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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
Hey everybody, this is Darthy de Moss. You're listening to
you All Bets Are Off with Robbie Vegas.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
What's up, rock soldiers. This is the rock star Robbie
Vegas bringing you another brand new episode of the All
Bets Are Off Podcast and our banger of a year
this year on ABAO pod rolls on with Nicole Butler
Vegas no relation. So Nicole is an actress and producer,
and we are going to talk mainly about Desert Fiends
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one and two and Skate to Hell. So these are
great movies and you're probably going to see a lot
more coming from Nicole in the near future, and be
on the lookout for the premieres of Desert Fiends too
and Skate to Hell, as she'll be promoting them in
a red carpet event in Vegas. But she'll also be
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doing Comic Con appearances as well. So let's get Nicole
on the line and start talking some horror movies. Nicole,
thank you so much for being here on the All
Bets Off Podcast. It's so great to see you again.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Thank you so much. Robbie Vegas.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Yes, could we just say real quick, how funny that
was meeting each other, because when I went to shake
your hand and you said Nicole Vegas, and I just
froze and I was like, Robbie Vegas and you just
looked at me, and I was like, no, I'm serious.
I gave you my business.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
So then we'll have to go from there too, because
how did you get that name? And I'd like to
I like that swapping to the stories and all that stuff.
I love that stuff. Robbie Vegas, one Vegas to another Vegas.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Yeah, that's right. But before I get to any stories
about me, I need to hear about you. So let's
start off with something that we started with that conversation
when we met was actually Desert Fiends, and I want
you to just talk about that movie. Let me zoom
in on that real quick. For the people that are watching, maybe.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
It's better with this too, so it's not a lot
of reflection though.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Desert this is the first Fiends, Yes, Desert Fiends Part one,
And why don't you tell us a little bit about
this movie and where people can watch it, and let's
just go through the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Yeah, yeah, so I'll start. In the beginning, Sean C.
Phillips reached out to me less than two years in showbiz,
let me be part of his new projects, which is
Desert Fiends at the time, and I said, if you
come out to Vegas, I'll help you out in every
way possible because he's from California and so you know,
it was my first time being a main producer, and
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as a main producer, you got pretty much where many hats.
This is micro budget. I think we had a campaign
up two hundred thousand and so we were able to
do pretty well. We ended up shooting it for about
two weeks straight. Nelson's ghost Town. We love Nelson's ghost Town.
We just want to say thank you so much. If
you ever come out to Vegas. It's in Searchlight area
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and it just came out on two b two now,
So we had different platforms like Amazon Prime. He knows
all of them too, so you have to go. He
has a page cool Dooder and he also does his
YouTube once a week on Tuesdays, which is really cool.
But I just want to thank Shaun C. Phillips Ethan
Phillips for believing somebody that had less than two years
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in showbiz, I know. But to fast forward we were
able to recently, which we talked about Lauren. She got
cast in the sequel Dozer Fiends too, And I just
want to say, working with new talents that I haven't
worked with before, she was amazing. That charisma, the charisma,
the chrismas she carried, I mean it was it was infectious.
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It was amazing. She was good to everybody and so
easy going and such a natural. So I hope she
likes her seeing her scene is very wild, just to
let you know. It's not for everybody. Horror comedy, but
I love it because it kind of takes away the
seriousness of anything in everyday life. And I like the
creativity behind it. And you can be is gross and
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lude and vile and so many different layers you could
have with any kind of jump scares, terror, the horror
behind everything. I look everything that you could possibly bring
to something, and yeah, that could be spin off from
different films, but you make it your own. And I
love connecting with other people like I connected with you.
I was only there for a little bit though I
had my sister in law, her kids, and my mom.
(04:49):
It wasn't happening. I need to be the longer and
I leaned Deets. I don't know if you met her, Yeah,
and she's like Nicole, where's she goes? Like, I'm actually
on a family vacation. But it was really cool that
I was able to meet you briefly too, Robbie, and
I like that you also have your own uh works
in the show biz and you're you know, if you
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do get to work with us, hopefully you can. We
always we always do films in April. I think we'll
be doing another one still in Vegas, but we could
do them anywhere. So Sean's like Nicole, I don't care
where you move. You can move anywhere. I will go
there and we can make a film together. And that's
pretty cool. I do want to give also a shout
out to Eric Yoder and Monique. They did the special
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effects and I really loved how he stepped up his game.
I mean, the mwans they give you like it's it
has to do with a group of kids going to
a counselor and middle nowhere and they I don't want
to give away what a little bit more extra. These
mutants are very extra.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Your discussion advice on some of this and it was
the first time ever putting anything together. Greviatas Ventures picked
us up for distribution, which was pretty amazing, and everybody
had a good time. And what I loved about it
is that everybody formed like these film family friendships and
they kept on one to work together. And I love
that they just enjoyed everything and they're like, when's it
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coming out? And that The thing is it takes about
I'm gonna say about two years roughly. It takes that
post production and get everything right. It's a long process.
It's it's not overnight, but we get more efficient, just
like with this one, skates Hell. This is a second
feature film that I put together with Sean skate to Hell,
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and it has to do I'm gonna show you what
Eric Yoder made this and Eric Yoder and Monique.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Oh my god, they're cool.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
You love it.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
That's amazing.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Has the one that's like lights up and stuff like that.
This one's a real skateboard. So yeah, I loved it.
I can't wait. We're gonna have a red carpet event
in January, January fifteenth here in Vegas. It's gonna be
they before the days of the Dead. We'll be there
with two tables and we'll have a panel uh to
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introduce our mutants this litterary at the Plaza Hotel through
the Days of the Dead with Bill phil Putt. Uh.
You know, there's a lot of things going on, you know,
there's always something. Sometimes you need to take a little break.
Though I did take a break for a few months.
Everybody's like, hey, what's going on with break? Because you
do you couldn't get burned out? You you know, you
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want to give you want to keep working, and some
people like that. But I like my downtime. I want
to enjoy Disney, like Disney. And that's weird too because
I like Horror, but I also like Disney, and I
know because that happened to a lot of people. It's
really it's just different, I guess with uh the happiest
place all p and then the ones that are slashers
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and the fake blood that squirts it. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Like I've been watching other people that make horn films
and I'm like, I'm waiting for the nothing like it.
I've been like, where is it, Where's where there's it?
Wasn't there is that?
Speaker 3 (08:05):
You know?
Speaker 1 (08:05):
People are looking at me. I'm like, you've got more
exposed to the what I see on set and order
like that, which I love. I love the creativity and
when people could see a finished product and for it
to grow from there. So when we did, we did
Skates to Hell and that's coming out, and I really
love the cut to it. It is an easy flow,
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there's no boring scenes. We made sure everything was very efficient,
and then for we might Sean, I know Sean's out here,
we might be able to finish Desert Fiends a sequel
and just do a little sneak peek at that red
carpet for Skates of Hell.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Oh really?
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Well, okay, so you kind of like all over. No,
you gave me a few great questions to ask you
here because you said that for Desert Fiends one, that
was the first time you were in a producing roles,
that's what you said. So was that always like a
goal of you to be in a producing room?
Speaker 2 (09:01):
No?
Speaker 3 (09:01):
So how did that happen?
Speaker 1 (09:03):
I know that's a that's another thing, So I guess
I should start. I went into show biz in February
of twenty twenty one. I very set. They bumped me,
gave me my first taf Harley. It was a clean lady.
I had no idea. They paired me with this young
guy and I'm like, is this a cougar scene? I
was very confused, Like go to Mark two, go to three.
I didn't know what they're doing. I don't know what
(09:23):
they're saying. Reset Panami, look over here, talk to these
I was like, I don't know what you're doing. It
was a long day. So I started going to acting classes,
I started doing stunts. So what led me into it?
They do a lot of those paid to plates, campaigning
and stuff. I decided to do one nine months into
my career. Didn't go as planned. I didn't get what
I paid for. I want to see what that was about?
(09:45):
Was nine months. So I did commercials and I did
these sad sets, and I learned all the ins and
out in front, but I never knew behind the scenes.
So I guess screwed over was something I was so
held them to come in for. Ye I was like,
I'm going we're not going a certain way. I'm like,
you're done. But back to the being the professional part
(10:07):
that I When Seau gave me that opportunity because he's
gotten burnt too before, and I say, hey, let's work together.
Let's make sure we do things. Buy the books as
much as you possibly can. And we did, and we
did pretty well for our first go around, and then
we did that one that was hard. So we had
nine locations in two weeks. But the producing part, so
(10:30):
we're doing the campaigning and the fundraising and the marketing.
I'm getting the locations down, I'm picking up all the
crafting and the food. We're doing the contracts for the
cast members and the crew. I opened up my house
for the two weeks for the crew to stay with me.
I booked my dogs during that time. It's just a lot.
I had my husband. His name's Kevin greg He didn't
get to meet him, and he helped when he was
working through the Homeland Security airport. He helped get them
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right from that right when they were coming out of
the plane. He grabbed the talent so they wouldn't bother
too much, got their back and it was very efficient
because you know, when you're at the airport, you don't
know where you're going. It's so nice when someone does
get and it's safe and it was good. But we
did the states to help one and that one was
really hard. So I was working full time, plus I
have a family and nine locations out of the two weeks,
(11:17):
I almost lost my damn mind. It was really rough.
It was yeah, and then the sequel one wasn't too bad.
We had pretty much one location, so I was like,
we just do one location because this is it gets
to be a lot because you're loading everything up. We
had so much more help on the sequel though, a
lot more people volunteering, helping out, wanting to learn slate
PA script supervisor. When you do the non union ones,
(11:41):
you really can. There's no rules and some askedag, yes,
you have to have talent, release forms. If you don't
have release forms, crew, release force, property, music, all that,
you could not get distribution. So make sure you have
all that ready. A lot of people don't know all
the layers. They're like, oh, I'll just learn from you.
I said, no, you have you have to go to
the person. And you know there's people that by producer
credits and that's fine too because they're contributing. Producers are
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ones that contribute money. Okay, different levels of producers, you know,
the main producer, executive, producers, associate, assistant, whatever they are.
But you know, when you have the non unions, especially
a micro budget, you were many hats. They're like, oh,
who's that? And I'm like, hi, god, hi, it's me.
Let me change it. I'm like, oh that look at
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it like oh my gosh. But you have to get
done and you have to be efficient and people count
on you. There's a lot of people that take their time, money,
energy to be part of something they believe in. So
you want to give them the best they can.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
So now, as far as you know the movies that
you're making, were you growing up were you always a
horror movie fan or is this something that came with
you were Oh my god's ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
I didn't even know this was meant for me to be. No,
because I started in my forties, I had no idea.
That's when I entered showbiz and idea. I never thought
of it. My life behind before that was quite different.
And uh no, my first movie. I like Polar Guys,
and I like Pumpkinhead and Witchboard and Goolies and Evil
Dead and the Wexworks one too. I was I loved
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going to those haunted houses when I was little, you know,
I just I liked being scared or or the creativity
behind it, So I guess it is meant to be.
I guess even though when you doubt, you know, when
you start something, you can doubt yourself a lot. You know,
like maybe is that for me? This is and then
something else opens up. I'm like, okay, let me try this,
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and then you're like, oh, maybe I should stop, and
then something else. So it kind of like wheels you
in a lot. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
Yeah, So what was the first role that you actually
like landed as as an actress, like where you were like,
nailed it, got it and then you know.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
So there's a couple of things for back on the
strip they gave they liked my look, so you have
a look they like, or you got a mixture of
talent which I did. Okay, now very different, or you know,
you can have that energy, that charisma that they like too.
As long as they can give you redirection, they don't care.
(14:10):
My first I only have one line and it was
back on the strip with Kevin Hurt. It was a
very small scene, but they took it out.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
They took it.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Out and oh yeah, and you've seen the featured I'm
in the trail. I'm like, what is this garbage? I
was like, I was so mad and but I was
non union. I'm sad now Sax and September. I guess
if you get three tap Hardley's you can't there's something
you can't go on to Saxe. But I think you
kind of right to work state. You know, there's a
lot of these little, uh loopholes you gotta figure out
(14:39):
on the show biz. There's a lot of layers that
you're like, hm, oh is that so? You know, like
you got to figure things out. But what I do,
uh Power of Attorney. I auditioned for that. It's a
TV series as a principal role and a monkey bit me.
So when I did the audition, I had like this
fake monkey bite and they liked it. They're like a
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because you know, it's better when even though this is
supposed to be a visual thing in the creativity, they
can't visualize it unless you show them. You have to
show them that you are that character but more with
a little bit of your twists. And you can't be
afraid to have a little bit of you at all.
You have to have you in it. And sometimes you
(15:21):
gotta be careful not get caught acting because you know
it's not really organic. You get catch yourself and you're like,
oh man, you know we do that again. You had
those go oh that's fine and you see it like oh,
like's like, no, why is it showed film? It's forever
on film and the things that I never want people
to see the light of day, they showed it. I
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was like, no, not that. People are like, hey, like
Neil Breen. People are Neil Breen fans. And I was
on his I think the first year and a half
I was in show biz. I'm in four and a half,
four and a half years now in the show biz.
And I was like no, and uh like that. He
was like that's Nicole. Yeah, that's the Cold Vegas and
I'm the Cold Butler. But now it's mixed now, No,
(16:04):
Cole Butler is a producer, us is the actress. That's
my saying. Very confusing, but so people don't know what
I'm They're saying Nicole Butler like they know Nicole Vegas
or Nicle Butler.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
Okay, yeah, interesting. Interesting. So I want to point out
one other thing about Desert Fiends, because we talked about
you being, you know, the producer, but you were also
acting in Desert Finds, so hard.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
I have tiger rehearsal, you know, you get in there
and uh. The thing that's hard too, though, is there
a lot of people that there were some scenes that
I didn't realize that we're nervous and it was like
already too, I didn't know until and they could they
couldn't like and so like I talked to Sean about
doing redirecting. Maybe they get tight tongue tied and they
need different words or improv anything anything like I was like, so,
(16:54):
you know, sometimes it's not even if you're prepared, people
might not be in stepping over your lines or they're
getting very nervous, Like, no, you got this, but yeah, acting,
I had my son in it. My son, they called
him Junior. He got his head knocked off. He was
(17:15):
a bad kid. Actually casts Junior in all of Sean's
film so far. Really he's a very bad kid. So
if you watch Desert Fiends, he's the one given his
mom problem, which is me like, oh, you were so natural.
So no, I was really done with him. I was like,
you're get it, that car black guy, you know, but
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he did really well. You know, I think a lot
of people that have anxiety or other things going on
I think acting would be good for them. It channels
their their feelings into a character, so they don't have
to think about so much the moment, but in their character.
If if they if they do the character development, or
if they get an acting coach. I think I feel
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that you know more tools in a toolbox, so don't
be afraid. I think to learn it all in front
and behind the scenes, just like you're doing a podcast.
I see you. You're at conventions. Do it all, don't. Yeah,
it's gonna be a little intimidating because you're not aware,
you're not familiar. But little by little, you know, you
work hard and you it's some good credibility.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
Yeah. Absolutely, And you kind of just led me into
my next question, which was do you prefer to be
in front of or behind the camera.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
It's easier, it's so much easier to be in front.
So I just think about me the scene, breaking down
the scenes, and my character development history with the people.
As a producer, you are constantly putting out fires, taking
care of business. It's it's NonStop. You don't really have
just you like when you're a talent, you can kind
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of get pampered. Giving the pampering and so I mean,
you know, when I talk to other newer filmmakers, I
tell them, when you have name talent, make sure that
they have their own room. When you pick them up,
make sure you have somebody picking up from the airport.
And when you take them to set, make sure you
have some food for them. I don't care if they
say they're a hungry all of a sudden they get hungry.
(19:10):
There's always food to snacks. But give them a meal
right there, and then let them go over their lines,
get their hair makeup without anybody want to take pictures.
I ask people, you know, during lunch break, is it okay?
You know you guys ate if you go down and
say hi to everybody else? And they love that because
instead of them trying to take pictures when they're doing
a scene, they don't look at you as fans. They
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look at you as a co worker. So you do
have to learn to maintain that professionalism, especially when you're
right to be able to do a scene, they're like oh,
breaking out their camera Like no, no, yeah. There's just
a lot of protocols that I think if people don't
share and don't talk about it, how are they going
to do better? If they don't know ways to do better,
and you know, I feel that's really important.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Now, you said you've been doing this for four and
a half years, right, Yes, it seems you. You have
accomplished a lot in a short period of time. So
what was your What was like that final push to
get into show business in the first place.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Oh, when I first started, I did a lot of
nonprofits throughout the years here in Vegas, and I figured
that show buzin would build a platform, which is very hard.
I just thought it'd be easy. I was thinking to
build a platform and connect to other people, and I
have done that. I found out so many people and
so many giving them so many resources and tips. They
have to do the work, though. I can't do all
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the work for people, and some people you'll do all
the work. They'll try to take the crime, like, oh,
I tell how you did that? Please, But I'd like
doing the connections. But at the same time, I've had
a lot of people then reach out like can you
help me, And I said, well, what work have you done?
They haven't done any work yet. That means I'll do
their work on top of my work. I can't do that,
I said, I said, find out casting directors in your area.
(20:51):
You could do non unions, you could do shorts. It's
gonna be really hard for you to do a feature
film and ask people to donate money in campaigning if
you have, I think to show who are you? What
have you done? And there's a lot of summers like
look at what I'm doing on this, and then you
type it in you can't google, there's no real credits.
I'm like, oh, okay that I'll follow up with a
(21:14):
question and they can't answer it. I was like, you
just become more aware, and it can be a little
discouraging because when I started, I was like, oh this
is and now I'm more careful what I approach anybody
that's coming to me a director or a filmmaker that
wants me to help them or sean be part of something,
because we have to be careful because you can get
(21:37):
used and abused and you know how show biz can be.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Yeah. Absolutely, Well, okay, so I'm going to take a
quick break from your career because this is the part
of the podcast where we do the Lightning Round, which
is just this or that series of questions for people
to get to know you. And the first question as
always is. Do you prefer Chicago or New York style
pizza York? How about do you prefer dinner or dessert?
(22:05):
Dessert chocolate or vanilla chocolate?
Speaker 1 (22:10):
I guess I eat both. I could, but chocolate.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
How about poison or Motley Crue.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Motley.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
You sounded conflicted there for a second.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
I mean in both. I don't know, it depends with
my mood.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
All right, fair, all right, So here's here's going to
be a good series for you. Because you're a horror
movie fan. Do you prefer Friday the thirteenth, the original
or the original Halloween?
Speaker 1 (22:36):
I like the Friday the thirteenth?
Speaker 3 (22:38):
All right? Now, how about do you prefer Dracula or Frankenstein.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Dracula?
Speaker 3 (22:46):
What about Chucky or the Leprechaun Chucky? All right? Sorry,
all right. So let's pretend you're going through the Bermuda
Triangle and you're superstitition. Are you on a boat or
are you on a plane? Why? Oh?
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Barn it? Oh, I don't know that. It was a
very conflicting question because the boat would I could probably
swim ashore, but get ate, and plane I could definitely die.
So I'll just say boat.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
All right, So how about favorite movie of all time?
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Mine is polar Geist. I always has been. I got
to work with all of our robins too. It was
greatly he did He's in Skates to Hell?
Speaker 3 (23:29):
Really? All right? Well we got to plug that one
more time here, Well, I say one more time, but
we'll do like five more. How about favorite TV show?
Speaker 1 (23:40):
Oh my gosh, I don't have anymore. I used to.
I don't have anymore. I think Grim. I liked Grim.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
Okay, good one. And how about growing up? What was
your favorite cartoon?
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Oh my gosh, running Simpy?
Speaker 3 (23:57):
Could that explains your humors? All right? All right, so
let's get back to you in your career. So you
were just mentioning Skates to Hell again. So I want
to talk about it one more time because before I
get you out of here, I just want you to
tell everybody what they can expect from it once more
and where they're going to be able to watch it.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
So for Skates Hell, once it gets finished, we're going
to do the red carpet event January fifteenth, the day
before the Days of the Dead, at the Plaza Hotel
here in Vegas. Maybe I'll see you there for Skate
to Hell. Now, Guthrie's working on the sound and we
I mean we had a named some of the people
that we have in there, absolutely, Robert Jenna, Jamison, Robert Carodine,
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James DeValve Ur, Lozardo's Specive Wrestling, Todd Bridges, Oliver Robbins. Well,
I got a whole bunch in here. They were great too,
They were such Lisa Wilcox, Brett Wagner, Scottie Schwartz, Douglas Tate,
Aileen deetz lea Gorse from Terrifier two. Mason Mason was
(25:01):
a child, his star in the seventies. He is like
maybe four foot but that high vibration very really magnetic.
I love that. You know, a lot of Lee Weidell,
the original ghost Face, Carl Solomon. There's a lot of
people they're ewing from troll And I like about them
(25:22):
is they did a lot of Easter eggs in this one,
so very cool with the nunchucks and uh, the way
they wipe the Nike from the screen, Like I love
that stuff. And they go do those little Easter eggs
and little.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
Saying so yeah, and you know what, horror fans go
nuts over that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
They could I'm sure they can point it out like yeah,
just like Alia Robbins is like I hate static, like
he has some dialogue in there, you know. So, Uh,
I thought it was pretty cool. I'm so glad I
got to work with him. I hope I get to
work with him again. I know he's a filmmaker.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
You should have. Oh, I would absolutely love to. That
sounds like a blast. Let's get back to Desert Fines
one and two real quick, because I just want to
reiterate that you could watch Desert Fines right now on
to be Yes or Amazon.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
You can. There's a whole bunch will be like the call.
I just told you what they were, but if you
type in Desert Fines, they'll pull up what it's on
and to be it's free, so that's you know, people
like free if I it just it just got released
on two B and a couple other ones off Indego. Uh,
there's a whole list. I don't want to thank Gravitage
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Ventures for working with us. It's the first time we
got distribution for the first film. We'll see what we
do for the second one, skates Hell, and then the
next will be the sequel to Desert Fiends, which is
it's more disgusting. I don't know there rates be a
world record for something getting ripped off a lot. I
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could support it. So this is that. Sean C. Phillips
is the director and Ethan Phillips is the writer for
the Desert Fine Too and Desert Things and what else
was there? Oh yeah, I gotta show that I showed this.
This is Eric Yoder's work when my hair was super blonde.
Her name is Janine. She didn't, she didn't. She didn't
last too long though. Look at that.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
Yeah. So for the people that are not watching but
are just listening, Uh, Nicole is actually holding up her
own severed head.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
I know she did not make it. She encountered the
Ahole mutant again once again. He ended her. He always
takes from her, even in the first Desert Themes. She
she gets beat up a lot and she's done. But
you know, we did a paradigm too with Sean and
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I like a like a different reality of how we
would be. So that's fun too, isn't it? Like get
to challenge yourself? Like I was like, wait a minute,
what so? Uh No, I think I'm not sure what
the next one is gonna be. He started talking about it.
We'll be doing a campaign in January of twenty twenty six.
I'm will probaly filed in April in Vegas as far
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as I know. So if I am moving, I moved
to Orlando. So they're like, I gonna change your name
to Nicole Orlando. I was like, I don't know if
you get that or not, or I don't. It's like, no,
I'm gonna keeping it in Nicole Vegas. And that's how
it goes. But there's a lot of connections there. There's
a lot of filmmakers, there's a lot of podcasts that
are reaching out to me because they know I'm coming
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out that way. So I'm excited, but it's a lot
of work right now. I'm still in Vegas.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
Well, hey, I'm in New York, so.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Well Robbie Vegas. And does I gonna give you gree
for your vengeus? Oh? They do. So I was like,
I have like the random like questions throughout the day.
I'm like, I was gonna have time for this. I
gotta clean out my garage and stage my house and well,
but I'm excited. I mean, do you is that the
only conventions you've gone to? Is the only one in
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Buffalo or No.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
I've done them in Pennsylvania and New Jersey as well.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
So I've done that. Maybe I will if we do
enough and we get invited and people like it. I
just want to say thanks Sabille phil Putt for inviting
us to have a panel for the Desert fend so
the Fiends can get meeting the guests, the people that
are there at these uh you know these conventions that
are amazing. You get to really connect and have fun
unless you're with family that don't want to stay long.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
Yeah, well we can. We're going to do another shout
out to Desert Fiendes too, real quick because in October
in Buffalo, the Nickel City con is doing a two
day event and Lauren Marie Taylor uh will be there.
So we're going to give her a quick shout out
because she is in Desert Fiends too, and you guys
are going to love that.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
So that's about I'm going to read a couple of
the people that are Yeah, I mean she was fantastic.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
Oh she's so great.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
I didn't know, Like she's like she called me and
she's like she's messaging me and saying like, oh I
would have came there. If I would have known, I'm like, well,
I didn't really know. We didn't know. It wasn't it
wasn't really planned out. We have again, Eric Roberts and
Vanessa Angel, Robert Carting, Ginger, Lynn, Robert Lozardo, Martin Cleva,
James de Bello, Kansas Bolan's a whole bunch. I'm making
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the list Hole Lauren Marie Taylor, Brett Wagner, Douglas Tate,
Mark Togel. I don't know if you know him from
a Toxic.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
Avenger, Toxic Avenger's.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Kato' Kalen, Carl Suliman. I enjoy him so much. Just
a lot of people. We had how many people that
we have on this one? We had one hundred and ninety.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
Cast oh wow, And the first of all we had two.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Hundred and twenty.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
So that is wild.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Even though people are like, oh, it's an indie, it's
a small it's not small. Ours are not small, like
uh not this time around, but maybe the next one
if we get bigger investors, which we seem to be doing,
I would love to do like a five and our
k sag. Yes, it's a lot of people and there's
protocols but it's it's it's growing as an injury in
a you know, as a whole scene. If you can
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do something, can you make it better? But at the
same time, I've known people that put millions and they
had big names and it flopped like six thousand at
the box office. So even if you do everything right
doesn't mean it's still not going to flop. So there's
a lot of risk first rewards in this.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
Yeah, absolutely, I for sure. So before I get you
out of here, I want you to one, if there's
any anything upcoming that you want to plug that we
didn't get to, please do it now. And two, I
want you to tell people where they could find you
and follow you on social media so they could keep
up with all of your craziness.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
There's always something going on. Well, I shared a lot.
I was in Marriage Bites and Clown Hotel, Three Ways
of Hell, Saber Sparkles that's coming out. There's going to
be a red carpet event in October, and La Elliott Whoree,
but that's not going to be finished to next year. Okay,
there's a list, But I just want to say thank
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you so much for taking the time, especially when you
do I was like, I'm moving. It's really far a moving,
but I'm moving out of here for real this time. Yes,
but uh no, I can't wait to hopefully see you
at a convention a little bit longer, maybe have a
table there with Sean and a couple of the talents
and you know, a little bit more behind the scenes
(32:22):
so I could put something together. But I was I
was very rush that day.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
Yeah, I know it was. It was great to meet you,
and I wish you weren't so rush, but you know,
who knows. Maybe we'll even end up working together sometime,
or if you ever need any music.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
You know, we do always need music. So once I
get situated in Florida, I can more dive into everything
that you've done. And I know you're working hard and
you're growing and you're making connections, and I love that.
I love people that work hard, not the ones that
are like, what can you do for me? Give me something,
and they don't. You have talent, you have ambition, charisma,
and I loved when I met you. You are very kind.
(32:59):
You're like, who are you? I don't know who am I?
But I know a lot of people. When I was there,
somebody was talking about Desert Fiends. My sister in law
was like, hey, Nicole, someone say so, it's just building
and then connecting to people that know and get it
and it makes that movie magic. It really, it really
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expands so much and being part of something like that
and seeing it from the beginning, having somebody give me
an opportunity like Sean because she has been in this
for like eighteen years, Yeah you trust Would you come
up to somebody that's maybe almost two years into show
business say hey, I trust you? Well?
Speaker 3 (33:40):
Yeah, that takes a lot because as a wrestler who's
been wrestling for fifteen years, when you say to me,
you're going to be working with this kid who's been
around for two years, there's a pause there where you're like, what, Yeah,
So I treat him to.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
A VIP at Disney. We did the cast member experienced
him and his mom came. They hit by their tickets
to be IP part and you know, I talked about that.
I was like, how come I would never what made
you think? He goes, well, I saw you on the
other sets and go yeah, but that that's a little
bit of work. This is the whole deal, And you know,
it is trusting because if something happened, I wouldn't want
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I wouldn't let him failed. Like we started forming teams
like coming in Joel Callison and we had on the
desert themes too. John Swingo stepped in. He was one
of the big investors. We had some good people that
really cared. Garmo uh, John Nacuna, Josh Browning, a lot
of people that stepped up and worked long hours volunteering,
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helping out, learning the craft and pulled together. So it
speaks volumes. So I hope that everything goes well for
the sequel and people really get to enjoy the comedy
and the goofiness that you know, and horror to you're like,
but it's it's it's all on one, you know, And
you have to be able to have fun, not just
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always have something serious, because I like something that looks
a little serious, but then it's it's not so serious.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
Yeah. Absolutely, And I hope everybody watches the first one
and because they can right now, and then of course
be excited for the second one. And is it true
because I'm looking at your IMDb while we're doing this
and it says you have thirteen upcoming credits? Is that
is that accurate?
Speaker 1 (35:22):
Thirteen upcoming ones.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
That's what it says.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
I don't know both likely. Let me look what are
you looking at? Exactly what's the same it is credits.
Let's look at exactly what they are so I can.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
Is it okay if I just run down the list
real quick?
Speaker 2 (35:36):
Sure?
Speaker 3 (35:37):
So it's it, says Clown Motel, Three Ways to Hell,
Savor Sparkles, The Trouble, The Trouble with Billy.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
Yeah, I was a student and that that should be
out really soon. That was a sague. Billy mcannara was on. Uh,
he's a he's a good actor and a good coach.
He was the copycat with Thegoeny Weaver star.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
Of course Desert Finds too, which we talked about Alien Horde,
which you also which is talking about earlier.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
I co started that. That was my favorite set.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
I really like her, Yeah I do. It was fantastic
and we filmed that in October in LA for two weeks.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
Oh wow. Skate to Hell is also on here of course,
a toy maker.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
That's not until November, and he's still doing campaign stuff
like that. His first feature filming put together is called
Six Wheels from Hell. It's out on two be check
it out. What is his of An Alan? He's in
Florida right now too, so he'll be filming with Mark
Bakka and they do stunts like they're cars going through
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buildings and explosions and catching on fire.
Speaker 3 (36:40):
Wow, okay, who doesn't want that? Well, so far this
is this is accurate. You're saying yes to everything. So
next we have marriage bites.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
Yes. I did a small little cameo for a day
in Alabama and that was in November with Sean.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
We got to go buddies, all right? Pay to Die?
Speaker 1 (36:59):
Pay to Die? Yes?
Speaker 3 (37:00):
Who was I in that?
Speaker 1 (37:01):
I know? You know? Yes, hopefully that comes out. And
I had I think like a co star supporting role
with Jeff Richards and he did sn L. He's really
good that. I think that's coming out pretty soon. It's
been in the work for like three years, so a
little behind the scenes difficulties with some people. So hopefully
(37:22):
that gets taking care of.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
Yes, all right, A little story A little no, I
never I.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
Got never seen an it's a short film.
Speaker 3 (37:31):
Who knows, that's what it says. It's in post production.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
And you played Mona, Yeah I did, and she travels
back in time and it was really hot in the desert.
It was at waters underneath it was rock don't don't
film in the desert.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
It says you were also in Swamp Squatch.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
That's still the making. That's Brandon Crumb and he's in Florida.
So we'll touch base once I get there, Like, come on,
let's do this.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
This next one, this next one piqued my interest just
from the name of it. Mistletoe Massacre.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
Yes, that was a crazy one. That was a second film.
I was, uh that Sean and Lorne worked on, and uh,
it's still not out, but it has like Tom size
More and a couple other people that kind of passed
away now.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
So okay soon yeah. And then Surfer Girl, I.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
Had, uh, like a in the beginning, I'm doing an interview,
so I already I already did my scenes, so I
don't know if they're whatever. They're doing my scenes. If
you go on there, it'll show it. Okay, I've seen
for this film.
Speaker 3 (38:34):
And the last one that it says you have upcoming
is called Compatible.
Speaker 1 (38:39):
Oh that's us a small scene as a nine to
one one dispatcher.
Speaker 3 (38:42):
So this is pretty accurate because all thirteen of these
you did work in I did.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
And then there's a TV series too, so, uh, where
was that one? See Absolute Dominion? I got on credited
I don't know what. And then what's another one that
I reloaded too? That was really good? Al Martinez had
dark hair, I had my gown all tough like that.
And then back in the street man, I wish it
(39:09):
would have kept my dialogue. It was so funny. Okay,
the tortured crossing that's with that was I co started
and it's crazy, you know. However, Yeah, there's I mean
some I took off though, I mean I might, I
might give it a little bit of time, but if
they never finish it, I don't want it on there
because they don't end up and it looks really weird.
And then Power of Attorney if you do see it,
(39:31):
I'm on season two episode I guess one. I'ma Watson.
So they were cracking up, so I was like you,
I was like all upset, and uh the Durors, you know,
they're all biting had laughing. You know how hard it
is to be in that moment where they're laughing. I
was like, oh, I'm trying to think if there's anything
else c S I they background detective and that's when
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I first started. I didn't know better. You know the addition,
I'm in that and it's not to be U the Magician,
and it's gone live. It's pretty cool. I just saw
him for a birthday party for our rescue. I'm on
two episodes. Oh wow, yeah, Paradise, and I think that's
almost it. But yeah, that's about four and a half
(40:14):
years of crazy. Well let's start about a lot, because
you have to from what I learned, if they can
show they had nothing come out, I don't want to
say yes to something. Even if you get paid, it
doesn't matter. I'd rather not get paid and have something
come out because it shows nothing. Then I have nothing
to show except that there's pictures behind the scenes, and
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that doesn't count for me. I love when there's completed work.
Speaker 3 (40:40):
Oh no, I totally understand that podcast.
Speaker 1 (40:44):
It's arrange. I'm not. You know. Nothing's worse for me
than people say be careful to be typecast. So if
you could ever play a creature and you do it,
or a killer, I'd rather be a killer like Sailor Sparkles.
If you look her up, she's not nice. She doesn't
play nice. She's not nice to the cowboys. They don't survive,
you know, they all get done, you know, but it's fun,
(41:05):
you know. I like. I mean, I don't like the makeup.
The makeup is Robbie all white. Every day I touch is.
You can tell everywhere I ben everyone white. But I
like learning, Like in stunt training, I went with Alan Woodman,
and you know, when you're touching you you start back
there because the show's better that way. Or if someone
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grab your hair, I held on to it, it's me
controlling it. And I know you learn those techniques in wrestling,
so it makes it more believablecause no one wants to
get hurt. We don't want to get hurt, especially when
we get older. We don't want to. It's hurt for life.
Speaker 3 (41:37):
Now it is certain, you're not kidding, You're not kidding. Now.
I'm gonna go watch Desert Fiends after we're done here.
But I want you to tell everybody where to follow you.
Speaker 1 (41:49):
You can follow me. I'm mostly on Facebook, so to
co Butler Vegas. I'm also on Instagram, same thing, the
Cole Butler. I change everything to col Butler Vegas and
make it really easy. You can also follow Cool Duder
Shaun C. Phillips. If you're insted of seeing the work
he's going to be doing, you know, a director, writer.
There's just a lot of ways to stay connected. And
there's a lot of good filmmakers. So if you are
interested in being part of film, you could be cast,
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or you could they do those pay to plays where
you actually get killed by somebody. Maybe it's like something
you always wanted to do. Make sure that they're legit,
like look up and do your homework to make sure
that they get distribution. And there's good, credible people.
Speaker 3 (42:26):
All right, Nicole, this was so much fun and you're
you have so much energy, and I don't know how.
Speaker 1 (42:31):
I don't feel like it.
Speaker 3 (42:33):
I can't.
Speaker 1 (42:34):
I'm like, I'm not gonna make it. I have somebody
coming at seven o'clock in the morning tomorrow to see
the house, so I'm tired.
Speaker 3 (42:42):
Well, I appreciate you taking the time to do this,
even with your busy schedule. And you know, of course,
whenever something else is going on, you're welcome to come
back and let's talk about it and promote it and
and you know, just hit me up and let's do it.
Speaker 1 (42:53):
Yes, I would like to connect and see who else
would want, if you don't mind, bring a couple other
people on, you know, mainly like Sean maybe he's probably
just Sean now because his brother's not really in the
public eye. And then a couple other the main talents.
I would love that, like Brett Wagner or leeoy Dell
or somebody.
Speaker 3 (43:10):
I would love that. And I have had Brett on
the show a couple of times and he is a blast,
so I would love to have him on with you
and just to put this movie over and talk about it.
So please, when you're ready, let's do it, all right,
Rockers Once again Nicole Butler Vegas, and make sure you
follow her on Instagram and look for the release of
Desert Fiends two and Skate to Hell and watch Desert
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Finds one on two b or Amazon Prime, and we
will catch you next time on the All Bets Are
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