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August 5, 2026 • 19 mins
Funk legend Bootsy Collins has teamed up with Buckethead, Robert Truilljo, Billy Sheehan and more to create "Metal Health," a guitar-heavy rock album with a focus on your mental health. As I shift from radio producer to podcast host, we're joined by Bootsy and his wife, Patti, for an important (and fun!) conversation.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's not just foot Bucket and myself.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
We all feel the same and we want to get
this purpose out.

Speaker 3 (00:11):
All right, who's next, you ask? I guess it's me.
I'm your Yeah, it's funny. Hey Peppermin Patty, and hey
Bootsy Collins. We've been on the phone for two hours,
but I don't think we actually I've introduced myself as
your tour producer, right right, So I whatever, and I'm

(00:34):
sure you don't remember, uh, And I don't blame you
for it. Back in COVID Times, which seems a long ago,
you were on the podcast. You were talking about your
project Stars.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
Right okay, and there.

Speaker 3 (00:46):
I just had an opportunity to talk to you for
ten minutes. But this was a whole entire. I don't know.
I was witnessing and listening to Bootsy Collins interviews for
two hours and I was so and Patty, I'm caltivated,
like it's not enough. So I know, I only I'm
not going to keep you here for much longer selfishly,
so I appreciate any time with you, with you all, thank.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
You, thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:08):
I had to get that out. I wish you could
see the story behind what's happening. I told Patty once
we got on started with stations. I have a three
year old in the back. He's on the couch right
now with just watching TV. Hopefully you don't hear it,
but and this will be the segue into everything. Look,
what's what's going on over here? I got buckets us.

(01:35):
That's my transition so obviously to Buckehead. And last time,
you gave us a brief story about how you first met. Uh,
we'll get into that the new album mental Health, talking
about my secondary theme mental health. But most importantly, if
you don't mind, how did you and Patty meet? I
think that's the most important thing. It's hearing the relationship

(01:56):
between you two. If no one's ever asked you to
do a radio show, I'm asking you to do a
radio show. Both of you. The wow, it's just the
rapport you have your voices. So, uh, how did you
consider radio? Consider doing a podcast? Please?

Speaker 1 (02:11):
Wow? That's the sweet she remembers more so than I do.
Go ahead, I think far.

Speaker 4 (02:19):
My favorite part is your three year old on the
couch watching of the shot.

Speaker 5 (02:24):
I have not heard of peep out of your career.
Three year old.

Speaker 3 (02:26):
Oh man. We were changing stations, going from one to another,
and he's screaming because he the foam we had, like
some toy foam that he found. I'm like, oh great,
it'll occupy him while I'm about to interview Bootsy Collins.
This is more for the fourth wall breaking. He got
so upset it didn't form like Plato, so every time
he would break apart, he would freak out. I'm like,
that's just what it does. I'm like, oh no, I'm

(02:48):
like hoping that the mike Mike, Mike doesn't bleed through
even though the fader's down. So a lot was going on.
But in my eagerness to talk to both of you.

Speaker 5 (02:58):
Control Yeah, you're handling and that is so sweet. I
love that.

Speaker 4 (03:02):
Well, how did we meet? So it was actually at
the gym. There was a place called Living Well and
there were two sides. One was for female and one
was for men. So I was at the time an
aerobic instructor, so I was teaching aerobics on the women's
side and Bootsy was working out on the men's side.

Speaker 5 (03:22):
And my boss, his name was Tim.

Speaker 4 (03:26):
He went to Boutsy and said, you know, you're going
to want to meet this girl, and BOUTSI from what
I recollect was like, nah, I'm not here to meet
women right now.

Speaker 5 (03:38):
I just want to.

Speaker 4 (03:39):
Work out trying to get away from trying to get
away from them, right.

Speaker 5 (03:42):
And then so Bootsy finally, I guess she finally gave in, right.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (03:48):
Well, but before that, right he came to me, Tim
said my.

Speaker 5 (03:54):
Boss and said, I got this guy on the other side.

Speaker 2 (03:57):
No, he actually snuck over there. He didn't even tell
me he was going.

Speaker 5 (04:01):
I didn't tell you.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
Yeah, he didn't tell me he was going. He was
He was like, you know, you got to meet him
so bad, I'm not going to even tell you. I'm
going going with the teller. So when I looked up
you over there, right, but he was trying to get
me to go meet Bootsy, and I was like, you
know what, I am just done with men right now.

(04:23):
I'm not interested. And he said, I'm telling you you're
going to want to meet this guy. And I said, well,
what's his name? And he said William. So finally I
gave in and I said, well, bring him over here,
and he.

Speaker 4 (04:34):
Said, no, you're gonna have to go to him. I said,
you've got to be kidding me. I said, my mama
did not raise me like that, but I gave in.

Speaker 5 (04:42):
I gave in.

Speaker 4 (04:43):
So I went over and I met him and I said,
so hello, and I said, my boss said your name
is William, right, and he said yeah, and I said one,
nice to meet you.

Speaker 5 (04:56):
And then he said to me, you don't know who
I am, do you. I said, well, you said your
name is.

Speaker 4 (05:02):
William and he said, yeah, my name is Bootsy and
I was like, well, what's a Bootsy?

Speaker 1 (05:09):
Was just done?

Speaker 2 (05:11):
Right?

Speaker 4 (05:12):
So it turns out, you know, I gave you my
phone number, I think, and he called me. A couple
of weeks later we went for a bike ride and
I still remember saying to him, do you want me
to call you William or Bootsy?

Speaker 5 (05:26):
So, in other words, I did not know who he was.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
I just I love that William.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
For me, that was the key, because I was looking
for a girl that didn't know who I.

Speaker 5 (05:36):
Was, and I didn't know who he was.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
She really didn't, She wasn't playing, she really didn't know
who I was.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
And I loved that fact. I do.

Speaker 3 (05:46):
I love that fact too. You know this will segue
into everything as well. My I wish it was as
romantic as your story, but I guess in the modern age.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
My wife.

Speaker 3 (05:57):
My wife and I just met on a dating app,
but I finally I didn't want to do it for
years and years and years. And this will bleed into
the mental health conversation as well. But it's she's for
our first date. I don't know, we just I showed
her like it's the radio station. I recorded a podcast episode,
so she always knew me as Brando. I have to
tell it not to call me Brando because I'm just

(06:18):
not that, you know. I don't feel as cool, you know,
if I was boutsy, you know, but other people tell
me you're as cool. I'm like, all right, fine, I
accept the brand. So this bleeds because I'm so excited.
I actually tried to reach out to you guys before
doing this radio tour. So I'm somehow my podcast met
job the announcement with with Buckethead, because last time you

(06:42):
were on, you talked about how you met Bucket he
was a little kid sending in a tape in like
eighty nine ninety something like that.

Speaker 1 (06:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (06:48):
But the mental health conversation, I talk about that so often.
I talk about my going to therapy and being on medication,
family members and friends that I've lost to depression. Yeah,
where did it stem from? And because Bucket had seen
I know there are others, of course, Jennifer Batten on
the record, but what with Buckett had made this the
right record?

Speaker 1 (07:10):
Well, I think because.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
I think because he is kind of still going through it,
and you know, every time we talk, we go to
it to try to ease each other's you know, mine
about you know, this is still happening to us, you know,

(07:39):
and so whenever I'm talking to him, you know, it
kind of reminds me of we still ain't out of
you know, we still are not really well, you know,
and so we probably will.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
Never be well.

Speaker 2 (07:55):
But at least, you know, we get a chance to
talk to each other about it and about where we're at,
you know, in this day and time. And to have
friends like that or to have people like that, I
think we all deserve a chance to at least talk

(08:18):
about it.

Speaker 1 (08:20):
And it's okay to be okay, to not be okay, brother,
And so that's what we talk about.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
You know, we talk more about our situations than music,
because once we pick up the music, our instruments, you know,
all the rest of that stuff goes away, you know,
And so that's something that we both have recognized and

(08:52):
we deal with it. And you know, it's so many
people that have that same problem. Like you go to work,
you go to work, but you know, it's not something
that you know, that's not really what's.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
On your mind. You know, what's on your mind and some.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
Of this, you know, this crazy stuff, you know, and
so you know, your work takes back seat. But thankfully,
you know, our music still takes the front seat, you know,
but we still have that's you know, those same old

(09:31):
ideas and thoughts that come to come to mind. So
we have to learn how to deal with that. And
you've got to have somebody to deal with it with
you or that's at least for you. So yeah, that's
you know, that's why I knew we had to do
this album for a purpose, you know, and it's not

(09:55):
just for Bucket and myself, you know, it's not just
for the musicians that's own here. But at least we
all feel the same and we want to get this
purpose out and we want to be able to talk
about it. And that's what this album we hope helps
people to do, is at least talk about it, you know,

(10:20):
you know, even if you don't listen to the record
so much. The message is there, the purpose is there.
So you know, that's what I'm encouraging people for.

Speaker 3 (10:32):
And thank you for that so much because it is
hard to talk about and my listeners know. And I
don't want to make it too much about me because
I want to because I know my time with View
is limited. I'm keeping you extra time doing this these
two hours. But I lost my dad to mental health
about thirteen years ago. Harrison. Do you want to say

(10:55):
hi to Booty Commons? I know you say, Harrison, there,
should show them on the screen if you don't mind.
And he is long hair, he looks like Kirk Obain.
There he is.

Speaker 1 (11:07):
There, he is man, how's it going?

Speaker 3 (11:10):
So, I mean, just to be a dad now and
having to have lost my dad at that point. Yeah,
you know, I'm a staunch because the music is great.
You said, even if you don't listen to the music,
you should because there's a great coverage of Hendrix's Manic
Depression that with Derek Gale. So I mean, people, it's
the whole again. The music itself is great, but the message.

(11:31):
So I became a buckethead fan. I didn't know about
him until guns and roses. So he's throwing buck How
appropriate is that my son threw a bucket at me
as soon as I mentioned buckethead. Life's funny. Life is
very funny. So uh and this is another reason why
I can't keep you here too long, because he's losing concentration.
So but I've become such a staunch defender of bucket.

(11:53):
I've seen him in concert with gn R, I've seen
him in concert solo with Practice a Practice as well.
But I like his look because I'm a horror guy.
But he talks about mental health. The only interviews he's
ever done were with his therapists, right, so I'll see.
You know, people who love guns and roses like he
doesn't belong there, he's and they hate when they use

(12:16):
this word freak just because his appearance. Because I felt
like I still feel like a freak. I'm wondering if
you could speak to that and because I I don't
you know, if you could pass along the buckethead or whatever.
I just respect the fact so much in the day
and age where it's it's not a gimmick. I mean,
like it isn't. It isn't. He's just I hear just

(12:37):
the most pleasant things about him as a person.

Speaker 1 (12:39):
So he is the most pleasant person you could ever
be with.

Speaker 2 (12:46):
You know, he's so humble, you know, you can't say
enough good things about him, you know.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
Uh, and he really.

Speaker 2 (12:58):
Can't help the fact that, you know, that's where he's at,
and that's where he's been at, you know, and then
if you come up with words to call him, you know,
then that's on you, you know, because he's.

Speaker 1 (13:16):
Not trying to be a rock star. He's not trying
to be you know, anybody else. He's not trying to
do that.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
You know, he's found himself early, you know, and people
call him a freak, so you know, he's had enough
time to get used to that because I'm like, I'm like, bucket,
you know, how are you going to walk around looking
like this and don't expect people to call you a freak?
And then we laugh about it, you know, but you know,

(13:50):
getting over that hump is it just takes time. It
really do take time, and you know, and it's a
spiritual thing as well, you know, And so I think
that's what's been keeping us really together and knowing that,

(14:10):
you know, the universe is working through us with transmitters
and receivers, So you know, knowing that, you know, that
really has kept us together and able to talk without
explaining what you're talking about.

Speaker 1 (14:29):
You know.

Speaker 2 (14:30):
It's like I know when he's talking a little sideways,
and he knows when I'm talking a little sideways.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
And that's a good feeling.

Speaker 2 (14:40):
For somebody to know what you mean, you know, without doubting,
you are questioning, you are calling you crazy, you know.
And so you know, we face that every day every
single day. Imagine what Bucket faces every day because you know,
he don't talk. You know, you don't talk to people,

(15:04):
you know, uh, you know, we talk, but I'm talking
about just just people in general, you know.

Speaker 1 (15:10):
But that's not a gimmick. You know. He talks with
his guitar.

Speaker 3 (15:15):
Right, Yeah, and that's pretty much it, you know. I
know this is just kind of like over the air,
like I you can see me, but I can't see you.
But as I said, suggestion, because yeah, Buckehead would never
do my podcasts, and I wouldn't wanted to do something
he's uncomfortable. Uncomfortable, Well, if I can throw it out there,
if you ever wanted to do it on camera and

(15:35):
just have him back there, just standing there doing nunchucks
and giving out you know, being you know, weird.

Speaker 1 (15:40):
That's him.

Speaker 3 (15:41):
I would I would love that anyway. The last thing
is because I wanted to learn about uh you and
Patty and help you guys met at the beginning of this,
because I just want to bring it around with the foundation,
which does so much great work. So if you can
tell me about the boots and pouty Patty, excuse me,
Collins Foundation.

Speaker 5 (16:00):
Thank you so much.

Speaker 4 (16:00):
So we launched in twenty ten and lots of different programs,
but our main one right now is called Funk f
Unk Not Fight, and it's where we're helping to calm
the violence in our communities through the power of music,
dance and gaming. So we launched with the Rock and

(16:21):
Roll Hall of Fame about it's going on four years now.
We actually use their largest stage and we brought to
the stage and this is how we move around the country.

Speaker 5 (16:31):
We work with city council.

Speaker 4 (16:33):
We work with those who care about their communities, from
citizens to neighbors to those who just have factories and
procter and gamble all these different places, and we come
together and ask what's going on in your town, and they.

Speaker 5 (16:48):
Actually come together and talk about it.

Speaker 4 (16:50):
Then we have music that is a lot of times
featured with artists that live in that particular city lifting
them up. And we have what's gaming now that's a
part of Funk that fight. So Bootsy has a game
and it's on the Fortnite platform with the epic placement,
so as our children come and play the game. The

(17:13):
title track on the game is Metal Health, so we
get to talk to them about that. And what's great
is the game is called Capture the Funk and you
have to play together in order to play the game.
We know that our children are being siloed with the
different games that they're playing, but when you play Capture
the Funk, you have to work with someone either virtually

(17:35):
or sitting right.

Speaker 5 (17:36):
Next to you. So that's how we feel like we
can bring our kids back together. We're meeting them where
they are, but we're.

Speaker 4 (17:42):
Also asking them to come together to play. What's also
great about the game is by being able to release
music on it, such as Metal Health, we're going to
be able to release more songs from that album, going
to be releasing music from other artists like Davey, who
is one of our arts signed on Bootsilla Records, so
that's a great extra revenue for.

Speaker 5 (18:04):
Him to be able to put a song on the game.

Speaker 4 (18:07):
And who's our son who has an album coming out
on Bootziller Records as well. So it's just another way
to help our communities. Look them up for the power
for gaming.

Speaker 5 (18:18):
That's pretty much who we are.

Speaker 3 (18:20):
I love that my son who just went potty by himself,
I was too much information. I think that's why I
said like potty because he goes like I gotta go potty, daddy,
and that came out. So I'm sorry when I introduced
him to Fortnite because he's that smart. I don't know
if I want to screen time, but we're doing that.

(18:41):
And please bring Pale Fast to New York. That sounds amazing.

Speaker 1 (18:45):
Oh man, that would be amazing.

Speaker 3 (18:48):
Thank you all so much. Sorry for the overtime, obviously,
I have a lot going on. I'm behind the scenes too.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
We appreciate you man too.

Speaker 3 (18:55):
Are amazing. It was a pleasure to be with you
guys this morning, and thank you for this time with
them with me today.

Speaker 5 (19:01):
Thank you so very much.

Speaker 4 (19:02):
We appreciate you so much and we hope to work
with you again sometime in the near future.

Speaker 3 (19:10):
I would love that. Please anytime you guys be well.

Speaker 4 (19:13):
Thank you have a great one to buye.

Speaker 1 (19:23):
Thanks to the lame as security. I'm going home.
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