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Speaker 1 (00:07):
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Speaker 2 (00:51):
Thank you very much, Randian. We'll go to your calls momentarily,
but I want to start the broadcast today by saying
something about having an eternal perspective. How do you develop
an eternal perspective? And this is critical. We develop this
kind of a perspective by saturating ourselves with the Word
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of God. Jesus modeled daily devotion to the Word in
the ultimate spiritual battle, Remember he takes up the sword
of the spirit. He had not only mind, but memorized
and meditated on the Word of God and Therefore, when
Satan tried to tempt him to turn stones into bread,
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he said, it is written man does not live on
bread alone, but by every word that comes from the
mouth of God. And we begin to view this world
with an eye towards eternity when we focus on the
needs of other people. And Jesus Christ sacrificed himself for
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the sins of the world, and we too must learn
to live self lesslie rather than selfishly. At the judgment,
those who fed the hungry, those who gave drink to
the thirsty, those who clothed the naked, those who cared
for the sick, those who spread the gospel visited those
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in prison will be rewarded as if they had done
those very things for Jesus Christ himself. And one other point,
we develop an eternal perspective by withdrawing from the invasive
sounds of the world, so that we can hear the
sounds of another place, indeed, another voice. And that's what
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Luke tells us about Jesus Christ. He often withdrew to
lonely places and prayed. Unlike the religious leaders of his day,
he didn't pray to be seen by men. He prayed
because he treasured fellowship with his father. So if you
wish to help that kind of perspective of a perspective
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that leads to abundant living both now and for all eternity,
go into your room, close the door, pray to your
father who's unseen. Then, says Jesus, your father, who sees
what has done in secret, will reward you living with
eternity in mind. A lot of you hanging on will
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go right to the phone lines. We'll talk first to
James listing in Saint Louis, Missouri. Hi, James, Hig.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
I will listen to you quite a bit, and I
certainly think that you're doing a great service to Christ Kingdom.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
I wanted to ask you about a caller who had
discussed the idea that Adam was created with apparent age,
and then suggested that the possibility that perhaps God created
that way and the theory that God might have created
that way in respect other things that appeared older, And
you answered him by saying that if that were true,
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that wouldn't be falsifiable. And I sort of wanted you
to explain that to me. I don't really see how
that works exactly.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Okay, Yeah, well, let me see if I can cash
that out for you a little bit. First of all,
the Bible doesn't really answer the age question. I think
we have to underscore that in any kind of a
conversation in this direction. Some say that Adam was created
with the appearance of age, but in reality we just
don't know. Was Adam created with callouses on his feet?
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Did he have a belly button? Was he fashioned replete
with childhood memories? One would think not. But the Bible
simply doesn't tell us. And the notion that God created
his handiwork with the appearance of age is as I
said in that previous broadcast, it's logically unfalsifiable. For example,
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how can you falsify the notion that you were created
five seconds ago and that your recollection of the show
that you talked about was not just an implanted memory.
That's what I mean by saying it.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
I don't understand is what you mean by how can
I falsify that? I can prove that by witnesses, which
is the way we prove many things. I mean, I
can prove it because I've actually been here through the time,
and yes, those might be false, but the hundreds of
other people who've also observed my forty four years instead
of five seconds, also prove it.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Yeah, but that can all be part of an implanted memory,
is my point. And I think that if you go
beyond that, let's look at an astronomical event. A classic
example would be super nova in nineteen eighty seven. A
there you have, and I think this is instructive, particularly
in light of the past coming you just made. You
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have an identifiable before and after. Prior to nineteen eighty seven,
the super nova was an ordinary star in a distant galaxy.
It was one hundred and sixty eight thousand light years away.
But then on February twenty third, nineteen eighty seven, the
star explodes and becomes a supernova. In other words, what
I'm saying is, one hundred and sixty eight thousand years ago,
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the star exploded, and in nineteen eighty seven, the light
of that event finally reaches Earth. Unless, of course, God
created the universe six thousand years ago, then what would
you have, Well, then the supernova would be like a
documentary film of an event that never really took place
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in the first place.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Well that one you used that one with the caller
the other day too, And I'm not sure what that
one kind of distracts me from the idea though, that
when you talked about whether Adam was definitely old or not, well,
Adam was created old enough to observe the animals to name.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Them, you know, I was simply saying, yeah, But that's
not what I'm saying. Okay, what I'm saying is something else.
First of all, how do you know that he was
an adult? You don't know that from the biblical tech.
I would come to the same conclusion that you just did.
But the appearance of age is a different question, and
that's what I addressed. There are people that say Adam
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was created with the appearance of age, but I'm saying
the Bible doesn't say that. We don't know. Do you
think that he was created with callouses on his feet?
The Bible doesn't tell us.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
He can't know whether the hey callouses on his feet,
but he was at least old enough to pick the
animals and do certain things that he certainly didn't come
on to earth as an infant, and that is by
the text.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Well, first of all, you don't know. The Bible doesn't
fill in all of the details. It simply doesn't give
us all of the chronology. All of the detail we
don't have it. The Bible deals in generalities in Genesis
which do not fill in specific details, because, for example,
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do you know all of the progeny of Adam and Eve.
Don't In Genesis chapter four we're told about Cain and Abel,
and Genesis chapter five we're told about Seth. But the
implication of the scripture is that there are many other
kids that Adam and Eve had as well, and therefore
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Cain asked to have some kind of protection when he
went to the land of Nod. So the Bible doesn't
fill in all the details for us. But the one
thing we do know is that the appearance of age
has some attendant liabilities, both textually and scientifically, and I
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think that we have to take those things critically. We
have to take them seriously, and that's why I mentioned
the supernova event. When we see things in the world,
we don't think that they're mere deception. We don't think
that it's like a documentary film of something that never
really took place in the first place. Rather, we think
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that we can see God's impromater on the universe that
he has made, and there's a way in which we
can figure things out, and if that were not the case,
science would never have developed as it has. Science developed
because of a Christian worldview. It didn't developed because of
a secular worldview. Augustine believed that God left markings that
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God is consistent. Aristotle, though the gods wor capricious, had
a completely different view, believed in an eternal universe. Augustine
didn't think that way. He thought that God works in
an organized, systematized fashion, so that you can actually know
things about the universe. You can figure things out. But
if things aren't illusion or things aren't as they appear
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they're otherwise, it's very difficult to figure those things out. Now. Look,
I'm a fellow sojourner with you in the quest for knowledge.
I want to be app absolutely certain that I don't
commit scriptural heresy, which is to say, I want to
be absolutely certain that I take the text seriously, that
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I don't read things into the text that the text
isn't designed to say. But I want to be sure
that I do the same thing with God's Book of
Nature as well, that I don't create scientific heresy either.
If I were to tell you today that I believe
in geocentrism. You probably wouldn't take me seriously, and yet
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that was a dominant view for a long period of time.
The fact of the matter is, as we explore the
universe that God created, we have knowledge that does not
allow us to misread the Biblical text and think somehow
or other that the Earth is fixed at the center
of the universe that the sun revolves around it. We
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know better because God has given us the ability to
discover things about the universe, and again that necessitates that
we do not commit scriptural heresy or scientific carecy. I'm
going to leave it at that. We'll be right back
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Speaker 2 (15:09):
Thank you very much, Randy, and let's maect the phone lines.
We'll talk next to Jeff. Hi.
Speaker 5 (15:14):
Jeff, I do I just recently finish read a book
called The Eye to Eye and it talks about how
within forty eight hours of the United States or anybody
going to get to Israel as far as you know,
the dividing of Israel, that there's been a natural disaster.
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And I'm just wondering, you know what, what's your take
on the fact that you know, God's punching people for
going against Israel.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Well, it's nonsense. The reality is that we are to
be for justice. If the United States of America does
something that's an abomination, we don't support that abomination. We
support truth, we support righteousness, we support justice as members
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of the Kingdom, so we're not Zionists. We may be
very glad that Israel exists, we may be very glad
that it's a geopolitical power, but that does not mean
that we lock steps support everything that Israel does. We
support Israel when it acts in righteousness. We do not
support Israel when it acts in unrighteousness. So I think
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the problem here is that people oftentimes do not recognize
that we are members of a different kingdom. And like Abraham,
who was anything but a Zionist, or like Isaac and Jacob,
we must view living in the Promised Land in the
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same way that a stranger would view living in a
foreign country. Why because, as the writer of Hebrews makes plain,
Abraham was looking forward to a city with foundations who's
architect and builders God. So Abraham looked beyond binding borders
and boundaries to a day in which the meek would
inherit the earth. Well, I think there's another principle here
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that we ought to really capitalize on, to recognize clearly
from a Biblical perspective, and that is that when the
Lord came, he is the substance that replaces the shadow.
When the teacher came, the temple no longer had significance.
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When Jesus came, Jerusalem did not have significance because Jesus
is the substance. Now, I'm not saying it's not important
in any sense in a historical sense. I'm just saying
that we must never go back to types and shadows
when the fulfillment to those types and shadows has come.
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And this is something that is laid out for us
very clearly in the Word of God. So we know
that Jesus was not a Zionist, and he certainly didn't
tell his disciples to be Zionists. He told them to
leave Jerusalem and never think about returning. Go to the
ends of the earth with the Gospel. And ultimately, the
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seed of Abraham is the seed of Abraham, not by
some ethnic relationship, but through Jesus Christ. If you are
in Jesus Christ, you are the seed of Abraham and
an air according to the promise. Again, it's not your
genealogy that counts. It's your relationship to Yahweh, the God
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of Israel, through Jesus Christ, that ultimately counts. I've written
about this in a lot of detail in a book
called The Apocalypse cod because there are a lot of
people today who are making those very statements. And if
you look at the corpus of their comments as well
as what they've written, you'll find that they simply don't
know how to read the Bible for all it's worth,
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and they are on dangerous ground because they are trampling
upon the sacred blood of Gajesus Christ, not counting righteously
the fact that the substance has fulfilled the shadow. If
we were to go back to temple priests and sacrifice
or even think about that, that is tantamount to trampling
upon the sacred blood of Jesus Christ. We have a
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new covenant, this do in remembrance of me. We're not
to slaughter animals. We're not to think about building another temple.
What we're told to do is take communion in remembrance
of Jesus Christ, who has come, who has walked on
this earth, who has sacrificed. And therefore we don't need
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to go back to endless sacrifices. One needs only read
Hebrews for that to become crystal clear. Let's go back
to the phone lines. We'll talk next to Joshua listening
to Charlotte, North Carolina. Hi, Joshua, Hey, hey, good, thank you.
Speaker 6 (19:52):
My question is that I heard your show last time
and you were saying, like, basically like God is not
willing to heal everybody. So I just wanted to know
if what I'm telling you is true? Do you believe
that God is not willing to heal everybody?
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Well, what I believe is that in this world you'll
have tuble but take heart, He's overcome the world. So
in this world, we're all going to die of our
last disease. The death rate is one per person. Every
one of us is going to make it. So we're
all going to get sick. Eventually, we're all going to die.
And what we look forward to in Christianity is not
perfect health. What we look forward to is a time
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in which we will be resurrected, and we will live
in a resurrected universe that no longer groans and travail.
In the meantime we suffer the maladies of life. Can
God miraculously heal someone? Of course, again, He's God. Does
healing always take place? No, Like I said, we die
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of our last disease every single time, one hundred percent
of the time, and the only exception of that is
going to be when Jesus Christ returns. If you're living,
then you're going to in effect go through death because
you're going to go through a metamorphosis because the mortal
will become immortal. You'll be changed in a moment, in
the twinkling of an eye.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
No, Hank.
Speaker 6 (21:16):
Like, if someone is sick, they they have cancer, right yeah,
and they go to God and they're like, God, take
this cancer away from me or something. Are you saying
God won't heal that person.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
I'm saying that you would always pray nevertheless, not my will,
but Thy will be done.
Speaker 6 (21:35):
You saying God wants people to be sick, his children
to be sick.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
What I'm saying is we live in a cursed creation
and Christianity doesn't give us a peaceful way to come
to terms with the maladies of life. It gives us
something far greater to overcome them through the resurrection for
God's sovereign purposes. Some people are not healed. Johnny Erickson Tada,
who is a hero of the faith, to me, is
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yet a quadriplegic. Could God healer yes, has he healed her? No,
but her wheelchair has become her crown because out of
a life spent in that wheelchair, she has blessed millions
out of the overflow of time spent with the Lord.
So the plain evidence is God does not heal everyone
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of cancer. People die. You have to understand what I
just said. The death rate is one per person. You're
gonna make it. I'm gonna make it. That means we're
gonna die of our last disease. The Biblical paradigm is
that we look forward to resurrection. In the meantime, we
will groan and travail, just like the universe groans intervail.
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Do you think that God could get rid of all
the weeds and thistles immediately? Sure? Could he get rid
of all the evil immediately? Of course he could, But
if he did, that would be the termination of time.
God is yet gracious allowing the wheat and the tears
to grow up in a troubled world, because one day
he'll separate them. That is in the new Heaven and
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the New Earth, wherein dwells righteousness. If you want more information,
I've laid this out in as much detail, answering all
the Biblical questions in a book called Christianity and Crisis
twenty first century, available through the Ministry of the Christian Research.
And so back to the phone lines. We'll talk next
to Andy listening in Austin, Minnesota. Hi.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
Andy, Hi, and how are you.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
I'm doing well. How are you?
Speaker 6 (23:31):
I'm doing good. Thanks, thank you for taking my call.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
You got it. Thank you for the opportunity.
Speaker 6 (23:36):
What Bible version do you recommend that I should be studying?
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Yeah, I mean, I think it's really important for us
if you're studying the Bible, studying to show yourself approved
to God, a workman who does not need to blush
with embarrassment correctly handling the Word of truth. As two
Timothy chapter two tells us, in examining scripture, it's typically
best to start with one good translation, then stick with it.
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That will provide you with consistency as well as help
you in the process of memorizing the Bible. But in
studying the Bible, it's best to use a number of
good Bible translations. So there are a lot of great
translations that are available today, but I use a variety
in studying the Bible. For example, if I'm memorizing proverbs,
I use the NESB just because that's more of a
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formal equivalency, more of a word for word translation. If
I'm memorizing, let's say, the Sermon on the Mount, I'll
memorize the NIV because it's more of a thought for
thought translation and it communicates better.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
So what do you think about the new King James version.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
I think the New King James version is a great translation.
It preserves the majesty of Elizabethan English. At the same
time it is making sure that it updates a lot
of what you find in the King James version because
language has undergone a transition over time, and as a
the result of that, what you find in the King
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James version is ununderstandable to modern years. For example, when
Paul says, from thence we fetched a compass, what does
that mean? Compasses weren't even used for navigational purposes at
the time Paul was writing. Well, it actually means we
proceeded in a circular course. The newer translations take account
of that. Second, there's a progress in our knowledge and
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understanding of the original Biblical languages that are accounted for,
and the New King James version not accounted for in
the old King James version, and then we have earlier
and better manuscripts, and therefore there are glosses and errors minor,
although they are that you find in the King James
version that have been corrected in the new King James version.
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So I think the New King James version is just fantastic.
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