January 27, 2026 • 28 mins
On today’s Bible Answer Man broadcast (01/27/26), Hank addresses the Book of Jonah and whether the prophet was actually swallowed by a whale.
Hank also answers the following questions:
Will the Twelve Tribes have bearing on the end times? Were they annihilated? Bob - Fresno, CA (4:24)
Can you address John Hagee’s teaching on the camel going through the eye of the needle? Jason - Wild Wood, TX (7:24)
Where did all the different races come from? Travis - MI (15:11)
Is it okay to work on Sundays to help pay off debt? John - Greenville, SC (19:34)
A church elder and member live together, and I am concerned that they are in a homosexual relationship. How should I address this? Mike - Yorkville, TN (23:56)
Hank also answers the following questions:
Will the Twelve Tribes have bearing on the end times? Were they annihilated? Bob - Fresno, CA (4:24)
Can you address John Hagee’s teaching on the camel going through the eye of the needle? Jason - Wild Wood, TX (7:24)
Where did all the different races come from? Travis - MI (15:11)
Is it okay to work on Sundays to help pay off debt? John - Greenville, SC (19:34)
A church elder and member live together, and I am concerned that they are in a homosexual relationship. How should I address this? Mike - Yorkville, TN (23:56)
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Welcome to the Bible answer Man broadcast with your host,
Hank Hannigraph. The Bible answer Man is the radio ministry
of the Christian Research Institute designed to equip believers to
defend their faith and become true disciples of the Lord
Jesus Christ, because life and truth matter. Our phone number
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program was pre recorded, and now to begin today's broadcast,
here's Hank Canagraph.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Thank very much for Randy. Before we go to our callers,
want to spend just a moment talking about Jonah and
the whale answer. The basic question was Jonah swallowed by
a whale? I remember Bill Maher talking about this is
that he used to believe in a man being swallowed
by a whale, and then he graduated the sixth grade.
How are we to think about these things? The Book
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of Jonah contains this story a prophet named Jonah who
was preserved three days in three nights in the belly
of a large fish. And despite skepticism which has led
many to allegorize this fish story, there are good reasons
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to interpret it as an actual historical account, the first
of which is this, The details and the descriptions in
the narrative defy allergorization. The Book of Jonah is written
in the genre or in the form of the historical narrative.
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The brief mention of the fish does not deter literarily
from the descriptions of Jonah's journey to Jappa, his payment
of the fare, his conversations with the sailors during the storm,
and then his eventual trip to Nineveh. The Christian worldview
presupposes the miraculous. That's what we start with. The universe
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itself is an effect, and that effect presupposes a cause
that's equal to or greater than itself. So just as
the uncaused first cause created the universe, so the uncaused
first cause is capable of supernaturally intervening or sticking his
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finger in the universe that he has created. Because God
created the universe ex nihilo, or out of nothing, Preserving
Jonah in the belly of a fish poses no problem
whatsoever for a biblical worldview. When we hear of a
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miraculous account of that magnitude, I think it's pretty good
for us to go out and seek a second opinion.
And what's great about the story of Jonah corroboration is
provided by no less a second opinion or an authority
than Jesus Christ. Our Lord, not only referred to Jonah's
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preservation for three days and three nights in the belly
of a fish and talked about it as a miracle,
but he used it as the basis for prophesying that
he too would be preserved for three days and three
nights in the heart of the earth. As such, Jonah's
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marine rescue is a type of Jesus's miraculous resurrection. So
again we have coroboration from Jesus Christ. He's the one
who spoke in the universe, left into existence, so he
was at the embryonic state of the greatest miracle of all.
His opinion counts more more than that of skeptics, who
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in modern day society want to explain everything through purely
natural phenomenon. I think if you have a truly open mind,
you allow for both natural as well as supernatural explanations
for that which you encounter as you traverse this world. Well,
many of you are hanging on. We'll go right to
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the phone calls. First up is Bob he's listening in Fresno, California. Hi, Bob, Hey,
how you doing good? Her are you?
Speaker 3 (04:33):
And my question is that often when you're discussing eschatology,
you've mentioned that the twelve tribes will have no bearing
on the end times because the twelve tribes have essentially
been annihilated.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Correctly, Well, I'm not saying the twelve tribes have been
essentially annihilated. I'm not saying that there's no warrant for
any genealogical extrapolation. But my point has always been the
same point, and that is true. Israel isn't dependent on
a genealogy, but rather it is dependent on a relationship
to Yahweh, the God of Israel. So if you look
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at the Exodus, the Israelites coming out of Egypt, it
was not just Jews that came out of Egypt. It
was also Egyptians that came with them out of Egypt.
And those Egyptians were not counted as second class citizens.
They were counted as part of true Israel. They were
brought into all the types and shadows pointing ultimately to
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Jesus Christ. And you see that throughout the Old Testament.
Rahab Ruth, you're read it an ester, so it is
a continuous theme. Now, what I have said is that
you know, as we all know from a historical perspective,
when the Assyrians conquered the Northern Kingdom, ten of the
twelve tribes virtually lost their identity, the reason being that
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many of them were slaughtered, many of them were exiled,
and those that remained in the land married with people
that repopulated the land, and they became the Samaritans talked about,
you know, in the New Testament. And therefore, if you
look at what Paul is doing in Acts chapter twenty six,
is he's using an idiomatic expression when he talks about
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the promise of our twelve tribes. He's talking about the
descendants of Israel or the descendants of Jacob. But it's
an idiomatic expression that ultimately does refer to the true
people of God. So the overarching point is God is
not a racist. He doesn't deal with people on the
basis of race. Rather, he deals with people on the
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basis of their relationship with Yahweh, the God of Israel.
I've explicated this many times on the radio, also in
my book The Apocalypse Code. Look, God's not a real
estate broker. He is not a racist, and certainly those
who are fixated on those things are missing the point.
And Paul points that out in no uncertain terms in
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Galatians chapter four. If you're still looking to the old Jerusalem,
which was renamed not the Holy City but the Harlot
City in the Bible itself, then you're missing the point.
You're still in bondage like Hagar was. We look to
the Jerusalem who is above, She is free, and she
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is our mother, says Paul. Back to the phone lines,
we'll talk to Jason next Wildwood, Texas side Jason, Hi.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
Hang the question I had had to deal with the
camel to the eye of the needle, and I heard
this story from John hage He said that is a
needle was a city, and to be able to bring
your camel into the is of needle, you would have
to unpack everything and then bring it through on its knee.
Does that hold true?
Speaker 2 (07:47):
No, it's absolute nonsense. And this is typical with John Hagey,
who is a Christian Zionist who constantly perverts the Word
of God and in this case is just using an
acronis thinking he is rereading the text from a medieval perspective,
because the truth of the matter is this notion of
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an eye of a needle being a place where a
camel would stoop and go through a wall, through a
camel's gate, as it were, is something that was actually
concocted in medieval times. It was not something that came
about at the time that Jesus Christ was actually using
that particular metaphor. So the point here is very clear,
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and that is that Jesus Christ is using a metaphor
that points how hard it is for someone with riches
to enter the Kingdom of God, because we can so
easily with riches become attached to the world as opposed
to being attached to the Savior.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
Okay, so it's not impossible for somebody to be wealthy
because he told me something, because it says that godliness
does not equal gain. But he also said, what would
it gain you to gain the whole world and lose
your soul? So the part about taking the mark of
the beast wouldn't be that part. You know that galius
does not equal gain. He correlated that to me.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Yeah, And of course a lot of this is free
supposition that's at fault as well. I mean, his whole
concept of the mark of the Beast is completely off base.
I've written about that in my book The Apocalypse Code.
But think about this guy. He says, for example, let
us put an end to this Christian chatter that all
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the Jews are lost and can't be in the will
of God until they convert to Christianity. So he takes
the onus of the Jewish community and places it squarely
on the Jewish christ And then he says this, if
Jesus refused, by his words or actions to claim to
be Messiah to the Jews, then how can the Jews
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be blamed for rejecting what was never offered. In fact,
I'll go a little bit further with this. He goes
so far as to say that the Jewish people wanted
Jesus to be their Messiah, but Jesus absolutely refused. So,
it says hegy, the Jews were not rejecting Jesus as Messiah.
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It was Jesus who was refusing to be Messiah to
the Jews. Now, anyone who has read through the Gospels
even once knows full well that Jesus emphatically contradicted that
kind of sentiment. Remember his emotionally charged words when he's
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leaving the temple. O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who killed the prophets,
You who stone those sent to you? How often I
have longed to gather your children together as a hen
gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were not willing.
My point in bringing this out is that when you
listen to a man like John Hagey, you better have
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discernment skills, the ability to discern between wheat and chap,
and heat and light, because he gives you a muddy
mixture of truth mixed with all kinds of egregious errors. Yeah, thanks, sir,
you get it. We'll be right back with more of
your questions.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
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Speaker 2 (15:08):
Can I graph the very much rading. Let's go back
to the phone lines. Next up is Travis in Michigan.
Speaker 5 (15:13):
Hi, Travis, Hello, thank you for taking my call pleasure.
I appreciate all that you do. I've been trying to
walk with Christ and read his words. But there's one
problem that I've never really got an answer for, and
it concerns like the different races and languages. I mean,
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I guess, as an example, is all the different breeds
of horses or dogs. They're just like people. Why aren't
we all fiddle Eastern or Asian or black white? You
know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Is there any scriptures that well, there's no conclusive science
on this, and there certainly are divergent opinions about this,
even among Christians. But I think that a good theological
deduction that can be made from scripture is that you
have a separation of people due to God's intervention at
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the Tower of Babbel that we see in Genesis chapter eleven,
and that caused the different genetic distinctions that you find
within people. Geneticists sometimes call this the founder principle. Groups
are isolated because the confusion of their languages, and therefore
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they only drew upon a fraction of the total gene pool.
Now if you go to the evolutionary community, you'll find
a different idea. Darwinian evolutionists believe that some races are
more advanced than other races. Some races are headed for
extinction because only the strong survive. Thomas Huxley said that
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no rational man cognizant of the facts, believes that the
average negro is the equal, still less the superior of
the white man. It is simply incredible to think, he said,
that he would be able to compete successfully with his
bigger brain smaller jud rival in a contest which is
to be carried on by thoughts and not by bites.
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That's a racist kind of an idea. The Bible, however,
doesn't deal with race in that sense. It talks about
people of every tongue and tribe and language and nation,
so We're just people. We have genetic distinctions. Some have
brown eyes, some have blue eyes, some have black hair,
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some have blonde hair, different amounts of melatonin in the skin,
and so forth. So there are distinctions in that sense,
but we're just all people at the end of.
Speaker 5 (17:41):
The day, right right, And I'm a firm believer that
my brothers and sisters, he could be purple, pink, blue, whatever.
If you believe in Jesus Christ, you're my brother, you
know what I mean. So I just trying maybe to
witness to some people that I know that kind of
throw that up from the more evolutionary theory, I guess
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you'd say.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Well, evolutionists don't have a good answer this question. And
the evolutionists that buy into the Darwinian theory, they have
a racist paradigm that they have to contend with because
in the Darwinian evolutionary paradigm, it is as needful that
the unfit die is that the fittest survived, because if
the unfit survived for a prolonged period of time, they
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would infect the fit with their less fit genes and
evolution would be possible. So evolutionists don't have a good
answer for this number. One, and the Darwinian evolutionists have
a racist dilemma on their hands. Christians don't. Christians don't
talk so much about race only in the sense of
running the race, but they talk about people at the
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foot of the cross. They have complete ontological equality. Therefore
there's no distinction between Jew or Greek. Paul says, the
same is true from the standpoint of your sex. There's
no distinction between male or female because we are ontologically,
by nature or essence equal at the foot of the cross.
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We are equal in a biblical Christian worldview. So there's
no such thing as racial distinctions such as the struggle
for survival, where you have the struggle of survival of
the fittest and the struggle for life. We don't have
that kind of an idea a Christian worldview.
Speaker 5 (19:25):
I gotcha. Thank you so much. You've answered more than
you know. Thank you, God, bless you.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
You got a Travis, thank you so much for your call.
When we go back to the phone lines, talk to
John listening on the web in Greenville, South Carolina. Hi, John,
well Hank, thanks for.
Speaker 6 (19:39):
Taking my call. Hey, my question. I am one who's
got a bit of debt and as Dave Ramsey would say,
I've got an income crisis and I'm paying as much
as I can. However, the other people have given me advice.
They're saying, well, I should work on Sundays, I shouldn't
buy tracks because I'm very weigh the Master and their materials,
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and I don't know if I can really can't I
really be someone that's going to compromise working on Sundays,
the Lord's Day, our compromise evangelism. Thus, for the efforts
of paying off debts, I mean, paying off debts is very,
very important. Yeah, no doubt about that. I'm not saying
to go gooder to spend my money and get into debt.
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But unfortunately, in my situation, I can only pay so
much give him my income, and given my situation, I
gotta I take the highest priority obviously is the Lord
and doing evangelism. And what would you say abou this situation.
I realized the evangelical church, there's a lot of compromisers
in the church, and you know, it's really hard to
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really get any kind of good discernment from from a
lot of people I talked too.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Well, here's the issue once we get into sin, which
is to say, once we've overextended ourselves. Now we have
to find a way to get out of that. And
it's not always a neat little formula. Principles that apply.
The principles are that we want to lean upon the
arm of God and not upon the arm of flesh.
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We don't want to make our own way when God
will make a way for us. Abraham made that mistake.
He had a child, He forced the issue with one
of his servants, and as a result of that, he
created chaos. God had a plan, but Abraham superseded the plan.
He jumped the gun. He didn't trust. And I think
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trust is a very important part of the equation. But
there's another thing they have to recognize as well. So
is being a witness to the world. What kind of
a witness is it to the world where you don't
pay your debts or don't pay your debts on time.
So you've got to look at the fact that you
got yourself into a conundrum, and now it doesn't always
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have a clean way of getting back out of that conundrum.
You know, sin has its consequences, and those consequences follow
inexorably like night follows day. So I don't I don't
want to give you specific advice, but I do want
to say this that if you're in a healthy, well
balanced church, you can talk to your pastor, you can
talk to coworkers in a healthy, well balanced church, and
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as a result of your discussions, you can together come
up with a plan so that you can extract yourself
from a difficult situation that you got yourself into. And
sometimes it's not always laid out in terms of a
floodlight blazed down the path either. Sometimes you just got
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to take one step after another, making certain that each
step is a step within the bounds of Christian principle.
But I don't want to make a hard and fast
rule for you. I've never met you, I don't know
all of the circumstances, and therefore I can only give
you principles. But I don't think that you want to
be legalistically bound to the solution. You got into the
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problem as a result of violating principles. I think the
real issue is extract yourself while you are absorbing the principles.
In the process, you'll not only have a testimony to
the world, but you'll gain the freedom of knowing that
trusting in God is by far the better valuation of things.
Speaker 6 (23:17):
Well, I'm able to pay on my death, Hank, I
just can't pay them off because, as Dave Bramsy would say, again,
I've got an income crisis. I only make so much
money a year, and my death is so like three
times my income. And I'm able to pay on the death,
So no doubt about that. I just can't wipe them
out with my incoming. I mean, I can try talking
to my church. I'm not saying they'll don't do anything,
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but I don't know what they can do here. I
might even get joyed if I even mentioned my dad's there,
which I'm kind of hasping to do in the first
you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Yeah, again, I can only deal with the issue in
terms of principle, and I've done my best shot at
doing that.
Speaker 6 (23:53):
Thank you so much, Hank, appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Hey, you got it, my friend. I appreciate your call.
Welcome back to the phone lines. We'll talk next to
Mike Yorkville Tennis See, Hi, Mike.
Speaker 7 (24:01):
Thank you so much, mister Hank, and I cannot call
I love yourself. Thank you, blessed you. And you mentioned
I had a question about church leadership. Homosexuality. One of
odors in our church and another woman in the church
live together, and I don't pull the problem to me,
but I wondered about homosexuality. I guess there being the
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possibility and how to approach it with her in church leadership. Bro,
I think it's the thing as.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
I where you point out, you know, just yeah, well,
you don't want to be under church leadership that is
unconcerned with the principles of God. You want to be
in a church where people are concerned with the principles
of God. So you recognize that if someone is living
outside the perimeters that God sets forth for them to
live within, and they're doing it with premeditation and forethought,
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they're really not believers. So you recognize that they're not
people you want to get your authority from, but rather
people that you want to reach out to, which is
to say that whether someone is homosexual or heterosexual, or
a garden variety pagan, or whatever state they're in, you,
as an ambassador for Christ, want to be available to
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use the deviations that they have theologically and experientially as
springboards or opportunities to share the truth and life and
love that only Jesus Christ can bring in full to
the human heart, so they become those that you want
to reach out to with the love of Christ, rather
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than someone that you want to get the teachings of
Christ from because they're obviously either not aware of the
teachings of Christ or living in defiance of the teachings
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find out what the Bible really says about the end
times and why it matters today. Hank Canagraph argues that
the key to understanding the Last Book of the Bible
(27:25):
is the other sixty five books of the Bible, not
current events or recent history. The Apocalypse Code offers sane
answers to some very controversial questions, such as what does
it mean to take the Book of Revelation literally? Who
are the Antichrist and the Great Horror of Babylon? And
what is the real meaning of six hundred and sixty six?
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Order The Apocalypse Code by Hank Cantigraph today, available in softcover,
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Welcome to the Bible answer Man broadcast with your host,
Hank Hannigraph. The Bible answer Man is the radio ministry
of the Christian Research Institute designed to equip believers to
defend their faith and become true disciples of the Lord
Jesus Christ, because life and truth matter. Our phone number
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us on the internet at equip dot org. The following
program was pre recorded, and now to begin today's broadcast,
here's Hank Canagraph.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Thank very much for Randy. Before we go to our callers,
want to spend just a moment talking about Jonah and
the whale answer. The basic question was Jonah swallowed by
a whale? I remember Bill Maher talking about this is
that he used to believe in a man being swallowed
by a whale, and then he graduated the sixth grade.
How are we to think about these things? The Book
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of Jonah contains this story a prophet named Jonah who
was preserved three days in three nights in the belly
of a large fish. And despite skepticism which has led
many to allegorize this fish story, there are good reasons
(01:26):
to interpret it as an actual historical account, the first
of which is this, The details and the descriptions in
the narrative defy allergorization. The Book of Jonah is written
in the genre or in the form of the historical narrative.
(01:48):
The brief mention of the fish does not deter literarily
from the descriptions of Jonah's journey to Jappa, his payment
of the fare, his conversations with the sailors during the storm,
and then his eventual trip to Nineveh. The Christian worldview
presupposes the miraculous. That's what we start with. The universe
(02:12):
itself is an effect, and that effect presupposes a cause
that's equal to or greater than itself. So just as
the uncaused first cause created the universe, so the uncaused
first cause is capable of supernaturally intervening or sticking his
(02:34):
finger in the universe that he has created. Because God
created the universe ex nihilo, or out of nothing, Preserving
Jonah in the belly of a fish poses no problem
whatsoever for a biblical worldview. When we hear of a
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miraculous account of that magnitude, I think it's pretty good
for us to go out and seek a second opinion.
And what's great about the story of Jonah corroboration is
provided by no less a second opinion or an authority
than Jesus Christ. Our Lord, not only referred to Jonah's
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preservation for three days and three nights in the belly
of a fish and talked about it as a miracle,
but he used it as the basis for prophesying that
he too would be preserved for three days and three
nights in the heart of the earth. As such, Jonah's
(03:39):
marine rescue is a type of Jesus's miraculous resurrection. So
again we have coroboration from Jesus Christ. He's the one
who spoke in the universe, left into existence, so he
was at the embryonic state of the greatest miracle of all.
His opinion counts more more than that of skeptics, who
(04:02):
in modern day society want to explain everything through purely
natural phenomenon. I think if you have a truly open mind,
you allow for both natural as well as supernatural explanations
for that which you encounter as you traverse this world. Well,
many of you are hanging on. We'll go right to
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the phone calls. First up is Bob he's listening in Fresno, California. Hi, Bob, Hey,
how you doing good? Her are you?
Speaker 3 (04:33):
And my question is that often when you're discussing eschatology,
you've mentioned that the twelve tribes will have no bearing
on the end times because the twelve tribes have essentially
been annihilated.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Correctly, Well, I'm not saying the twelve tribes have been
essentially annihilated. I'm not saying that there's no warrant for
any genealogical extrapolation. But my point has always been the
same point, and that is true. Israel isn't dependent on
a genealogy, but rather it is dependent on a relationship
to Yahweh, the God of Israel. So if you look
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at the Exodus, the Israelites coming out of Egypt, it
was not just Jews that came out of Egypt. It
was also Egyptians that came with them out of Egypt.
And those Egyptians were not counted as second class citizens.
They were counted as part of true Israel. They were
brought into all the types and shadows pointing ultimately to
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Jesus Christ. And you see that throughout the Old Testament.
Rahab Ruth, you're read it an ester, so it is
a continuous theme. Now, what I have said is that
you know, as we all know from a historical perspective,
when the Assyrians conquered the Northern Kingdom, ten of the
twelve tribes virtually lost their identity, the reason being that
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many of them were slaughtered, many of them were exiled,
and those that remained in the land married with people
that repopulated the land, and they became the Samaritans talked about,
you know, in the New Testament. And therefore, if you
look at what Paul is doing in Acts chapter twenty six,
is he's using an idiomatic expression when he talks about
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the promise of our twelve tribes. He's talking about the
descendants of Israel or the descendants of Jacob. But it's
an idiomatic expression that ultimately does refer to the true
people of God. So the overarching point is God is
not a racist. He doesn't deal with people on the
basis of race. Rather, he deals with people on the
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basis of their relationship with Yahweh, the God of Israel.
I've explicated this many times on the radio, also in
my book The Apocalypse Code. Look, God's not a real
estate broker. He is not a racist, and certainly those
who are fixated on those things are missing the point.
And Paul points that out in no uncertain terms in
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Galatians chapter four. If you're still looking to the old Jerusalem,
which was renamed not the Holy City but the Harlot
City in the Bible itself, then you're missing the point.
You're still in bondage like Hagar was. We look to
the Jerusalem who is above, She is free, and she
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is our mother, says Paul. Back to the phone lines,
we'll talk to Jason next Wildwood, Texas side Jason, Hi.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
Hang the question I had had to deal with the
camel to the eye of the needle, and I heard
this story from John hage He said that is a
needle was a city, and to be able to bring
your camel into the is of needle, you would have
to unpack everything and then bring it through on its knee.
Does that hold true?
Speaker 2 (07:47):
No, it's absolute nonsense. And this is typical with John Hagey,
who is a Christian Zionist who constantly perverts the Word
of God and in this case is just using an
acronis thinking he is rereading the text from a medieval perspective,
because the truth of the matter is this notion of
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an eye of a needle being a place where a
camel would stoop and go through a wall, through a
camel's gate, as it were, is something that was actually
concocted in medieval times. It was not something that came
about at the time that Jesus Christ was actually using
that particular metaphor. So the point here is very clear,
(08:29):
and that is that Jesus Christ is using a metaphor
that points how hard it is for someone with riches
to enter the Kingdom of God, because we can so
easily with riches become attached to the world as opposed
to being attached to the Savior.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
Okay, so it's not impossible for somebody to be wealthy
because he told me something, because it says that godliness
does not equal gain. But he also said, what would
it gain you to gain the whole world and lose
your soul? So the part about taking the mark of
the beast wouldn't be that part. You know that galius
does not equal gain. He correlated that to me.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Yeah, And of course a lot of this is free
supposition that's at fault as well. I mean, his whole
concept of the mark of the Beast is completely off base.
I've written about that in my book The Apocalypse Code.
But think about this guy. He says, for example, let
us put an end to this Christian chatter that all
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the Jews are lost and can't be in the will
of God until they convert to Christianity. So he takes
the onus of the Jewish community and places it squarely
on the Jewish christ And then he says this, if
Jesus refused, by his words or actions to claim to
be Messiah to the Jews, then how can the Jews
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be blamed for rejecting what was never offered. In fact,
I'll go a little bit further with this. He goes
so far as to say that the Jewish people wanted
Jesus to be their Messiah, but Jesus absolutely refused. So,
it says hegy, the Jews were not rejecting Jesus as Messiah.
(10:13):
It was Jesus who was refusing to be Messiah to
the Jews. Now, anyone who has read through the Gospels
even once knows full well that Jesus emphatically contradicted that
kind of sentiment. Remember his emotionally charged words when he's
(10:33):
leaving the temple. O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who killed the prophets,
You who stone those sent to you? How often I
have longed to gather your children together as a hen
gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were not willing.
My point in bringing this out is that when you
listen to a man like John Hagey, you better have
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discernment skills, the ability to discern between wheat and chap,
and heat and light, because he gives you a muddy
mixture of truth mixed with all kinds of egregious errors. Yeah, thanks, sir,
you get it. We'll be right back with more of
your questions.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
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Speaker 2 (15:08):
Can I graph the very much rading. Let's go back
to the phone lines. Next up is Travis in Michigan.
Speaker 5 (15:13):
Hi, Travis, Hello, thank you for taking my call pleasure.
I appreciate all that you do. I've been trying to
walk with Christ and read his words. But there's one
problem that I've never really got an answer for, and
it concerns like the different races and languages. I mean,
(15:34):
I guess, as an example, is all the different breeds
of horses or dogs. They're just like people. Why aren't
we all fiddle Eastern or Asian or black white? You
know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Is there any scriptures that well, there's no conclusive science
on this, and there certainly are divergent opinions about this,
even among Christians. But I think that a good theological
deduction that can be made from scripture is that you
have a separation of people due to God's intervention at
(16:07):
the Tower of Babbel that we see in Genesis chapter eleven,
and that caused the different genetic distinctions that you find
within people. Geneticists sometimes call this the founder principle. Groups
are isolated because the confusion of their languages, and therefore
(16:28):
they only drew upon a fraction of the total gene pool.
Now if you go to the evolutionary community, you'll find
a different idea. Darwinian evolutionists believe that some races are
more advanced than other races. Some races are headed for
extinction because only the strong survive. Thomas Huxley said that
(16:51):
no rational man cognizant of the facts, believes that the
average negro is the equal, still less the superior of
the white man. It is simply incredible to think, he said,
that he would be able to compete successfully with his
bigger brain smaller jud rival in a contest which is
to be carried on by thoughts and not by bites.
(17:12):
That's a racist kind of an idea. The Bible, however,
doesn't deal with race in that sense. It talks about
people of every tongue and tribe and language and nation,
so We're just people. We have genetic distinctions. Some have
brown eyes, some have blue eyes, some have black hair,
(17:32):
some have blonde hair, different amounts of melatonin in the skin,
and so forth. So there are distinctions in that sense,
but we're just all people at the end of.
Speaker 5 (17:41):
The day, right right, And I'm a firm believer that
my brothers and sisters, he could be purple, pink, blue, whatever.
If you believe in Jesus Christ, you're my brother, you
know what I mean. So I just trying maybe to
witness to some people that I know that kind of
throw that up from the more evolutionary theory, I guess
(18:02):
you'd say.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Well, evolutionists don't have a good answer this question. And
the evolutionists that buy into the Darwinian theory, they have
a racist paradigm that they have to contend with because
in the Darwinian evolutionary paradigm, it is as needful that
the unfit die is that the fittest survived, because if
the unfit survived for a prolonged period of time, they
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would infect the fit with their less fit genes and
evolution would be possible. So evolutionists don't have a good
answer for this number. One, and the Darwinian evolutionists have
a racist dilemma on their hands. Christians don't. Christians don't
talk so much about race only in the sense of
running the race, but they talk about people at the
(18:48):
foot of the cross. They have complete ontological equality. Therefore
there's no distinction between Jew or Greek. Paul says, the
same is true from the standpoint of your sex. There's
no distinction between male or female because we are ontologically,
by nature or essence equal at the foot of the cross.
(19:08):
We are equal in a biblical Christian worldview. So there's
no such thing as racial distinctions such as the struggle
for survival, where you have the struggle of survival of
the fittest and the struggle for life. We don't have
that kind of an idea a Christian worldview.
Speaker 5 (19:25):
I gotcha. Thank you so much. You've answered more than
you know. Thank you, God, bless you.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
You got a Travis, thank you so much for your call.
When we go back to the phone lines, talk to
John listening on the web in Greenville, South Carolina. Hi, John,
well Hank, thanks for.
Speaker 6 (19:39):
Taking my call. Hey, my question. I am one who's
got a bit of debt and as Dave Ramsey would say,
I've got an income crisis and I'm paying as much
as I can. However, the other people have given me advice.
They're saying, well, I should work on Sundays, I shouldn't
buy tracks because I'm very weigh the Master and their materials,
(20:03):
and I don't know if I can really can't I
really be someone that's going to compromise working on Sundays,
the Lord's Day, our compromise evangelism. Thus, for the efforts
of paying off debts, I mean, paying off debts is very,
very important. Yeah, no doubt about that. I'm not saying
to go gooder to spend my money and get into debt.
(20:23):
But unfortunately, in my situation, I can only pay so
much give him my income, and given my situation, I
gotta I take the highest priority obviously is the Lord
and doing evangelism. And what would you say abou this situation.
I realized the evangelical church, there's a lot of compromisers
in the church, and you know, it's really hard to
(20:43):
really get any kind of good discernment from from a
lot of people I talked too.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Well, here's the issue once we get into sin, which
is to say, once we've overextended ourselves. Now we have
to find a way to get out of that. And
it's not always a neat little formula. Principles that apply.
The principles are that we want to lean upon the
arm of God and not upon the arm of flesh.
(21:07):
We don't want to make our own way when God
will make a way for us. Abraham made that mistake.
He had a child, He forced the issue with one
of his servants, and as a result of that, he
created chaos. God had a plan, but Abraham superseded the plan.
He jumped the gun. He didn't trust. And I think
(21:28):
trust is a very important part of the equation. But
there's another thing they have to recognize as well. So
is being a witness to the world. What kind of
a witness is it to the world where you don't
pay your debts or don't pay your debts on time.
So you've got to look at the fact that you
got yourself into a conundrum, and now it doesn't always
(21:49):
have a clean way of getting back out of that conundrum.
You know, sin has its consequences, and those consequences follow
inexorably like night follows day. So I don't I don't
want to give you specific advice, but I do want
to say this that if you're in a healthy, well
balanced church, you can talk to your pastor, you can
talk to coworkers in a healthy, well balanced church, and
(22:13):
as a result of your discussions, you can together come
up with a plan so that you can extract yourself
from a difficult situation that you got yourself into. And
sometimes it's not always laid out in terms of a
floodlight blazed down the path either. Sometimes you just got
(22:34):
to take one step after another, making certain that each
step is a step within the bounds of Christian principle.
But I don't want to make a hard and fast
rule for you. I've never met you, I don't know
all of the circumstances, and therefore I can only give
you principles. But I don't think that you want to
be legalistically bound to the solution. You got into the
(22:55):
problem as a result of violating principles. I think the
real issue is extract yourself while you are absorbing the principles.
In the process, you'll not only have a testimony to
the world, but you'll gain the freedom of knowing that
trusting in God is by far the better valuation of things.
Speaker 6 (23:17):
Well, I'm able to pay on my death, Hank, I
just can't pay them off because, as Dave Bramsy would say, again,
I've got an income crisis. I only make so much
money a year, and my death is so like three
times my income. And I'm able to pay on the death,
So no doubt about that. I just can't wipe them
out with my incoming. I mean, I can try talking
to my church. I'm not saying they'll don't do anything,
(23:39):
but I don't know what they can do here. I
might even get joyed if I even mentioned my dad's there,
which I'm kind of hasping to do in the first
you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Yeah, again, I can only deal with the issue in
terms of principle, and I've done my best shot at
doing that.
Speaker 6 (23:53):
Thank you so much, Hank, appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Hey, you got it, my friend. I appreciate your call.
Welcome back to the phone lines. We'll talk next to
Mike Yorkville Tennis See, Hi, Mike.
Speaker 7 (24:01):
Thank you so much, mister Hank, and I cannot call
I love yourself. Thank you, blessed you. And you mentioned
I had a question about church leadership. Homosexuality. One of
odors in our church and another woman in the church
live together, and I don't pull the problem to me,
but I wondered about homosexuality. I guess there being the
(24:22):
possibility and how to approach it with her in church leadership. Bro,
I think it's the thing as.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
I where you point out, you know, just yeah, well,
you don't want to be under church leadership that is
unconcerned with the principles of God. You want to be
in a church where people are concerned with the principles
of God. So you recognize that if someone is living
outside the perimeters that God sets forth for them to
live within, and they're doing it with premeditation and forethought,
(24:50):
they're really not believers. So you recognize that they're not
people you want to get your authority from, but rather
people that you want to reach out to, which is
to say that whether someone is homosexual or heterosexual, or
a garden variety pagan, or whatever state they're in, you,
as an ambassador for Christ, want to be available to
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use the deviations that they have theologically and experientially as
springboards or opportunities to share the truth and life and
love that only Jesus Christ can bring in full to
the human heart, so they become those that you want
to reach out to with the love of Christ, rather
(25:34):
than someone that you want to get the teachings of
Christ from because they're obviously either not aware of the
teachings of Christ or living in defiance of the teachings
of Christ. We're at a time for this edition of
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answers to some very controversial questions, such as what does
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