February 17, 2026 • 10 mins
When Nate is forced to leave his fabulous city life behind and move in with his grandparents after a bad breakup, he is determined to escape the confines of retirement community life and his meddlesome grandparents' relentless attempts to 'improve' him. But when his Holocaust-surviving grandfather, Saul (F. Murray Abraham), shows signs of cognitive decline and his grandmother, Miriam, refuses to acknowledge her husband's early dementia, Nate finds himself torn between his desire to flee, family responsibilities, and an unexpected romance with his grandparents' handsome doctor...
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
So you've been there yet. Ero dot Net A r
r oe dot Net not just a podcast, it is
a podcast network. Twenty to choose from, one of them
being My day of Play. I share conversations with thousands
of people every single year, but do you get to
hear the real, authentic talk before the editing process. To me,
(00:20):
that's where the real story is my day of play
only on Aero dot net A r r oe dot Net.
Enjoy your exploration. How are you doing today?
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Cool?
Speaker 3 (00:32):
How are you doing?
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Absolutely fantastic and very excited to share a conversation with
you because I believe in story sharing and this is
definitely a sharing story. It's so touching, it's timeless, it's
it's got such a vibration about it that it invites
us all to explore ourselves.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
That's absolutely perfectly put. I think that's the value of
the film.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
You know before I I don't even want to forget
what we're about, ready to talk about in the way
of Saul. When I hear the name Saul right away,
I go into a completely different world. And if you
don't think I wasn't watching you in the way of
trying to it's like, oh my god, he does embrace
his own version of a Saul, and it's like you
live that name, sir.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Yeah, well, thank you. That's what I try to do
every time. But it doesn't always work. Sometimes it does.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
But but there is a presence about Saul that we
all sit there and we go I'm gonna be honest
with that. I want my own Saul. I want somebody
that I can that I can really have where I
can talk to them and I can share things and
I can learn from as well as be challenged by.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Well, that's what this young man who wrote the script said,
because it's based on his grandfather. By the way, I
have to ask you, you know, I have an initial.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
In front of my name. It's it's it's a tribute
to my father. Is your name really? Are that? The
two initials are O.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
No, it's it's a R R Oe and it's Arrow.
And it's a name that we create in Lewistown, Montana,
back in nineteen eighty one because my wife was looking
for a character for a book and I thought, well,
just go with Arrow, and then I swiped the name
from her and use it as a radio name and
got in trouble all the way through my entire career
because when it came to the arbitron, nobody was writing
down Arrow. They were writing down Harold. But I wouldn't
(02:18):
change my name and I still won't change my name.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Good for you.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
I gotta be honest with you. I love your human side,
especially when it comes to that oscar and you take
it with you and you play with it and have fun.
That is I mean, it just shows the inner artist
inside of you that just embraces every moment forward.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Well, I think it's very important to share the oscar
because how many people chance to see it and hold
it and carry it and take pictures with it. So
it's it's in a French bistro around the corner.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Well, but see, that's what makes you so real is
that it's like it's like, oh my god, he's like
the guy that lives next door and he went on
or even like this past week and when Drake May
from Charlotte went on to the super Bowl, it's like
we were all living through Drake May and we live
through your characters as well.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Thank you. That's a great compliment.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
So in this storyline of Bookends, which is now being
featured at festivals, Nate quickly in his heart. Here's that
it's time to go home. I studied that, and the
reason why is because I can't go home to Montana.
I don't want to because of a fear of having
to stay because of movies like this.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Yeah, it's a tough choice, it really is. It's soul searching, yes,
but in a good way, in a very positive way,
don't you think.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
I do believe that, and I believe it's something that
we need right now. And that's one of the reasons
why I said that it's timeless, because this is one
of those where we're all going to tap into it
at our own time. But when we do, God, the
conversations afterwards, can you imagine what we're gonna be.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Saying, Yeah, exactly, Yeah, if we're around long enough to say.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Them, please do not move. There's more with F. Murray
Abraham coming up next. The name of the movie bookends.
We are back with F. Murray Abraham. What did you
pull from this storyline? Because I mean, there's we all
come to a movie with our own luggage, But when
you have a movie like this, there's got to be
(04:21):
something that you take from it so that you can
make the lighter, the load lighter.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Well, what I want to take from it is the
possibility of impressing people with the responsibility they have to
the older generation. Yes, those people who really really have
trouble getting around and need help, and.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Uh, it's uh, it's a question.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
It's an examination of your own sense of humanity. That's
what I think this whole nation, this whole world right
now could use.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Yeah, yeah, I'm glad that you brought that up. And
the reason why is because one of the things that
I am learning by watching people and listening to people
as they share their stories, is that these caretakers is
they're becoming more and more popular because people want to
know humanisms and a movie like this shows the human
side and it's going to find peace in their hearts.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Well, I think you put your finger on the danger
of AI. When I start to write a note on
my computer, AI starts to make suggestions, I resent that
I don't need someone else. I don't want someone else
to speak for me. I have to figure it out myself. Yes, otherwise,
who am I?
Speaker 4 (05:39):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (05:39):
My god. That reminds me of Mark Twain, who said
that when you are writing, if you don't use your
writing accent, then you are not being fair to your reader.
And I'm going I'm writing whatever I want and do
not put grammar in there because that's my accent.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Absolutely right.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
But Mark Twain must be one of the most quoted Americans.
Nothing else about that, by the way, about writing.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
He said, he said, the difference between the right word
and the almost right word is the difference between lightning
and the lightning bug.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh ooh, because right away my imagination,
because I study Native American spirituality, all of a sudden,
I went into a completely different direction in the way.
That's two forms of language. And the question is are
you willing to learn from.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Each Yeah, exactly exactly.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Where do you pull your story sharing ability? Because you've
nailed it, And is it something that you learned along
the way or is it suing you know.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
I believe that that's one of the things that begins
to be missing in so much of the craft these days. Yes,
writing is a story. A story is magic. It's that
whole thing about once upon a time. I mean, right away,
you're drawn in.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
But I grew up.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
I grew up on radio, and yeah, so there was
no television when I was a kid, so I was
lucky because the stories on the radio were very clear
and the images my mind were absolutely clear. So I
suppose that's where my storytelling, my love of it comes.
But everyone has a love of storytelling, don't you think.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
I absolutely because I grew up listening to radio mystery theater,
and then I was shown Casey Kasem who was sharing stories.
And then when I get to be a jock on
the radio, it was like, you have fourteen seconds over
this song to say something, But even Paul Harvey had
longer stories than that.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Come on, be fair to me, Paul Harvey. My gosh.
And that's the way it is.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
That's exactly what it was. Where can people go to
not only support this movie, but to learn more about
it because this is the talk it's you know, they
always talk about the summer read. I think this is
the summer movie. I think this is the spring movie.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Go go and take your friends and insist that they
go and see it.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Absolutely, it's quite the experience in the way of creating conversation.
And isn't that what you're all about as an actor
is what is the after conversation?
Speaker 2 (08:07):
That's what your hope happens. Sometimes it's negative because you
do stuff that people repeat that you really don't want
to be repeated. But that's part of the gamble you take.
But yes, you do want to be remembered, right.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
But do you hold on to things for movies? Because
I mean I hold on to a lot of things
that I shouldn't be But the thing is is that
that's part of the journey.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Well, that's.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
I think it depends on where you are in your
life at that moment. Because I have I collected things
from different countries where I would always bring something home.
But I'm eighty six years old now and I'm beginning
to get rid of things for the first time in
my life. It's an interesting process because it's it's hard,
but I keep thinking, what in the world am I
(08:55):
keeping this for? I mean, what is my what is
my daughter going to think when she looks at this
stuff and says, why in the hell did it keep this?
Speaker 3 (09:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Yeah, my wife died three years ago and we were
got it for over sixty years, and I'm beginning to
just get rid of things.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
That's all. Well, it's like it's like I have to say,
I have to move on. Hot it's not easy.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Well, I want I want a book from you on
those things, before you toss them or before you question them.
I would love for you to just have a picture
of it and then you write your own storyline around
that so we can all be right there with you
as you're making that choice in life.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Oh well, that's very good of you. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Wow, Well you've got to come back to this show
anytime in the future. Ten minutes with you is never
going to be enough, sir.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
That's your heart man, good block. Arrow.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Will you be brilliant today? Okay, hey, just hold on
a second. Okay, Arrow, yes, sir, you guys have a brilliance.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
I'm sorry, did you finish? Did you wrap up yet?
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Did you said ten minutes?
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Right?
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, So I didn't know if you had wrapped.
I was getting the next station on.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Oh I can go again if you want me to.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
No, no, no, no no. I just wanted to let
you know. I emailed you a request if you could
check it out.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
All right, guys, you'd be brilliant today. Okay, bye, guys,
that's hard. Thank you.
So you've been there yet. Ero dot Net A r
r oe dot Net not just a podcast, it is
a podcast network. Twenty to choose from, one of them
being My day of Play. I share conversations with thousands
of people every single year, but do you get to
hear the real, authentic talk before the editing process. To me,
(00:20):
that's where the real story is my day of play
only on Aero dot net A r r oe dot Net.
Enjoy your exploration. How are you doing today?
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Cool?
Speaker 3 (00:32):
How are you doing?
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Absolutely fantastic and very excited to share a conversation with
you because I believe in story sharing and this is
definitely a sharing story. It's so touching, it's timeless, it's
it's got such a vibration about it that it invites
us all to explore ourselves.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
That's absolutely perfectly put. I think that's the value of
the film.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
You know before I I don't even want to forget
what we're about, ready to talk about in the way
of Saul. When I hear the name Saul right away,
I go into a completely different world. And if you
don't think I wasn't watching you in the way of
trying to it's like, oh my god, he does embrace
his own version of a Saul, and it's like you
live that name, sir.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Yeah, well, thank you. That's what I try to do
every time. But it doesn't always work. Sometimes it does.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
But but there is a presence about Saul that we
all sit there and we go I'm gonna be honest
with that. I want my own Saul. I want somebody
that I can that I can really have where I
can talk to them and I can share things and
I can learn from as well as be challenged by.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Well, that's what this young man who wrote the script said,
because it's based on his grandfather. By the way, I
have to ask you, you know, I have an initial.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
In front of my name. It's it's it's a tribute
to my father. Is your name really? Are that? The
two initials are O.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
No, it's it's a R R Oe and it's Arrow.
And it's a name that we create in Lewistown, Montana,
back in nineteen eighty one because my wife was looking
for a character for a book and I thought, well,
just go with Arrow, and then I swiped the name
from her and use it as a radio name and
got in trouble all the way through my entire career
because when it came to the arbitron, nobody was writing
down Arrow. They were writing down Harold. But I wouldn't
(02:18):
change my name and I still won't change my name.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Good for you.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
I gotta be honest with you. I love your human side,
especially when it comes to that oscar and you take
it with you and you play with it and have fun.
That is I mean, it just shows the inner artist
inside of you that just embraces every moment forward.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Well, I think it's very important to share the oscar
because how many people chance to see it and hold
it and carry it and take pictures with it. So
it's it's in a French bistro around the corner.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Well, but see, that's what makes you so real is
that it's like it's like, oh my god, he's like
the guy that lives next door and he went on
or even like this past week and when Drake May
from Charlotte went on to the super Bowl, it's like
we were all living through Drake May and we live
through your characters as well.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Thank you. That's a great compliment.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
So in this storyline of Bookends, which is now being
featured at festivals, Nate quickly in his heart. Here's that
it's time to go home. I studied that, and the
reason why is because I can't go home to Montana.
I don't want to because of a fear of having
to stay because of movies like this.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Yeah, it's a tough choice, it really is. It's soul searching, yes,
but in a good way, in a very positive way,
don't you think.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
I do believe that, and I believe it's something that
we need right now. And that's one of the reasons
why I said that it's timeless, because this is one
of those where we're all going to tap into it
at our own time. But when we do, God, the
conversations afterwards, can you imagine what we're gonna be.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Saying, Yeah, exactly, Yeah, if we're around long enough to say.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Them, please do not move. There's more with F. Murray
Abraham coming up next. The name of the movie bookends.
We are back with F. Murray Abraham. What did you
pull from this storyline? Because I mean, there's we all
come to a movie with our own luggage, But when
you have a movie like this, there's got to be
(04:21):
something that you take from it so that you can
make the lighter, the load lighter.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Well, what I want to take from it is the
possibility of impressing people with the responsibility they have to
the older generation. Yes, those people who really really have
trouble getting around and need help, and.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Uh, it's uh, it's a question.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
It's an examination of your own sense of humanity. That's
what I think this whole nation, this whole world right
now could use.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Yeah, yeah, I'm glad that you brought that up. And
the reason why is because one of the things that
I am learning by watching people and listening to people
as they share their stories, is that these caretakers is
they're becoming more and more popular because people want to
know humanisms and a movie like this shows the human
side and it's going to find peace in their hearts.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Well, I think you put your finger on the danger
of AI. When I start to write a note on
my computer, AI starts to make suggestions, I resent that
I don't need someone else. I don't want someone else
to speak for me. I have to figure it out myself. Yes, otherwise,
who am I?
Speaker 4 (05:39):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (05:39):
My god. That reminds me of Mark Twain, who said
that when you are writing, if you don't use your
writing accent, then you are not being fair to your reader.
And I'm going I'm writing whatever I want and do
not put grammar in there because that's my accent.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Absolutely right.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
But Mark Twain must be one of the most quoted Americans.
Nothing else about that, by the way, about writing.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
He said, he said, the difference between the right word
and the almost right word is the difference between lightning
and the lightning bug.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh ooh, because right away my imagination,
because I study Native American spirituality, all of a sudden,
I went into a completely different direction in the way.
That's two forms of language. And the question is are
you willing to learn from.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Each Yeah, exactly exactly.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Where do you pull your story sharing ability? Because you've
nailed it, And is it something that you learned along
the way or is it suing you know.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
I believe that that's one of the things that begins
to be missing in so much of the craft these days. Yes,
writing is a story. A story is magic. It's that
whole thing about once upon a time. I mean, right away,
you're drawn in.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
But I grew up.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
I grew up on radio, and yeah, so there was
no television when I was a kid, so I was
lucky because the stories on the radio were very clear
and the images my mind were absolutely clear. So I
suppose that's where my storytelling, my love of it comes.
But everyone has a love of storytelling, don't you think.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
I absolutely because I grew up listening to radio mystery theater,
and then I was shown Casey Kasem who was sharing stories.
And then when I get to be a jock on
the radio, it was like, you have fourteen seconds over
this song to say something, But even Paul Harvey had
longer stories than that.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Come on, be fair to me, Paul Harvey. My gosh.
And that's the way it is.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
That's exactly what it was. Where can people go to
not only support this movie, but to learn more about
it because this is the talk it's you know, they
always talk about the summer read. I think this is
the summer movie. I think this is the spring movie.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Go go and take your friends and insist that they
go and see it.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Absolutely, it's quite the experience in the way of creating conversation.
And isn't that what you're all about as an actor
is what is the after conversation?
Speaker 2 (08:07):
That's what your hope happens. Sometimes it's negative because you
do stuff that people repeat that you really don't want
to be repeated. But that's part of the gamble you take.
But yes, you do want to be remembered, right.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
But do you hold on to things for movies? Because
I mean I hold on to a lot of things
that I shouldn't be But the thing is is that
that's part of the journey.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Well, that's.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
I think it depends on where you are in your
life at that moment. Because I have I collected things
from different countries where I would always bring something home.
But I'm eighty six years old now and I'm beginning
to get rid of things for the first time in
my life. It's an interesting process because it's it's hard,
but I keep thinking, what in the world am I
(08:55):
keeping this for? I mean, what is my what is
my daughter going to think when she looks at this
stuff and says, why in the hell did it keep this?
Speaker 3 (09:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Yeah, my wife died three years ago and we were
got it for over sixty years, and I'm beginning to
just get rid of things.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
That's all. Well, it's like it's like I have to say,
I have to move on. Hot it's not easy.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Well, I want I want a book from you on
those things, before you toss them or before you question them.
I would love for you to just have a picture
of it and then you write your own storyline around
that so we can all be right there with you
as you're making that choice in life.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Oh well, that's very good of you. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Wow, Well you've got to come back to this show
anytime in the future. Ten minutes with you is never
going to be enough, sir.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
That's your heart man, good block. Arrow.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Will you be brilliant today? Okay, hey, just hold on
a second. Okay, Arrow, yes, sir, you guys have a brilliance.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
I'm sorry, did you finish? Did you wrap up yet?
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Did you said ten minutes?
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Right?
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, So I didn't know if you had wrapped.
I was getting the next station on.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Oh I can go again if you want me to.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
No, no, no, no no. I just wanted to let
you know. I emailed you a request if you could
check it out.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
All right, guys, you'd be brilliant today. Okay, bye, guys,
that's hard. Thank you.
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