February 7, 2026 • 28 mins
On today’s Bible Answer Man broadcast, Hank addresses the Book of Jonah and whether the prophet was actually swallowed by a whale.
Hank also answers the following questions:
Will the Twelve Tribes have bearing on the end times? Were they annihilated? Bob - Fresno, CA (4:28)
Can you address John Hagee’s teaching on the camel going through the eye of the needle? Jason - Wild Wood, TX (7:26)
Can you address the fundamentals of the Pentecostal faith and the baptism of the Holy Spirit? Edward - Winnipeg, MB (15:11)
My pastor noted that he now denies the divinity of Jesus and that he was influenced by Marcus Borg. Are you familiar with him? David - Burlington, NC (18:35)
What happens to our spirit after the body dies? Is it bad to look forward to dying to meet the Lord? David - Modesto, CA (22:48)
Hank also answers the following questions:
Will the Twelve Tribes have bearing on the end times? Were they annihilated? Bob - Fresno, CA (4:28)
Can you address John Hagee’s teaching on the camel going through the eye of the needle? Jason - Wild Wood, TX (7:26)
Can you address the fundamentals of the Pentecostal faith and the baptism of the Holy Spirit? Edward - Winnipeg, MB (15:11)
My pastor noted that he now denies the divinity of Jesus and that he was influenced by Marcus Borg. Are you familiar with him? David - Burlington, NC (18:35)
What happens to our spirit after the body dies? Is it bad to look forward to dying to meet the Lord? David - Modesto, CA (22:48)
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
From the Christian Research Institute in Charlotte, North Carolina. You
are listening to the best of the Bible answer Man
broadcast with Hank Cantagraph. We're on the air because life
and truth matter. The mission of the Christian Research Institute
is to equip believers to answer life's essential questions soundly
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(00:29):
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pre recorded and now here's Bible answer Man host Hank Cantagraph.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Thank you much, Randy. Before we go to our callers,
want to spend just a moment telling you about Jonah
and the whale answer. The basic question was Jonah swallowed
by a whale? I remember Bill Maher talking about this
is that he used to believe in a man being
swallowed by a whale, and then he graduated the sixth grade.
How are we to think about these things? The Book
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of Jonah contains this story a prophet named Jonah who
was preserved three days in three nights in the belly
of a large fish. And despite skepticism which has led
many to allegorize this fish story. There are good reasons
(01:29):
to interpret it as an actual historical account, the first
of which is this, the details and the descriptions in
the narrative defy allergorization. The Book of Jonah is written
in the genre or in the form of the historical narrative.
(01:51):
The brief mention of the fish does not deter literarily
from the descriptions of Jonah's journey to Jappa, his payment
of the fare, his conversations with the sailors during the storm,
and then his eventual trip to Nineveh. The Christian worldview
presupposes the miraculous. That's what we start with. The universe
(02:15):
itself is an effect, and that effect presupposes a cause
that's equal to or greater than itself. So just as
the uncaused first cause created the universe, so the uncaused
first cause is capable of supernaturally intervening or sticking his
(02:37):
finger in the universe that he has created. Because God
created the universe ex nihilo, or out of nothing, Preserving
Jonah in the belly of a fish poses no problem
whatsoever for a biblical worldview. When we hear of a
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miraculous account of that magnitude, I think it's pretty good
for us to go out and seek a second opinion.
And what's great about the story of Jonah. Corroboration is
provided by no less a second opinion or an authority
than Jesus Christ. Our Lord not only referred to Jonah's
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preservation for three days and three nights in the belly
of a fish and talked about it as a miracle,
but he used it as the basis for prophesying that
he too would be preserved for three days and three
nights in the heart of the earth. As such, Jonah's
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marine rescue is a type of Jesus's miraculous resurrection. So
again we have coroboration from Jesus Christ. He's the one
who spoke in the universe left into existence, so he
was at the embryonic state of the greatest miracle of all.
His opinion counts more than that of skeptics, who in
(04:05):
modern day society want to explain everything through purely natural phenomenon.
I think if you have a truly open mind, you
allow for both natural as well as supernatural explanations for
that which you encounter as you traverse this world. Well,
many of you are hanging on We'll go right to
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the phone calls. First up is Bob. He's listening in Fresno, California.
Hi Bob, Hey, how you doing good?
Speaker 3 (04:34):
How are you?
Speaker 4 (04:35):
And my question is that often when you're discussing eschatology,
you've mentioned that the twelve tribes will have no bearing
on the end times because the twelve tribes have essentially
been annihilated.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Correctly, Well, I'm not saying the twelve tribes have been
essentially annihilated. I'm not saying that there's no warrant for
any genealogical extrapolation. But my point has always been the
same point, and that is true Israel isn't dependent on
a genealogy, but rather it is dependent on a relationship
to Yahweh, the God of Israel. So if you look
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at the Exodus, the Israelites coming out of Egypt, it
was not just Jews that came out of Egypt. It
was also Egyptians that came with them out of Egypt.
And those Egyptians were not counted as second class citizens.
They were counted as part of true Israel. They were
brought into all the types and shadows pointing ultimately to
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Jesus Christ. And you see that throughout the Old Testament
rahab Ruth. You're read it an aster, so it is
a continuous theme. Now, what I have said is that
you know, as we all know from a historical perspective,
when the Assyrians conquered the Northern Kingdom, ten of the
twelve tribes virtually lost their identity, the reason being that
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many of them were slaughtered, many of them were exiled,
and those that remained in the land married with people
that repopulated the land, and they became the Samaritans talked about,
you know, in the New Testament. And therefore, if you
look at what Paul is doing in Acts chapter twenty six,
is he's using an idiomatic expression when he talks about
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the promise of our twelve tribes. He's talking about the
descendants of Israel or the descendants of Jacob. But it's
an idiomatic expression that ultimately does refer to the true
people of God. So the overarching point is God is
not a racist. He doesn't deal with people on the
basis of race. Rather, he deals with people on the
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basis of their relationship with Yahweh, the God of Israel.
I've explicated this many times on the radio, also in
my book the apocalypse code. Look, God's not a real
estate broker, he is not a racist, and certainly those
who are fixated on those things are missing the point.
And Paul points that out in no uncertain terms in
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Glatians chapter four. If you're still looking to the old Jerusalem,
which was renamed not the Holy City but the Harlot
City in the Bible itself, then you're missing the point.
You're still in bondage like Hagar was. We look to
the Jerusalem who is above, She is free, and she
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is our mother, says Paul. Back to the phone lines,
we'll talk to Jason next Wildwood, Texas side Jason, Hi,
hang the.
Speaker 5 (07:31):
Question I had had to deal with the camel to
the eye of the needle, and I heard this toy
from John Hagey. He said that is a needle was
a city, and to be able to bring your camel
into the is of needle, you would have to unpack
everything and then bring it through on its knee. Does
that hold true?
Speaker 2 (07:48):
No, it's absolute nonsense. And this is typical with John Hagey,
who is a Christian Zionist who constantly perverts the word
of God and in this case is using anachronistic thinking
he is rereading the text from a medieval perspective, because
the truth of the matter is this notion of an
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eye of a needle being a place where a camel
would stoop and go through a wall, through a camel's gate,
as it were, is something that was actually concocted in
medieval times. It was not something that came about at
the time that Jesus Christ was actually using that particular metaphor.
So the point here is very clear, and that is
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that Jesus Christ is using a metaphor that points how
hard it is for someone with riches to enter the
Kingdom of God, because we can so easily with riches
become attached to the world as opposed to being attached
to the Savior.
Speaker 5 (08:49):
Okay, so it's not impossible for somebody to be wealthy
because he told me something because it says that godliness
does not equal gain. But he also said, what would
it gain you to gain the whole world your soul?
So the part about taking the market the beast wouldn't
be that part. You know that galis does not equal gain.
He correlated that to me.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Yeah, and of course a lot of this is free
supposition that' said Fault as well. I mean, his whole
concept of the mark of the Beast is completely off base.
I've written about that in my book The Apocalypse Code.
But think about this guy. He says, for example, let
us put an end to this Christian chatter that all
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the Jews are lost and can't be in the will
of God until they convert to Christianity. So he takes
the onus off the Jewish community and places it squarely
on the Jewish christ And then he says this, if
Jesus refused, by his words or actions to claim to
be Messiah to the Jews, then how can the Jews
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be blamed for rejecting what was never offered. In fact,
I'll go a little bit further with this. He goes
so as to say that the Jewish people wanted Jesus
to be their Messiah, but Jesus absolutely refused. So, it
says Hagey, the Jews were not rejecting Jesus as Messiah.
(10:13):
It was Jesus who was refusing to be Messiah to
the Jews. Now, anyone who has read through the Gospels
even once knows full well that Jesus emphatically contradicted that
kind of sentiment. Remember his emotionally charged words when he's
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leaving the temple, O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who killed the prophets,
You who stone those sent to you? How often I
have longed to gather your children together as a hen
gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were not willing.
My point in bringing this out is that when you
listen to a man like John Hagey, you better have
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discernment skills, the ability to disc between wheat and chap,
and heat and light, because he gives you a muddy
mixture of truth mixed with all kinds of egregious errors.
Speaker 5 (11:10):
Yeah, thanks, sir, you get it.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
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Speaker 2 (15:09):
I want to go back to the phone lines. I
want to talk to Edward next. He's listening in Canada, Winnipeg, Manitoba.
Speaker 6 (15:15):
Hi, Edward, Hello, Hank. I really appreciate talking with you.
I have really come to appreciate their knowledge and wisdom
and explaining scripture.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Well, thank you.
Speaker 6 (15:24):
I got a question for you in regards to the
Pentecostal Church. We have been attending it for the last
four years and maybe a bit better. And there's always
some things that I'm not used to which I find
hard to understand, and there's some that throw red flags
for me. One of them happened this Sunday. They had
a pamphlet. It has to do with four and five
year olds and they call it we College, and then
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it says designed to teach the fundamentals of the Pentecostal faith.
That's a red flag for me because it suggests to
me that there's a different faith for Pentecostals than there
is for the rest of us. Then they have things
like baptized than the Spirit, And there are a number
of people we know that supposedly have been baptized in
the Spirit, and yet I don't see their lives any
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different than other Christians. So there's two examples of what
you have a concern about. And I know you have
made comments in the past, and I don't recall what
they were.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Could you found on that a couple of things. First
of all, if you went to let's say a Calvinist church,
let's say you went to a PCA church, you would
have the distinctives of that denomination communicated as well. So
I don't think that there's any problem with a Pentecostal
church saying these are our distinctives as a Pentecostal body,
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this is what we adhere to. In fact, I think
it's good that they're forthrightly communicating that, and any denomination
would do that. And you get to remember that denominations
are separated on the basis of secondary issues. So as
long as this Pentecostal denomination holds to essential Christian doctrine.
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These are the main and plain things of scripture. You
can differ with them on the secondary issues. You can
debate those vigorously, and they could even be wrong on
those points, but that doesn't mean you have to separate
from them. I have been very blessed over the years,
as I mean, one of the great experiences my family
had when we were living back in Atlanta, Georgia, even
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before became president of the Christian Research Institute, was in
a Pentecostal church. And one of my favorite pastors to
this day is doctor Paul Walker, a Mount Parent Church
of God. He was an incredible man who was brilliant,
very biblically literate, and I learned a great deal from him,
and yet I differed with him on his own Pentecostal distinctives.
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And these were things that we debated vigorously, and then
we went out and played golf together. So we sincerely
appreciated one another. I am just in awe of his
biblical literacy and his preaching prowess, and the way in
which he carried on his life in ministry. So Pentecostalism,
I disagree that tongues is the evidence of the Holy Spirit.
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That's a Pentecostal distinctive. I think it may be a evidence,
but to say it's the evidence, I think goes beyond
the plane reading a scripture. But again, that's a secondary issue.
It's not something that divides me from my Pentecostal brothers
and sisters. And therefore I happily set under a Pentecostal
preacher who is grounded in the essentials of the historic
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Christian faith.
Speaker 6 (18:31):
That sounds good, Thank you very.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Much, my pleasure. I want to go back to the
phone lines. We'll talk next to David. He's listening in Burlington,
North Carolina.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Hi, David, Hey, Hey, thank you for taking my call.
This past Sunday, my pastor noted that now he believes
Jesus was not the son of God, but was a
man who experienced divine intervention. And the pastor noted that
he was recently influenced by a book Marcus Borg, and
I know he has read the writings of John Christen
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from the Jesus Seminary. Are you familiar with Marcus Bourg,
because I am not.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Yeah, and I am very familiar with the Jesus seminar.
The founder, Robert Funk, for one, was bent on convincing
the world that the historical Jesus was not worthy of worship.
And he said that emphatically, Jesus himself should not be,
must not be the object of faith. That would be
to repeat the idolatry of the first believers. And so
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he said. His stated objective was to liberate Jesus, because
the only Jesus most people know is a mythic Jesus.
They don't want the real Jesus, he said, they want
the one they can worship, the cultic Jesus. Now, his
co founder was John Dominic Crossen and John Downi. Crossen
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took dead aim at the reser direction of Jesus Christ.
This is what cross And said. Tales of entombment and
resurrection were latter day wishful thinking. Instead, Jesus's corpse went
the way of all abandoned criminal's bodies. It was probably
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barely covered with dirt, vulnerable to the wild dogs that
roamed the wasteland of the execution grounds. So the founders
of the Jesus Seminar make little attempt to hide their
disdain for the biblical Jesus. He's denigrated as a peasant
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Jewish cynic, he's demeaned as perhaps the first stand up
Jewish comic, and the essentials of the historic Christian faith
in process are utterly demeaned and denigrated. So we should
recognize that these are people who are not Christian, people
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who demean essential Christian doctrine, and as such, we should
recognize that they are those that should be countered and
reached with the Gospel. But they're certainly not communicating the Gospel.
They're seeking at every turn to undermine the Gospel once
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for all delivered to the Saints.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
Any advice that she would give in responding to this
link the church or confront.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
No, No, absolutely, you want to leave the church and
you want to find a healthy, well balanced church. But
I think in the process you want to use this
as an opportunity because the fact of the matter is,
you know, the borg all of these people involved in
the Jesus seminar are seeking to undermine essential Christian doctrine.
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So what should we be doing. We should become so
familiar with the truth that we're able to take the
deviations and use them as springboards or opportunity to share
the fact that God created the universe, that Jesus Christ
is God, and that the Bible is divine as opposed
to merely human in origin. So at very least we
should be able to demonstrate that the resurrection is not
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grounded in mythology, but rather in a refutable historical fact.
You can build a cumulative case for the resurrection of
Jesus Christ. We can demonstrate that Jesus Christ suffered fatal torment,
that the tomb was empty, that he appeared and gave
convincing proofs that he had risen from the dead, and
that his appearances utterly transformed scared, scattered disciples into lions
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of the faith. I want to go back to the
phone lines. Talk next to David listening on Modesta, California.
Hi David, Hey, good, thank you.
Speaker 7 (22:55):
I have a question along Pathway. Two years ago, God
rest for soult and my mom was a strong believer
in Lord. I'm just wondering, you know, after we die,
what happens to our spirits.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
Yeah, absent from the body, present with the Lord. So
your mom, my dad who died in nineteen ninety seven,
they're absent from the body. They're present with the Lord,
but they're awaiting something that happens when the Lord appears
a second time, and that is the resurrection of the body.
At that time, their souls will return to their bodies.
Their bodies will rise immortal, imperishable, incorruptible.
Speaker 7 (23:27):
Now is it bad to want to die to see
the Lord? I mean not in me, the suicidal attempts,
because I love living.
Speaker 5 (23:34):
God knows that.
Speaker 7 (23:34):
But so many people fear dead. But I can't wait
for it to come, even though I know I'm still
here on earth for a reason. Is it bad to
feel that way?
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Well, let me give you a personal anecdote. Is something
that happened with my father, who died of the farbrosiing
and the lungs which encroached upon his ability to assimilate oxygen.
And so you might say that he was literally suffocating
day by day and it became very difficult for him
to process even little bits of oxygen. And it was
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a suffocating, very tormenting kind of a death. And I
remember watching my dad as he was slowly dying, and
I said to my dad one day, wouldn't you just
rather go home and be with the Lord, Because I
wanted to know what my dad was thinking. About this,
and I saw his eyes light up and he said, no,
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every day the Lord gives me. Every moment is precious,
and I want to use it for his glory. And
I never understood that until the very moment that my
dad died. I was there and my dad, like a
Jewish patriarch, lay on his bed. He prayed for every
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one of his children, every one of his grandchildren, and
when he got to the last one of them, he
took a final breath and died. And I thought, what
an incredible story about how every moment is precious because
on the last breath he had prayed for his last
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great grandchild. What an incredible testimony to the grace of
God in using every moment in a productive way for
his glory and for the extension of his kingdom. God
has left you here, David, for a purpose. Use the time.
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Don't just mark the time, but make a difference. While
there is yet time. You can be used for God's
greater glory in the lives of people than for the
working out of His kingdom while you are left in
this world, and then there will be eternal rewards. Behold,
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I'm coming soon, Jesus said, blessed is he who occupies right.
Blessed are those who are doing the will of the
Father while they are yet on this earth. Thanks for
tuning in. We'll look forward to seeing you right here
next time with more of the Bible Instrument Broadcast.
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in the making and based on two decades of research
and reflection, Hank Henagraph's monumental book, Has God Spoken answers
what is surely the most important question facing our world.
In Has God Spoken? Memorable proofs of the Bible's divine inspiration.
(27:32):
Hank counters the contentions of the Bible attackers and clearly
shows that belief in the Holy Scriptures is not a
guess or wishful thinking. It is the only logical conclusion
after an honest examination of overwhelming evidence ordered Has God spoken?
From the Christian Research Institute by calling eighty eight seven
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From the Christian Research Institute in Charlotte, North Carolina. You
are listening to the best of the Bible answer Man
broadcast with Hank Cantagraph. We're on the air because life
and truth matter. The mission of the Christian Research Institute
is to equip believers to answer life's essential questions soundly
and persuasively, and to give the reason for the hope
(00:29):
that you have with gentleness and respect. For more information,
go online to equip dot org. The following program was
pre recorded and now here's Bible answer Man host Hank Cantagraph.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Thank you much, Randy. Before we go to our callers,
want to spend just a moment telling you about Jonah
and the whale answer. The basic question was Jonah swallowed
by a whale? I remember Bill Maher talking about this
is that he used to believe in a man being
swallowed by a whale, and then he graduated the sixth grade.
How are we to think about these things? The Book
(01:08):
of Jonah contains this story a prophet named Jonah who
was preserved three days in three nights in the belly
of a large fish. And despite skepticism which has led
many to allegorize this fish story. There are good reasons
(01:29):
to interpret it as an actual historical account, the first
of which is this, the details and the descriptions in
the narrative defy allergorization. The Book of Jonah is written
in the genre or in the form of the historical narrative.
(01:51):
The brief mention of the fish does not deter literarily
from the descriptions of Jonah's journey to Jappa, his payment
of the fare, his conversations with the sailors during the storm,
and then his eventual trip to Nineveh. The Christian worldview
presupposes the miraculous. That's what we start with. The universe
(02:15):
itself is an effect, and that effect presupposes a cause
that's equal to or greater than itself. So just as
the uncaused first cause created the universe, so the uncaused
first cause is capable of supernaturally intervening or sticking his
(02:37):
finger in the universe that he has created. Because God
created the universe ex nihilo, or out of nothing, Preserving
Jonah in the belly of a fish poses no problem
whatsoever for a biblical worldview. When we hear of a
(02:58):
miraculous account of that magnitude, I think it's pretty good
for us to go out and seek a second opinion.
And what's great about the story of Jonah. Corroboration is
provided by no less a second opinion or an authority
than Jesus Christ. Our Lord not only referred to Jonah's
(03:20):
preservation for three days and three nights in the belly
of a fish and talked about it as a miracle,
but he used it as the basis for prophesying that
he too would be preserved for three days and three
nights in the heart of the earth. As such, Jonah's
(03:41):
marine rescue is a type of Jesus's miraculous resurrection. So
again we have coroboration from Jesus Christ. He's the one
who spoke in the universe left into existence, so he
was at the embryonic state of the greatest miracle of all.
His opinion counts more than that of skeptics, who in
(04:05):
modern day society want to explain everything through purely natural phenomenon.
I think if you have a truly open mind, you
allow for both natural as well as supernatural explanations for
that which you encounter as you traverse this world. Well,
many of you are hanging on We'll go right to
(04:26):
the phone calls. First up is Bob. He's listening in Fresno, California.
Hi Bob, Hey, how you doing good?
Speaker 3 (04:34):
How are you?
Speaker 4 (04:35):
And my question is that often when you're discussing eschatology,
you've mentioned that the twelve tribes will have no bearing
on the end times because the twelve tribes have essentially
been annihilated.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Correctly, Well, I'm not saying the twelve tribes have been
essentially annihilated. I'm not saying that there's no warrant for
any genealogical extrapolation. But my point has always been the
same point, and that is true Israel isn't dependent on
a genealogy, but rather it is dependent on a relationship
to Yahweh, the God of Israel. So if you look
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at the Exodus, the Israelites coming out of Egypt, it
was not just Jews that came out of Egypt. It
was also Egyptians that came with them out of Egypt.
And those Egyptians were not counted as second class citizens.
They were counted as part of true Israel. They were
brought into all the types and shadows pointing ultimately to
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Jesus Christ. And you see that throughout the Old Testament
rahab Ruth. You're read it an aster, so it is
a continuous theme. Now, what I have said is that
you know, as we all know from a historical perspective,
when the Assyrians conquered the Northern Kingdom, ten of the
twelve tribes virtually lost their identity, the reason being that
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many of them were slaughtered, many of them were exiled,
and those that remained in the land married with people
that repopulated the land, and they became the Samaritans talked about,
you know, in the New Testament. And therefore, if you
look at what Paul is doing in Acts chapter twenty six,
is he's using an idiomatic expression when he talks about
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the promise of our twelve tribes. He's talking about the
descendants of Israel or the descendants of Jacob. But it's
an idiomatic expression that ultimately does refer to the true
people of God. So the overarching point is God is
not a racist. He doesn't deal with people on the
basis of race. Rather, he deals with people on the
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basis of their relationship with Yahweh, the God of Israel.
I've explicated this many times on the radio, also in
my book the apocalypse code. Look, God's not a real
estate broker, he is not a racist, and certainly those
who are fixated on those things are missing the point.
And Paul points that out in no uncertain terms in
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Glatians chapter four. If you're still looking to the old Jerusalem,
which was renamed not the Holy City but the Harlot
City in the Bible itself, then you're missing the point.
You're still in bondage like Hagar was. We look to
the Jerusalem who is above, She is free, and she
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is our mother, says Paul. Back to the phone lines,
we'll talk to Jason next Wildwood, Texas side Jason, Hi,
hang the.
Speaker 5 (07:31):
Question I had had to deal with the camel to
the eye of the needle, and I heard this toy
from John Hagey. He said that is a needle was
a city, and to be able to bring your camel
into the is of needle, you would have to unpack
everything and then bring it through on its knee. Does
that hold true?
Speaker 2 (07:48):
No, it's absolute nonsense. And this is typical with John Hagey,
who is a Christian Zionist who constantly perverts the word
of God and in this case is using anachronistic thinking
he is rereading the text from a medieval perspective, because
the truth of the matter is this notion of an
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eye of a needle being a place where a camel
would stoop and go through a wall, through a camel's gate,
as it were, is something that was actually concocted in
medieval times. It was not something that came about at
the time that Jesus Christ was actually using that particular metaphor.
So the point here is very clear, and that is
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that Jesus Christ is using a metaphor that points how
hard it is for someone with riches to enter the
Kingdom of God, because we can so easily with riches
become attached to the world as opposed to being attached
to the Savior.
Speaker 5 (08:49):
Okay, so it's not impossible for somebody to be wealthy
because he told me something because it says that godliness
does not equal gain. But he also said, what would
it gain you to gain the whole world your soul?
So the part about taking the market the beast wouldn't
be that part. You know that galis does not equal gain.
He correlated that to me.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Yeah, and of course a lot of this is free
supposition that' said Fault as well. I mean, his whole
concept of the mark of the Beast is completely off base.
I've written about that in my book The Apocalypse Code.
But think about this guy. He says, for example, let
us put an end to this Christian chatter that all
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the Jews are lost and can't be in the will
of God until they convert to Christianity. So he takes
the onus off the Jewish community and places it squarely
on the Jewish christ And then he says this, if
Jesus refused, by his words or actions to claim to
be Messiah to the Jews, then how can the Jews
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be blamed for rejecting what was never offered. In fact,
I'll go a little bit further with this. He goes
so as to say that the Jewish people wanted Jesus
to be their Messiah, but Jesus absolutely refused. So, it
says Hagey, the Jews were not rejecting Jesus as Messiah.
(10:13):
It was Jesus who was refusing to be Messiah to
the Jews. Now, anyone who has read through the Gospels
even once knows full well that Jesus emphatically contradicted that
kind of sentiment. Remember his emotionally charged words when he's
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leaving the temple, O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who killed the prophets,
You who stone those sent to you? How often I
have longed to gather your children together as a hen
gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were not willing.
My point in bringing this out is that when you
listen to a man like John Hagey, you better have
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discernment skills, the ability to disc between wheat and chap,
and heat and light, because he gives you a muddy
mixture of truth mixed with all kinds of egregious errors.
Speaker 5 (11:10):
Yeah, thanks, sir, you get it.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Who are you right back with more of your questions.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
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Speaker 2 (15:09):
I want to go back to the phone lines. I
want to talk to Edward next. He's listening in Canada, Winnipeg, Manitoba.
Speaker 6 (15:15):
Hi, Edward, Hello, Hank. I really appreciate talking with you.
I have really come to appreciate their knowledge and wisdom
and explaining scripture.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Well, thank you.
Speaker 6 (15:24):
I got a question for you in regards to the
Pentecostal Church. We have been attending it for the last
four years and maybe a bit better. And there's always
some things that I'm not used to which I find
hard to understand, and there's some that throw red flags
for me. One of them happened this Sunday. They had
a pamphlet. It has to do with four and five
year olds and they call it we College, and then
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it says designed to teach the fundamentals of the Pentecostal faith.
That's a red flag for me because it suggests to
me that there's a different faith for Pentecostals than there
is for the rest of us. Then they have things
like baptized than the Spirit, And there are a number
of people we know that supposedly have been baptized in
the Spirit, and yet I don't see their lives any
(16:07):
different than other Christians. So there's two examples of what
you have a concern about. And I know you have
made comments in the past, and I don't recall what
they were.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Could you found on that a couple of things. First
of all, if you went to let's say a Calvinist church,
let's say you went to a PCA church, you would
have the distinctives of that denomination communicated as well. So
I don't think that there's any problem with a Pentecostal
church saying these are our distinctives as a Pentecostal body,
(16:40):
this is what we adhere to. In fact, I think
it's good that they're forthrightly communicating that, and any denomination
would do that. And you get to remember that denominations
are separated on the basis of secondary issues. So as
long as this Pentecostal denomination holds to essential Christian doctrine.
(17:03):
These are the main and plain things of scripture. You
can differ with them on the secondary issues. You can
debate those vigorously, and they could even be wrong on
those points, but that doesn't mean you have to separate
from them. I have been very blessed over the years,
as I mean, one of the great experiences my family
had when we were living back in Atlanta, Georgia, even
(17:25):
before became president of the Christian Research Institute, was in
a Pentecostal church. And one of my favorite pastors to
this day is doctor Paul Walker, a Mount Parent Church
of God. He was an incredible man who was brilliant,
very biblically literate, and I learned a great deal from him,
and yet I differed with him on his own Pentecostal distinctives.
(17:49):
And these were things that we debated vigorously, and then
we went out and played golf together. So we sincerely
appreciated one another. I am just in awe of his
biblical literacy and his preaching prowess, and the way in
which he carried on his life in ministry. So Pentecostalism,
I disagree that tongues is the evidence of the Holy Spirit.
(18:10):
That's a Pentecostal distinctive. I think it may be a evidence,
but to say it's the evidence, I think goes beyond
the plane reading a scripture. But again, that's a secondary issue.
It's not something that divides me from my Pentecostal brothers
and sisters. And therefore I happily set under a Pentecostal
preacher who is grounded in the essentials of the historic
(18:30):
Christian faith.
Speaker 6 (18:31):
That sounds good, Thank you very.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Much, my pleasure. I want to go back to the
phone lines. We'll talk next to David. He's listening in Burlington,
North Carolina.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Hi, David, Hey, Hey, thank you for taking my call.
This past Sunday, my pastor noted that now he believes
Jesus was not the son of God, but was a
man who experienced divine intervention. And the pastor noted that
he was recently influenced by a book Marcus Borg, and
I know he has read the writings of John Christen
(19:04):
from the Jesus Seminary. Are you familiar with Marcus Bourg,
because I am not.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Yeah, and I am very familiar with the Jesus seminar.
The founder, Robert Funk, for one, was bent on convincing
the world that the historical Jesus was not worthy of worship.
And he said that emphatically, Jesus himself should not be,
must not be the object of faith. That would be
to repeat the idolatry of the first believers. And so
(19:34):
he said. His stated objective was to liberate Jesus, because
the only Jesus most people know is a mythic Jesus.
They don't want the real Jesus, he said, they want
the one they can worship, the cultic Jesus. Now, his
co founder was John Dominic Crossen and John Downi. Crossen
(19:58):
took dead aim at the reser direction of Jesus Christ.
This is what cross And said. Tales of entombment and
resurrection were latter day wishful thinking. Instead, Jesus's corpse went
the way of all abandoned criminal's bodies. It was probably
(20:21):
barely covered with dirt, vulnerable to the wild dogs that
roamed the wasteland of the execution grounds. So the founders
of the Jesus Seminar make little attempt to hide their
disdain for the biblical Jesus. He's denigrated as a peasant
(20:43):
Jewish cynic, he's demeaned as perhaps the first stand up
Jewish comic, and the essentials of the historic Christian faith
in process are utterly demeaned and denigrated. So we should
recognize that these are people who are not Christian, people
(21:09):
who demean essential Christian doctrine, and as such, we should
recognize that they are those that should be countered and
reached with the Gospel. But they're certainly not communicating the Gospel.
They're seeking at every turn to undermine the Gospel once
(21:30):
for all delivered to the Saints.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
Any advice that she would give in responding to this
link the church or confront.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
No, No, absolutely, you want to leave the church and
you want to find a healthy, well balanced church. But
I think in the process you want to use this
as an opportunity because the fact of the matter is,
you know, the borg all of these people involved in
the Jesus seminar are seeking to undermine essential Christian doctrine.
(21:59):
So what should we be doing. We should become so
familiar with the truth that we're able to take the
deviations and use them as springboards or opportunity to share
the fact that God created the universe, that Jesus Christ
is God, and that the Bible is divine as opposed
to merely human in origin. So at very least we
should be able to demonstrate that the resurrection is not
(22:22):
grounded in mythology, but rather in a refutable historical fact.
You can build a cumulative case for the resurrection of
Jesus Christ. We can demonstrate that Jesus Christ suffered fatal torment,
that the tomb was empty, that he appeared and gave
convincing proofs that he had risen from the dead, and
that his appearances utterly transformed scared, scattered disciples into lions
(22:45):
of the faith. I want to go back to the
phone lines. Talk next to David listening on Modesta, California.
Hi David, Hey, good, thank you.
Speaker 7 (22:55):
I have a question along Pathway. Two years ago, God
rest for soult and my mom was a strong believer
in Lord. I'm just wondering, you know, after we die,
what happens to our spirits.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
Yeah, absent from the body, present with the Lord. So
your mom, my dad who died in nineteen ninety seven,
they're absent from the body. They're present with the Lord,
but they're awaiting something that happens when the Lord appears
a second time, and that is the resurrection of the body.
At that time, their souls will return to their bodies.
Their bodies will rise immortal, imperishable, incorruptible.
Speaker 7 (23:27):
Now is it bad to want to die to see
the Lord? I mean not in me, the suicidal attempts,
because I love living.
Speaker 5 (23:34):
God knows that.
Speaker 7 (23:34):
But so many people fear dead. But I can't wait
for it to come, even though I know I'm still
here on earth for a reason. Is it bad to
feel that way?
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Well, let me give you a personal anecdote. Is something
that happened with my father, who died of the farbrosiing
and the lungs which encroached upon his ability to assimilate oxygen.
And so you might say that he was literally suffocating
day by day and it became very difficult for him
to process even little bits of oxygen. And it was
(24:04):
a suffocating, very tormenting kind of a death. And I
remember watching my dad as he was slowly dying, and
I said to my dad one day, wouldn't you just
rather go home and be with the Lord, Because I
wanted to know what my dad was thinking. About this,
and I saw his eyes light up and he said, no,
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every day the Lord gives me. Every moment is precious,
and I want to use it for his glory. And
I never understood that until the very moment that my
dad died. I was there and my dad, like a
Jewish patriarch, lay on his bed. He prayed for every
(24:48):
one of his children, every one of his grandchildren, and
when he got to the last one of them, he
took a final breath and died. And I thought, what
an incredible story about how every moment is precious because
on the last breath he had prayed for his last
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great grandchild. What an incredible testimony to the grace of
God in using every moment in a productive way for
his glory and for the extension of his kingdom. God
has left you here, David, for a purpose. Use the time.
(25:32):
Don't just mark the time, but make a difference. While
there is yet time. You can be used for God's
greater glory in the lives of people than for the
working out of His kingdom while you are left in
this world, and then there will be eternal rewards. Behold,
(25:53):
I'm coming soon, Jesus said, blessed is he who occupies right.
Blessed are those who are doing the will of the
Father while they are yet on this earth. Thanks for
tuning in. We'll look forward to seeing you right here
next time with more of the Bible Instrument Broadcast.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
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