October 24, 2025 • 28 mins
On today’s Bible Answer Man broadcast (10/24/25), Hank answers the following questions:
Did Jesus receive His human nature from Mary? Carolena - Wichita, KS (0:56)
What does the Bible say about interracial marriage? Lindsey - St. Louis, MO (3:10)
Where is the Garden of Eden right now? David - St. Louis, MO (5:56)
I saw a theory that the Israelites didn’t camp at Mount Sinai during the exodus, but instead went into Saudi Arabia. Have you heard this theory? Linda - Vancouver, BC (7:28)
When Mary conceived Jesus, did Jesus stop existing in heaven? Billy - Poplar Bluff, MO (15:11)
I recently became a Christian. How can I be used by God? I don’t think I have any gifts. Karen - Slater, MO (18:49)
Lot left Ur with Abraham. Was it disobedient for Lot to go with Abraham? Terri - MO (23:47)
Did Jesus receive His human nature from Mary? Carolena - Wichita, KS (0:56)
What does the Bible say about interracial marriage? Lindsey - St. Louis, MO (3:10)
Where is the Garden of Eden right now? David - St. Louis, MO (5:56)
I saw a theory that the Israelites didn’t camp at Mount Sinai during the exodus, but instead went into Saudi Arabia. Have you heard this theory? Linda - Vancouver, BC (7:28)
When Mary conceived Jesus, did Jesus stop existing in heaven? Billy - Poplar Bluff, MO (15:11)
I recently became a Christian. How can I be used by God? I don’t think I have any gifts. Karen - Slater, MO (18:49)
Lot left Ur with Abraham. Was it disobedient for Lot to go with Abraham? Terri - MO (23:47)
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
From Charlotte, North Carolina. You're listening to the Bible answer
Man broadcast with Hank Hanagraph, president of the Christian Research Institute.
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and now here's your host, Hank Hanagraph.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Thank you very much for Andy glad to hanging on.
Let's go right to the phone calls. First up is
Caroline in Wichita, Kansas. She's listening on the web. Hi Carolina,
Hi Hank.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Thanks for taking my call. I was born and brought
up in a good Christian family, and whenever I thought
about the incarnation of Jesus Christ and his humanity and
his sinlessness, I never really talk much about it because
I thought that it is a mystery that we probably
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will not understand. To the full extent here. But I
was discussing this with a friend and she said that
the way that Jesus Christ is sinless even though he
is fully human, is because he was born of Mary.
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But she was like a surrogate mother, meaning that he
did not share any of her dna. But he could
be entirely human, just like Adam is an entirely human
even though he was not born of a woman a sperm.
So I was wondering what your thoughts.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Are about that Mary was more than a surro good mother.
Orthodoskys as hell that Jesus derived his human nature from Mary.
I think to have a human nature does not necessitate
having a sin nature, and the first atom is a
perfect example of that. And again, the incarnation is a miracle.
As a Christian, we appeal to both natural explanations as
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well as supernatural explanations for what we encounter in the universe.
The universe itself is an effect that demands a supernatural explanation,
so the incarnation is a miracle. Mary did not conceive
in the same way that any other woman conceived. The
birth was the same, and Jesus was born in the
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same way, but not conceived in the same way. So
this is a miracle as God taking on human flesh.
It's a miracle that's in conceald apart from a supernatural explanation.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Okay, okay, thank you so much for you answer.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
I appreciate that you got it.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Thank you so much for your question. I want to
go back to the phone lines. Talk next to David
and Saint Louis Missouri. Hi, David, Hey Hank, this.
Speaker 5 (03:17):
Is Lindsay, his wife. We actually had two quick questions
for you. Yes, my question is we are an interracial couple.
I am white and he is African American. I've kind
of been dealing with, you know, some of my family
members are saying that God frowns upon that, and they're
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saying it's not right, and we're just kind of wanting
to know what you think about it.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Well, it's just a horrible notion that it's not right.
You're both human beings. Now you have different genetic proclivities,
but your human beings, and there's no hierarchy of races.
In fact, race is not a Christian concept except to
the race. So while you have a different genetic proclivities,
you're a human being and to be married as human
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beings because you're yoked together in the bonds of fellowship
in Christ, therefore equally yoked because of your relationship to
Christ is great. You should celebrate it. And anyone that
tells you that you should marry someone with different genetic
proclivities is simply inconsistent with a biblical worldview, right.
Speaker 5 (04:30):
I've even had a doctor tell my father, well, you know,
she the black race. They they are more susceptible to
certain illnesses and it's just a mess.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Well that may be, I mean, it may be that
that certain genetic makeups are more susceptible to certain things
than others. I mean, if you have a lot of
pigmentation in your skin, you're probably not as susceptible to
getting cancer. I don't know, it's possible. I mean, I'm
I'm talking about melanoma. I'm not a doctor, so I
don't know that for certain. But I know one thing
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is I'll burn a lot faster than your husband would
because I have fairst skin. I was born in Holland,
so I have to watch the sun very very carefully
and make sure that I've got good suntan lotion on
to protect myself. But that's a completely different issue. You
are equal at the foot of the cross. You are
human beings. Enjoy your love. Anyone that says that somehow
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one person with one part of the gean pool another
person with another part of the gen pool can't be
married doesn't know anything about a Christian worldview.
Speaker 5 (05:38):
Right. Well, Hank, I really appreciate you answer my question,
and you have cleared up a lot for me internally.
We listen to you every night and I really appreciate it.
And if you have enough time, I think he has
a quick question.
Speaker 6 (05:52):
Okay, God bless you.
Speaker 5 (05:53):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
God bless you as well. Hey, David, your question, my.
Speaker 5 (05:58):
Question is where is the Garden of Eden right now?
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Well, the Garden of Eden doesn't exist right now. It
will exist again, and that will be when Jesus Christ returns.
The idea of the garden of Eden was God walking
with men in the cool of the day. No death,
no mourning, no disease, no destruction, no decay, because they
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are in a perfect paradise that God creates for them
in this world. They are secure in that paradise until
they violate the test of God and fall for the
tempt of the devil and then they're thrown out into
a world that is rife with destruction and decay and
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disease and death, and they experience alienation from God. But
the rest of the Bible becomes an unfolding plan of
redemption that culminates in a new heaven and a new
Earth wherein dwells righteousness, and that is Eden restored. So
Eden once again will be, and it will be this
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universe restored to what it was before sin entered the world.
That's what we look forward to.
Speaker 5 (07:23):
Okay, thank you, Hank.
Speaker 7 (07:24):
That's wonderful.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
You got it. Thank you so much for your call.
Well let's go right back to the phone lines. We'll
talk next to Linda. She's listening in Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada.
Speaker 8 (07:34):
Hi, Linda, Hello Hank, it's a pleasure to talk with you.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Thank you.
Speaker 8 (07:38):
I'm calling about the exodus route of the Israelites. I
saw on the internet this couple we're talking about their
experience living in Saudi Arabia, and they took pictures of
sacrifice alters where sacrifices had taken place. They're convinced that
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the Israelites not camp at Mount Sinai, the traditional location,
but actually went into Saudi Arabia. And also they believe
the Lord gave them a sign snowflakes fell from the
sky in the shape of the Star of David. They
believe that the land wasn't big enough to hold all
the people at the Mount Sinai location. The mountain was
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not high enough. So have you heard this theory? This
was all new to me.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Yes, I've heard it in bits and pieces over the years.
But I can tell you and this is a generalized
statement that is not dealing with each one of the
specifics that you brought up, but in general, it is
the kind of thing that we talk about when we
talk about conspiracy theories that are impossible to falsify. There's
no real basis for this. This is sensationalism and sophistry
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for the most part.
Speaker 8 (08:53):
Okay, it sounded like that to me, And I just
wanted to run this by you because I want the
truth and I know you stand for the truth. And
I've been studying my scripture and I've got the map
in front of me, and I've never heard of this before.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Yeah, and that's right. I mean, the problem is that
there's not enough information in scripture where you can absolutely
falsify every part of the conspiracy theory. That's part of
the problem. So there's enough rope there to hang yourself
on sensationalism. And that's exactly what they do.
Speaker 8 (09:30):
Okay, even though they went on this Christian program and
they were talking about their experience and like the snowflakes
in the shape and I saw it like a friend
showed me on the internet. She's just she believes this
theory and I don't believe it.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
No, don't.
Speaker 8 (09:48):
Yeah, you can see the star of David snowflakes.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Yeah, it's just it's unbelievable the kinds of things that
people are doing in the name of Christianity. You find
it in medigoria, you find it in word to face circles.
It's amazing. The kind of sensationalism that's sabotageous truth, not
only within Christianity today but in offshoots of Christianity. It
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is tragic. And what happens is people get away from
those things that we ought to focus on and they
end up with selling in sensationalism, driving the wagon.
Speaker 8 (10:26):
Okay, Well, thank you, it's been a pleasure talking with you,
and blessings on your ministry.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Hank Well Thank you, Linda. It was a wonderful opportunity
to speak with you as well. Coming up to station break,
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Thank you very much for Indy, And let's go right
back to our phone callers. Next up, let's stuck to
Billy in Poplar Bluff, Missouri.
Speaker 9 (15:17):
Hi, Billy, Hey, Hank, how's it going? Man?
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Good?
Speaker 8 (15:20):
Her?
Speaker 9 (15:20):
Are you hey pretty good?
Speaker 8 (15:22):
Hey?
Speaker 9 (15:22):
Just had a real quick question. I was curious about
when Mary conceived of the Holy Spirit? Now was she
conceived by Jesus? Was did Jesus leave Heaven and his
place he held in Heaven? Did he bring it to earth?
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I mean, did he literally leave Heaven and come to earth?
Did he stop existing in heaven for that time?
Speaker 2 (15:54):
No, Jesus Christ is one person with two natures. So
in the incarnation, Christ takes on the human nature, so
he's one person with two natures, one hundred percent human
one hundred percent divine. In the incarnation, Jesus Christ did
not divest himself of a divine nature. He took on
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the limitations of a human nature without divesting himself of
any divine properties.
Speaker 9 (16:25):
But I mean, did he literally.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Leave heaven though, Well, no, because Jesus Christ, if he
is divine, has all the attributes of divinity, which means transcendence,
and it means omnipresence. But his prerogatives of divinity were veiled,
they weren't eradicated, so he is every bit divine. So
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Jesus Christ would know all things about all things from
the perspective of his divination. From the perspective of his humanity,
he would not because he voluntarily veiled the prerogatives of divinity.
Speaker 9 (17:09):
Okay, yeah, I was just trying to fathom I guess
in the sense what you're saying here.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Yeah, that's what the Bible tells us. In the beginning
was the Word, and the Word was with God, and
the Word was God. And then we read that the
Word became flesh and dwelt for a while among us
we beheld his glory in the incarnation Jesus is still
the god Man, one percent human, one hundred percent divine.
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So all the attributes of divinity are still in Christ
as he walked this earth, but they are veiled every
now and then you see them more clearly. For example,
Jesus does what only God can do. He has the
power to lay down his life and the power to
take up his life again, thus demonstrating his god So
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you see his divine prerogatives enacted at times, but he
takes on the form of a servant as Philippians lets
us know.
Speaker 9 (18:07):
Okay, I appreciate that, you got it.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
It's Chrisia to point out that though the god Man
is fully human, he's not merely human. Though he took
on all the essential properties of human nature, he did
not take on that which was non essential. For example,
he didn't have sinful inclinations, as Adam was created without
a proclivity towards sin, So the second atom was untainted
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by original sin. And as with his moral perfection, Jesus'
other divine attributes omniscience, omnipotence, omnipresence, and so forth, were
not undermined in the incarnation. Back to the phone lines,
we'll talk next to Karen listening in Slater, Missouri.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
Hi Karen, Yes, Hi, Hi, Hey, thanks for taking my call.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Pleasure.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
Okay, I have a question. It's kind of it's probably weird,
but okay, I became a Christian here within the last
year and was baptized, and I mean, it's the greatest
thing that ever happened to me. I was raised Catholic,
but that's another story. And I took like the long road,
so I was like, really not a good person, and
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I'm in recoveries. But I'm in church. And but here
I am, and I read my Bible and I go
to a Bible study because I'm very curious. I want
to know and if someone said something, I will look
it up and I will ask, and I mean I
read it all the time. But here's the thing. So
here I am, and I mean I try to live
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as do you know. My thinking is do as God
would want you to do. With that, please God. But
I feel like I'm lost because I don't know, you know,
what am I supposed to be doing with my life.
I mean, I know, worship Jesus, but I mean, like, okay,
some people might be musically inclined, so maybe they go
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to school and they become teachers, and they teach people
to you know, play the organ or da da da,
and for you know, Jesus, and to pass on the
music of you know, the church or whatever. But I
don't have I don't think I have anything real.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Well, actually the truth as you do. And God moves
through people and circumstances so that you might find and
use your gifting. But I can absolutely guarantee you that
as a believer, you have gifts and you are called
to use those gifts within the body of Christ. And
this is what's so important, Karen. When you became a believer,
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you weren't born again in isolation. You're born again within
a community of faith, right, And that's why Paul says,
I say to every one of you, do not think
of yourself more highly than you ought, but think of
yourself with sober judgment, in accordance with the measure of
faith God has given you. Just as each of us
has one body with many members, and these members do
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not all have the same function. So in Christ, we
who are many, form one body, and each member belongs
to all the others. And then he says this, we
have different gifts according to the grace given us, and therefore,
whatever your gift is, you have to use that gift
within the context of serving Christ. Some gifts are teaching,
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some are musical, as you mentioned, some are encouraging, some
are giving, some are showing leadership, some are showing mercy.
There are different gifts, and God will show you those gifts.
I mean, he did not save you without a purpose.
He saved you for eternity, but He has a purpose
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for you in the meantime. That's why He's left you here.
So you got a purpose and a calling, and it's
not always easy to find. What you have to do
is be faithful. You have to take part of the
means of grace, which means that you should be involved
in a healthy, well bounced church. You should partake in
the sacraments.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
Yes, I do, I do. I volunteer, I go to
Bible study. I you know, deliver meals on wheels. I mean,
I am, I do.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
See here's the problem, And let me just use a
personal anecdote. When I became a believer, I remember the
man that was discipling me. I would say to him,
you know, I don't feel any different, and he would
look at me like I was from Mars. He would say, wow,
are you different? So but subjectively we don't always see
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the changes, but objectively other people can see them. And
just as you're talking, I mean, you're talking about a
lot of things that you're doing. You're exercising gifts of mercy.
So you are using your gift. And we don't all
have the same gift. I mean, who's to say that
your gift is not more important than mine. God, in
his own economy, uses people in different ways. But we're
all servants that are used for his God. So just
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keep pressing on and partake of the means of grace.
Make sure that you are praying.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
Oh wait, all the time.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Make sure that you're in the word of God.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
I read in my Bible regularly, I mean several times.
It always goes with me wherever I go.
Speaker 9 (23:15):
Well, I mean.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
I always you know what you don't know it, But
you're an example. Okay, you're already an example. And just
keep partaking of the means of grace, and I promise
you God will continue to use you. And oftentimes, you know,
there are times that I wonder myself and people think
this is silly when I say it, but I wonder, God,
are you using me? And yet you have those insecurities
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that happen as you travel along the path of life.
But God's using you. Karen, thanks for calling in.
Speaker 9 (23:43):
Bless you.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Okay, By I want to go back to the phone
line doctor Terry in Missouri.
Speaker 7 (23:50):
Hi, Terry, Hi, I absolutely praise God for you, brother Hank,
and all the people that surround you to make your
voice happen on this radio ministry. It is a what
had it done in my life?
Speaker 2 (24:01):
No, bless you, but my question.
Speaker 7 (24:04):
We had Sunday school a couple Sundays ago, and one
of the questions that was brought up is when Abram
was told by the Lord to leave his land and
his father and go to a place that he would
show him. Lot went with him, And the question was
was it a disobedient or wrong for a Lot to
go with Abram.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
No. I think that Lot was following the Lord and
going with Abraham. Now, Lot, you can see, and a
lot of little hints in the text, was looking out
for his own welfare. When Abraham and Lot had to
split up because God had prospered both of them, Lot
looked to the fattest part of the land as it
were because he saw the promise of prosperity, and Lot
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ended up in Sodom and Gemara, and as a result
of that, also ended up becoming a victim of the culture,
which is to say, we're called to transform the culture.
But Lot became a microcosm, to one degree or another,
of the culture, and therefore he had to be saved
from the very culture that he had embraced. So there's
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a sense in which the Bible is telling us that
Abraham was following God in faith. Lot was following what
God could provide, and so it's sort of an example
of loving the master or loving what is on the
Master's table, and Lot was an example of the latter.
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And yet God providentially gave him more than one chance
so that he could turn and be rescued, be saved
from the world, and embrace true spirituality.
Speaker 9 (25:45):
Praise God. That's awesome.
Speaker 7 (25:47):
I love you, Hank, keep it up.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Hey, Thank you so much, Terry. Appreciate your call, and
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From Charlotte, North Carolina. You're listening to the Bible answer
Man broadcast with Hank Hanagraph, president of the Christian Research Institute.
The reason the Bible answer Man is on the air
is to defend the Christian faith, proclaim the gospel of
our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, and to teach discipleship
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and now here's your host, Hank Hanagraph.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Thank you very much for Andy glad to hanging on.
Let's go right to the phone calls. First up is
Caroline in Wichita, Kansas. She's listening on the web. Hi Carolina,
Hi Hank.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Thanks for taking my call. I was born and brought
up in a good Christian family, and whenever I thought
about the incarnation of Jesus Christ and his humanity and
his sinlessness, I never really talk much about it because
I thought that it is a mystery that we probably
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will not understand. To the full extent here. But I
was discussing this with a friend and she said that
the way that Jesus Christ is sinless even though he
is fully human, is because he was born of Mary.
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But she was like a surrogate mother, meaning that he
did not share any of her dna. But he could
be entirely human, just like Adam is an entirely human
even though he was not born of a woman a sperm.
So I was wondering what your thoughts.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Are about that Mary was more than a surro good mother.
Orthodoskys as hell that Jesus derived his human nature from Mary.
I think to have a human nature does not necessitate
having a sin nature, and the first atom is a
perfect example of that. And again, the incarnation is a miracle.
As a Christian, we appeal to both natural explanations as
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well as supernatural explanations for what we encounter in the universe.
The universe itself is an effect that demands a supernatural explanation,
so the incarnation is a miracle. Mary did not conceive
in the same way that any other woman conceived. The
birth was the same, and Jesus was born in the
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same way, but not conceived in the same way. So
this is a miracle as God taking on human flesh.
It's a miracle that's in conceald apart from a supernatural explanation.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Okay, okay, thank you so much for you answer.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
I appreciate that you got it.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Thank you so much for your question. I want to
go back to the phone lines. Talk next to David
and Saint Louis Missouri. Hi, David, Hey Hank, this.
Speaker 5 (03:17):
Is Lindsay, his wife. We actually had two quick questions
for you. Yes, my question is we are an interracial couple.
I am white and he is African American. I've kind
of been dealing with, you know, some of my family
members are saying that God frowns upon that, and they're
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saying it's not right, and we're just kind of wanting
to know what you think about it.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Well, it's just a horrible notion that it's not right.
You're both human beings. Now you have different genetic proclivities,
but your human beings, and there's no hierarchy of races.
In fact, race is not a Christian concept except to
the race. So while you have a different genetic proclivities,
you're a human being and to be married as human
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beings because you're yoked together in the bonds of fellowship
in Christ, therefore equally yoked because of your relationship to
Christ is great. You should celebrate it. And anyone that
tells you that you should marry someone with different genetic
proclivities is simply inconsistent with a biblical worldview, right.
Speaker 5 (04:30):
I've even had a doctor tell my father, well, you know,
she the black race. They they are more susceptible to
certain illnesses and it's just a mess.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Well that may be, I mean, it may be that
that certain genetic makeups are more susceptible to certain things
than others. I mean, if you have a lot of
pigmentation in your skin, you're probably not as susceptible to
getting cancer. I don't know, it's possible. I mean, I'm
I'm talking about melanoma. I'm not a doctor, so I
don't know that for certain. But I know one thing
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is I'll burn a lot faster than your husband would
because I have fairst skin. I was born in Holland,
so I have to watch the sun very very carefully
and make sure that I've got good suntan lotion on
to protect myself. But that's a completely different issue. You
are equal at the foot of the cross. You are
human beings. Enjoy your love. Anyone that says that somehow
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one person with one part of the gean pool another
person with another part of the gen pool can't be
married doesn't know anything about a Christian worldview.
Speaker 5 (05:38):
Right. Well, Hank, I really appreciate you answer my question,
and you have cleared up a lot for me internally.
We listen to you every night and I really appreciate it.
And if you have enough time, I think he has
a quick question.
Speaker 6 (05:52):
Okay, God bless you.
Speaker 5 (05:53):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
God bless you as well. Hey, David, your question, my.
Speaker 5 (05:58):
Question is where is the Garden of Eden right now?
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Well, the Garden of Eden doesn't exist right now. It
will exist again, and that will be when Jesus Christ returns.
The idea of the garden of Eden was God walking
with men in the cool of the day. No death,
no mourning, no disease, no destruction, no decay, because they
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are in a perfect paradise that God creates for them
in this world. They are secure in that paradise until
they violate the test of God and fall for the
tempt of the devil and then they're thrown out into
a world that is rife with destruction and decay and
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disease and death, and they experience alienation from God. But
the rest of the Bible becomes an unfolding plan of
redemption that culminates in a new heaven and a new
Earth wherein dwells righteousness, and that is Eden restored. So
Eden once again will be, and it will be this
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universe restored to what it was before sin entered the world.
That's what we look forward to.
Speaker 5 (07:23):
Okay, thank you, Hank.
Speaker 7 (07:24):
That's wonderful.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
You got it. Thank you so much for your call.
Well let's go right back to the phone lines. We'll
talk next to Linda. She's listening in Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada.
Speaker 8 (07:34):
Hi, Linda, Hello Hank, it's a pleasure to talk with you.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Thank you.
Speaker 8 (07:38):
I'm calling about the exodus route of the Israelites. I
saw on the internet this couple we're talking about their
experience living in Saudi Arabia, and they took pictures of
sacrifice alters where sacrifices had taken place. They're convinced that
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the Israelites not camp at Mount Sinai, the traditional location,
but actually went into Saudi Arabia. And also they believe
the Lord gave them a sign snowflakes fell from the
sky in the shape of the Star of David. They
believe that the land wasn't big enough to hold all
the people at the Mount Sinai location. The mountain was
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not high enough. So have you heard this theory? This
was all new to me.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Yes, I've heard it in bits and pieces over the years.
But I can tell you and this is a generalized
statement that is not dealing with each one of the
specifics that you brought up, but in general, it is
the kind of thing that we talk about when we
talk about conspiracy theories that are impossible to falsify. There's
no real basis for this. This is sensationalism and sophistry
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for the most part.
Speaker 8 (08:53):
Okay, it sounded like that to me, And I just
wanted to run this by you because I want the
truth and I know you stand for the truth. And
I've been studying my scripture and I've got the map
in front of me, and I've never heard of this before.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Yeah, and that's right. I mean, the problem is that
there's not enough information in scripture where you can absolutely
falsify every part of the conspiracy theory. That's part of
the problem. So there's enough rope there to hang yourself
on sensationalism. And that's exactly what they do.
Speaker 8 (09:30):
Okay, even though they went on this Christian program and
they were talking about their experience and like the snowflakes
in the shape and I saw it like a friend
showed me on the internet. She's just she believes this
theory and I don't believe it.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
No, don't.
Speaker 8 (09:48):
Yeah, you can see the star of David snowflakes.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Yeah, it's just it's unbelievable the kinds of things that
people are doing in the name of Christianity. You find
it in medigoria, you find it in word to face circles.
It's amazing. The kind of sensationalism that's sabotageous truth, not
only within Christianity today but in offshoots of Christianity. It
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is tragic. And what happens is people get away from
those things that we ought to focus on and they
end up with selling in sensationalism, driving the wagon.
Speaker 8 (10:26):
Okay, Well, thank you, it's been a pleasure talking with you,
and blessings on your ministry.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Hank Well Thank you, Linda. It was a wonderful opportunity
to speak with you as well. Coming up to station break,
we're right back with more answers to your questions in
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Speaker 2 (15:09):
Thank you very much for Indy, And let's go right
back to our phone callers. Next up, let's stuck to
Billy in Poplar Bluff, Missouri.
Speaker 9 (15:17):
Hi, Billy, Hey, Hank, how's it going? Man?
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Good?
Speaker 8 (15:20):
Her?
Speaker 9 (15:20):
Are you hey pretty good?
Speaker 8 (15:22):
Hey?
Speaker 9 (15:22):
Just had a real quick question. I was curious about
when Mary conceived of the Holy Spirit? Now was she
conceived by Jesus? Was did Jesus leave Heaven and his
place he held in Heaven? Did he bring it to earth?
(15:46):
I mean, did he literally leave Heaven and come to earth?
Did he stop existing in heaven for that time?
Speaker 2 (15:54):
No, Jesus Christ is one person with two natures. So
in the incarnation, Christ takes on the human nature, so
he's one person with two natures, one hundred percent human
one hundred percent divine. In the incarnation, Jesus Christ did
not divest himself of a divine nature. He took on
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the limitations of a human nature without divesting himself of
any divine properties.
Speaker 9 (16:25):
But I mean, did he literally.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Leave heaven though, Well, no, because Jesus Christ, if he
is divine, has all the attributes of divinity, which means transcendence,
and it means omnipresence. But his prerogatives of divinity were veiled,
they weren't eradicated, so he is every bit divine. So
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Jesus Christ would know all things about all things from
the perspective of his divination. From the perspective of his humanity,
he would not because he voluntarily veiled the prerogatives of divinity.
Speaker 9 (17:09):
Okay, yeah, I was just trying to fathom I guess
in the sense what you're saying here.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Yeah, that's what the Bible tells us. In the beginning
was the Word, and the Word was with God, and
the Word was God. And then we read that the
Word became flesh and dwelt for a while among us
we beheld his glory in the incarnation Jesus is still
the god Man, one percent human, one hundred percent divine.
(17:36):
So all the attributes of divinity are still in Christ
as he walked this earth, but they are veiled every
now and then you see them more clearly. For example,
Jesus does what only God can do. He has the
power to lay down his life and the power to
take up his life again, thus demonstrating his god So
(17:58):
you see his divine prerogatives enacted at times, but he
takes on the form of a servant as Philippians lets
us know.
Speaker 9 (18:07):
Okay, I appreciate that, you got it.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
It's Chrisia to point out that though the god Man
is fully human, he's not merely human. Though he took
on all the essential properties of human nature, he did
not take on that which was non essential. For example,
he didn't have sinful inclinations, as Adam was created without
a proclivity towards sin, So the second atom was untainted
(18:31):
by original sin. And as with his moral perfection, Jesus'
other divine attributes omniscience, omnipotence, omnipresence, and so forth, were
not undermined in the incarnation. Back to the phone lines,
we'll talk next to Karen listening in Slater, Missouri.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
Hi Karen, Yes, Hi, Hi, Hey, thanks for taking my call.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Pleasure.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
Okay, I have a question. It's kind of it's probably weird,
but okay, I became a Christian here within the last
year and was baptized, and I mean, it's the greatest
thing that ever happened to me. I was raised Catholic,
but that's another story. And I took like the long road,
so I was like, really not a good person, and
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I'm in recoveries. But I'm in church. And but here
I am, and I read my Bible and I go
to a Bible study because I'm very curious. I want
to know and if someone said something, I will look
it up and I will ask, and I mean I
read it all the time. But here's the thing. So
here I am, and I mean I try to live
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as do you know. My thinking is do as God
would want you to do. With that, please God. But
I feel like I'm lost because I don't know, you know,
what am I supposed to be doing with my life.
I mean, I know, worship Jesus, but I mean, like, okay,
some people might be musically inclined, so maybe they go
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to school and they become teachers, and they teach people
to you know, play the organ or da da da,
and for you know, Jesus, and to pass on the
music of you know, the church or whatever. But I
don't have I don't think I have anything real.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Well, actually the truth as you do. And God moves
through people and circumstances so that you might find and
use your gifting. But I can absolutely guarantee you that
as a believer, you have gifts and you are called
to use those gifts within the body of Christ. And
this is what's so important, Karen. When you became a believer,
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you weren't born again in isolation. You're born again within
a community of faith, right, And that's why Paul says,
I say to every one of you, do not think
of yourself more highly than you ought, but think of
yourself with sober judgment, in accordance with the measure of
faith God has given you. Just as each of us
has one body with many members, and these members do
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not all have the same function. So in Christ, we
who are many, form one body, and each member belongs
to all the others. And then he says this, we
have different gifts according to the grace given us, and therefore,
whatever your gift is, you have to use that gift
within the context of serving Christ. Some gifts are teaching,
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some are musical, as you mentioned, some are encouraging, some
are giving, some are showing leadership, some are showing mercy.
There are different gifts, and God will show you those gifts.
I mean, he did not save you without a purpose.
He saved you for eternity, but He has a purpose
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for you in the meantime. That's why He's left you here.
So you got a purpose and a calling, and it's
not always easy to find. What you have to do
is be faithful. You have to take part of the
means of grace, which means that you should be involved
in a healthy, well bounced church. You should partake in
the sacraments.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
Yes, I do, I do. I volunteer, I go to
Bible study. I you know, deliver meals on wheels. I mean,
I am, I do.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
See here's the problem, And let me just use a
personal anecdote. When I became a believer, I remember the
man that was discipling me. I would say to him,
you know, I don't feel any different, and he would
look at me like I was from Mars. He would say, wow,
are you different? So but subjectively we don't always see
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the changes, but objectively other people can see them. And
just as you're talking, I mean, you're talking about a
lot of things that you're doing. You're exercising gifts of mercy.
So you are using your gift. And we don't all
have the same gift. I mean, who's to say that
your gift is not more important than mine. God, in
his own economy, uses people in different ways. But we're
all servants that are used for his God. So just
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keep pressing on and partake of the means of grace.
Make sure that you are praying.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
Oh wait, all the time.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Make sure that you're in the word of God.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
I read in my Bible regularly, I mean several times.
It always goes with me wherever I go.
Speaker 9 (23:15):
Well, I mean.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
I always you know what you don't know it, But
you're an example. Okay, you're already an example. And just
keep partaking of the means of grace, and I promise
you God will continue to use you. And oftentimes, you know,
there are times that I wonder myself and people think
this is silly when I say it, but I wonder, God,
are you using me? And yet you have those insecurities
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that happen as you travel along the path of life.
But God's using you. Karen, thanks for calling in.
Speaker 9 (23:43):
Bless you.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Okay, By I want to go back to the phone
line doctor Terry in Missouri.
Speaker 7 (23:50):
Hi, Terry, Hi, I absolutely praise God for you, brother Hank,
and all the people that surround you to make your
voice happen on this radio ministry. It is a what
had it done in my life?
Speaker 2 (24:01):
No, bless you, but my question.
Speaker 7 (24:04):
We had Sunday school a couple Sundays ago, and one
of the questions that was brought up is when Abram
was told by the Lord to leave his land and
his father and go to a place that he would
show him. Lot went with him, And the question was
was it a disobedient or wrong for a Lot to
go with Abram.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
No. I think that Lot was following the Lord and
going with Abraham. Now, Lot, you can see, and a
lot of little hints in the text, was looking out
for his own welfare. When Abraham and Lot had to
split up because God had prospered both of them, Lot
looked to the fattest part of the land as it
were because he saw the promise of prosperity, and Lot
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ended up in Sodom and Gemara, and as a result
of that, also ended up becoming a victim of the culture,
which is to say, we're called to transform the culture.
But Lot became a microcosm, to one degree or another,
of the culture, and therefore he had to be saved
from the very culture that he had embraced. So there's
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a sense in which the Bible is telling us that
Abraham was following God in faith. Lot was following what
God could provide, and so it's sort of an example
of loving the master or loving what is on the
Master's table, and Lot was an example of the latter.
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And yet God providentially gave him more than one chance
so that he could turn and be rescued, be saved
from the world, and embrace true spirituality.
Speaker 9 (25:45):
Praise God. That's awesome.
Speaker 7 (25:47):
I love you, Hank, keep it up.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Hey, Thank you so much, Terry. Appreciate your call, and
as always, it is such a privilege to do The
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of us. Perhaps nothing is more important than grasping the
significance of the coming God in human flesh. Without the life, death,
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