April 20, 2026 • 48 mins
Guns N' Roses, Vicky Hamilton, and Jennifer Perry once all lived in the same apartment. In this episode, we remember the life of Jennifer, an iconic rock promoter and agent. Vicky, Guns' first manager, recently curated the "Rock for Jennifer" concert, involving a mini GN'R reunion. We reflect on the event and impact Jennifer had on so many, especially Slash.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We both knew that they were going to be huge
to the degree that they are now. I don't think
either one of us could have predicted that.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Welcome to the podcast Appetite for Distortion, Episode number five
hundred and sixty. My name is Brando. Welcome back to
the podcast, Miss Vicky Hamilton.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
How are you, hey, Brando? I'm good. How are you?
Speaker 3 (00:23):
I'm doing well.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Before we get going, I know, I want to talk
about we talk about some fun stuff, things like that.
I got to say just I'm sorry for the loss
of your friend. That's why we're here. Jennifer Perry. I'm
just a really sorry.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
I like, I still like I'm going to state of
shock over it. You know, I had lunch with Peter
Margolis yesterday and she used to be his agent, and
last year she went to the lunch with us, and
you know, it's just weird that she's not there after
forty plus years, you know.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
So yeah, to kind of gets jump right into because
we've obviously spoken to you about numerous things. Your book
Appetite for Dysfunction, you a lot of guns and roses
stuff the early days. But here I want to, you know,
let people know we're focusing on you know one singular
person who I need to learn about. You know, I
need to know more about because we're Facebook friends and
(01:17):
I saw you know your post how you were friends
for almost fifty years and you mentioned four decades. And
at this point as well, we're recording this a let
me just say happy belated birthday to you.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
That's the first thing I should have said, forgive me
before we got into them.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
That's a big number. But we won't talk about.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
We don't need to talk about that. No, no, no,
that's I've learned not to ask, well, I will have anything.
I'll just say April birthdays or great because my wife,
my sister in law, my son, what are my brothers?
So you're in good company of April birthdays, so regardless
of age. So a few weeks back, as we're recording this,
(01:57):
there was an event rock for Jennifer at the Troubadour and.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
The power of her.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
She was an agent, right and she worked with a
lot of different things. I want to learn about her,
but she got her as a person, got Slash and
Stephen together and Duff together with Gilby and there was
a great performance that it went viral all over.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
It he wore.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Yeah, it really went all around the world or was great?
I mean to run Jennifer's resume, I guess is where
we should probably start. Yeah, please, When I moved to
LA I think I met her in like eighty three
or something. She was booking the Troubadour then, and at
that point in time, I was like working with Striper
(02:45):
and the hind Brothers were trying to figure out how
to make a spiritual band like mainstream, you know. So
you know, we took the Yellow and Black Attack to
the Troubadour, which is where I met Jennifer. She booked
the Troubadour for several years, and you know, we became
really fast friends, and you know, uh, the two of
(03:09):
us sort of ran the Hollywood for a while. She
had a company called Half Wet Productions with a guy
named Robert Berman, who did Oh gosh Odin and Antics,
which was Greg Darling's band back before Darling, Cruel and
(03:32):
Steel On Steel, Panther, Stainless Steel, which was Peter Margolos's band,
and Keel. A lot of different bands she worked with.
But then after a while she uh went to work
(03:56):
at Avalon Attractions. But you know, before that and as
a manager. She like really helped me book a lot
of bands into the Troubadour and around you know, Hollywood.
She was also instrumental in the country Club and a
lot of different bookings around town. But she helped me
a lot with Poison and Guns and Roses and Darling Cruel,
(04:21):
you know, Faster Pussycat. Then it was about that time
that when I moved into the Clark Street apartment, her
and Robert broke up and she moved into the apartment
with me, like I'd only been there a few days,
and then she moved in. You know, it's like here's
me going, yeah, I'm finally going to have my first
(04:43):
apartment by myself. And Jennifer moved in, and then a
few weeks later, Axel moved in on the couch when
the police were coming around their rehearsal hall. And then
of course the whole band moved in. So it was me,
Jennifer and the Guns and Roses folks all in this
one bedroom apartment on Clark Street, which is like, you know,
(05:03):
feet away from the the whiskey of Go Go, and
you know, that's where Slash and Steven basically started their
relationship with Jennifer and you know, she she just she
was always there for me, you know, even to the end.
(05:24):
You know, I had Thanksgiving at her house in November.
But see, so she went from there to uh Tapestry
Artists and work with Tim tim Heiney and I think
that's where she worked with Keel and some of the
other bands. And then she went from there to Avalon
(05:44):
Attractions where she was a concert promoter and she did
a lot major rock shows. And she was a big
advocate for Leatherwolf and Odin who played rock for Jennifer
and also Warrant. She like really helped launch their career. Unfortunately,
(06:06):
I was not able to get Warrant to do rock
for Jennifer because they had something else going on. But
and then she went to work for Sharon Osbourne and
helped develop Ozfest and you know booked a lot of
those bands. I mean when she turned fifty, Ozzy Osbourne
bought her like a reclining chair for her living room,
(06:30):
like you know, welcome to old age. Basically say okay, yeah,
so that's kind of her history.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Uh what was there like her personality like to work
with other personalities like Axel, to like Sharon Osbourne.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
What kind of person was she? Serious?
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Why we called it like rock for Jennifer loud and legendary.
She was loud and very legendary the way that she
did things. I mean, she had this very infectious laugh,
and you know, she loved the sun. She was like
always tanning and uh, you know, I don't know. She
(07:17):
was just like a really fun person to be around,
you know, to have.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
That effect all those years later.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
And something that really struck me watching the videos of
the performance when when Slash was up there, he goes,
I'm paraphrasing a bit, He's like, Jennifer would have really loved.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
This, you know, why didn't you?
Speaker 2 (07:35):
She probably would have said like, why didn't you fuckers
do this when I was alive?
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Right?
Speaker 3 (07:40):
And that kind of really struck me, you know.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
And for them because they're you know, Slash and Duffer,
obviously they're busy. They could they even have to do
that so or to be that special to a lot
of people.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Yeah, they had actually a Guns and Roses rehearsal before
Rolford Jennifer, and it's like five minutes until when Slash
is going on like texting him go where are you at?
And he's like I'm almost there. I'm like, okay, cool.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Oh wow, yeah yeah, because I mean that's kind of
like the headliner, right, I mean, yeah, how did that
the process go to put it together? Because it's a
lot because you're lost her friend and you're putting this together.
I got to imagine it behalf of it. It's really
difficult emotionally and the therapeutic.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
I actually got the word from Slash that she had passed,
you know, and I was like, are you sure you know?
She was like she was in the hospital. She died
of lung cancer. I don't know if that's been said anywhere.
And it was very very fast, Like I had Thanksgiving
at her house and that was around the time period
(08:47):
that she had found out that she thought she had cancer.
I mean, and she died February twelve. So that tells
you kind of the sphere of how quick it really was,
you know. And he called me and he goes, I'm really sorry,
and uh and uh, you know, we started like talking
about it, and I said we should do something at
(09:11):
the Troubadour for her, like, you know, because she used
to book it and stuff. And he's like, that's a
great idea. And then they had a shiva at her
house and we started planning it, and you know, the
Troubadour has booked like three hundred and sixty days a
year pretty much. So it's like they offered us like
(09:32):
a Monday that was like two weeks away, and then
what was the date that it ended up being the
twenty third or something I think, but yeah, so it's
like we took the first gig and I was just like,
there's no way we're going to be able to get
this together. And you know, we were just kind of
(09:52):
thinking that we would have people come to the Troubadour
and then I'm like, well we should like you know,
raise money for music cares or something, and uh, He's
like that's a great idea. I go, we should take
the later date. So then we took the later date
and uh, you know started planning it and he said,
he's like, well, who are we going to get Leatherwolf
(10:13):
and Odin. I was like, yeah, the you know, oh
there like her favorite bands, you know, so uh, I
got Leatherwolf and Odin and then we started putting together
the Jennifer All Stars, which you know, we didn't know
what we were going to call that, but that's what
we ended up settling on that. Actually Christine from the
(10:34):
Troubadour came up with that it works. Yeah, so you know,
we started putting that together and uh, you know a
lot of people came to the table, and you know,
unfortunately several of them were out of town or they
couldn't do it or whatever. But Jennifer had like, uh,
(10:58):
you know, influence on a lot of people's lives.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
So anyone that you're able to mention that just it
could didn't work out just because of scheduling.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
That would have been cool to see.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Oh, Keil really wanted to do it. Ron Keel and
Mark Ferrari and Mark's mom was six in Florida, and
Ron Keel had some I don't know, he's doing like
a country like thing now, and I think he had
something that he had to take care of. You know,
I tried to get warrant. You know, I think they
had things going on as well. I mean, obviously it's
(11:29):
not Janie Lane, but they you know, a new warrant
that's going out there. And Jerry Dixon is also Randy
O from Odin's cousin, so he reached out to him
and that's how we found out that they were Busy
and h and Julian Raymond from Bang Bang, like Jennifer
loved Bang Bang. We're trying to put that together, and
(11:52):
that didn't quite come together. And then I called Jonathan Daniels,
you know, who owns Crush Manager and was in Candy
back in the day with Gilby and whatever. And you know,
Jennifer had like a huge crush on Jonathan back in
the day. And I was like, you have to do it,
you know, and He's like, okay, I'll do it, you know.
(12:15):
So then I had Slash and Jonathan, and you know,
we started like calling others and you know, it started
being Candy and then sort of guns and Roses. I mean,
you know, I was washing dishes and I like was
like talking to Jennifer in my head, like, you know, okay,
(12:37):
who do you want to play this? Right? And then
I got in my car and it was like Sweet
Child of Mind was on, followed by Inner sam Man,
you know, and she had actually done a concert with
Metallica that she like promoted all on her own, you know,
so you know, Slash to call Metallica and you know,
(12:58):
nothing ever really came of that, but not really sure
what they had said. You know, guns and roses, so
went out of two ain't bad?
Speaker 2 (13:05):
And so I mean, yeah, you kind of that. That's
the funny thing and the interesting thing, well, with with Slash,
chances are it's a fifty chance wherever he goes Duff
is going to be there. Their their buddy, right.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
I'm assuming he just.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Asked, well, they happened to be into town because you know,
they had guns and roses rehearsals, so you know, they
were all here and Steven, you know, up until the
very last minute, we didn't know if he was going
to be able to do it or not, you know,
so it was great that he didn't end up being
able to do it. You know.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
So I guess a couple questions there, and only if
you can answer them. I tell this to all my guests.
If you don't want to say anything, just pretend you
didn't hear me, or I cut out or something.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
I was like, oh, what uh with did you try
to for for Axel?
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Because you mentioned, you know, he lived with you for
a bit. I know you haven't spoken to him in
many years, but if they were all in town, was
it like maybe here's the opportunity to.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
Yeah, I did think that, and I asked Slash to
invite him, and he said, he goes, I'll ask, but
you know, I wouldn't count on it. And I was like,
you know, I haven't counted on Axel since nineteen nineties.
I don't know he I don't know what he said
to Slash or anything like that, you know, Okay, I
(14:20):
mean I would like to put that behind me and him,
you know, but not to be yet. You know, I
still don't hear the fat Lady singing on that one,
you know.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
With Steven, you know, it's so wonderful to see him
and then that smile. Of course, everything that he's been through,
he has his own book. Of course, when you said
he we weren't sure he was going to be there.
Was that just a scheduling thing or perhaps dare I
ask a health thing? Like he just wasn't up to performing.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
It was kind of a personal thing. So I don't
really want to go into.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
That, but we'll leave it there. Then we'll leave it there.
Let me.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
I wanted to do it out of the gate, so
you know, it was great that he was able to,
but you know, he uh could only really do one song.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
You know, Okay, I guess because I do ask that
and you mentioned the one song, and I guess it's
how the internet is now. You can't just enjoy something.
You have to like take a good thing and kind
of pick it apart. So you have this reunion ish
of g and are you of Slash and Duff, who
of course were performing together now with gen r. But
you have Gilby and you have Stephen. And I'll mention
(15:33):
something else after it, but the that that came to
my mind. But the first thing is with Stephen. I
see a lot of comments about how the tempo is slow,
and to someone who does, I don't. I don't notice
these things.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
I don't know. I didn't think. So I like, yeah,
there's like this ledge of the Troubadour and then there's
like the stairs down on the stage and you know,
they started playing. I went down the stairs and I
kind of filmed it from the back so you can
like see the whole crowd and everything. I mean, the
crowd was insane when they like went on, you know,
(16:08):
it was you know, many would say that was the
highlight moment when Steven came out, and like, you know,
did that moment you.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Know with Hamy down on vocals. Yeah, he did a great,
great job. So that's why I bring that up because
I we were like, oh, how come on just one
song because Fred Corey Cordrey was there for Corey.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Yeah, he played most of it, you know.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Yeah, So I think that was just like was his
back harder because he's obviously still touring. But I guess
he was just more like was he you know, all right,
I guess, but no personal issues.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Was just leave it at uh, leave it at that.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
And the other thing I found funny, I just kind
of jump off what Slash said, like I don't think
that's you know, don't expect a response as far as
Axel the other comments he would see.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
It's almost like.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Not the Axel could say Slash, don't do this or stuff,
don't do this, especially considering the cause, but the amount
of calls for like why isn't Stephen back of GNR,
you know, coming from it? So I'm just wondering, like
the R they.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Even know what that's about. You know. That's like, you know,
it's like I haven't spoken to Axel since nineteen ninety one,
so I have no clue what's running through his head.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Well as far as like Slash and Duffer concerned. I'm curious.
They're both on social media and it's kind of like,
what because it's it was recently the anniversary of the
Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, and when axel today
you want to do that, it's kind of like, Okay,
I do this once, then you're going to be clamoring
for the reunion when I'm out with this other band
(17:39):
for this other other version.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
So I didn't know if.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
That was going to be an issue. Hey, Slash and
Duff are now performing with Gilby and Steven. People are
going to be clamoring for that as opposed to Richard
and Isaac. So I didn't know if there was any
sort of like, I don't know, hesitancy on the part
of h Slash or Duff just to do it for
stupid pr and click eight reasons or I'm glad that
(18:02):
didn't come about because that was kind of a conversation
within the fan base.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
I'm glad you are all tuned out. Maybe they're all tuned.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Out with all of what the fans are saying, or
some fans are saying, I don't know, I.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Don't I don't pay attention to it. So I don't
really know anything that was being said, but.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
You know, that's an answer.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Honestly, that's an answer in itself that shows you that
we fans, we think about more things more than the
actual artists do.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
I think.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
I mean, I think everybody's kind of moved on in
their lives and they have, you know, their own things
that they're doing and stuff. I mean, I had a
great time working with Slash. Again, it'd been you know
whatever over thirty years, so this is the first time
with you.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
You haven't so you haven't worked with Slash since G
and R like officially in any other events situation.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Well, you know, we've remained friends, but he had you know,
I don't know how many managers in between, like maybe
three or something. So you know, it was fun on
a daily basis to like work with him and like
give him shit. Like you know, for everybody else, it's
(19:07):
like he, uh, he's like this major iconic rock star.
For me, he's just like my kid that I you know,
want to give shit, you know. And he said to me,
what's her name? I think Greta that works for him.
What's her name? Anyway, he said, put her on the
(19:27):
list and whatever he goes. She works really hard. I
was like, yeah, she has to put up with you
every day, smiley face. You know, it's like he's a
I just you know, I like the banter that we have,
you know.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
So it was like that, Yeah, so that that goes
into you know, sometimes if you don't see this in
this case, it is like you don't see it old
friend for a while. I mean, I know you guys
are in contacting your friends, but just to spend that time,
and sometimes it's like, whoa, I don't even recognize this
person anymore. Or sometimes it's like we no passage of
(20:05):
times seem to have happened.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Yeah, that's kind of how it is with him. You know.
It's like I don't know. I mean, Slash is just
really special. I mean, what am I gonna say? I mean,
I just love his personality, and you know, I knew
him before he was anyone. So I think he appreciates
that I loved him then and I still love him now.
(20:30):
You know.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
I think that is important for sure, because I'm sure
like a lot of people that're surrounded by yes men
and we're afraid to say something because they'll lose.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Their each time I see them, you know, it's you know,
it's like a day hasn't passed, you know, when.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Did you kind of step back and like when they're
rehearsing or maybe they're chatting Steven and Slash and Gilby
or all of them, do you kind of just take
a step back and be and watch should be like,
oh this is cool or that again, it was just
like you're watching your kids play, you know, like kind
of interrupting.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Yeah, I mean that sound check. I didn't go to
the rehearsal. I wanted them to all, like, you know,
just put together what they were going to put together.
There was one all star rehearsal and they put that
all together. And I also managed Tamy and Faster Pussycats.
So for me to like see Tamy running guns of roses,
(21:27):
you know, he said to me that he was like
really nervous and that he you know, it was kind
of bucket list for him and whatever, and you know,
it was really great to see that, you know that.
I mean, out of all the rock stars I've ever
worked with, Tamy is like one of the guys that
has always been like straight up with me and like
(21:50):
super cool. So to see see him in that position
after the tough year that he's had that it was great.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
You know.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
I was so happy him and he did a great job.
He totally pulled it off, you know, but I did.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
I kept seeing comments again, the comments that some people
pay attention to you like me, and some others are
better off not paying attention to But like I would
see this band on tour, they should go out. You know,
people for whatever reason unfamiliar with Tamy. I'm like outside
our bubble being like, oh, he's doing a great job.
So and that's cool to hear that. I like hearing
when someone as establishes him gets nervous. That makes me
(22:25):
feel better because I still get I get yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
I mean I found that kind of interesting. It's like, really,
you know, we're nervous as well, you know, and it's
like they you know, they were great. I mean, you know,
I was never like the biggest fan of Leather with
some music, but as I was watching them and Odin,
I was like, Okay, I really get what she saw here.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
You know, I'm sorry to the last part again. Sometimes
they were great.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
You know.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Everybody that played was like right, It's like I have
a new client named Kyle Rising, and I had him
do an acoustic version of Knocking on Heaven's Door with
Jennifer's nephew David Perry and Pedal Steel and that was great.
And then you know, Ricky Rackman was great. It was
(23:21):
just all really really great.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
You know, it seemed like a special event. And for
someone obviously who wasn't there, who's now starting to learn
about Jennifer, it was just really he made us feel
all involved. The way you promoted it, the way Tamy
did on on Instagram, and the videos that came out
and the photos that came out after it really seemed
like a special event.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
So is there our.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Well friend Lee Lee Williams did the artwork for it.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
So Lee Williams, of course, who made those incredible artists.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
She co hosted.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
For those who are familiar with the podcast, she costed
the episode with Jimmy Webb.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Then, yeah, everything to get that happening, and then Damien
Sage made that backdrop. I mean, everybody like really came together.
And then Kim Bailey, who I'm working an animated project with,
did the ads that were animated, and you know, nobody
(24:19):
got paid. It was just like a real coming together
of community, you know, and.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
That's that says a lot about you what you put together,
and that says a lot about her or she's able
to do and bring together, you know, even when she's
not here physically, you know that she's able to get
gather these people to put.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
On a great show. I know.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
There's a lot of great videos out there from fans,
including yourself. I share the video you shot side stage,
anything pro shot that he might come out or no.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Several people like took photos and we're taking videos and stuff,
but I really don't know, didn't like hire anyone to
do that because it seemed a little sack religious to me,
you know, because it was it was a celebration of
live memorial concerts. So I didn't want to like use
(25:16):
it in that way. Okay, Like there were a bunch
of kids at the back door during soundcheck that had
things that they wanted Slash to sign and all that stuff,
and I had, like, you know, when they opened up
the door to leave after soundcheck, it was like Slash
(25:36):
was like really sweet to them. He goes, He's like,
thank you for your interest to do that, but I'm
not here for that today, you know, So I didn't
let people come in with posters or any of that.
You know, it wasn't about that. It was about Jennifer,
you know.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
So yeah, no, absolutely, there's a time and place of that.
I just I really cringe a lot of times these
autograph seekers, you know. I mean there's a time I
understand waiting after a concert or before a concert, but
I mean, especially at an event like this, it's just
I don't know, get a they were young, so maybe
they need to they'll know better.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
I've been awkward asking for photos at times, you know,
with celebrities, so I won't pretend to be innocent there.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
So well, they're fans, I mean, you know, I can't
take that away from them. You know, we wouldn't have
careers if there weren't fans, and you know, I think
everybody was certainly appreciative of that fact, you know, but
that wasn't what this was about, you know. Sure, sure,
honoring a woman that like helped build a lot of careers.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
You know, I know this is kind of a cliche
question that you've asked before about women in rock, and
you've detailed the struggle that you had to deal with,
especially when they got signed to geffriend that they didn't
want a woman. Did what challenges to Jennifer face in
that situation? Is that why you kind of banded together two?
(27:02):
Because am I oversimplifying it? Is that that you were
two women in the I mean, you know, I.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
Think we just clicked. You know, we like had like
similar personalities and you know, back in the day we
loved to smoke pot and shit. You know, we were
just like really close and personalities. You know, it's like,
(27:29):
you know, she was one of my best friends ever.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
You know, what was her reaction because you shared the
story that she was living with you during the whole
bidding war with defen Right?
Speaker 3 (27:41):
So what was her reaction.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
When this band that was once living with her got
signed to this major this major label and eventually became
one of the biggest bands of all time?
Speaker 3 (27:52):
Like, what was her thought? Did she always know that?
Do you ever talk about that?
Speaker 1 (27:57):
Well, we both knew that they were going to be huge,
I mean to the degree that they are now. I
don't think either one of us could have predicted that.
I Mean, I look at those videos from Brazil and
I'm just like, what the hell, that's just like insane
(28:18):
and I said to Slash, you know, you know, you
are so famous and you handle it with so much
integrity and grace. It's just like beyond beyond for me.
You know, It's like, I don't know how he does that,
because when people start grabbing at me, I'm not as
(28:39):
nice as Slash. You know, Slash is consistently nice and
everyone everybody wants a piece of him, and you know,
and you know, I'm an outsider at this point, but
you know, it's like people, you know, will come to
me and say, well, you give this to Slash, and
it's like, you know, forty years later, I got a
kid that like used to sit up inside my apartment,
(29:01):
you know, when I lived in Hollywood, thinking that he
was going to see Slash. I was like, Slash, doesn't come, Harry,
you know, you're going to be waiting a long time.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
That's braf.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
Time is better spent somewhere else.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Okay, the guy had faith. I guess I can give
him some props for that. But yeah, no, that is
difficult to me. Hear that a lot today. I mean,
I know more about this story than I really care
to admit, but that the whole shepe Chappolle Chapelle Roan.
I didn't know how to say her name. Yeah, you know,
it turned out that it wasn't her that turned away
this little girl. I don't know, but you see, everyone's famous.
(29:38):
It seems like everyone's famous nowadays or air quote famous
with tiktoks and how they treat people, and so it's
just wonderful to hear because bad stories get out. This
is consistent. I'm just how Slash, how nice Slashes, how
Duff as Steven, I'll Tamey. Everyone that you had there
just seems to be.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
Everybody was really nice. I mean I didn't even get
to see Duff. It's like, came in so late that
you know, I didn't even get to say hi to him.
I mean it was he was out the door.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
But okay, I was wondering why because there's pictures of
you with Steven and his wife and then with with
you and Slash and Tamy and Ricky. So I was like,
where's Tough and all this.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
I'm like, okay, yeah, I mean, you know, they had
been a rehearsal and then they came and did that.
He probably just wanted to go home, you know, I mean, you.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Know, busy like you said, they're doing a bunch of
shows in Brazil and to look out the sea of
people and just how insanely famous that the country.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
Crazy and you know, it's like there's the bouncing ball
with every word. You know, it's like insane it is.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
It's it's if I feel like it's a like, where
are the first you've gone to see the band? I
know you don't really, It's not like it's like you're
a fan that you know travel, but like if you've
seen them in a far because I want to go
see them in South America or Brazil. That's a kind
of like a bucket list thing for me, because American
crowds just seemed to like we just sit there.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
I've never seen them outside the country, honestly, you know,
I saw him at Madison Square Garden. I haven't seen
them in years, so you know, okay, I mean it's
you know, I know a lot of people go all
the time and see them or whatever, but you know,
I kind of want to remember the little band that
(31:24):
played you know, music Machine and you know the Troubadour
and you know the wild and crazy. You know, I mean,
they are still a great band and like a lot
of bands I worked with, I would never go see
I mean, I would go see Guns of Roses, I guess,
but you know, I just I've moved on in my career,
(31:45):
you know, I don't I don't idolize that part of
my history, you know what I'm saying. It's like I
have a new kid, you know, Kyle, who's like doing
great and labels are coming after him and he's you know,
he's an actor too, and he's up for a couple
of movies and whatever. You know, this is where I
am in my head, you know. And it's like working
(32:08):
on getting the TV series made and I'm doing these
animated projects. You know. It's like that's what I concentrate on.
But I am appreciative of the success that all these
bands have had. And I do go see Faster Pussycat
quite often. It's like, I really think that Faster Pussycat
is a better band now than they were in the eighties.
(32:29):
It's crazy, you know. It's like that kid Sam Bam is,
you know, he's the new slash. He's amazing now. He's
going out with Godsmack. So I don't know what that
means to him and Faster pussy Cat, But he's incredible.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
You know, I got to get Temy back he was
on the podcast once. I got to get him back
on because he was so cool to talk to. And
before we get into what you're talking about all to
expand upon and where we could find the new bands
and new artists you're talking about. The reason I guess
ask is whenever I speak to Peter and Pollyellow, because
he's kind enough that we talk off air. Sometimes he
checks in on me that he'll go.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
See he was like one of my favorite people that
worked at Geffen.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
You know, that's that's cool.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
That makes me because he's so kind to me and
he doesn't need to he just checks in on me.
He's not like for I an interview, he's nothing.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
Now he's like a nice person.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
Yeah, so he'll he'll be like, oh I text, I'll
text Slash and when he's there over by his neck
of the woods, Estonia, he'll go to the show and
obviously he is like you very fond of the g
n R from back then, but he'll he'll still see
them every now and then, uh, when they come around.
So that's what that's what made me think about. You know,
if it ever happened with you and how far he
(33:41):
may have traveled. But that's fine, so let's yeah, let's
pivot too, because there was an artist recently it was
in New York that you had.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
Was that who you're just talking about? You tagged me
in it on Instagram?
Speaker 1 (33:52):
Oh yeah, mother, wend They yeah, they, well, well, Kyle
was just in New York too. Is that what you're
like talking? I don't know what you're referring to.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
You tag me in something on Instagram. This is a
few weeks ago.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
Played uh silver Lining Lounge for Scott Lips.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
Yeah, oh for Scott Lips. Yeah, he's uh yeah, he's
big timing. I'm not I'm too small for that guy.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
Uh yeah, Ryan, how do you say perds?
Speaker 1 (34:23):
What?
Speaker 3 (34:24):
How do you say his last name? Ryan Pirds?
Speaker 1 (34:26):
No, No, Kyle Rising.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
Oh, Kyle Rising. I'm looking at then I'm looking at
another one. You sent me The Return of Rock and
Grunge featuring performances by Ryan Pirds. Oh I see it now,
he's third on the list.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
Kyle Rising. All right, the Dark Spark Vicky do you
tag me so?
Speaker 1 (34:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (34:42):
Yeah, not completely. He's a handsome, handsome man.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
Oh, he's as cute as they come. The other day,
we were out at lunch and we're doing a photograph
with him and his acting late agent. He's like, how
do I look? I go, oh, you're just disgusting you.
I go, I think you roll out of bed looking. Yeah,
he's super cute.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
So where do we go to find Kyle and all
the artists.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
Well, he's you know, he's got some stuff on Spotify
and Apple and all that. He's in the studio right
now with Rick Parker, who you know is one of
my favorite producers to work with, and I have something
new soon. It's like trying just just like get him
to hone in his signature sound. And I haven't like
really been shopping him yet for a label or anything,
(35:32):
but the labels are already coming around and you know,
the acting parts and things, which is great. It's a
little early, but great. You know, I'm glad that people
see what I see, you know.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
And you'll find him and other artists on Dicky Hamilton
dot com. They can check out.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Yeah, I haven't put anything. I mean, I've only been
managing Kyle for a month. It's like, do I even
have put anything up yet?
Speaker 3 (36:02):
Little new So it's.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Like out of the Gate and you know, you know,
playing with Slash and whatever. You know, it's like it
brought him to the forefront.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
So you know, it's, uh, he's the ground running sort
of ground.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
Running, yes, but you know he's been doing this a while.
I mean, he already has like one hundred and sixty
six thousand followers on Instagram. He's uh, you know, he
had another band that did pretty well, and then he
had like a Doors tribute band, and now you know,
he's finding his real self. And Kyle Rising is really
his name. It's not like a stage name or anything.
(36:40):
But oh really, yeah, I know I thought for sure
it was too because Mojo Rising and all that.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
And he's like, well that's what I thought.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
I'm Michael, It's really my name, you know.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
Nice, nice, Okay, cool, And I thought I had a
lot of followers with twenty one point three.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
I forgot to mention too that Gilby's daughter Frank like
saying as well, and she was fantastic as well, you know,
because I'm my boy. And I said to Slash Man,
this is a lot of male energy. We got to
get some girl on there, and we tried to get
Leada forward, but she was you know, an Arizona or something.
So then you know, the opportunity to have Frankie turned up, so.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
And I want to get her on the podcast too.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
Yeah, what's your your relationship with Gilby? Obviously it's it's uh,
it's good.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
You know. I never really worked with Gilby. It's like
my first time, and you know, it was all good,
you know, and he's very organized. When the rehearsal came together,
he like charted it all out. I was like really
grateful for that because you know, I just wanted the
band people to put together what they wanted to put out.
But because he was in Candy and he was in
(37:51):
Guns and Roses, he was kind of the bridge between
the two different camps. So he was able to put
it together, you.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
Know, and the musicians put together this that list. You
didn't have like a request. Okay, guys, can you play
it too easy? Well?
Speaker 1 (38:05):
I told Jonathan that he had to do whatever happened
to fun because that was like a song that Jennifer loved,
you know. So yeah, I think Tamy picked the iggy
pop song and the other punk. There was like three
punk songs they did, and I think that came from
Tamy because Slash text me and said Tamy wants to
(38:25):
do these songs, and I was like, cool, you know,
let's do it.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
You know, okay, cool, cool. I appreciate you sharing all
about this event. I wish uh you know, it's I
feel good like reliving it. Like you're right, that's something
that should not be commercialized.
Speaker 1 (38:39):
You know.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
It's cool that people fans were there. They able to
film and take pictures. There's some really quality photos from
from Jack Blue, gene R's first photographer as your gene
R's first manager, so there's great stuff out there.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
I don't know if he was the first photographer, like
Robert John was the photographer that I worked with the most,
and he, like you know, couldn't make it. He's had
health issues and stuff. But I missed him there. It
felt like I should have seen his face in the crowd.
And then the next days, I mean, because I wish
I would have been there. I was like, yeah, I
wish you would have been there too.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
You know he's still yeah, he's recovering. He had like
a heart deck or a stroke like stroke.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
He did do a shoot for me, like not about
long ago, like a year ago. I mean he's recovering,
but you know it's slow.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
Going, you know, Okay, all right, Well, and I Jacklue
took all those photos with with Mark Canter.
Speaker 1 (39:34):
He did well. He did like a lot of the
live photos always, you know. And I love Jacalute as well,
So I don't mean to pooh pooh Jackaloue at all.
You know, I love him.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
But either way, there's a lot of like old school
GNR stuff that was in jacket into that performance, which
was super cool.
Speaker 3 (39:50):
But speaking of which, of course.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
Several photographers that you know did early guns and rows
of stuff. See the other guy's name, uh God to
call me, and I like, I can't think of his
name right now, but yeah, there were a few, you know.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
One that comes to mind just because I interviewed him
was Kevin Estrada. I don't know, he did some Perkins
Palace Perkins Palace show, so I don't know if that
was the name, but I just had to say that
because that was just a name that came to my mind.
But I get speaking of all this and all this
this history, though you mentioned it before, will kind of
wrap up on this note. The television show we spoke
about that last time, you know, what progress have you gotten?
Speaker 3 (40:31):
This is for now.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
The TV show is the slowest moving thing I've ever
done in my life. I mean, you know, it's been
a real learning curve for me. But the pilot is written,
it's fictionalized. They're putting together a package and like possible
other episodes to go with the pilot, and you know,
(40:54):
the agency's going to take it out to sell it.
Now it's like going to market, you know. So it's
pretty much all I can really say about it. It's
like I'm not really allowed to talk about it.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
Okay, then I have no follow up questions. I'll wait
for it.
Speaker 1 (41:13):
It's in the works, Okay, that sounds good.
Speaker 3 (41:16):
In the works well, Vicky, as.
Speaker 1 (41:17):
The writer came to the show and loved it so awesome.
Speaker 2 (41:21):
You're keeping busy, Vicky, I mean, this is more than busy.
That's an understatement.
Speaker 3 (41:25):
That's so cool.
Speaker 2 (41:26):
Every time I talk to you, you're doing something else,
doing something new, and certainly not resting on any laurels.
Like you said, that's a part of your life. It's
a cool part of your life that obviously fans like
me and the GNR podcast focused on. But there's so
much more to you and to talk about and I
appreciate you taking time.
Speaker 1 (41:43):
Like incorporated, I have an S corp now and shareholders
and all this stuff. It's like, I don't know, this
is not who I thought I was ever here it is.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
You know, you're still Vicky at the core, You're still
the roommate. And I'll put pictures over this this episode,
the young Vicky, I like the young one of you
and Jennifer. You know, I'm sure there's a lot of
it's just it's I don't know, it's it's it's bittersweet,
of course, all of this somebody I didn't know. But
you're making me feel like I didn't know a little bit.
(42:17):
I can't imagine it's got to be hard for you
to still talk about it like, so thank you.
Speaker 1 (42:22):
Unbelievable. It's like right before I started working with Guns
N' Roses, Jennifer and I am my friend Teresa, who
was also at the show. Jennifer was like a sun goddess.
She like wanted to go to the beach all the time.
So we were like headed to the beach over to
peg A Canyon and we were going to go to
(42:44):
Malibu in for breakfast, and she said to me, you know,
what would you do if a car was like coming
towards you here on to peg A canyon. I said
to her, well, you know, you know, you would have
to hit them head on because if you went over
the cliff, you were definitely dead, right, And that not
(43:05):
like five minutes later, this like stunt driver came up
at us and we hit them head on right on
toipeg A canyon, and I think I actually died for
a minute. And Teresa's arm got broken, and here's the truck.
You know, it had been the other way around, like
Jennifer's little car, and then you know, this was like
(43:27):
the truck and there were clocks everywhere. He was a
what is it a set designer or whatever, and he
had like clocks all in his car and he was
trying to pull out of the grill and like get
away and stuff. And Jennifer was like hitting me in
the back and I could see it from the back
(43:48):
of my head and going don't die, don't die, don't die,
you know, and it was like I think I was
like actually because I could see the light and I
was like sort of traveling towards it, and the next
thing I knew, I was in the ems, you know,
going to the hospital, and that was right before I
started working with guns and roses. You know, it's like,
(44:08):
oh god, it's like, oh we we still have plans
for you.
Speaker 2 (44:12):
Yeah, wow, for real.
Speaker 3 (44:15):
For sure.
Speaker 1 (44:16):
And ever since then, I've never been afraid of dying.
It was like the feeling was like so intensely good
looking at the light and whatever. So I just know
that Jennifer is in a better place now, you know,
like she was in a lot of pain.
Speaker 2 (44:32):
So you know, oh, yeah, we've somebody everybody myself obviously,
you know, somebody who's been affected by cancer and it's
just it's difficult and then yeah, thanks for that's a
rough story.
Speaker 1 (44:48):
Cancer. It's like, you know, it's like a lot of
a lot of my friends have died of cancer, and
you know, I'm kind of at the age now where
it's like almost as many people are dead as they
are living, and I don't delete them from my phone
or anything because they're still entities and yeah, my life,
you know, and it's uh, I don't know, it's got
(45:12):
to be like the worst way to go, you know.
Speaker 2 (45:15):
Yeah, well yeah, I'm I kind of see too. Well,
she like you said, she's in a better place now
and she was lucky to have She is lucky to
have a friend like you. So Vicky, just thank you
for taking the time to tell me about your friend
Jennifer and.
Speaker 3 (45:31):
Talk a little G and R with me.
Speaker 1 (45:33):
Again.
Speaker 3 (45:33):
I appreciate it as always.
Speaker 1 (45:34):
Oh problem. I mean, she was loved by a lot
of people, you know, me and Slash especially, but.
Speaker 2 (45:42):
Yeah, she, like I said, that's what made me want
to do this, that she pulled together a lot of
cool people like Slash and dof Warren Paige and all
these things. And what I said at Slash saying before
he's met a lot of people in his life.
Speaker 1 (45:56):
Yeah, and he took a lot and he was the
only rock star at the I just want to say.
And she affected a lot of people, so I was
kind of surprised that he was the only one. But
you know, it's you know when you have bands like
writing music in your apartment or your house or whatever.
(46:17):
Like when I was watching those videos in Brazil, it's
like in what you know went through my mind was
like Welcome to the Jungle was on my answering machine
the whole time they lived with me, and I saw
them like jamming that out and whatever, and then you
see that and you're just like, you never know that
the impact that this music is going to have on
(46:37):
the rest of the world. I mean, you know, I
knew that Guns of Roses needed to be heard by
the world. I at least had the foresight to know that.
But you know, music has this way of like healing
people and making it relatable for everyone, you know. So
(46:58):
it's like I try not to pooh pooh anyone's music
because you know, maybe it's not for me, but it
could be for someone else and could really mean something
for someone else. So it's like, what you do? What
I do? You know, It's like, it's important we have
to support these artists because it's you know, harder than
ever for them to make it right now, you.
Speaker 2 (47:19):
Know, And I agree, I completely agree, And that's why
I do this because music is important to my life.
It's important to the people who listen to this podcast life.
I mean, I don't play it, so I talk about it, right,
So that's right. And uh, I got on a personal note,
that's kind of a trip to think about slash.
Speaker 3 (47:35):
You know, I'm Jewish going to a ship.
Speaker 2 (47:39):
I mean, that's that's pretty Uh that's pretty heavy, you know,
thinking about my the ones that I've been to and
you turn around and see Slash there with the mirrors covered.
Speaker 3 (47:49):
Wow. Wow.
Speaker 2 (47:49):
So U again on that note, Vicky, it is emotional
for me and I didn't again, I didn't know. Yeah,
So just because, thank you, and I hope we'll do
this again, and feel free to tag me in any
future Instagram posts.
Speaker 3 (48:04):
You're okay promoting any of your artists.
Speaker 1 (48:06):
Sure, I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (48:09):
So that does it for this episode of Appetite for Distortion.
When will we see the next one? In the words
of Axel Rose concerning Chinese democracy, I don't know as
soon as the word, but you'll see it.
Speaker 1 (48:27):
Thanks to the lame mass security. I'm going home.
We both knew that they were going to be huge
to the degree that they are now. I don't think
either one of us could have predicted that.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Welcome to the podcast Appetite for Distortion, Episode number five
hundred and sixty. My name is Brando. Welcome back to
the podcast, Miss Vicky Hamilton.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
How are you, hey, Brando? I'm good. How are you?
Speaker 3 (00:23):
I'm doing well.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Before we get going, I know, I want to talk
about we talk about some fun stuff, things like that.
I got to say just I'm sorry for the loss
of your friend. That's why we're here. Jennifer Perry. I'm
just a really sorry.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
I like, I still like I'm going to state of
shock over it. You know, I had lunch with Peter
Margolis yesterday and she used to be his agent, and
last year she went to the lunch with us, and
you know, it's just weird that she's not there after
forty plus years, you know.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
So yeah, to kind of gets jump right into because
we've obviously spoken to you about numerous things. Your book
Appetite for Dysfunction, you a lot of guns and roses
stuff the early days. But here I want to, you know,
let people know we're focusing on you know one singular
person who I need to learn about. You know, I
need to know more about because we're Facebook friends and
(01:17):
I saw you know your post how you were friends
for almost fifty years and you mentioned four decades. And
at this point as well, we're recording this a let
me just say happy belated birthday to you.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
That's the first thing I should have said, forgive me
before we got into them.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
That's a big number. But we won't talk about.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
We don't need to talk about that. No, no, no,
that's I've learned not to ask, well, I will have anything.
I'll just say April birthdays or great because my wife,
my sister in law, my son, what are my brothers?
So you're in good company of April birthdays, so regardless
of age. So a few weeks back, as we're recording this,
(01:57):
there was an event rock for Jennifer at the Troubadour and.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
The power of her.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
She was an agent, right and she worked with a
lot of different things. I want to learn about her,
but she got her as a person, got Slash and
Stephen together and Duff together with Gilby and there was
a great performance that it went viral all over.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
It he wore.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Yeah, it really went all around the world or was great?
I mean to run Jennifer's resume, I guess is where
we should probably start. Yeah, please, When I moved to
LA I think I met her in like eighty three
or something. She was booking the Troubadour then, and at
that point in time, I was like working with Striper
(02:45):
and the hind Brothers were trying to figure out how
to make a spiritual band like mainstream, you know. So
you know, we took the Yellow and Black Attack to
the Troubadour, which is where I met Jennifer. She booked
the Troubadour for several years, and you know, we became
really fast friends, and you know, uh, the two of
(03:09):
us sort of ran the Hollywood for a while. She
had a company called Half Wet Productions with a guy
named Robert Berman, who did Oh gosh Odin and Antics,
which was Greg Darling's band back before Darling, Cruel and
(03:32):
Steel On Steel, Panther, Stainless Steel, which was Peter Margolos's band,
and Keel. A lot of different bands she worked with.
But then after a while she uh went to work
(03:56):
at Avalon Attractions. But you know, before that and as
a manager. She like really helped me book a lot
of bands into the Troubadour and around you know, Hollywood.
She was also instrumental in the country Club and a
lot of different bookings around town. But she helped me
a lot with Poison and Guns and Roses and Darling Cruel,
(04:21):
you know, Faster Pussycat. Then it was about that time
that when I moved into the Clark Street apartment, her
and Robert broke up and she moved into the apartment
with me, like I'd only been there a few days,
and then she moved in. You know, it's like here's
me going, yeah, I'm finally going to have my first
(04:43):
apartment by myself. And Jennifer moved in, and then a
few weeks later, Axel moved in on the couch when
the police were coming around their rehearsal hall. And then
of course the whole band moved in. So it was me,
Jennifer and the Guns and Roses folks all in this
one bedroom apartment on Clark Street, which is like, you know,
(05:03):
feet away from the the whiskey of Go Go, and
you know, that's where Slash and Steven basically started their
relationship with Jennifer and you know, she she just she
was always there for me, you know, even to the end.
(05:24):
You know, I had Thanksgiving at her house in November.
But see, so she went from there to uh Tapestry
Artists and work with Tim tim Heiney and I think
that's where she worked with Keel and some of the
other bands. And then she went from there to Avalon
(05:44):
Attractions where she was a concert promoter and she did
a lot major rock shows. And she was a big
advocate for Leatherwolf and Odin who played rock for Jennifer
and also Warrant. She like really helped launch their career. Unfortunately,
(06:06):
I was not able to get Warrant to do rock
for Jennifer because they had something else going on. But
and then she went to work for Sharon Osbourne and
helped develop Ozfest and you know booked a lot of
those bands. I mean when she turned fifty, Ozzy Osbourne
bought her like a reclining chair for her living room,
(06:30):
like you know, welcome to old age. Basically say okay, yeah,
so that's kind of her history.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Uh what was there like her personality like to work
with other personalities like Axel, to like Sharon Osbourne.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
What kind of person was she? Serious?
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Why we called it like rock for Jennifer loud and legendary.
She was loud and very legendary the way that she
did things. I mean, she had this very infectious laugh,
and you know, she loved the sun. She was like
always tanning and uh, you know, I don't know. She
(07:17):
was just like a really fun person to be around,
you know, to have.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
That effect all those years later.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
And something that really struck me watching the videos of
the performance when when Slash was up there, he goes,
I'm paraphrasing a bit, He's like, Jennifer would have really loved.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
This, you know, why didn't you?
Speaker 2 (07:35):
She probably would have said like, why didn't you fuckers
do this when I was alive?
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Right?
Speaker 3 (07:40):
And that kind of really struck me, you know.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
And for them because they're you know, Slash and Duffer,
obviously they're busy. They could they even have to do
that so or to be that special to a lot
of people.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Yeah, they had actually a Guns and Roses rehearsal before
Rolford Jennifer, and it's like five minutes until when Slash
is going on like texting him go where are you at?
And he's like I'm almost there. I'm like, okay, cool.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Oh wow, yeah yeah, because I mean that's kind of
like the headliner, right, I mean, yeah, how did that
the process go to put it together? Because it's a
lot because you're lost her friend and you're putting this together.
I got to imagine it behalf of it. It's really
difficult emotionally and the therapeutic.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
I actually got the word from Slash that she had passed,
you know, and I was like, are you sure you know?
She was like she was in the hospital. She died
of lung cancer. I don't know if that's been said anywhere.
And it was very very fast, Like I had Thanksgiving
at her house and that was around the time period
(08:47):
that she had found out that she thought she had cancer.
I mean, and she died February twelve. So that tells
you kind of the sphere of how quick it really was,
you know. And he called me and he goes, I'm really sorry,
and uh and uh, you know, we started like talking
about it, and I said we should do something at
(09:11):
the Troubadour for her, like, you know, because she used
to book it and stuff. And he's like, that's a
great idea. And then they had a shiva at her
house and we started planning it, and you know, the
Troubadour has booked like three hundred and sixty days a
year pretty much. So it's like they offered us like
(09:32):
a Monday that was like two weeks away, and then
what was the date that it ended up being the
twenty third or something I think, but yeah, so it's
like we took the first gig and I was just like,
there's no way we're going to be able to get
this together. And you know, we were just kind of
(09:52):
thinking that we would have people come to the Troubadour
and then I'm like, well we should like you know,
raise money for music cares or something, and uh, He's
like that's a great idea. I go, we should take
the later date. So then we took the later date
and uh, you know started planning it and he said,
he's like, well, who are we going to get Leatherwolf
(10:13):
and Odin. I was like, yeah, the you know, oh
there like her favorite bands, you know, so uh, I
got Leatherwolf and Odin and then we started putting together
the Jennifer All Stars, which you know, we didn't know
what we were going to call that, but that's what
we ended up settling on that. Actually Christine from the
(10:34):
Troubadour came up with that it works. Yeah, so you know,
we started putting that together and uh, you know a
lot of people came to the table, and you know,
unfortunately several of them were out of town or they
couldn't do it or whatever. But Jennifer had like, uh,
(10:58):
you know, influence on a lot of people's lives.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
So anyone that you're able to mention that just it
could didn't work out just because of scheduling.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
That would have been cool to see.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Oh, Keil really wanted to do it. Ron Keel and
Mark Ferrari and Mark's mom was six in Florida, and
Ron Keel had some I don't know, he's doing like
a country like thing now, and I think he had
something that he had to take care of. You know,
I tried to get warrant. You know, I think they
had things going on as well. I mean, obviously it's
(11:29):
not Janie Lane, but they you know, a new warrant
that's going out there. And Jerry Dixon is also Randy
O from Odin's cousin, so he reached out to him
and that's how we found out that they were Busy
and h and Julian Raymond from Bang Bang, like Jennifer
loved Bang Bang. We're trying to put that together, and
(11:52):
that didn't quite come together. And then I called Jonathan Daniels,
you know, who owns Crush Manager and was in Candy
back in the day with Gilby and whatever. And you know,
Jennifer had like a huge crush on Jonathan back in
the day. And I was like, you have to do it,
you know, and He's like, okay, I'll do it, you know.
(12:15):
So then I had Slash and Jonathan, and you know,
we started like calling others and you know, it started
being Candy and then sort of guns and Roses. I mean,
you know, I was washing dishes and I like was
like talking to Jennifer in my head, like, you know, okay,
(12:37):
who do you want to play this? Right? And then
I got in my car and it was like Sweet
Child of Mind was on, followed by Inner sam Man,
you know, and she had actually done a concert with
Metallica that she like promoted all on her own, you know,
so you know, Slash to call Metallica and you know,
(12:58):
nothing ever really came of that, but not really sure
what they had said. You know, guns and roses, so
went out of two ain't bad?
Speaker 2 (13:05):
And so I mean, yeah, you kind of that. That's
the funny thing and the interesting thing, well, with with Slash,
chances are it's a fifty chance wherever he goes Duff
is going to be there. Their their buddy, right.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
I'm assuming he just.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Asked, well, they happened to be into town because you know,
they had guns and roses rehearsals, so you know, they
were all here and Steven, you know, up until the
very last minute, we didn't know if he was going
to be able to do it or not, you know,
so it was great that he didn't end up being
able to do it. You know.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
So I guess a couple questions there, and only if
you can answer them. I tell this to all my guests.
If you don't want to say anything, just pretend you
didn't hear me, or I cut out or something.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
I was like, oh, what uh with did you try
to for for Axel?
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Because you mentioned, you know, he lived with you for
a bit. I know you haven't spoken to him in
many years, but if they were all in town, was
it like maybe here's the opportunity to.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
Yeah, I did think that, and I asked Slash to
invite him, and he said, he goes, I'll ask, but
you know, I wouldn't count on it. And I was like,
you know, I haven't counted on Axel since nineteen nineties.
I don't know he I don't know what he said
to Slash or anything like that, you know, Okay, I
(14:20):
mean I would like to put that behind me and him,
you know, but not to be yet. You know, I
still don't hear the fat Lady singing on that one,
you know.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
With Steven, you know, it's so wonderful to see him
and then that smile. Of course, everything that he's been through,
he has his own book. Of course, when you said
he we weren't sure he was going to be there.
Was that just a scheduling thing or perhaps dare I
ask a health thing? Like he just wasn't up to performing.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
It was kind of a personal thing. So I don't
really want to go into.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
That, but we'll leave it there. Then we'll leave it there.
Let me.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
I wanted to do it out of the gate, so
you know, it was great that he was able to,
but you know, he uh could only really do one song.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
You know, Okay, I guess because I do ask that
and you mentioned the one song, and I guess it's
how the internet is now. You can't just enjoy something.
You have to like take a good thing and kind
of pick it apart. So you have this reunion ish
of g and are you of Slash and Duff, who
of course were performing together now with gen r. But
you have Gilby and you have Stephen. And I'll mention
(15:33):
something else after it, but the that that came to
my mind. But the first thing is with Stephen. I
see a lot of comments about how the tempo is slow,
and to someone who does, I don't. I don't notice
these things.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
I don't know. I didn't think. So I like, yeah,
there's like this ledge of the Troubadour and then there's
like the stairs down on the stage and you know,
they started playing. I went down the stairs and I
kind of filmed it from the back so you can
like see the whole crowd and everything. I mean, the
crowd was insane when they like went on, you know,
(16:08):
it was you know, many would say that was the
highlight moment when Steven came out, and like, you know,
did that moment you.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Know with Hamy down on vocals. Yeah, he did a great,
great job. So that's why I bring that up because
I we were like, oh, how come on just one
song because Fred Corey Cordrey was there for Corey.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Yeah, he played most of it, you know.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Yeah, So I think that was just like was his
back harder because he's obviously still touring. But I guess
he was just more like was he you know, all right,
I guess, but no personal issues.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Was just leave it at uh, leave it at that.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
And the other thing I found funny, I just kind
of jump off what Slash said, like I don't think
that's you know, don't expect a response as far as
Axel the other comments he would see.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
It's almost like.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Not the Axel could say Slash, don't do this or stuff,
don't do this, especially considering the cause, but the amount
of calls for like why isn't Stephen back of GNR,
you know, coming from it? So I'm just wondering, like
the R they.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Even know what that's about. You know. That's like, you know,
it's like I haven't spoken to Axel since nineteen ninety one,
so I have no clue what's running through his head.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Well as far as like Slash and Duffer concerned. I'm curious.
They're both on social media and it's kind of like,
what because it's it was recently the anniversary of the
Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, and when axel today
you want to do that, it's kind of like, Okay,
I do this once, then you're going to be clamoring
for the reunion when I'm out with this other band
(17:39):
for this other other version.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
So I didn't know if.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
That was going to be an issue. Hey, Slash and
Duff are now performing with Gilby and Steven. People are
going to be clamoring for that as opposed to Richard
and Isaac. So I didn't know if there was any
sort of like, I don't know, hesitancy on the part
of h Slash or Duff just to do it for
stupid pr and click eight reasons or I'm glad that
(18:02):
didn't come about because that was kind of a conversation
within the fan base.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
I'm glad you are all tuned out. Maybe they're all tuned.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Out with all of what the fans are saying, or
some fans are saying, I don't know, I.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Don't I don't pay attention to it. So I don't
really know anything that was being said, but.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
You know, that's an answer.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Honestly, that's an answer in itself that shows you that
we fans, we think about more things more than the
actual artists do.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
I think.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
I mean, I think everybody's kind of moved on in
their lives and they have, you know, their own things
that they're doing and stuff. I mean, I had a
great time working with Slash. Again, it'd been you know
whatever over thirty years, so this is the first time
with you.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
You haven't so you haven't worked with Slash since G
and R like officially in any other events situation.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Well, you know, we've remained friends, but he had you know,
I don't know how many managers in between, like maybe
three or something. So you know, it was fun on
a daily basis to like work with him and like
give him shit. Like you know, for everybody else, it's
(19:07):
like he, uh, he's like this major iconic rock star.
For me, he's just like my kid that I you know,
want to give shit, you know. And he said to me,
what's her name? I think Greta that works for him.
What's her name? Anyway, he said, put her on the
(19:27):
list and whatever he goes. She works really hard. I
was like, yeah, she has to put up with you
every day, smiley face. You know, it's like he's a
I just you know, I like the banter that we have,
you know.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
So it was like that, Yeah, so that that goes
into you know, sometimes if you don't see this in
this case, it is like you don't see it old
friend for a while. I mean, I know you guys
are in contacting your friends, but just to spend that time,
and sometimes it's like, whoa, I don't even recognize this
person anymore. Or sometimes it's like we no passage of
(20:05):
times seem to have happened.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Yeah, that's kind of how it is with him. You know.
It's like I don't know. I mean, Slash is just
really special. I mean, what am I gonna say? I mean,
I just love his personality, and you know, I knew
him before he was anyone. So I think he appreciates
that I loved him then and I still love him now.
(20:30):
You know.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
I think that is important for sure, because I'm sure
like a lot of people that're surrounded by yes men
and we're afraid to say something because they'll lose.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Their each time I see them, you know, it's you know,
it's like a day hasn't passed, you know, when.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Did you kind of step back and like when they're
rehearsing or maybe they're chatting Steven and Slash and Gilby
or all of them, do you kind of just take
a step back and be and watch should be like,
oh this is cool or that again, it was just
like you're watching your kids play, you know, like kind
of interrupting.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Yeah, I mean that sound check. I didn't go to
the rehearsal. I wanted them to all, like, you know,
just put together what they were going to put together.
There was one all star rehearsal and they put that
all together. And I also managed Tamy and Faster Pussycats.
So for me to like see Tamy running guns of roses,
(21:27):
you know, he said to me that he was like
really nervous and that he you know, it was kind
of bucket list for him and whatever, and you know,
it was really great to see that, you know that.
I mean, out of all the rock stars I've ever
worked with, Tamy is like one of the guys that
has always been like straight up with me and like
(21:50):
super cool. So to see see him in that position
after the tough year that he's had that it was great.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
You know.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
I was so happy him and he did a great job.
He totally pulled it off, you know, but I did.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
I kept seeing comments again, the comments that some people
pay attention to you like me, and some others are
better off not paying attention to But like I would
see this band on tour, they should go out. You know,
people for whatever reason unfamiliar with Tamy. I'm like outside
our bubble being like, oh, he's doing a great job.
So and that's cool to hear that. I like hearing
when someone as establishes him gets nervous. That makes me
(22:25):
feel better because I still get I get yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
I mean I found that kind of interesting. It's like, really,
you know, we're nervous as well, you know, and it's
like they you know, they were great. I mean, you know,
I was never like the biggest fan of Leather with
some music, but as I was watching them and Odin,
I was like, Okay, I really get what she saw here.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
You know, I'm sorry to the last part again. Sometimes
they were great.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
You know.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Everybody that played was like right, It's like I have
a new client named Kyle Rising, and I had him
do an acoustic version of Knocking on Heaven's Door with
Jennifer's nephew David Perry and Pedal Steel and that was great.
And then you know, Ricky Rackman was great. It was
(23:21):
just all really really great.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
You know, it seemed like a special event. And for
someone obviously who wasn't there, who's now starting to learn
about Jennifer, it was just really he made us feel
all involved. The way you promoted it, the way Tamy
did on on Instagram, and the videos that came out
and the photos that came out after it really seemed
like a special event.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
So is there our.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Well friend Lee Lee Williams did the artwork for it.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
So Lee Williams, of course, who made those incredible artists.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
She co hosted.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
For those who are familiar with the podcast, she costed
the episode with Jimmy Webb.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Then, yeah, everything to get that happening, and then Damien
Sage made that backdrop. I mean, everybody like really came together.
And then Kim Bailey, who I'm working an animated project with,
did the ads that were animated, and you know, nobody
(24:19):
got paid. It was just like a real coming together
of community, you know, and.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
That's that says a lot about you what you put together,
and that says a lot about her or she's able
to do and bring together, you know, even when she's
not here physically, you know that she's able to get
gather these people to put.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
On a great show. I know.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
There's a lot of great videos out there from fans,
including yourself. I share the video you shot side stage,
anything pro shot that he might come out or no.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Several people like took photos and we're taking videos and stuff,
but I really don't know, didn't like hire anyone to
do that because it seemed a little sack religious to me,
you know, because it was it was a celebration of
live memorial concerts. So I didn't want to like use
(25:16):
it in that way. Okay, Like there were a bunch
of kids at the back door during soundcheck that had
things that they wanted Slash to sign and all that stuff,
and I had, like, you know, when they opened up
the door to leave after soundcheck, it was like Slash
(25:36):
was like really sweet to them. He goes, He's like,
thank you for your interest to do that, but I'm
not here for that today, you know, So I didn't
let people come in with posters or any of that.
You know, it wasn't about that. It was about Jennifer,
you know.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
So yeah, no, absolutely, there's a time and place of that.
I just I really cringe a lot of times these
autograph seekers, you know. I mean there's a time I
understand waiting after a concert or before a concert, but
I mean, especially at an event like this, it's just
I don't know, get a they were young, so maybe
they need to they'll know better.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
I've been awkward asking for photos at times, you know,
with celebrities, so I won't pretend to be innocent there.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
So well, they're fans, I mean, you know, I can't
take that away from them. You know, we wouldn't have
careers if there weren't fans, and you know, I think
everybody was certainly appreciative of that fact, you know, but
that wasn't what this was about, you know. Sure, sure,
honoring a woman that like helped build a lot of careers.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
You know, I know this is kind of a cliche
question that you've asked before about women in rock, and
you've detailed the struggle that you had to deal with,
especially when they got signed to geffriend that they didn't
want a woman. Did what challenges to Jennifer face in
that situation? Is that why you kind of banded together two?
(27:02):
Because am I oversimplifying it? Is that that you were
two women in the I mean, you know, I.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
Think we just clicked. You know, we like had like
similar personalities and you know, back in the day we
loved to smoke pot and shit. You know, we were
just like really close and personalities. You know, it's like,
(27:29):
you know, she was one of my best friends ever.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
You know, what was her reaction because you shared the
story that she was living with you during the whole
bidding war with defen Right?
Speaker 3 (27:41):
So what was her reaction.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
When this band that was once living with her got
signed to this major this major label and eventually became
one of the biggest bands of all time?
Speaker 3 (27:52):
Like, what was her thought? Did she always know that?
Do you ever talk about that?
Speaker 1 (27:57):
Well, we both knew that they were going to be huge,
I mean to the degree that they are now. I
don't think either one of us could have predicted that.
I Mean, I look at those videos from Brazil and
I'm just like, what the hell, that's just like insane
(28:18):
and I said to Slash, you know, you know, you
are so famous and you handle it with so much
integrity and grace. It's just like beyond beyond for me.
You know, It's like, I don't know how he does that,
because when people start grabbing at me, I'm not as
(28:39):
nice as Slash. You know, Slash is consistently nice and
everyone everybody wants a piece of him, and you know,
and you know, I'm an outsider at this point, but
you know, it's like people, you know, will come to
me and say, well, you give this to Slash, and
it's like, you know, forty years later, I got a
kid that like used to sit up inside my apartment,
(29:01):
you know, when I lived in Hollywood, thinking that he
was going to see Slash. I was like, Slash, doesn't come, Harry,
you know, you're going to be waiting a long time.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
That's braf.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
Time is better spent somewhere else.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Okay, the guy had faith. I guess I can give
him some props for that. But yeah, no, that is
difficult to me. Hear that a lot today. I mean,
I know more about this story than I really care
to admit, but that the whole shepe Chappolle Chapelle Roan.
I didn't know how to say her name. Yeah, you know,
it turned out that it wasn't her that turned away
this little girl. I don't know, but you see, everyone's famous.
(29:38):
It seems like everyone's famous nowadays or air quote famous
with tiktoks and how they treat people, and so it's
just wonderful to hear because bad stories get out. This
is consistent. I'm just how Slash, how nice Slashes, how
Duff as Steven, I'll Tamey. Everyone that you had there
just seems to be.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
Everybody was really nice. I mean I didn't even get
to see Duff. It's like, came in so late that
you know, I didn't even get to say hi to him.
I mean it was he was out the door.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
But okay, I was wondering why because there's pictures of
you with Steven and his wife and then with with
you and Slash and Tamy and Ricky. So I was like,
where's Tough and all this.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
I'm like, okay, yeah, I mean, you know, they had
been a rehearsal and then they came and did that.
He probably just wanted to go home, you know, I mean, you.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Know, busy like you said, they're doing a bunch of
shows in Brazil and to look out the sea of
people and just how insanely famous that the country.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
Crazy and you know, it's like there's the bouncing ball
with every word. You know, it's like insane it is.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
It's it's if I feel like it's a like, where
are the first you've gone to see the band? I
know you don't really, It's not like it's like you're
a fan that you know travel, but like if you've
seen them in a far because I want to go
see them in South America or Brazil. That's a kind
of like a bucket list thing for me, because American
crowds just seemed to like we just sit there.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
I've never seen them outside the country, honestly, you know,
I saw him at Madison Square Garden. I haven't seen
them in years, so you know, okay, I mean it's
you know, I know a lot of people go all
the time and see them or whatever, but you know,
I kind of want to remember the little band that
(31:24):
played you know, music Machine and you know the Troubadour
and you know the wild and crazy. You know, I mean,
they are still a great band and like a lot
of bands I worked with, I would never go see
I mean, I would go see Guns of Roses, I guess,
but you know, I just I've moved on in my career,
(31:45):
you know, I don't I don't idolize that part of
my history, you know what I'm saying. It's like I
have a new kid, you know, Kyle, who's like doing
great and labels are coming after him and he's you know,
he's an actor too, and he's up for a couple
of movies and whatever. You know, this is where I
am in my head, you know. And it's like working
(32:08):
on getting the TV series made and I'm doing these
animated projects. You know. It's like that's what I concentrate on.
But I am appreciative of the success that all these
bands have had. And I do go see Faster Pussycat
quite often. It's like, I really think that Faster Pussycat
is a better band now than they were in the eighties.
(32:29):
It's crazy, you know. It's like that kid Sam Bam is,
you know, he's the new slash. He's amazing now. He's
going out with Godsmack. So I don't know what that
means to him and Faster pussy Cat, But he's incredible.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
You know, I got to get Temy back he was
on the podcast once. I got to get him back
on because he was so cool to talk to. And
before we get into what you're talking about all to
expand upon and where we could find the new bands
and new artists you're talking about. The reason I guess
ask is whenever I speak to Peter and Pollyellow, because
he's kind enough that we talk off air. Sometimes he
checks in on me that he'll go.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
See he was like one of my favorite people that
worked at Geffen.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
You know, that's that's cool.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
That makes me because he's so kind to me and
he doesn't need to he just checks in on me.
He's not like for I an interview, he's nothing.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
Now he's like a nice person.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
Yeah, so he'll he'll be like, oh I text, I'll
text Slash and when he's there over by his neck
of the woods, Estonia, he'll go to the show and
obviously he is like you very fond of the g
n R from back then, but he'll he'll still see
them every now and then, uh, when they come around.
So that's what that's what made me think about. You know,
if it ever happened with you and how far he
(33:41):
may have traveled. But that's fine, so let's yeah, let's
pivot too, because there was an artist recently it was
in New York that you had.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
Was that who you're just talking about? You tagged me
in it on Instagram?
Speaker 1 (33:52):
Oh yeah, mother, wend They yeah, they, well, well, Kyle
was just in New York too. Is that what you're
like talking? I don't know what you're referring to.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
You tag me in something on Instagram. This is a
few weeks ago.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
Played uh silver Lining Lounge for Scott Lips.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
Yeah, oh for Scott Lips. Yeah, he's uh yeah, he's
big timing. I'm not I'm too small for that guy.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
Uh yeah, Ryan, how do you say perds?
Speaker 1 (34:23):
What?
Speaker 3 (34:24):
How do you say his last name? Ryan Pirds?
Speaker 1 (34:26):
No, No, Kyle Rising.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
Oh, Kyle Rising. I'm looking at then I'm looking at
another one. You sent me The Return of Rock and
Grunge featuring performances by Ryan Pirds. Oh I see it now,
he's third on the list.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
Kyle Rising. All right, the Dark Spark Vicky do you
tag me so?
Speaker 1 (34:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (34:42):
Yeah, not completely. He's a handsome, handsome man.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
Oh, he's as cute as they come. The other day,
we were out at lunch and we're doing a photograph
with him and his acting late agent. He's like, how
do I look? I go, oh, you're just disgusting you.
I go, I think you roll out of bed looking. Yeah,
he's super cute.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
So where do we go to find Kyle and all
the artists.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
Well, he's you know, he's got some stuff on Spotify
and Apple and all that. He's in the studio right
now with Rick Parker, who you know is one of
my favorite producers to work with, and I have something
new soon. It's like trying just just like get him
to hone in his signature sound. And I haven't like
really been shopping him yet for a label or anything,
(35:32):
but the labels are already coming around and you know,
the acting parts and things, which is great. It's a
little early, but great. You know, I'm glad that people
see what I see, you know.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
And you'll find him and other artists on Dicky Hamilton
dot com. They can check out.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Yeah, I haven't put anything. I mean, I've only been
managing Kyle for a month. It's like, do I even
have put anything up yet?
Speaker 3 (36:02):
Little new So it's.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Like out of the Gate and you know, you know,
playing with Slash and whatever. You know, it's like it
brought him to the forefront.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
So you know, it's, uh, he's the ground running sort
of ground.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
Running, yes, but you know he's been doing this a while.
I mean, he already has like one hundred and sixty
six thousand followers on Instagram. He's uh, you know, he
had another band that did pretty well, and then he
had like a Doors tribute band, and now you know,
he's finding his real self. And Kyle Rising is really
his name. It's not like a stage name or anything.
(36:40):
But oh really, yeah, I know I thought for sure
it was too because Mojo Rising and all that.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
And he's like, well that's what I thought.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
I'm Michael, It's really my name, you know.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
Nice, nice, Okay, cool, And I thought I had a
lot of followers with twenty one point three.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
I forgot to mention too that Gilby's daughter Frank like
saying as well, and she was fantastic as well, you know,
because I'm my boy. And I said to Slash Man,
this is a lot of male energy. We got to
get some girl on there, and we tried to get
Leada forward, but she was you know, an Arizona or something.
So then you know, the opportunity to have Frankie turned up, so.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
And I want to get her on the podcast too.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
Yeah, what's your your relationship with Gilby? Obviously it's it's uh,
it's good.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
You know. I never really worked with Gilby. It's like
my first time, and you know, it was all good,
you know, and he's very organized. When the rehearsal came together,
he like charted it all out. I was like really
grateful for that because you know, I just wanted the
band people to put together what they wanted to put out.
But because he was in Candy and he was in
(37:51):
Guns and Roses, he was kind of the bridge between
the two different camps. So he was able to put
it together, you.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
Know, and the musicians put together this that list. You
didn't have like a request. Okay, guys, can you play
it too easy? Well?
Speaker 1 (38:05):
I told Jonathan that he had to do whatever happened
to fun because that was like a song that Jennifer loved,
you know. So yeah, I think Tamy picked the iggy
pop song and the other punk. There was like three
punk songs they did, and I think that came from
Tamy because Slash text me and said Tamy wants to
(38:25):
do these songs, and I was like, cool, you know,
let's do it.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
You know, okay, cool, cool. I appreciate you sharing all
about this event. I wish uh you know, it's I
feel good like reliving it. Like you're right, that's something
that should not be commercialized.
Speaker 1 (38:39):
You know.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
It's cool that people fans were there. They able to
film and take pictures. There's some really quality photos from
from Jack Blue, gene R's first photographer as your gene
R's first manager, so there's great stuff out there.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
I don't know if he was the first photographer, like
Robert John was the photographer that I worked with the most,
and he, like you know, couldn't make it. He's had
health issues and stuff. But I missed him there. It
felt like I should have seen his face in the crowd.
And then the next days, I mean, because I wish
I would have been there. I was like, yeah, I
wish you would have been there too.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
You know he's still yeah, he's recovering. He had like
a heart deck or a stroke like stroke.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
He did do a shoot for me, like not about
long ago, like a year ago. I mean he's recovering,
but you know it's slow.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
Going, you know, Okay, all right, Well, and I Jacklue
took all those photos with with Mark Canter.
Speaker 1 (39:34):
He did well. He did like a lot of the
live photos always, you know. And I love Jacalute as well,
So I don't mean to pooh pooh Jackaloue at all.
You know, I love him.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
But either way, there's a lot of like old school
GNR stuff that was in jacket into that performance, which
was super cool.
Speaker 3 (39:50):
But speaking of which, of course.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
Several photographers that you know did early guns and rows
of stuff. See the other guy's name, uh God to
call me, and I like, I can't think of his
name right now, but yeah, there were a few, you know.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
One that comes to mind just because I interviewed him
was Kevin Estrada. I don't know, he did some Perkins
Palace Perkins Palace show, so I don't know if that
was the name, but I just had to say that
because that was just a name that came to my mind.
But I get speaking of all this and all this
this history, though you mentioned it before, will kind of
wrap up on this note. The television show we spoke
about that last time, you know, what progress have you gotten?
Speaker 3 (40:31):
This is for now.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
The TV show is the slowest moving thing I've ever
done in my life. I mean, you know, it's been
a real learning curve for me. But the pilot is written,
it's fictionalized. They're putting together a package and like possible
other episodes to go with the pilot, and you know,
(40:54):
the agency's going to take it out to sell it.
Now it's like going to market, you know. So it's
pretty much all I can really say about it. It's
like I'm not really allowed to talk about it.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
Okay, then I have no follow up questions. I'll wait
for it.
Speaker 1 (41:13):
It's in the works, Okay, that sounds good.
Speaker 3 (41:16):
In the works well, Vicky, as.
Speaker 1 (41:17):
The writer came to the show and loved it so awesome.
Speaker 2 (41:21):
You're keeping busy, Vicky, I mean, this is more than busy.
That's an understatement.
Speaker 3 (41:25):
That's so cool.
Speaker 2 (41:26):
Every time I talk to you, you're doing something else,
doing something new, and certainly not resting on any laurels.
Like you said, that's a part of your life. It's
a cool part of your life that obviously fans like
me and the GNR podcast focused on. But there's so
much more to you and to talk about and I
appreciate you taking time.
Speaker 1 (41:43):
Like incorporated, I have an S corp now and shareholders
and all this stuff. It's like, I don't know, this
is not who I thought I was ever here it is.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
You know, you're still Vicky at the core, You're still
the roommate. And I'll put pictures over this this episode,
the young Vicky, I like the young one of you
and Jennifer. You know, I'm sure there's a lot of
it's just it's I don't know, it's it's it's bittersweet,
of course, all of this somebody I didn't know. But
you're making me feel like I didn't know a little bit.
(42:17):
I can't imagine it's got to be hard for you
to still talk about it like, so thank you.
Speaker 1 (42:22):
Unbelievable. It's like right before I started working with Guns
N' Roses, Jennifer and I am my friend Teresa, who
was also at the show. Jennifer was like a sun goddess.
She like wanted to go to the beach all the time.
So we were like headed to the beach over to
peg A Canyon and we were going to go to
(42:44):
Malibu in for breakfast, and she said to me, you know,
what would you do if a car was like coming
towards you here on to peg A canyon. I said
to her, well, you know, you know, you would have
to hit them head on because if you went over
the cliff, you were definitely dead, right, And that not
(43:05):
like five minutes later, this like stunt driver came up
at us and we hit them head on right on
toipeg A canyon, and I think I actually died for
a minute. And Teresa's arm got broken, and here's the truck.
You know, it had been the other way around, like
Jennifer's little car, and then you know, this was like
(43:27):
the truck and there were clocks everywhere. He was a
what is it a set designer or whatever, and he
had like clocks all in his car and he was
trying to pull out of the grill and like get
away and stuff. And Jennifer was like hitting me in
the back and I could see it from the back
(43:48):
of my head and going don't die, don't die, don't die,
you know, and it was like I think I was
like actually because I could see the light and I
was like sort of traveling towards it, and the next
thing I knew, I was in the ems, you know,
going to the hospital, and that was right before I
started working with guns and roses. You know, it's like,
(44:08):
oh god, it's like, oh we we still have plans
for you.
Speaker 2 (44:12):
Yeah, wow, for real.
Speaker 3 (44:15):
For sure.
Speaker 1 (44:16):
And ever since then, I've never been afraid of dying.
It was like the feeling was like so intensely good
looking at the light and whatever. So I just know
that Jennifer is in a better place now, you know,
like she was in a lot of pain.
Speaker 2 (44:32):
So you know, oh, yeah, we've somebody everybody myself obviously,
you know, somebody who's been affected by cancer and it's
just it's difficult and then yeah, thanks for that's a
rough story.
Speaker 1 (44:48):
Cancer. It's like, you know, it's like a lot of
a lot of my friends have died of cancer, and
you know, I'm kind of at the age now where
it's like almost as many people are dead as they
are living, and I don't delete them from my phone
or anything because they're still entities and yeah, my life,
you know, and it's uh, I don't know, it's got
(45:12):
to be like the worst way to go, you know.
Speaker 2 (45:15):
Yeah, well yeah, I'm I kind of see too. Well,
she like you said, she's in a better place now
and she was lucky to have She is lucky to
have a friend like you. So Vicky, just thank you
for taking the time to tell me about your friend
Jennifer and.
Speaker 3 (45:31):
Talk a little G and R with me.
Speaker 1 (45:33):
Again.
Speaker 3 (45:33):
I appreciate it as always.
Speaker 1 (45:34):
Oh problem. I mean, she was loved by a lot
of people, you know, me and Slash especially, but.
Speaker 2 (45:42):
Yeah, she, like I said, that's what made me want
to do this, that she pulled together a lot of
cool people like Slash and dof Warren Paige and all
these things. And what I said at Slash saying before
he's met a lot of people in his life.
Speaker 1 (45:56):
Yeah, and he took a lot and he was the
only rock star at the I just want to say.
And she affected a lot of people, so I was
kind of surprised that he was the only one. But
you know, it's you know when you have bands like
writing music in your apartment or your house or whatever.
(46:17):
Like when I was watching those videos in Brazil, it's
like in what you know went through my mind was
like Welcome to the Jungle was on my answering machine
the whole time they lived with me, and I saw
them like jamming that out and whatever, and then you
see that and you're just like, you never know that
the impact that this music is going to have on
(46:37):
the rest of the world. I mean, you know, I
knew that Guns of Roses needed to be heard by
the world. I at least had the foresight to know that.
But you know, music has this way of like healing
people and making it relatable for everyone, you know. So
(46:58):
it's like I try not to pooh pooh anyone's music
because you know, maybe it's not for me, but it
could be for someone else and could really mean something
for someone else. So it's like, what you do? What
I do? You know, It's like, it's important we have
to support these artists because it's you know, harder than
ever for them to make it right now, you.
Speaker 2 (47:19):
Know, And I agree, I completely agree, And that's why
I do this because music is important to my life.
It's important to the people who listen to this podcast life.
I mean, I don't play it, so I talk about it, right,
So that's right. And uh, I got on a personal note,
that's kind of a trip to think about slash.
Speaker 3 (47:35):
You know, I'm Jewish going to a ship.
Speaker 2 (47:39):
I mean, that's that's pretty Uh that's pretty heavy, you know,
thinking about my the ones that I've been to and
you turn around and see Slash there with the mirrors covered.
Speaker 3 (47:49):
Wow. Wow.
Speaker 2 (47:49):
So U again on that note, Vicky, it is emotional
for me and I didn't again, I didn't know. Yeah,
So just because, thank you, and I hope we'll do
this again, and feel free to tag me in any
future Instagram posts.
Speaker 3 (48:04):
You're okay promoting any of your artists.
Speaker 1 (48:06):
Sure, I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (48:09):
So that does it for this episode of Appetite for Distortion.
When will we see the next one? In the words
of Axel Rose concerning Chinese democracy, I don't know as
soon as the word, but you'll see it.
Speaker 1 (48:27):
Thanks to the lame mass security. I'm going home.
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