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of the Christian Research Institute, Hank Canagraph.
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In Acts, chapter seventeen, verse eleven, we read that the
Bhreans examined the scriptures daily to see if what the
apostle Paul was teaching was in fact true, did it
correspond to reality, and for that they were commended as
being noble in character. And there's an important lesson to
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be learned here. The Bahreans were not condemned for examining
what Paul said in light of scripture. Rather, they were commended.
Ultimate authority was not placed in the revelation of a man,
but ultimate authority was placed in the revelation of the Word.
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And I can't over emphasize the importance of examining the
word of God. It's not what I say. What I
say must be tested in light of what God has
already said. An examination requires the use of your mind.
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The Bible exhorts believers to use their minds to honor God.
Examining the Bible might take discipline, but the dividends are dramatic.
So here's how you get going. I want to give
you a couple of points. We'll go right to our callers.
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Find your secret place. Find a place where you can
drown out the static of the world, a place where
you can hear the voice of your heavenly Father as
he speaks to you through the majesty of his word.
Number two pray, pray that Jesus Christ will become ever
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more real to you through your examination of his word.
And then three read systematically. Have a life legacy reading
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lot of you hanging on. We'll go right to your calls.
First up Creighton, Omaha, Nebraska.
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Hi Creighton, Hello, Hank, I thank you very much for taking.
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My call, my pleasure.
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My question was pertaining to the knowledge that one has
to have to require salvation. What is the knowledge of
the Bible that one has to have? To me, you
have to understand what the Trinity is about.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
I think the answer to that question, Creighton, is this,
as I've explained many times in the Bible. Answer Man
broadcast asked, you first have the knowledge of creation. It's
an outer knowledge that lets you know there is a God.
You also have the knowledge of conscience, which is an
inner knowledge that there is a God. God has written
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a knowledge of himself upon the canvas of your consciousness.
If you respond to that light, God will give you
more light. And if you read this in sequence in Romans,
you have Romans chapter one talking about the light of creation,
Romans chapter two the light of conscience, and Romans chapter
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three the light of Christ. So if you respond to light,
you will get more light. The point, however, is this
Jesus said men loved darkness rather than light because their
deeds were evil. If you love darkness, you're not going
to come into the light because you don't want your
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darkness to be exposed. If in fact, you respond to
the light, you will receive the light of Christ. So
it's not the absence of knowledge that damns. It is
the despising of knowledge that damns. Jesus Christ wants to
reveal himself to us, and if we are open to
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the revelation of God, we will receive the greatest gift
that anyone could ever receive, which is a relationship with
Jesus Christ, both for time and for eternity. Want to
go back to the phone lines. Let's talk next to Joslyn, Toronto, Ontario, Canada.
Hi Joslyn, Hi Hank.
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How are you good?
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How are you?
Speaker 4 (05:40):
I'm good. Thank you for taking my call tonight.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
You are welcome.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
I just have a question for you, Hank. It came
up in our bottle studied last week and it kind
of stood there and amaze me that in the Book
of Job Satan was allowed to approach God's throne. And
my question was is he still allowed to do that?
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Well, you got to remember, Joslyn, that everything is immediately
in the presence of God. That is the doctrine of omnipresence.
God is everywhere present to his creation. The issue here, though,
for Satan, is not that Satan cannot be in the
presence of God because everything is immediately in the presence
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of God. It is that he no longer has fellowship
with God. He's estranged from God. He doesn't have relationship
with God. So we can say that even those who
go to Hell in the end because they don't want
a relationship with God and God grants them their will,
their will is I want to be separated from God.
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They are separated from His loving presence. But that does
not mean that God is no longer omnipresent. God is
always omnipresent and always will be.
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Okay, alrighty, Well, I just wanted to say that I
really appreciate your ministry. I listen every night when I'm
home from work, and I've learned so much from you.
So thank you so much.
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Well, God, bless you. Thank you so much for calling.
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And for listening.
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Bless you.
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Okay, I want to go back to the phone lines now,
we'll talk next to John listening in Kansas. Hi John, Hello, Ink,
how are you.
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I'm tired, but I'm still kicking God.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
I am too.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
I've got a question for you. Yeah. I was reading
in Matthew twenty one, starting in verse thirty three about
the evil husbandman and where they stone the people. May
be you sent get his here of the produce, and
then they sent his son and they killed him. Yes,
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it seems to me, I may be blowing win, but
it seems to me like he was actually a prophecy
about Jesus.
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Well, I think you're right. In fact, the conclusion is
that when the chief pre and the Pharisees heard the parable,
they knew that he was talking about them, and so
they looked for a way to arrest him. But they
were afraid of the crowd, because the people held that
Jesus Christ was a true prophet of God, that he
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was God in human flesh, and so they were afraid
of the people. But yeah, there's a very clear parable
that is pointing directly and explicitly to the Pharisees. Because
God had revealed himself in the midst of these Pharisees
and teachers of the law, and yet with premeditation with
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fore thought on a continual basis. They were saying that
the miracles that Jesus Christ was doing were miracles done
through the power of Beelzebub, the prince of demons, and
ultimately they would seize him and kill him because they
did not honor Messiah in their midst. They did not
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want to turn from their traditions and recognize and worship
the genuine temple in their midst, of temple not built
by human hands.
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Well, thank you, Hank, and I really appreciate it. That's
been bugging me for quite a while.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Well, keep reading the Bible, get into the word of God,
and get the word of God into you. There's nothing
better that you could be doing. I want to go
back to the phone lines. We'll talk next to Matthew
listening on Saint Louis, Missouri.
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Hi, Matthew, Hi, you do it, sir.
Speaker 7 (09:30):
What a pleasure, what an honor to talk with you directly.
My question, Tank, is we just lost there. I had
to put down on one of our dogs ninety one
years and dog years today, and I'm trying to find
scripture about that. What is your view on death of
is that an I, Hank, should be not idolized dogs.
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Well, Kelly, I'll tell you, if you live in my house,
you would love dogs and cats. We've got a dog
and more cats than I can count every time I
turn around and meeting a new cat, and my wife
is kind of looking at me sheepishly and trying to
make an explanation for how we got the last cat.
But at any rate, yeah, I mean, I think we
should love the creations of God. I mean, it's just
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unbelievable how creative God is and that He's given animals
to us that we can enjoy and love and have
a relationship with. And of course, if you look at
the Garden of Eden, what do you find? You find animals.
There's no way in which we should think that when
Paradise restored is a reality as a result of the
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second coming of Jesus Christ, that there won't be animals
there as well.
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That's our hope. Yeah, right, God has done a great
work for you. I'll continue to follow you.
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Well, I'll tell you I really appreciate your encouragement. Keep
growing in the grace and knowledge of the Lord Jesus Christ.
And thank you so much for listening to the broadcast.
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How bless you bless your family.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Thank you so much. Well, be right back with more
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Thank you so much, Randy, and we'll go right back
to our phone callers. Next up is Nathan listening to Denver, Colorado. Hi, Nathan, Hello,
I'm good good talking to you.
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Good you too.
Speaker 7 (15:23):
My question is in Revelation, I have a senny mission
of the Holy Spirit. Why is at the end of
the Trinity if it's not going to be there anymore.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
No, you find the Holy Spirit, certainly in the Book
of Revelation. In fact, not only do you find the
Holy Spirit, but you actually find reference to the Sevenfold Spirit.
In other words, you have the Spirit delineated in much
the same fashion as you find in Zachariah chapter four,
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where you read not by might nor by power, but
by His Spirit. And you have enunciated here the seven spirits,
or the sevenfold nature of the Spirit, as it were.
So the attributes to the Spirit are delineated by pointing
back to the ultimate reference in the Old Testament prophets.
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And that's what you have with the Book of Revelation
in general. The essence of Revelation is the unveiling of
a bride, and therefore it's a wedding covenant from first
to last, from beginning to end, from alpha to omega.
So the book starts with seven love letters to a
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persecuted bride True Israel, and that it continues with the
noxious vision of a prostituted bride. Of course, apostate Israel
in much the same fashion as apostate Israel is described
as a prostitute in the Old Testament in graphic Old
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Testament language or pictures. In fact, we see the judgment
of God written on a seven sealed scroll. It's announced
by seven angels with seven trumpets, and then it's depicted
through seven plagues that befall a prostitute in bed with
a beast. And of course at the end you have
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the unveiling of a purified bride, True Israel. She's carried
by the bridegroom over the threshold of Jordan into a
new Jerusalem that comes down out of Heaven from God.
So True Israel is represented by the faithful in seven
churches in the province of Asia. They face the full
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fury of a ferocious beast bent on the obliteration of
the bride of Christ. In the book, you see that
those who do not forsake their first love, they may
suffer persecution for a while, but in the end they
will reign with Jesus Christ forever. And I would say
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one other thing here, and this is important, particularly with
apocalyptic literature like Revelation. Revelation is not a mere book
of riddles. It doesn't originate from a shallow post Christian mind.
It's a book of symbols. And these symbols are deeply
rooted in Old Testament history, and we mistake their meanings
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when we fail to hear the background music of the
Old Testament, and we see that from first to last.
I think of the Tree of Life. It's referred to
in the letter of Jesus to the Church of Ephesus,
but it first appears in Genesis. Or think about the
ten Days of Testing in Schmyrna. They find their reference
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in Daniel. The heavenly manna that is promised to the
Church of p first fell from heaven in Exodus. Of course, Jezebel,
here's a class in case she promotes sexual immorality in
thietyre and this is a mere image of the idolatrous
Jezebel in Kings and many other examples could be given.
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But again, as the letters of Christ to his persecuted
bride utilize images that are deeply embedded in the language
of the Bible. So to the judgment of Christ against
a prostituted bride, is also depicted in Revelation, but finds
its referent in the Old Testament scriptures. So this whole
sevenfold pattern with the Holy Spirit is a dominant pattern
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because it is, as I just enunciated, a predominant theme
in the writings of John By the way, I've written
about this in my book The Apocalypse Code. Find out
what the Bible really says about the end times and
why it matters today. Back to the phone lines, we'll
talk to Doug next. He's listening in Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada.
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I Doug, Hi Hank. I read a book by Charles
Pridgin's Helly Turnable, God's Plans Fail. It's about Hell doesn't
last forever, as we've been taught. But in the back
of my mind I always wondered, well, if Hell is
always existing, does that mean that God hasn't done away
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with sin? God hasn't defeated, well defeated when Jesus died
on the Cross. Understand that for us humans, but for eternity.
I have the struggle grasping that. And then I read
this book and I went Wow, that's interesting, and I
just was wondering to get your angle on.
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Yeah. I mean, he appears to teach a type of universalism,
the possibility that people might be saved after death as well.
But look, if you test all things in like a
scripture and hold fast to that which is good, you
find that this does not fly in face of the
biblical text. I'm thinking about a number of passages Second
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Thessalonians one to nine, for example, where Paul says the
wicked will be punished with everlasting destruction and shut out
from the presence of the Lord and from the majesty
of his power. Now, if the destruction is temporary, how
can it be everlasting? In other words, the plain reading
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of shut out from the presence of the Lord implies
continued existence, and this is something that is taught throughout
the scriptures. Now, what I would say here is that
this is how we should think about things. Because God
does not simply rub out the crowning jewels of his
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creation because they've decided they don't want a relationship with him.
He continues to sustain them in existence, albeit a part,
from His loving goodness and kind presence. And this is
true in this life as well. People who do not
want a relationship with Jesus Christ. They experience certain benefits
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the rainfalls and the just and the unjust, but they
do not experience His loving presence in their lives intimacy
and relationship. And hell is a separation from the goodness
and the glory of God for all eternity, which is
what they want, and that's what God gives them.
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Right, But after death they come to the realization of
what has happened. And the verse I guess I struggle
with is every niche shall bow and every time confess
to Jesus Christ is the Lord. And at that point
in time when somebody does that, they're safe or they're
born again. If you kneel down and confess to Jesus
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Christ is Lord and Savior, then you'd become renewed. So
after death, when the souls are judged, I guess what
I'm getting as they've come to the realization that, Wow,
God is God, Jesus who he said it was my
goodness is terrible. But still I, like you were talking
the other day about levels of having levels of hell,
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the punishment is justified accord to their deeds. So I'm
just wondering does that punishment eventually and where the fire
has purified their soul to a point where you're refined
with fire, and so you become a born against soul.
I don't know.
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In short, the answer is no. And let me cash
that out for you for just a second. Here, all
people have an opportunity to respond to the goodness of
grace of God in this life, which is to say,
it's not that people don't have enough knowledge and therefore
they're damned. As opposed to that, Jesus Christ says this
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to Nicodemus. Light came into darkness. Men loved darkness rather
than light because their deeds were evil. We all have
the light of creation. We have the light of conscience,
so we have an outer light and interlight, and if
we respond to that, we can have the light of Christ.
But there's another point that I want to make, and
that is common sense dictates that without Hell, there's no
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need for a savior. I think little needs to be
said about the absurdity of suggesting that the Creator would
suffer more than the cumulative sufferings of all of humankind
if there's no hell to save us from. Without Hell,
there's no need for salvation, and without salvation there's no
need for a sacrifice, And without a sacrifice, there's no
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need for a savior. So as much as we may
wish to think that all will be saved, common sense
precludes the possibility. C. S. Lewis talked about this. He
said he'd pay any price to be able to truthfully
say all will be saved. But he went on to say,
my reason retorts without their will or with it. If
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I say without their will, I at once perceive a contradiction.
How can the supreme voluntary act of self surrender be involuntary? Conversely,
he said, if I say with their will, my reason replies,
how if they will not give in? And then he
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said this, and I think this is right to your point. Ultimately,
there are only two kinds of people in the end,
those who say to God, thy will be done on
bended knee, and those to whom God says in the end,
thy will be done. In other words, all who are
in hell choose it. Without that self choice, there would
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be no hell. No soul that seriously and constantly desires
joy will ever miss it. Those who seek fine and
those who knock the door to heaven will be opened
out of time for today. We look forward to seeing
you and answering your questions right here next time with
more of the Bible Instament Broadcast.
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Heaven assures us that no matter what we do in
this life, only unconditional love and joy await us in
the world to come. But our Lord warned that while
the gate to Hell is wide, the road to it broad,
and those who enter through it are many, the gate
is narrow and the way is hard that leads to life,
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and those who find it are few. Your generous support,
let's Hank hanograph and see Uri speak out against the
lies that lead to hell. In appreciation for your gift, today,
we'll rush you Hank's book After Life, What you need
to Know about Heaven, the Hereafter, and near death experiences
filled with answers to your questions about life after death.
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