October 21, 2025 • 28 mins
On today’s Bible Answer Man broadcast (10/21/25), Hank answers the following questions:
Can a non-practicing homosexual living a celibate lifestyle be an authentic Christian? Is this legalism? Aaron - Kirksville, MO (0:50)
Someone told me that the second coming is the moment one receives Jesus into their heart. What are your thoughts? Van - NC (4:08)
At what point am I held accountable to God for my family’s attendance at a local church? Cameron - Troy, AL (7:53)
Can you explain the new heaven and new earth in Isaiah 65? Stephen - Noble, OK (15:14)
Matthew 2:15 quotes the flight to Egypt fulfilled Hosea 11:1. Isn’t Matthew taking Hosea 11:1 out of context? Staten - Overland Park, KS (18:13)
What is your opinion of Sid Roth? Kevin - Manning, AB (25:04)
Can a non-practicing homosexual living a celibate lifestyle be an authentic Christian? Is this legalism? Aaron - Kirksville, MO (0:50)
Someone told me that the second coming is the moment one receives Jesus into their heart. What are your thoughts? Van - NC (4:08)
At what point am I held accountable to God for my family’s attendance at a local church? Cameron - Troy, AL (7:53)
Can you explain the new heaven and new earth in Isaiah 65? Stephen - Noble, OK (15:14)
Matthew 2:15 quotes the flight to Egypt fulfilled Hosea 11:1. Isn’t Matthew taking Hosea 11:1 out of context? Staten - Overland Park, KS (18:13)
What is your opinion of Sid Roth? Kevin - Manning, AB (25:04)
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Welcome to the Bible answer Man Broadcast with Christian Research
Institute President Hank hanigraph Our mission at CRII is not
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and now here's Hank Canigraphy much Randy.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
First up today Aaron in Kirksville, Missouri.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Hi erin, Hey, Hank, are you today?
Speaker 2 (00:56):
I'm good, and I was talking to you.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
That's calm because my brother has a good friend of
his that claims to be a nonpracticing homosexual. Basically says
that he has the tendencies, he even has a mindsets,
and even I mean, far as I'm concerned, he has
the behaviors of what would stereotypically be a homosexual man.
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But he says that as long as I don't actually
have sex with another man. I'm not doing anything wrong.
And he says that he's going to live a life
of celibacy and kind of just is his way of
avoiding any kind of I don't know, it just sounded
really legalistic to me and really kind of like the
letter rather than the spirit. So I was just wondering
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what you.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Yeah, I think it's commendable in a lot of ways.
And I think he should be applauded for feeling as
though he has these proclivities and yet refraining from engaging
in those proclivities. Because remember, homosexuality is a behavior. It's
not an identity, and I think that's often times confused
in our culture. We think it's an identity, when in
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fact it is not. It's a behavior. And I think
it's commendable that he's not carrying out that behavior, behavior
which ultimately is detrimental to him and to others with
whom he would come into contact with. And we all
have struggles against sinful proclivities. I mean, that's that's the
human condition. That's why the Christian Church is a hospital
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for sick people. I mean, the entrance requirements of the
Kingdom is saying I'm a sinner. I've got all these
sinful proclivities, and God, please help me because I want
to do it your way rather than my own way.
So they're y.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
I guess my issue is not with him saying I
have these tendencies just like I have a tennessee maybe
towards pornography or whatever. It's the I will behave in
this manner as much as I want, as long as
I do not do this one thing, you know, even
to the point of commenting on the attractiveness of other men,
and you know, and with things which to me seem
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to even suggest a thought life that leans towards it.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
Right.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
But here's the issue. I mean, I think the real
issue here is to take the good here and try
to capitalize on it. From a Christian perspective, I think
what's important is always a change of heart and growth
as a Christian. If you become a follower of Jesus Christ,
you grow in the grace and knowledge of Jesus Christ,
and everything starts to change in your life. Your habits
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start to change over time. I mean, some habits are
very hard to break and may not even be broken
in this lifetime. But the point is, the heart is
the seat of all of this, and if the heart changes,
then behavior can change. So again, I would be a
whole lot more concerned with communicating not only the Christian Gospel,
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but the Christian disciplines, because through them a person is changed.
As a person has changed, they change their sphere of
influence and ultimately the culture can be changed.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Okay, all right, well, I thank you. I appreciate you.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
T Tom.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
I'm giving me something to think on.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Aaron, thank you so much for your call. I want
to go next to Van listening in North Carolina. Hi Van, Yes,
good evening, Hank, good evening.
Speaker 5 (04:15):
Just ran into somebody and then the discussion, you know,
brought up the Lord and started talking about loving Jesus
and different things. And the person began to explain to
me that this theology. And I had never heard anything
like this, So maybe you can enlighten me, or maybe
give me some idea where I can go in and
maybe figure out what this is, or you might know
right off the bat. And the bottom line is what
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she told me was that she believed that when she
accepted Christ as her savior and he came to live
in her heart, that that was the second coming of Christ.
That he had now fulfilled the prophecy in the Bible,
you know about coming again, and his coming again was
because He has came and lived in her heart, and
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that we were actually living. We were in heaven now,
but it was not it was not a fulfilled heaven.
That's what she called it. I think a fulfilled heaven
that when he you know, what is it talking in
the Bible about brings heaven to earth, then this will
be a fulfilled heaven and it will be a perfect place.
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But it's not now because that's not happened.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Yeah, I mean, it almost sounds like a permutation of
the false heoretical notion of full preterism, but has some
differences as well as you're explaining it. But the point
here that should be underscored is that Christ comes to
us we are spiritually regenerated, and when we are spiritually regenerated,
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we experience, as it were, a first resurrection, a resurrection
as it were, from deadness in sin and depravity. But gee,
Jesus Christ is going to come a second time, and
when he does, he'll put all things to right. In
the meantime, we're going to struggle with sin natures. We're
going to struggle with a world that now groans and
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travail and is looking for its liberation and bondage from decay.
So again, what we're looking forward to is the second
coming of Jesus Christ. Then our bodies will be resurrected physically,
the universe will be physically restored to what it was
before sin and destruction and disease and decay entered this world.
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Paradise lost will become paradise restored. So that's what we
yearn for earnestly and yet do not have. It's not
within our grasp, but it is within our hope. We
can look forward to it with eager anticipation because it
is a promised reality yet future.
Speaker 5 (06:55):
Right absolutely. I mean, you know that old thing you
preached into the quad.
Speaker 6 (07:00):
I'm right with you.
Speaker 5 (07:01):
I just never heard anything of this sort and it
really kind of threw me a tremendous curve ball when
I was young. I mean, I mean, don't get me wrong,
I've espoused to her what my beliefs were, and it
was a great conversation, but I was just really had
never heard anything like this, and I was just kind
of curious, if they're what did you say that was.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Called full predism. But again, a full preadist would not
describe themselves exactly as you did in the prolog to
your question. So I wouldn't want to settle even full
predism with some of that baggage. But full predism is
the idea that the Second Coming has already come, It's
already happened, and as a result of that, we're now
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experiencing resurrection. In a Christian viewpoint, however, that is not true.
Jesus Christ is coming again, and that is yet future.
Let's go back to the phone lines. Talk to Cameron
in Troy, Alabama. Hi, Cameron, Hello, good even?
Speaker 4 (07:59):
How you doing good?
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Her?
Speaker 4 (08:00):
You? I am well? At what point am I hell lible?
Before God? The responsibility of ensuring that my family attends
the local church. Recently switched churches for spiritual reasons. The
church were prior to the one we've moved to, we attended,
and the more and more we were there, the more
and more I realized that it was great teaching. But
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the teaching mostly surrounds prosperity teaching. So my question is
to what point of my hell lible? Because right now
we're kind of in a liberal We've all moved from
one church and we currently attend another one off and
on or We've yet to be consistent. Me and my wife,
we kind of conflict on where to attend. I want
to attend locally because you know, we'll definitely get a
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regular session out of it. But she feels as if,
you know, the Word is not as strong and she
doesn't get much out of it.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
First of all, I commend you. I mean, you want
to use discernment so that you are your family in
a healthy, well balanced church. And I think to that end,
it is good that you're looking for a body of
believers in which you can worship God through prayer, praise
and the proclamation of the Word, experience oneness with other believers,
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and then be equipped to go out and impact the world.
So good for you. I'm glad you're using your discernment skills. Secondly,
let me say this that it's important that you do
not neglect the gathering of yourselves together, as is the
custom of some. That you do identify with a body
of believers, because the body needs you and you need
the body. Paul makes that very clear in Romans chapter twelve.
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And you are the head of the house. You are
held responsible for training up your children, and that's a
daunting thought, and you need to let them know that
they weren't born again in isolation. They were born into
a community of faith, which is expressed through communion and
expressed through baptism. So I think it's important that you
are using discernment. But it's also important that you land
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in a church. You're not going to find a perfect church,
but at least one that adheres to the essentials of
the historic Christian faith and one in which you can
find your place as a very important, poignant member of
the fellowship of believers.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
Yes, sir, And my biggest conflict is the fact that
one of them is more or less a prosperity teaching.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Yeah, and the prosperity message is not a biblical message
at all, And therefore you don't want to raise up
your family in that kind of a church. So you're
good not to be part of that fellowship. You want
a healthy, well balanced church.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
If well, I'll tell you what. I thank you for
your time, and I think you do a various job explaining.
I tell you God has really given your gifts because
I mean, as I listen to your answers, a lot
of them are just very well explained it. So I
appreciate the one the opportunity to call, and if too,
I thank God that you're on air.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Then what you're doing bless you. Thank you so much
for your urgent. That means the world to me.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
Be right, bag.
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Speaker 2 (15:10):
Thank you very much, Randy, and let's go right back
to our phone callers. Next up is Stephen listening in Noble, Oklahoma. Hi, Stephen, Hello, Hank.
Speaker 7 (15:19):
I have a question that's been giving me trouble for
a while now. When the Lord comes back, he will
create a new heavens and new earth. Right, there will
be no sin, death, or sickness. In the Old Testament.
The prophecy of this in Isaiah sixty five, he mentions
that the young man shall die one hundred years old,
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and the sinner one hundred years old shall be accursed.
What does that mean?
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Yeah, it says that he who dies at a hundred
will be thought a mere youth, and he who fails
to reach one hundred will be considered a cursed. And
what this is is figurative language to let his here
the hearers of Isaiah relate to what it will be
like when God puts all things to right. The inhabitants
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of the new heaven and new Earth will live lives
of inexpressible longevity, and there'll be no more infant mortality,
and people will not die prematurely as they do now.
If you look at verse eighteen, you have the word forever.
You'll be rejoicing and serving the Lord forever. The forever
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word should be a clue that this is again figurative
language pointing out a spiritual reality which is ultimately seen
with blazing clarity in Revelation chapter twenty one, where you
see a new heaven and a new Earth. The first
heaven and first Earth passed away. There's no longer any sea.
And by the way, even that's figurative language. The sea
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was thought as a place in which death and turmoil
and the coiling serpent resided. All of that will be
on because there'll be no more sin, and God himself
will live with us, and he will wipe every tear
from our eyes. There'll be no more death or mourning
or crying or pain, for the old order things will
have passed away. Behold, all things will be made new.
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So the Bible uses figurative language, It uses heavenly condescensions
so that we can understand what God has prepared for
those who love him.
Speaker 7 (17:22):
Okay, so there really won't be any death.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
At all, Absolutely no death, no and nothing impure will
enter it. Nor will anyone who does what is shameful
or deceitful. We were created for eternity. Death came as
a result of sin, but life comes as a result
of receiving Jesus Christ. We receive spiritual life now, and
we will also receive eternal life physically in the New
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heavens and the New Earth, wherein dwells righteousness.
Speaker 7 (17:48):
Okay, so the prophecy there in Isaiah sixty five where
he mentions the death and the sinner, that's just kind
of a figurative.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
It's figurative language.
Speaker 7 (17:57):
Surely there's not going to be a literal sinner there.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
No, there's not going to be any sinners. There'll be
no sin in the New Heaven's and no worth. And
again we will rejoice there with God forever, as we
see in verse eighteen.
Speaker 7 (18:09):
I can't wait, amen much.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Thank you so much for your call back to the
phone lines. Stayton listening in Overland Park, Kansas. Hi.
Speaker 6 (18:18):
Hey, I'm always under the impression that it's good practice
to read things in context, and I was looking here
in Matthew two, verse fifteen. I know there's more examples,
but this is just one. Far Ward says this fulfill
what the Lord had spoken, and the prophet through the prophet,
and he says, I called my son out of Egypt,
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and then in my little footnotes says, this comes from
the prophet that said this comes from Hoseiah eleven one.
And then if I read Hosea eleven one, it doesn't
sound like it sounds like they're just taking something out
of context. And then you know, so I'm just confused.
Why did they decide to use it that way if
it doesn't seem to be in contact. I don't well.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
This is a classic example of how important it is
to understand the difference between predictive prophecy and typological prophecy.
You're absolutely right, Hoseiah eleven to one. When Israel was
a child, I loved him, and out of Egypt I
called my son has first and foremost to do with Israel.
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But there's historical correspondence between israel sojourn in Egypt and
the sojourn of a Manuel in Egypt. That's not random,
but it's a divinely intended pattern of events that is
intensified in Jesus Christ. So we should note the reason
for exile in Egypt, the extraordinary evil of Jacob's sons
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exiled Joseph in Egypt, just as the extravagant evil of
Herod exiled Jesus in Egypt. Furthermore, we should know God's
providential care for the royal Sea to Abraham, whereby am Manuel,
like Israel, is preserved in the midst of sojourn in Egypt.
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And then there's another point. Beyond historical correspondences, there's a
corresponding escalation of type and antetype. In other words, Emmanuel
did what Israel could not do. Israel succumbed to the
wiles of the world, the flesh, the devil during her
desert sojourn, whereas a manual true Israel triumphed over every
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trial and temptation. And even that, by the way, is
but grasping a thread on the underside of the tapestry
of typology. Because Jacob and his sons were designated sons
of God by adoption, Jesus has designated the Son of
God in unique and absolute fashion. So again, this is
where we have to be careful to make distinctions between
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predictive prophecies like Mica at five two, which finds fulfillment
in Christ's birthplace in Bethlehem in Matthew two five typological
prophecies like Hosea eleven to one which are typologically fulfilled
in Jesus Christ, and failure to recognize the difference has
led to much disbelief and outright denial of the fact
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that the Bible is the infallible, a positive of redemptive revelation.
Speaker 6 (21:16):
Okay, where would you say to go would be a
good place to learn to discerns? Or is it just
one of those things you just keep reading? Or is
it or go to the Greek or no, No.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Here's what would be really helpful. I wrote a book
on this. I actually wrote a book demonstrating the Bible's
divine as opposed to merely human in origin, called has
Got Spoken. In that book, I have a section on prophecy,
and I make the distinction between predictive prophecy and typological
prophets and explain how typology works. It's a really important section,
and I actually set it up in such a way
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as having a Christian who is using these kinds of
prophecies to try to reach a Jewish coworker. Well, the
Jewish coworker knows that this is fulfilled in Israel. And
therefore is saying, wow, you're really taking something out of context.
And then I work through the whole thing. So, in
kind of a case study, if you understand typology, how
you can be an effective witness. If you don't, how
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this can be a barrier to the gospel. So it's
laid out and it's an engaging fashion and the process.
You understand how typology works.
Speaker 6 (22:17):
All right, Thank you very much, you got it.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
Thank you so much for your call. Again. I wrote
that book for a reason. The reason is that we
have to be so familiar with the truth. How are
you familiar with the truth, Well, you got to have
some kind of north star. That north star is the
word of God. We test all things in light the scripture,
hold fast that which is good. But the Bible is
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under attack today. So many people say that the Bible
is full of indiscriminate massacre, bride price. It is replete
with all kinds of contradictions. There are more mistakes and
the biblical manuscripts we have today than there are words
in the New Testament. That the Bible was forged in
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this mill you I'm demonstrating, no, the Bible demonstrates itself
to be true. Through the manuscript evidence, through archaeological evidence,
through prophecy, which demonstrates that the Bible could never be
pawned off to good guessing, luck or common sense. And
then the last section of the book, I teach you
how to read the Bible for all it's worth, and
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that entails even understanding typology has God spoken proof of
the Bible's divine inspiration is available through the ministry of
the Christian Research Institute. And I make a very strong
point at the end of this book, in the conclusion,
which is worth the price of the book itself, that
if we do not go back to the pages of
the Bible on which Western civilization was built, if we
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continue in the shadow of the Bible, we may as
yet lose the greatest civilization in the history of humanity.
So ultimately it's up to you. Are you going to
be a change agent or a microcosm of the culture?
We stand today in the shadow of the Bible? As
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I said, a day in which we yet benefit from
its blessings, but we're blithely unaware of its source. A
day in which we have more Bibles than at any
other time in human history. A day in which you
can go to church, color, coordinate with your Bible, and
yet remain strangely unaware of what is divinely etched in
its pages. It leaves us on the cusp of a
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civilization that, like the Roman Empire, is either poised for
ruin or ready for revival. And you not Pagans are
the deciding factor. Pagans exercise their job description. The question
is are you exercising your job description? God is making
his appeal through us, and therefore my challenge to you
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is get into the word, get the worded to you, memorize, meditate,
and mind the Bible for all its wealth. Stem the
tide of darkness by ever being ready to provide proof
of the Bible's divine inspiration. Back to the phone lines,
we'll talk next to Kevin in Manning, Alberta, Canada. Hi Kevin, Hi,
how are you today? Good?
Speaker 5 (25:10):
Are you?
Speaker 4 (25:11):
Oh? Not?
Speaker 2 (25:11):
For man?
Speaker 6 (25:12):
I got a question about I'm not sure if your
famie is hid Roth.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Yeah, just a terrible television show as well as radio show.
No Discernment promotes just about anyone on his television show
or his website. He is a guy that is constantly
using sensationalism and sophistry and sloppy journalism and even script
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torture to delude his followers. So not something that I
would recommend at all.
Speaker 6 (25:44):
Okay, well, thanks for your opinion. I don't allowed to say,
but it needs your opinion on that one.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Well, you got it. I've watched it a number of
times and just been aghast in his sensationalism, his selling,
his script torture. I mean, it's just horrible. And I'm
glad that people exercise discernment or learn discernment skills, because
if it were not for that, they would fall for
all kinds of these sophists today who are masquerading as
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Christian teachers. Thanks for tuning in today, God bless you.
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words of Scripture merely human in origin? Or are they,
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in the making and based on two decades of research
and reflection, Hank Henagraph's monumental book Has God Spoken answers
what is surely the most important question facing our world.
In Has God Spoken? Memorable Proofs of the Bible's Divine inspiration,
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Hank counters the contentions of the Bible attackers and clearly
shows that belief in the Holy Scriptures is not a
guess or wishful thinking. It is the only logical conclusion
after an honest examination of overwhelming evidence. Ordered Has God
Spoken from the Christian Research Institute by calling eighty eight
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Speaker 2 (00:50):
First up today Aaron in Kirksville, Missouri.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Hi erin, Hey, Hank, are you today?
Speaker 2 (00:56):
I'm good, and I was talking to you.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
That's calm because my brother has a good friend of
his that claims to be a nonpracticing homosexual. Basically says
that he has the tendencies, he even has a mindsets,
and even I mean, far as I'm concerned, he has
the behaviors of what would stereotypically be a homosexual man.
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But he says that as long as I don't actually
have sex with another man. I'm not doing anything wrong.
And he says that he's going to live a life
of celibacy and kind of just is his way of
avoiding any kind of I don't know, it just sounded
really legalistic to me and really kind of like the
letter rather than the spirit. So I was just wondering
(01:42):
what you.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Yeah, I think it's commendable in a lot of ways.
And I think he should be applauded for feeling as
though he has these proclivities and yet refraining from engaging
in those proclivities. Because remember, homosexuality is a behavior. It's
not an identity, and I think that's often times confused
in our culture. We think it's an identity, when in
(02:03):
fact it is not. It's a behavior. And I think
it's commendable that he's not carrying out that behavior, behavior
which ultimately is detrimental to him and to others with
whom he would come into contact with. And we all
have struggles against sinful proclivities. I mean, that's that's the
human condition. That's why the Christian Church is a hospital
(02:24):
for sick people. I mean, the entrance requirements of the
Kingdom is saying I'm a sinner. I've got all these
sinful proclivities, and God, please help me because I want
to do it your way rather than my own way.
So they're y.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
I guess my issue is not with him saying I
have these tendencies just like I have a tennessee maybe
towards pornography or whatever. It's the I will behave in
this manner as much as I want, as long as
I do not do this one thing, you know, even
to the point of commenting on the attractiveness of other men,
and you know, and with things which to me seem
(02:59):
to even suggest a thought life that leans towards it.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
Right.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
But here's the issue. I mean, I think the real
issue here is to take the good here and try
to capitalize on it. From a Christian perspective, I think
what's important is always a change of heart and growth
as a Christian. If you become a follower of Jesus Christ,
you grow in the grace and knowledge of Jesus Christ,
and everything starts to change in your life. Your habits
(03:24):
start to change over time. I mean, some habits are
very hard to break and may not even be broken
in this lifetime. But the point is, the heart is
the seat of all of this, and if the heart changes,
then behavior can change. So again, I would be a
whole lot more concerned with communicating not only the Christian Gospel,
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but the Christian disciplines, because through them a person is changed.
As a person has changed, they change their sphere of
influence and ultimately the culture can be changed.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Okay, all right, well, I thank you. I appreciate you.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
T Tom.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
I'm giving me something to think on.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Aaron, thank you so much for your call. I want
to go next to Van listening in North Carolina. Hi Van, Yes,
good evening, Hank, good evening.
Speaker 5 (04:15):
Just ran into somebody and then the discussion, you know,
brought up the Lord and started talking about loving Jesus
and different things. And the person began to explain to
me that this theology. And I had never heard anything
like this, So maybe you can enlighten me, or maybe
give me some idea where I can go in and
maybe figure out what this is, or you might know
right off the bat. And the bottom line is what
(04:38):
she told me was that she believed that when she
accepted Christ as her savior and he came to live
in her heart, that that was the second coming of Christ.
That he had now fulfilled the prophecy in the Bible,
you know about coming again, and his coming again was
because He has came and lived in her heart, and
(05:01):
that we were actually living. We were in heaven now,
but it was not it was not a fulfilled heaven.
That's what she called it. I think a fulfilled heaven
that when he you know, what is it talking in
the Bible about brings heaven to earth, then this will
be a fulfilled heaven and it will be a perfect place.
(05:21):
But it's not now because that's not happened.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Yeah, I mean, it almost sounds like a permutation of
the false heoretical notion of full preterism, but has some
differences as well as you're explaining it. But the point
here that should be underscored is that Christ comes to
us we are spiritually regenerated, and when we are spiritually regenerated,
(05:49):
we experience, as it were, a first resurrection, a resurrection
as it were, from deadness in sin and depravity. But gee,
Jesus Christ is going to come a second time, and
when he does, he'll put all things to right. In
the meantime, we're going to struggle with sin natures. We're
going to struggle with a world that now groans and
(06:12):
travail and is looking for its liberation and bondage from decay.
So again, what we're looking forward to is the second
coming of Jesus Christ. Then our bodies will be resurrected physically,
the universe will be physically restored to what it was
before sin and destruction and disease and decay entered this world.
(06:36):
Paradise lost will become paradise restored. So that's what we
yearn for earnestly and yet do not have. It's not
within our grasp, but it is within our hope. We
can look forward to it with eager anticipation because it
is a promised reality yet future.
Speaker 5 (06:55):
Right absolutely. I mean, you know that old thing you
preached into the quad.
Speaker 6 (07:00):
I'm right with you.
Speaker 5 (07:01):
I just never heard anything of this sort and it
really kind of threw me a tremendous curve ball when
I was young. I mean, I mean, don't get me wrong,
I've espoused to her what my beliefs were, and it
was a great conversation, but I was just really had
never heard anything like this, and I was just kind
of curious, if they're what did you say that was.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Called full predism. But again, a full preadist would not
describe themselves exactly as you did in the prolog to
your question. So I wouldn't want to settle even full
predism with some of that baggage. But full predism is
the idea that the Second Coming has already come, It's
already happened, and as a result of that, we're now
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experiencing resurrection. In a Christian viewpoint, however, that is not true.
Jesus Christ is coming again, and that is yet future.
Let's go back to the phone lines. Talk to Cameron
in Troy, Alabama. Hi, Cameron, Hello, good even?
Speaker 4 (07:59):
How you doing good?
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Her?
Speaker 4 (08:00):
You? I am well? At what point am I hell lible?
Before God? The responsibility of ensuring that my family attends
the local church. Recently switched churches for spiritual reasons. The
church were prior to the one we've moved to, we attended,
and the more and more we were there, the more
and more I realized that it was great teaching. But
(08:23):
the teaching mostly surrounds prosperity teaching. So my question is
to what point of my hell lible? Because right now
we're kind of in a liberal We've all moved from
one church and we currently attend another one off and
on or We've yet to be consistent. Me and my wife,
we kind of conflict on where to attend. I want
to attend locally because you know, we'll definitely get a
(08:46):
regular session out of it. But she feels as if,
you know, the Word is not as strong and she
doesn't get much out of it.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
First of all, I commend you. I mean, you want
to use discernment so that you are your family in
a healthy, well balanced church. And I think to that end,
it is good that you're looking for a body of
believers in which you can worship God through prayer, praise
and the proclamation of the Word, experience oneness with other believers,
(09:14):
and then be equipped to go out and impact the world.
So good for you. I'm glad you're using your discernment skills. Secondly,
let me say this that it's important that you do
not neglect the gathering of yourselves together, as is the
custom of some. That you do identify with a body
of believers, because the body needs you and you need
the body. Paul makes that very clear in Romans chapter twelve.
(09:40):
And you are the head of the house. You are
held responsible for training up your children, and that's a
daunting thought, and you need to let them know that
they weren't born again in isolation. They were born into
a community of faith, which is expressed through communion and
expressed through baptism. So I think it's important that you
are using discernment. But it's also important that you land
(10:02):
in a church. You're not going to find a perfect church,
but at least one that adheres to the essentials of
the historic Christian faith and one in which you can
find your place as a very important, poignant member of
the fellowship of believers.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
Yes, sir, And my biggest conflict is the fact that
one of them is more or less a prosperity teaching.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Yeah, and the prosperity message is not a biblical message
at all, And therefore you don't want to raise up
your family in that kind of a church. So you're
good not to be part of that fellowship. You want
a healthy, well balanced church.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
If well, I'll tell you what. I thank you for
your time, and I think you do a various job explaining.
I tell you God has really given your gifts because
I mean, as I listen to your answers, a lot
of them are just very well explained it. So I
appreciate the one the opportunity to call, and if too,
I thank God that you're on air.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Then what you're doing bless you. Thank you so much
for your urgent. That means the world to me.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
Be right, bag.
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Speaker 2 (15:10):
Thank you very much, Randy, and let's go right back
to our phone callers. Next up is Stephen listening in Noble, Oklahoma. Hi, Stephen, Hello, Hank.
Speaker 7 (15:19):
I have a question that's been giving me trouble for
a while now. When the Lord comes back, he will
create a new heavens and new earth. Right, there will
be no sin, death, or sickness. In the Old Testament.
The prophecy of this in Isaiah sixty five, he mentions
that the young man shall die one hundred years old,
(15:42):
and the sinner one hundred years old shall be accursed.
What does that mean?
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Yeah, it says that he who dies at a hundred
will be thought a mere youth, and he who fails
to reach one hundred will be considered a cursed. And
what this is is figurative language to let his here
the hearers of Isaiah relate to what it will be
like when God puts all things to right. The inhabitants
(16:10):
of the new heaven and new Earth will live lives
of inexpressible longevity, and there'll be no more infant mortality,
and people will not die prematurely as they do now.
If you look at verse eighteen, you have the word forever.
You'll be rejoicing and serving the Lord forever. The forever
(16:31):
word should be a clue that this is again figurative
language pointing out a spiritual reality which is ultimately seen
with blazing clarity in Revelation chapter twenty one, where you
see a new heaven and a new Earth. The first
heaven and first Earth passed away. There's no longer any sea.
And by the way, even that's figurative language. The sea
(16:52):
was thought as a place in which death and turmoil
and the coiling serpent resided. All of that will be
on because there'll be no more sin, and God himself
will live with us, and he will wipe every tear
from our eyes. There'll be no more death or mourning
or crying or pain, for the old order things will
have passed away. Behold, all things will be made new.
(17:13):
So the Bible uses figurative language, It uses heavenly condescensions
so that we can understand what God has prepared for
those who love him.
Speaker 7 (17:22):
Okay, so there really won't be any death.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
At all, Absolutely no death, no and nothing impure will
enter it. Nor will anyone who does what is shameful
or deceitful. We were created for eternity. Death came as
a result of sin, but life comes as a result
of receiving Jesus Christ. We receive spiritual life now, and
we will also receive eternal life physically in the New
(17:46):
heavens and the New Earth, wherein dwells righteousness.
Speaker 7 (17:48):
Okay, so the prophecy there in Isaiah sixty five where
he mentions the death and the sinner, that's just kind
of a figurative.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
It's figurative language.
Speaker 7 (17:57):
Surely there's not going to be a literal sinner there.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
No, there's not going to be any sinners. There'll be
no sin in the New Heaven's and no worth. And
again we will rejoice there with God forever, as we
see in verse eighteen.
Speaker 7 (18:09):
I can't wait, amen much.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Thank you so much for your call back to the
phone lines. Stayton listening in Overland Park, Kansas. Hi.
Speaker 6 (18:18):
Hey, I'm always under the impression that it's good practice
to read things in context, and I was looking here
in Matthew two, verse fifteen. I know there's more examples,
but this is just one. Far Ward says this fulfill
what the Lord had spoken, and the prophet through the prophet,
and he says, I called my son out of Egypt,
(18:40):
and then in my little footnotes says, this comes from
the prophet that said this comes from Hoseiah eleven one.
And then if I read Hosea eleven one, it doesn't
sound like it sounds like they're just taking something out
of context. And then you know, so I'm just confused.
Why did they decide to use it that way if
it doesn't seem to be in contact. I don't well.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
This is a classic example of how important it is
to understand the difference between predictive prophecy and typological prophecy.
You're absolutely right, Hoseiah eleven to one. When Israel was
a child, I loved him, and out of Egypt I
called my son has first and foremost to do with Israel.
(19:23):
But there's historical correspondence between israel sojourn in Egypt and
the sojourn of a Manuel in Egypt. That's not random,
but it's a divinely intended pattern of events that is
intensified in Jesus Christ. So we should note the reason
for exile in Egypt, the extraordinary evil of Jacob's sons
(19:47):
exiled Joseph in Egypt, just as the extravagant evil of
Herod exiled Jesus in Egypt. Furthermore, we should know God's
providential care for the royal Sea to Abraham, whereby am Manuel,
like Israel, is preserved in the midst of sojourn in Egypt.
(20:08):
And then there's another point. Beyond historical correspondences, there's a
corresponding escalation of type and antetype. In other words, Emmanuel
did what Israel could not do. Israel succumbed to the
wiles of the world, the flesh, the devil during her
desert sojourn, whereas a manual true Israel triumphed over every
(20:31):
trial and temptation. And even that, by the way, is
but grasping a thread on the underside of the tapestry
of typology. Because Jacob and his sons were designated sons
of God by adoption, Jesus has designated the Son of
God in unique and absolute fashion. So again, this is
where we have to be careful to make distinctions between
(20:52):
predictive prophecies like Mica at five two, which finds fulfillment
in Christ's birthplace in Bethlehem in Matthew two five typological
prophecies like Hosea eleven to one which are typologically fulfilled
in Jesus Christ, and failure to recognize the difference has
led to much disbelief and outright denial of the fact
(21:12):
that the Bible is the infallible, a positive of redemptive revelation.
Speaker 6 (21:16):
Okay, where would you say to go would be a
good place to learn to discerns? Or is it just
one of those things you just keep reading? Or is
it or go to the Greek or no, No.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Here's what would be really helpful. I wrote a book
on this. I actually wrote a book demonstrating the Bible's
divine as opposed to merely human in origin, called has
Got Spoken. In that book, I have a section on prophecy,
and I make the distinction between predictive prophecy and typological
prophets and explain how typology works. It's a really important section,
and I actually set it up in such a way
(21:47):
as having a Christian who is using these kinds of
prophecies to try to reach a Jewish coworker. Well, the
Jewish coworker knows that this is fulfilled in Israel. And
therefore is saying, wow, you're really taking something out of context.
And then I work through the whole thing. So, in
kind of a case study, if you understand typology, how
you can be an effective witness. If you don't, how
(22:08):
this can be a barrier to the gospel. So it's
laid out and it's an engaging fashion and the process.
You understand how typology works.
Speaker 6 (22:17):
All right, Thank you very much, you got it.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
Thank you so much for your call. Again. I wrote
that book for a reason. The reason is that we
have to be so familiar with the truth. How are
you familiar with the truth, Well, you got to have
some kind of north star. That north star is the
word of God. We test all things in light the scripture,
hold fast that which is good. But the Bible is
(22:39):
under attack today. So many people say that the Bible
is full of indiscriminate massacre, bride price. It is replete
with all kinds of contradictions. There are more mistakes and
the biblical manuscripts we have today than there are words
in the New Testament. That the Bible was forged in
(23:00):
this mill you I'm demonstrating, no, the Bible demonstrates itself
to be true. Through the manuscript evidence, through archaeological evidence,
through prophecy, which demonstrates that the Bible could never be
pawned off to good guessing, luck or common sense. And
then the last section of the book, I teach you
how to read the Bible for all it's worth, and
(23:22):
that entails even understanding typology has God spoken proof of
the Bible's divine inspiration is available through the ministry of
the Christian Research Institute. And I make a very strong
point at the end of this book, in the conclusion,
which is worth the price of the book itself, that
if we do not go back to the pages of
the Bible on which Western civilization was built, if we
(23:45):
continue in the shadow of the Bible, we may as
yet lose the greatest civilization in the history of humanity.
So ultimately it's up to you. Are you going to
be a change agent or a microcosm of the culture?
We stand today in the shadow of the Bible? As
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I said, a day in which we yet benefit from
its blessings, but we're blithely unaware of its source. A
day in which we have more Bibles than at any
other time in human history. A day in which you
can go to church, color, coordinate with your Bible, and
yet remain strangely unaware of what is divinely etched in
its pages. It leaves us on the cusp of a
(24:28):
civilization that, like the Roman Empire, is either poised for
ruin or ready for revival. And you not Pagans are
the deciding factor. Pagans exercise their job description. The question
is are you exercising your job description? God is making
his appeal through us, and therefore my challenge to you
(24:49):
is get into the word, get the worded to you, memorize, meditate,
and mind the Bible for all its wealth. Stem the
tide of darkness by ever being ready to provide proof
of the Bible's divine inspiration. Back to the phone lines,
we'll talk next to Kevin in Manning, Alberta, Canada. Hi Kevin, Hi,
how are you today? Good?
Speaker 5 (25:10):
Are you?
Speaker 4 (25:11):
Oh? Not?
Speaker 2 (25:11):
For man?
Speaker 6 (25:12):
I got a question about I'm not sure if your
famie is hid Roth.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Yeah, just a terrible television show as well as radio show.
No Discernment promotes just about anyone on his television show
or his website. He is a guy that is constantly
using sensationalism and sophistry and sloppy journalism and even script
(25:37):
torture to delude his followers. So not something that I
would recommend at all.
Speaker 6 (25:44):
Okay, well, thanks for your opinion. I don't allowed to say,
but it needs your opinion on that one.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Well, you got it. I've watched it a number of
times and just been aghast in his sensationalism, his selling,
his script torture. I mean, it's just horrible. And I'm
glad that people exercise discernment or learn discernment skills, because
if it were not for that, they would fall for
all kinds of these sophists today who are masquerading as
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Christian teachers. Thanks for tuning in today, God bless you.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Thanks for tuning into the Bible answer Man broadcast. Our website,
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We provide books, videos, and informative articles. You can also
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All this and more at equip dot org. Again, the
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is supported by listeners like you. We're on the air
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in fact the very words of God himself. Three years
in the making and based on two decades of research
and reflection, Hank Henagraph's monumental book Has God Spoken answers
what is surely the most important question facing our world.
In Has God Spoken? Memorable Proofs of the Bible's Divine inspiration,
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shows that belief in the Holy Scriptures is not a
guess or wishful thinking. It is the only logical conclusion
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