July 15, 2026 • 42 mins
"Voodoo Wiseguys" is a blues-soaked hard rock collaboration featuring guitar legend, George Lynch. George joins to discuss the project, motivation, comedy, Dokken, Freddy Krueger, Lynch Mob, nudist colonies, Guns N' Roses, and much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the podcast Appetite for Distortion, episode number five
hundred and seventy. My name is Brando. Welcome back to
the podcast. Mister George Lynch, how are you, sir?
Speaker 2 (00:12):
You don't have to call me a mister.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
That says how we introduce everybody. What would you prefer?
I'm not going to call you Georgie boy, but I mean,
just just joined.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
I prefer Spartacus.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Spartacus, all right, Aaron Spartakas Okay, a Starbucks name is it?
Do you actually do that?
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Yeah, we're on the road. I try to stay away
from Starbucks, but when we go on the road, it's
pretty much, you know, the consistent thing that's available. So
we go to Starbucks a lot. That's where we have
breakfast every morning and refilled during the day. And yeah,
that's my I just like to see people's reaction when
they call out my coffee. I mean, I don't like
(00:57):
with a loin cloth and a shield or anything.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Mmmmm, that's all. Hey, I wouldn't judge you if you
did for any reason.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Yeah, somebody would.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Do You get recognized often when you're in a Starbucks
because I'm sure everyone's there, they're focused on what their
order is.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
I try to be by surrounding myself with like copies
of my own album and stand around nonchalantly wait for
people to recognize it. Then I have surprised now very occasionally,
you know, it happens.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
I love that. In the sad thing is, you know
people do that. There are people who actually like, oh,
look at this fan who's asking for my autograph and
it's totally like a hired actor or something like that. Well, well, yeah,
I mean you've done it so much so you never
know what you could be recognized from. I guess that's
part of my segue into everything obviously of course from
(01:54):
docking or solo work, you know, Lynch Mob. And today
we're going to talk just a little bit about this
other project that you have going on. It's it's hard
to keep up with it, but that's with Joe Retta
and that is the story behind the Voodoo Wise guys.
So can you kind of tell me about Voodoo Wise guys,
(02:15):
because it's not the typical band. It's kind of like
a rotating project. And there's a new video out, a
re release of a song you did someday you'll know,
and it's a it just sounds great. I mean, it
just sounds great. So you can kind of talk about
that project for a voodoo wise guys and what that entails.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Be honest, I'm a little confused about what the project
is too, and I've been involved with it for you know,
many years now. I actually wrote the song, was commissioned
to write the song with the people that that commissioned me,
your friends of mine we've worked for in the past,
and Susie and Robert and so I wrote the song
(03:00):
and then not the lyrics, just the music, and then
they paired me up with Joe Read And I got
to tell you, I mean, I am so just in
love with the song. And I'm not trying to toot
my own or anything. I'm just saying I've done a
lot of I've written a lot of songs, report a
lot of music, but that one is almost like the
(03:20):
kind of I'm done. It's because my wife asked me
some time ago. She goes, how many songs do you think?
She's all in the she deals with publishing and things
like that which I don't understand, and she says, well,
how many songs do you think you've written? And this
and that, I go, well, I don't know, and I go,
but you know what, I wish, I've written just one
(03:41):
great one, and to me, that's the closest I've gotten
to that, you know. So I listened to it and
it completely satisfies me, and I'm like, why can't I
write them all like this? You know? And of course Joe,
you know, we wrote the lyrics and melodies, and he's
so freaking one full on that track. I love him
so much, so, you know, immediately I was like, we
(04:05):
have to get a band together, and we have to
go on tour, and we have to do a whole
album in the sense of course, not those things to happen,
but you never know. But but yeah, I mean it's
it's it's a simple song, but it it's deceptively simple though,
because there's things. There's a lot of things going on
(04:27):
behind the scenes there if you really listen. Yeah, no,
it's not a sugar song. It's not you know, progressive,
but there's a lot of subtle layering and things that
are accents and things like that that are very musical
and smart and beautiful, and I think it just works
so well. I got to shout out to win Datas too,
(04:49):
who who mixed it, and there's you know, in a
big way, responsible for the way it came out so beautifully,
and of course is a guy we've worked with quite
a bit, especially in doc. It's is possible for I
can't remember which doc and records we did with them,
(05:11):
but okay, yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
It is a it's a beautiful song because I didn't
know what to expect, and that's kind of what the uh,
the pitch is. It's funny that you even somebody in
the band. It's hard to explain, so I'm gonna give
you what I was given trying to explain this project.
It's an artist first, rotating collective of legendary rock musicians
creating standalone collaborations outside the normal pressures of touring cycles,
(05:38):
label politics, and industry expectations. So it's it's got to
give you a lot of freedom. But here's the thing,
and maybe you can add to this, it's kind of
each release has a larger collectible card mythology universe, and
each collaboration becomes part of an involving fifty four card
deck representing a different musical archetype and creative identity, which
(06:02):
is and that says a lot, but that's pretty cool.
I mean, can you speak to that and what's maybe
I could?
Speaker 2 (06:10):
I knew what that meant. It sounds good archetype for me.
And then we'll go from there.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Well it sounds good to me. But I'll bounce off
what you were saying about how you felt this was
the closest thing you felt. I don't want to I
know I'm paraphrasing and you just said it, but like
the most perfect piece of music you've ever written. And
that's so fascinating to hear from you, who's influenced so
many who have written so many great riffs and songs
(06:40):
and things like that. What do you And it's interesting.
I was gonna ask this, it's the universe is weird.
I was going to ask this of you, and I
didn't know if it would make sense. And sometimes I
think about with me, what am I chasing? Is am
I chasing a certain interview? Am I chasing a certain conversation?
What am I doing? But each one, each interview, each
episode has its own life, and sometimes I'll be like, Oh,
(07:02):
that's that's it, and sometimes I won't. You know, there
are others that are well received and I'm like, eh,
that was Okay, is am I kind of paralleling what
you feel about your music because it's I did find
that interesting. You said like, this is the closest you've
ever gotten, And I'm sure many fans would be like, wait,
what what he wrote with this was amazing? That was amazing,
and you might not think so.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Yeah, it doesn't diminish or negate anything else that any
of my other work, and you know it's all apples
and oranges anyways. But I just say that when you
read me that description of the project and the parts
that I understood, it sounded like, uh, yeah, that was
actually true, where there wasn't as much pressure as there
(07:47):
usually is to do an album where you're concerned about budgets,
you're concerned about you know, the people in the band
and and scheduling and you know, is everything, you know,
your whole career to depends on this coming out, right,
you know, and there's a lot of moving parts, whereas
something like this, really all you're worrying about is just
(08:08):
writing what I'm playing well and it I mean, you
want to do a good job, but it doesn't have
this insane pressure on your shoulders too, you know, which
I think when you have that kind of pressure, it
has sort of a dampening effect on your creativity because
you're just not breathing and flowing like you should be
(08:29):
when you relaxed, you know. So I think that might
have been the case here. I didn't think too hardly.
I didn't overthink things, and as I said, it's a
pretty simple song with a very basic arrangement. But you know,
it's a proven arrangement. It works. It's worked for thousands
of songs, and there's a reason it works. I just
(08:50):
didn't fight it, you know, I just let it. It
really just wrote itself and took its own course. I
remember one of the easiest songs I've ever written.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
M Yeah, I like that. With that.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
How to do that intentionally set up a fake like
record company that doesn't give you any pressure? I don't know.
How do you do that?
Speaker 1 (09:17):
I don't know. Just be just be you, you know,
your your own record company if you can.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
That sounds like a T shirt when they want you
to join the army. I don't know about that. Sure, Okay,
I'll get right on that. Platitudes, but I mean I'm
saying no. I mean, I appreciate the advice, but I'm
just like, I don't know how to get in that
space because I'm doing a record right now, Anchmob record
meaning doing meaning I'm writing it, and yeah, I'm constantly
(09:46):
questioning myself and like, ah that you know, things that
I've written so far, I'm kind of like questioning long direction.
Nchmod has a sound, a brand, a style people expect
with a sensation. Then I go, well, at the same time,
I'm an older cat. I kind of like more bluesy stuff,
and maybe that's the way I'm going and maybe that works.
(10:08):
And then I'm like, oh, keep questioning myself. Where the
Voudo wise Guy's thing was just I don't know, there
was no resistance, and I don't know how to I
wish I could find a pill that would make me
think like that. I would pay a lot of money
for it if you happen to invent that or something
on chance.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Well anything. The conversation we're having is a metaphorical pill,
at least for me, just because it's they hear someone
as accomplished as you still questioning yourself, And I questioned
myself all the time, so there's some sort of okay, Wow,
George Lynch can still put out incredible music. You know,
(10:48):
after all these years in the discography that you have.
Maybe my questioning myself is what's motivating me or if
it's a normal thing to do, so I have anything.
I appreciate hearing you, uh saying that, But I do
understand it kind of sucks to question yourself. You just
want to do it. You just want to not deal
with all distress and deal with the music and and
(11:09):
let that be its own monster. Does that make sense?
Speaker 2 (11:13):
I think there's like a better way. There could be
a better way to be creative and do the work,
That's all I'm thinking. But I'm not smart enough or
logical enough to know how to implement that. I'd have
to have somebody do it for me. What you like?
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Yeah, well, sorry, I mean you're doing well so far.
But what motivates you?
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Then? What's that confident this morning? And now I'm all
questioning is gonna suck? Thank you.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
I'm sorry. I mean to have my neuroses seep through
the zoom call. I'm sorry to put that on you now.
I mean, of anything I thought I was praising you,
I think I enjoy But what motivates you? I think
let's go back to the root. Let's get away from
(12:06):
the negativity. What motivates you, whether it was with the
voodoo wise guys and that, and what's helping you write
this Lynch Mob record, Because you can rest if you
want it to. You can rest on your laurels, you
can rest on the songs that you've already written and
play and tour if you want. You don't have to
do anything. That's how I in my mind things. But
you're still out there creating new stuff. So what's the
(12:28):
main thing that motivates you or main things?
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Because you're never happy with your work. So I mean
in some sense you are, you know, But you know,
I don't go back and ever listen to anything unless
I have to learn something to play live or whatever.
But if you just mentioned, I don't even know my
own album names, you know. So it's just like when
(12:52):
you're done with it, you know, meaning you've written it
and you recorded it and it hasn't even been released yet,
you're over it, you know, Not that you don't care,
it's just that it's all about creating it, you know.
And then you create something that is like your child.
You know, you made this beautiful thing and that you're
(13:13):
very proud of and it's cathartic and all this and that,
and it's just part of the process of the way
I live my life. And I've always done it as
long as I can remember, as a young man, you know,
young team, and I just feel like it's something that
(13:34):
I haven't an obligation to do, a desire to do,
and then once you do it, it's it seems like
you've added something to the universe that matters, you know,
even though maybe it didn't, But even if nobody hears it,
it seems important. So I don't know, I try to
think too much about it because it's pointless because where's
(13:54):
that lead? You know.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Yeah, I'm getting too deep and too deep for you. Sorry, Georgia.
I know you're a few hours earlier than where I am.
So what's mister Scary?
Speaker 2 (14:10):
I said, Deep thoughts with mister scared.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Deep thoughts with mister Scary. Yeah that could be Hey,
that could be a podcast for you, you know.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
That's Saturday Night Live thing like that.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Yeah, Yeah, Deep thoughts with Jack Handy.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Jack Handy, you're right, you're right.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
There was Stewart Smalley, who You're good enough, you're smart enough. Gosh,
people like you. Yeah, that was with Al Franken. See,
I was an SNL guy like back. That's that's that's
the era I grew up with. Oh yeah, so yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
My favorite, my uh favorite SNL alumni is Norm McDonald.
That seems so bad, dude. It's like one of the
you know people, you know, knowing people that we all know,
that affected me so deeply when he passed. Of him
(15:09):
Jeff Beck Eddie, it's just like I could. I still
can't get my head wrapped around it. How does a
guy worth you know, tens of millions of dollars die?
I thought you could just stay alive for a long
time if you're rich like that.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Only movies, I guess.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Getting one of them full body in our eyes and lots.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Of Well that's there's this story, the new story about that.
I know I'm bastardizing because I really didn't. I don't
really care about the story, but I saw the headline.
This guy spending a lot of money to live forever,
just got this in and curable like stomach disease. So
it's just and he's spending like too, I don't know,
millions of dollars on like pills and wellness and checks
(15:55):
and all that stuff. And you're gonna die anyway. I mean,
it's that's meant for all of us. But to bring
this out because yeah, I ain't expect this to get
so deep and depressing this interview. Forgive me. Uh you
are leaving your mark. You have left your mark. You're
not going anywhere anytime soon. Uh So I if iver you.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Know that that my doctors don't know. But thank you.
I'm glad to finally hear some good news. Man.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
You know know how I judge, it's by the health
of the hair. You have such a healthy head of hair,
beautiful head of hair.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Bald people always die really fast.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
I don't know. I look sicker than you. You look
at oh man, now.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
You should be laughing at chemo pig.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
I'm not laughing at that. Don't be a silly goose.
I'm laughing because I that was the thought of mine.
I'm laughing how silly I was before I grew my
beard I can Before I knew I can grow a beard,
I was losing my hair. I had long hair, freshly
shaped face. And I'm I know you can't tell here
I'm handicapped. I'm showing you my handicapped tattoo. Right now,
(17:05):
I wear like braces and stuff. So I was just
so paranoid that people would think I was going through chemo,
that I didn't want to shave my head, that I
was hiding my hair, my baldness for like a decade,
doing all the stuff that people do, try to hide it,
until I realized, finally a decade later, this is stupid.
I didn't realize also, I can grow a mean beard.
(17:26):
So that's why I'm laughing. That's what the internal see.
Now I'm again, my neuroses is coming out. I didn't
expect this conversation with George Lynch today, but thanks for
bringing it out of me.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
I didn't expect an interview to be laughing at chemo patients.
But whatever, if.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
That's the way you would driven it, I'm sorry. But
that's that you look at your laughing And for those
who's listening or just listening, not watching on YouTube, he's smiling.
He's trying to get me in trouble with the cancer
patient demo. What you're doing here, But what they.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Say, laughter is the cure. You know, it's best medicine.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
That's how I tell you do it. You laugh about.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
In your travels. Next time you do run into a
cancer patient, laugh at them and you'll help them. You'll
be helping them.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
I'll laugh with them. I'm laughing at them, skipped.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
They should laugh at you.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
We're off the rails. But I wanted I wanted to
ask before I lose something. Were you ever or docan
ever asked to perform SNL before I lose that? Because
obviously there'll have been eighties metal bands. I don't know
if that was ever an opportunity for you as Intersection fan.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
We did, but we got the consolation price. We were
asked to play a dudess column in Arizona, which is
really interesting. If you ever get a chance to do it,
definitely take advantage of that. Nobody attractive at the place.
There's a little booth. It's way in the middle of
the desert, up with this town called New River, Arizona,
(18:57):
where I used to live that way, and uh, we
drove up in our van and there's some some old lady,
very nice lady, with a clipboard and nothing else on
except the clipboard, you know, and she signed us in
and then we played and they go, well, you have
the option. It's clothing optional, but you're going to feel
like a jerk if you don't get naked. I mean,
(19:18):
that's not what they said, but that was the that's
the way we felt. You know, you pretty much get
up there with clothes on. That's not going to you know,
you're going to feel like you're not playing along and
being part of the what this is all about. So
we did this robe and we played. Unfortunately, I have
this very large guitar, and I wasn't too worried, you
(19:43):
know what I mean. I felt bad for the singer.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Mm hmm. Well, yeah, that's a whole they make.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Mike's so big, you know what I mean. So what
he did was he insisted on having a podium mm hmm. Okay, hilarious.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Yeah, yeah, the thing at a podium, like he's given
a speech to hide behind God, She's well, I got man,
this has really gone off the road. What year was this?
I hope there are no videos. I hope there were
no pictures or videos.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Holy shit, that would be fantastic. There was no filming allowed,
and I don't know, probably this was quite a long
time ago, I believe early nineties, so I don't know
how easy it was to film back then we had
cell phones. But I don't know back then, I remember.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Just another nugget of something that that George Lynch has done,
has accomplished in his career.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
And yeah, yeah, I remember don it was one of
the this was doking and it was one of the
he wasn't ever it was joke around a lot, but
there was one time and when he was up there,
he did this a joke and it was hilarious. He goes,
sid something I can't remember exactly Forbade what he said,
but basically the effect of, you know, he was really
(20:57):
you know, he got the podium out there, and he
used to go out un till the podium was out there,
isn't that So he came out and covered up his
ship and had a towel or something and then got
behind a podium. Yeah, you know, this is something I
can It is a podiums he goes, this is something
I can really get behind. I thought that was pretty
good for Dawn. I mean it was good.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Yeah, No, it's it's clever. It's clever. I like it,
you know. And also before I lose it, because we
had part of a conversation off the air about things
that you may not remember because you've done so much.
When you were on five years ago, we were talking
about your album Seamless, and I was talking to you
about that off the air and you're like what, I'm like, uh,
(21:41):
And I had to go look it up again. It's
it's what to be so accomplished and write so much
music that you can even that you have the luxury
of forgetting it, which is is kind of special. And
again you make me feel better because my memory sucks,
so for you to kind of temporarily forget an album
is kind of interesting.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Probably forgotten more stuff than I than I remember, but
there's only when room in your brain for so much
and how you know how useful is that memory?
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Sure, so let's let's I don't want to keep you
here forever. Let's try to focus on the things that
you do, hopefully remember because next year, and I don't
think I get a chance to talk to you about
this last time, will be the fortieth anniversary of Back
to the Attack, and I don't know if there are
any sort of do you have any celebration plans? You know,
(22:36):
I don't know if there's back for the attacks. I'll
be back for the attack.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
I'm unhappy they're doing that because it's inconvenient for everybody,
because they close the banks, to close the post offices.
You know what I mean, it's a national holiday. I
don't know if you knew that.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Wait next year, the whole year.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
I'm kidding.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
I've never heard that that.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Was important, and it's not. But thank you for bringing
it up. Yeah fortieth Yeah around our house, boy, that's
all we do is pay back played back for the
attack music. The kids are like, daddy, Daddy, play back
for the attack again. I'm like, and they dress up,
you know, like Don Dacin and the band. It's this
(23:14):
whole thing.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Do they really they dress up as the dry humor?
And I thought that was my responsibility. Your here, George.
You have bested me. You have bested me in dry
humor and being subtle.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
That's not context.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
It's not going to try to compeat an care.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Uh So what do you get if you win? You?
Speaker 1 (23:39):
What if you get? If you win? You hopefully you
just make the audience laugh more. I can send you.
I don't know. I have nothing to give you. I have,
I have my love and respect, but you already have that.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
Oh I appreciate that thank you. Well, what could be
better than that? Thank you? Uh?
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Any fun memories of because I thought maybe you were
going to say, and hopefully it would have been real,
like your were dressing up like Freddy Krueger and asking
you to play you know, dream Warriors. But any I
was just hoping any fun memories of the filming the
video or writing the song, or meeting Robert England, any
fun Nightmare on Elm Street stories you may have.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Well, when you think of nightmare on Elm Street, I
don't think that that conflates with the word fun very well.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
You know, I'm a horror guy, so yeah, that's but I.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Mean, you know, when you're getting attacked by some serial child,
serial killer, you know, no boiler room, I don't think
you think how fun was.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
That you phrase it like that? Sure, yeah, but.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
No, I it was actually interesting. I mean it was
Freddy was in full makeup, of course, because we were
doing the video and he had to be and well,
I can't remember. Patricia Arquette, I think was the girl,
and she was very young at the time, and we
all got along really well. And you know, probably the
(25:05):
most bizarre thing, which I've mentioned before, which is slightly
ashamed of. But is that Freddie and I were just
doing coke all night off his razor blade fingers in
the trailer.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Yeah, true story.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Yeah, you know he had that hand glove. I do
the thing that we did the coke with, which is
that's pretty cool?
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Yeah, yeah, I think so that's cooler than than murder.
Do you think drugs? Drugs are murder? Which one is
more fun? You think?
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Well? Once?
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Well, in the in the world of Freddy Krueger.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Well, this was real life. He wasn't actually killing anybody,
but it was really I just wish I had a
video or a picture of that. That would be pretty
cool because that's rock and roll, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
It doesn't get much more rock and roll than that.
Don't do drugs, kids, but if you do, do it
off of Freddy's glove, that's the way to do it,
you know.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
Uh, one last thing, because we were talking about last time,
he told a great story about because obviously this is
a guns of Roses themed podcast. If you can't tell
by the name or the stuff behind me, uh, you
told a cool story about how you have a similar
amp or you had a similar amp as slash He
had it for appetite, you have it for back for
(26:23):
the attack. Uh So that was a really cool story.
I shared that recently on social media when you were
coming back on and people are excited about that. But
just curious if you had any other uh gen r
stories of people perhaps of you know, meeting them on
the because when I had Don on, he told a
great story about when he saw like it wasn't the
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hell house, but before they broke, when Izzy lived in
a closet. So I don't know if did you know
the guns of Roses guys back then before they broke,
or did you know them until you know, after appetite
and all that the success came.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
You no, no them money. But you know, we're all
running in the same circles, so you do run into
people with the rainbow. And there was an altercation that
the Rainbow once that I was involved in that I
had something to do with them. But I have kids
and grandkids and now it's all I'm talking about.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
That's fine. Yeah, well then I'll ask a safe question,
what do you think about?
Speaker 2 (27:22):
But there were guns, coke, booze and fast cars and
women involved and fighting.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Okay whatever, I'm not that kind of.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Journalistic drugs hugs, not.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
Drugs hugs, night drugs, hugs, night drugs.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
I'm just lexic, So I tried. I went to the
school that I was. They asked me to go talk
to these kids, but I'm just lexic. So I got
that line. I got that thing Bards and I got
in trouble and they've never asked me back, and they
were upset with me, as they should have been. I
felt that, but it was it wasn't you know, it
was my disease.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
Drug snut hugs kids? What What's wrong? What am I
saying wrong? I'm sorry, George that that happened.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
I broke out Freddy Krueger glove and did a line.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Well, that might have been that might have been the problem.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Some of these kids, you know, traumatized for years after that.
I'm kidding, None of that happened.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
I they don't sure, Sure, Well, I'm not going to
be that. I'm not that journalist that likes to dig
for dirt. So you know, if that G and R
story comes out one day, great, If not, it's it's it,
left it, leave it in the past.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Thing for my career, I mean, I'm really working on
my career. Growing my career, you know what I mean,
Because it's seven at almost seventy two. You know, I'm
really thinking I've got this whole you know, window of
advancement opportunity waiting for me. So I'm really working on,
you know, boosting my career. So if any of these
kind of lucid stories would really help, you know, because
that's what people want to read about. And see they
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don't want to hear the boy what kind of strings
did you use on back for the attack? You know,
I think that people do.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
I don't know people do, and they like hearing your
gear talk. I mean, I would just be being imposer if
I asked you about it because I don't know any
I'm just not a musician, so be lost on me.
I wish you know, if you're on again, I'll bring
on a guitarist friend that could talk here with you.
But no people care about that stuff. And like I said,
I don't you know, hearing the crazy stories could be fun,
you know, but at the same time, these are people,
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you have families, and those stories happened. It could be
fun for us, but I don't know the ramification is
going to happen. So I'm not that kind of journalist
or podcast hoaster or radio guy. So you know, just
the the cliff Notes version was a good enough for me.
So let's like kind of end here. Because you were
talking about you're writing for a New Lynch Mob. What
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can you expect when can we expect for that to
come to fruition New Lynch Mob.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
That's a that's a hard question to answer because it's
really it's really up to the label, you know, and
there's a lot of considerations there that I won't burn
you with. But you know, release dates are tricky and
I can't force people to do something they don't want
to do. So basically, I want to see things come
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out immediately when I finish some work because I want
people to hear it in I think it's relative to,
you know, a certain time frame because you're writing the
music now, you know, and that's events, universal events, personal events,
everything shape that. And then I think if you wait
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too long, it could potentially be taking it out of context,
you know, taking the music out of a relevant context.
I don't know if that's true or not, but I
think about that. I think, well, this record, you know,
it's it's not that it has an expiration date on it.
But there's a record I recently somewhat recently finished called
Cassandra's Crossing as a second Cassandra's Crossing record, and I'm
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really proud of that came out great label has just
is sitting on it, sitting on it, sitting on I
don't think it'll come out for It'll be about two
years after I finished it. It will come out. Oh wow,
And at that point I'm just like, what record was that?
What it's like? If they just released seamless, you know,
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I'd be like, what's that?
Speaker 1 (31:22):
Wow?
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Yeah, it's because you know, when you do some work,
you want some it seemed I don't know if it
seems like it's I mean, if you look at a
classic timeless record, maybe it doesn't matter when it came out.
It's going to be great in nineteen seventy eight, it'll
be great in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
I get Yeah, I know, I understand that part of it.
But the eagerness, the fact that it would take two
years and your right, especially with the music, did you
create all the environment of what's happening now and then
have it be delayed so much? So let's just go
back to what we said before. You need to have
your George Lynch to have his own record label and
just do things the way you want to do it.
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Maybe that's the next the next step.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
Yeah, you wouldn't want that. I'm really bad at thisiness.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
Okay, fair enough, I take it back.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
That's my wife. I'm not allowed anywhere near a bank
account whatever.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
Yeah, well that's okay, that's okay. That's when that's when
I we're not all good at anything. I think I
have my wife take care most of it, and so
I'm just like, tell me whatever you need, just let
me venmo to you.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Just I don't. I don't.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
I can't handle it. So I'm in the same school
as you. George. Thank you so much for your time today.
You're appreciate. I think I don't know how I forgot
how funny you are, but you are. You're so funny.
So just thank you for that. Because the music, thank you,
but just the humor and the fun conversation today, I
appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
You're welcome. You know, I've been doing stand up comedy. Yeah,
you're looking at me like I'm lying, but I'm not.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
I am looking at you like you're lying. If I
missed that, like, when have you been doing stand up?
Speaker 2 (33:08):
There were just one offs. I did three and I
but I do have more coming up. I did two
cruise ships, you know, rock cruises, one of which the
only thing I did on the cruise ship was the
stand up. My band wasn't even there. And then I played.
I played a club in Saint Lois called Funny Bones. Okay,
I did that. They me to do that because it
was an off day and we played a show the
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night before and we're playing a show the next night.
And the guy, the club owner, was at the show
and he says, do you want to come in and
I'll pay you an X amount of money and come
out and do a thing because he thought I was
funny during the show because I talked. Sometimes during you know,
our performances, I'll spend a lot of time goofing around
in between songs, which isn't necessarily a good idea. But anyways,
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they got me that gig and it went great, like
so I was like, I really liked doing this. So
I had a I had my bigger show on the
Monsters of Rock Cruise and it was sold out. It
was like eighteen hundred people all the bands are on
the side of the stage, a lot of pressure. I
spent about four or five days preparing, and then ten
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minutes before I went on backstage in the wings and
three professional comedians had gone on before me. They're opening
for me. Done this once in my life, And that
first time it was just sort of I was just
winging it. I don't know what I was doing, and
I'm talking off the top of my head like we
are now. And so this time I had prepared stuff,
you know, I was going to add notes, and I
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put my notes down this ring of notes in this
quadriplegic woman's motorized vehicle's basket so I could sign an autograph,
take a picture, and forgot I put it in there.
He took off. I can't go up here and do this.
Everybody and their mother, every band member, everybody's up there.
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The place was packed to the gills on the theater.
I was like, oh, I was nervous, and I haven't
been nervous about playing live in decades, you know, I
can't remember the last time I was had butterflies or anything.
And I told my wife, will go. I don't know
if I can do it. I'm so nervous, which is
a good thing maybe, But what am I doing? It's surreal,
seventy one years old. I'm not a comedian. What the
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fuck am I doing up here? But there's something about
it that I really love trying to do, you know,
And I did it and it was extremely successful. So
I'm thinking, do I want to do this? And am
I good enough to really do it? So I'm doing
a few more and just see how it goes. But
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it is very stressful. It is because it's not something
that I'm comfortable with. You know, it's not like playing
guitar whole life.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
That's cool, man's that's that is stressful. That it's a
stressful life, and that's it takes a lot of courage
to do that at this At this point, they come up,
you got your five minutes set or whatever it was.
How long was the set?
Speaker 2 (36:05):
It was supposed to be seven and a half minutes.
I did thirty minutes.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
Thirty minutes. Nice, Well, we need a George Lynch special
on Netflix. Now.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
Well, here's the thing. I was actually shocked at how
unoffended people generally were by saying things that I you know,
in normal conversation, you would never get away with saying
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in play company or even unplayed company. I think comedy
and music are the two things that somehow give us
an avenue to you know, I don't know if it's
express or what the term even is, or experience language
and whatever it is that, you know, a way of
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communicating something that is noncommunity capable in any other way.
It's very essential, like aaron and water, you know, I
don't know, I don't know what it is. Again, I'm
thinking too hard.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
What a conversation we've had George Lynch today. I appreciate
your time really.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
Talk about guitars of that album.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
Did we We did a bit, so yeah, if you
people want to check out the voodo.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
I don't really have too much with guitars and other stuff.
I'm more involved in, like every other person in the world,
just other things that life, you know, burdens you with
or occupies your time with. So what's It's not like
I sit around play guitar all day and think about that,
which was I hardly do ever.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
Actually, I appreciate you holding your guitar the entire episode.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
Just yeah, it's kind of a prop really, so I
can keep up the charade.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
What's the best place people can keep up with you?
And and hopefully it won't take two years for the
next Lynch Mob or anything you have now, whether it's
stand updates, what's the best place that people can follow.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
Crossing will be coming out next year from what I understand. Uh,
there's a live lynch Mob record coming out really soon.
It hasn't already been released, it may have already been released.
And then I've got a studio lynch Mob record I'm
working on. So there's those three. That's the I can
think of off the top of my head that are
in the pipeline. Other than that, you know, just find me,
(38:27):
plug my name in you I'll pop up somewhere. I
got a website called I don't even know how I
thought of this name. I got a one of them
fancy Hollywood naming services that they have rock stars and
they and I paid them a bunch of money and
they they gave me a name for my websites called
George Lynch dot com.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
Who would have thought about it?
Speaker 2 (38:51):
I never thought of that. I was like, well, how'd
you guys think of that?
Speaker 1 (38:54):
That's cool, brilliant.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
Pay two thousand dollars and then I have all the
other things too, Facebook, my Space, my.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
Space, okay, friends there even I.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
Don't know what that is. I have only fans too.
I mean, nobody wants to see us seventy one year
old guy fucking having sex.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
Well, I mean, after all this, uh talk about the
naked beach, I don't know, maybe that this could be
comedy only fans. There's so much life left to live
for you, George Lynch. Let's see what's what's to come
for you.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
I'm just basically a fucking horror. I'll do anything for money.
But honestly, as you asked, my inspiration was, and I
lied and said, oh, the music and ship. But really
I just like money. That's that's truth.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
But don't tell anybody, Okay, the screwge duck of the
rock and roll world, George Lynch, I'd rather say the
Norm McDonald of the rock and roll world. How about
that be good? Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (40:01):
I like like, if Norm McDonald and Jeff Beck fucked
and had a baby, I'd want it to be me.
That'd be cool, right.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
I hope that's a quote in one of the online magazines.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
If they pick up the quote, it's up to you.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
Oh, I's Michael, I'm gonna use it, but I want
someone else to recognize how brilliant that is. I want
that to be on your tombstone, my friend. I want
that to be on your mausoleum, you know, if you
should you pass away, I want that to say that
loving father husbands and if Jeff Beck fuck nor McDonald's,
this is what you would get. Earlies George Lynch.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
Right right spot, McDope. Well, uh, that's all good advice.
I appreciate the good advice, and I'll take it to heart.
Hopefully that happen. And h I want to thank you
for your time and patience with me. I appreciate it.
I like keeping things interesting instead just talk about the
same thing every time.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
Me too, you know. I always just want to, you know,
get to business foodoo wiseguys dot com and make sure
I do the right thing. But I I like this conversation.
You're you're a person, and we don't always get to
see that, you know, through the music. So I like
connecting with somebody with the time that I have and
having laughs, having a deep conversation, seeing where it goes,
and hopefully it's just not overly serious when it doesn't
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need to be. But uh, the people, that's the people
who listen. My guests get something out of it. I
know I got something out of it. So thank you.
Speaker 2 (41:28):
You have five hundred and something interviews.
Speaker 1 (41:30):
This was episode five hundred and seventy. Yeah, hotly, crap, George.
I hope we get to do this again. You're you're awesome.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
Thank you, buddy. It was fun and h Yeah. See
the other thing I can interview, I mean, by definition,
is supposed to be about you, me being me and
me or whoever. But I do I'm comfortable with that.
I don't like that. So I like just kind of
veering off the path and maybe talking about you or
something else, you know, as I think it's more interesting
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for the listener, Isn't that the point?
Speaker 1 (42:02):
I think so, And that's why I say that I'll
talk about myself. It's not an ego thing where there
are a lot of you know, podcast radio people that
will just cut people off and tell them, you know,
I want to share my story. It's so you can
hear my story. So you're just otherwise you're just sitting
there talking about yourself, and that's not I don't think
it's uncomfortable. Yeah, it's not fine. I don't like doing that,
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you know, so I I respect the person on the
other side. I'm not just be like okay, here, yes,
no tell me. I'm like, no, let's let's let's connect
in this medium that we've created. So uh, I'm I'm
glad you get it and we've Uh. This is one
of the more fun interviews I've had in a while,
So thank you. All right. So that does have with
this episode of Appetite for Distortion? When will you see
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the next one? In the words of Axl Rose concerning
Chinese democracy, I don't know as soon as a word,
but you'll see it.
Welcome to the podcast Appetite for Distortion, episode number five
hundred and seventy. My name is Brando. Welcome back to
the podcast. Mister George Lynch, how are you, sir?
Speaker 2 (00:12):
You don't have to call me a mister.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
That says how we introduce everybody. What would you prefer?
I'm not going to call you Georgie boy, but I mean,
just just joined.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
I prefer Spartacus.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Spartacus, all right, Aaron Spartakas Okay, a Starbucks name is it?
Do you actually do that?
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Yeah, we're on the road. I try to stay away
from Starbucks, but when we go on the road, it's
pretty much, you know, the consistent thing that's available. So
we go to Starbucks a lot. That's where we have
breakfast every morning and refilled during the day. And yeah,
that's my I just like to see people's reaction when
they call out my coffee. I mean, I don't like
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with a loin cloth and a shield or anything.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Mmmmm, that's all. Hey, I wouldn't judge you if you
did for any reason.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Yeah, somebody would.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Do You get recognized often when you're in a Starbucks
because I'm sure everyone's there, they're focused on what their
order is.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
I try to be by surrounding myself with like copies
of my own album and stand around nonchalantly wait for
people to recognize it. Then I have surprised now very occasionally,
you know, it happens.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
I love that. In the sad thing is, you know
people do that. There are people who actually like, oh,
look at this fan who's asking for my autograph and
it's totally like a hired actor or something like that. Well, well, yeah,
I mean you've done it so much so you never
know what you could be recognized from. I guess that's
part of my segue into everything obviously of course from
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docking or solo work, you know, Lynch Mob. And today
we're going to talk just a little bit about this
other project that you have going on. It's it's hard
to keep up with it, but that's with Joe Retta
and that is the story behind the Voodoo Wise guys.
So can you kind of tell me about Voodoo Wise guys,
(02:15):
because it's not the typical band. It's kind of like
a rotating project. And there's a new video out, a
re release of a song you did someday you'll know,
and it's a it just sounds great. I mean, it
just sounds great. So you can kind of talk about
that project for a voodoo wise guys and what that entails.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Be honest, I'm a little confused about what the project
is too, and I've been involved with it for you know,
many years now. I actually wrote the song, was commissioned
to write the song with the people that that commissioned me,
your friends of mine we've worked for in the past,
and Susie and Robert and so I wrote the song
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and then not the lyrics, just the music, and then
they paired me up with Joe Read And I got
to tell you, I mean, I am so just in
love with the song. And I'm not trying to toot
my own or anything. I'm just saying I've done a
lot of I've written a lot of songs, report a
lot of music, but that one is almost like the
(03:20):
kind of I'm done. It's because my wife asked me
some time ago. She goes, how many songs do you think?
She's all in the she deals with publishing and things
like that which I don't understand, and she says, well,
how many songs do you think you've written? And this
and that, I go, well, I don't know, and I go,
but you know what, I wish, I've written just one
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great one, and to me, that's the closest I've gotten
to that, you know. So I listened to it and
it completely satisfies me, and I'm like, why can't I
write them all like this? You know? And of course Joe,
you know, we wrote the lyrics and melodies, and he's
so freaking one full on that track. I love him
so much, so, you know, immediately I was like, we
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have to get a band together, and we have to
go on tour, and we have to do a whole
album in the sense of course, not those things to happen,
but you never know. But but yeah, I mean it's
it's it's a simple song, but it it's deceptively simple though,
because there's things. There's a lot of things going on
(04:27):
behind the scenes there if you really listen. Yeah, no,
it's not a sugar song. It's not you know, progressive,
but there's a lot of subtle layering and things that
are accents and things like that that are very musical
and smart and beautiful, and I think it just works
so well. I got to shout out to win Datas too,
(04:49):
who who mixed it, and there's you know, in a
big way, responsible for the way it came out so beautifully,
and of course is a guy we've worked with quite
a bit, especially in doc. It's is possible for I
can't remember which doc and records we did with them,
(05:11):
but okay, yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
It is a it's a beautiful song because I didn't
know what to expect, and that's kind of what the uh,
the pitch is. It's funny that you even somebody in
the band. It's hard to explain, so I'm gonna give
you what I was given trying to explain this project.
It's an artist first, rotating collective of legendary rock musicians
creating standalone collaborations outside the normal pressures of touring cycles,
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label politics, and industry expectations. So it's it's got to
give you a lot of freedom. But here's the thing,
and maybe you can add to this, it's kind of
each release has a larger collectible card mythology universe, and
each collaboration becomes part of an involving fifty four card
deck representing a different musical archetype and creative identity, which
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is and that says a lot, but that's pretty cool.
I mean, can you speak to that and what's maybe
I could?
Speaker 2 (06:10):
I knew what that meant. It sounds good archetype for me.
And then we'll go from there.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Well it sounds good to me. But I'll bounce off
what you were saying about how you felt this was
the closest thing you felt. I don't want to I
know I'm paraphrasing and you just said it, but like
the most perfect piece of music you've ever written. And
that's so fascinating to hear from you, who's influenced so
many who have written so many great riffs and songs
(06:40):
and things like that. What do you And it's interesting.
I was gonna ask this, it's the universe is weird.
I was going to ask this of you, and I
didn't know if it would make sense. And sometimes I
think about with me, what am I chasing? Is am
I chasing a certain interview? Am I chasing a certain conversation?
What am I doing? But each one, each interview, each
episode has its own life, and sometimes I'll be like, Oh,
(07:02):
that's that's it, and sometimes I won't. You know, there
are others that are well received and I'm like, eh,
that was Okay, is am I kind of paralleling what
you feel about your music because it's I did find
that interesting. You said like, this is the closest you've
ever gotten, And I'm sure many fans would be like, wait,
what what he wrote with this was amazing? That was amazing,
and you might not think so.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Yeah, it doesn't diminish or negate anything else that any
of my other work, and you know it's all apples
and oranges anyways. But I just say that when you
read me that description of the project and the parts
that I understood, it sounded like, uh, yeah, that was
actually true, where there wasn't as much pressure as there
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usually is to do an album where you're concerned about budgets,
you're concerned about you know, the people in the band
and and scheduling and you know, is everything, you know,
your whole career to depends on this coming out, right,
you know, and there's a lot of moving parts, whereas
something like this, really all you're worrying about is just
(08:08):
writing what I'm playing well and it I mean, you
want to do a good job, but it doesn't have
this insane pressure on your shoulders too, you know, which
I think when you have that kind of pressure, it
has sort of a dampening effect on your creativity because
you're just not breathing and flowing like you should be
(08:29):
when you relaxed, you know. So I think that might
have been the case here. I didn't think too hardly.
I didn't overthink things, and as I said, it's a
pretty simple song with a very basic arrangement. But you know,
it's a proven arrangement. It works. It's worked for thousands
of songs, and there's a reason it works. I just
(08:50):
didn't fight it, you know, I just let it. It
really just wrote itself and took its own course. I
remember one of the easiest songs I've ever written.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
M Yeah, I like that. With that.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
How to do that intentionally set up a fake like
record company that doesn't give you any pressure? I don't know.
How do you do that?
Speaker 1 (09:17):
I don't know. Just be just be you, you know,
your your own record company if you can.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
That sounds like a T shirt when they want you
to join the army. I don't know about that. Sure, Okay,
I'll get right on that. Platitudes, but I mean I'm
saying no. I mean, I appreciate the advice, but I'm
just like, I don't know how to get in that
space because I'm doing a record right now, Anchmob record
meaning doing meaning I'm writing it, and yeah, I'm constantly
(09:46):
questioning myself and like, ah that you know, things that
I've written so far, I'm kind of like questioning long direction.
Nchmod has a sound, a brand, a style people expect
with a sensation. Then I go, well, at the same time,
I'm an older cat. I kind of like more bluesy stuff,
and maybe that's the way I'm going and maybe that works.
(10:08):
And then I'm like, oh, keep questioning myself. Where the
Voudo wise Guy's thing was just I don't know, there
was no resistance, and I don't know how to I
wish I could find a pill that would make me
think like that. I would pay a lot of money
for it if you happen to invent that or something
on chance.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Well anything. The conversation we're having is a metaphorical pill,
at least for me, just because it's they hear someone
as accomplished as you still questioning yourself, And I questioned
myself all the time, so there's some sort of okay, Wow,
George Lynch can still put out incredible music. You know,
(10:48):
after all these years in the discography that you have.
Maybe my questioning myself is what's motivating me or if
it's a normal thing to do, so I have anything.
I appreciate hearing you, uh saying that, But I do
understand it kind of sucks to question yourself. You just
want to do it. You just want to not deal
with all distress and deal with the music and and
(11:09):
let that be its own monster. Does that make sense?
Speaker 2 (11:13):
I think there's like a better way. There could be
a better way to be creative and do the work,
That's all I'm thinking. But I'm not smart enough or
logical enough to know how to implement that. I'd have
to have somebody do it for me. What you like?
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Yeah, well, sorry, I mean you're doing well so far.
But what motivates you?
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Then? What's that confident this morning? And now I'm all
questioning is gonna suck? Thank you.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
I'm sorry. I mean to have my neuroses seep through
the zoom call. I'm sorry to put that on you now.
I mean, of anything I thought I was praising you,
I think I enjoy But what motivates you? I think
let's go back to the root. Let's get away from
(12:06):
the negativity. What motivates you, whether it was with the
voodoo wise guys and that, and what's helping you write
this Lynch Mob record, Because you can rest if you
want it to. You can rest on your laurels, you
can rest on the songs that you've already written and
play and tour if you want. You don't have to
do anything. That's how I in my mind things. But
you're still out there creating new stuff. So what's the
(12:28):
main thing that motivates you or main things?
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Because you're never happy with your work. So I mean
in some sense you are, you know, But you know,
I don't go back and ever listen to anything unless
I have to learn something to play live or whatever.
But if you just mentioned, I don't even know my
own album names, you know. So it's just like when
(12:52):
you're done with it, you know, meaning you've written it
and you recorded it and it hasn't even been released yet,
you're over it, you know, Not that you don't care,
it's just that it's all about creating it, you know.
And then you create something that is like your child.
You know, you made this beautiful thing and that you're
(13:13):
very proud of and it's cathartic and all this and that,
and it's just part of the process of the way
I live my life. And I've always done it as
long as I can remember, as a young man, you know,
young team, and I just feel like it's something that
(13:34):
I haven't an obligation to do, a desire to do,
and then once you do it, it's it seems like
you've added something to the universe that matters, you know,
even though maybe it didn't, But even if nobody hears it,
it seems important. So I don't know, I try to
think too much about it because it's pointless because where's
(13:54):
that lead? You know.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Yeah, I'm getting too deep and too deep for you. Sorry, Georgia.
I know you're a few hours earlier than where I am.
So what's mister Scary?
Speaker 2 (14:10):
I said, Deep thoughts with mister scared.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Deep thoughts with mister Scary. Yeah that could be Hey,
that could be a podcast for you, you know.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
That's Saturday Night Live thing like that.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Yeah, Yeah, Deep thoughts with Jack Handy.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Jack Handy, you're right, you're right.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
There was Stewart Smalley, who You're good enough, you're smart enough. Gosh,
people like you. Yeah, that was with Al Franken. See,
I was an SNL guy like back. That's that's that's
the era I grew up with. Oh yeah, so yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
My favorite, my uh favorite SNL alumni is Norm McDonald.
That seems so bad, dude. It's like one of the
you know people, you know, knowing people that we all know,
that affected me so deeply when he passed. Of him
(15:09):
Jeff Beck Eddie, it's just like I could. I still
can't get my head wrapped around it. How does a
guy worth you know, tens of millions of dollars die?
I thought you could just stay alive for a long
time if you're rich like that.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Only movies, I guess.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Getting one of them full body in our eyes and lots.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Of Well that's there's this story, the new story about that.
I know I'm bastardizing because I really didn't. I don't
really care about the story, but I saw the headline.
This guy spending a lot of money to live forever,
just got this in and curable like stomach disease. So
it's just and he's spending like too, I don't know,
millions of dollars on like pills and wellness and checks
(15:55):
and all that stuff. And you're gonna die anyway. I mean,
it's that's meant for all of us. But to bring
this out because yeah, I ain't expect this to get
so deep and depressing this interview. Forgive me. Uh you
are leaving your mark. You have left your mark. You're
not going anywhere anytime soon. Uh So I if iver you.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Know that that my doctors don't know. But thank you.
I'm glad to finally hear some good news. Man.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
You know know how I judge, it's by the health
of the hair. You have such a healthy head of hair,
beautiful head of hair.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Bald people always die really fast.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
I don't know. I look sicker than you. You look
at oh man, now.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
You should be laughing at chemo pig.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
I'm not laughing at that. Don't be a silly goose.
I'm laughing because I that was the thought of mine.
I'm laughing how silly I was before I grew my
beard I can Before I knew I can grow a beard,
I was losing my hair. I had long hair, freshly
shaped face. And I'm I know you can't tell here
I'm handicapped. I'm showing you my handicapped tattoo. Right now,
(17:05):
I wear like braces and stuff. So I was just
so paranoid that people would think I was going through chemo,
that I didn't want to shave my head, that I
was hiding my hair, my baldness for like a decade,
doing all the stuff that people do, try to hide it,
until I realized, finally a decade later, this is stupid.
I didn't realize also, I can grow a mean beard.
(17:26):
So that's why I'm laughing. That's what the internal see.
Now I'm again, my neuroses is coming out. I didn't
expect this conversation with George Lynch today, but thanks for
bringing it out of me.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
I didn't expect an interview to be laughing at chemo patients.
But whatever, if.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
That's the way you would driven it, I'm sorry. But
that's that you look at your laughing And for those
who's listening or just listening, not watching on YouTube, he's smiling.
He's trying to get me in trouble with the cancer
patient demo. What you're doing here, But what they.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Say, laughter is the cure. You know, it's best medicine.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
That's how I tell you do it. You laugh about.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
In your travels. Next time you do run into a
cancer patient, laugh at them and you'll help them. You'll
be helping them.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
I'll laugh with them. I'm laughing at them, skipped.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
They should laugh at you.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
We're off the rails. But I wanted I wanted to
ask before I lose something. Were you ever or docan
ever asked to perform SNL before I lose that? Because
obviously there'll have been eighties metal bands. I don't know
if that was ever an opportunity for you as Intersection fan.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
We did, but we got the consolation price. We were
asked to play a dudess column in Arizona, which is
really interesting. If you ever get a chance to do it,
definitely take advantage of that. Nobody attractive at the place.
There's a little booth. It's way in the middle of
the desert, up with this town called New River, Arizona,
(18:57):
where I used to live that way, and uh, we
drove up in our van and there's some some old lady,
very nice lady, with a clipboard and nothing else on
except the clipboard, you know, and she signed us in
and then we played and they go, well, you have
the option. It's clothing optional, but you're going to feel
like a jerk if you don't get naked. I mean,
(19:18):
that's not what they said, but that was the that's
the way we felt. You know, you pretty much get
up there with clothes on. That's not going to you know,
you're going to feel like you're not playing along and
being part of the what this is all about. So
we did this robe and we played. Unfortunately, I have
this very large guitar, and I wasn't too worried, you
(19:43):
know what I mean. I felt bad for the singer.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Mm hmm. Well, yeah, that's a whole they make.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Mike's so big, you know what I mean. So what
he did was he insisted on having a podium mm hmm. Okay, hilarious.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Yeah, yeah, the thing at a podium, like he's given
a speech to hide behind God, She's well, I got man,
this has really gone off the road. What year was this?
I hope there are no videos. I hope there were
no pictures or videos.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Holy shit, that would be fantastic. There was no filming allowed,
and I don't know, probably this was quite a long
time ago, I believe early nineties, so I don't know
how easy it was to film back then we had
cell phones. But I don't know back then, I remember.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Just another nugget of something that that George Lynch has done,
has accomplished in his career.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
And yeah, yeah, I remember don it was one of
the this was doking and it was one of the
he wasn't ever it was joke around a lot, but
there was one time and when he was up there,
he did this a joke and it was hilarious. He goes,
sid something I can't remember exactly Forbade what he said,
but basically the effect of, you know, he was really
(20:57):
you know, he got the podium out there, and he
used to go out un till the podium was out there,
isn't that So he came out and covered up his
ship and had a towel or something and then got
behind a podium. Yeah, you know, this is something I
can It is a podiums he goes, this is something
I can really get behind. I thought that was pretty
good for Dawn. I mean it was good.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Yeah, No, it's it's clever. It's clever. I like it,
you know. And also before I lose it, because we
had part of a conversation off the air about things
that you may not remember because you've done so much.
When you were on five years ago, we were talking
about your album Seamless, and I was talking to you
about that off the air and you're like what, I'm like, uh,
(21:41):
And I had to go look it up again. It's
it's what to be so accomplished and write so much
music that you can even that you have the luxury
of forgetting it, which is is kind of special. And
again you make me feel better because my memory sucks,
so for you to kind of temporarily forget an album
is kind of interesting.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Probably forgotten more stuff than I than I remember, but
there's only when room in your brain for so much
and how you know how useful is that memory?
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Sure, so let's let's I don't want to keep you
here forever. Let's try to focus on the things that
you do, hopefully remember because next year, and I don't
think I get a chance to talk to you about
this last time, will be the fortieth anniversary of Back
to the Attack, and I don't know if there are
any sort of do you have any celebration plans? You know,
(22:36):
I don't know if there's back for the attacks. I'll
be back for the attack.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
I'm unhappy they're doing that because it's inconvenient for everybody,
because they close the banks, to close the post offices.
You know what I mean, it's a national holiday. I
don't know if you knew that.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Wait next year, the whole year.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
I'm kidding.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
I've never heard that that.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Was important, and it's not. But thank you for bringing
it up. Yeah fortieth Yeah around our house, boy, that's
all we do is pay back played back for the
attack music. The kids are like, daddy, Daddy, play back
for the attack again. I'm like, and they dress up,
you know, like Don Dacin and the band. It's this
(23:14):
whole thing.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Do they really they dress up as the dry humor?
And I thought that was my responsibility. Your here, George.
You have bested me. You have bested me in dry
humor and being subtle.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
That's not context.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
It's not going to try to compeat an care.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Uh So what do you get if you win? You?
Speaker 1 (23:39):
What if you get? If you win? You hopefully you
just make the audience laugh more. I can send you.
I don't know. I have nothing to give you. I have,
I have my love and respect, but you already have that.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
Oh I appreciate that thank you. Well, what could be
better than that? Thank you? Uh?
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Any fun memories of because I thought maybe you were
going to say, and hopefully it would have been real,
like your were dressing up like Freddy Krueger and asking
you to play you know, dream Warriors. But any I
was just hoping any fun memories of the filming the
video or writing the song, or meeting Robert England, any
fun Nightmare on Elm Street stories you may have.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Well, when you think of nightmare on Elm Street, I
don't think that that conflates with the word fun very well.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
You know, I'm a horror guy, so yeah, that's but I.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Mean, you know, when you're getting attacked by some serial child,
serial killer, you know, no boiler room, I don't think
you think how fun was.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
That you phrase it like that? Sure, yeah, but.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
No, I it was actually interesting. I mean it was
Freddy was in full makeup, of course, because we were
doing the video and he had to be and well,
I can't remember. Patricia Arquette, I think was the girl,
and she was very young at the time, and we
all got along really well. And you know, probably the
(25:05):
most bizarre thing, which I've mentioned before, which is slightly
ashamed of. But is that Freddie and I were just
doing coke all night off his razor blade fingers in
the trailer.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Yeah, true story.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Yeah, you know he had that hand glove. I do
the thing that we did the coke with, which is
that's pretty cool?
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Yeah, yeah, I think so that's cooler than than murder.
Do you think drugs? Drugs are murder? Which one is
more fun? You think?
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Well? Once?
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Well, in the in the world of Freddy Krueger.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Well, this was real life. He wasn't actually killing anybody,
but it was really I just wish I had a
video or a picture of that. That would be pretty
cool because that's rock and roll, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
It doesn't get much more rock and roll than that.
Don't do drugs, kids, but if you do, do it
off of Freddy's glove, that's the way to do it,
you know.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
Uh, one last thing, because we were talking about last time,
he told a great story about because obviously this is
a guns of Roses themed podcast. If you can't tell
by the name or the stuff behind me, uh, you
told a cool story about how you have a similar
amp or you had a similar amp as slash He
had it for appetite, you have it for back for
(26:23):
the attack. Uh So that was a really cool story.
I shared that recently on social media when you were
coming back on and people are excited about that. But
just curious if you had any other uh gen r
stories of people perhaps of you know, meeting them on
the because when I had Don on, he told a
great story about when he saw like it wasn't the
(26:44):
hell house, but before they broke, when Izzy lived in
a closet. So I don't know if did you know
the guns of Roses guys back then before they broke,
or did you know them until you know, after appetite
and all that the success came.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
You no, no them money. But you know, we're all
running in the same circles, so you do run into
people with the rainbow. And there was an altercation that
the Rainbow once that I was involved in that I
had something to do with them. But I have kids
and grandkids and now it's all I'm talking about.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
That's fine. Yeah, well then I'll ask a safe question,
what do you think about?
Speaker 2 (27:22):
But there were guns, coke, booze and fast cars and
women involved and fighting.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Okay whatever, I'm not that kind of.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Journalistic drugs hugs, not.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
Drugs hugs, night drugs, hugs, night drugs.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
I'm just lexic, So I tried. I went to the
school that I was. They asked me to go talk
to these kids, but I'm just lexic. So I got
that line. I got that thing Bards and I got
in trouble and they've never asked me back, and they
were upset with me, as they should have been. I
felt that, but it was it wasn't you know, it
was my disease.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
Drug snut hugs kids? What What's wrong? What am I
saying wrong? I'm sorry, George that that happened.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
I broke out Freddy Krueger glove and did a line.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Well, that might have been that might have been the problem.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Some of these kids, you know, traumatized for years after that.
I'm kidding, None of that happened.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
I they don't sure, Sure, Well, I'm not going to
be that. I'm not that journalist that likes to dig
for dirt. So you know, if that G and R
story comes out one day, great, If not, it's it's it,
left it, leave it in the past.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Thing for my career, I mean, I'm really working on
my career. Growing my career, you know what I mean,
Because it's seven at almost seventy two. You know, I'm
really thinking I've got this whole you know, window of
advancement opportunity waiting for me. So I'm really working on,
you know, boosting my career. So if any of these
kind of lucid stories would really help, you know, because
that's what people want to read about. And see they
(28:52):
don't want to hear the boy what kind of strings
did you use on back for the attack? You know,
I think that people do.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
I don't know people do, and they like hearing your
gear talk. I mean, I would just be being imposer if
I asked you about it because I don't know any
I'm just not a musician, so be lost on me.
I wish you know, if you're on again, I'll bring
on a guitarist friend that could talk here with you.
But no people care about that stuff. And like I said,
I don't you know, hearing the crazy stories could be fun,
you know, but at the same time, these are people,
(29:20):
you have families, and those stories happened. It could be
fun for us, but I don't know the ramification is
going to happen. So I'm not that kind of journalist
or podcast hoaster or radio guy. So you know, just
the the cliff Notes version was a good enough for me.
So let's like kind of end here. Because you were
talking about you're writing for a New Lynch Mob. What
(29:40):
can you expect when can we expect for that to
come to fruition New Lynch Mob.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
That's a that's a hard question to answer because it's
really it's really up to the label, you know, and
there's a lot of considerations there that I won't burn
you with. But you know, release dates are tricky and
I can't force people to do something they don't want
to do. So basically, I want to see things come
(30:12):
out immediately when I finish some work because I want
people to hear it in I think it's relative to,
you know, a certain time frame because you're writing the
music now, you know, and that's events, universal events, personal events,
everything shape that. And then I think if you wait
(30:36):
too long, it could potentially be taking it out of context,
you know, taking the music out of a relevant context.
I don't know if that's true or not, but I
think about that. I think, well, this record, you know,
it's it's not that it has an expiration date on it.
But there's a record I recently somewhat recently finished called
Cassandra's Crossing as a second Cassandra's Crossing record, and I'm
(31:00):
really proud of that came out great label has just
is sitting on it, sitting on it, sitting on I
don't think it'll come out for It'll be about two
years after I finished it. It will come out. Oh wow,
And at that point I'm just like, what record was that?
What it's like? If they just released seamless, you know,
(31:21):
I'd be like, what's that?
Speaker 1 (31:22):
Wow?
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Yeah, it's because you know, when you do some work,
you want some it seemed I don't know if it
seems like it's I mean, if you look at a
classic timeless record, maybe it doesn't matter when it came out.
It's going to be great in nineteen seventy eight, it'll
be great in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
I get Yeah, I know, I understand that part of it.
But the eagerness, the fact that it would take two
years and your right, especially with the music, did you
create all the environment of what's happening now and then
have it be delayed so much? So let's just go
back to what we said before. You need to have
your George Lynch to have his own record label and
just do things the way you want to do it.
(32:05):
Maybe that's the next the next step.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
Yeah, you wouldn't want that. I'm really bad at thisiness.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
Okay, fair enough, I take it back.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
That's my wife. I'm not allowed anywhere near a bank
account whatever.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
Yeah, well that's okay, that's okay. That's when that's when
I we're not all good at anything. I think I
have my wife take care most of it, and so
I'm just like, tell me whatever you need, just let
me venmo to you.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Just I don't. I don't.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
I can't handle it. So I'm in the same school
as you. George. Thank you so much for your time today.
You're appreciate. I think I don't know how I forgot
how funny you are, but you are. You're so funny.
So just thank you for that. Because the music, thank you,
but just the humor and the fun conversation today, I
appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
You're welcome. You know, I've been doing stand up comedy. Yeah,
you're looking at me like I'm lying, but I'm not.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
I am looking at you like you're lying. If I
missed that, like, when have you been doing stand up?
Speaker 2 (33:08):
There were just one offs. I did three and I
but I do have more coming up. I did two
cruise ships, you know, rock cruises, one of which the
only thing I did on the cruise ship was the
stand up. My band wasn't even there. And then I played.
I played a club in Saint Lois called Funny Bones. Okay,
I did that. They me to do that because it
was an off day and we played a show the
(33:30):
night before and we're playing a show the next night.
And the guy, the club owner, was at the show
and he says, do you want to come in and
I'll pay you an X amount of money and come
out and do a thing because he thought I was
funny during the show because I talked. Sometimes during you know,
our performances, I'll spend a lot of time goofing around
in between songs, which isn't necessarily a good idea. But anyways,
(33:52):
they got me that gig and it went great, like
so I was like, I really liked doing this. So
I had a I had my bigger show on the
Monsters of Rock Cruise and it was sold out. It
was like eighteen hundred people all the bands are on
the side of the stage, a lot of pressure. I
spent about four or five days preparing, and then ten
(34:15):
minutes before I went on backstage in the wings and
three professional comedians had gone on before me. They're opening
for me. Done this once in my life, And that
first time it was just sort of I was just
winging it. I don't know what I was doing, and
I'm talking off the top of my head like we
are now. And so this time I had prepared stuff,
you know, I was going to add notes, and I
(34:39):
put my notes down this ring of notes in this
quadriplegic woman's motorized vehicle's basket so I could sign an autograph,
take a picture, and forgot I put it in there.
He took off. I can't go up here and do this.
Everybody and their mother, every band member, everybody's up there.
(35:00):
The place was packed to the gills on the theater.
I was like, oh, I was nervous, and I haven't
been nervous about playing live in decades, you know, I
can't remember the last time I was had butterflies or anything.
And I told my wife, will go. I don't know
if I can do it. I'm so nervous, which is
a good thing maybe, But what am I doing? It's surreal,
seventy one years old. I'm not a comedian. What the
(35:21):
fuck am I doing up here? But there's something about
it that I really love trying to do, you know,
And I did it and it was extremely successful. So
I'm thinking, do I want to do this? And am
I good enough to really do it? So I'm doing
a few more and just see how it goes. But
(35:42):
it is very stressful. It is because it's not something
that I'm comfortable with. You know, it's not like playing
guitar whole life.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
That's cool, man's that's that is stressful. That it's a
stressful life, and that's it takes a lot of courage
to do that at this At this point, they come up,
you got your five minutes set or whatever it was.
How long was the set?
Speaker 2 (36:05):
It was supposed to be seven and a half minutes.
I did thirty minutes.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
Thirty minutes. Nice, Well, we need a George Lynch special
on Netflix. Now.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
Well, here's the thing. I was actually shocked at how
unoffended people generally were by saying things that I you know,
in normal conversation, you would never get away with saying
(36:36):
in play company or even unplayed company. I think comedy
and music are the two things that somehow give us
an avenue to you know, I don't know if it's
express or what the term even is, or experience language
and whatever it is that, you know, a way of
(36:58):
communicating something that is noncommunity capable in any other way.
It's very essential, like aaron and water, you know, I
don't know, I don't know what it is. Again, I'm
thinking too hard.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
What a conversation we've had George Lynch today. I appreciate
your time really.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
Talk about guitars of that album.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
Did we We did a bit, so yeah, if you
people want to check out the voodo.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
I don't really have too much with guitars and other stuff.
I'm more involved in, like every other person in the world,
just other things that life, you know, burdens you with
or occupies your time with. So what's It's not like
I sit around play guitar all day and think about that,
which was I hardly do ever.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
Actually, I appreciate you holding your guitar the entire episode.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
Just yeah, it's kind of a prop really, so I
can keep up the charade.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
What's the best place people can keep up with you?
And and hopefully it won't take two years for the
next Lynch Mob or anything you have now, whether it's
stand updates, what's the best place that people can follow.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
Crossing will be coming out next year from what I understand. Uh,
there's a live lynch Mob record coming out really soon.
It hasn't already been released, it may have already been released.
And then I've got a studio lynch Mob record I'm
working on. So there's those three. That's the I can
think of off the top of my head that are
in the pipeline. Other than that, you know, just find me,
(38:27):
plug my name in you I'll pop up somewhere. I
got a website called I don't even know how I
thought of this name. I got a one of them
fancy Hollywood naming services that they have rock stars and
they and I paid them a bunch of money and
they they gave me a name for my websites called
George Lynch dot com.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
Who would have thought about it?
Speaker 2 (38:51):
I never thought of that. I was like, well, how'd
you guys think of that?
Speaker 1 (38:54):
That's cool, brilliant.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
Pay two thousand dollars and then I have all the
other things too, Facebook, my Space, my.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
Space, okay, friends there even I.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
Don't know what that is. I have only fans too.
I mean, nobody wants to see us seventy one year
old guy fucking having sex.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
Well, I mean, after all this, uh talk about the
naked beach, I don't know, maybe that this could be
comedy only fans. There's so much life left to live
for you, George Lynch. Let's see what's what's to come
for you.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
I'm just basically a fucking horror. I'll do anything for money.
But honestly, as you asked, my inspiration was, and I
lied and said, oh, the music and ship. But really
I just like money. That's that's truth.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
But don't tell anybody, Okay, the screwge duck of the
rock and roll world, George Lynch, I'd rather say the
Norm McDonald of the rock and roll world. How about
that be good? Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (40:01):
I like like, if Norm McDonald and Jeff Beck fucked
and had a baby, I'd want it to be me.
That'd be cool, right.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
I hope that's a quote in one of the online magazines.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
If they pick up the quote, it's up to you.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
Oh, I's Michael, I'm gonna use it, but I want
someone else to recognize how brilliant that is. I want
that to be on your tombstone, my friend. I want
that to be on your mausoleum, you know, if you
should you pass away, I want that to say that
loving father husbands and if Jeff Beck fuck nor McDonald's,
this is what you would get. Earlies George Lynch.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
Right right spot, McDope. Well, uh, that's all good advice.
I appreciate the good advice, and I'll take it to heart.
Hopefully that happen. And h I want to thank you
for your time and patience with me. I appreciate it.
I like keeping things interesting instead just talk about the
same thing every time.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
Me too, you know. I always just want to, you know,
get to business foodoo wiseguys dot com and make sure
I do the right thing. But I I like this conversation.
You're you're a person, and we don't always get to
see that, you know, through the music. So I like
connecting with somebody with the time that I have and
having laughs, having a deep conversation, seeing where it goes,
and hopefully it's just not overly serious when it doesn't
(41:20):
need to be. But uh, the people, that's the people
who listen. My guests get something out of it. I
know I got something out of it. So thank you.
Speaker 2 (41:28):
You have five hundred and something interviews.
Speaker 1 (41:30):
This was episode five hundred and seventy. Yeah, hotly, crap, George.
I hope we get to do this again. You're you're awesome.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
Thank you, buddy. It was fun and h Yeah. See
the other thing I can interview, I mean, by definition,
is supposed to be about you, me being me and
me or whoever. But I do I'm comfortable with that.
I don't like that. So I like just kind of
veering off the path and maybe talking about you or
something else, you know, as I think it's more interesting
(42:00):
for the listener, Isn't that the point?
Speaker 1 (42:02):
I think so, And that's why I say that I'll
talk about myself. It's not an ego thing where there
are a lot of you know, podcast radio people that
will just cut people off and tell them, you know,
I want to share my story. It's so you can
hear my story. So you're just otherwise you're just sitting
there talking about yourself, and that's not I don't think
it's uncomfortable. Yeah, it's not fine. I don't like doing that,
(42:24):
you know, so I I respect the person on the
other side. I'm not just be like okay, here, yes,
no tell me. I'm like, no, let's let's let's connect
in this medium that we've created. So uh, I'm I'm
glad you get it and we've Uh. This is one
of the more fun interviews I've had in a while,
So thank you. All right. So that does have with
this episode of Appetite for Distortion? When will you see
(42:44):
the next one? In the words of Axl Rose concerning
Chinese democracy, I don't know as soon as a word,
but you'll see it.
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