right, So we're out
on the trail, there's a little bit of freeze if
you if you were using a MiG welder, uh, like
we did later that that night. But you know, if
you use a MiG welder, you're gonna have to make
sure that that gas isn't blowing away from the weld, right,
So if you have toot out of a wind, you're

(14:45):
gonna have.

Speaker 1 (14:45):
To like use I've done cover it up, yeah, man,
I've weld it outside before. You got to get a
play again or some of the black cardboard or whatever
to block the wind, you know, because you're trying to
weld something like that. But get anybody nor for example,
there's in so many there's a lot of ol fields
on the east and northern plains here in Colorado. What

(15:07):
are they always use They always have stick welding machines
out there. Because of the conditions they're welding in. It
is the proven choice and it's super strong because well,
get into what makes stick welding. I can see how
it's ideal for those scenarios and situations, but it's also
a robust Well, you can get a powerful, strong you

(15:28):
can throw a lot of metal at it. Man, I've
seen people shoving sticks in a couple times. When I
did it, my buddy Jeremy brought hisory gover and taught
me how to do it. And it's dude, you're plugging
some holes. Man, You're you're shoving some rod in it.

Speaker 7 (15:41):
Yeah, there's two there's two elements that come into a
lot of your welders and with stick welding, and it's
called arc force. There's a setting actually on that renegade
bolt that lets us do that. So you can turn
that arc force up. It's just stick welding, and certain
electrodes gives you that digging action is what they call it,
that arc force. When you have that, though, and you

(16:03):
design electro around that, sometimes it gets difficult to weld
with that stick. So your machine has to have those
digital settings in it right, so that you can adjust
that and make it easier to weld with that stick electrode.
So art force really helps you with that in that setting.
So I turned that art force up. We got some
digging action that gets that penetration into your base metal.

(16:27):
That's why that works so well. And that's why oftentimes,
like in some other processes, right, you're not digging that
deep into the metal. You've got to put multiple passes
down or you got to make sure you're even penetrating.
They call that cold lap. When you don't penetrate, it's
called cold lap. That's when you weld bust down the road.
You don't want that.

Speaker 1 (16:45):
Well, And what was interesting because here's the scenario we dig.
You know, we dig out the welder and man, you
talk about convenient. It's amazing. You run a four to
all batteries. We clean up a little bit and my
boys shurehim, here passes the well to end. Now you
won't see this on TV, but we just tacked it. Initially,

(17:08):
we went and did another obstacle and it blew the
tax off, so because it wouldn't enough to hold it.
So then we dig the welter out again and go okay,
this time it's hammer time and we put a lot
a lot of metal in there, and it held the
rest of the time. However, the peninnion angle wasn't correct.

(17:29):
And look, when you're wheeling, it's not as important as
it is and say, you know fast car's performance rides
and so forth. But I promise you this, if you
don't have the right pennion angle, you will blow your
slip yoke, you join everything else all apart. So we
had to get that corrected. Yeah, so the scenario.

Speaker 7 (17:47):
And that's why we that's why we tacked it too,
by the way, because we thought, okay, we're through the
toughest part of the trail, let's just tack it. We'll
get down off the trail, because we knew we were
going to have to gouget loose, busted back loose, rack
your opinion angle and then put a bunch of weld in.
So we knew we're the more well we put in,
the more work we're creating for us later. Yeah, at night,

(18:08):
and so we didn't put enough right.

Speaker 1 (18:12):
But that second time, let me tell you, it was
like out loading that bitch up. So he threw all
kinds of metal at it and in it. So we're like,
oh boy, so what happened next week, get off the trail, everybody,
we finished the obstacle. Now on this adventure ride, you
got to fix your rig in the eating to get
back at the trailhead the next day in order to

(18:35):
do the tough trail the next day. The next day
was a severely tough trail. Next day we did sledgehammer
and sledgehammer, dude, sledgehammer King of the Hammers, and it
was just washed out and it was a brutal man sledgehammer.
If everybody doesn't know, it's one of the tougher trails
on King of the Hammer's course.

Speaker 7 (18:55):
And it's it's the appropriate name.

Speaker 1 (18:58):
It's every monster, man, it is a monster. So that night,
imagine this, so my man shir him here. He's down
to help out. Never as a dude been so happy
to help out because hey, we were using essile equipment.
He was saving today and he knew how to do
something that I'm not witnessed before with the plasma cutter.

(19:19):
Now let me set the stage. That night we were
at the hotel, we met a guy and I gotta
tell you, I think his named Edwin Irwin. We met
this dude that was basically like remember the first fast
and Furious. When Touretto's house was like the hangout. Everybody
came over to the shop and fixed his car. Remember that, James,

(19:40):
I know he watched the first Fast. He watched his
Fast and Furious every Friday. So that home was kind
of like this dude's shop, like when we we were
at the hotel parking lot basically, and this dude shows
up and he goes like, hey, man, Nate Pickle, this
guy that has this YouTube following, he had some issues

(20:03):
with his rig and he was over at this dude's
shop trying to address some of the problems that he had.
Again that involved welding and you know, busting the oil
pan open and not once but twice. So a few
of us had these problems. So me, Sharm and my
boy Mikey go over to this dude's shop late at night.

(20:24):
Now Sharm brings the welter and he also brings a
plasma cutter and he says, I'll plasma gouge out all
that metal because there was a substantial amount of metal
thrown in this rear and this differential on the trail
after we broke the tax. So what was wild is

(20:45):
watching this process occur. Now we're at this dude's it's
a guy we don't know, but he's very friendly about us.
Tell you know how car race community is and car
people and the same way with people. Yeah, it's great.
So this kept down to help out, and short says,
I will, I will gouge out all that metal with
the plasma cutter. Have you ever seen that? And I

(21:07):
go no, but I kind of get the I get
the concept. So he breaks out another cool piece of
equipment and tell everybody what this process. Anybody has ever
used a plasma cutor you know how it blows? It
blows the metal way right when you're cutting it. We
can also if you take if you aim at naso right,
you could use that portion of the flame, the and

(21:30):
the you know, the force of it, I guess to
blow away all this this old weld and that's kind
of how you you started that process.

Speaker 7 (21:41):
Right, absolutely, So the plasma cutter itself has a different
tip for plasma gouging, and all that does is it
opens up the orifice at the end of that tip
a little bit larger, and it's got a little bit
different shape, kind of like a jet engine where it
converges and then diverges right, So then that gets that

(22:01):
lets that arc that flane that you see coming out
in the front of a plaza torch, It allows it
to stretch farther, so I can stretch on that little
bitty plasma. I could stretch an arc about an inch
off the front of the tip of that plasma tibe,
which is incredible. So then when that lets you do it,
lets you apply a soft arc into that joint, because

(22:21):
I don't want to pierce a hole into your drive shaft.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
Drive to.

Speaker 2 (22:28):
Horrible tube.

Speaker 1 (22:30):
So imagine the actual team got out of the differential
right right that juncture there that that you know the
spot he's there's a massive amount of weld shoved in there,
and he's trying to blow it out using that arc
of a plasma cutter. And anybody knows a plasma cutter,
typically that arc is very small. As you know, there's
a lot of slag and stuff that blows it. Do

(22:51):
you use the plasma cutter a lot at the shop?
Didn't you understand the concept here? Right? If you stretch
that arc out, you could blow a bunch of the
metal away without affecting the the original you know, tube
and or differential and that's kind of the game he's playing.

Speaker 6 (23:08):
Got a steady hand, well.

Speaker 1 (23:09):
Steady hand, and a lot of these tips and things
that they're doing allow you some of the process he
probably didn't know you could do with a plasma cutter.

Speaker 7 (23:17):
Yeah, And so I was able to gouge out that
well that we put on the trail without digging into
your tube, your drive tube, or your your the portion
that has your pumpkin attached to it. I don't want
to take away a bunch of that metal. I just
want to remove the well metal that we could put
on there and not pierce a hole into your drive tube.

(23:38):
So that's that's why that plasma gouging was so beneficial.
You know, after hours there we could clean all that
up and then the next step is we got your
your pinion angle back where it belonged. Yeah, because on
the trail, the best we did probably what ten degrees
it was.

Speaker 1 (23:53):
It was way up there. And I got to tell you,
even after we blew out all the metal, you still
have metal that formed underneath it that he can't get
to because he's trying to save the axle tube. So
what we did, anybody's ever seen a you know like
a f five fifty or six fifty we had with those.
It was a uh, what do you call that thing?

(24:16):
It's a massive imagine like a box truck but with
a bed on it. So it had these enormous ramps
for his off road rig that he climbed up it,
and it was it was a climb most people would
be a little intimidated with. So I backed up it
with my jeep and used the winch off of his flatbed,
wrapped it around the differential like you know, the U

(24:40):
joint part of the differential, and literally pulled the differential
back towards the cabin his truck as my jeep as
went to the trailer in front of me so it
wouldn't climb. So we just basically put all this TORQ
coner all this, you know, I mean, you wouldn't believe
how the thing was stretching, pulling, cricking, And then finally
the welds broke. The two broke in the direction we

(25:02):
needed to like that, and I'm holding the brake, I'm
win stop on one end. They're pulling the rear in
from under the jeep and I feel it breaking the
handle the gear shift, and I'm like oh, it just moved.
And then we only needed to move, you know, just
over a quarter of an inch. But then we had
to back everything off the trailer, set it down, make

(25:22):
sure we didn't interrupt it, and then weld everything back together.
And mind you, this is eleven and twelve o'clock at night,
So after all of that we were able to get
it down, weld it back together, get on the trail.
Guess what, that portion of the jeep never failed again
all day and sledgehammer all day, you know, for the

(25:46):
next remainder of the week. That part held together, which
is amazing to think about it. My front slip yoke didn't,
my power steering pump didn't, a few other things, but
that part held together and it was it.

Speaker 7 (25:59):
Turned yeah, yeah, it was. It was really really fun
and that, you know, that was one of my favorite times.
I know, yes, I'm the little guy. I brought some stuff,
but just hanging out with the community and then getting
to know you, William and how much you do for
the community, it's amazing. And I got to witness that
first hand where everybody just comes together, helps each other out.

(26:20):
Get you back on the trail, and you still you
still got to have a lot of fun. And if
you didn't have that, you know, community to come to
gather together, band around you. You know, if it becomes
along not just one night, but a long week to
try to get your rig back together.

Speaker 1 (26:35):
Admit of that, man, But look does a lot when
it comes to welding, the automotive world careers in welding. Uh,
it is it's wild man, Because look, guys, I'm telling
you man, there is the future is a wild spot.
You know when you look down the pipeline and see
you know, everybody talks now about AI and the fact

(26:57):
that AI is gonna be taking a lot of well,
right now, probably it seems and sounds like it's taking
a lot of kind of white collar jobs and kind
of a vague way to generalize it, but there will
come a day, especially now with the quantum chips and
robotics moving into the physical realm where AI has kind
of been you know, just in the they haven't really
come into the physical realm. But when the robot stuff

(27:20):
catches up the scale, you know, there's going to be
you know, robots that can weld and do things like that.
But it's a whole another landscape, and that's way down
that pipeline. Consider where AI is in what they're doing now,
they haven't breached into that the physical realm. So to me,
there's a whole industry there that if you're a welder,

(27:45):
if you know how to weld, if you want to
spend that time, that career to learn it and understand it, dude,
you can make a great career for that. And I
feel like still longevity in the game. Sure, there's a
guy in here, James run this really cool full blown
customs shop in town. How much welding do y'all do
a day? How much welding out? Like, is there a

(28:07):
welder going fifty percent time, thirty percent time, sixty percent time?
What do you think?

Speaker 6 (28:14):
It varies week to week.

Speaker 5 (28:16):
Some weeks the welder doesn't turn off. You know, if
we burned through multiple tanks a week. Other weeks maybe
another never gets fired up. But I'd say we're we're welding. Ever,
everything's got to get welded at some point. There's a
sheet metal panels, cheat car.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
Any car in there has had just a minse amount
of welding thrown at it. There's not one car you
have in your shop the dead needs something welding, and we.

Speaker 5 (28:42):
Try to not push all the welding off till the
end because what we'll end up doing is having to
spend a month of NonStop welding if we do this.
So we kind of got a weld as we go
and and mostly tig, yeah, almost exclusively TIG, occasionally a
little bit of mid welding on contaminated areas, spots that
you know, maybe multiple layers of sheet metal that.

Speaker 1 (28:59):
Have five Have you ever done stick what we were
just talking about.

Speaker 5 (29:02):
I have never stick welled in my life, and I've
done a lot of well, wow, I never used to
stick well.

Speaker 1 (29:07):
It's crazy, man, it's wild. It's uh, but it's it's
look getting strong and it you know, if you know
how to do it, it looks fantastic. But you see
it today, skyscrapers, buildings, you know, they weld all the time.
It's wild man.

Speaker 2 (29:20):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
And the equipment nowadays has Can you explain the difference, Chris,
Welders nowadays give you so many aids that are available
to really master welding. It doesn't take I remember I
learned on an old you know, my man hears from
me saw. But the first welder I had was a
Miller sinker wave right, and yeah, you know I had

(29:40):
the two hundred whatever syncre wave and you know it
was one of those things you had to throttle the pedal,
dip the metal in. At the time worm work, and
there was a rhythm to it, there was a there
was a kind of a Polese to it. But now
there's some of this technology you can have incorporated into
the weld machine that age you so significantly. It's I mean,

(30:04):
especially with these guys. The game is the biggest welding
company in the world. A lot of people don't realize
the best the world. So you guys are on the
forefront of this technology. Can you share a little bit
of that with us?

Speaker 7 (30:15):
Sure? So there is a lot of technology that goes
on behind the scenes. Just think about your cell phone,
for example, over the last ten years and how much
it's changed. Think about even your car, the dashboard and
what you have telling you all sorts of things going
in the background. You have fuel injection that's managing things

(30:35):
for you in the background. Well, we're doing the same
thing on welding. We can manage things in the background
that before it took twenty years of experience and like
under the hood and you're seeing something interacting in the
weld puddle under your hood. Well, shoot, you had the
weld for fifteen years before you saw that happen.

Speaker 1 (30:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (30:54):
Yeah, we know certain things need to go well in
order to create a good weld. Well, the more we
can take care of that in software, or in the
type of components that we put into the machines, or
even in the weld wire itself. Like there's different chemicals
that go into the weld wire that make a weld

(31:15):
They call it wetting out easier, right, so it joins
into the base metal easier with a particular wire. Otherwise
you're just welding with coat hangers, you know. That's yeah,
It really just kind of gives you some perspective for
what technology has has allowed us to change over the years.

Speaker 1 (31:33):
Talk to me about that wire that a lot of
people may not be aware of. Most people just get
you know, you just get rid and they give me
that box general welding down here, pick up a box
of you know, ride and go aheat it blah blah blah.

Speaker 7 (31:46):
Right, yeah, so wire will make a difference. And then
imagine if you are a production house and you're getting
into robotics or you're getting into welding a lot. We
can make wires that don't have a twist in them, right,
it's called helix. So you you could cut a section
of say, you know, six feet or ten feet of
wire off of the wheel and then throw it on

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the ground and it would almost lay straight. Now whereas
like old old school wires, if you clip that off,
it's still it's still wound up into a circle. Well,
that creates maintenance in your lines. It creates maintenance in
your guns if you have helix in your wire. So
that's another little aspect in flux cords. With that same

(32:29):
clay based material, like I said it was on the
outside of stick, we have that same type of material
that goes on the inside of what we call flux cord.
And there's all sorts of cool flux cord material out
there that'll let you weld out of position. It'll let
you weld nasty material and pull all of those impurities out.
And man, it is so cool to weld with some

(32:50):
of those because it makes it makes your weld look amazing.

Speaker 1 (32:54):
So all right, I hold that thought right there, hold
that thought, Chris James at your shop full blown custom
Do you find a difference in some of the rod
you use and how does it affect what you're going
to have? You notice some of this difference in the rod.

Speaker 5 (33:10):
Yeah, we kind of we mess around, you know, usually
we're using R seventy, S two or S six and
then I've kind of messed around going back between the
S two and S six, trying to figure out which
I like more in each situation.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
What's the characteristics of each.

Speaker 5 (33:23):
Pulling impurities out, you know, the you know, we if
you know, we're trying to keep.

Speaker 6 (33:28):
The metal as clean as possible when we're a lot.

Speaker 1 (33:30):
Of people don't realize that about tig wedding too. Man,
we were talking about how stick welling can knock out
some of these impurities for the best result, especially when
it comes to tig wedding. The cleaner the surface, the
cleaner the metal, man, the much a significant difference in
the result of the way it looks. So to get
it clean is sometimes tough, and it gets the right

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rod in there sometimes.

Speaker 6 (33:53):
And sometimes you can overcome that too.

Speaker 5 (33:55):
You know, there's there's a little kind of some of
these specialty rods that are out there, can you're a
little cheat you're in a really contaminated area.

Speaker 6 (34:03):
There's no way around it. You got to you gotta
get it in there.

Speaker 5 (34:05):
You know, we've found like three twelve can be this
badass rod that can do dissimilar metals, is has higher
elongation but also higher tensile strength.

Speaker 6 (34:17):
A badass rod that can be.

Speaker 5 (34:19):
That's kind of your problem solver, a rod where you've
got maybe dissimilar metals or that's.

Speaker 1 (34:23):
Always key to similar metals. People don't realize too are
always they always corow. There's always you know, this process
going on with the similar metals, this oxidation that happens
that they don't like each other very much. But when
you could well and combine them without all that all
those other properties working against you, that that's the big

(34:43):
significant bonus too. And how how that looks down the road.

Speaker 6 (34:46):
Yeah, and the science goes Den.

Speaker 7 (34:48):
And in automotive too, you got like, uh, you're trying
to reduce weight. You're trying to reduce when you're talking
in automotive racing, rock crawling doesn't matter. If you're gonna
reduce weight your horsepower both Elizah Cargill faster. So now
we're talking kromali tubes you're talking different stainlesses aluminum, so
now you have to use a different filler metal and

(35:10):
oftentimes a different process. Right. So you mentioned tig. You
can do AC tig when you're talking at aluminum. You
can use DC pulse when you're talking chromali and stainless. Right,
So all these processes help you. It's having a better
tool for the job and just trying to pull out,
you know, your old grinding wheel or your old MiG
welder from nineteen seventy nine and thinking I'm going to

(35:33):
do a good job with it.

Speaker 1 (35:34):
What's your go to philler rod at full blown Custom?
What's the one you rely on most?

Speaker 6 (35:40):
Er seventy S S two or S six.

Speaker 1 (35:44):
And yeah, Chris, when people are looking at you know,
at this filler rod, what would you reckon? It gives
kind of weird out here too. I don't know if
altitude has a play in anything or not, but it
seems it seems like here anyway, people have a special
like like him, a special sauce that they always kind

(36:05):
of rely on and go to. Is that is that
across the boarder? You find that everywhere when you're looking
or would you recommend different rods for something we were
just speaking of, like to similar metals and such.

Speaker 7 (36:19):
It's I wouldn't say like on just an altitude, but
certainly you mentioned a keyword earlier, which is corrosion, so
that I pay more attention to when it comes to
you know, are you near the shore, you're out near
salt water. Are you up north or if you're north
of the Mason Dixon, you're going to have salt on
the roads, just like you do in Colorado. So you know,

(36:41):
welding with something that's going to prevent corrosion and is
going to be really beneficial to you. So that's almost
more of an a more of an issue than than
say just atmospheric atmosphere.

Speaker 1 (36:54):
You know, we've got cars there from up north that
the welds on the exhaust are the first things you
see all this rust and croson and sometimes the pipe
we'll be rusted, but it's the welds and connections and
so for like that where things seem to show the
worst you know, effects of corrosion, salt and so forth.

Speaker 7 (37:14):
Yeah, if you don't pay attention to the filler metal.
S six is a common one that we use, and
not all seventy S six is are made the same.
You know, you they're supposed to meet a standard, but
you can buy a really junk wire that's seventy s
six and you can buy really good wire the seventy
s six. So paying attention to you know, good sources
of your material is important. And of course you got

(37:37):
your local, you know, welding supply guys that can help
you spec that stuff out. Again, this is another community.
Just like you got the rock crawling community, the welding
community is a whole other one too. So you know,
surely you've got you know, a welding supply shop just
down the road from you that can absolutely help. If
you've got some weird materials that you've got to put together,

(37:57):
or you've got a corrosion problem, you're like, dude, what
what what material can I weld this together with it?
That'll help prevent that? And oftentimes they'll have some answers
to that.

Speaker 1 (38:05):
No doubt. Man. Let's get into some other alloys. Talking
to luminum, everybody wants to. I'll be honest, man, as
much as I like racing and all that stuff, well,
the aluminum is overrated. I mean it's awesome. I wish
I could do it. Great. But man, you know, you know,
it's like this pitchmark. It is man paint the ass,

(38:26):
but it is like this benchmark. Oh you can tig
well this, you can dig well that you can do this.
You can mike well this MiG can you do aluminum? Oh? Man,
damn it. It's a thing all right, So let's take
a break. We'll talk about it. Coming up next Chris
Sherman esob E S A. B Is the company and
James from Full Blown Custom Custom with a cake because

(38:47):
that's how cool kids do it. We're back after the
breaking Willie's garages one of the seven nine kbp I.

Speaker 2 (38:56):
Willie B's garage. You're back in Willie B's garage.

Speaker 1 (39:05):
Whatever y'all would be his garage. We alive, got James
from Full Blown Custom, We got Chris Sherman from East
Hop on the phone and hey man, mark this day
down in calendar October twenty fifth, twenty fifth, right, twenty fifth.
We got this cool truck. How cool is it to
have a chunk of treat nowadays? I don't know about
when y'all were kids, I never had chunk of treats
going up. I'd earn my candy the hard way walking
uphill through the damn Halloween snow h you know for

(39:28):
a mini size or a fun size snicker bar. Come on,
many kids got an easy show over the parking lot.
Everybody's got candy in the trunk. You got cool little
unfoldable things that you throw rings on or darted through
or whatever. It's all fun and it's alright. There can't
beat guys. Yeah, hey, you bring the King size. You're
doing something. Man, who chunk of treat sir? They're awesome?

(39:51):
Remember we had to earn her candy? Man? What was
your first Halloween costume? James? You remember?

Speaker 2 (39:57):
Man?

Speaker 6 (39:57):
I don't remember.

Speaker 1 (39:59):
The Only reason I remembers cause my mom took a
picture of it and I still had that picture to day.
I'm in like this trench coat and there was some
dude that had this big nose, goofy mustache and you
had this Remember those glasses you put on that had
the nose and the mustache attached to it? Maybe that
was was Grach Is that gratcha Marks Gradcho Marks had

(40:19):
those glasses the big old plastic noses, goofy little mustache
with a hat of trench coat on. But I used
a pillowcase for my trigger treat bag and I remember
it was loaded up. I was like, oh my god.
And at time, your kid, as a kid in your family,
always watch out for raizor blades and the apples.

Speaker 6 (40:38):
Who that was crazy apples anyway?

Speaker 1 (40:41):
Yeah, man, that was crazy talk. But man, that was
that was the best you had, real size, like big asses.
That was a bomb. Pay Day's pay Day's underrated. But
look we got a trunk of tree. October twenty fifth,
bring non Paris with food items or turn that into
a food drive. They opened up me on the top
talking about there at full blown cuffs and make a
big day out of it. We'll talk more about that

(41:03):
in just a minute. What's that ten o'clock, ten am.
It's a blast, man, So come on out for that
mark that day down on the counter. I'll probably have
a hot ride out there too. Can't wait. We go
back to my man, Chris Sherman. ESB is the company
we're talking about. You know, I'm reply to the Cotters
Welders everything else, largest welding company in the world, and
we're just talking about different, you know, different kinds of welding.

(41:26):
I do mostly, you know, I do mostly make now,
I guess just because it's easier. I did build that
that wide body charger. Oh I got great news on
white body charger. Side note, all right, stick stick this
conversation on the hold. One second, I met this cat,
Matthew from UH from Eaton, who've got one of their

(41:46):
lockers in my wide body charger and he wants that
car in his booth next year for SEEMA And I'm like, oh,
so there's motivation to finish it up. So yeah, man,
I got a couple of things to do to wrap
up on it. But yeah, man, now I was like,
you you want to back at SIMA. That would be awesome.

(42:10):
So excited about that. We'll put that on the shelf
for now. But yeah, definitely some to look forward in
the future. But I did learn how to take well,
you know, mile steel when I was doing that car
and got there for a minute. It's one of those
skills that, honestly, and I hate saying this, you got
to use it to keep it. Although it's like ride

(42:31):
the bike, you do pick it back up fairly quick,
but to get really, really really good at it, you
need to use it on a daily and just muscle memory.
Such a player in that game. And you know, that's
why I brought James in for full blow and Customs
because he does it every day and he's dude, He's
got these these freaking wells that look like you know, now,
dudes post up pictures of whatever they're proud about, could

(42:53):
be their bike or their you know they're Harley or
their you know, back order old landscape, and I did.
And for people James is is welds. He's like, oh,
look at this pal and it's just all money co coloring.
It's got all that ooh and ah that everybody does
when they see cool webs like that. That's him. That's
what he does. And east Ibe is a company you
can do that for a lot of you. Let's talk

(43:14):
about stupid tig welding. No, it's awesome. I do love
tig wedding. But illuminum aluminum is a different game and
I hate that that sometimes it's the equivalent of what
do you bench for people that work out, you know,
aluminum welding, that's the bench.

Speaker 2 (43:34):
You know.

Speaker 1 (43:34):
It's like when you walk into a gym's tough guys,
you know, side, what do you bitch? That's like, it's
like freaking illuminum tig welding it. It is that benchmark
that so few of us get to. Uh man. And
because of the paint the ass. Why is illuminous such
a paint the ass Because it's always dirty, it's always

(43:55):
since you started a little little black and it's where
I'll just come from. It's luckily puddle. What happened?

Speaker 7 (44:01):
Yeah, man, So here's yeah, here's a couple. Here's a
couple of reasons why. So aluminum uh by nature forms
an aluminum oxide almost instantly, so that.

Speaker 1 (44:14):
An aluminum oxide.

Speaker 7 (44:16):
For people that may not know so aluminum when you
like when you scratch aluminum, or if you took your
brush out, your cleaning brush and you brush your brush,
your brush the cleaning aluminum before you weld it. As
soon as that gets exposed to the air, we breathe
the nitrogen and the oxygen in the air. Specifically the oxygen,
because it's called aluminum oxide, starts reacting with that aluminum

(44:37):
and it starts to create a skin on it. That's
why aluminum stays looking aluminum for a long long time,
right right, because that aluminum oxide protects that aluminum much
like stainless steel doesn't rust. Aluminum doesn't rust, and it's
because of the aluminum oxide layer. The problem with that
is it makes it a bear.

Speaker 1 (44:58):
It's weld its a the higher burn rate than the
actual lunium does.

Speaker 9 (45:02):
Right, So you're right, it's hard.

Speaker 1 (45:05):
Right then the actual material that you were you're wanting
to get into and play with, yep.

Speaker 7 (45:11):
Which is why d C TIG if you were to
try to ever do that like old school, and there
are some people out there that can do it, James,
you might be able to do it, Dude. It's super
hard because you have to break through that oxide layer
on the outside without falling out the metal underneath it. Right,
And that's what happens in DC TIG is you start

(45:32):
the weld and next thing you know, that crust breaks
loose and then the whole world book falls out underneath you.

Speaker 1 (45:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (45:39):
Terrible up. So that's why a C TIG is where
it's at. So your machine makes a massive difference. AC
tig will allow you to break that layer. But then
after you break the layer with that AC it's pulsing
back and forth. You can hear it. It's like yang
yan yan yan, or if you have a center piece

(46:02):
of metal, you might want to have a higher frequency, right,
so I know, like the sound effects, but a lot
of sound effects in welding, right.

Speaker 1 (46:11):
But people do they there's a big difference in the
sound of aluminum welding compared to the sound of just
regular mild steel. And it's much higher pitch and that
frequency is much higher, and it sounds vastly different.

Speaker 7 (46:28):
Yeah, So DC pulse is different from AC pulse. AC
you're getting. You're getting that that electricity flow is going
both into your weld and out of your weld, whereas
DC is only going in. So so you have that
pulse is different. So AC pulse is what you really
have to have for tig welding aluminum, or at least

(46:49):
tig welding aluminum. That looks pretty like James as well,
that's true.

Speaker 1 (46:55):
Now, why so you burn through that first layer of oxnation,
you get to the medal, but aluminum for most of us,
that little puddle is a little bit it's a little
bit wild man, you know how the no matter you
turn twenty one and that age between twenty one and
twenty three and twenty four kind of forget a lot

(47:16):
of acting. I have know, man, a lot of alcohol
involved in that world It's kind of like the puddle
is acting like that age group, you know, like they
just got the permissions lit to go pound some beers,
and by god, they're not missing out. It's erratic, it's goovy.
It's like, why you move in that direction when I'm
pulling you this direction.

Speaker 7 (47:36):
Yeah, it is a it's a very fluid puddle. It's
a very fluid puddle, and so.

Speaker 1 (47:42):
I would call it erratically. I would call that puddle female.

Speaker 7 (47:44):
Correct, Like, if there's a difference, you take the lifetime
to start to understand it.

Speaker 1 (47:50):
I guess, yeah, no, is that what you James? So
when you're well to loureless, what do you what are
some secrets in your mind that makes that puddle a
little bit more controllable? Do you throw chocolate at it?

Speaker 6 (48:03):
Do you so getting getting in hard and quick that sometimes.

Speaker 5 (48:07):
We're talking about the puddle, y'all. Relax the puddle. Okay,
it reads a little different. I think that's kind of
the big hold up. You started welding mild steel, you're
used to how that puddle reads. It reads a little
bit differently.

Speaker 1 (48:21):
You know.

Speaker 5 (48:21):
Also, you know, if I'm welding mild steel, chromali or whatever,
I'm floating my tongue sten. You know, I don't know
a sixteenth of an inch off of the surface. For aluminum,
I'm going to be back a little ways, you know,
And I don't have any stick out out of my
cup with the tongue sten. So I'm floating back a
little bit, and I'm more I'm not looking so much
at the light.

Speaker 1 (48:40):
Or white white. Why do you pull the stick because
when when I'm doing mild steel, I'll have it hanging
out just a little bit, you know, I don't know
eight quarter, I don't know. Yeah, what I do mild steel?
Why do you want? Is that how much you're shielding
it in that that surrounding of gas. There is quite

(49:00):
a bit to it.

Speaker 5 (49:01):
Yeah, there's some aspects of like we're using smaller cups
when we're welding on aluminum.

Speaker 6 (49:05):
It seems like the bigger cups are kind of that
the light window, the window of your weld itself.

Speaker 5 (49:10):
You're kind of trying to create a tighter window to
be more precise with aluminum because the arc is like
larger it's it is, it wanders a lot more than
it's drop DC weld. But I'm really looking at the
weld itself like the puddle, and I'm looking for that
aluminum to start turning kind of shiny. And if I
can get both both pieces of metal that I'm trying
to use together with my filler, if I can get

(49:33):
them both to start shining up like a mirror, that's
the time when it's gonna begin to they're.

Speaker 6 (49:38):
Gott to like each other.

Speaker 5 (49:39):
If you got one shining and the other one's not,
you try to add the filler in, it's not going
into both of them.

Speaker 6 (49:43):
So you gotta get both pieces of child. You gotta
get them to like each other. And you do that,
you make them shiny.

Speaker 5 (49:50):
And once you you know, starting off is the hard part,
the first dab. Once you got that first dab of
that puddle, that string of dimes you're about to drop started.

Speaker 6 (49:59):
It becomes easier.

Speaker 1 (50:00):
So I get in, I go in.

Speaker 6 (50:02):
You know, might want to do a light brush.

Speaker 5 (50:04):
Over at low amperage to kind of clean that surface up,
if you feel like you need to, and then just
harden to that pedal and just start going like kind
of deep.

Speaker 1 (50:12):
It is faster. Illuminums a lot faster than than mild still,
and you'll use.

Speaker 6 (50:17):
Up a whole rod real quick. Yeah, so yeah, feeding
material boom boom boom.

Speaker 5 (50:22):
Interesting man, So getting into it hard and quick is
kind of one of the things that will help.

Speaker 6 (50:27):
You prevent blowing through.

Speaker 1 (50:29):
I noticed that the times I've done it, and you know,
sometimes I've been successful, sometimes I've been failed. You can
see that tanking it back of that jeep and know
I'm still got some work to do, but it didn't
we uh. Let me ask you this, Why is it
that aluminum seems too There's so much different variation I

(50:53):
guess in the aluminum that you're sometimes using this filler
between the lunins you're trying to combine. Is there not
just a standard and objective standards across the borders to
what There's so many different aluminums that some of them
are just nasty. They seem like they're laid up with
dirt and corrosion, and then other luminiums I'm welding into

(51:15):
will be really pure, really clean, and they'll be you know,
just they'll look significantly different. What's the best way to
get aluminum and ensure them? You can start with your
answer and we'll go to James. When you have a
nice aluminum and you're trying to weld to an ugly illuminum.

(51:36):
And I know that's probably a weird way to describe it,
but you know what I'll talk about. There's a lot
of variations in aluminum, right.

Speaker 7 (51:44):
There is, So your typical is forty forty three, right,
so that's what that's your cheaper, more standard illuminum. But
you could get into seven thousand series aluminum as well.
So not unlike mild steel where you heard that seventy
S six seventy stands for the seventy thousand pencil strength, right,

(52:05):
so the pounds force, right, So seventy thousand pounds of
force is what that wire is able to handle. So
seventy S six same thing in aluminum that grade forty
forty three seven thousand series, six thousand series alone, you
have different series. You're gonna need to match your filler
metal to that, and then it will act a little

(52:26):
bit different under the hood.

Speaker 1 (52:29):
What if you don't know, what if you're not aware
of the aluminum you're welding into, is there one that
you should go with or is it just good luck?

Speaker 7 (52:39):
I mean, now it goes back to application. If it's
just you're sticking something together to use around the farmer ranch,
and it's not mattering that much. You're not selling a product.
I just stick it together with the illumina rod. I
got the garage. But if you're if you're gonna, if
you're gonna be a production house and you're making something,
then all of a sudden, all those numbers matter to you.

(52:59):
Your gas mixture matters to you too. It might be
straight argon, you might wind up if it's sticker, you
might use an argon helium blend right, so your helium
is going to give you more penetration into the metal.
It's same in plasma too, by the way, So I'll
use an argon hydrogen to plasma cut stick aluminum. It

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just it does better. It has a has a hotter arc.

Speaker 1 (53:24):
What are you usings off in front of it? Almum?

Speaker 6 (53:27):
Oh, we're just using straight argon.

Speaker 7 (53:29):
Okay, straight argon.

Speaker 6 (53:31):
You know we've we've seen you know, some of these.

Speaker 5 (53:33):
Different mixtures of gases and some exotic materials, you know,
needing some tri mix or helium.

Speaker 6 (53:39):
Get it getting a weld a lot hotter.

Speaker 5 (53:41):
So your machine only goes up to two hundred and
fifty amps, but you're really asking it to do three
hundred and fifty. You might have to instead of going
to buying one hundred thousand dollars machine, maybe just switch
up your gas mixture for the day.

Speaker 6 (53:52):
All right, there you go, Hey, dude, didn't know that.

Speaker 1 (53:54):
All right? What else matters when you're messing with aluminum?

Speaker 7 (53:58):
Hey, last trick of the trade for sure, that I
that it was a game changer for me is my
auto darkening hood. So I grew up old school. I've
been in this game over thirty years now, and I
can remember my first standard Jackson hood right that it's
got to fixed shade, dude, When you can, when you
can have an auto dark and then you have these

(54:18):
big screen it's like watching a big screen high def
TV now on these new hoods, it's amazing. It's beautiful.
And then there's different true color filters now on the
higher end ones. Dude, you're seeing the colors. It's not
just green, right, old school hoods. You're just seeing like
watching a monochromatic old school like atari.

Speaker 4 (54:37):
You know.

Speaker 7 (54:39):
On the new hoods. Yeah, like punk right, So that's
so your old school hood like playing pong, New school
hoods like playing whatever your favorite you know, three D
world graphic you know video game is. That's how I
feel about it. The my new hood that I have
the Sentinel from Mesa. But it's it is awesome true

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color technology.

Speaker 1 (55:01):
It's great here I have to say one is hilarious.

Speaker 7 (55:05):
Yeah, it's awesome and you're seeing colors and so I
like it. And I like what James said about the
shininess when you're welding with aluminum, seeing that that oxide layer,
crust break, boose and then you see that shiny metal
in between. And especially if you're dissimilar or you've got
well going on, you're needing to see both of those

(55:26):
sides shiny up. I love that, James. That was a
great tip.

Speaker 1 (55:29):
I loved it that there is that moment you can
see it getting shiny like that mirror, you know, and
if you let go too far and it bubbles and
it just blows out, it goes too deep, you know.
But yeah, man, when you do see there is that moment,
that timing is everything and it really comes into play
in that, uh any other off the top of your

(55:50):
head tricks for aluminum? What about? Well, let me ask
you James first, And I got one more aspect of it.
I gotta I gotta bring to the table. But in
your world, any other tricks for aluminum, keep it clean,
you know the best way to clean aluminum. Is it
true that you should only have one steel brush or
stainless stel brush for aluminum and use that only for aluminum,

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don't use it for mob steel. So people that may
not notice when you you know your brush you're clean
to some of that oxidation, some of that that first
that layer of skin off. Make sure you don't and
it sounds silly because you don't think about it, but
make sure you don't cross up your brushes that you're
using the to you know, scrape and score up the
alloy totally.

Speaker 6 (56:32):
Yeah, we don't.

Speaker 5 (56:33):
You don't want to pound any more contamination into that
as you're as you're trying to get the contamination out
of it.

Speaker 6 (56:37):
So that's kind of the biggest thing.

Speaker 5 (56:40):
Cleanliness, you know, clean tongsten, clean material, Use some acet tone,
maybe use a torch. They you used act tone, wiped
it with a rag, grab a torch, torch it really quick.
Make sure you're burning off any little pieces of lint
or cotton or whatever that's on there, maybe a little
bit of oil or something like that. So getting it
a little warm beforehand might help to especially thicker aluminum.

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You want to get some deep penetration in there, and
really hard on illuminum actually penetrate aluminum. So heating it
up with a torch pror it might be what you
gotta do prepairing a cylinder head or a block or
something like that, a deep bevel.

Speaker 6 (57:15):
You know it's going to help you, all right.

Speaker 7 (57:18):
I like what you just said, James. I love what
you just said about heating it up having a consistent
heat to prevent that post weld crack too. So if
you're welding on your block, you're welding on something that's
massive underneath you're that weld metal is going to shrink
into a tiny little puddle and then crack right along
the heat effective zone if you don't have a consistent heat.

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So actually doing a careful, obviously careful, careful preheat in
that region is really helpful forgetting a good weld and
a strong weld that's not going to.

Speaker 1 (57:48):
Crack on you. All right. So I gotta bring this
up because I've seen a lot of people attempt to
use it. But what about spool guns for illuminum? Is
there a play for them? You think they're effective? What's
what's the application for a spool gun, because I know
there's a lot of dose out there, like, why did

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that a spool gun out? Did you will?

Speaker 7 (58:11):
Yeah, I'll tell you my last one. I just worked
with a buddy out in Florida who had a headache
crack that was made out of aluminum. And here's what.
Because a small unknown fact, all aluminum cracks. If you
vibrate it in any form fashion, it could be ultrasonic.
Eventually it'll work hard and crack. So oftentimes on trailers,

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headache cracks things that you have around the house.

Speaker 1 (58:38):
For people don't know, the headache rack is the big
bars you see across the back window of a pickup truck,
normally fixed to the bed. There's called a headache rack. Yeah,
for those that.

Speaker 7 (58:50):
Don't prevents the headache. The reason they're prevents the headache.
Prevents something from the bed of your truck flying into
the back of your room giving you a headache. Headache crack. So,
so he had a crack in that and that aluminum
headache crack. Because I also like, I want to make
it lightweight. I't want this big, old steel, heavy, big
thing on my truck. So you had made it out
of illuminum. Well it cracked. So we pulled out that

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spool gun and ran it off of of a of
an engine drive welders that I have and pulled that
spool gun out and it was awesome. That's a great
application of that. It acts. It's a MiG process spool gun.
Timey little spool Uh. There's definitely some technique to it.
And what James said about moving, move fast, that's that's

(59:33):
kind of that feeling with a spool gun is you're
going to do your own little mechanical pulse of your
hand and you're doing these little eighth the quarter ranch,
little forward and back weaves as you pull that trigger.
And you want to you want to weld hot right,
get in, get fast, get hot and move and uh
that's those spool guns can come in handy for that.

(59:54):
As far as like production welding with a spool gun.
Now I go invest in like the legit, you know,
high end welder with a pushbowl gun with the right gases,
right weld et cetera. And that's those those guys making
you know, high end trailers or production level stuff. You're
gonna you're gonna buy the right welder. But for somebody
for like me and my garage. Shoot, I'll use I'll

(01:00:15):
use a school gun all day long on the project.
I want to stick some things together.

Speaker 1 (01:00:19):
Yeah heck yeah yeah man. So again, it's one of
those things where it really depends on what your application is,
how you plan on showing that off. For a lot
of it was like, yeah, man, that's perfect. Allows me
to play with some lunum. At the same time, you
don't need to break down and get that super crazy
fancy machine if that's not something you're going after. Again,

(01:00:40):
it's there's so many ways in so many different techniques.
It's really great that you know, you guys can jump online.
You could.

Speaker 2 (01:00:48):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:00:49):
East Ode is a great resource too. Man. They have
all kinds of stuff up online that the help out.

Speaker 7 (01:00:53):
We have free training. Yeah, we have free training online too.
You go on just start oh yeah, our main website
and if you go up into service and knowledge and stuff,
you can man our website loaded with all sorts of stuff.
And then of course we load all sorts of videos
on YouTube, et cetera.

Speaker 1 (01:01:08):
Well kind of train. Yeah, you have actual videos that
people can go and and learn how to do a
couple of steps in meg and tig and stick and
all all the kind of movie you could go.

Speaker 7 (01:01:18):
You could go as deep as you want to go.
And like our our distributors or even our end users,
we can give you access to a portal that thing
gets you even deeper trainings. You've got tons of trainings online.

Speaker 1 (01:01:29):
Yeah, yeah, wild man, Uh, same question. Will it also
yet things online there that show that a couple of
different techniques we were talking about earlier with the plasma machine.

Speaker 7 (01:01:41):
Yeah, I've got some videos I did I don't know,
five years ago or so about different techniques on gouging
with the plasma. So plasma gouging it's not just point
and shoot. You have you have some personal responsibility there too.
For the angle of the torch, Like you said, you
lay it down, you get this angle of the torch,
and then you get side to side motion for the width,

(01:02:03):
and there's different techniques to that. So you can move
in a U shape of V shape, a side the side,
a circle right, and all of that acts a little
bit different under the hood, and depending on your joint
geometry that you're trying to gouge out, like for example,
if I'm gouging out a filet weld, I love to
use a circle technique where I'm circling into the top

(01:02:24):
of the weld and pulling out out the bottom. So
imagine your art going in a circle down the length
of that weld in like a t joint a soil.

Speaker 1 (01:02:33):
It will cool, right, yeah, man, all good stuff. And
not only is e cibate resource online apparently they have
tons of videos and training courses so forth that you
can dive into and check out. Also, just it really
is a great comedy, great people. As you can tell,
they're out there kind of living it. And uh man,
if if it wasn't for a man sharing them on

(01:02:55):
the trail, he'd been screwed. Uh So they dive in,
so har uh it's it's cool out there doing that
and showing off. You know, everything is available.

Speaker 4 (01:03:06):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:03:07):
Finally, what is what's the future? We looked at AI
in several ways and you know, talking you know with
a lot of people that are using AI for well
just talking to James here, they're using it at full
blown custom in all kinds of ways, which we'll get
into in just a second. Is esop on the forefront

(01:03:28):
of AI, and where do you see the future of
welding robotics and that that type going, especially with the
I don't know the advantageous growth of.

Speaker 7 (01:03:40):
AI right we are we are. We've actually acquired a
few companies now in both robotics and AI software, and
so I've had the privilege to work behind the scenes
with some of those folks all over the world. So
AI is not localized to just just us here. It's
all over the world. So I've got partners now within

(01:04:04):
our family of companies that I get to AI working with.
And so AI AI by itself isn't going to take
your job. The people who know how to use AI
are the people they're going to take next generation jobs.
So when you talk about the future, the future is bright.
I love what I see in the future. I think
we're able to do more, cleaner, more efficient, faster better.

(01:04:29):
Like if you took your hot rods again, like just
in the last twenty years, and you look at how
people used to restore hot rods twenty years ago. Please
don't do it that way anymore, right, don't take your
grinder and your oxy field torch and all that to
your hot rod just by itself and think you're going
to do a great job there. You need to take
your plasma cutter. You need to take your press breaks,

(01:04:49):
you need to take shears, you need to take You know,
there's lots of different methodologies now where you don't create
more problems, you don't create worpage, you don't create you know,
places that are going to corrode right. Pay attention to
all those things. There's much better ways to restore.

Speaker 1 (01:05:06):
Hey, man, I gotta tell you my first My first
patch on that wide body charger was the driver's side
rear quarter. That's the one I went out to first,
because you know, I guess that's when every guy starts at.
But that also was the home of the gas cap.
And I got to tell you, man, one of the
first things I take what it was a patch I
made for that gas cap hole. And I didn't quite understand.

(01:05:28):
I understand people talk about, hey, you get too hot, man,
it's gonna warp this and pull that and blah blah blah.
I got done with that gas cap, man, And I
looked at it and I go, what the I just do?
And I'm I pulled. I got one side of it
so hot, I pulled the turn that just made I
pulled that some bitch flat. I was like, oh man,

(01:05:51):
I got way too much heatd and so then you
had to go and fix that. But yeah, man, that
was the first endeavor.

Speaker 7 (01:05:58):
Now you Yeah, so now imagine imagine AI helping you
make some of those decisions. Right, That's where I see
the future happening. And that's certainly what we're we at
East Auburst making some of our own internal investments. Is like,
there are things we know that are helpful if we
can help an AI agent learn those things, you know,

(01:06:21):
much like a human being would learn it, but an
AI agent truly does learn iteratively on how things work.
Then if you have a responsible AI agent that's going
to give you good information out of it, it'll help
you as an individual doing your own restoration. Right, That's
where I see the future. So in three, four or
five years, dude, there's going to be so many resources

(01:06:42):
now that you can utilize to make your own life better,
to make your welds better, to make your cuts better.

Speaker 2 (01:06:51):
You know.

Speaker 7 (01:06:51):
One of the dreams I have certainly is like I
need to manufacture this. What are the best tools I
should be using to manufacture that. I'm constantly working with
manufactures all over the world, and instead of them just
asking me or just asking some you know, experts that's
been in the industry for thirty four years. I still
have a lot to learn, right, As much as I

(01:07:12):
think I know, dude, I still don't know much, right, right,
learn something.

Speaker 1 (01:07:16):
Like seventeen to know everything?

Speaker 10 (01:07:17):
Man, Like, Yeah, isn't that right?

Speaker 7 (01:07:22):
That's right?

Speaker 2 (01:07:23):
Man?

Speaker 7 (01:07:23):
I was I wish I still knew everything when I
was seventeen.

Speaker 1 (01:07:26):
I was young enough to know everything.

Speaker 7 (01:07:27):
Good, Oh my gosh, Yeah, that's true. So that's that's
where I see AI going. Last, but not least, is robotics.
We do have several opportunities within East four robotics, whether
you're robotically welding or you're doing other things. We have
a wide variety of automation that we offer and that

(01:07:51):
changes the game.

Speaker 5 (01:07:52):
Right.

Speaker 7 (01:07:53):
So the fact that you can have a robot, now
that's called a cobot work right alongside of you. You
can just point here's the beginning of the world, here's
the end of the world. Please welderswimming and use the
best process you know with weave or pulse or whatever,
and you push the button and it does it. It's awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:08:10):
You don't even have to say please you can just
hit command or something. They probably it's crazy, man, wild world.
ESOB is at the forefront. What's the best way for
people to dive in look at some of the stuff
we discussed today?

Speaker 9 (01:08:27):
Is USA or just dot com dot com And no
matter where you're out in the world, it'll take you
to the right country portion of that website.

Speaker 7 (01:08:38):
So if you're over in Europe, it would take you
to the East sub dot com that's in Europe. Same
thing for North America. Here, it'll take you to eastaub
dot com. Right here, Amen, in the United States.

Speaker 1 (01:08:48):
There you go. Man, his name is Chris shermanes S
A B. Is the companyesov dot com a wealth and
knowledge great resource for you by looking at weld you,
plaza cutting, doing any of that. Definitely a company to
check out. And man, they're doing some really cool things.
A battery operated freaking weater that you could take on
some shut the front door. It's awesome. Hey man, thanks

(01:09:09):
for your time, brother, appreciate it. Thanks for the good
saves on the trail. Great, it's great meeting you and
becoming a buddy and a friend, and sure appreciate them all.

Speaker 7 (01:09:19):
Right, Well, it would be you're awesome. Thank you for
all that you do for the community.

Speaker 2 (01:09:23):
Man.

Speaker 7 (01:09:24):
Hearing your stories the community that you have created in Colorado.

Speaker 1 (01:09:29):
Man, it's thank you, bro. You take care all right,
see you all right? All right? James with Full Blottle
Custom in the house. We've got this big day October
twenty fifth. We will tell you about well div into
some cool things. You know, we were speaking with AI
and what it is doing for companies like you know,
like Shirm's there estop. It's two huge and crazy wonderful

(01:09:52):
things and really opening opening different well different avenues and
concepts and applications and everything else. It's also doing it
for companies like James at Full Blown Custom. When you
think about what AI is doing and how it's being incorporated,
it's kind of wild because now a lot of us

(01:10:13):
behind the scenes, but it's inching forward. And man, I
say inching, but it's really it's kind of footing. It's doing,
you know, take a big chunk at a time, and
you know, before you go to break, is there a
day that you you don't use AI in your shop?

Speaker 2 (01:10:31):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (01:10:32):
Yeah, I mean I'm not using it every day, but
it's definitely a problem solver and I'm trying to you know,
I'm trying to learn it as time goes on, because
as I've learned it, uh, you know, it's it's produced
what I've asked, and the better I get using it,
I think it's gonna probably as time goes on, we'll
probably end up using it more and more. There's a

(01:10:52):
bit of a learning curve, but it kind of all
starts with like what's your question and asking the right questions.

Speaker 6 (01:10:58):
Yeah, you're gonna I think.

Speaker 1 (01:10:59):
It's Scoop was even noticed that in some of the
three D printing that he does with his company, you know, Scoop,
scoops dot Com by the way, a little shot out there, Scoop.
But yeah, man, it's uh, it is probably more it's
more based on the person using it than it is
the programs ahead really when you kind of get down

(01:11:20):
to it, how to utilize that. So more of that
in just a minute. More about October twenty fifth, Trunk
or Treat. We'll tell you about that cool car show
to Boot ten twenty five at willy bees Garage. It
is one of seven nine KVPI.

Speaker 2 (01:11:35):
Willibe's garage fell Back in Willybe's garage, some guys will.

Speaker 1 (01:11:42):
Be his garage. Happy Saturday, man, everybody's out there and
joining it. They said on the news seasonably high today,
And now I'm like, I'm not sure they're talking about
the people or the weather. Nah, it's it is. It's
a warmer to day. It's gonna nice.

Speaker 2 (01:11:57):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:11:57):
Get out the hot riders, motorcycles, the trucks, whatever, have
a blast doing so. There's some cool events going on.
Put this event down in your calendar. October twenty fifth.
Last year, I can't remember the date we did it
last year. Do you know the day we did last year?

Speaker 6 (01:12:10):
Think it was right around the twenty fifth, was it.

Speaker 1 (01:12:12):
Yeah, that's pretty cool. Last year we were able to
do this cool trunk or treat and turn it into
you know, a portion of the hand that feeds. We
had Caro Dodge Challenger Club come out and man, those
guys are awesome. Hopefully they'll come out this year too.
But mark October twenty fifth down. We're gonna turn into

(01:12:32):
a trunk or treat for the kids and look fretty
kid out there. You guys. It's the best, especially when
you have car centric families. You know, all of us
hot riders, we hope to hell our kids get into it.
I don't want to force my kid into it. But
you know, as as a new new dad and mix

(01:12:53):
and having a boy, you hope, like hell, your boy
follows follow some of your passions and you know, like
cars and hot rides and wants to build him or
play with him or whatever. I think my boy's heading
down that road. He is significantly now and man, going
to a trunk or treat for him is like the

(01:13:14):
most exciting thing in the world because a he gets
a lot of candy and they don't have to work
too hard for it. But you also get to see
some really amazing cars, cool builds and rides and car
clubs and it's just cool of that. Man, you bring
the kids out, you have some fun, show off your
hot ride. At the same time, make kids happy by

(01:13:34):
doing the chuck or treat thing, making them do a
ring toss or a bloom burst or something like that,
and it becomes an awesome day. So we're playing on
October twenty fifth, So scribble that one down. It's a Saturday,
if I recall. Right, Yeah, so it all begins right
around ten am.

Speaker 6 (01:13:52):
I think it's a good time to start. Tanhil whatever.
You know, stay as long as you want.

Speaker 5 (01:13:56):
We're gonna have a live band out there gone from
about I think from like twelve to three. Have Damon
Woods harmonious drunk playing real bad ass funk.

Speaker 1 (01:14:05):
Uh, harmonious junk.

Speaker 5 (01:14:08):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:14:08):
That's awesome. So yeah, man, mark that one down. It
should be a blast. Bring out your hot ride. Load
up with some nonparisubl food items. We're helping out Den
Rescue mission collecting non persful food items. So great day,
cool event, looking forward to seeing everybody. Uh, that should
be a blast. Your shop especially, I remember that event
last year. People, wow whatever, you know, things you were

(01:14:29):
building and things you were doing. I remember last year
how happy you were and you got that crazy cool
you know, I got this new student suoer machine Willie,
and I'm like, what did you get? You should see
the legs? Yeah, just a map this thing. Uh, he
got some He's got some really amazing equipment down there. Uh,
tell us a little bit about how some of that
equipment is changing how you used to do things compared

(01:14:53):
to how you doing now.

Speaker 5 (01:14:55):
Well, kind of like Sherm was saying, you know, if
we can get a robot to do our job, yeah,
you know, it's you got to learn the robot. But
the robot can make turns and curves and cut things
and do things that you no matter how study of
a hand you have, you can't be doing it.

Speaker 1 (01:15:11):
So let me put it to you like this. It's
wild to watch a machine cut you out of control arm,
you know, or build you a control arm.

Speaker 11 (01:15:21):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:15:21):
You think about that and the stamp steel when you
get from you know, the factories or you know, as
you go up and performance, you will see some you know,
some tubitter control arms. One're made out of you know,
the best stuff, strongest material, alloys. Got cuss, it's well
it all over it blah blah blah. He builds all
that stuff in the house like he does it right there,

(01:15:41):
which is kind of crazy to watch it assist right,
it'll build ends or you know, things that you probably
well never knew could be built just in house at
a local custom otroad shop.

Speaker 6 (01:15:56):
Yeah, it's a it's a problem solver too.

Speaker 5 (01:15:57):
You know, when you're cutting a car apart and build
it all from scratch, you're gonna encounter a lot of problems.
And you know, you can only fabricate yourself so well
until you really start needing some machined components and so
bringing the robots and the CNCs and things of that manner,
and you're really able to solve the problems and make it.

Speaker 1 (01:16:17):
You know, can you give us an example of what
it's done. You were like man Life Saver.

Speaker 5 (01:16:23):
Oh, we did a cantilever rear suspension on this C ten,
So we got a bunch of billet components on that.

Speaker 6 (01:16:29):
On the breaking system. I mean, there's it's it's all throughout.

Speaker 1 (01:16:32):
So it's building through all these cannilever parts.

Speaker 5 (01:16:34):
It's just machining these yeah, bushings and brackets and tabs,
uh all.

Speaker 1 (01:16:39):
And you can imagine having that at your disposal, you know,
where you could custom But it's not like it's a
lot of people are looking at that part and imagining
in their mind that ugly, grotesque looking stamp steel part
that you get from the factory. But these are the
the pieces that look like billy and they're all polished,

(01:17:01):
they're all have those cool dimples in it or you know,
machined edges, and it's just a completely different looking piece
when it's all finished, compared to that ohe stamped out.
You know, they smack a piece of metal with a
bunch of indentions and dimples and you know, structure to it,
and it just rolls off the press like that.

Speaker 6 (01:17:21):
Yeah, you want sick door hinges or hood hinges.

Speaker 5 (01:17:24):
Everybody wants, you know, a billet part here and there,
a little accent piece that's that's helpful. But you know,
custom knuckle assemblies and things of the sort. You're trying
to solve complex suspension geometry issues using factory parts. You
kind of locked into a corner using that. But if
you can design your own and make your own, now
you can operate.

Speaker 1 (01:17:45):
However, you imagine doing your own custom steering knuckle or
suspension knuckles where you could drop you know, say you
wanted a one and three quarter inch drop. You know
you can get a two inch drop, but what if
it's too much, You can get a three inch drop.
You know, you can customize it to whatever you want
that static sands who you want that look to be,
and still have this robust looking piece that looks like

(01:18:06):
something you paid way extra to have machine to have
this big company produced and do and uh, you know
when you slapped it under. These guys are doing it
in the house and they're customizing to whatever the application
is I've seen that seat. That pickup truck is talking
about that see ten or twenty whatever it is, Dude,
that thing is It's ridiculous. Go to their website or

(01:18:28):
their Instagram page. You'll see it.

Speaker 8 (01:18:29):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:18:30):
I mean, the what size rear tires having the back
of you listen to this.

Speaker 6 (01:18:34):
Twenty four by eighteen and a half, they're like three.

Speaker 1 (01:18:37):
Fifty fives or something. Stupid four o fives? Yeah, how
stupid is that four or five tire? I mean, good god, my,
but the wide body charger has a three twenty five
or thirty five, And I was like, who is gonna
have a wider tire than that? It's insane?

Speaker 2 (01:18:55):
What you know?

Speaker 1 (01:18:56):
What you can do nowadays with this this equipment, And
again a lot of it comes down to your learning curve,
was it? That's that's a good question. Was it difficult
to learn? How d Yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:19:09):
Every day's a school day.

Speaker 5 (01:19:10):
I mean, shoot, I got the machine, but I'm by
I'm you know, the machine way out performs what I
can do, you know, And like Shiral.

Speaker 1 (01:19:18):
Say it, it is the more you learn about that machine,
the more that machine can work in your favor.

Speaker 6 (01:19:25):
Yeah, And that's where AI is going to be helpful.

Speaker 5 (01:19:27):
You know, you can feed AI the user manual to
your machine and and start feeding it, you know, CAD
drawings and start having it help you.

Speaker 6 (01:19:38):
You know, right, the CAM write the g code so
that it can you.

Speaker 1 (01:19:41):
Know, so you can just feed your entire instruction manual
into AI. But here it is remember the Matrix scene
where he shoves that thing and killing of Reeve's head.
You know that, right, He's like, oh, well I could
I knew, yeah, I know, kung fu, I could fly
a hell god whatever like man. That can you imagine?
And how quickly and exponentially that could increase your productivity

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because if you could do.

Speaker 5 (01:20:05):
That instant gratification too. I mean we could design a part,
send it off, wait three months for it to come back,
but that's not helpful. I need that part yesterday.

Speaker 1 (01:20:15):
Yeah. And so now you're you're just using that AI
technology to help you understand your equipment more so, therefore
you could.

Speaker 5 (01:20:25):
Create and the science behind it, you know, the metallurgy
or geometry questions or you know, the list goes on.
I constantly got a question in my head and Google
can only take you so far. So AI has been helpful.
It's also lied to me multiple times, so be weary.
It's uh, you might want to ask it for its sources.

Speaker 1 (01:20:45):
Yeah, there is, Uh, there is that. Uh, there was
that one AI program that says Charlie Kirk's Charlie Kirks
assassination was done by a right wing maggot. Dude, it's
still even the AI still to this day, doesn't It
still says that. So there is. There is a lot
of things about AI that depends on how it's been
how what direction has been aimed at. But for things

(01:21:09):
like this and that learning curve, if you're feeding it
your instruction manual, Look, it's the best math machine there
is and when you break it down, it's just math.
If you can understand a little bit more figure out
ways to get it to work for you, you see
how productivity can skyrocket. Imagine making your own steering knuckles

(01:21:29):
and suspension pieces that you know you don't have to
go out of house for and pay a lot of
money for. That in itself is something that that's a
game changer for so many people. Let alone. Yeah, you
can build your own. You know, I need a long
arm travel suspension for my jeep. You can build that
in the house, that'd be nuts man crazy. So a

(01:21:50):
lot of opportunity with these machines, but there is a
price to them. However, the more you're plugging AI into it,
the more productivity growth you'll have. And who knows, man
the sky could be, well, the ceiling kind of endless
at that point. It really depends on whoever knows that

(01:22:12):
owner's man, you know the best, which is kind of
cool man, kind of a cool tool to create with.
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You're back in Willieb's garage.

Speaker 1 (01:27:53):
Y'all have to say that for Breeze commercial. He said
you go from fish to fresh in a matter of spray.
I was like, damn, all right, look you guys, Olivia's garage.
It's about ready to wrap things up. You can join
your Saturday. Let me tell you if you're a family,
if you're aware of a family, if you know anybody
that is really having a difficult struggle when it comes

(01:28:16):
to mobility, being able to move, get to and from,
get their kids to appointments, or elderly parents to appointments
for themselves. Cars for Christmas. We officially opened the portal
for nominations last week, so you can go to Williebefoundation
dot org. You can see kind of what we're doing
as far as some cars. We post up some videos there.

(01:28:37):
But we have opened up for nominations for people to,
you know, tell their stories, share a story about a friend,
a neighbor, of family member, if you're aware, maybe about yourself,
totally okay to nominate yourself, if you're aware of anyone
that is just struggling to get to and from. It's
what Cars for Christmas is all about. It's that time

(01:28:57):
of year to open open up for nominations. We've been
hey me and and all the guys will shout out
to look at I let me tell you again. I
try to emphasize this all the time. If it weren't
for a handful of guys who donate all of their time.
And I'm talking to Scott, Robert, Brian, Chris, you know, Mikey.

(01:29:19):
There's just a lot of these guys, Tommy and Danny.
There's a big friend circle that that does amazing things.
We even got a little clip involved a little bit lately.
So these these guys have really made it just grow
up and you know, become what it is today. Being

(01:29:40):
able to get thirty to forty cars finished and fixed
and done.

Speaker 8 (01:29:44):
Is it is?

Speaker 1 (01:29:46):
Man, It is a task. Oh, you don't have You
have no idea how much work we do on these cars.
We had an Indie and out of car twice, that
stupid pony at Montana minivan. We had to drop it
out twice this year. It's just a big job. And
we man, we're doing turbo right now in a Mini Cooper,
have another one to get cleaned up. And then this
week the TV show I Do You Guys Garage that's

(01:30:07):
on there on weekends on a Motor Treat network. Uh,
it's it's coming in the shoot a two guys garage
episode of cars for Christmas, which is been kind of
a cool blessing too. So get some guys on TV
and they like that, and we get some new T
shirts and and some new tools. He sends a bunch
of tools. So that's always good. But what a job,

(01:30:28):
what a task? What a monumental give?

Speaker 11 (01:30:31):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:30:32):
But that that give when we do it is so
worth it. It makes these guys donate so much of
their time and look me too, nobody's out there more
than me, So it's a blessing. I got a wife
who's allowed me to do it, and the kids understand,
and it's been just an overall blessing. So we get cars.

(01:30:52):
If you're aware of somebody that needs a car, needs riding,
needs mobility. I tend to reach out to the BPF
family first and try to get as many cars as
I can do to help out. So Willibfoundation dot org
Willy spelled w I L l I E. Don't you
dare do it like the fish man, I will come
after you. Williebefoundation dot org. And again man, thanks to

(01:31:15):
thanks everybody involved with it this year. So we'll be
there today working on some cars, getting everything ready for
the TV show coming in in a week.

Speaker 8 (01:31:22):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:31:22):
So my man, James, full blown custom We got October
twenty fifth marked as the Trunk and Treat and the
Big Hand that Feeds Food Drive. That's gonna be a blast.
Store ups Nonparis with food items. James, where do people
find you? Follow you and see some of your crazy work?
And man, we have we got to have another show
where we just talk about what we were off there.

(01:31:44):
There's some cool things they're doing at full Blown Custom.
If you guys need an unbelievable resto shop, you need
some turbos done, you need a crazy cool exhaust or
anything like that, look him up, check him out. See
what they're doing. Things are growing in a quick and
rapid way down there at full blown Custom. That's because
they're doing great cool things. Custom with a K mark

(01:32:07):
that day, October twenty fifth down on the calendar, will
have a full open house where you go check out
some of the cool things are doing. How do people
follow you? Man? If people check you out, see some
more of the wow the wacky things you and the
crew are doing it. Full blown Customers, well.

Speaker 6 (01:32:20):
Most up today.

Speaker 5 (01:32:21):
Check us out on Instagram. Update that you know once
a week or so. Just full blown Customs on Instagram
or our website. You know it's got some good information.
Yeah www dot full blown Customs dot com.

Speaker 1 (01:32:33):
He said, Www. Scoopy s at www.

Speaker 6 (01:32:36):
Do you don't do that anymore?

Speaker 1 (01:32:37):
I don't think so.

Speaker 6 (01:32:38):
Just full blown customer.

Speaker 1 (01:32:39):
TTP whatever www that day for the world wide web,
y'all worldwide?

Speaker 5 (01:32:52):
But yeah, check us out, post up some stories, some
you know, weekly updates on kind of the stuff we
got going on around the shop off all along. We'll
just stop on by say hi, this turns into a
clubhouse sometimes, but it's cool.

Speaker 1 (01:33:04):
I like it. Who knows, man, I might have my
might have the old charger back in there for something
before Seema. I gotta get a console. Bill. I was
trying to get Darnya to help me with that. He's busy. Yeah, man,
that's I think. I'm gonna accept that challenge and try
to dust off the old white body and get it

(01:33:24):
ready for SEMA next year. Seema this year is going
to be crazy. But see these cars and some of
the cool builds are doing, and they have that one
back in there. That'd be amazing. So yeah, man, that's
big news. And you know what, it motivates me to
get it done. So I need that motivation in my
life because kids, man, I got priorities, and unless you
make something just up, I mean absolutely, Like cars for Christmas,

(01:33:47):
we park my stuff and we don't see it again
until after Cars of Christmas. But a Seema invite to
be in a booth, that might be motivation to get
it done. It's a rare opportunity, but when you got
take advantage of it. When it's given, so I'm gonna
try to get that thing rocked and ready.

Speaker 16 (01:34:04):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:34:04):
It will be a blasted drive it. Man, there's no doubt.

Speaker 6 (01:34:06):
A couple less hours of sleep you'll be all right.

Speaker 1 (01:34:08):
Yeah, no, man, get plenty of that when you're dead.
All right, guys, Williebs Garage, let's officially call it done
for the day. You guys, enjoy your afternoon, enjoy your weekend.
Uh and side note, if you guys need anything like well,
just any customized plastic go go to my man scoop

(01:34:28):
scoops dot com. Scoop anything you want to say about
the website, got anything you're working as far as uh,
cool up this weekend? Any cool orders? Nope, not really No,
the printer's open.

Speaker 6 (01:34:37):
If you got an order, I can get it out
this weekend.

Speaker 1 (01:34:39):
There you go. Any specialized concert ticket something kind of cool?
Uh hit him up scoop scoops dot com full blown
custom dot com as well or online Instagram full blown customs.

Speaker 2 (01:34:51):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:34:51):
Great to see you guys, Thanks spending your morning with us.
Will he be these Garage signing out for now. You
guys have a great week and we'll see you bright
and early on Monday. It's one to seven nine kbp I.

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Willyb's garage is now closed until next Saturday morning. Email
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