March 4, 2025 • 23 mins
The "Duke of Spook," Wednesday 13 joins to talk about his new album "Mid Death Crisis," available April 25th. Weds also chats about his extensive toy collection, Alice Cooper/Marylin Manson comparisons, and partying with Axl Rose right after opening for Guns N' Roses.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You know.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Yes is Appetite for Distortion. Welcome to the podcast Appetite
(00:33):
for Distortion, Episode number four hundred and ninety five. My
name is Brando. You're here in the background background, Baby Brownstone,
who may join us? Who may sip on a bottle
of not Jack? Wednesday thirteenth. I don't know what you
were thinking of milk. He's still he's still young.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Too young, too young.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
I don't know if you remember that movie You're twelve son,
not to you're twelve, or at least they thirteen.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Yeah, not to your thirteen son.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
You know, we were just talking about. You know, I
don't want to make you dizzy, and I have if
you're watching this on YouTube, you have such a great
background with action figures and toys, and I have so
many of my Nija Turtles and Ghostbusters and old wrestling figures.
So before we get into the new album and gn
R and all that fun stuff, I mean, as a
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toy aficionado, well, I guess I see g I Joe
back there? What else do you have back there?
Speaker 1 (01:29):
This is one of the many little clusters of collectibles
I have, But this particular area in my office is
mainly this is mainly g I Joe he Man figures,
and most of it is the original stuff and then
some of it's the the newer but it's still modeled
after the original stuff. I could it can't go into
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a store and see these things up here without buying
them and being a kid from the eighties, like I
still have dreams about going into department stores and looking
through the Action figures. So I literally set this up
as my this is what keeps me me young, and so,
like I said, this is a big of an influence
to me as as music. It's all part of the package.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
I love that because I know we don't have a
limited amount of time, but I feel like I know
you are ready just from following your career with the
Action figures, because I'm the same way going to toys
r us. I mean, I can't believe my son's going
to grow up without a toys r us. I'm gonna
have to tell them about Jeffrey the Giraffe come back.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
It'll somehow come back. But you remember what it was
like to walk into a toy store as a kid.
It seemed like a.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Kingdom, it did, I mean, And that's why I appreciate
you and what you do because your music is also
a throwback is see what I did there the segue?
Speaker 1 (02:49):
It is, it really is, And I don't think I've
ever really realized it so much till now, just how
how much it really dwells in that world. I got
the CD here. I always I'm just looking at what
I'm doing these interviews, and I was just like, the
cover art, everything is what it's what I grew up on.
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It s it looks like a nineteen eighties VHS something
I would walk in the video store and be like,
I got to get this home and watch this. But
so it's never stopped for me, and it's a reflection
of all of this. It's as much Alice Cooper as
it is Skeletor.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
I love that mid death crisis too, very very appropriate.
You're a few years older than me, but there are
certain times like Baby my aka Baby Brownstone Harrison starts
like freaking out. I'm like, oh my god, I'm like
iving a mid death crisis. Now I know how to
phrase it.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
It's crazy because I literally was making a joke because
I'm forty eight years old and I'm forty one, you know, Like,
and I made the joke on tour. I was backstage
and I was talking about something with my daughter, my granddaughter. Something.
I was just ranting and went, I was like, I
was like, maybe when I maybe, when I'm dead, I'll i'll,
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I'll get a break. I was like, but I was like,
but I'm sure something will happen then. And my drummer
walks by and says, sounds like you're going through a
mid death crisis and just kind of just a little
just walk just walking through. Just said it, and I went,
that's a great song title. And I wrote it down
and then I when I started working on the record
and just it was there and I went, that's a
great title. It's a perfect title for this point in
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my life. It's just a sarcastic take on life, but
in a fun way. It's, uh, yeah, you know, we
don't get out of this place alive. And that's the point.
I love that.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
And you mentioned Alice Cooper because if you especially, I
mean if you're familiar with your music, first of all,
but if you listen to the first single and watch
the video for what is It When the Devil Commands
You scroll down to just overwhelmingly positive response from your fans,
and you see comparisons Dallas Cooper and Rob Zombie in there.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Manson. I read all those comments too, and uh, you know,
just because I'm I handle a lot of my social media,
all most of it, and I'm just always I'm just
in the zone on everything, So I read all the
comments because I want to know what my fans think.
I would say ninety nine percent of those comments on
YouTube are positive. And you've got your couple that come
in to tell us that we suck, but no, I
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read that too, and and and they get it. The
overall consensus is Alice Cooper, Marilyn Manson, Rob Zombie and
Kiss were the four I heard constantly. And I'm like,
that's that's good with me because a lot of people
here with their eyes, so they they see they see
my look and they think Manson or whatever. And I
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can understand that. But the music I don't think necessarily
sounds like Manson. No, it's in the same world, we
swim in the same waters, but it's a different it's
a different thing different. Yeah. So that's what makes what
I what I do unique because I am inspired by
all his bands in different ways. But I don't sound
just like one of them. It's a mix of all that,
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and I think that's what works for me. Like the
Alice Cooper thing. There's one record I haven't put out
where I don't there's a line and a song where
I go, oh, I got to Alice that I gotta
Alice that line and when I say Alice, Alice puts
the sarcasm, so he just he talks.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Like this, Yeah, looking at me, I can hear it.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
I do that on my songs. You'll hear it. And
I always call that the Alice. There's four or five
on this record that I can think of right now.
I do the Alice. Oh.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
I love that, And you kind of answer the question
I was going to ask, because obviously those are all
of them. I mean, Alice being the top tier. But comparisons,
I'm a fan of all of them. But at the
same time, you want to be yourself. So has that
have become hard to navigate? The comparisons versus paving away
for Wednesday thirteen?
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Maybe in the beginning, but like this is twenty years
of Wednesday thirteen this year. It's wow, twenty three years
of Murder Dolls, my first band that people know about
now because of Murder Dolls goes back to ninety six,
So it's a long thing for me. You know. I
remember going to see Marilyn Manson at clubs in the day,
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back in the day. He's a really close friend of
mine now and I make the joke I'm like with
him all the time. I go, man, I get called
you every single day of my life since nineteen ninety four.
But he knows I do my own thing. Alice is
a friend of mine as well. He knows I do
my own thing. And both of those guys are buddies
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of mine. They love what I do. I don't ever
think about that anymore. I think back in the day,
I used to always God, I do to separate myself.
But there is little things I do I don't ever
try to. I just do my thing. It's a more
natural thing for me now. I don't really think about it.
But for a new fan that's just seeing me for
the first time, it doesn't know I've been around for
twenty years, and they watch when the devil commands, they
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may see that, go, there's this guy's a new Maryland Manson.
What's he doing? But whatever, that's what you think. That's
great because Manson changed the game. He was the second
coming of Alice Cooper and uh, and I'm glad to
be compared and being associated with those guys.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Yeah, man, I mean though, again, like I said, those
are great comparisons. But and you have the right attitude,
Like that's probably from being from the South that you
have such a positive outlook. I'm a jaded New Yorker,
you know, it's I always appreciate the Southern outlook on Uh.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
I've always been optimistic about things instead of you know,
I just I try to find the good and everything.
I'm the kind of guy that if the bus breaks down,
I don't sit on the road and complain about it.
I fix the bus and get going. Uh So I just,
uh that's just my nature.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
So cool, yo. And then you're going out on a
tour soon. What's your favorite part about touring? Is it
playing the new music, is it visiting friends in different cities,
all of the above.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
It's it's everything. And I'm really fortunate that I get
to do this for a living, and I'm fortunate that
I have I get to travel all over the world,
and so it's all those things you said. For me.
It's like, you know, next week we leave. Our first
show's Friday night. We're in Las Vegas. Haven't been there
in a year. You know, I got a lot of
friends there, so I get that aspect of it. Then
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I get my fans. You know, we get to it's
our first show. I haven't played these Wednesday thirteen songs
in a long time, so I get a lot of
satisfaction out of this in so many ways. So it's
just it's fun for me. I love being on tour.
I love waking up in a different state every day,
and it's all. I know. For some people it could
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be crazy, But like you know, I leave next Thursday
and I get home May fifth, So for think about
that's a long time. It's thirty seven shows on this tour,
but there's two weeks probably of traveling back for so
it's a lot of a lot of time. So when
people comment on our tour days go why aren't you
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coming here, It's like, I'm going to be going for
two months.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Give me a great I can only there's only one
of me. I know it says thirteen, but there's only
one of me, so.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Exactly, and someone goes, hey, you know you should play
my town. I always tell people, I'll guarantee you I
drove further than you did.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Right, I know, because they're all over. And do you
look for since you're kind of a collector, do you
look for kind of like maybe a comic bookstore or
a different toy store and different.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
I love that. And you know what the greatest thing
is now that people know I'm into all of this,
it comes to me for the most most part, Hey,
come check out my store. I'm like, okay. And social
media has just opened everything up. I discovered places. So
when I go to towns and I'm like, oh, why
don't we leave an hour early so we can stop
buy this toy store? And uh, and I pop into places.
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And then I also am very lucky that my fans
hang on my words and listen to everything I said.
So literally, last week I did a podcast and I
talked about, oh, I would love to get these old
nineteen eighties Gary Coleman movies from and I got about
twenty messages and I'm going to have about fifty copies
of this stuff. So I get all this stuff brought
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to me and it's a really cool thing. So when
I come back from tour sometimes I'll come back with
two or three suitcases. Box is full of presents, gifts, things,
eyeball things, and it's just and then it just goes
into the into the collection.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Oh man, I love that. I was telling you off air.
I know we were talking about a little bit off
air that you do play you know whatever, play means
with some of them, because I have my collection, but
none of them were boxed. I have Ninja Turtles with
missing arms. I look at this. Actually this is within
reach because I'm a I don't know if you're a
wrestling guy.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Oh yeah, I know all about the eighties wrestling. I
was a thing in North Carolina.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
So what are my brothers? Is actually slowly but surely
bringing toys from my childhood home here for my son Harrison,
and they're all played with. I don't care. But sometimes
he breaks them. This is an old You recognize this guy.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Right, that's a Jimmy Superfly snooker.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
It is it is. And look what he did to him.
He broke him in half. Oh I mean, I guess
he murdered somebody. So maybe it's whatever. But yeah, I
have you know, PAULK. Hogan with missing parts.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
It's fun, but it's fun like you know, like you said,
this is how I played with them. That's how I
display these guys. Love it. Cobra Cobert, this is the
this is the hooded Cobra Commander mail in Order only.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Wow, and I love you. Got the TV running in
the background like it's like a museum.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
It is. It keeps the vibe going. There's a there's
a twenty four hour G I. Joe channel and a
twenty four hour hey Man channel. So he's just popping
on and he's.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Just you know, before I switch over to the obvious,
you know, theme of the appetite for distortion. You see
my shirt and you see the posters. But you mentioned
he Man and just who you are and the theatrics.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
This.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
I think there's talks of another he Manu reboot or reincarnation.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Is that I've heard about that I think Uh I
think I even saw the guy that's playing uh he Man.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Uh yeah, I won't judge it yet. I mean the
dolph longer and even out cheesy as it is, that
will always live in my heart.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Uh yeah, it's it's horribly awful, but you know, I
have faith for like even the G I. Joe movie,
I didn't want to like it. I didn't like it
at first, but upon several viewings of it, I accepted it.
And it also kind of got me reading the comics
and stuff, and I became even more of a nerd.
So yeah, I don't know. I don't think the my
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love for g I, Joe or he Man will ever
ever die, even if they even if they butcher it.
I still I got this, always have the well.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
I was gonna ask, though, because I've talked about the
topic of you know, Slash as a fan of The
Walking Dead and he submitted a song but he was rejected.
Did you ever submit a song for whether it was
a g I, Joe or he Man or something that
you really wanted but didn't get.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
I don't know if anything submitted. I mean I've always
wrote songs and just as an inspiration, but nothing like
to submit first. I wish someone would ask me to
write song. I would I would absolutely love it. I
would destroy it, I would kill it. It would be
awesome for me to to do a I would love
to do an album of just theme songs.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Do you like one of horror theme songs? I mean,
there's enough horr of no I could.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
I could do all of this stuff. Like even our
drummer live, there's a when we have a drum solo
in between his parts and drum soll we edited in
horror movie samples, so you have like the Exorcists and
the Shining and all this stuff. So it's just all
these are our things that we work into our into
our world.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Oh I love that. And a question because I was
excited to talk to you today. One of my listeners
as well, who actually gave me that Fargo poster in
the back the GNR one Eric from Ohio. He said
he met you a few years ago. He's a huge
fan of your music, can't wait for the new album.
And he told you about when you and Joey from
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Slipknot got to meet Axel in Europe and says it's
a cool story and maybe you could share it.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Yeah, we were murdered dolls in two thousand and ten.
We did about two weeks and Europe supporting Guns n' Roses.
It's just us eat and guns and Roses. And this
is during the time this is the four Guns and
Roses was back with Duff and Slash, So it was Axel,
dj Ashba Bumblefoot so there's that lineup, and they were,
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you know, and this is during the time when you
heard Axel was making people wait two and three hours
or is this that that time when honestly, I think
the social media vibe on him wasn't very good, like
you know. So we went into that tour expecting it
to be kind of what the social media was, but
it was couldn't have been more opposite. They treated us
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like they loved us. I couldn't figure it out, like
what's happening? They were like, you guys can use all
the stage, use whatever you want play How long? How
long can we sound check? Is? How long do you
want to sound check? Like what how long is our set? Well,
you got forty minutes, but do you guys want to
play fifty? Like you know. So they were just super
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cool to us, and over the first week, the band
loved us, the crew loved us. They were calling out
songs for us to play during sound check. It was
a really cool vibe. And I guess Axel heard that
we were cool and he wanted to party with us.
So we were in Switzerland and we would ride at
the arena and they were like, hey, after the show,
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Axel won't the party with you. So when you're done
after the Guns and Rolla show, be here and we'll
come grab you. And after their show, Axel ran straight
to our dressing room, just completely drenched and swiat and goes, hey, guys,
I'll see in a few minutes. We're like that just happened that.
We go into his dressing room about twenty minutes later,
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and somehow in Switzerland there's a full on Hooters backstage, like,
whoa Hooters. There's the Hooters in Switzerland, which I didn't know.
So there's Hot Wings, there's Margarita's full on thing. And
my band is nervous. They're like, well, who's going to
talk to Axel? And they're like, well, you're you're you're
the leader, go find you're the you talk. So I'm
kind of leading the pack and we're all kind of nervous.
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We don't know what to say to him. And we
walk in the room and I see him and I'm
walking up to him and like, hey man. He sticks
his hand out, how you doing, Nice to meet you,
and he just first thing he said was he just
looked at my shoes and went, cool boots, where'd you get?
And I just went Myrtle Beach, just like it, and
it was just like Crickets and he went, cool.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
There's not much of a story there.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
That's stupid, Like that's all I said, Myrtle Beach. And
then we ended up having hooters and drinking and partying
and that was a really cool tour. And they told
us after that tour that we were one of the
only support bands that didn't get booed off the stage. Wow.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Yeah, because I've talked to some some other bands and
people who were like, yeah, it was a rough They
were nice to us, but it was a rough goal
with some of the fans.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
I know. I did it with Iron Maiden with Murder
Dolls prior, and it was it was insane. I've never
seen that many people hate my Guts Guns of Roses
totally different story. So, but there was also ten years
apart from that too, So I don't know. It's metal.
Audiences can can be odd, they don't want you there.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Yeah, they they could. They could be fickle. Uh, you know,
hopefully you get another chance to open up now that
stuff and Slasher or back. You know, it's uh with
Slash with Del James, they're all about horror and collecting toys.
So you think you guys would all be best friends.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
I you know what, stranger things have happened. Will I'm
sure we'll cross paths, you know. Again, I don't. I'm
never going to change what I do. This is, this
is my path till till I'm done. And uh but yeah,
it just seems that the horror world is, you know,
it's just getting bigger and bigger. And I've been I've
been doing this for so long. Someone will eventually come
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around my way and I think I'll be a you know,
dust the dust off me a little bit and go, hey,
what is this guy? What's been doing for a while.
So it's just again, you know, I want to say,
Michael mon Rode from Henoy Rocks told me, you know,
he was like, he's like, one day you keep doing this, man,
he is one day it's going to come around and
people will you know, it may not be interested for you,
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but and I'm like, okay, so one of those days.
I just, you know, I thought I would be a
rock star in my early early days, the big time,
but like, well, here I am coming up on fifty.
I'm like, all right, when's it gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Oh, I appreciate your humility because I mean, you are
successful in the way that I see it. But I understand,
you know, there are levels of success. But I mean
I also people say that to me and I, as
I said the beginning, this is the almost a fifth
hundred hundred episode. You know, I already have a radio career,
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but I've been interviewing for like seven eight years, and
I'm like, when is this going to happen for me?
Because it's funny. What are my brothers who is actually
staying you know, I moved back from Virginia and staying
with us. He listens to a podcast that is just
twelve year old's criticized I were talking about food, and
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he thinks it's the funniest thing ever because obviously they're
twelve and they have no idea what they're talking about. Right,
He's like, it's just so funny. And I'm like, that
has like hundreds of thousands of views. I'm like, I
get the interview, Alice Cooper, I get the interview Wednesday thirteen.
But whatever, people look at me a certain way. I
think it's the.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Same thing with you, you know, I think that's what's
kept me going and driven for so long. It's because
I don't feel like I've ever made it. I made
it to a level, but I didn't make it to
the Metallica Guns n' Roses level. But I'm not complaining either,
I'm just saying, like, I think that's what keeps me
going because I don't ever feel like I.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Got I get, you know.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
But I love that because I think that's what keeps
me going. If I have like I've made it, I don't,
I wouldn't be this interested in it. I think that.
I think that sometimes success can kill it, and maybe
that's been a good thing, is that I've had just
a little little taste of it that kept me. I
want more and it's kept me going. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
No, I completely understand that. And hey, if anything has
gotten to a point where fans bring you toys, so
that's pretty awesome, you.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Know in that sense. I mean when I say that,
maybe that's not the right way to say, is I
haven't made it. I have it, you know, I just
got a goal in my head to go that's the
made it level. But in many many ways, yeah, I've
I've made it to receive I mean most of these
g I Joe figures, but they were all from people
that give give me these things on tour, right, these
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are the ones from tour that I got as from
from gifts and fans bringing them to me.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
It shows and and why I sense it's just while
you are there's accomplishment and be absolutely proud. There's a
certain motivation that's like, Okay, I could still do this,
I can still create this. There's still so much more
room to grow. And I respect that you know you're
not satisfied like I had. This is what we do.
There's no more room for growth. There's always something cool
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and spooctacular, if I can use that term for you.
With Wednesday thirteen, so I know it's a busy day
for you. With a much many more interviews Mid Depth
Crist out April twenty actually twenty fifth, which is the
day before Harrison Rex turns two, So maybe we'll celebrate
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by listening together.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Yes, it's a good fun record. I would say it's
a birthday record. Celebrate birthday with it. It celebrate your
life with the mid death crisis.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
So I hope we get to do this again. So
much more to talk about horror toys, raising.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Kids still on eighties toys and stuff right.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
On well Wednesday. Thank you again so much. That does
it for this episode of Appetite for Distortion. When will
you see the next one? In the words of Axel
Rose concerning Chinese democracy, I don't know as soon as
the word, but you'll see it.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Thanks to the lame ass security. I'm going home.
You know.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Yes is Appetite for Distortion. Welcome to the podcast Appetite
(00:33):
for Distortion, Episode number four hundred and ninety five. My
name is Brando. You're here in the background background, Baby Brownstone,
who may join us? Who may sip on a bottle
of not Jack? Wednesday thirteenth. I don't know what you
were thinking of milk. He's still he's still young.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Too young, too young.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
I don't know if you remember that movie You're twelve son,
not to you're twelve, or at least they thirteen.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Yeah, not to your thirteen son.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
You know, we were just talking about. You know, I
don't want to make you dizzy, and I have if
you're watching this on YouTube, you have such a great
background with action figures and toys, and I have so
many of my Nija Turtles and Ghostbusters and old wrestling figures.
So before we get into the new album and gn
R and all that fun stuff, I mean, as a
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toy aficionado, well, I guess I see g I Joe
back there? What else do you have back there?
Speaker 1 (01:29):
This is one of the many little clusters of collectibles
I have, But this particular area in my office is
mainly this is mainly g I Joe he Man figures,
and most of it is the original stuff and then
some of it's the the newer but it's still modeled
after the original stuff. I could it can't go into
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a store and see these things up here without buying
them and being a kid from the eighties, like I
still have dreams about going into department stores and looking
through the Action figures. So I literally set this up
as my this is what keeps me me young, and so,
like I said, this is a big of an influence
to me as as music. It's all part of the package.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
I love that because I know we don't have a
limited amount of time, but I feel like I know
you are ready just from following your career with the
Action figures, because I'm the same way going to toys
r us. I mean, I can't believe my son's going
to grow up without a toys r us. I'm gonna
have to tell them about Jeffrey the Giraffe come back.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
It'll somehow come back. But you remember what it was
like to walk into a toy store as a kid.
It seemed like a.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Kingdom, it did, I mean, And that's why I appreciate
you and what you do because your music is also
a throwback is see what I did there the segue?
Speaker 1 (02:49):
It is, it really is, And I don't think I've
ever really realized it so much till now, just how
how much it really dwells in that world. I got
the CD here. I always I'm just looking at what
I'm doing these interviews, and I was just like, the
cover art, everything is what it's what I grew up on.
(03:11):
It s it looks like a nineteen eighties VHS something
I would walk in the video store and be like,
I got to get this home and watch this. But
so it's never stopped for me, and it's a reflection
of all of this. It's as much Alice Cooper as
it is Skeletor.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
I love that mid death crisis too, very very appropriate.
You're a few years older than me, but there are
certain times like Baby my aka Baby Brownstone Harrison starts
like freaking out. I'm like, oh my god, I'm like
iving a mid death crisis. Now I know how to
phrase it.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
It's crazy because I literally was making a joke because
I'm forty eight years old and I'm forty one, you know, Like,
and I made the joke on tour. I was backstage
and I was talking about something with my daughter, my granddaughter. Something.
I was just ranting and went, I was like, I
was like, maybe when I maybe, when I'm dead, I'll i'll,
(04:05):
I'll get a break. I was like, but I was like,
but I'm sure something will happen then. And my drummer
walks by and says, sounds like you're going through a
mid death crisis and just kind of just a little
just walk just walking through. Just said it, and I went,
that's a great song title. And I wrote it down
and then I when I started working on the record
and just it was there and I went, that's a
great title. It's a perfect title for this point in
(04:27):
my life. It's just a sarcastic take on life, but
in a fun way. It's, uh, yeah, you know, we
don't get out of this place alive. And that's the point.
I love that.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
And you mentioned Alice Cooper because if you especially, I
mean if you're familiar with your music, first of all,
but if you listen to the first single and watch
the video for what is It When the Devil Commands
You scroll down to just overwhelmingly positive response from your fans,
and you see comparisons Dallas Cooper and Rob Zombie in there.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Manson. I read all those comments too, and uh, you know,
just because I'm I handle a lot of my social media,
all most of it, and I'm just always I'm just
in the zone on everything, So I read all the
comments because I want to know what my fans think.
I would say ninety nine percent of those comments on
YouTube are positive. And you've got your couple that come
in to tell us that we suck, but no, I
(05:22):
read that too, and and and they get it. The
overall consensus is Alice Cooper, Marilyn Manson, Rob Zombie and
Kiss were the four I heard constantly. And I'm like,
that's that's good with me because a lot of people
here with their eyes, so they they see they see
my look and they think Manson or whatever. And I
(05:44):
can understand that. But the music I don't think necessarily
sounds like Manson. No, it's in the same world, we
swim in the same waters, but it's a different it's
a different thing different. Yeah. So that's what makes what
I what I do unique because I am inspired by
all his bands in different ways. But I don't sound
just like one of them. It's a mix of all that,
(06:05):
and I think that's what works for me. Like the
Alice Cooper thing. There's one record I haven't put out
where I don't there's a line and a song where
I go, oh, I got to Alice that I gotta
Alice that line and when I say Alice, Alice puts
the sarcasm, so he just he talks.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Like this, Yeah, looking at me, I can hear it.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
I do that on my songs. You'll hear it. And
I always call that the Alice. There's four or five
on this record that I can think of right now.
I do the Alice. Oh.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
I love that, And you kind of answer the question
I was going to ask, because obviously those are all
of them. I mean, Alice being the top tier. But comparisons,
I'm a fan of all of them. But at the
same time, you want to be yourself. So has that
have become hard to navigate? The comparisons versus paving away
for Wednesday thirteen?
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Maybe in the beginning, but like this is twenty years
of Wednesday thirteen this year. It's wow, twenty three years
of Murder Dolls, my first band that people know about
now because of Murder Dolls goes back to ninety six,
So it's a long thing for me. You know. I
remember going to see Marilyn Manson at clubs in the day,
(07:17):
back in the day. He's a really close friend of
mine now and I make the joke I'm like with
him all the time. I go, man, I get called
you every single day of my life since nineteen ninety four.
But he knows I do my own thing. Alice is
a friend of mine as well. He knows I do
my own thing. And both of those guys are buddies
(07:37):
of mine. They love what I do. I don't ever
think about that anymore. I think back in the day,
I used to always God, I do to separate myself.
But there is little things I do I don't ever
try to. I just do my thing. It's a more
natural thing for me now. I don't really think about it.
But for a new fan that's just seeing me for
the first time, it doesn't know I've been around for
twenty years, and they watch when the devil commands, they
(07:59):
may see that, go, there's this guy's a new Maryland Manson.
What's he doing? But whatever, that's what you think. That's
great because Manson changed the game. He was the second
coming of Alice Cooper and uh, and I'm glad to
be compared and being associated with those guys.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Yeah, man, I mean though, again, like I said, those
are great comparisons. But and you have the right attitude,
Like that's probably from being from the South that you
have such a positive outlook. I'm a jaded New Yorker,
you know, it's I always appreciate the Southern outlook on Uh.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
I've always been optimistic about things instead of you know,
I just I try to find the good and everything.
I'm the kind of guy that if the bus breaks down,
I don't sit on the road and complain about it.
I fix the bus and get going. Uh So I just,
uh that's just my nature.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
So cool, yo. And then you're going out on a
tour soon. What's your favorite part about touring? Is it
playing the new music, is it visiting friends in different cities,
all of the above.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
It's it's everything. And I'm really fortunate that I get
to do this for a living, and I'm fortunate that
I have I get to travel all over the world,
and so it's all those things you said. For me.
It's like, you know, next week we leave. Our first
show's Friday night. We're in Las Vegas. Haven't been there
in a year. You know, I got a lot of
friends there, so I get that aspect of it. Then
(09:24):
I get my fans. You know, we get to it's
our first show. I haven't played these Wednesday thirteen songs
in a long time, so I get a lot of
satisfaction out of this in so many ways. So it's
just it's fun for me. I love being on tour.
I love waking up in a different state every day,
and it's all. I know. For some people it could
(09:46):
be crazy, But like you know, I leave next Thursday
and I get home May fifth, So for think about
that's a long time. It's thirty seven shows on this tour,
but there's two weeks probably of traveling back for so
it's a lot of a lot of time. So when
people comment on our tour days go why aren't you
(10:06):
coming here, It's like, I'm going to be going for
two months.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Give me a great I can only there's only one
of me. I know it says thirteen, but there's only
one of me, so.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Exactly, and someone goes, hey, you know you should play
my town. I always tell people, I'll guarantee you I
drove further than you did.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Right, I know, because they're all over. And do you
look for since you're kind of a collector, do you
look for kind of like maybe a comic bookstore or
a different toy store and different.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
I love that. And you know what the greatest thing
is now that people know I'm into all of this,
it comes to me for the most most part, Hey,
come check out my store. I'm like, okay. And social
media has just opened everything up. I discovered places. So
when I go to towns and I'm like, oh, why
don't we leave an hour early so we can stop
buy this toy store? And uh, and I pop into places.
(10:56):
And then I also am very lucky that my fans
hang on my words and listen to everything I said.
So literally, last week I did a podcast and I
talked about, oh, I would love to get these old
nineteen eighties Gary Coleman movies from and I got about
twenty messages and I'm going to have about fifty copies
of this stuff. So I get all this stuff brought
(11:20):
to me and it's a really cool thing. So when
I come back from tour sometimes I'll come back with
two or three suitcases. Box is full of presents, gifts, things,
eyeball things, and it's just and then it just goes
into the into the collection.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Oh man, I love that. I was telling you off air.
I know we were talking about a little bit off
air that you do play you know whatever, play means
with some of them, because I have my collection, but
none of them were boxed. I have Ninja Turtles with
missing arms. I look at this. Actually this is within
reach because I'm a I don't know if you're a
wrestling guy.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Oh yeah, I know all about the eighties wrestling. I
was a thing in North Carolina.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
So what are my brothers? Is actually slowly but surely
bringing toys from my childhood home here for my son Harrison,
and they're all played with. I don't care. But sometimes
he breaks them. This is an old You recognize this guy.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Right, that's a Jimmy Superfly snooker.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
It is it is. And look what he did to him.
He broke him in half. Oh I mean, I guess
he murdered somebody. So maybe it's whatever. But yeah, I
have you know, PAULK. Hogan with missing parts.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
It's fun, but it's fun like you know, like you said,
this is how I played with them. That's how I
display these guys. Love it. Cobra Cobert, this is the
this is the hooded Cobra Commander mail in Order only.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Wow, and I love you. Got the TV running in
the background like it's like a museum.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
It is. It keeps the vibe going. There's a there's
a twenty four hour G I. Joe channel and a
twenty four hour hey Man channel. So he's just popping
on and he's.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Just you know, before I switch over to the obvious,
you know, theme of the appetite for distortion. You see
my shirt and you see the posters. But you mentioned
he Man and just who you are and the theatrics.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
This.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
I think there's talks of another he Manu reboot or reincarnation.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Is that I've heard about that I think Uh I
think I even saw the guy that's playing uh he Man.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Uh yeah, I won't judge it yet. I mean the
dolph longer and even out cheesy as it is, that
will always live in my heart.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Uh yeah, it's it's horribly awful, but you know, I
have faith for like even the G I. Joe movie,
I didn't want to like it. I didn't like it
at first, but upon several viewings of it, I accepted it.
And it also kind of got me reading the comics
and stuff, and I became even more of a nerd.
So yeah, I don't know. I don't think the my
(13:53):
love for g I, Joe or he Man will ever
ever die, even if they even if they butcher it.
I still I got this, always have the well.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
I was gonna ask, though, because I've talked about the
topic of you know, Slash as a fan of The
Walking Dead and he submitted a song but he was rejected.
Did you ever submit a song for whether it was
a g I, Joe or he Man or something that
you really wanted but didn't get.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
I don't know if anything submitted. I mean I've always
wrote songs and just as an inspiration, but nothing like
to submit first. I wish someone would ask me to
write song. I would I would absolutely love it. I
would destroy it, I would kill it. It would be
awesome for me to to do a I would love
to do an album of just theme songs.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Do you like one of horror theme songs? I mean,
there's enough horr of no I could.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
I could do all of this stuff. Like even our
drummer live, there's a when we have a drum solo
in between his parts and drum soll we edited in
horror movie samples, so you have like the Exorcists and
the Shining and all this stuff. So it's just all
these are our things that we work into our into
our world.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Oh I love that. And a question because I was
excited to talk to you today. One of my listeners
as well, who actually gave me that Fargo poster in
the back the GNR one Eric from Ohio. He said
he met you a few years ago. He's a huge
fan of your music, can't wait for the new album.
And he told you about when you and Joey from
(15:22):
Slipknot got to meet Axel in Europe and says it's
a cool story and maybe you could share it.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Yeah, we were murdered dolls in two thousand and ten.
We did about two weeks and Europe supporting Guns n' Roses.
It's just us eat and guns and Roses. And this
is during the time this is the four Guns and
Roses was back with Duff and Slash, So it was Axel,
dj Ashba Bumblefoot so there's that lineup, and they were,
(15:55):
you know, and this is during the time when you
heard Axel was making people wait two and three hours
or is this that that time when honestly, I think
the social media vibe on him wasn't very good, like
you know. So we went into that tour expecting it
to be kind of what the social media was, but
it was couldn't have been more opposite. They treated us
(16:16):
like they loved us. I couldn't figure it out, like
what's happening? They were like, you guys can use all
the stage, use whatever you want play How long? How
long can we sound check? Is? How long do you
want to sound check? Like what how long is our set? Well,
you got forty minutes, but do you guys want to
play fifty? Like you know. So they were just super
(16:38):
cool to us, and over the first week, the band
loved us, the crew loved us. They were calling out
songs for us to play during sound check. It was
a really cool vibe. And I guess Axel heard that
we were cool and he wanted to party with us.
So we were in Switzerland and we would ride at
the arena and they were like, hey, after the show,
(16:59):
Axel won't the party with you. So when you're done
after the Guns and Rolla show, be here and we'll
come grab you. And after their show, Axel ran straight
to our dressing room, just completely drenched and swiat and goes, hey, guys,
I'll see in a few minutes. We're like that just happened that.
We go into his dressing room about twenty minutes later,
(17:22):
and somehow in Switzerland there's a full on Hooters backstage, like,
whoa Hooters. There's the Hooters in Switzerland, which I didn't know.
So there's Hot Wings, there's Margarita's full on thing. And
my band is nervous. They're like, well, who's going to
talk to Axel? And they're like, well, you're you're you're
the leader, go find you're the you talk. So I'm
kind of leading the pack and we're all kind of nervous.
(17:44):
We don't know what to say to him. And we
walk in the room and I see him and I'm
walking up to him and like, hey man. He sticks
his hand out, how you doing, Nice to meet you,
and he just first thing he said was he just
looked at my shoes and went, cool boots, where'd you get?
And I just went Myrtle Beach, just like it, and
it was just like Crickets and he went, cool.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
There's not much of a story there.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
That's stupid, Like that's all I said, Myrtle Beach. And
then we ended up having hooters and drinking and partying
and that was a really cool tour. And they told
us after that tour that we were one of the
only support bands that didn't get booed off the stage. Wow.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Yeah, because I've talked to some some other bands and
people who were like, yeah, it was a rough They
were nice to us, but it was a rough goal
with some of the fans.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
I know. I did it with Iron Maiden with Murder
Dolls prior, and it was it was insane. I've never
seen that many people hate my Guts Guns of Roses
totally different story. So, but there was also ten years
apart from that too, So I don't know. It's metal.
Audiences can can be odd, they don't want you there.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Yeah, they they could. They could be fickle. Uh, you know,
hopefully you get another chance to open up now that
stuff and Slasher or back. You know, it's uh with
Slash with Del James, they're all about horror and collecting toys.
So you think you guys would all be best friends.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
I you know what, stranger things have happened. Will I'm
sure we'll cross paths, you know. Again, I don't. I'm
never going to change what I do. This is, this
is my path till till I'm done. And uh but yeah,
it just seems that the horror world is, you know,
it's just getting bigger and bigger. And I've been I've
been doing this for so long. Someone will eventually come
(19:38):
around my way and I think I'll be a you know,
dust the dust off me a little bit and go, hey,
what is this guy? What's been doing for a while.
So it's just again, you know, I want to say,
Michael mon Rode from Henoy Rocks told me, you know,
he was like, he's like, one day you keep doing this, man,
he is one day it's going to come around and
people will you know, it may not be interested for you,
(19:58):
but and I'm like, okay, so one of those days.
I just, you know, I thought I would be a
rock star in my early early days, the big time,
but like, well, here I am coming up on fifty.
I'm like, all right, when's it gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Oh, I appreciate your humility because I mean, you are
successful in the way that I see it. But I understand,
you know, there are levels of success. But I mean
I also people say that to me and I, as
I said the beginning, this is the almost a fifth
hundred hundred episode. You know, I already have a radio career,
(20:33):
but I've been interviewing for like seven eight years, and
I'm like, when is this going to happen for me?
Because it's funny. What are my brothers who is actually
staying you know, I moved back from Virginia and staying
with us. He listens to a podcast that is just
twelve year old's criticized I were talking about food, and
(20:53):
he thinks it's the funniest thing ever because obviously they're
twelve and they have no idea what they're talking about. Right,
He's like, it's just so funny. And I'm like, that
has like hundreds of thousands of views. I'm like, I
get the interview, Alice Cooper, I get the interview Wednesday thirteen.
But whatever, people look at me a certain way. I
think it's the.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Same thing with you, you know, I think that's what's
kept me going and driven for so long. It's because
I don't feel like I've ever made it. I made
it to a level, but I didn't make it to
the Metallica Guns n' Roses level. But I'm not complaining either,
I'm just saying, like, I think that's what keeps me
going because I don't ever feel like I.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Got I get, you know.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
But I love that because I think that's what keeps
me going. If I have like I've made it, I don't,
I wouldn't be this interested in it. I think that.
I think that sometimes success can kill it, and maybe
that's been a good thing, is that I've had just
a little little taste of it that kept me. I
want more and it's kept me going. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
No, I completely understand that. And hey, if anything has
gotten to a point where fans bring you toys, so
that's pretty awesome, you.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Know in that sense. I mean when I say that,
maybe that's not the right way to say, is I
haven't made it. I have it, you know, I just
got a goal in my head to go that's the
made it level. But in many many ways, yeah, I've
I've made it to receive I mean most of these
g I Joe figures, but they were all from people
that give give me these things on tour, right, these
(22:22):
are the ones from tour that I got as from
from gifts and fans bringing them to me.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
It shows and and why I sense it's just while
you are there's accomplishment and be absolutely proud. There's a
certain motivation that's like, Okay, I could still do this,
I can still create this. There's still so much more
room to grow. And I respect that you know you're
not satisfied like I had. This is what we do.
There's no more room for growth. There's always something cool
(22:49):
and spooctacular, if I can use that term for you.
With Wednesday thirteen, so I know it's a busy day
for you. With a much many more interviews Mid Depth
Crist out April twenty actually twenty fifth, which is the
day before Harrison Rex turns two, So maybe we'll celebrate
(23:11):
by listening together.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Yes, it's a good fun record. I would say it's
a birthday record. Celebrate birthday with it. It celebrate your
life with the mid death crisis.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
So I hope we get to do this again. So
much more to talk about horror toys, raising.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Kids still on eighties toys and stuff right.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
On well Wednesday. Thank you again so much. That does
it for this episode of Appetite for Distortion. When will
you see the next one? In the words of Axel
Rose concerning Chinese democracy, I don't know as soon as
the word, but you'll see it.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Thanks to the lame ass security. I'm going home.
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