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Speaker 1 (00:07):
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Speaker 2 (00:46):
Thank you very much for Andy has always it is
delight to be in studio as we answer your questions
throughout the United States and Canada. First up, Sharon listening
in Saint Lewis, Missouri. Hi, Sharon, Hi, how would you Hank?
Speaker 3 (00:57):
I'm well, thank you.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
Thank you. I have a dilemma I'm dealing with. I
have a husband who is actually in jail right now
for hitting me. He might get possibly five to ten years.
He also has a pending rate charge that he rate
me to that he could also get quite a bit
of time for. And my question is how do I
handle this? Do I divorce him or what?
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Well?
Speaker 2 (01:21):
I think the ultimate good is always reconciliation. I mean,
that's the highest standard. That is the thing that all
of us should strive to attain to if possible. But
if the door to reconciliation is closed, and there are
biblical grounds for divorce, then that becomes an option. But
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remember Moses gave the opportunity to divorce. Why because of
the hardness of our hearts. But in the New Testament
we certainly see that there are legitimate grounds for divorce.
They include adultery, desertion, and there are some activities that
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we could legitimately argue from that biblical precedent that constitute
biblical grounds for divorce, even though they're not specifically named
in the New Testament. And some of those would be
sins against the marriage covenant, which include physical abuse, unrepentant
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addiction to pornography, other kinds of activities that are harmful
to the family. And we've written about this, actually, Sharon
in the Christian Research Journal, where we did an article
which lays this out so you can look at it
for yourself. But again, I think that the thing that
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should drive everything else is if there is a possibility
for restitution and reconcis that is what we should ultimately
strive for now. It always takes two parties. It takes
someone who is willing to forgive, which would in this
case be you, and there's the need for someone who's
wanting to be forgiven, which would be your incarcerated husband.
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At this point, if you want to hang on, I
can send this article to you, which lays out, I think,
in very striking form, the covenant basis that establishes a marriage.
To begin with, Thank you so much for your call, Sharon.
Your prayers go with you as well. Back to the
phone lines, let's talk next to Ray. He's listening in Vancouver,
British Columbia. Hi Ray, Hi Hank, how are you.
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I'm doing okay. My question it's in reference to one
John five about the sin that leads to death. I
heard it interpreted that leading translated means face to face,
that there is a sing that we come face to
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face with that leads to death, and I'm just wondering
what your take on that is.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Well, my take on a first John chapter five is
the sin that leads to death in context is a
sin that has to do with eternal life, so that
sin unto death would appear to be a sin leading
one from eternal life. And in this vein there are
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two distinct possibilities. One of them would be hating your
brother and sister, and the other would be failing to
believe in the real Jesus, in other words, embracing false
doctrine and going after heresy.
Speaker 5 (04:41):
Well, if that were the case, then how come you
wouldn't want to pray into that situation for the one
led astray?
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Well, if anyone sees his brother commit a sin that
does not lead to death, he should pray and God
will give him life. And then John says, I refer
to those whose sin does not lead to death. There
is a sin that leads to death, and it is
a sin again that leads to death. And John says,
I'm not saying that he should pray about that all
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wrongdoing his sin. And there's a sin that does not
lead to death. But the sin that leads to death
is a sin in which you're embracing false doctrine. And
I think in that case what you want to do
is counter false doctrine with truth.
Speaker 5 (05:25):
Okay, that passage can be convicting if not held in
the right context.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Well, it can be convicting, and it can be terrorizing
as well as it has been to many people who
think that they've committed the unpardonable sin.
Speaker 5 (05:39):
Yeah, it leads to that, and I imagine that they
relate it to sexual immorality as pushing God to the
limit in their unrestraint of sexual immorality.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Yeah in many cases yes, or sexual indiscretions or habits
that they can break and the like.
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But here's the point.
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I think that we have to remember that the panoply
of Scripture teaches us this that as long as we
are in the flesh, we have an opportunity to receive
Jesus Christ as save your Lord, and that any unforgivable
sin is never a activity or action, but it is
a continuous rejection, a willful rejection. So even if you
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have a habit that you can't break, that's not a
sin that is unpardonable. If you have a tender heart
and you continuously ask God to forgive you because you care,
how about doing it His way as opposed to doing
it your own way. That does not put you outside
the reach of His grace. From a historical perspective, what
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you find is there were people in the Bible who
knew that Jesus Christ emerged through the doorway of Old
Testament prophecy, and yet they attributed the miracles that he
was doing, which attests to who he was to Beel's
above the prince of demons.
Speaker 5 (07:02):
Yeah, but resisting temptation is strongly encouraged by the writers
of the New Testament, especially in regards to sexual morality.
And Paul says that the sin is against your own body,
whereas all other sins is outside your body. But that
particular sin is against your body. Yeah, it seems to
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be more devastating in consequence.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
And I think that's exactly right. And I think you're
putting the emphasis in the right place as well. I mean,
consequences to sin are different. There are some people who
suggest that all sin is sin, but as you correctly
point out, the consequences sins are far greater than the
consequences of other sins. The ultimate question, however, is is
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there a sexual sin that will put you outside the
reach of God's grace? And I don't think that there's
any warrant for saying that that is.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
So, biblically speaking. Biblically speaking, Okay, well, my great fear
is the departing of the Holy Spirit, and inevitably the
rejection by God. I want to be in accordance to
his will, but I fear that that I've thwarted God's
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will for me, whatever it may have been.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Well, I can promise you that that's not the case,
and that is on the basis of scripture.
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And first of all, let me say a couple of things.
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One is, your repentant attitude is quite obvious in the
way that you're framing the conversation. You deeply care about
offending God's righteousness, and that really is what repentance is.
It's a change of heart, it's a change of mind,
it's a change of the will that is manifest in
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your communication. There are great exams amples in the Bible
of those who have violated the holiness of God, those
who are exemplars to us. And King David immediately of course,
will come to mind. Not only because he took a
census which demonstrated that he was depending on the arm
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of flesh as opposed to depending on the arm of
the Lord, but because he had a man killed on
the battle front so that he.
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Could take his wife.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
He was involved in not only murder but grievous sexual sin.
And yet we see that God not only forgave him,
but God had a purpose for his life, because after
that sin he wrote Psalm fifty one. After that sin
he wrote Psalm one thirty nine. And we can see
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in those psalms today God's use of David, though he
was involved in grievous sin. So the notion that you
outside of his grace, I think is settled in your heart.
You're not. You're not outside his grace. But the notion
that he can't use you ought to be settled in
your heart as well. He can and will use you.
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God loves those who are genuinely repentant. And you can say,
with David, restore to me the joy of your salvation.
Grant a willing spirit to sustain you. Your temple is
the temple of the Holy Spirit, and you can rest
assured that the Spirit will never leave you or forsake you.
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That you can daily pray for the empowerment of the
Holy Spirit, such that you are not only in Dwelt,
but daily infilled by the Spirit, so that you can
be service worthy in the vineyard of the Master. I'll
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Thank you, Radyan. Let's go right, Victor.
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Our phone calls talk next to Daniel listening in Sioux Falls,
South Dakota.
Speaker 7 (15:16):
Hi, Daniel, Hi, Hank, God bless your ministry. I have
a quick question about are you familiar with Michael Perrow?
Speaker 3 (15:25):
Not personally, but our ministry certainly is.
Speaker 7 (15:28):
I have some literature here about he's writing about eight
Kingdom still particular to one that he's talked a lot
about the Kingdom of God verses the Kingdom of Heaven.
Speaker 5 (15:42):
Is there a.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Different No, The Kingdom of God and the Kingdom of
Heaven are used interchangeably in the Bible. There are people
who say that there's a distinction. But let me tell you.
If you look at Matthew nineteen, Kingdom of God and
Kingdom of Heaven are used interchangeably. There you have Jesus
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saying I tell you the truth. It is hard for
a rich man to enter the Kingdom of Heaven. It
is easier for a camel to go through the eye
of a needle than for a rich man to enter
the Kingdom of God. So that shows the interchangeable nature
of those two phrases. So I don't think that it
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is fair to say, as many people say that there
is a difference in intent. They are the same concept
communicated in different words, and there's a reason for that.
For example, Jews avoided the use of the name of God,
and therefore Matthew, who is writing principally to a Jewish audience,
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has a preference, and that preference is the Kingdom of Heaven,
although if you look through his gospel you'll find Kingdom.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Of God as well.
Speaker 6 (17:01):
Uh huh.
Speaker 7 (17:01):
Quickly, here's what has got as far as the Kingdom
of God is the timeless, spiritual rule of God over
all beings, wherever they may be in paradise, in Hell,
in Earth, or in the wire, in any of the
three heavens. And then the Kingdom of Heaven is the
kingdom that God intends for this earth. It is as
physical and earthly as is any kingdom discussed in world history.
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That's kind of a basic of it.
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Now, it's simply wrong, and it's not only wrong, but
it is indicative of the way he teaches. He has
so many problems in his teaching. For example, he'll make
a distinction between a Roman seven Christian and a mature Christian,
and he'll say, well, a Roman seven kind of a
Christian is a Christian who can stop sinning, and that
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is a mature Christian. A mature Christian can stop sinning,
but a Roman seven Christian can't stop sinning. So you
make a distinction there. But look, that's a distinction is
simply wrong biblically, because biblically, what do you have? You
have Christians who are mature, who struggle against the powerful
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lure of sin themselves, A classic example being the apostle Paul,
who says, I know that nothing good lists in me.
That is in my sinful nature, rather the desire to
do what is good, but I cannot carry it out.
For what I do is not the good I want
to do, no the evil. I do not want to do.
This I keep on doing. Now if I do what
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I do not want to do, it is no longer
I who do it, but it is sin living in
me that does it. And again that's not a statement
that is meant to escape moral responsibility, but it's a
statement regarding the powerful lure of sin in the life
of the believer. And even Paul was subject to that.
Speaker 7 (18:50):
Yes, I agree with you, and thank you so much
for clearing it up from me.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
God, bless you, God, bless you.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Thank you so much for your call. And Michael Pearl
also asserts the King James version of the Bible is
inspired in its entirety. That's simply falls. There's no translation
that's inspired in its entirety. It may be inspired in
a derivative sense, but what is inspired are the autographs.
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And that's what we believe is Christians. We believe that
they are an errant and they are infallible, and we
believe that we have lots of manuscripts, and out of
the manuscripts, the autograph can emerge. So we want to
use the very best analysis of the text so that
we can have the autograph, which is precisely what you
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find in the NIV, the NASB, the New King James Version,
also the King James Version, the King James Versus is
a wonderful translation that withstood the test of time for
four hundred years. So we don't want to appreciate it
in any sense. But we do have better manuscript evidence
than when the King James version was commissioned in sixteen
oh four and later completed in sixteen eleven. We simply
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have better manuscripts today. Thank god, we now have better
understanding of the original languages. We have better manuscripts. We
also recognize that language has gone through an evolution. So
King James version we talk about gay clothing, Well today
we talk about fine clothing, because that's what it means.
King James version says, from thence we fetched a compass. Well,
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the newer translations explain what that means. We proceeded in
a circular course. So the new translations simply clarify language
which has gone through an evolution from a denotative to
a connotative meaning. And now through the newer translations, we've
gone back to the denotative meaning, so we can understand
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what the text actually says. We'll go back to the
phone lines. Talk to Heidi listening in Iowa, Hig, Heidi, Hi, Hank.
Speaker 8 (20:53):
I have a question I was wondering I am another
of six and our youngest is four, and I was
wondering if you could help me maybe find some scripture
to I'm debating whether to work outside the home, and
I'm I'm a little conflicted over it. I've been home
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from home time and I just wish I was wondering
what your take was on that.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Well, six kids in a four year old, I mean,
you've got a huge responsibility. It's nothing in the Bible
that precludes the possibility of working outside the home, but
you do want to recognize your first responsibility, and that
is your children. If it takes working outside the home
to care for your children, the physical and even the
spiritual needs of your children, then that's a responsibility that
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you have. But the ultimate is you want to take
care of the responsibility that God has given to you,
and that has to be your first prayer, also has
to be your first purpose and your first priority in
every way. You want to take care of those kids.
And I think the same thing is true for me
as a man. If I reach the world to the
Bible answer Man broadcast, and I'm not suggesting I do,
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but we certainly have quite a large platform. Even that
would not be significant if I failed with my own family,
my first responsibilities to my.
Speaker 8 (22:15):
Family, right, And I just have this question goes along
with that. You know, the last couple of years, the
wild for my life is to be a mother first?
Speaker 4 (22:26):
Is that?
Speaker 8 (22:27):
Do you agree with that?
Speaker 3 (22:28):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (22:28):
I think it's important for you to recognize the role
that you have been given is a privilege, and you
want to carry out that privilege with all diligence. I mean,
it's a wonderful opportunity that you have to invest your
life in the lives of your children so that your
children can impact the Kingdom of God.
Speaker 7 (22:47):
Right, Right.
Speaker 8 (22:48):
Sometimes have I struggle whether or not I am in
the will of God. But then I think that's just
the mothering thing where I have frustrating days and I
have trouble finding insurance that I am in the will
of God.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
So I just Heidi, it's called the human condition. I mean,
we all go through it. It's ups and downs. The
Christian life is one series of challenges after the other.
You never get rid of the challenges. You just learn
to have peace in the midst of the storm. So
you're gonna have bad days. I'm gonna have bad days.
There are days I come into the studio and I
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don't think I get the words out in a proper order.
That's just part of the human condition. It's we're physically challenged,
we're mentally challenged sometimes.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
I mean, this is.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Part of the human condition. We await perfection in eternity,
and the meantime, we still live in bodies where the
limbs are getting shorter, the eyesight is getting worse, the
mind is not what it used to be. That's part
of the human condition, right, Okay, I.
Speaker 8 (23:49):
Mean I think deep down I kind of know what's
you know, I need to say. It's just some days
I think, oh, so it'd be nice to sometimes maybe
just have some I don't have a whole lot of fellowship.
It's other I suppose, like even just women my age
that believes the way I do. So I think that's
probably where I struggle sometimes with just companionship outside of
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my husband.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Well, Heidi, I mean, I hear you, I hear you
loud and clear, But look so often the grass looks
greener on the other side of the fence, right, Well,
when you get there, you find out it's really brown
or it's dead. So recognize that God has given you
a wonderful privilege that so many women would die for
to have six wonderful children.
Speaker 8 (24:35):
I know I love them. I'm just I know how
because I love them. Because you know, I can love
them as much as I do because He loves me,
and that's what I show to them. So I thank
you very much.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
I appreciate your goal. God bless you and your wonderful children.
Let's go back to the phone lines. Doctor William in Edmonton, Alberta, kennadaal.
Speaker 9 (24:55):
Hi William, Hi, Hello, mister Honigroff. I phoned today to
seek out your opinion. I am a conservative, Bible believing Christian. However,
I do engage in online poker games that do involve
small amounts of wager money. I do enjoy this activity. However,
I am startling to know if this activity is okay
in God's say.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Well, a couple of things that I would say, and
this is my way of principle. First of all, gambling
glorifies chance. Secondly, gambling encourages people to rely on luck
rather than on God's providence. Also, gambling can disregard Christian
stewardship principles, and oftentimes, gambling attempts to profit at the
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expense of someone else and appeals to greed. So these
are principles. That does not mean that all of the
principles apply to you. I'm simply saying that the one
thing you don't want to do is be a poor
steward at the resources that God gives you. On the
other hand, I recognized there are some forms of entertainment
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that takes some money, as long as that doesn't become
an idol to you or an addiction.
Speaker 9 (26:07):
Right, Okay, well I think got clarified my question. Thank
you so much.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
You get it, William. Thanks for tuning in. Look forward
to seeing you right here next time on more of
the show.
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