January 26, 2026 • 28 mins
On today’s Bible Answer Man broadcast (01/26/26), Hank answers the following questions:
We found out that our child, who was due in a few months, is nonviable. Is it morally acceptable to induce early labor, or should I continue the pregnancy? Samantha - Winston-Salem, NC (0:59)
I’ve come across a lot of pantomime performances in churches. Do you think this is acceptable? Harris - Philadelphia, PA (15:13)
Do you have any concerns with the use of temperament tests? Todd - Anaheim, CA (21:21)
We found out that our child, who was due in a few months, is nonviable. Is it morally acceptable to induce early labor, or should I continue the pregnancy? Samantha - Winston-Salem, NC (0:59)
I’ve come across a lot of pantomime performances in churches. Do you think this is acceptable? Harris - Philadelphia, PA (15:13)
Do you have any concerns with the use of temperament tests? Todd - Anaheim, CA (21:21)
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
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Speaker 2 (00:55):
Thank you very much, Randy, and we're going right to
our phone callers for stuff. Samantha Winston, Salem, North Carolina. Hi, Samantha,
Hey Hank, how are you? I'm good? How are you?
Speaker 3 (01:07):
I've been better and I won't try not to cry.
But my husband and I were expecting our first baby,
and unfortunately we've found out that our baby is not
going to live. She doesn't have a brain, she doesn't
have legs, and her arms are severely underdeveloped, and we're
heartbroken by all of that. I'm sure you can understand.
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And we really at this point are face now with
the choice of continuing on the pregnancy, or we have
the option of having an early induction where we still
be able to hold her and have her buried and all,
but wouldn't go through the remainder of the pregnancy. And
we've been in counseling with our pastor over it, and
with our parents and other individuals, and we're just still
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kind of at a loss of what to do. We've
been reassured and reassured and reassured that we are not
affecting the outcome that that our baby is not going
to live, but we you know, there's unknown certainly on
both sides of this. And I never in a million years,
never ever could have ever imagined being in a position
like this. And you know, really the concerns with continuing
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the pregnancy come around my health and just you know,
the physicality of it and the stress of it and
and going through that and what that's like. And and
you know, I kind of the whole time of our
pregnancy of sort of I've known in my heart something
was wrong, and I just have. I've known it. I've
just known it in my heart, and then now I
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kind of have that same feeling around worrying about my
own health with continuing on. And I don't know if
that's just fear or if that's you know, if I
should pay attention to that. But you know, above all,
we want to honor the Lord and bring him glory
through this.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
It's just and.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Terrible choices to make, and we just you know, I
really appreciate your show and your ministry, and I thought
that maybe you might have a little bit of light
to shed on this. I don't. We've told the doctors
repeatedly if there was a chance that our daughter would
just be severely disabled or have severe difficulties or anything
like that, to please tell us that we would not
you know, we would honor that life. And they continue
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to assure us that that is not the case. And
they said, you know, we don't often give a patient
no hope, but in this case, you know, this is
absolutely terminal with her situation, the specifically with the brain situation.
So that's where we are, and we haven't had any
problems the whole time, so I, you know, I just
can't believe this.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Yeah, Samantha, I'm so glad you called. And first let
me say this that on some level I can identify
with you in that my wife and I had a
preborn child that died. They be Grace, and the thing
that name. M Wow, Well, you're going to make me
emotional here.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
But sorry, here's make everyone cry these days.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Well, here's the thing. We know for certain that you're
going to have a relationship with baby Grace for all eternity,
and that's a good news.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
And that's the blessing that we've fit over and over
through this that we are so thankful for that.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Yeah. And the other thing that you said, which is
just so heartwarming to me is the fact that you're
going to have a burial. I think so often, oh wonderful.
So often people neglect, even Christians neglect that part of
the process. We want to recognize that that baby Grace
is a real person.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Yes, she's our daughter, and.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Therefore she deserves a real funeral, and you will spend
eternity with her, and one day she will develop the
DNA that makes her her, will develop into what she
would have been if sin had never entered the world.
So you will see her in perfection, and now you
have an opportunity to be a testimony. Now you've got
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to take seriously the medical aspects, which is to say
that if your life is in danger, that's a serious consideration.
If it is certain that baby Grace is going to die. Remember,
we can't take that prerogative into our own hands, because
life and death is the prerogative of God alone. But
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you have to consider seriously medical ramifications for you. There's
a greater good principle. And no one has to tell
you anything about this. I mean, I could, I could
try to go into detail on this, but it's unnecessary
because your heart is where God wants your heart. Your
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heart is with his will, not your own will. Your
heart is with his purposes, not your own. You want
him to be glorified. And I'll tell you something. With
your heart, where your heart is, God is not going
to allow you to make a mistake in this process.
You have to get the very best medical advice that
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you can get. You've looked for the best spiritual advice
that you can get. Your heart is the heart of God.
You've demonstrated that in even enunciating the question, which, by
the way, let me tell you baby Grace and your
testimony right here on air is going to impact people. Therefore,
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we already know for a certainty, although we didn't need
this evidence, we know for a certainty that baby grace
life has significance for no other reason than this phone call,
but obviously for many reasons beyond that. I've seen the
life of our baby Grace, as short as it was,
having incredible power and impact right up to the present day.
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So that's the beauty in all of this. God is
going to bring gold out of the ashes. Now you
have to do what's prudent, which is to say, you
have to take again the best scientific and the best
scriptural advice that you can get and go through this
not without the Body of Christ, but recognizing that you
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are a part, a member of the Body of Christ,
and not go through this alone, not go through this
apart from the Body of Christ, but with the Body
of Christ, which is precisely what you're doing.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Yes, and we've been able. You know, there's there's wonderful
Christians on both sides of you know, who have made
the choice to continue and who've made the choice to
to go ahead and say goodbye. And you know, it
feels like I just feel like we don't have a
good choice. I wish the Lord would just take this,
take this out of our hands completely.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
It's well, in some sense, you probably will as long
as your life is not endangered, right.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Well, and that's the thing. It's just difficult, you know,
That's I guess the really the hardest part of this
is there's not you know, nobody can say for sure
yes or for sure no, because this is such a
hugely rare, rare, just severe situation that she has. That's
really something that they haven't seen before. And so in
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our case, you know, they can say, you know, you know,
the regular complications of pregnancy, and but we haven't seen
a case like this before. And I think that's what
makes me feel scared more than anything, is there are
so many unknowns because it is so so tremendously rare,
and so no one can say, oh, yes, there's lots
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of mothers who have carried a term with that condition
and they're you know, they're all fine.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Well, the Lord Samantha has entrusted you with a very
rare case because you're a very rare person. And I'm
not saying that gratuitously. I'm just saying that based on
how you're communicating. First of all, you're eloquent in your
pain and in your suffering. And God has a purpose
in all of this. And I would commend the scripture
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so that God can speak to you personally through the scripture,
you know, particularly someone thirty nine. And I like to
point people to this passage because it so speaks to
the issue not only of baby Grace, but also usamanth
It speaks to you. The Lord knows you're going out
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and you're lying down. He's familiar with all your ways.
He's hemmed you in behind him before he's laid his
hand upon you. You don't need to fear his hand,
even this moment is upon you. Your thoughts are precious
to him, as his thoughts are precious to you. And
even now you can praise God because Baby Grace is
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fearfully and wonderfully made, and her frame is not hidden
from God. When she's been woven together in the secret
place in the depths of the earth, God's eyes see
baby Grace's unformed body. And all the days ordain for
Baby Grace are already written in his book before even
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one of them has come to be Samantha, you can
leave maybe Grace in the hands of your Lord and Savior.
You look at the situation as long as you have
the ability to carry baby Grace. It's an honor and
a privilege. If your life is in danger, obviously you
need to take the appropriate action because there is a
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greater good principle that should be invoked at that point.
We'll be praying for you. My family will be praying
for you, and I'm sure a lot of other people
listening in will be praying for you as well. God
bless you, Samantha. We are unfortunately coming up to station Brick.
Will be right back.
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Speaker 2 (15:12):
Much Randy, and let's return to our callers. Next up
is Harris listening in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. High Harris, Yes, God,
bless you, thank you.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
I'm now a pastor, and I used to be a
Satanist at one time, and I have a just to
know what do you think about a certain thing that
I've been seeing has been happening in the Pentecostal churches
have been having and some Baptist churches and some non
denomination churches. It's pantomime in the churches. And I'm not
talking about like you know, sign languages. I'm talking about
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pantomime like dances. And they'll turn off all the lights
and they'll have white white gloves and dress all in black.
And I know that the early church fathers hippolotists. He
wrote against it, and I know that it was something
that was done in wrong when they used to kill
Christians and they study in Greece. But I want to
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know what do you think is it? Is it something
that should be done in the churches. In my opinion
it shouldn't. But what do you think about that?
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Well, I think the message that's being communicated is paramount,
whether you do it through hand motions with white gloves,
or whether you do it through your vocal cords. The
message is paramount. Okay. So if for example, you're using
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panamimee as a way of communicating the gospel, just as
a classication point, there would be nothing inherently wrong with it.
The point is everything media. Media is a tool, Okay.
Media can be used for evil purposes, Media can be
used for good purposes. It's a tool. We don't want
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to fall in love with the tool, but we want
to use extent tools for God's glory. And I think
a lot of times these kinds of things can be
a distraction rather than amplifying the gospel. But that is
not to say that it can't be used in a
useful way for the communication of the gospel. So if
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it becomes a tool misused, it's bad. If it is
a tool used properly, it can be Okay, that's the principle.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
Okay, but it takes ten. It talks about the two
sons of Aaron that they gave a fire that was
strange to the Lord and God killed them because of it.
You know.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Yeah, but this is a much different thing.
Speaker 4 (17:44):
But you're saying so that you're saying that someone dressed
in black and with the lights off and white gloves,
and that that's okay.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Yes, what's going on with the Sons of Aaron is
a completely different thing. Here, you have a situation where
unholy fire is being offered to the Lord. In other words,
the Lord prescribes how things are to be done in
terms of sacrifice, in terms of the priestly duties. He
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very specifically prescribes how that is to be done within
the context of a theocracy, and with premeditation they insult God,
and therefore, as priests to the people, they pay with
capital punishment. That's God's decision. But this is a this
is a difference.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
It's something that came from Greece. Then it moved to
the Christian error. Her early church father spoke against it.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
But here again you have to understand the principle. And
that's the point I'm saying. Do you think that the
early church fathers are going to speak against the communication
of the Gospel because the lights are off and you're
using white gloves. No, the prostitution of the Gospel is
always at issue. I mean, I can look at a
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particular television network and say, okay, this television network has
been used for inherently evil purposes. Okay, but that does
not mean that that platform can't be used as a
corrective means to communicate the Gospel. Let's look at money.
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Money is oftentimes depicted in the Bible as filthy. But
that does not mean that I can't take ten dollars
and give it to someone who needs a loaf of bread.
So I can use that for purposes that are evil,
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I can also use that for purposes that are good.
And that's the point, that's the principle. Okay, I really
appreciate your heart, Hairris, I really do. I mean, I
hear you. I hear you loud and clear. You want
to be honoring to the lords.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
And as a census, these churches are not preaching no more.
These churches are.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Just entertaining with this, saying well, and that's why I
say I appreciate your heart. That that's kind of what
I sensed was behind all of this. And I couldn't
agree with you more. We have gone from education to entertainment.
We've gone, Yes, I couldn't agree with you more. That's
another issue though, And again, if this becomes the focus
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of the church, where entertainment becomes paramount, here's the problem.
You got to keep upping the ante because to keep
people by an experience, you got to keep gradually ratcheting
the experience up and up and up, because otherwise they'll
go somewhere else where they can get the experience in
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three D, and so certainly technique has overwhelmed theology. And
I think think they're in. You've put your finger on
a real substance of problem. That's the real issue.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
Okay, God bless you. I'm a hand kiagraph and I
either I still disagree with the pantomime thing, but I
do I do love you, and I do respect you
in I think you're a great person.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Well, respect goes both ways. Thank you so much for
your very courteous call. I want to go back to
the phone lines. Todd, you're a next listening on the
web in Anaheim, California.
Speaker 5 (21:26):
Hi Todd, Yes, sir, Hello Hank. It's a privilege to
speak to you.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Thank you.
Speaker 5 (21:31):
Likewise, okay, great. I want to bring up an issue
that I have become kind of preoccupied with to some extent,
and that matter is the use of career assessments, particularly
assessments that have been used as gift assessments, and the
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use of those assessments in the church. And I have
big questions about the use of asessments founded upon the
beliefs and theories. Perhaps some of the theories may be true,
but theories of the first what are known as psychologists
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or psychoanalysts, And so my question would be, do you
have any similar concern with the use of the spiritual
gift assessments in the church that are have links have
connections with those those things.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Yeah, a good question, and obviously have done your homework.
But here's the point all truth. That's got truth, and
therefore you can find truth with Stephen Covey in his
Seven Habits of an Effective Leader or Effective Manager. Why
because even though he's Mormon, he's got some of the
leadership principles right. The same thing could be said with
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jungyin psychoanalysis or psychology. And I think we don't want
to make a genetic fallacy here and there for just
throughout the baby with the bathwater. But you've done your homework,
and I think there are certainly problems here because you
have a Myers Briggs test rooted in Carl Jung's theory
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of psychological types, and for this reason, many Christians have
rejected the legitimacy of the test. So two issues here.
One is is it legitimate in terms of how it
deals with psychological types? That that's one question, and then
is it being administered properly? Because I have seen these
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kinds of tests administered improperly and used for the wrong means.
Let me give you a classic case in point. Tim Lahay,
who is famous for the Left Behind series, also has
credited himself as being an expert in the area of
these temperament tests. And so he says, as a student
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of human temperament, for many years, I've been intrigued by
the Jewish temperament. And then after carefully analyzing the temperament
of the first Israelite as he's described in the Bible,
I have found, says hey Jacob, to be a dead
ringer for the twentieth century residence of Israel. Well, what's
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the problem here? Well, the problem here is, according to Lahay,
the two classes of people can rightly be distinguished and
divided on the basis of personal characteristics, one class being
the Jews and the other being the Gentiles. Now here's
a classic example of where someone takes a temperament test
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and mis employs the test, and as a result of that,
you have a real problem because he's now distinguishing between
classes of people when biblically there are no classes of
people to start with. You know, you can't distinguish between
Jews and gentiles on the basis of a temperament test.
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There are Gentiles that could rightly be classed in one
category and Jews in that same category or in opposite categories.
But you can't blanketly take all Jewish people ethnic Jews
and classify them on the basis of a temperament test.
That's a misapplication of the particular test. I think the
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same thing can be done with a Meers Briggs test.
So I think my takeaway point of all of this is,
if you're going to use that kind of a test,
you better have an administrator who is wise and discernment
and uses the test for whatever potentialities it has, as
opposed to abusing the test. And then also, I think
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better be very aware of the fact that this is
rooted in Carl Jung's theory of psychological types, and therefore
it starts with a I think a very significant liability
on the front end. Look forward to being right back
here tomorrow with more of the show.
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and those who enter through it are many, the gate
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You're just in time for the Bible Answer Man broadcast
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Our purpose here at CRII is to equip Christians to
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Now here's the president of the Christian Research Institute, Hank Canagraph.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Thank you very much, Randy, and we're going right to
our phone callers for stuff. Samantha Winston, Salem, North Carolina. Hi, Samantha,
Hey Hank, how are you? I'm good? How are you?
Speaker 3 (01:07):
I've been better and I won't try not to cry.
But my husband and I were expecting our first baby,
and unfortunately we've found out that our baby is not
going to live. She doesn't have a brain, she doesn't
have legs, and her arms are severely underdeveloped, and we're
heartbroken by all of that. I'm sure you can understand.
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And we really at this point are face now with
the choice of continuing on the pregnancy, or we have
the option of having an early induction where we still
be able to hold her and have her buried and all,
but wouldn't go through the remainder of the pregnancy. And
we've been in counseling with our pastor over it, and
with our parents and other individuals, and we're just still
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kind of at a loss of what to do. We've
been reassured and reassured and reassured that we are not
affecting the outcome that that our baby is not going
to live, but we you know, there's unknown certainly on
both sides of this. And I never in a million years,
never ever could have ever imagined being in a position
like this. And you know, really the concerns with continuing
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the pregnancy come around my health and just you know,
the physicality of it and the stress of it and
and going through that and what that's like. And and
you know, I kind of the whole time of our
pregnancy of sort of I've known in my heart something
was wrong, and I just have. I've known it. I've
just known it in my heart, and then now I
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kind of have that same feeling around worrying about my
own health with continuing on. And I don't know if
that's just fear or if that's you know, if I
should pay attention to that. But you know, above all,
we want to honor the Lord and bring him glory
through this.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
It's just and.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Terrible choices to make, and we just you know, I
really appreciate your show and your ministry, and I thought
that maybe you might have a little bit of light
to shed on this. I don't. We've told the doctors
repeatedly if there was a chance that our daughter would
just be severely disabled or have severe difficulties or anything
like that, to please tell us that we would not
you know, we would honor that life. And they continue
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to assure us that that is not the case. And
they said, you know, we don't often give a patient
no hope, but in this case, you know, this is
absolutely terminal with her situation, the specifically with the brain situation.
So that's where we are, and we haven't had any
problems the whole time, so I, you know, I just
can't believe this.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Yeah, Samantha, I'm so glad you called. And first let
me say this that on some level I can identify
with you in that my wife and I had a
preborn child that died. They be Grace, and the thing
that name. M Wow, Well, you're going to make me
emotional here.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
But sorry, here's make everyone cry these days.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Well, here's the thing. We know for certain that you're
going to have a relationship with baby Grace for all eternity,
and that's a good news.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
And that's the blessing that we've fit over and over
through this that we are so thankful for that.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Yeah. And the other thing that you said, which is
just so heartwarming to me is the fact that you're
going to have a burial. I think so often, oh wonderful.
So often people neglect, even Christians neglect that part of
the process. We want to recognize that that baby Grace
is a real person.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Yes, she's our daughter, and.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Therefore she deserves a real funeral, and you will spend
eternity with her, and one day she will develop the
DNA that makes her her, will develop into what she
would have been if sin had never entered the world.
So you will see her in perfection, and now you
have an opportunity to be a testimony. Now you've got
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to take seriously the medical aspects, which is to say
that if your life is in danger, that's a serious consideration.
If it is certain that baby Grace is going to die. Remember,
we can't take that prerogative into our own hands, because
life and death is the prerogative of God alone. But
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you have to consider seriously medical ramifications for you. There's
a greater good principle. And no one has to tell
you anything about this. I mean, I could, I could
try to go into detail on this, but it's unnecessary
because your heart is where God wants your heart. Your
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heart is with his will, not your own will. Your
heart is with his purposes, not your own. You want
him to be glorified. And I'll tell you something. With
your heart, where your heart is, God is not going
to allow you to make a mistake in this process.
You have to get the very best medical advice that
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you can get. You've looked for the best spiritual advice
that you can get. Your heart is the heart of God.
You've demonstrated that in even enunciating the question, which, by
the way, let me tell you baby Grace and your
testimony right here on air is going to impact people. Therefore,
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we already know for a certainty, although we didn't need
this evidence, we know for a certainty that baby grace
life has significance for no other reason than this phone call,
but obviously for many reasons beyond that. I've seen the
life of our baby Grace, as short as it was,
having incredible power and impact right up to the present day.
(06:42):
So that's the beauty in all of this. God is
going to bring gold out of the ashes. Now you
have to do what's prudent, which is to say, you
have to take again the best scientific and the best
scriptural advice that you can get and go through this
not without the Body of Christ, but recognizing that you
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are a part, a member of the Body of Christ,
and not go through this alone, not go through this
apart from the Body of Christ, but with the Body
of Christ, which is precisely what you're doing.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Yes, and we've been able. You know, there's there's wonderful
Christians on both sides of you know, who have made
the choice to continue and who've made the choice to
to go ahead and say goodbye. And you know, it
feels like I just feel like we don't have a
good choice. I wish the Lord would just take this,
take this out of our hands completely.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
It's well, in some sense, you probably will as long
as your life is not endangered, right.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Well, and that's the thing. It's just difficult, you know,
That's I guess the really the hardest part of this
is there's not you know, nobody can say for sure
yes or for sure no, because this is such a
hugely rare, rare, just severe situation that she has. That's
really something that they haven't seen before. And so in
(08:04):
our case, you know, they can say, you know, you know,
the regular complications of pregnancy, and but we haven't seen
a case like this before. And I think that's what
makes me feel scared more than anything, is there are
so many unknowns because it is so so tremendously rare,
and so no one can say, oh, yes, there's lots
(08:28):
of mothers who have carried a term with that condition
and they're you know, they're all fine.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Well, the Lord Samantha has entrusted you with a very
rare case because you're a very rare person. And I'm
not saying that gratuitously. I'm just saying that based on
how you're communicating. First of all, you're eloquent in your
pain and in your suffering. And God has a purpose
in all of this. And I would commend the scripture
(08:53):
so that God can speak to you personally through the scripture,
you know, particularly someone thirty nine. And I like to
point people to this passage because it so speaks to
the issue not only of baby Grace, but also usamanth
It speaks to you. The Lord knows you're going out
(09:14):
and you're lying down. He's familiar with all your ways.
He's hemmed you in behind him before he's laid his
hand upon you. You don't need to fear his hand,
even this moment is upon you. Your thoughts are precious
to him, as his thoughts are precious to you. And
even now you can praise God because Baby Grace is
(09:40):
fearfully and wonderfully made, and her frame is not hidden
from God. When she's been woven together in the secret
place in the depths of the earth, God's eyes see
baby Grace's unformed body. And all the days ordain for
Baby Grace are already written in his book before even
(10:04):
one of them has come to be Samantha, you can
leave maybe Grace in the hands of your Lord and Savior.
You look at the situation as long as you have
the ability to carry baby Grace. It's an honor and
a privilege. If your life is in danger, obviously you
need to take the appropriate action because there is a
(10:27):
greater good principle that should be invoked at that point.
We'll be praying for you. My family will be praying
for you, and I'm sure a lot of other people
listening in will be praying for you as well. God
bless you, Samantha. We are unfortunately coming up to station Brick.
Will be right back.
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Speaker 2 (15:12):
Much Randy, and let's return to our callers. Next up
is Harris listening in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. High Harris, Yes, God,
bless you, thank you.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
I'm now a pastor, and I used to be a
Satanist at one time, and I have a just to
know what do you think about a certain thing that
I've been seeing has been happening in the Pentecostal churches
have been having and some Baptist churches and some non
denomination churches. It's pantomime in the churches. And I'm not
talking about like you know, sign languages. I'm talking about
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pantomime like dances. And they'll turn off all the lights
and they'll have white white gloves and dress all in black.
And I know that the early church fathers hippolotists. He
wrote against it, and I know that it was something
that was done in wrong when they used to kill
Christians and they study in Greece. But I want to
(16:05):
know what do you think is it? Is it something
that should be done in the churches. In my opinion
it shouldn't. But what do you think about that?
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Well, I think the message that's being communicated is paramount,
whether you do it through hand motions with white gloves,
or whether you do it through your vocal cords. The
message is paramount. Okay. So if for example, you're using
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panamimee as a way of communicating the gospel, just as
a classication point, there would be nothing inherently wrong with it.
The point is everything media. Media is a tool, Okay.
Media can be used for evil purposes, Media can be
used for good purposes. It's a tool. We don't want
(16:58):
to fall in love with the tool, but we want
to use extent tools for God's glory. And I think
a lot of times these kinds of things can be
a distraction rather than amplifying the gospel. But that is
not to say that it can't be used in a
useful way for the communication of the gospel. So if
(17:20):
it becomes a tool misused, it's bad. If it is
a tool used properly, it can be Okay, that's the principle.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
Okay, but it takes ten. It talks about the two
sons of Aaron that they gave a fire that was
strange to the Lord and God killed them because of it.
You know.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Yeah, but this is a much different thing.
Speaker 4 (17:44):
But you're saying so that you're saying that someone dressed
in black and with the lights off and white gloves,
and that that's okay.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Yes, what's going on with the Sons of Aaron is
a completely different thing. Here, you have a situation where
unholy fire is being offered to the Lord. In other words,
the Lord prescribes how things are to be done in
terms of sacrifice, in terms of the priestly duties. He
(18:18):
very specifically prescribes how that is to be done within
the context of a theocracy, and with premeditation they insult God,
and therefore, as priests to the people, they pay with
capital punishment. That's God's decision. But this is a this
is a difference.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
It's something that came from Greece. Then it moved to
the Christian error. Her early church father spoke against it.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
But here again you have to understand the principle. And
that's the point I'm saying. Do you think that the
early church fathers are going to speak against the communication
of the Gospel because the lights are off and you're
using white gloves. No, the prostitution of the Gospel is
always at issue. I mean, I can look at a
(19:07):
particular television network and say, okay, this television network has
been used for inherently evil purposes. Okay, but that does
not mean that that platform can't be used as a
corrective means to communicate the Gospel. Let's look at money.
(19:29):
Money is oftentimes depicted in the Bible as filthy. But
that does not mean that I can't take ten dollars
and give it to someone who needs a loaf of bread.
So I can use that for purposes that are evil,
(19:49):
I can also use that for purposes that are good.
And that's the point, that's the principle. Okay, I really
appreciate your heart, Hairris, I really do. I mean, I
hear you. I hear you loud and clear. You want
to be honoring to the lords.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
And as a census, these churches are not preaching no more.
These churches are.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Just entertaining with this, saying well, and that's why I
say I appreciate your heart. That that's kind of what
I sensed was behind all of this. And I couldn't
agree with you more. We have gone from education to entertainment.
We've gone, Yes, I couldn't agree with you more. That's
another issue though, And again, if this becomes the focus
(20:34):
of the church, where entertainment becomes paramount, here's the problem.
You got to keep upping the ante because to keep
people by an experience, you got to keep gradually ratcheting
the experience up and up and up, because otherwise they'll
go somewhere else where they can get the experience in
(20:54):
three D, and so certainly technique has overwhelmed theology. And
I think think they're in. You've put your finger on
a real substance of problem. That's the real issue.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
Okay, God bless you. I'm a hand kiagraph and I
either I still disagree with the pantomime thing, but I
do I do love you, and I do respect you
in I think you're a great person.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Well, respect goes both ways. Thank you so much for
your very courteous call. I want to go back to
the phone lines. Todd, you're a next listening on the
web in Anaheim, California.
Speaker 5 (21:26):
Hi Todd, Yes, sir, Hello Hank. It's a privilege to
speak to you.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Thank you.
Speaker 5 (21:31):
Likewise, okay, great. I want to bring up an issue
that I have become kind of preoccupied with to some extent,
and that matter is the use of career assessments, particularly
assessments that have been used as gift assessments, and the
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use of those assessments in the church. And I have
big questions about the use of asessments founded upon the
beliefs and theories. Perhaps some of the theories may be true,
but theories of the first what are known as psychologists
(22:13):
or psychoanalysts, And so my question would be, do you
have any similar concern with the use of the spiritual
gift assessments in the church that are have links have
connections with those those things.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Yeah, a good question, and obviously have done your homework.
But here's the point all truth. That's got truth, and
therefore you can find truth with Stephen Covey in his
Seven Habits of an Effective Leader or Effective Manager. Why
because even though he's Mormon, he's got some of the
leadership principles right. The same thing could be said with
(22:53):
jungyin psychoanalysis or psychology. And I think we don't want
to make a genetic fallacy here and there for just
throughout the baby with the bathwater. But you've done your homework,
and I think there are certainly problems here because you
have a Myers Briggs test rooted in Carl Jung's theory
(23:15):
of psychological types, and for this reason, many Christians have
rejected the legitimacy of the test. So two issues here.
One is is it legitimate in terms of how it
deals with psychological types? That that's one question, and then
is it being administered properly? Because I have seen these
(23:37):
kinds of tests administered improperly and used for the wrong means.
Let me give you a classic case in point. Tim Lahay,
who is famous for the Left Behind series, also has
credited himself as being an expert in the area of
these temperament tests. And so he says, as a student
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of human temperament, for many years, I've been intrigued by
the Jewish temperament. And then after carefully analyzing the temperament
of the first Israelite as he's described in the Bible,
I have found, says hey Jacob, to be a dead
ringer for the twentieth century residence of Israel. Well, what's
(24:24):
the problem here? Well, the problem here is, according to Lahay,
the two classes of people can rightly be distinguished and
divided on the basis of personal characteristics, one class being
the Jews and the other being the Gentiles. Now here's
a classic example of where someone takes a temperament test
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and mis employs the test, and as a result of that,
you have a real problem because he's now distinguishing between
classes of people when biblically there are no classes of
people to start with. You know, you can't distinguish between
Jews and gentiles on the basis of a temperament test.
(25:09):
There are Gentiles that could rightly be classed in one
category and Jews in that same category or in opposite categories.
But you can't blanketly take all Jewish people ethnic Jews
and classify them on the basis of a temperament test.
That's a misapplication of the particular test. I think the
(25:31):
same thing can be done with a Meers Briggs test.
So I think my takeaway point of all of this is,
if you're going to use that kind of a test,
you better have an administrator who is wise and discernment
and uses the test for whatever potentialities it has, as
opposed to abusing the test. And then also, I think
(25:54):
better be very aware of the fact that this is
rooted in Carl Jung's theory of psychological types, and therefore
it starts with a I think a very significant liability
on the front end. Look forward to being right back
here tomorrow with more of the show.
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