February 5, 2026 • 34 mins
Tailgunner is on the rise. Judas Priest guitar legend K.K. Downing has dubbed them “the next big thing" and produced their new album, "Midnight Blitz." We talk to Tom (aka Bones) and Rhea about their growth in the UK metal scene, Guns N' Roses fandom, and thoughts on the Grammys.
Plus, "Shotgun News" with more talk about a potential new GN'R album and the Ozzy tribute with Slash and Duff. Guest appearance from Baby Brownstone.
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Plus, "Shotgun News" with more talk about a potential new GN'R album and the Ozzy tribute with Slash and Duff. Guest appearance from Baby Brownstone.
More info:
https://linktr.ee/tailgunnerhq
https://www.facebook.com/tailgunnerhq/
https://www.instagram.com/tailgunnerhq/
https://label.napalmrecords.com/tailgunner
Our website:
www.afdpod.com
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I bought a Les Paul from watching Slash and just
learned the whole Appetite album from like the age of
eleven to sixteen and really just worked on that.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Welcome to the podcast Appetite for Distortion, episode number five
hundred and fifty. My name is Brando, an Appetite for
Discovery episode, and I'm really excited to have a couple
members of Tail Gunner. I'm so excited to speak with
both Tom and Rhea. How are you both today? I'm good?
Speaker 3 (00:34):
How are you?
Speaker 2 (00:35):
I'm good? Is the because you wear you guys? There
might be a delay if all going overseas? Are you
both in the UK currently?
Speaker 4 (00:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (00:44):
UK?
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (00:47):
Now? Yeah for now?
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Yeah, because you guys are about to go on tour
with Fozzy and they hit a bunch of festivals and
do a bunch of cool things.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
See.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
I wanted to feel at home with you guys. I
got my hard Rock Cafe London shirt.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
Is that okay? I'm with you guys, I've I've walked
past it a few times. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
I did the touristy stuff a couple of years ago
with my with my son on his first birthday, we
crossed Abbey Road and yeah, So we had to visit
all the stuff, and of course I saw the guns
of Roses memorabilia. Well we'll get to that. We'll get
to the guns and Roses stuff. I'll ria you have
the Appetite for destruction poster in the back. I love that.
But let's we got to talk about tail Gunner. So
(01:31):
if I can start off with a quote from your producer,
some people may know him KK Downing, formerly of course
of Judish Priest. So KK he says, tail Gunner is
a band we should have seen emerge years ago from
the UK. They personally, they personify everything that is heavy metal.
(01:52):
They are loud and proud and totally descended from everyone
that is in metal that has gone before. Their energy
and rawness, together with their brand of metal, incorporates all
the godfathers and much more. Maiden Priest, Motorhead, def Leopard.
The list is end list, endless. The band has a
youthful freshness and uniqueness that no doubt will no doubt
(02:15):
elevate them to being a true metal favorite of the fans. So,
I mean, that's that's quite high praise. How did KK
get involved? I know we're going to backtrack a little
bit here. How did KK get involved with you? I
know this is going to be your second record coming
out Midnight Blitz, So how long have you known him?
And let's kind of start the story of Tailgunner here
(02:35):
if I can.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
So we put out our debut EP, Crash Dive in
December twenty twenty two, and someone we don't know who
if we ever find out, you know, I always say
that we are this guy a million beers, but he
got this EP two KK and he loved it, and
you know, had his manager, who is now our manager
(03:00):
Art contact us and say, you know, KK loves the band,
he's making the comeback and he would love you guys
to open the first KK Priest show at his venue,
the Steel Mill, alongside Paul Deano as well. So it
was a bit of maiden Priest, you know, probably our
two biggest influences. Really the perfect show for us, and
that was the show that exposed us really to such
(03:23):
a wide audience. It was our first big support show.
The stage was bigger than most venues we'd played up
until that point. And you know, we stayed in touch
and did a tour with kk's Priest in the UK
in the summer of twenty twenty four, and when it
came time to make this new record, because the first
one was self produced, we knew that, you know, we
(03:44):
wanted to work with a producer and someone that had
that credibility, and of course KK co produced all those
classic Priest albums with Halford Tipton and Tom Allen, and
you know, we were like, we're in this very surreal
and fortunate scenario where we're friends with KK down and
why don't we just call him and ask him? You know,
I did, and we spent a couple of days on
(04:05):
the phone going back and forth, and you know, he
was he was into the idea and into the project,
and you know, thank god, I think it turned out
really great for us.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
That's so cool, and I think it did. And the
fans are speaking. I know the album is not out yet.
When when's the other release date?
Speaker 4 (04:21):
Friday sixth?
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Were there or nearly there? But you can go watch
the video for Midnight Blitz And where I'm going to
is if you night Before I get to the comments,
it's been out for a couple of months. I think
at this point, like about eight hundred thousand views. It's
going it's gonna hit a million. It's gonna hit a
million views, and that's really not that's hard to do
(04:43):
in itself. But if you look at the comments, it's
not just KK saying, it's all these fansying and where
people just really are they don't like anything new or
you know, who are these people trying to be or emulate?
How does that make you feel? Because there is a
lot of they could be You're doing fun the beginning,
but now you have this maybe added pressure of Kk's
(05:03):
blessing and doing all these things, but now it's like, wow,
people are really seeing what KK seeing. So how do
you how do you both feel about that? Is this
ride is almost kind of beginning for you guys.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Yeah, it feels it feels good.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
Can you hear me better now? By the way, I'm
just yeah, it feels really good.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
I mean, we spent a long time on the album
and there's a lot of back and forth in different
versions of different songs, and so it's nice to be
able to finally get out there and to actually see
the fans enjoy it and like it.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Yeah, where did you you guys initially meet? Did you
all meet in a marsh pit or a school? How
did how did the band start like who joined first,
and uh yeah, I wanted to kind of like the beginning,
the beginning stages, the beginning mission statements of the band.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
You know, it was such a long and arduous process
to from this band.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
It really was like willing into existence.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
I think that the thing is, you know, I put
the band together and the goal was, you know, in
Great Britain we're responsible for inventing and in my opinion,
at least perfecting heavy metal with Maiden Priest, Motorhead, Saxon Venom,
you know, and then really not doing anything with the
style for such a long time. And I think because
(06:26):
there's more credibility I think in Britain given to innovation
and the risk quality a lot of the time because
we invent so much stuff musically, and we were just
wanted to put together the band that we were all
hoping would come along for our generation growing up, and
you know, maybe never really did, at.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
Least from this country.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
So you know, it was a two year process of
posting everywhere online and flying and metal bars and you know,
guitar shops and everything all over the UK to get
this line up together. And you know, Rea actually joined
just a little while before we released the debut, we
had to part ways with the other guitar player that
(07:06):
was there, and she lent the whole set in like
three days and played the festival with.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
Us and you know, and killed it. So that was
that was really really cool.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
And I remember saying to you know, we do a
cover of Painkiller and we play it like twice as
fast live, just for that added pressure. But yeah, it
was a long process to get this band together.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Okay, And not to out anybody, you both there are
still in your early twenties. If I could say that,
oh man, yeah, sure, you're in your early twenties. So
all right, fine, thirty thirty, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
Well you look good, Tom, Yeah, that's that's what everyone says.
So we'll leave it there.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Okay, fair fair, fair enough, because I guess with the
reason why I ask is just because the Graham guys
were recording this. The Grammys were yesterday, and you just
see what the next generation likes, you know, the music
that's popular. You know, young Blood wins the award, but
not even I don't even know if it was televised.
It was early in the day about rock and the
(08:04):
Ozzie tribute was just much later in the show, and
even though it was incredible, just one song where other
artists got more. So, I mean rock still kind of
being disrespected. I guess it's always has been disrespected, But
I guess what has it been like the scene? I
guess being a younger band, if I can just put
that blanket statement on, is it harder to find a
(08:25):
younger fans? Or how do you feel the metal scene?
Is it healthy? Because again, if you look at the comments,
if you really listen to the music, it's it is healthy.
So I just I just want to get to a
point where we have to stop saying, oh, rock is
dead or any of those things. So how do you
feel about the environment of rock and roll where you're
(08:45):
from and when you're on tour? You know, what do
you see as far as the audience. Is it all
older geezers like me? Or is it youth or is
it everywhere? What do you see?
Speaker 1 (08:55):
I think with the type of metal we play with
heavy metal, classic Britain heavy metal, it's not that common
in in the UK. I think we're one of the
only bands that are bringing it back. To be honest,
It's way more common in Europe and We see that
a lot more in Europe with the fans in terms
of the ages, though we get a mix it tends
(09:16):
to be older fans, but when we play major cities
like Manchester and London, it's actually a majority of young people,
which is nice to see that it's still being kept
alive in the younger generation. And with this second album out,
we've we've really cross paths between we're not we're not
just putting ourselves in a box of a specific genre,
and we've got a lot of influences from other different
(09:36):
things and we've seen the effect that has and we've
had younger fans become interested in the music from from
listening to that and from preaching out of just being
very classic new album like the first album.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
The fans are there. I don't know how you guys feel.
I don't want to be a a hater or a
negative person, you know Again, Grammy's were last night and
it's been a topic of converce station young Blood. That's
not to tease it too much. Like I spoke about
him with Matt Sorum, who recorded on the Aerosmith EP.
I spoke about him with Peter Napoliello, former Geffen guy
(10:11):
and he seems to be like the face of a
rock right now, which is interesting. And he said something
about it because he won for the Best Rock Performance
for Changes. He's like, we're coming for you. Pop music,
rock is coming back. But I think it's if you
look again, if you look at bands like yours, you
(10:33):
know it's it's there. So what do you who names
some other artists because I think it's we need more
more names that that maybe that you're touring with, that
you played with, the tail Gunner has played with, that
we should see out there. Because I didn't want to
keep just mentioning whenever we talking about new music, it's
always young Blood at least for rock. No, no, no,
(10:54):
That's why I wanted to talk to you guys. There's
plenty of other like straight up metal, hard rock, some
maybe some other bands that you've toured with, you've played
with that you want to give a shout out to.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Yeah, sure, I mean the first thing I would say
with young Blood and that Grammy win is the Adam
Wakeman that played keys on that performance, and it's just
you know, won a Grammy for that obviously with young
Blood plays on the single of us that's coming out tomorrow,
that's on the record, so we can't really have any
complaints about that Grammy win because now we have a
(11:26):
guy that's won a Grammy on the record in the
week of release.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
So it's it's worked out really well for us. So
you know, thank you, Young Blood, I guess for that.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
And I think that the interesting thing with rock and
metal is you'll always have someone on the face of
it that is that representation to the mainstream that may
or may not necessarily represent the genre on a deeper level.
And that's okay. You know, we're not doing the same
thing that Young Blood does with you know, not as
(11:56):
I guess, surface level, and it's not a dig.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
At his music.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
You need people like that, But I think heavy metal
has always been its own self contained thing and you
don't necessarily need that mainstream acknowledgment for it to have
a solid fan base for it to be successful. It's
you know, and I include women in this, but it's
something of a boys club, and I think that's the
way it kind of should be. You know, we don't
(12:20):
want it to be too popular and to accepted by everyone,
but there is a lot of great bands out there.
I mean, they're not so new now, but I'm a
huge fan of Airborne, the Swedish band hardcore Superstar. You know,
we just told with hammer Fall they're a great band.
As for like really new bands. You've got Wings of
Steel from the States. I think they're from la They
(12:41):
just put out the second record, really cool band.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
Enforcer Riot City.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
We're seeing bands now come out of the UK following
in the wake of our debut album that have said
to us. You know that you guys made us realize
that actually you can play this style in the modern
day and be from the UK and actually get somewhere.
So that's really positive to see. You know, there's a
great band Rattle Snakes. The singers incredible. I'm really into
their music, so it's it's definitely there cool.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
I want to take this opportunity to learn from you
guys a bit because obviously I'm in my little Guns
n' Roses bubble a little bit. I mean I do
branch out every now and then, but all the new
music I told you my son who's all playing with
blocks right now, it's like Guns of Roses and the
ABC's and itsy Bitsy Spider and Velvet revolver all in
(13:30):
a mix. It's all. It's all in a mix. But
I'm I'm glad that you guys are also Guns and
Roses fans as we can, I guess talk about new music.
I don't know how much we could talk about it
with gn R here. I don't know if do you
hear any of those new Slash interviews where he says
it's gonna happen like all regionally.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
I'm yeah, I saw those interviews, the same same quotes
that you know, Richard Forts and things were saying back
in twenty ten or whatever.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
Let's say.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
But I hope you just made a lot more fans
with your comment, Tom, because that's what a lot of
my followers say. But I don't know, Slash. I'm a
I'm a hopeless romantic, I guess when it comes to
the Guns of Roses, but not everything could be appetite
for destruction area and not everything. So uh, I when
I was given the links to the bands and both
(14:19):
your social media and all that stuff, and I'm peruising
and I'm looking at Ria doing all these solos and
things like that on our Instagram, I'm like, oh, appetite
for destruction behind her. Oh yeah, now definitely. Let's I
was always obviously gonna have you guys on before, but
now I'm like, yeah, definitely now, so uh not everything's
gonna be appetite. You know, I understand that, but uh
what what swear? What does gin R mean to you both?
(14:42):
Because you said before we recorded it, you're both not
only fans of guns or roses. I feel uncomfortable saying
this because I'm very bad at taking compliments. That you're
both fans of me and the show's that's thank you,
that's that was you said that. That was a very interesting.
I don't think anybody listens to me other than my
wife and my son in the other room, and that's
(15:02):
all I think it listens to me. It's just me
and a microphone. So yeah, talk to me about like
your guns and Roses fandom. It's cool to have you guys,
you know, be fans as well.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
I think for me, it started off with Slash obviously,
being a guitarist, I started learning guitar when I was nine,
and I discovered guns when I was eleven, and then
I bought a Les Paul from watching Slash and just
learned the whole appetite album from like the age of
like eleven to sixteen and really just like worked on
that and so Slash was a massive influence on my
(15:36):
playing for a long time. And then even after discovering
like so many new bands, Guns have always remained like
my favorite one. Like it's just they're just the one
that I always always go back to and i've been
They've been my favorite band for like twelve years now,
so it's not going to change.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Okay, favorite band mine too. What a coincidence?
Speaker 4 (15:57):
No way, that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
What's the I guess your favorite Slash parts to play
and maybe most difficult for you to play.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
I think his working a strange just really cool because
he does loads of techniques that you don't hear on
the other tracks. I think I really like the riffs
that he writes in Appetite. I just think they're so
raw and dirty, like they're exactly how they should be.
And the hardest solo from Guns, I think, do you
(16:34):
know what it gets slept on but sweechild of mind,
the the you know, the big lick that gets into
the main solo and he uses some of the Phrygian mode.
He even fluffs that up sometimes live and it's a
lot harder than it sounds actually when you're.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
First learning it.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
I appreciate that answer, Yeah, because it's if you want
to call it overplayed or whatever, I mean, it's still
there's a reason why it's overplayed. It's iconic, you know,
from the lyrics, the song, the melody, every thing about it.
So yeah, that's it's not spoken about enough. I mean
it is and it isn't in a way, so I
appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Yeah, that runs into I think it's the first solo,
the main one, just that fast bit.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Right on, right on, and Thomas, I know you don't
sound anything like Axel. You have more of a halfard
thing going on. But I don't know, do you do
you take anything away from uh from Axel or or
just maybe just your fandom. Have you ever seen them
live or anything like that.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
Yeah, I mean I played bass in the band, but
you know, I'm an I'm riangnosed, I am an odd
and Axel Rose fanboy. G ANDR is also my favorite band,
has been forever, and you know he is my favorite musician,
my biggest influence. I've been obsessed with G and R
(17:50):
forever and like, to me, rock and roll and heavy
metal just means like freedom and the freedom to be
yourself and to do what you want without compromise, and I,
to me is the ultimate embodiment of that rock and
roll spirit. And you know, I don't think anyone's ever
really been like that before or after to that extent,
for better or worse. Sometimes for the sake of his
(18:12):
band and you know, career, but that's really you know,
who I draw so much of my inspiration from and
always will and you know, as a bass player, of course,
stuff is huge for me.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
So you know, I like how twenty minutes into this
that I realize your bones in that I don't know why.
I guess like that the first and last name, and
I knew that was like the I don't know why
I thought you I know your tom. I don't know
why this whole time I thought you were the singer.
So let's see five hundred and fifty episodes. So fucking up,
that's me. That's that's me. So yeah, so your bones?
(18:46):
So where does bones come from? I should have called
you bones the entire time or no?
Speaker 5 (18:50):
Yeah, sure, okay, all right, No bones comes from When
I was a kid, I played in the band in
school and the guitar players just started cooling.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Mere.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
I think there's a pirate called tom Bones, and you know,
I always liked how it sounded and thought it was
a cool you know, stage name and all the rest
of it.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
So it is a cool name. I wish you put
that as your your zoom.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
I think it did it automatically. I don't think I've
got a choice, but I need to work on that.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Okay, Yeah, mindsets Brandon Weisler. When I changed it to Brando,
what I'm doing doing the radio? All right, Sorry about that,
but still great conversation. Nonetheless. So I mean that even
parlays itself more into the Grammys because Slash and Duff
were both last there last night representing really well. Can
you imagine sitting first time I've watched Grammys and like
(19:39):
the Grammys in like sixty years, and I'm only forty two,
so I don't I don't understand the man imagine sitting
behind Slash and one of those things he wears, wearing
the top hat in the audience. I just think that
that's incredibly funny, awesome. So that's that's awesome, man. I
really appreciate you both being in here and have you
played the States at all yet, don't know.
Speaker 4 (19:59):
No, We're working on Okay.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Okay, all right, Because I'm my son Horrison Rex his
real name, Baby Brownstone his radio name. I need to
clarify that because some people think I named him after
the heroine. I'm like, no, no, which is I like
the literations and I'm Brandon Brando. So Baby Brownstone. He's
already seen Dave Matthews and Paul McCartney. He has headphones.
We gotta take him to see GNR. We got to
(20:23):
take them to see Tail Gunners. We got to get
you you guys over here. Especially with Fozzy. I want
to see Chris Jericho live. Man, have you have you?
Have you met Fozzy at all? Have you maybe? Or
is this gonna be like your first kind of for
ra with them?
Speaker 4 (20:39):
Yeah, this will be the first time.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Okay, all right, wrestling fans, either of you or no.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
No, I don't think.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
I mean, I can't speak for real, but I didn't
have a clue who he was, to be honest. The
tour thing, it's just it's not as big in the UK,
you know. And I Mercella Josh. She is a like
part time wrestler and I was speaking to him about
the tour and he's like, dude, Funk, like you you
have to do this too.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Yeah, now it's some they're they're fine. I mean, I
like their music, but yeah, Chris Jericho is a huge
wrestler and a huge guns or Roses fan. Actually, you know,
he makes some merch. I don't watch a e W.
I forget what the what the name of the faction was,
but it had the appetite, skull and cross and it
was like Jericho and his his members and stuff like that.
See it all ties in together. See that's what I
(21:25):
six degrees of g N R. Bacon, That's what I
call it. Here, So Bones the bassist in Ria the guitarist,
I love it from Tail Gunner. Thank you both so
much for coming on the show. And I hope we
get to do this again. Yeah for sure, right, thank
you Bones, and thank you Rhea. I can't even make
(21:48):
an excuse for that. How did that even happen? I
think I'm talking to the lead singer the entire time.
My good thing, I didn't ask him singer questions the
entire time. At least I own it. At least I
own it. It just had a normal name on the
pop up, and I was like, oh, the singer has
a normal name. I think that that's him. And I
knew that, you know, as I mentioned to Tera looking
at her instagram because she's a g n R fan,
(22:09):
you know, that name resonated with me. But he played
it off well, he didn't storm off. God, I guess
think of all the mistakes that I've made in this podcast,
despite all the research I do, it's a to err
as human right. When I had this is years ago.
Steve Gorman, of course former Black Croson and his band
(22:33):
trigger Happy or trigger Hippie. See, I made that mistake.
I made that mistake, and I had it written in
front of me, and I just said, you know what,
let me just leave it in. I'ma leave it and
he's like, yeah, yeah, let's just leave it in. He
didn't want to, he didn't want to do it again.
He's just like, just leave it in.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
Trigger happy, trigger hippie, trigger hippie.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
Hi.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
I have trigger Hippie written down, so I'm not an idiot.
I guess misread it, so I'm partially an idiot. And
I could re edit this, but I'm not going to because.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
I let her just exactly. That's rock and roll.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Or when I said it was with Nancy Wilson and
she did a song with with I think Doug McKagan.
And in the late Taylor Hawkins called something in the ballroom.
I forget it, and I said bathroom and she started
snickering and laughing at me. Party at the angel bathroom
and hearing it. Do you really hear the influences of
(23:26):
guns or roses to food fighters and heart.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
It's it's actually ballroom. Just just to be clear, Oh,
what did I say? What did I say? I said bathroom?
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Oh my god, what's a really good title too?
Speaker 4 (23:40):
Oh man, I think it should have been bathroom. It's
getting more, you know, like, hey, rockin' man.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
That makes for a nice moment. But uh yeah, man,
this guy idiot right here you might have heard. You
might hear also my my son chirpping in the background.
Because I wanted to do something else I haven't done
in a while, because I have and done Appetite of
Discovery in a bit, how about some shotgun news news.
(24:08):
We talked about a little of the shotgun news within
the conversation with Tailgunner with the phones and Rhea. First,
I lea recap all of the Grammys I haven't watched
in years. I'm not going to go on some like
Eddie Trunk rant about rock and roll not being represented.
I mean, I say that, but I don't. You don't
need to hear more of that. It was so much
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about seeing Slash and Duff and what the the Aussie
tribute was going to be like, and it was good.
I was ready to not like it. To be honest
with you, I'm not the biggest I'm not a Post
Malone fan. I don't even want to say biggest fan.
I'm not. It's just not for me. It seems like
a nice guy kind of the same thing with young Blood.
While I'm talking about that, these the people that in
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Jelly Roll, I feel like they're always at every awards
thing and they all seem like very very nice people.
Just not that my kind of music. And that's that's okay, okay.
I'm glad there is a torch being uh held out there.
I guess by post and and young Is that what
the kids are saying Posty and uh Dom? Is that
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what the cool kids are calling young Blood and post Malone.
I don't know, but he did a really good job
at war, Pigs and Slash and Duff look as rock
and roll as ever.
Speaker 4 (25:21):
You know.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
It's just it was awesome to see. I'm glad. I
was thinking it was gonna be like at the very
end of the night and I'm like, oh god, I'm
gonna have to watch the entire Grammys. It was toward
the end. Uh, they only had one song, which was
disappointing because there were other artists who had more of
a tribute than than Ozzie did. And can you say
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roar you are a little bit away from being my
co host? Look music like, Harrison, do you like guns
and roses?
Speaker 5 (26:07):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (26:14):
Welcome?
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Can you say welcome to the podcast? An appetite for distortion?
This is the future of the podcast. It's very good.
I just showed him how to you can see his voice.
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We got it. We got it, baby, we got it.
Instead of a technical difficulties sign, I should have a
baby Brownstone difficulties sign. He's channeling. He's being like you
know in Step Brothers they say, never lose your dinosaur.
I died that. Yeah, this is why we named him
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Harrison Rex. That is you, That is you, handsome. The
performance was really good. I just wish there was more,
and I was kind of hoping for the ending solo
from Slash for More Pigs, but none of that. Regardless,
it was still I'm glad. I kind of watched along
with a lot of you on social media, and she
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was able to share some pictures that I have access
access to through through Getty Images. So it was just
a very cool night too experience. But didn't I Like
a lot of you are like, oh, this is all
I watched the Grammys for and yeah, same here. But
I am a fan of say it. I like Lola Young,
you know, she It was cool to see her because
she took like a mental health break and I was like,
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I haven't seen her in a bit, and there she was.
I'm a fan of her, her voice, and she just
seems like a very real kind of person if it's
not rock and roll. That's kind of what I look
for and gravitate towards as far as an artist, do
you seem like you're real? And that's why I like,
I've liked for a long time Lady Gaga. She seems
like a real person. And I don't know if you noticed,
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if you blinked, you might have missed it. Josh Freeze
on drums for Lady Gaga. I tweeted, it's like, is
that Josh Freese, and I had some listeners like yeah, yeah, yeah.
He tweeted about it, alre he social mediated about it,
because I think he's not only Instagram and and in Facebook.
I don't think he uses twitter x anymore. But he
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just showed his drum set up, so it wasn't much
of a photo. And I guess maybe that's why I didn't.
As I'm scrolling because Josh is usually in my feed,
they didn't see it. And then I'm like, that looks
like Josh Freese. That's so cool. Chinese democracy represented somehow
at the Grammys. So overall it was a good show.
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A little bittersweet of course that Ozzie wasn't there. But
the big, big, big shotgun news, although it depends on
who you ask, if you ask bones not that to
give a news story. Slash went on a bit of
a oppress or tour to promote the upcoming tour for
Guns and Roses, and it was more than just one interview.
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It was like a slew hand of them, or so
I should say this. I won't go to fourth Wall
with it, but the company that I work for, Premiere Radio,
put on the tour for him. So all the interviews
that he did with Ultimate Classic Rock and Loudwire, whether
it was print or on the radio, went through my company,
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and it was just these are all high level. I'm
just I'm not that if I'm ever going to get
a Slash interview, I guess this was this was not
the time to happen. But regardless, I'm very happy for
his answer because it wasn't like a slip of the tongue.
He was really strategic with all his responses. How it
was a rehash, that's what he called it, and I
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always thought that was kind of like a disservice to
this song when fans would call it. But if Slash
call nothing in Atlas the last of the rehash songs,
and that's what we're gonna call it, the old that
whatever Axel brought to them, and literally it sort of
sounds like from Slash all they just guitars and new
drums on top of it. Take them all the ones out,
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put the new ones in, and those are the new
six songs that we got. So where are Monsters? Where
are a lot of Oklahoma? There are a lot of
other songs times seven? Are they more song titles out there?
Are they really gone for good? Like? Are we never
going to see them other than in leak form? I
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don't know. But the biggest news is Slash again reconfirming
he's like and he said, well, you know what, let's
play it. I want I want poorly paraphrase. So this
is from from Sylvia and she's on COMPU station ninety
two three, I believe comp in Las Vegas.
Speaker 6 (30:57):
So here's Here's so Atlas uh and Nothing. The two
singles that are released very different from one another. But
before we go into you know, diving into that, does
releasing music song by song? Is that kind of like
where we're at now? Or is the goal still releasing
new music or like an album?
Speaker 7 (31:17):
I should say yeah, yeah, I think in this instance
it's what we're doing because we only re recorded those songs,
you know, like a couple songs here, a couple of
songs there.
Speaker 4 (31:28):
These were the last two.
Speaker 8 (31:29):
That are left to do, and we we actually did them,
not even back to back. Nothing was one and Atlas
was at a different time, but they hadn't been released yet, right,
so LEAs seeing them now and then there's really no
more of that.
Speaker 4 (31:45):
Sort of old rehash stuff to release.
Speaker 8 (31:49):
But you know, I think what we're going to we're
going to take all those all those songs and put
them on something and release that as a as a package.
And that's the next record that we're going to do
is going to be all new, original stuff, and that'll
be an actual.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
Album, all new material. I mean, that's that's what has
been bands have been clamoring for since well, I guess
since the nineteen ninety one nineteen ninety two with the Illusions.
I guess if you don't want to count the spaghetti
incident and Chinese democracy, they want all regional material with
Slash and Axle and Duff Stephen and uh it is isy.
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I know you're thinking it.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
I hear you.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Stop thinking it. It's not it's like fetch, It's like
mean girls, it's not gonna happen. I'm sorry. I'll keep
hope alive for you know, a you know, like an
appearance or something like that, or hope among hopes like
oh my god, like what if they actually wrote a
song with them, not counting joining rejoining the band. These
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are like the crazy hopes that I have but not rejoining.
That's just a ship sailed decades ago. So I'm I'm
excited for what's to come with Guns and Roses. Obviously
on tour this year, I'm taking this guy, Harrison, who
wants to play legos right now? Do you want to
bring legos to Guns and Roses? I know I have
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guns of roses legos up there if you're looking on
social media. Yeah, he's so cute.
Speaker 4 (33:17):
I love him.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
I don't care if any of you have a problem.
It's all. It's usually all positive. But again, alternative ones.
Stick with me. That people complaining I'm being a father.
I love you. I just fed him. You don't want
to eat a nice tuna fish and orange and Crunchmaster crackers.
I just gave you. You don't want to have any
of that that delicious meal while your mother is at work.
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This is the multitasking that I do. I have my
real jobs, I have the podcast, and I have father.
But you know why I keep doing this. I love
this band, I love talking about it with you and
tending year. Adversary of this podcast is in May. We're
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not slowing down, all right? That does it? With this episode,
this awkward episode of appetite for distortion. When will you
see the next one? In the words of Axl Rose
concerning Chinese democracy, I don't know as soon as the word,
but you'll see it.
Speaker 4 (34:21):
Thanks to the lame ass security. I'm going home.
I bought a Les Paul from watching Slash and just
learned the whole Appetite album from like the age of
eleven to sixteen and really just worked on that.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Welcome to the podcast Appetite for Distortion, episode number five
hundred and fifty. My name is Brando, an Appetite for
Discovery episode, and I'm really excited to have a couple
members of Tail Gunner. I'm so excited to speak with
both Tom and Rhea. How are you both today? I'm good?
Speaker 3 (00:34):
How are you?
Speaker 2 (00:35):
I'm good? Is the because you wear you guys? There
might be a delay if all going overseas? Are you
both in the UK currently?
Speaker 4 (00:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (00:44):
UK?
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (00:47):
Now? Yeah for now?
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Yeah, because you guys are about to go on tour
with Fozzy and they hit a bunch of festivals and
do a bunch of cool things.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
See.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
I wanted to feel at home with you guys. I
got my hard Rock Cafe London shirt.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
Is that okay? I'm with you guys, I've I've walked
past it a few times. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
I did the touristy stuff a couple of years ago
with my with my son on his first birthday, we
crossed Abbey Road and yeah, So we had to visit
all the stuff, and of course I saw the guns
of Roses memorabilia. Well we'll get to that. We'll get
to the guns and Roses stuff. I'll ria you have
the Appetite for destruction poster in the back. I love that.
But let's we got to talk about tail Gunner. So
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if I can start off with a quote from your producer,
some people may know him KK Downing, formerly of course
of Judish Priest. So KK he says, tail Gunner is
a band we should have seen emerge years ago from
the UK. They personally, they personify everything that is heavy metal.
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They are loud and proud and totally descended from everyone
that is in metal that has gone before. Their energy
and rawness, together with their brand of metal, incorporates all
the godfathers and much more. Maiden Priest, Motorhead, def Leopard.
The list is end list, endless. The band has a
youthful freshness and uniqueness that no doubt will no doubt
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elevate them to being a true metal favorite of the fans. So,
I mean, that's that's quite high praise. How did KK
get involved? I know we're going to backtrack a little
bit here. How did KK get involved with you? I
know this is going to be your second record coming
out Midnight Blitz, So how long have you known him?
And let's kind of start the story of Tailgunner here
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if I can.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
So we put out our debut EP, Crash Dive in
December twenty twenty two, and someone we don't know who
if we ever find out, you know, I always say
that we are this guy a million beers, but he
got this EP two KK and he loved it, and
you know, had his manager, who is now our manager
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Art contact us and say, you know, KK loves the band,
he's making the comeback and he would love you guys
to open the first KK Priest show at his venue,
the Steel Mill, alongside Paul Deano as well. So it
was a bit of maiden Priest, you know, probably our
two biggest influences. Really the perfect show for us, and
that was the show that exposed us really to such
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a wide audience. It was our first big support show.
The stage was bigger than most venues we'd played up
until that point. And you know, we stayed in touch
and did a tour with kk's Priest in the UK
in the summer of twenty twenty four, and when it
came time to make this new record, because the first
one was self produced, we knew that, you know, we
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wanted to work with a producer and someone that had
that credibility, and of course KK co produced all those
classic Priest albums with Halford Tipton and Tom Allen, and
you know, we were like, we're in this very surreal
and fortunate scenario where we're friends with KK down and
why don't we just call him and ask him? You know,
I did, and we spent a couple of days on
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the phone going back and forth, and you know, he
was he was into the idea and into the project,
and you know, thank god, I think it turned out
really great for us.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
That's so cool, and I think it did. And the
fans are speaking. I know the album is not out yet.
When when's the other release date?
Speaker 4 (04:21):
Friday sixth?
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Were there or nearly there? But you can go watch
the video for Midnight Blitz And where I'm going to
is if you night Before I get to the comments,
it's been out for a couple of months. I think
at this point, like about eight hundred thousand views. It's
going it's gonna hit a million. It's gonna hit a
million views, and that's really not that's hard to do
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in itself. But if you look at the comments, it's
not just KK saying, it's all these fansying and where
people just really are they don't like anything new or
you know, who are these people trying to be or emulate?
How does that make you feel? Because there is a
lot of they could be You're doing fun the beginning,
but now you have this maybe added pressure of Kk's
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blessing and doing all these things, but now it's like, wow,
people are really seeing what KK seeing. So how do
you how do you both feel about that? Is this
ride is almost kind of beginning for you guys.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Yeah, it feels it feels good.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
Can you hear me better now? By the way, I'm
just yeah, it feels really good.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
I mean, we spent a long time on the album
and there's a lot of back and forth in different
versions of different songs, and so it's nice to be
able to finally get out there and to actually see
the fans enjoy it and like it.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Yeah, where did you you guys initially meet? Did you
all meet in a marsh pit or a school? How
did how did the band start like who joined first,
and uh yeah, I wanted to kind of like the beginning,
the beginning stages, the beginning mission statements of the band.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
You know, it was such a long and arduous process
to from this band.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
It really was like willing into existence.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
I think that the thing is, you know, I put
the band together and the goal was, you know, in
Great Britain we're responsible for inventing and in my opinion,
at least perfecting heavy metal with Maiden Priest, Motorhead, Saxon Venom,
you know, and then really not doing anything with the
style for such a long time. And I think because
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there's more credibility I think in Britain given to innovation
and the risk quality a lot of the time because
we invent so much stuff musically, and we were just
wanted to put together the band that we were all
hoping would come along for our generation growing up, and
you know, maybe never really did, at.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
Least from this country.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
So you know, it was a two year process of
posting everywhere online and flying and metal bars and you know,
guitar shops and everything all over the UK to get
this line up together. And you know, Rea actually joined
just a little while before we released the debut, we
had to part ways with the other guitar player that
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was there, and she lent the whole set in like
three days and played the festival with.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
Us and you know, and killed it. So that was
that was really really cool.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
And I remember saying to you know, we do a
cover of Painkiller and we play it like twice as
fast live, just for that added pressure. But yeah, it
was a long process to get this band together.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Okay, And not to out anybody, you both there are
still in your early twenties. If I could say that,
oh man, yeah, sure, you're in your early twenties. So
all right, fine, thirty thirty, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
Well you look good, Tom, Yeah, that's that's what everyone says.
So we'll leave it there.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Okay, fair fair, fair enough, because I guess with the
reason why I ask is just because the Graham guys
were recording this. The Grammys were yesterday, and you just
see what the next generation likes, you know, the music
that's popular. You know, young Blood wins the award, but
not even I don't even know if it was televised.
It was early in the day about rock and the
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Ozzie tribute was just much later in the show, and
even though it was incredible, just one song where other
artists got more. So, I mean rock still kind of
being disrespected. I guess it's always has been disrespected, But
I guess what has it been like the scene? I
guess being a younger band, if I can just put
that blanket statement on, is it harder to find a
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younger fans? Or how do you feel the metal scene?
Is it healthy? Because again, if you look at the comments,
if you really listen to the music, it's it is healthy.
So I just I just want to get to a
point where we have to stop saying, oh, rock is
dead or any of those things. So how do you
feel about the environment of rock and roll where you're
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from and when you're on tour? You know, what do
you see as far as the audience. Is it all
older geezers like me? Or is it youth or is
it everywhere? What do you see?
Speaker 1 (08:55):
I think with the type of metal we play with
heavy metal, classic Britain heavy metal, it's not that common
in in the UK. I think we're one of the
only bands that are bringing it back. To be honest,
It's way more common in Europe and We see that
a lot more in Europe with the fans in terms
of the ages, though we get a mix it tends
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to be older fans, but when we play major cities
like Manchester and London, it's actually a majority of young people,
which is nice to see that it's still being kept
alive in the younger generation. And with this second album out,
we've we've really cross paths between we're not we're not
just putting ourselves in a box of a specific genre,
and we've got a lot of influences from other different
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things and we've seen the effect that has and we've
had younger fans become interested in the music from from
listening to that and from preaching out of just being
very classic new album like the first album.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
The fans are there. I don't know how you guys feel.
I don't want to be a a hater or a
negative person, you know Again, Grammy's were last night and
it's been a topic of converce station young Blood. That's
not to tease it too much. Like I spoke about
him with Matt Sorum, who recorded on the Aerosmith EP.
I spoke about him with Peter Napoliello, former Geffen guy
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and he seems to be like the face of a
rock right now, which is interesting. And he said something
about it because he won for the Best Rock Performance
for Changes. He's like, we're coming for you. Pop music,
rock is coming back. But I think it's if you
look again, if you look at bands like yours, you
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know it's it's there. So what do you who names
some other artists because I think it's we need more
more names that that maybe that you're touring with, that
you played with, the tail Gunner has played with, that
we should see out there. Because I didn't want to
keep just mentioning whenever we talking about new music, it's
always young Blood at least for rock. No, no, no,
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That's why I wanted to talk to you guys. There's
plenty of other like straight up metal, hard rock, some
maybe some other bands that you've toured with, you've played
with that you want to give a shout out to.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Yeah, sure, I mean the first thing I would say
with young Blood and that Grammy win is the Adam
Wakeman that played keys on that performance, and it's just
you know, won a Grammy for that obviously with young
Blood plays on the single of us that's coming out tomorrow,
that's on the record, so we can't really have any
complaints about that Grammy win because now we have a
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guy that's won a Grammy on the record in the
week of release.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
So it's it's worked out really well for us. So
you know, thank you, Young Blood, I guess for that.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
And I think that the interesting thing with rock and
metal is you'll always have someone on the face of
it that is that representation to the mainstream that may
or may not necessarily represent the genre on a deeper level.
And that's okay. You know, we're not doing the same
thing that Young Blood does with you know, not as
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I guess, surface level, and it's not a dig.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
At his music.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
You need people like that, But I think heavy metal
has always been its own self contained thing and you
don't necessarily need that mainstream acknowledgment for it to have
a solid fan base for it to be successful. It's
you know, and I include women in this, but it's
something of a boys club, and I think that's the
way it kind of should be. You know, we don't
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want it to be too popular and to accepted by everyone,
but there is a lot of great bands out there.
I mean, they're not so new now, but I'm a
huge fan of Airborne, the Swedish band hardcore Superstar. You know,
we just told with hammer Fall they're a great band.
As for like really new bands. You've got Wings of
Steel from the States. I think they're from la They
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just put out the second record, really cool band.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
Enforcer Riot City.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
We're seeing bands now come out of the UK following
in the wake of our debut album that have said
to us. You know that you guys made us realize
that actually you can play this style in the modern
day and be from the UK and actually get somewhere.
So that's really positive to see. You know, there's a
great band Rattle Snakes. The singers incredible. I'm really into
their music, so it's it's definitely there cool.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
I want to take this opportunity to learn from you
guys a bit because obviously I'm in my little Guns
n' Roses bubble a little bit. I mean I do
branch out every now and then, but all the new
music I told you my son who's all playing with
blocks right now, it's like Guns of Roses and the
ABC's and itsy Bitsy Spider and Velvet revolver all in
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a mix. It's all. It's all in a mix. But
I'm I'm glad that you guys are also Guns and
Roses fans as we can, I guess talk about new music.
I don't know how much we could talk about it
with gn R here. I don't know if do you
hear any of those new Slash interviews where he says
it's gonna happen like all regionally.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
I'm yeah, I saw those interviews, the same same quotes
that you know, Richard Forts and things were saying back
in twenty ten or whatever.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
Let's say.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
But I hope you just made a lot more fans
with your comment, Tom, because that's what a lot of
my followers say. But I don't know, Slash. I'm a
I'm a hopeless romantic, I guess when it comes to
the Guns of Roses, but not everything could be appetite
for destruction area and not everything. So uh, I when
I was given the links to the bands and both
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your social media and all that stuff, and I'm peruising
and I'm looking at Ria doing all these solos and
things like that on our Instagram, I'm like, oh, appetite
for destruction behind her. Oh yeah, now definitely. Let's I
was always obviously gonna have you guys on before, but
now I'm like, yeah, definitely now, so uh not everything's
gonna be appetite. You know, I understand that, but uh
what what swear? What does gin R mean to you both?
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Because you said before we recorded it, you're both not
only fans of guns or roses. I feel uncomfortable saying
this because I'm very bad at taking compliments. That you're
both fans of me and the show's that's thank you,
that's that was you said that. That was a very interesting.
I don't think anybody listens to me other than my
wife and my son in the other room, and that's
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all I think it listens to me. It's just me
and a microphone. So yeah, talk to me about like
your guns and Roses fandom. It's cool to have you guys,
you know, be fans as well.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
I think for me, it started off with Slash obviously,
being a guitarist, I started learning guitar when I was nine,
and I discovered guns when I was eleven, and then
I bought a Les Paul from watching Slash and just
learned the whole appetite album from like the age of
like eleven to sixteen and really just like worked on
that and so Slash was a massive influence on my
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playing for a long time. And then even after discovering
like so many new bands, Guns have always remained like
my favorite one. Like it's just they're just the one
that I always always go back to and i've been
They've been my favorite band for like twelve years now,
so it's not going to change.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Okay, favorite band mine too. What a coincidence?
Speaker 4 (15:57):
No way, that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
What's the I guess your favorite Slash parts to play
and maybe most difficult for you to play.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
I think his working a strange just really cool because
he does loads of techniques that you don't hear on
the other tracks. I think I really like the riffs
that he writes in Appetite. I just think they're so
raw and dirty, like they're exactly how they should be.
And the hardest solo from Guns, I think, do you
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know what it gets slept on but sweechild of mind,
the the you know, the big lick that gets into
the main solo and he uses some of the Phrygian mode.
He even fluffs that up sometimes live and it's a
lot harder than it sounds actually when you're.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
First learning it.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
I appreciate that answer, Yeah, because it's if you want
to call it overplayed or whatever, I mean, it's still
there's a reason why it's overplayed. It's iconic, you know,
from the lyrics, the song, the melody, every thing about it.
So yeah, that's it's not spoken about enough. I mean
it is and it isn't in a way, so I
appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Yeah, that runs into I think it's the first solo,
the main one, just that fast bit.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Right on, right on, and Thomas, I know you don't
sound anything like Axel. You have more of a halfard
thing going on. But I don't know, do you do
you take anything away from uh from Axel or or
just maybe just your fandom. Have you ever seen them
live or anything like that.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
Yeah, I mean I played bass in the band, but
you know, I'm an I'm riangnosed, I am an odd
and Axel Rose fanboy. G ANDR is also my favorite band,
has been forever, and you know he is my favorite musician,
my biggest influence. I've been obsessed with G and R
(17:50):
forever and like, to me, rock and roll and heavy
metal just means like freedom and the freedom to be
yourself and to do what you want without compromise, and I,
to me is the ultimate embodiment of that rock and
roll spirit. And you know, I don't think anyone's ever
really been like that before or after to that extent,
for better or worse. Sometimes for the sake of his
(18:12):
band and you know, career, but that's really you know,
who I draw so much of my inspiration from and
always will and you know, as a bass player, of course,
stuff is huge for me.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
So you know, I like how twenty minutes into this
that I realize your bones in that I don't know why.
I guess like that the first and last name, and
I knew that was like the I don't know why
I thought you I know your tom. I don't know
why this whole time I thought you were the singer.
So let's see five hundred and fifty episodes. So fucking up,
that's me. That's that's me. So yeah, so your bones?
(18:46):
So where does bones come from? I should have called
you bones the entire time or no?
Speaker 5 (18:50):
Yeah, sure, okay, all right, No bones comes from When
I was a kid, I played in the band in
school and the guitar players just started cooling.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Mere.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
I think there's a pirate called tom Bones, and you know,
I always liked how it sounded and thought it was
a cool you know, stage name and all the rest
of it.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
So it is a cool name. I wish you put
that as your your zoom.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
I think it did it automatically. I don't think I've
got a choice, but I need to work on that.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Okay, Yeah, mindsets Brandon Weisler. When I changed it to Brando,
what I'm doing doing the radio? All right, Sorry about that,
but still great conversation. Nonetheless. So I mean that even
parlays itself more into the Grammys because Slash and Duff
were both last there last night representing really well. Can
you imagine sitting first time I've watched Grammys and like
(19:39):
the Grammys in like sixty years, and I'm only forty two,
so I don't I don't understand the man imagine sitting
behind Slash and one of those things he wears, wearing
the top hat in the audience. I just think that
that's incredibly funny, awesome. So that's that's awesome, man. I
really appreciate you both being in here and have you
played the States at all yet, don't know.
Speaker 4 (19:59):
No, We're working on Okay.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Okay, all right, Because I'm my son Horrison Rex his
real name, Baby Brownstone his radio name. I need to
clarify that because some people think I named him after
the heroine. I'm like, no, no, which is I like
the literations and I'm Brandon Brando. So Baby Brownstone. He's
already seen Dave Matthews and Paul McCartney. He has headphones.
We gotta take him to see GNR. We got to
(20:23):
take them to see Tail Gunners. We got to get
you you guys over here. Especially with Fozzy. I want
to see Chris Jericho live. Man, have you have you?
Have you met Fozzy at all? Have you maybe? Or
is this gonna be like your first kind of for
ra with them?
Speaker 4 (20:39):
Yeah, this will be the first time.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Okay, all right, wrestling fans, either of you or no.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
No, I don't think.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
I mean, I can't speak for real, but I didn't
have a clue who he was, to be honest. The
tour thing, it's just it's not as big in the UK,
you know. And I Mercella Josh. She is a like
part time wrestler and I was speaking to him about
the tour and he's like, dude, Funk, like you you
have to do this too.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Yeah, now it's some they're they're fine. I mean, I
like their music, but yeah, Chris Jericho is a huge
wrestler and a huge guns or Roses fan. Actually, you know,
he makes some merch. I don't watch a e W.
I forget what the what the name of the faction was,
but it had the appetite, skull and cross and it
was like Jericho and his his members and stuff like that.
See it all ties in together. See that's what I
(21:25):
six degrees of g N R. Bacon, That's what I
call it. Here, So Bones the bassist in Ria the guitarist,
I love it from Tail Gunner. Thank you both so
much for coming on the show. And I hope we
get to do this again. Yeah for sure, right, thank
you Bones, and thank you Rhea. I can't even make
(21:48):
an excuse for that. How did that even happen? I
think I'm talking to the lead singer the entire time.
My good thing, I didn't ask him singer questions the
entire time. At least I own it. At least I
own it. It just had a normal name on the
pop up, and I was like, oh, the singer has
a normal name. I think that that's him. And I
knew that, you know, as I mentioned to Tera looking
at her instagram because she's a g n R fan,
(22:09):
you know, that name resonated with me. But he played
it off well, he didn't storm off. God, I guess
think of all the mistakes that I've made in this podcast,
despite all the research I do, it's a to err
as human right. When I had this is years ago.
Steve Gorman, of course former Black Croson and his band
(22:33):
trigger Happy or trigger Hippie. See, I made that mistake.
I made that mistake, and I had it written in
front of me, and I just said, you know what,
let me just leave it in. I'ma leave it and
he's like, yeah, yeah, let's just leave it in. He
didn't want to, he didn't want to do it again.
He's just like, just leave it in.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
Trigger happy, trigger hippie, trigger hippie.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
Hi.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
I have trigger Hippie written down, so I'm not an idiot.
I guess misread it, so I'm partially an idiot. And
I could re edit this, but I'm not going to because.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
I let her just exactly. That's rock and roll.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Or when I said it was with Nancy Wilson and
she did a song with with I think Doug McKagan.
And in the late Taylor Hawkins called something in the ballroom.
I forget it, and I said bathroom and she started
snickering and laughing at me. Party at the angel bathroom
and hearing it. Do you really hear the influences of
(23:26):
guns or roses to food fighters and heart.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
It's it's actually ballroom. Just just to be clear, Oh,
what did I say? What did I say? I said bathroom?
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Oh my god, what's a really good title too?
Speaker 4 (23:40):
Oh man, I think it should have been bathroom. It's
getting more, you know, like, hey, rockin' man.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
That makes for a nice moment. But uh yeah, man,
this guy idiot right here you might have heard. You
might hear also my my son chirpping in the background.
Because I wanted to do something else I haven't done
in a while, because I have and done Appetite of
Discovery in a bit, how about some shotgun news news.
(24:08):
We talked about a little of the shotgun news within
the conversation with Tailgunner with the phones and Rhea. First,
I lea recap all of the Grammys I haven't watched
in years. I'm not going to go on some like
Eddie Trunk rant about rock and roll not being represented.
I mean, I say that, but I don't. You don't
need to hear more of that. It was so much
(24:29):
about seeing Slash and Duff and what the the Aussie
tribute was going to be like, and it was good.
I was ready to not like it. To be honest
with you, I'm not the biggest I'm not a Post
Malone fan. I don't even want to say biggest fan.
I'm not. It's just not for me. It seems like
a nice guy kind of the same thing with young Blood.
While I'm talking about that, these the people that in
(24:50):
Jelly Roll, I feel like they're always at every awards
thing and they all seem like very very nice people.
Just not that my kind of music. And that's that's okay, okay.
I'm glad there is a torch being uh held out there.
I guess by post and and young Is that what
the kids are saying Posty and uh Dom? Is that
(25:10):
what the cool kids are calling young Blood and post Malone.
I don't know, but he did a really good job
at war, Pigs and Slash and Duff look as rock
and roll as ever.
Speaker 4 (25:21):
You know.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
It's just it was awesome to see. I'm glad. I
was thinking it was gonna be like at the very
end of the night and I'm like, oh god, I'm
gonna have to watch the entire Grammys. It was toward
the end. Uh, they only had one song, which was
disappointing because there were other artists who had more of
a tribute than than Ozzie did. And can you say
(25:53):
roar you are a little bit away from being my
co host? Look music like, Harrison, do you like guns
and roses?
Speaker 5 (26:07):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (26:14):
Welcome?
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Can you say welcome to the podcast? An appetite for distortion?
This is the future of the podcast. It's very good.
I just showed him how to you can see his voice.
(26:44):
We got it. We got it, baby, we got it.
Instead of a technical difficulties sign, I should have a
baby Brownstone difficulties sign. He's channeling. He's being like you
know in Step Brothers they say, never lose your dinosaur.
I died that. Yeah, this is why we named him
(27:05):
Harrison Rex. That is you, That is you, handsome. The
performance was really good. I just wish there was more,
and I was kind of hoping for the ending solo
from Slash for More Pigs, but none of that. Regardless,
it was still I'm glad. I kind of watched along
with a lot of you on social media, and she
(27:26):
was able to share some pictures that I have access
access to through through Getty Images. So it was just
a very cool night too experience. But didn't I Like
a lot of you are like, oh, this is all
I watched the Grammys for and yeah, same here. But
I am a fan of say it. I like Lola Young,
you know, she It was cool to see her because
she took like a mental health break and I was like,
(27:48):
I haven't seen her in a bit, and there she was.
I'm a fan of her, her voice, and she just
seems like a very real kind of person if it's
not rock and roll. That's kind of what I look
for and gravitate towards as far as an artist, do
you seem like you're real? And that's why I like,
I've liked for a long time Lady Gaga. She seems
like a real person. And I don't know if you noticed,
(28:10):
if you blinked, you might have missed it. Josh Freeze
on drums for Lady Gaga. I tweeted, it's like, is
that Josh Freese, and I had some listeners like yeah, yeah, yeah.
He tweeted about it, alre he social mediated about it,
because I think he's not only Instagram and and in Facebook.
I don't think he uses twitter x anymore. But he
(28:31):
just showed his drum set up, so it wasn't much
of a photo. And I guess maybe that's why I didn't.
As I'm scrolling because Josh is usually in my feed,
they didn't see it. And then I'm like, that looks
like Josh Freese. That's so cool. Chinese democracy represented somehow
at the Grammys. So overall it was a good show.
(28:51):
A little bittersweet of course that Ozzie wasn't there. But
the big, big, big shotgun news, although it depends on
who you ask, if you ask bones not that to
give a news story. Slash went on a bit of
a oppress or tour to promote the upcoming tour for
Guns and Roses, and it was more than just one interview.
(29:14):
It was like a slew hand of them, or so
I should say this. I won't go to fourth Wall
with it, but the company that I work for, Premiere Radio,
put on the tour for him. So all the interviews
that he did with Ultimate Classic Rock and Loudwire, whether
it was print or on the radio, went through my company,
(29:35):
and it was just these are all high level. I'm
just I'm not that if I'm ever going to get
a Slash interview, I guess this was this was not
the time to happen. But regardless, I'm very happy for
his answer because it wasn't like a slip of the tongue.
He was really strategic with all his responses. How it
was a rehash, that's what he called it, and I
(29:55):
always thought that was kind of like a disservice to
this song when fans would call it. But if Slash
call nothing in Atlas the last of the rehash songs,
and that's what we're gonna call it, the old that
whatever Axel brought to them, and literally it sort of
sounds like from Slash all they just guitars and new
drums on top of it. Take them all the ones out,
(30:17):
put the new ones in, and those are the new
six songs that we got. So where are Monsters? Where
are a lot of Oklahoma? There are a lot of
other songs times seven? Are they more song titles out there?
Are they really gone for good? Like? Are we never
going to see them other than in leak form? I
(30:38):
don't know. But the biggest news is Slash again reconfirming
he's like and he said, well, you know what, let's
play it. I want I want poorly paraphrase. So this
is from from Sylvia and she's on COMPU station ninety
two three, I believe comp in Las Vegas.
Speaker 6 (30:57):
So here's Here's so Atlas uh and Nothing. The two
singles that are released very different from one another. But
before we go into you know, diving into that, does
releasing music song by song? Is that kind of like
where we're at now? Or is the goal still releasing
new music or like an album?
Speaker 7 (31:17):
I should say yeah, yeah, I think in this instance
it's what we're doing because we only re recorded those songs,
you know, like a couple songs here, a couple of
songs there.
Speaker 4 (31:28):
These were the last two.
Speaker 8 (31:29):
That are left to do, and we we actually did them,
not even back to back. Nothing was one and Atlas
was at a different time, but they hadn't been released yet, right,
so LEAs seeing them now and then there's really no
more of that.
Speaker 4 (31:45):
Sort of old rehash stuff to release.
Speaker 8 (31:49):
But you know, I think what we're going to we're
going to take all those all those songs and put
them on something and release that as a as a package.
And that's the next record that we're going to do
is going to be all new, original stuff, and that'll
be an actual.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
Album, all new material. I mean, that's that's what has
been bands have been clamoring for since well, I guess
since the nineteen ninety one nineteen ninety two with the Illusions.
I guess if you don't want to count the spaghetti
incident and Chinese democracy, they want all regional material with
Slash and Axle and Duff Stephen and uh it is isy.
(32:25):
I know you're thinking it.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
I hear you.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Stop thinking it. It's not it's like fetch, It's like
mean girls, it's not gonna happen. I'm sorry. I'll keep
hope alive for you know, a you know, like an
appearance or something like that, or hope among hopes like
oh my god, like what if they actually wrote a
song with them, not counting joining rejoining the band. These
(32:48):
are like the crazy hopes that I have but not rejoining.
That's just a ship sailed decades ago. So I'm I'm
excited for what's to come with Guns and Roses. Obviously
on tour this year, I'm taking this guy, Harrison, who
wants to play legos right now? Do you want to
bring legos to Guns and Roses? I know I have
(33:10):
guns of roses legos up there if you're looking on
social media. Yeah, he's so cute.
Speaker 4 (33:17):
I love him.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
I don't care if any of you have a problem.
It's all. It's usually all positive. But again, alternative ones.
Stick with me. That people complaining I'm being a father.
I love you. I just fed him. You don't want
to eat a nice tuna fish and orange and Crunchmaster crackers.
I just gave you. You don't want to have any
of that that delicious meal while your mother is at work.
(33:40):
This is the multitasking that I do. I have my
real jobs, I have the podcast, and I have father.
But you know why I keep doing this. I love
this band, I love talking about it with you and
tending year. Adversary of this podcast is in May. We're
(34:01):
not slowing down, all right? That does it? With this episode,
this awkward episode of appetite for distortion. When will you
see the next one? In the words of Axl Rose
concerning Chinese democracy, I don't know as soon as the word,
but you'll see it.
Speaker 4 (34:21):
Thanks to the lame ass security. I'm going home.
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